Cantor Rejects Rush Limbaugh Rhetoric

The Republican Party has produced some thoughtful and wise leaders in my lifetime, people like Dwight Eisenhower, Ronald Reagan and General Colin Powell. There are Republicans today, like Charlie Crist and hopefully many others, who don’t seem to toady to the obnoxious right who are so puffed up and sanctimonious that rational people recoil from them. The problem is the more moderate voices of the Republican Party are lost in the din.
For myself, a moderate Democrat who votes Republican when the candidate merits my vote, the opportunities to go in a more conservative direction are increasingly limited. Rush Limbaugh makes me cringe. If he is the leader, the Repubs will surely wander in the wilderness till somebody better steps up to the plate and takes visible control of the rhetoric.

What’s wrong with Rush Limbaugh’s rhetoric
I hope that Rush and the Republicans fail every day. The difference is that my hope has now become reality.
Reality for the past two elections.
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN

Wow….some common sense. Rush Limbaugh hurts the republicans more than he helps.

CANTOR is a sell out !!!! I hope he loses re-election.

I still cannot understand how a failed DJ from Pittsburgh without a single college course in Political Science,who is a bigot and a drug addict gets so much credibility.
Posted by: MBNA Joe | Mar 1, 2009 10:59:43 AM
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What better representative could the GOP have?
He is a self confessed proud bigot – That is the GOP in a nutshell. I think Steele was the only black at CPAC.
He is spaced out spouting mindless drivel – The GOP’s mantra for the past 8 years.
BOTH Lintball and the GOP are out of touch with America.
He’s the GOP’s EF Hutton. When those huge massive jowls flap, the GOP listens

phoenix lady,
I agree with you 100%! The Republican party allowed its party to be high-jacked by single-minded loud mouthed idealogues years and years ago. As long as Republicans embrace the Sean Hannitys, Rush Limbaugh’s, Anne Coulters, and Bill O’Reillys of the world (not to mention Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber) they will not get my vote. And I am an Independent not a Democrat. Unfortunately I see only one party as a party of ideas with a plan to pull us out of this mess.

Cantor is one of the Liberal Republicans that has to go. He has got to be targeted by the GOP for replacement. Saying the GOP needs to be “more inclusive” is ridiculous. It is ridiculous because the Liberal Left Demoncrats are the least inclusive in politics. They like to say they are inclusive but they are truely not. Cantor cannot see the forest cause the trees are in the way.
Fiscal conservatism is what this country needs. Not social conservatism.

Wow….some common sense. Rush Limbaugh hurts the republicans more than he helps.

marlene
I would go as far as saying lunacy is celebrated in the conservative movement.
Just had a thought.
Since everyone is throwing the GOP under the bus, why not change the name to the Conservative Party. Blackwater changed their name once it became mud.

Doug’s Bottom Line:
I turn you off when Mr. Rove appears.

George:
We watch your program every week. I will turn it off if you have Carl Rowe on again. He thought he was still on FOX and he could talk over everyone and not let the others talk! He was rude, but then what else can you expect from a FOX person and someone who misled our gov’t. I thought Katrina was an excellent addition, she talked soft and made sense! Even George Will seemed upset with Carl!! I realize this isn’t the right spot to post this, but not sure where to go since I don’t normally do this.
Deanna

Please! Carl Rove on This Week? The man is at worst a criminal, at best a hack. George – we deserve better.

TOO Badd Rush was right. The Obama Sees American as a Soup Kitchen and not a land of opportunity. Thats a man whose only hope is to STOP as many people as he can from success to make others FEEL better. Failed President Failed policies LOOK at the market if you want to see how great Obama’s plans are being accepted. How about the tea parties.

Thank God we only have 4 years of the liar Obama, the “empty suit with no substance”. Unfortunately, by his terms end, America will be banckrupct and it will take a Republican to get us back on the right track. The last two years of President Bush’s term was run by Pelosi and the Demwits and now our country is going to ruin by a fake “messiah” called NoBama! Keep it up Rush! Keep the fire burning……hoping for a quick 4 years so we can get NoBama out of office!

He spoke the truth…

In it’s present form, the Republican party is a disaster. B ut to regain any position in our political environment, would any of us who are Conservatives by conviction agree to such a sell out as Cantor is hinting at? I seriously don’t think so. We need either a new party that is rational and represents us well, or we need such a strong & sensible leader to the existing Republican party that even the most far left wing liberal would have to listen, but not necessarily vote for him. We cannot compromise on our values and convictions.

Wow, a sane Republican. I never thought I’d see the day. Well, if this party can produce the likes of Cantor and Powell, perhaps they have a glimmer of hope. But I doubt it, because these two guys in particular, are too rational, intelligent and too sane for this partys’ following. Besides, they can speak whole sentences and make sense.

Well Limpbaugh was well on his way yesterday in calling the majority of the country DERANGE. And bi-partianship to him is to CRUSH all Democrats.
YEP!! that speech should sure do the trick.
They are truly a fringe party and yesterday was so evident when it was deliver by a self-serving pompous blowhard.
And make no mistake big companies lobbyist have their hand on this PUPPET ,as he spew his rhetoric to help their interest on the radio.

LET Cantor become a democrat. IF he thinks Government is the answer. WE are a republic and I wish we split in half.
I can see it now all the people who believe in rewarding success and smaller governemnt move to 1/2 the country. The others stay in their half. I am serious Obama is spliting the country in 1/2.

Chavez/Obama in 2012

I kept thinking: “Rove is lucky he’s not in jail.”
Please don’t put any more of those right wing nuts on the show. They managed to screw us up so bad, we may never recover.

FOR ABC (GEO STEFANOPOLUS) TO HAVE CARL ROVE ON THEIR SUNDAY AM SHOW IS AN INSULT TO THE VIEWING AND VOTING PUBLIC. THIS MAN HAS BEEN DISCREDITED, ACCUSED OF MANY DESPICABLE ACTS, AND IN THE OPINION OF MANY IS A TRAITOR TO AMERICAN IDEALS, PRINCIPLES, AND OUR FOUNDING DOCUMENTS.
I, FOR ONE, ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS TURNED OFF THE SHOW AS SOON AS I SAW HIM. IT WILL BE A WHILE BEFORE I TURN TO THE SAME SHOW AGAIN OR ABC!

Omentum (11:09); Steele is not the only black Republican out there. I have black friends from N. Carolina and they voted for McCain! Same thing with my gay friends from S. Carolina. So much for your pigeon holes.
Posted by: LongT | Mar 1, 2009 11:16:41 AM
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And touche’ …. so much for your reading comprehension skills
I SAID AT CPAC … do you know what CPAC is. Ok let me pull out the crayons for you
It is the
CONSERVATIVE
POLITICAL (key word)
ACTION
CONFERENCE
The GOP has absolutely no no no POLITICAL leaders.
Steele doesnt count because was not voted in by the American People. Smells like some strategery going on…..
Want to humor the GOP???? Get your black and gay friends to go an tell the leaders of the GOP they want to run for a congressional or senatorial seat (US OR STATE– DOESNT MATTER– PICK ONE) See if they don’t get laughed out the building.

Rather than continue to call themselves Republicans, they should change the name to Anarchist. I don’t know what to make of them, their rhectoric is angry and all they have to say is NO. Actually they are conservative; in thought, body and soul.
Imagine the mayor of a big city, upon being elected cuts 2/3 of the police force, what would you think might happen? criminals would propagate of course well that’s what they did to regulation but that’s nothing compared to how they’ve bought us to our knees. And while we are trying to get ourselves and those around us up, all they want to do is hit us over our heads some more. calling them crazy isn’t enough perhaps possessed is more apt, by all of americas enemies. They don’t even understand the harm they’ve caused. They ought to be ashamed but they’re too “conservative for that.

no political leaders of color that is.

I can’t believe George listened to Cantor spout all the Republican talking points they wanted the President to embrace, the same programs that got us into the mess we’re in, and George didn’t call him on it. Weak. Very weak.

I hope Obama fails as well. If I wanted a Socialist government, I would move to France. Obama’s big government, bailout, spend my kid’s money policies are not going to solve anything. Has the stock market or housing market gone up since all of these things have been passed? No. The housing bubble had to burst one day and it still isn’t down to where it should be looking at historical trends. Government intervention is not the answer. Why don’t we give the free market and chance to work? Because in the internet age, nobody wants to wait for results. Everything has to happen right now, and that is not going to fix things. We are just digging ourselves into a deeper whole. Small government, low taxes and free market policies is the answer.

I can’t believe George listened to Cantor spout all the Republican talking points they wanted the President to embrace, the same programs that got us into the mess we’re in >>>> WRONG the republicans dont what that. Thats disinformation. AND what mess were we in that republicans caused?

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0de7db153ef933a0575ac0a96f958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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HERE you Democrats read this and weep.
Democrats caused this MESS. George why dont you post this somewhere and repeat it to your democratic followers

Not every Republican thinks like Rush Limbaugh. Their IQ is very high. Limbaugh’s IQ is known to everybody according to what he says!

MBNA Joe:
You mean like drunken Ted Kennedy, pothead “I inhaled frequently, that was the point” Obama?
I don’t get how Democrats think they’re pure as the whitest snow.
Democrats also have a short term, selective memory. President Bush for the last 8 years was lambasted by Michael Moore, Pelosi, the media, everybody; and we put up with it for 8 years. Now the socialist with a D after his name is in office and now we all have to get all all four and worship at the altar of liberalism.
Not me.

I favor the conservative ideology, but I’d never call myself a Republican because they are such ASSHOLES.

As Al Franken said, Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot. Rush can’t even recall the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. In his speech yesterday, Rush tried to assert that the Preamble to the Constitution contained language which actually appears in the Declaration. The mistake is actually willful as the radical religious right does not care to admit that the Constitution contains no reference to God or religion whatsoever (other than the use of “A.D” to denote the date of the document, a common dating convention of the day, and other than the prohibition of any religious tests for federal office). Instead, Rush and his far right followers want to have people believe their propaganda that God grants Christians special rights and privileges in America and that all of us who aren’t fundamentalist Christians are instead second class citizens who have no right to advocate our views on political matters. Well, I’m all for any body, Republican or Democrat, who will reject the dogmas of Rush and his ilk!

Christian conservative posted “we’re suppose to move away from our beliefs and become liberals???? No!!!!” A Christian full of hate, very interesting. No one has asked you to give up your beliefs. What our country NEEDS right now is for conservatives to bring those beliefs to the table and work on solutions to the vast problems facing us today. Instead, people like YOU choose to follow a hate monger like Limbaugh, you choose NOT to help. Advise to the GOP and followers like you : stop being Republicans and become Americans again. Liberals are NOT an enemy like Rush teaches you, they are people with a different (not better or worse) viewpoint.

So I take it that many on this board no longer want capitalism and individual liberty to be the foundations of our society? If that is the case, then we are lost.

do you realize that ole dubya expanded the government and piled on a 5 trillion dollar debt in his presidency. lets not mention the folks that didn’t come home from a ill-advised war – ooops i mentioned it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You think I think Bush is great? NO I dont. I think he made a lot of mistakes ad TARP with the backing of the democrats was one of them.

Let me ask a question. Are those on here who want the Democratic way of life willing to get less in your paycheck? Are you willing to pay more taxes and let the government decide how to spend the money you earned? Where do you draw the line for government intervention and control of your lives?
Obama defines rich as those making $250,000 and up. Have you looked at the net worth of the House and the Senate? Looking at the length of time Representatives and Senators remain in office does the government ownership of the stock of these big corporations mean the government now has quasi control of the nation’s businesses concentrated in the hands of a select/elect few? Will government now control free enterprise through use of taxpayer money? Are we working towards creating OmniCorp owned by 535 people with government money? When does the government sell the stock in the companies it owns????

if rush limbaugh is the voice of the gop, then i feel very sorry for them.

I favor the conservative ideology, but I’d never call myself a Republican because they are such ASSHOLES.
Posted by: Katy | Mar 1, 2009 11:35:54 AM
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sounds like a little denial going on here.
you marry for better or for worse.
the same should be true for your party. instead of throwing you party under the proverbial bus, how about jumping in and actively holding these idiots accountable and YOU yes YOU make the mandates on the new directions for your party.
YOU ARE REPUBLICAN because CONSERVATIVE is not a Party.

Small government, low taxes and free market policies is the answer. >>>>
I agree.

Omentum (11:29 AM); strategery going on…..? Your crayons are unreadable.
Posted by: LongT | Mar 1, 2009 11:43:37 AM
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i was jokingly mimicking a spoof by snl of our beloved dubya.
you are out of touch are ya? wow

Obviously, as many stories are, this story is a plant by ABC to draw ire from the left about Limbaugh. Apparently, Limbaugh with his 14 million daily listeners is a threat to the socialist leaders in power and to socialism. It is easy to see that the hateful left fears Limbaugh and makes every attempt to associate his name to every problem or action of the Republican party. Pay attention to the rantings here about Rush’s drug problems which, happened in 2003. I can say one thing about Rush and that is candid rantings do irritate.

Why is Clinton’s stooge, George Stephanopoulos, qualified to comment on anything. He’s just another democrat party line peddler. Ignore his dribblings.

“Omentum (11:09); Steele is not the only black Republican out there. I have black friends from N. Carolina and they voted for McCain! Same thing with my gay friends from S. Carolina. So much for your pigeon holes.” : Well according to Rush, any white person that voted for Obama did so out of white guilt. So Rush, what type of black person voted for McCain? The Republican party still does not get it. The demographics of the nation alone will make the party extinct if it continues the type of rhetoric it displayed during this past election. Take a good look at McCain’s concession speech audience and then look at Obama’s victory speech audience. If a picture is worth a thousand words, then those contrasting images are telling indeed.

Look out everyone, Omentum is trolling.

The conservative base is back. And we are going to defeat you liberal Republicans and Democrats.

Gee calling Rush a drug addict and bigot reminds me of Osama. He likes his “pot” and really can’t stand white people, that’s why he is trying to do away with as many as he can.

: SamTyler1973 You provide no link and yet you want people to read something. Well the housing disaster was brought on by Clinton read the piece. And when Fannie and Freddie were called on it Franks Meeks and and Waters said the report was racist and Fannie and Freddie are OK. WELL FOLKS thats a joke isnt it.
And by the way the democratic congress has been around for 2 years where were they? OH yeah busy making pay to play deals with Blago.
ROFL..

Gork posted “The conservative base is back. And we are going to defeat you liberal Republicans and Democrats.” With Rush leading you???? You have to be kidding. Were where you conservatives when Ron Paul was running for the nomination of the party. Oh yes, giggling behind his back (Giuliani), telling outright lies (McCain), censoring him (Fox News). Don’t you think this country would have been better off now with Dr. Paul in charge? But no, you people said that Paul wasn’t a Republican. I guess they were right because the GOP has lost their way.

the worst … that is

Typical ABC B.S. You will search out the one republican that disagrees with the “right” and make it your headline meanwhile exclaiming to be balanced(?).

Rush Limbaugh has really become a traitor to our great nation. TRhe Bendict Arnold of our generation.

We all know that Rush Limbaugh is a big, bald, fat, idiot! His spectacular ignorance has done more damage to America than all those Islamic Jihadists combined. Even president Clinton pointed out that Rush Limbaugh’s anti-government talk in the 90’s help motivate domestic terrorists like Oklahoma City bomber. With his foul tongue he keeps damning our country’s prospects of success. If plague had a face I’d say that’s fat and stupid Rush Limbaugh. Our country is unfortunate to have him on polluting our airwaves! The more he talks America loses–Republicans know this; that what Cantor is trying to tell you!

Limberger’s such a tool. Wonder if he’s still staying clean. Thank god he has no kids.

“Absolutely not,” Cantor said. “And I don’t — I don’t think anyone wants anything to fail right now. ***************************** But fail it will and miserably. You don’t balance a budget by spending. Lessen the government by lightening the tax burden and give more power (Money) to the people. Now “that’s” something to believe in. You liberals wanted change and you got it. What you got was more government at a much higher price than you could ever have imagine.

You all need to get on your knees and pray for this country and our President. This is no time for name calling and wishing failure for our leaders. I don’t care what party you belong to.

Rush Limbaugh is absolutely repugnant along with Coulter and Hannity. It is questionable if any of them actually believe the rhetoric that they spew, or only remain controversial in order to keep their money rolling in. There is nothing wrong with “true” conservatism–I just happen to disagree with most of their social agenda which quite honestly, might not even be their true beliefs. These entertainers offer no real solutions but fester because they do a great job of keeping the electorate divided instead of finding common ground, compromise, or better yet, solutions which could be much more effective.

To the stake with republicans! This country only needs the democrat party! The Republicans are all witches!

Congressional Republicans and Democrats seem to be from different planets when discussing the economic crisis.
Democrats feel certain that Americans want vigorous government action to recharge the economy and to stop the frightening disappearance of jobs. Republicans seem just as convinced that voters abhor the heavy spending and eventual tax increases (even if they affect only high-income people) envisioned in Obama’s stimulus and budget plans.

I’m a small biz owner & I was thinking that maybe if the average guy paid a little less taxes every money then they might have a little more to spend, so businesses like mine might do a little better. No Wait! That’s not right. We are supposed to give the tax breaks to the wealthy, greedy CEOs, bankers etc, and if we are really lucky they might reinvest some of their wealth in this country & a little bit of it would trickle down onto the bottom feeding american public. They will pay as little as they can get away with and make sure that we don’t get health care, that should be reserved for the wealthy. If the American public wants to see a doctor they should choose between that & rent. We should also leave all those tax breaks open so that the wealthy can keep all their ‘offices’ in the caymen islands & avoid taxes. The only welfare tolorated in American should be corporate welfare. Isn’t that the Repug/American way?

Let me get this straight. George Bush creates a deficit of $500 billion to fight 2 wars that will fundamentally change the dynamic in the middle east for the better but he is stupid and wasteful. Barack Obama wants to create a deficit of several $trillion but that is spending for our future. What a crock! He wants to make people so dependant on the (federal) government that the democrats have complete control of people’s lives cradle to grave. Look at the trillions of dollars we have spent on welfare and we still have the poor. We give them food stamps so they can buy twinkies (anybody seen a skinny person on welfare?) and then want to tax their cigarettes to fight obesity. Government doesn’t add any productivity to our economy. It just frees people from having to make good decisions. Rush is right. Long live Rush!

Karl Rove et al – it is fascinating to me that the Republican Party of the past eight years, the party of Rove and Limbaugh and of Bush and Cheney, the party of supposed sagacious economic thought and business prowess has now, once again, brought the country economically and financially to its’ knees.
The only period in our history, in the past one hundred years, that is even remotely comparable to this one is the mid-1920′s through 1932. And what is even more astonishing to me is how is it that the party that had power in the White House for the last eight years and Congress for six of the last eight, is somehow, now, remarkably, not responsible for any of the mess that we find ourselves in. They blame everyone else but themselves for this economic debacle but themselves. Remember too, it was the Republican party of 2008 including Bush and Paulson and even McCain, who throughout the entirety of last year told us two things: “the economy if fundamentally sound” and “we will do whatever it takes to avoid a financial crisis”… Neither of which was true or did they do.
The reality is that the Republican argurment of not being responsible for this mess, or for now having all of the answers to solving it, is simply indefensible. You cannot even make that argurment with a straight face, unless you are one of the four men mentioned above… The Dem’s will be able to run on the legacy/disaster of the Bush administration just like FDR did for 16 years on the word Hoover… And if the Republican party continues down the trajectory they are now on, they will become much like the dinosaur did over time – extinct… Thank God.

Hey conservatives
STICK WITH RUSH.
He provides the Best red meat in the GOP
He is the best entertainer around. He will help you stay disconnected from the true realities of life in America. He knows that you can’t really handle the truth about the state of the Republican party.
Rush just signed a 400 million dollar contract to flap his jowls and serve up the koolaid.
If I could get away with it. I would do the same. SMART MAN.

Oh yeah, ChicagoBob, did you actually READ the article you posted? The 10 year old news post said:
‘In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers.’
Sound like free market to me. Supply and demand. I don’t see any suggestion that Democrats are pushing banks to offer sub-prime loans, they did that on their own. So, what’s that got to do with Democrats? Is it the part where they investigated the allegations of racism?

Please Klan Party keep talking. This only means success for the Democratic Party. I BEG YOU TO PLEASE KEEP TALKING. MR. CANTOR, CHANGE YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION. THEY DON’T WANT YOU BECAUSE YOU SEEM TO BE A LEVEL HEADED PERSON WITH A BRAIN! BECOME AN INDEPENDENT OR SOMETHING, BUT YOU ARE NOT A KLAN MEMBER. IN ORDER TO BE A PART OF THE KLAN PARTY YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO SAY SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM IN EVERY COMMENT YOU MAKE. YOU HAVE TO HATE EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT LOOK LIKE YOU. YOUR EDUCATION LEVEL MUST BE THAT OF A DROP OUT AND YOU HAVE TO HATE GAYS, BLACKS, HISPANICS, ASIANS….

Rush .. college dropout who doesn’t even have a political career. A freakin’ disc-jockey.
Why would I care what he thinks? Why does anyone?
It’s like listening to Howard Stern for advise…unbelievable.

there was i time when i could not stand hilary clinton and i actually grew to like her when i was able to seperate her from the message.rush irratates me most of the time and am not a fan but he did have a good message if you actually take the time to listen.
i heard his speach or preformance on the way to the office this a. m. and it was pretty good. he praised obamas skill set and begged him to lift this nation with his gifted ability to communicate and motivate. what is wrong with that? the world did not end 6 months ago. rather than dummy down the country lift it up.

Terry .. YES WELL SAID!! If Iraq survives Obamainiacs then the middle east will be changed for the better for a long time and history will write about this time quite differently. They will say it was a great gamble that saved the world. And the democrats will say they voted for the war and were proud they did. ROFL..

The GOP is done unless it abandons the neocons like limblaugh.

What a beautiful speech! That guy Limbaugh is truely presidential material! I tell what. Let’s get Palin as his vice president.
What a team! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !

When did our society become so LIBERAL? One word fits, DISGUSTING. I am making sure my four-year-old granddaughter knows the difference. And as she tells me, “If you cannot say anything NICE about someone, do not say it at all!” Ah, out of the mouth of an innocent? What a better world this would be if we just knew how to be NICE, POLITE and CONSIDERATE of others!!!!!
Have we walked a mile in the shoes of the people we are so quick to criticize? We have become a society of “arm chair critics!” UGH!!!!!!!
Oh, did you know that the late Peter Jennings (anchored ABC News) did not have a college degree? Let’s see, I may be wrong, but I believe he too dropped out of high school. Congratulations to the PhD (?) who brought Mr. Limbaugh’s past to the surface. You are to be commended for being so NICE, POLITE, CONSIDERATE of another person.
I believe I will go out and be nice to everyone I meet today! You can bet I will sleep better tonight.
Happy Sunday to you all!

Rush, Sarah and Joe the Plumber…what a group of leaders.
Posted by: GoGOP | Mar 1, 2009 12:13:09 PM
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Let’s not leave out
Bobby “will you be my neighbor” Jindal
and
Michael “you be da man” Steele
GOP is now diverse. hahahahahaha

Gee, Grover, thanks for expressing your love for your country and fellow Americans. If the country lost its stability, why do you think your life would be stable?

Joe is more American than a lot of Senators and congressmen in both parties. How about down with democrats who break into records to dirty honest people? HOW about that memory. Lets not think of Joe lets think of the McCarthy era tactic of a democrat

CANTOR DOESN’T SPEAK FOR ME, I’M WITH RUSH I HOPE THIS CLOWN OF A PRESIDENT FAILS AND FAILS MISERABLY

Limbough an ultra conservative with no regard of social cost

Hey Ellis, i like to see you try and take me to the stakes!!! Go Rush, down with the RINO’s, True conservitism needs to take back this country now!!
That’s funny! They cut loose even more of their base but yet they believe they can take back the country. LOL! The people of the United States are removing republicans as fast as the election process will allow because of people like limblaugh. Sad the Republican good guys will suffer as well in this cleaning process.

How do you intend to use blogging and Twitter to supplement your TV show, i.e., is there a strategy?

Obama’s and the democratic leadership are a disaster. The market and consumer confidence are their grades and they are in the toilet. I cant wait for 2010 to vote out the democratic liars an theives. In the south north east and west.
California BROKE. Democratic state.
New York BROKE democratic state.
IL CORRUPT and BROKE democratic state.
YOU seeing a trend here?

WHAT LOGICAL PERSON WILL TELL SOMEONE WITH DEBT THAT THE WAY OUT IS TO SPEND MORE? OBAMA MAY NOT LAST 4 YEARS!!! >>>> There is no LOGIC thats whats wrong with the democratic party its all feeling because they are all children. NOT adults. Adults know better but children WELL they allow their emotion to dictate their actions and then blame others. Democratic nonsense

President Obama just threw out a lifeline so these people can adjust their mortgage payment until they can get back on their feet. >>>>>> Obama threw out an ANCHOR not a lifeline.

Can you believe this? After all these years Republican ideology of small government, tax breaks for the rich, no regulations for business─ coming up with the perfect formula for America’s self-destruction, the Republicans are at it again. Again, they are demanding the same after all the colossal devastation our country has ever experienced.

I think it’s time for ‘OxyContin’ man to take a scheduled drug test. Guess the brain damaged drunk Bush wasn’t bad enough. Now the Republicons can bow down to their new leader, the pill popping fat slob Rush.

People in this forum need to go back to High School and take an economics class. What do you think “rich” people do with their money? They invest it or buy stuff, they don’t hide it under a mattress. It becomes working capital banks provide to small business owners to make their payroll or provide mortages to those who have saved up for a down payment and can make the mortage payment. Or they spend it on boats or houses which provides jobs. If you take it from the “rich” in the form of taxes and let the government spend it “on what we need”, you aren’t adding anything at all to the economy except adding an extra layer of inefficiency and ineptitude. It is all about supply and demand until the government interferes because it thinks it knows what you need better than you do. The free market works if we let it. A recession is painful in the short-term but always reverses itself if we let it run its course. The American dream is not about so-called “free healtchare” and “free education”. It is about “freedom”.

“CANTOR is a sell out !!!! I hope he loses re-election. ”
Don’t bet on it. I live in his district and he runs virtually unopposed time after time. He represents the well-off West End burbs here… not to be confused, evah, with the city of Richmond.

, the Republicans are at it again. Again, they are demanding the same after all the colossal devastation our country has ever experienced. >>>>>>>>>>>>> WOW Are you forgetting how high the market went and how low the unemployment was? 5% was unheard of and you called that failed?
Even with an attack on American soil a leader was able to re instill confidence in the American people to go back out and do what they always have done. ACHIEVE GREATNESS.. NOW you have the GLOOM AND DOOM OBAMA. NO wonder you cant see the great things that happened.

Truly Rush is the clown. What public office has he held? Wasn’t he a 1 year college dropout? Who in their right mind would follow someone who’s never even had a college economy class, or world history class, or even a personal finance class. I think it’s exactly because good people were fooled into following radio personalities and their message of greed and deregulation that got us to this mess. These are not the kind of people that we should be listening to to get us OUT of this mess! Turn them off!

I agree, Bush is a dummy >>> Really he had a higher GPA than Kerry. ROFL.. Bush made a lot of unpopular decisions but you think he writes the laws? Last 2 years democrats were writing those laws how did they help you or me? There is more than the President. So you have a lot of blame to go around.

Rush is an entertainer for the disaffected and angry rightwingers. Karl Rove is a discredited hack and maybe a lawbreaker. >>> And Clinton is liar under oath and people still listen to him your point is? George is a democratic mouth piece. So what

What is a free market? You can still go down and buy stuff. You can still invest in the stock market. You can still buy a foreign car. You can still listen to any media you want. You can still choose which bank to bank at. You can still decline your company’s health insurance and get your own, you can still have a 401k, you can still take your social security and give it to charity, you can still come and go from this country, you can still buy goods from japan on ebay…what is a free market society?

Who is this guy(Eric Cantor)? I am a Republican but I am embarrassed by this guy. He didn’t answer one of George’s questions. It was the same oh, same oh.

You know what is really amazing is that a failed DJ from Pittsburgh without a single college course in Political Science has a lot more intelligence than the entire Obama administration. Rush Rocks

The Republicans don’t mind spending money AT ALL on wild goose chases in Iraq, giving fool-hearty tax breaks which primarily benefit the rich, promoting irresponsible lending habits which lead to financial meltdown, and hobnobbing with the likes of Limbaugh and Coulter, but if government spends its money on the people, they are outraged! I don’t call that responsible leadership nor do I think that the Republicans are doing what they can to see that Obama’s programs are successful! On the contrary, their blather has scared Wall Street and demoralized many Americans who listen to them.

The republicans can put any face on they like but their rhetoric is always the same and the People of this Great Nation are on to them. They can’t hide anymore.

Hey deluded rightwingers your hero Bush RUINED the economy! Stop living in dinial. But then again if your a Rush fan your a moron for believing in this draft dodging,drugee blowhart.!

ChicagBob Taking a stake in Citi to keep if from total collapse which is where it is. Thanks for the lie. Keep lying. That’s just what our country needs ChicagBob. More lies from the right!

I don’t believe that anyone is served by having someone like Carl Rove on the show – it forces the others to revisit the presidential campange – that is over, and so is the day of Rove and his ilk! I’m not saying not to have the Repbulican view – but the existing leadership of the party still have not gotten it – the party base was trying to tell them something when they put up McCain (as was very disappointed when he turned out to be one of the good old boys as well).

Hey deluded rightwingers your hero Bush RUINED the economy! >>> I am sorry who wrote the spending bills for the last 2 years. Congress. Who runs congress? Democrats.. ROFL You dont even know how government works. You think Bush was king. Hes not. Congress writes the laws all Bush could do is say yes or no.
This is why Obama can lie all he wants. The democrats dont even know how government works.

Rightwingers believe in party over country everytime. You morons had control for eight years and you backed the people who ruined our economy and made America a most hated warlike nation. Our forefathers are spinning in their graves no doubt over the mess the Rightwingers have gotten us into!

I don’t think anyone here should forget, that the free market investment housing brought this calamity on us because they weren’t properly regulated. Now you can cry we dont need government assistance, but people our losing their homes, their retirements, their jobs, their livlihood, why dont you go talk to them. Don’t tell us, go talk to them!!! They’re your countrymen. They’re your people. They’re Americans who bought into what you’re selling. Go talk to them.

We look forward to watching ABC Sun. every week. What is perplexing was George’s decision to include Karl Rove on the roundtable today. Karl Rove is a person who as Bush’s former Chief of Staff was a lightening rod for the financial debacle of these past 8 years, that our country now faces. He represents the voice of the problem not the solution. As we try to move on in a positive fashion your program would better be served by having individuals who will work with this administration, rather than hinder it. Other conservative panalists would have been better appreciated(except Rush). Fortunately Katrina with The Nation, voiced the majority of this country’s concern on wanting to move forward.

ChicagBob Taking a stake in Citi to keep if from total collapse which is where it is. >>> WELL LET IT FALL. We dont have other banks? They were to buy banks like CITI. If we are being adults then you would know that Citi and BOA could fail and we would all survive. BUT NO we are children and we need a nany to save us. DO WE? Are we Children? The free market needed to let AIG fail. The market needed to fix itself and the government would not have to spend a dime. You think other banks would not pick up the loans?
ROFL they are happy to become bigger and stronger

I too believe that the Republican party should expel everyone to the left of Rush Limbaugh. That way the Republicans can remain ideologically pure and the Democrats can remain in office.

Posted by: ChicagoBob | Mar 1, 2009 11:22:44 AM
***ChicagoBob***SAYS***”…Failed President Failed policies LOOK at the market…”
uh… according to my calendar… Mr. Obama has been in office… 40 days…
geo w bush… the 2,920 days before that…
Failed President Failed policies… indeed…

uh… according to my calendar… Mr. Obama has been in office… 40 days… >>> AND SPENT over a TRILLION DOLLARS
If he was still working on this magic plan then what could I say but NO he is saved us all by spending a TRILLION? ??? Thats FAILURE. Thats lack of confidence.

ChicagBob posted “I am sorry who wrote the spending bills for the last 2 years. Congress. Who runs congress? Democrats.. ROFL You dont even know how government works.” Obviously you don’t know either. Having a simple majority is NOT running the country. In order to get bills to pass the Democrats had to get by a RECORD number of filibusters by the Republicans. If they managed to even pass a bill, it was vetoed by a Republican president. And since they had only a simple majority, they did NOT have the votes to override those vetoes without Republican support. By the way, Bush issued 1 veto the first 6 years in office (a 200 year record), in his last 2 years he issued 8 vetoes. So much for YOUR theories about how the government works.

I listened to the entire speech. Can some explain to me what was “ugly” or “hateful” or “bigoted” as I have read multiple places? I did not hear it. I would appreciate some specific examples. Was there anger. Damn right there was anger. The democrat policies over the last two years (yes, you read right… democrat policies… who do you think has been running the Congress over those years? Who was it that was supporting Fannie and Freddie up until the very end? saying nothing was wrong? doing nothing about it?) Obama’s policies do nothing but dump unimaginable debt on the next generation, steal money from those who still have a job, and put the dollar at serious risk of collapse which will lead to inflation or worse. I want this to fail in the same way Rush wants it to fail. I want it not to be enacted! I want all of this that will destroy the county to not be passed! As Rush, I do want Obama to truly succeed, but that will mean hacking the federal budget and lowering taxes. Since he will never do this, I want him to fail.

That is correct the democrats have had control of congress for the last 2 years and guess what the economy went in the tank. Now those same democrats voted on a bill that will put our great grandchildren in debt. That is real brilliant.

Years ago Al Franken wrote that “Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot” As far as I can tell nothing has changed. I don’t understand why anyone would listen to this drug addict’s opinions, he wasn’t even smart enough to stop himself from going deaf from his addiction to Oxycodone.

does ANYBODY really beleive… george’s roundtable goes to “The Green Room” “to continue ‘this’ discussion”… AFTER the show… ????????????????????
lessee… more like a posh georgetown restaurant for brunch…
followed by horseback riding, sailing or tennis…
then the theater…
george… drop the BS. btw… pick up your show sans sponsers on XM P.O.T.U.S….
but we’ll have to suffer 20 more years of ‘steph” before his good looks start to drain…
hey george… are ya gonna “donaldson” gibbs next? letterman at least had the class to make it on his own… not torpedo a long standing peer…
your are such a loser… another opportunist… just like the whole clinton clan…
and hillary… she looks like such a shrill in latest still photos…
at least for her… “it’s personal”.

I find it kind of funny when people start slamming Rush and from their words it is apparent all they know of him is what they have heard from others .
We believe what makes us great as a country are inividuals using their feedom to follow their dreams .
We on the right , Rush included , do not see us as a country gays , straights , blacks , whites , women , men we simply see people with the right to follow their dream wherever it takes them , to let them have the chance to have and keep whatever they can EARN .
Government is not the answer , we the people are the answer . What you want and need in this life is up to you to go out and get . Keep a safety net in place for the people that are unable to care for themselves and the rest of us able bodied folks have to get out there earn what our talents and efforts will bring us .
All I want from the Government is to protect my FREEDOM .

Hey George: I echo those who don’t want to see Karl Rowe “tell us” what we need to know. He has absolutely no credibility. Why doesn’t he honor the country he professes to love so much by testifying in front of Congress. As for Rush, his idea of American patriotism sounds a lot like the definitions coming out of Nazi Germany in the 1930′s. He will define what’s American. He will use simplistic name calling and stereotypical symbols to “control” his dittoheads. What a sad, sad, joke.

I must say that I want the policies of socialistics ideas to fail. If the Mesiah wants to go that route I hope he fails too. He will fail because the American people will discover the lack of substance he has and where he wants to take us.He is like the Chavez american version.
The democrats in my view want to keep people down because it makes way for their agenda, more goverment intervention in our lifes while squezing the money out the hardworking people to give it to the failed 50 plus years welfare system where if you fail the gov will take away from me to give it to the ones that give NOTHING.
50 plus years of people living out of the working class, enough is enough !

I love how people would rather complain about Obama and his administration than to actually do something positive for your country. The hard core right wing conservatives will be fighting against anything Obama does, and hoping for a failure to the point that one day they will wake up and there will be no country left, because instead of being part of the solution they are too much more for there party and only care for the party, not the country. If Obama was a republican they would be praising everything he does.
Anotehr thing that bothers me, is the tax cut, yeah it’s only $13 that you will see, but if they were taking $13 away you would also complain, and when your employer gives you a 25 cent raise, which amounts to $10 a week before taxes, do you complain about that? Some people and sadly it’s mostly Republicans, just like to complain about everything!

Lush Gasbag of the EIB (Egomanical Irrelevant Babblers) network is looking more and more like Jabba the Hutt every day. Ever notice?

Rick Tate posted “We on the right , Rush included , do not see us as a country gays , straights , blacks , whites , women , men we simply see people with the right to follow their dream wherever it takes them…” Please talk to us about Gay Marriage, I would love to hear your take on the issue. Also, I watched the Republican convention and saw the crowds.. If what you say is true, why were there so many old white guys?

So “disgusted” is upset because a relatively few CEO’s get bonuses. What idiocy. Life is full of choices. Some people have more talent and work harder. But you don’t think they are worth it? Shareholders ultimately decide how much a CEO gets paid. If you don’t like it, buy stock in the company and vote your concience. Don’t destroy the American economy because you think 5% of the people make too much. How arrogant.
As far as oil companies go, I’ll bet you don’t know those dividends you complain about are used by millions of retirees to support themselves. Go ahead, put the oil companies out of business but you better know how to replace that income for the millions of Americans that rely on it.

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Where was the RUSH man when God’s Own Party was jacking up the NATIONAL DEBT from 5 trillion (1999) to 10 trillion (2008)? It’s THROW-UP TIME to listen to these “fiscal conservatives” talk about how the budget is filled with pork, when BUSH presided over the fastest rise in debt and pork since WWII.
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There were plenty of conservatives who were not happy with the rise in the debt. We understood, though, that around 9-11 (remember that?) there would be higher deficits. But if you actually look at the numbers, you would see that after that the deficits were coming down. That is until last year’s fiasco. Now, if you are upset about high deficits, Bush’s addition of 5 trillion in 8 years is going to look like the work of an amateur after Obama adds at minimum 5 trillion in two.

aforefreedom posted “That is correct the democrats have had control of congress for the last 2 years and guess what the economy went in the tank.” Another total idiot like SideshowBob. Can you tell us exactly how the Democrats caused all these problems in two years and how the previous 6 years of total Republican control had absolutely no effect at all? Blind as a bat.

George S. is a skinny midget with a giant head an and enormous ego.

I am thrilled everytime I hear Limbaugh speak. Further more, Gov. Palin, Steele and even Joe the Plumber. It is like having an insurance policy that guarantees Democrat control for the next few years to come. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like higher taxes but when your government runs up expenses like Regan, Bush and Bush did, the bills eventually have to be paid. Clinton and the Rep. congress balanced their budget, so leave them out of it. Democrats might be the tax and spend party but the Republicans are the borrow and spend party. It is debt that kills a budget when things aren’t going smoothly. Deregulation and the Iraq war expense doubled out debt. Short term spending to try and jump start the economy is unfortunately necessary. Give the President a chance.

I like Rush. He’ll help the GOP continue to lose.

Oh gee whizz Harvey, now we are all put in place by your thoughtful and ever so intelligent comments. Thank you for your pearls of wisdom. By the way, speaking of intelligence, please re-read your post and correct it for spelling, punctuation, tense and correct part of speech. I’ll work on the action part. Thanks again. A very happy Lib. :)

When I hear Mr. Limbaugh inflammatory rhetoric I ask myself three questions…
How much money does he makes?
How many votes he got in the past elections?
Does he speaks for the million of disenfranchise Americans?
The answer to these questions sober me up…

ChicagBob posted “I’m sorry, but sitting around attacking our president who’s actively tackling the problems that he didn’t create may not be my best idea to date.” Wow Bob, that’s quite a turn around. It is also the most thought post I’ve read today.

If anyone thinks he’s the messiah, it’s sludge-for-brains flunk-out Rush. He speaks in prophesies, yet has never held public office and didn’t make it through even one year of college. Some intelligent Republicans are starting to ask themselves if this is the time to isolate themselves further following a sludge-for-brains flunk-out Rush who’s most worried about losing his captive audience, or follow our constitutionally elected harvard grad president with a 60% approval rating who won even the great stalwart John McCain over this last week with his reasonable bipartisan approach to Iraq. I just don’t know if it’s wise to make yourselves the party of Hoover any longer.

I have overtime come to like THIS WEEK WITH GS. I will never watch this program again if Carl Rove is brought into your discussions again.

LOL, doesn’t look like Cantor of the Dems even bothered to listen to or watch Rush’s speech yesterday. His point was that conservatism is the most inclusive and most devoted to individual success than any other political philosophy out there. Libs and Cantor, read what Rush is saying before sputtering the stale old canned attacks on us. But if you were aiming to win prizes for cluelessness than take a bow and collect your prize at the door.

Anyone who listens to Limbaugh is a moron. He is a self-serving, self-involved journalistic hack blowhard who is laughing his drug-addled fat arse off all the way to the bank. And some of you slurp up his bile like kool-aid. How sad for you. He only knows how to polarize and divide this country. He contributes nothing to society. He is a cockroach…..

Mr. Cantor, I’ll believe it when I see it.

“I am also certain that there is a special place in hell being reserved for Limbaugh.”
Based on his girth, it better be a BIG place…..

There are just too many people worried about why something wont work, or pointing fingers when we already know how it happened. I for one hope the president succeeds in turning the economy around. Barney Frank isn’t the President, nor is Rush Limbaugh. The President is the only President. If I dont like some of the changes he makes, we can all go vote again in just 2 years. So far he’s not raising the alarms any louder than Bush did. I’ve gone to http://www.recovery.gov and read the stimulus, it’s actually pretty good. I’ve analyzed what a $13 a week tax cut would be, it will actually lower my income tax by 40%!!! I’m sure if he’d raised it $13, we all woulda been crying bloody murder. People out there with money worried about 2% REVERSAL (not increase) are rediculess, you should be buying stock! Stock’s cheap! Housing…cheap! Cars…cheap! Every store offering discounts! It’s a buyers market, and you still got all the freedom in the world to buy! Gonna be some really sad rich guys who find themselves left behind when other rich guys get their head on straight. You want to stop all the stimulus and bailout…well…get to buying!

Americans are not Socialists as Obama is about to find out. Tea Party Revolution against the enslaver Obama.

chicon posed “Two simple questions that I hope someone here can answer”
1. What did they try to do? The only thing I can think of at the moment is they tried to repeal the Commodity Futures Modernization Act which exempts swaps from regulation. They had been trying for the previous 6 years without any luck. They finally passed a bill, but Bush vetoed it. As for those lying SOS’s Dodd and Frank, they should have been impeached for lying.
2. It is very true that Bush did call for a new regulatory agency to control Freddie and Fannie. There is no way to really tell if this would have helped or not. The Democrats did fight it, partly because Freddie and Fannie were already controlled by a CEO who already had the power to make the changes Bush was asking for.
I’m sorry for calling ChicaBob an idiot a while back, but it irks me when people only blame one side or the other. People have to realize that our problems are a perfect storm type scenario. Many things came together to cause our mess, not just Clinton, Bush, Republicans and Democrats. All of them, including large banks like Lehman Brothers. We NEED both sides to work together to solve our problems; I hope both sides are listening.

Oh Lord Rush – button your shirt!!! Yuck.

Brian:
Can’t let this go by:
13 x 52 = 676
That’s better than a poke in the eye, but not very helpful, especially when the checks that came out last spring which were higher did not help matters.
Now here is the lie. This is not a tax cut. It is a tax rebate. You will be taxed on this amount! Therefore, it cannot lower your taxes. If anything it may put you into a higher tax bracket. Don’t believe me? Check it out for yourself, or simply wait until next year!

Grover’s gotta be Grover Norquist!!!

I just want people with sense to control the White House, Senate, House of Representatives and Supreme Court.
The Bush administration made the Iraq mistake, but the Democrats are too air-headed and clueless for words!
Most of the insults hurled at Rush Limbaugh on this thread are typical – you only have to read them to see that the people making them are describing themselves. I bet they’re all fat, too!

chicon posted “YES. I’ll tell you who is disenfranchised. Those who work hard only to have their hard earned money stolen from them by the government to pay for someone else’s mortgage. ” And here is what I can’t understand about people like you : why do you get mad when Obama gives the money to Americans in order to try to prevent our economy from collapsing, but you’re happier the heck when Bush gives the money to rebuild Iraq after we were the ones that destroyed it? Heck, it cost a lot of money to destroy it too, so why not be made at both things. Obama is spending, but it is FOR America.

TOHELL with Dope Slimball He’s noting but a drughead baster.Hay slimie go pop somemore dope.I liked you better then.

chicon: Quotes from Rush Limbaugh’s speech:
“We want every American to be the best he or she chooses to be. We recognize that we are all individuals. We love and revere our founding documents, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. We believe that the preamble to the Constitution contains an inarguable truth that we are all endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life. Liberty, Freedom. And the pursuit of happiness. We don’t want to tell anybody how to live. That’s up to you.”
….some of your fellow Americans would question this belief…
“We don’t hate anybody. We don’t — I mean, the racism in this country, if you ask me, I know many people in this audience — let me deal with this head on. You know what the cliche is, a conservative: racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe…”
…and how did conservatives gain such a reputation? It had to have some basis–non?
Throughout his speech he just brings up old conservative rhetoric arguments which just play upon emotions. He came across to me as being somewhat miffed that he was not invited to the Obama conservative pow wow. What he did do was clean up his wanting the president to fail gibberish

Rush Limbaugh needs to waddle back to Florida and keep his potty mouth SHUT.

We on the right don’t care what gay people do in private with who ever they want . However don’t ask me to rewrite what I think is moral or ask me to give my permission for something I think is wrong .
Marriage IS and can only be between one man and one woman . It has always been so . There also have always been
people of the same sex that love one another . I do not hate them I do not wish bad things for them , I wish them well but I can’t and will not help tear down the foundation that our socitey is built on to make someone feel better about who they are .
They should be able to live with the same peace & safety as anyone
in this country .
I think you’ll still see me as some kind of right wing hater but you would be wrong . I don’t have to hate you to think you are wrong . And Gay people don’t have to have Gay Marriage to be able to follow their dreams of a good life . I thought it was the people on the left that started the whole thing of just moving in together anyway .

Franky boy, You grandchildrens lives were ruined way before Obama. Think reagan. He started whole national debt spiral. So if your gonna lay blame start with your boy reagan.

There are plenty of conservatives who were/are not happy about the war, but at least it appears to me that if we broke someone else’s country then we should fix it.
Here is why I am mad at Obama in particular and the left in general. They view my income as something that they can simply come and get whenever they want to and give it to someone who has not earned it and who expects someone else to bail them out of their trouble. Now I am particularly angry that this has gotten to the point that we have to borrow trillions just to pay the bills for one year. Whether dems or reps do it, I do not appreciate the thieves in Washington when they steal the hard earned money that my granddaughter will earn in 15 years.

Unbelievable… Rush speaks the minds of the majority of this country and we have these arrogant, pompus Republicans out there running to the woods with their tails between their legs..
This Republican Party is not the Republican party I knew just 10 years ago. Problem is…who are we going to vote in to replace all of these emasculated idiots…
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is not Congresses mandate to dictate or control the opinions of private citizens… I have zero respect for this Congress or it’s entrenched inhabitants…
Does anyone seriously think that just because Obama is of a different skin color that we MUST agree with him on everything….this has nothing to do with race, it has EVERYTHING to do with policy…and it’s the policies that Rush wants to see fail…
But liberals take everything based on classification of race, ethnicity, creed, sex, etc. Policy differentiation is that last thing liberals care to base their premises on because they know they never succeed in the arena of logical ideas or policy and what’s good for the country.
Finally, why doesn’t Rush have the right to argue his position…afterall, Obama used the legitimacy of the Office to publicly start this whole battle with not only his policies, but his public statement that people should not listen to Rush. If you don’t want the argument, you shouldn’t have started this Obama and left well enough alone.
Go Rush!

FS posted “What he did do was clean up his wanting the president to fail gibberish” Someone should have proof read that speech first. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” is from the Declaration of Independence.

Bravo Bush. According to Chairman of the Joints Chief Mullen, Iran now has enough “stuff” to make a nuclear weapon. Bush leaves another pile of steaming dung on America’s doorstep. Thanks W. All that tough guy “no talk” worked well. Bravo.

The reason I asked my previous question is because if everyone took time out to read and educate themselves, you wouldn’t see so many sound bites and media talking points posted on these blogs.

Rush is now the intellect of the GOP? What happened to Karl Rove, David Brooks, George Will, Mitt Romney and others.
Now I understand why the GOP thinks helping young people with the cost of going to collage is socialism. After all Rush the high school drop out is now the intellect of the GOP and Karl Rove, David Brooks, Mitt Romney are all stupid.
Interesting!!!!!!!!!!

Steve Your just being stupid with a post like that. And it’s not even your material. Are you able to think for yourself or do you let ex addicts like Limberger do your thinking for you.

rush did not say he wants the pres. to fail..NEVER DID..he said IF going to go to socialism wants him to fail IF getting rid of talk radio wants him to fail IF raisng taxes wants him to fail etc.. all things REPUBLICANS want HE NEVER SAID I WANT THE PRESiDENT TO FAIL but of courses LIBERALS hear only what the wantThose that said he did are lying

ChicagBob You mis read the post dude. Re-read.

Limbaugh said:”We conservatives have not done a good enough job of just laying out basically who we are because we make the mistake of assuming people know.”
I disagree. They have done an excellent job of letting us know who they are and what they stand for. That is why they are out of power and will remain in that position for decades.

Jay says “Now I understand why the GOP thinks helping young people with the cost of going to college is socialism.”
No, Jay, you don’t understand the argument against helping at all. College tuition is rising (8% per annum) at a rate more than double the rate of inflation. That translates to a 432% rise in costs since 1982, while the cost of living has risen 103% Why? Are we helping the kids or helping the professors’ unions, and how long can this go on before the price crashes like the housing prices did recently? The answer depends, of course, on how committed the Government is to maintaining that rise.

Stephanopoulos rejects Obama and Liberalism
Today, George Stephanopoulos “rejects the false hope of Barack Obama” and tells Eric Cantor “thanks for your time in defending this country’s conservative values this morning.” Stephanopoulos quotes Rush Limbaugh at length in his agreement.
Hey, its just as truthful as the ABC website. George, why did you leave out Cantor’s full quote which reflects his agreement with Limbaugh? Could it be your bias? Nah, couldn’t be that, you’re an objective journalist.

Want to read some thoughtful conservatives: try
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/how_did_this_happen.html
Quoting from the article: “Did Bush spend too much? Or too little? If he spent too much, why are Democrats spending even more, by absurdly humungous amounts? If he spent too little, why do they criticize his deficits, while quadrupling the deficit from 2008 to 2009 themselves? And don’t blame it on tax cuts. Federal revenues were above the pre-Bush average as recently as 2006 and 2007.
If something wasn’t regulated, what wasn’t regulated? Because Sarbanes-Oxley, the cure-all to financial shenanigans, was signed into law by President Bush, largely to prevent another Enron, which happened on Bill Clinton’s watch. Bush and McCain tried to get Fannie and Freddie more regulated, but were thwarted by Barney Frank, Chris Dodd and Barack Obama. You want to blame Gramm-Leach-Bliley and what it did to Glass-Steagall? That passed in the Senate by a vote of 90-8 and was signed into law by President Clinton.”

Rush is not a High school drop out .
He is a College drop out .
We have had 9 Pres.of the U.S. that did not go to college , Harry Truman being the last .
JFK was hooked on pain pills while he was in the White House .
So lets keep this about who has good Ideas oh I forgot you on the left allways lose under those rules so you always go back to name calling .

chicon posted “There are plenty of conservatives who were/are not happy about the war, but at least it appears to me that if we broke someone else’s country then we should fix it.”
Again, I don’t get the thinking. You don’t seem to mind if we borrow hundreds of billions of dollars for a needless war. On top of that, you also don’t seem to mind if we also borrow billions to give welfare to the banks. But to help Americans makes you angry. Okay, let me use you post against you. You said that if we broke someone else’s country that we SHOULD fix it. Well I say that MOST Americans did NOT cause our problems. Most Americans had nothing to do with those unregulated CDS’s, or starting a war with Iraq. I KNOW most Americans were against the bank bailout. Now Obama is borrowing money, money to be used help Americans. In other words, do to circumstances beyond the control of most Americans, our government broke OUR country. Therefore we SHOULD have them fix it.

dear mr obama i owe you some tax money on april 15 but i cant pay you because i already paid the following taxes. social security taxes, account receivable taxes,real estate tax, local hospital tax, local fire did=strict tax, cigarette tax , achohol tax, gas tax, local school district tax , state income tax, county tax,state sales tax, county sales tax, county business property tax, medicare tax, capital gains tax,fishing licence tax, hunting license tax, motor vehicle tax, boat registration tax,alternative minimum tax…..shall i go on or just accept i cant pay you. and you want to do what again?

Note to Cantor and the rest of the GOP… sit ‘n spin!
There aren’t any “positive alternatives” that are acceptable substitutes that represent equal liberties and rights for all persons – whether they are straight or gay. I’m a straight, former career military guy, and if our gay brothers and sisters can put their lives on the line or make the ultimate sacrifice in defending our freedoms then give them the same full rights and privileges as my straight comrades.
Clueless Cantor’s attempt to disguise and re-gift the same ole themes by using different wrapping paper doesn’t change the form or substance of the package. It’s just more of the same merry-go-round from the GOP.

I appreciate George Will’s view point and appreciate when Katrina Vanden Heuvel is on as well. I enjoy a lively debate of substance; most of the time the round provides this.
However, I didn’t appreciate Karl Rove talking over the panel after he was given time to present his point of view… seems he could extend the same courtesy to others (given him by the panel) and let them present their arguments — or their initial response to questions asked by the moderator.
George Stephanopoulos did a TERRIBLE job of moderating this round table.

I sure hope the proposed medical reform does not impair Mr. Limbaugh’s Dr. shopping activities….he is much more entertaining when he is pilled up !

Rich posted “Marriage IS and can only be between one man and one woman . It has always been so .” There are many cultures that believe in polygamy, including a certain religion in the U.S.. However, allow me to ask this in another way. Gay Marriage should NOT be a decision made by the government. The question of marriage should be left to the church. So how do you feel about a legalized gay union, so that gay couples can at least have the same rights?

Rush Limbaugh! Hahahahahahahahaha. A drug addict the voice of the GOP. How is the GOP going to ever accomplish power again with mouthpieces like him and Coulter. When are the GOP going to learn that their failed policies are the reasons your country is in the mess it is in now. I am your northern neighbor and I love America, but I have to wonder why 45% of Americans still support these pompous individuals who care nothing for average citizens except to make them richer. Rush Limbaugh, the radio drug addict who used his maid as his “connection” to buy illegal heroin-based drugs and risked her life in doing so. Limbaugh invented modern hate radio, radio for the stupid and insane,the paranoid and ignorant, radio for those fearful of change and longing for a return to the imaginary “values” of a past America.Do you think this man cares for what average Americans are going through right now? Rush, who lives in a house ,a thirty million dollar compound. I think not. Rush Limbaugh reminds me of Heinrich Himmler, The Nazi head of Hitler’s SS police and Gestapo. In his speech addressing the SS group leaders on October 4, 1943, while in Poznan, Himmler gave his actual thoughts and ideas of how one of his men, on the Waffen SS, should act and hate anyone who was not of their own ‘blood’. In his speech, he stated ” Whether nations live in prosperity or starve to death interests me only in so far as we need them as slaves for our culture; otherwise, it is of no interest to me.”. Doesn’t this remind anyone of what the GOP stand for? Sickening.

*******……”Want to see a failing party, just look at it’s leaders.>> Thats right one party sees America as an endless line of soup kitchens and people who need a nanny
and the other sees the land of opportunity. Which party do you stand with? —Posted by: ChicagBob | Mar 1, 2009 1:40:56 PM…….*******
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I guess it is all relative on what you consider the meaning of “land of opportunity”–For whom???
Certainly not for people who play by the rules and do the right thing!
I guess if you like a party that needs to be in your business, you will like the Republican Party….

Hey John – I love Coulter, she’s hot! But you call her a “mouthpiece” like anyone listens to her.

I guess it is all relative on what you consider the meaning of “land of opportunity”–For whom??? >>> FOR THOSE that take advantage of it. Where do you think more millionaires are made? THINK about it for a bit.

Here is the democratic form of debate.
YOU are stupid man. What every you said.
YEAH and your mother too. ROFL.. The democrats are children that need a nanny and thats why they want the government to run their lives. SAD bunch the democratic hands in your pockets group.

chicon posted “The theft of my granddaughter’s earnings.” I’m sorry but you were giving the impression that Obama’s borrowing was worse than Bush’s borrowing. I stand corrected. To tell the truth, I really don’t know what the solution is. Bush pushed bank bailout, he said it had to be done NOW, no waiting; everything would collapse if not done now. McCain rushed to D.C. because he said we needed to get this done now! The question is, were they lying? I don’t know.

Many on the right have made their intentions clear… they are not team players, which seems to be the most anti-American attitude one could have, especially at this moment in time. For those on the right, it is an “us” versus “them” mentality with no regard for “team USA”. They’re more than happy to cheer the further decline of our nation at the expense of every American. Rush Limbaugh is proudly anti-American and this is who the republicans are hailing as their new messiah?? DISTURBING.

“This talk about “we are leaving our children and grandchildren with debt the can not pay” is laughable. Boy!!! do GOP know how much debt collage students are in now, with all this huge collage loans.
So GOP our children and Grandchildren are already in debt now. So if you are really concerned about them then help them with their collage loans now.
OH!!!!!!!!! I forgot the Rush the high school drop-out is the leader so he does not understand the use in going to collage.”
*sigh*
You are correct, student pay way too much for college, and in fact, when you look at it in the same way you look at housing, you should realize that college costs are also a bubble that will bust. So why has it so inflated? For the same reason that housing was inflated. Government encouraged the purchase of housing driving up the price. Now with government scholarships and loans, colleges can raise their rates because they will still get students because the government will pay for it. The students think they are getting helped, but they are not. They pay interest and higher taxes because of it. If the government would get out of this business, college rates would have to go down, some colleges would fail, students may have to work a year after high school before going to college, but in the long run they will be better off.

Posted by: ChicagBob:- Here is the democratic form of debate.
YOU are stupid man. What every you said.
YEAH and your mother too. ROFL.. The democrats are children that need a nanny and thats why they want the government to run their lives. SAD bunch the democratic hands in your pockets group.
You mean the way Republicans have had their hands in everyones pockets the last 8 years. Where is all the money going to right now, money you do longer have or will have if your country keeps going along the path it is. Oh, I forgot, its all the Democrats fault but yet its been a Republican adminstration for the last 8 years. Hey ChicagBob, get your head out of your a$$ and maybe you could see where and how your country ended up in this mess in the first place.

Hush Rush, Hannity, Coulters, and O’Reilly !
With those big fat paychecks that you receive off the back of the unintelligent and porn seeking conservative republicans will help the millions who are uninsure in this country!!!
TAX THEM ALL!!!!

The biggest problem I have with the Republican Party is their insistence on legislating morality and promoting the strict evangelical Christian religion. I don’t want to see a gay couple kissing in public but what they do behind closed doors is their business. Sex education and evolution should be taught in schools but unlike Democrats I don’t think it should take $337 million to teach kids how sexually transmitted diseases are transmitted. Uh, let me think about it.
The Supreme Court has ruled on abortion. It has to go back to the court before it can change so why discuss it?
Democrats on the other hand seek to circumvent the parts of the Constitution they don’t like and raising taxes is simply a given. The death tax threatens family farms and other family businesses worse than the dust bowl ever did. Democrats don’t want to hear what the proletariat has to say about welfare, amnesty for illegal aliens, gun control or energy. Seems like they take half their orders from the UN and the other half from Mexico City.
It all boils down to which party you think ignores the American people the most.

john– well said the sky is falling the sky is falling republicans are just scared little children

The problem is not that the GOP and conservatives have listened to or followed Limbaugh et al – it’s that they *haven’t*.
When the GOP *follow* conservative principles, they win. When the fail to do so and try to move to the center and be ‘democrat lite’, they fail. Every time.
By all means, Mr. Cantor, let’s continue to put up candidates like McCain as a ‘big tent’ appeal to the left and such. Worked spectacularly well, didn’t it? And you think more of the same in the future is the answer?
Moronic. Resign, Cantor. Get the hell out of the way and let some true conservatives handle the leadership since you can’t.

Oonogil – It all boils down to which party you think ignores the American people the most.
Well well well. A republican who has at least soem intelligence. I commend you for your post Oonogil. At least your one Republican that can agree to disagree without hoping the country fails. Its nice to finally see some wisdom in a GOP supporter.

As an Independent I will be the first to say that America needs a two party system because neither the right or the left have shown the integrity or the maturity to govern fairly for ALL the people. When one side gets too powerful, the power tends to go to their heads and then they start putting forth pet projects and wars that may not be the best thing for all of us. Reagen and Clinton had reasonably successful presidencies because they didn’t have their party controlling Congress for most of their presidency and it required that they work together to produce meaningful legislation. The only exception I see to that is the last two years of Bush 43, where they just weren’t willing, together, to produce the legislation to improve and protect our nation. The prime example of this was the failure of Fannie and Freddie, where both sides were aware of the problem long before it manifested and did nothing about it. Today, we are back to a one party control of our nation. The Democrats, said, “WE WON,” and have implemented their programs to save the economy, without allowing any meaningful input from the Republicans. They were so sure of how good it would be that they didn’t even allow their own members to read the final copy. They gave an 1100 page document to every member of Congress at 11PM and told them to read it, because it would be voted on the first thing in the morning. So, please tell me, is this the kind of transparency that the President promised us during the elections? Is this hope and change we can all believe in? Or, is this just more of the same, another power drunk orgy designed to reward the political allies of the people in power? Time will tell.

I don’t know why people get so hot and bothered by what Rush says. He himself has admitted the he is primarily an entertainer(a person who tries to please or amuse). I find him amusing even if he is not usually pleasing. Other entertainers make statements, usually left oriented, and they are generally dismissed as over zealous liberals. Rush is just an overzealous conservative who it so happens makes a bundle of money getting people upset. So, just laugh off what he says and find something important to get excited about – Rush too shall pass….

I do not understand why we spend so much money rebuilding Iraq, buy oil from the Middle East(the same people we call our enemies)making them rich and want to kill us, but when we spend money on Americans in America, we can that ear marks and wasteful spending.
Does anyone have an idea the amount of money America sends to Israel, Africa and other counties every year? And we wonder why we are broke?

Only one answer to it all…
“re-establish the limits and boundaries of Government as framed by the Founding Fathers of the United States of America.”
Yes…there really is a Conservative Party. It’s at http:conservativepartyusa.org

My last note and now I definitely have to get some work done: Here are three good conservative blogs:
http://www.openmarket.org/
http://www.independent.org/blog/
http://www.coyoteblog.com/
They tend to focus on financial matters (though not entirely) are are not necessarily supporters of the war.

Posted by: Joanne600
Spending by Republicans and Democrats alike over the last eight years was utterly out of control and indefensible. However, if you want to attack GWB for spending, how can you not attack BHO when he has tripled the deficit in a month? It just makes no sense – we cannot spend our way out of a recession and prosperity will never trickle up.
Joanne, if your current adminstration did nothing to get your economy moving again, your country would fall into the biggest depression in its history. Think about it for a minute. Right at this moment, the unemployment figure stands at around 15 per cent, just 9 per cent shy of the unemployment total at the very height of the great depression. If the Obama admistration had done what the Republicans are saying and not pass this bill, your country would see the greatest uemployement rate in its history. You and many of your family, friends and neighbors would be without a job in less than 6 months. I pray and hope that your country can pull itself out of the mess its in. Because the alternative of doing nothing like you purpose, would of been your country’s undoing.

I doubt that not one, I repeat not one of these Obama bashers, make more than $250,000 per in taxable income, per year. For dimwits, read carefully I said, and I emphasize. TAXABLE INCOME, not GROSS INCOME. But they cry cry, whine and whine, please stop. Your minds you have gladly given over to the manipulaters the mind snacthers. They know how to control your very being.

Sorry John
I’m a physical conservative, not a Republican. I do end up voting for Republicans more than Democrats but I try to educate myself on personal candidates and issues. I have intense fear of those with blind loyalty to any party.
The Evangelicals scare me almost as much as gun control advocates. I worship as I see fit and I own several guns to defend that right. That makes Democrats and Republicans both mad at me.

Cantor will apologize to Rush very soon. He will be on Rush’s show by the end of next week.
Does anyone what to bet on that?

I doubt that not one, I repeat not one of these Obama bashers, make more than $250,000 per in taxable income, per year. For dimwits, read carefully I said, and I emphasize. TAXABLE INCOME, not GROSS INCOME. But they cry cry, whine and whine, please stop. Your minds you have gladly given over to the manipulaters the mind snacthers. They know how to control your very being. >>>>>>>
BECAUSE WE WANT TO DREAM OF GOING BEYOND. You want to destroy our dreams? The rich are just busy hiding their money so the government cant take it. You think they arent moving off shore by the hour? You are nuts.

Obama = War on Prosperity

ChicagBob- you poor slob, I would bet you never, ever make more than $250,00 taxable income per year. You are a mere trifle, a plaything for those with alot more on the ball. Dream on sucker.

LOL!!! I hear this talk about how socialism and communism is so bad, but we have rich people in this so called capitalist country investing and hiding they money off shore “socialist and communist countries”.
China is a communist nation but own most of our debt.
Switzerland is a socialist country but guess where a lot of rich Americans hide their money, in UBS banks in Switzerland.

Republicans are the party of ME ME ME. Democratic party is the party of WE. That about sums it up.

China is a communist nation but own most of our debt. >>> Yeah John and they are going which way? OH YEAH they are becoming capitalists while we are trying to hurt the producers of this nation. Isnt that the democratic message? IF YOU make money we HATE YOU and YOU NEED to pay. WOW thats inspirational. You sure are going to get people that want to suffer and move forward.

ChicagBob – First you have too be at least semi-literate, which you are not.
Second you have too know when you are bing manipulated, which you don’t. I could on, but your a lost soul, a blind follower and blind followers never make it too the top. They always blame their tribulations and misfortune on others. Just like you.

John
Most of the richest people in the US are Democrats including Warren Buffet and Bill Gates. The Republicans are the party of the rich and the Democrats are the party of the super rich and elitist. If you think Democrats protect the working American, think again.
High ranking Democrats know that rasing taxes on the rich will get them re-elected because the proletariat is foolish enough to believe they won’t be taxed as much. In truth the wealthy businessman will simply pass on any tax increases to his customers in the form of higher prices. So who ends up really paying the tax? You and me brother, no matter how you slice it.
In theory, practice and theory are identical. Is practice they are often different. Taxing the rich is just theory. In practice, it doesn’t work.

In truth the wealthy businessman will simply pass on any tax increases to his customers in the form of higher prices. >>> Or pay for loop holes. It all happened before. During Kenedy the top tax rate was like 65% and there were so many stories of the rich not paying any taxes. So for those that think you will soak the rich, remember who throws those congressional parties from democrats and republicans.

Yeah, ChicagBob you think China is becoming a capitalist nation, well they have universal health care the one you think is so bad. They have government sponsored education the one you think is walfare. They pay the workers very low that is why Americans companies are outsourcing our jobs to china. I guess you will want paid that much in America.

“Who is this guy(Eric Cantor)? I am a Republican but I am embarrassed by this guy. He didn’t answer one of George’s questions. It was the same oh, same oh.”
Eric Cantor could not exist in a typical American political environment. He is isolated, insulated and massively funded here in the little petri dish of Richmond VA’s blue-blood, republican local politics. He never has to answer any questions, present any agenda or campaign for re-election. He just has to plant expensive signs and flash his vanilla mug on TV to get re-elected.

Chicago Bob Is Part of the 30 Percent of Americans that think the Gop are relevant, But what Chicago Bob and The Other 29 Percent of Americans Fail to realize THEIR PARTY Is Responsible for the Mess we are in and Their Party is heading down the road to Extinction! with these Far Right Nuts their Dragging out, Steele,Jindal,Limbaugh Palin, they are headed Straight for Extinction! The Gop and its Members are not in touch with America!

THEIR PARTY Is Responsible for the Mess we are in and Their Party is heading down the road to Extinction! >>> ANGIE DREAM ON. You and your communist nut cases (SEE I CAN NAME CALL TOO ) are going to get your clocks cleaned. As the economy sinks because of the terrible Obama / democratic policies we will see what lies you make up next. READ Angie New York Times 1999.
Look for the link in my post at
11:34:31 AM

Persevere OOHH so you like to talk about unproven conspiracies. That makes you literate alright.

BTW, I watch the interview with Eric Cantor. He did not come out and say he rejected what Rush said. He was trying to be statesman-like and said something to the effect of “of course we want Obama to succeed.” Unfortunately, misses the point that if Obama succeeds, America loses!
Rush want’s American to succeed which is mutually exclusive from Obama successfully implementing his socialistic policies.
Anyone that actually heard Rush’s speech yesterday would understand this.

Oh there is no question that government is in the hands of a few elites. You can add Pelosi, Kennedy, Biden and many others to the pile. Tying GWB to Enron is however quite a reach. That said, capitalism has existed and we have flourished, but sometimes there are failures as well. That’s why I am not in favor of bailouts. And truly it is presumptuous of you to assume I have somehow been manipulated.

Here is the democratic ideal. Everyone wear grey jump suits so we dont offend anyone by being different. We all have no God in our lives because the government is GOD. We have no desire to succeed because success is evil. You can add more but that about sums up the democratic ideals. TEAR down the successful so the less fortunate feel better.

ChicagBob
Bill Clinton won with white americans and African americas
George Bush won with white americans and Latio americans
Barack Obama won with white americans, black americans, latio amerians and young americans
SO GOP you need to start paying attention to one of these groups besides white America or you can hate all you want, you will never win.

Joanne – Kenny Boy, Bushy’s nickname for Ken Lay, the CEO of Enron, was an instrumental player in fashioning our national energy policies and requlations. In secret, the minutes of the meetings the prior adminestration will not release. In my state that kind of policy making ia not lawful.

Jay,
Unlike you libs, conservatives do not see America as a collection of sub-groups. We do not see people as groups of whites, blacks, gays, latinos, etc. – all with special interests that need to be pandered to.
We see people as being Americans! We see individuals each with potential. We do not lump people together into groups so that we can tell them that they are victims of some imaginary boogey-man oppressor.
You libs like to divide people into groups (divide & conquer). Then you tell each group its a victim of some other group (usually white christian mean), then you tell them to vote for Dems so that they can have to government protect them and provide for them. Its a sick and perverted trick you do to these people.
Conservatives believe in preserving the freedom as guaranteed by our Constitution and our founding fathers. Conservatism believes in the individual, and the right of each person to live their life as they choose and pursue their own happiness. We reject having an all mighty federal government micro-manage our lives and tell us how we can and can’t live. Why would any right-thinking American want the government to control their lives?

Persevere >>> thats thinking. Its not like the PORK BILL that was rammed through congress before they could read it. GEEZ what a weird outlook.

I’ve seen the links between Enron and Bush and I’ve seen the links between the Clinton administration and nuclear secrets leaked to the Chicoms and I have seen Obama linked to the Rev Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers and other assorted creeps and his questionable loan from Tony Rezko. None of it has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt(except maybe the Chicom leak) so really what is your point? Perhaps that we should have more ordinary people seeking office rather than political elites? And yes Obama falls under that category. He didn’t rise from nowhere in a short time without a lot of money and support.

Chicago Bob
Someone has to Pay for Bushes Spending in Iraq and Wall St Bailouts better then borrowing from China the Republican way Borrow and Spend put the Country in huge Debt and Before you Know it China OWNS US!Borrow and spend right Republicans!

“You libs like to divide people into groups (divide & conquer)” ——
Did you listen to Rush and his divisive words, how many of these groups did you see in CPAC.
“Conservatives believe in preserving the freedom as guaranteed by our Constitution and our founding fathers.”——
For you information AMERICANS believe in preserving the freedom as guaranteed by our constitution and our founding father.
Now who likes to (divide & conquer)

For you information AMERICANS believe in preserving the freedom as guaranteed by our constitution and our founding father.
Now who likes to (divide & conquer)
——————
Jay. Oh really? Then you’re saying that libs are basically Un-Americans, b/c the LAST thing they are interested in is persevering the freedom as guaranteed by our constitution and our founding fathers. Looks like you and I can agree on something.

If the republican party rejects having the almighty federal government micro-manage their lives, why would you allow your past almighty president/ruler to bury us in debt and put us in a war no one wants,and to allow the economy to run off a cliff and then require that government to bailout those that made it happen. The republican party is a party of hippocrates. You all made this bed now its time to (lie) in it.
If you pride yourself in working hard to make it to the socioeconomic class you are in, then you should be proud of all other workers no matter their class. We are all workers, providing resources to workers, that distribute resources to workers. That is Capitalism and the American way, not socialism and a path to failure.

Angie, Conservatives have absolutely no interest in what you or any other woman do with your body. We just think you might assume some personal responsibility. So if you need birth control, pay for it yourself. If you want an abortion, since it is legal and unfortunately in the Constitution now, then pay for it yourself. Otherwise close your legs and don’t ask us to bail you out. Gay couples can have the same rights as any married couple with the proper legal documentation. How is that NOT freedom? Why does the left insist upon teaching homosexuality as part of sex education to children in elementary school? Why do young children need to learn about AIDS? Why is it always about sex anyway and when, for God’s sake are any of you going to actually read the Constitution and understand what it says?

Angie,
Oh my goodness. Are you really going to go there???? First of all, if you really want to bring up the abortion issue, I am MORE THAN happy to debate you on that. First of all, lets keep in mind that there are 2 people involved in abortion. Obviously, one is the woman and the other is the baby! Conservatives are NOT trying to take a away a woman’s right to take off her clothes, and have sex with who ever she wants – its her choice. But the second there’s another human being involved, then SOMEONE has to stand up for that baby’s right to LIFE! You know, right to life…as stated by the Constitution. Its no longer just the woman’s body. Its a shared between the unborn and the woman. If you don’t want the baby, then put it up for adoption and then you can go do whatever you want with your body!
Gay marriage? First all, I don’t know of a single conservative that wants to tell gay people HOW to live. What we want is to preserve the definition of one of our most important institutions. The definition of marriage has NOTHING to do with allowing gay people to live how they want.

Now lets talk about real assaults on freedoms. How about the libs trying to impose to the censorship by passing laws to silence talk radio?

Joanne
First of all I dont think the Conservatives Know the Constitution Anymore, Second Our Children should learn about Aids and Dangerous sexual Diseases that could harm or Kill them Sex is part of Life unlike you Religious Right wingers want to keep Sex a secret And Believe in absent only like the Idiot Palin! Like her Daughter said Thats not Realistic THE COUNTRY IS CHANGING AND REPUBLICANS ARE NOT I say to them GET OUT OF THE STONE AGES!

Yes it’s true, millions upon millions of your fellow citizens donated between $25 and $500 dollars to Obamas campaign >>>
And they did the same for McCain. Whats the point? Did you know there was a loop hole in this? They did not say how many times someone actually contributed $25.00 Hmm… Me wonder why. Transparency in action? Oh online contribution can be made through pre paid visa so there is no record. SO.. If I wanted to cheat the system I could.
It sounds so cool until you think more like Blago the EX GOV from IL.

There is no valid reason to teach AIDS to children in the elementary grades. Sex is not a part of life for children. However, it is apparently the driving force in your political ideology.

MBNA Joe
Just like that coke sniffer, drunken, failure in everything he tried. Untill he was “born again” through Rove’s womb and bought, with a wad of daddy’s money a ride of the tide of evangelism and use of far right bullcrap. Only thing left to scaare the middle into a position of president of a once great nation.

cHICAGO BOB
I Take it your In favor of Borrowing From China for wars and Bailouts you like the Borrowing REPUBLICANS BORROW OTHERS MONEY AND SPEND!

I Take it your In favor of Borrowing From China for wars and Bailouts you like the Borrowing REPUBLICANS BORROW OTHERS MONEY AND SPEND!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No I am not why do you think I voted to throw out the republicans in the last election? DOH! AND SURE AM NOT in favor of OBAMA REID AND PELOSI spending US into such debt that there will a tax on breathing either.

When the US incurs debt, we issue bonds to cover it. Much of that debt is bought by countries like China because historically our debt was considered to be safe. Right now the Chicoms are laughing themselves silly because as they entertain greater capitalism (albeit with ghastly human rights issues and the horrors of socialized medicine) we are descending into the bowels of full fledged socialism. Like many here I don’t disavow the fault of the past administration in spending too much money, but the deficit has been tripled in the past month and more is promised. Whether he intends this or not, Obama is going to bankrupt the country if we don’t stand up and fight.

You have to love how the clueless Obamabots distract themselves endlessly with Limbaugh, Palin, Jindal, Steele, Cantor, etc., while Obama is actively implementing regressive taxes on them…first with tobacco (roll your own tax going from $1.25 to $24 per pound–not a typo) and now new “cap & trade” energy taxes which have the potential to raise the price of gasoline by $1.27 per gallon and electricity prices by 68%. The energy taxes, especially, will be devastating to many middle-class American familes (as high gasoline prices were last year). But the Obamabots aren’t paying attention. They’re more worried about attacking Republicans who pose no threat to them. That, in a nutshell, is why liberalism is called a mental disorder.

It would have been interesting had George asked Cantor been asked why most of the Republicans in the CPAC audience stood and cheered Rush’s remarks.

Angie, I only held my nose and voted for McCain because the alternative was unacceptable. Since the early 1990s AIDS education has been taught in middle schools and in high school. There has been a push in various states including California to teach this at the elementary level. This information is available on the internet, there is research that can be done or you can simply accuse your opposition of being ill informed mindless robots. The latter seems to make you feel good about yourself.

Angie, if you don’t want China to buy our debt, then tell Obama not to incur that debt to begin with.

Interesting Comments! Why don’t you look at every administration as being there for a purpose – either to create a mess or clean out a mess.
Afterall if we continually have the same government in post we will be more like those 3rd world countries. All I am aware of is that the world is in a state and no one really has an answer. I see every country trying to work out a strategy that works.
One thing is certain though we don’t need to blame each other for having a particular opinion – remember we are all to some certain extent shaped by our cultural and religious belief.
The only thing that has been brought to my attention recently is that some middle-class families are on food stamps and homeless, not because they were extravagant but only because they are now out of a job because of an economic meltdown.

Angie PA ??? What part of Obama’s Budget pays off the debt incurred from the war? What part? If you dont like spending you need to find another candidate. I dont care if he is a democrat. You need another one. Obama is a spendaholic. He hasnt seen an ear mark of spending he doesnt like. Cap and Trade is where he gets even with the lower and middle class for putting him into office as he taxes us to redistribute all of our wealth. See he is not just after the rich he is coming after everyone.
If you dont like spending then maybe you need another candidate.

We wonder where Iran gets the money to build nukes, here is how they do it, we buy their oil and they use the money to build it, and they use our money for oil to sponsor terror. How smart is that. >>> And HOW MUCH OIL do we have off the coast of CA and in Alaska? How many nuke plants can we build in short order to address the electric problems. BUT you dont want to hear that. Do we want better answers SURE but even the best scientists say we are a long way away from this kind of power generation. Doesnt matter how much cash you toss at it the discoveries to make clean energy take time.

Chicago Bob is right, we could end our dependency on ME oil if the leftists in Congress would allow nuclear development and drilling off our coasts including ANWR. Think of all the people put to work building nuke plants and getting that drilling started. But noooo, we’re going for windmills and solar. Yeah that’s the ticket. Since liberals always want to be like Europeans, why can’t we emulate the French and use nuclear power?

Why don’t you quote your source “Dan In SC”? I quoted mine – the Merriam-Webster. Could it be because you get your info from the “Conservapedia” – well that certain sounds fair and balanced doesn’t it? What wrong, couldn’t find a REAL encyclopedia to back up your propaganda?

OB-Wan222
The source of my definition does not really matter because EVERYONE on this blog knows it to be true!

JOANNE
Can we Store the Nuclear waste in your Back yard CHICAGO BOB As far as Obamas spending at least he spending that Money here in AMERICA
Difference in Presidents Spending
BUSH-Spending in Iraq,Big Oil Wall St
OBAMA-Spending in America for things Bush Neglected Roads,Bridges,healthcare,Jobs,Education see the Difference

“Since liberals always want to be like Europeans, why can’t we emulate the French and use nuclear power”
Because we can not invest in nuclear power and tell Iran not to because we think they may end up building nuclear nuclear weapons. GOT IT?

Amen ~~ Angie of PA

ChicagBob
What do you think tax cut is? It’s spending. >>> ?? How do you figure not collecting other peoples money as spending. Thats about as upside down as I have ever heard.

Jay
Typical Republicans not THINKING They yell Nuclear Power and thats ok but they dont stop and think where to Store the Waste Saftley and Properly!

Angie in PA >>>>> Is nuc a permanent resolution to the energy problem? NO its not. BUT its the only thing we have today. I FOLLOW alternative energy and am a HUGE proponent on creating a Manhattan type project to solve this issue. SO ? Why dont we do that? The problem is while we wait for the magic bullet to arrive what do we do? What if the magic bullet is 15 years away? Are you going to pay the Saudis and Iran for 15 years while we wait??
Thats the problem with the alternative issue. It wont come online for a very long time. With that same resolve we can get derricks off the coast and pumping oil in 2 years. We can build nuke plants that work in 3 or 4(cant remember the exact number) IS IT MY IDEAL SOLUTION? Again no but I am adult and I realize that not everything is pretty nor the way I want it to be.

Nuclear plants can be perfectly safe – it is clean power and it works. No you can’t store the nuclear waste in my backyard and we won’t store it in yours either. As for spending on jobs, healthcare, education and all of the handouts expected. Job creation isn’t the job of the federal government, but I already know that you disagree with that. Healthcare has been hijacked by insurance companies, but if you really want it to be expensive, just wait until it’s free. It will also be rationed as it is in England. Education spending? We keep pouring more money into public schools and it doesn’t seem to help. Even the Obamas didn’t dare send their kids to public schools in Chicago and that is after Obama oversaw the Chicago Annenberg Committee which was charged with parceling out money to improve the schools. Perhaps there’s a bit of a problem with corruption in the unions? As for higher education, pay for it yourself. I did and so have millions of others.

Economists agree that govt. spending is the fastest way to generate jobs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BUT what would be better? Waiting until the recession ended in about a year? Or drilling ourselves into endless debt? PICK , I guess you did. WE can tough out a year. WE have done it several times before. Do you know the 13 dollar a week Obama tax cut (what a sick joke) is taxable? Do you also know that it cost 247 BILLION dollars?
Was that worth 247 Billion dollars of debt of do you think it could have waited?

Chicago Bob
this is not a Typical Recession

Cantor is a wimp. He should’ve asked “Hey Stephie, I have two questions for you: First, are you still taking daily conference calls from the White House (funny how only Dems can be “nonpartisan” newscasters), and second, do you agree with the president’s plan to massively restructure the country to a socialist economy?

JOANNE,CHICAGO BOB AND DAN IN SC
Why no crying when Bush was Dropping Billions of your Dollars to Rebuild Iraq? No crying when Bush was Spending Billions to Bailout Wall St? But because President Obama wants to Spend and Invest Money in AMERICA And Fix the Things Bush Neglected because His whole Presidency was about Iraq not this country all you Conservatives Cry and Whine WHY?
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Republicans believe in giving taxpayers money to corporations ans the wealthy.
Democrats believe in giving and spending taxpayers money on average americans. In other words, republicans believe in using the governemnt and it’s resources to specifically benefit corporations and the wealthy as they ignore average americans needs. Democrats believe in using the government’s resources to benefit average americans first corporations secord.

Why no crying when Bush was Dropping Billions of your Dollars to Rebuild Iraq? No crying when Bush was Spending Billions to Bailout Wall St? >>>>
Angie you are wrong. Here is how I felt about Iraq.. Once we crossed the border we were there to win it. You cant back out once you went into a country to do something. DID I THINK CONGRESS POWELL and the rest of the people did a huge disservice by not vetting the war? YES!!
Republican and Democratic Congress did us all a disservice by not vetting the war.
But once we went in it was our duty to finish what we messed up and started.
IF WE didnt we would be back spending far more than we did with a far more dangerous problem. Now look at Iraq..
SO far God bless it seems stable and if we are lucky it will deliver us peace in a region that was a mess for far too long. IF we are lucky.
No crying when Bush was Spending Billions to Bailout Wall St? >>>> Again I was very disappointed that CONGRESS passed that disaster. WHY DID THEY AGREE to spend that money? I still think it was a huge mistake.

Republicans believe in giving taxpayers money to corporations ans the wealthy >>>>
OH Class warfare.. This is the biggest lie in the democratic party. Who creates wealth.. People that run companies or the government? Think hard on that one. No companies no money for taxes because no one is working.
And you want to soak the rich. Get EVEN because you have not got your share right?
Start your own company. Thats my answer. RUN IT work on it 24×7 and see if you want people to call you evil for success?

Do you think the 247 billion should have go to the wealth people? Remember the Republican were proposing 400 billion dollar in tax cut so that would have been maybe 23 dollar a week.(that is not a sick joke right?)
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I agree that we SHOULD not give tax cuts unless they can create jobs.
I am not against the 200 billion in infrastructure spending are you?
I dont even think Republicans are against that. Targeted tax cuts that encourage employment I can go for.

what is the Republican solution to high cost of collage education, health care and infastrucature. >>>> To be honest it should not be a federal thing but a state thing. Every states issue when it comes to education is different because of the make up and population density of the state. The one shoe fits all approach we have had for generations is stupid.
Its why I liked school choice. We need new ideas not old school union protectionism.
Infrastructure, I dont think anyone was against the 200 billion out of the 800 billion spent on that. yeah you should check that out. Its a deficit expense but employs people in construction for the short term and has a reasonable reward. But the other 600 billion is insane.

Angie,
Compaines do not go Off shore Because of Taxes they Leave because of Cheaper Labor and they dont have to Provide Healthcare! >>> Your right? So what can Obama do but tax more and force them to move completely off shore to places like Ireland whose corporate tax rate is less than ours. What then? You lost all the revenue you once had. I have a carrot and stick approach. Would you agree to a 50% tax cut for American companies that hire and subcontract 95% American? Then a raise the tax up to 50% more based on the percentage of American work force?
This way you encourage business to hire American and not H1 B workers etc.
What do you think? doesnt cost us a dime to try it.

LOL!!!!! ChicagBob
if you think Iraq is will be stable just remember how Sabbam come to power, he over throw the previous government. This is the problem with us, we think we can change every country? Just look at us, we can not ever come together are Democrats and Republicans because be have different philosophies. We have race issues in this country and we think we can change Iraqis, when we have own racial and ideological differences.

jay is this what you are hoping for Iraq to fall so you can feel better? Iraq for the moment is stable. I hope and pray it stays that way. You want to destroy the progress we paid so high a price for? Is that your idea of cheering on America? Or are you a doom and gloom American ?

Jay
we cannot Keep going into Other Countries Demanding they Live like Us or Die! its about time we start Worrying about our own country!

Chicago Bob
seems like you care more for the Success in Iraq then you DoFor your Own countries Sucess now thats a Gloomy American

Joanne600: What usually happens though is college students lean left until they get out in the real world…
Funny I usually find it the other way around. They get into college and “discover” Ayn Rand and become brainwashed by her smooth sales pitch.
Then they get out into the real world and realize that greed is not a force for good. They see that great things can be acheived through self-sacrifice.
They begin to question the lack of consumer protection and worker safety in unrestricted capitalism. They see the evil done by corporations solely out for their bottom line.
Don’t get me wrong. I believe in capitalism, for the most part, but its not the answer to every problem. And there is no “pure” capitalist system in the world (nor pure socialist nor communist) so that means the debate is really about the kind of regulation and oversight.

Chicago Bob
seems like you care more for the Success in Iraq then you DoFor your Own countries Sucess now thats a Gloomy American >>>>> HOW do you get that impression? Because I think Obama and the democrats are off their rocker? You think that means i dont care for America? Now that is a joke. Do you support Hillary when she said its our right as Americans to disagree? Or does that only work if you support Democratic positions?

Chicago Bob you do Know that Budget Obama threw out there Includes Bushes War spending he Hid! >>> Yeah I knew all about the fact the war budget was off the table. The BIG price tag wasnt the war as much as its TARP and the new SPENDING and Obamas new budget. THOSE are things I cant ever support. We dont have the money for it. I wont give in on this no matter how often you bring up Bush because 2 wrongs dont make a right.

Let’s cut out the political rhetoric crap and get to the point of the debate! I,for one, agree with the spirit of Limbaugh’s statement.
The point of Limbaugh’s remarks is found in this quote from his speech: “What is so strange about being honest and saying I want Barack Obama to fail if his mission is to restructure and reform this country so that capitalism and individual liberty are not its foundation?”
I would like to see an independent polling organization ask the American people the following: If you thought that the Obama administration’s policies sought to reform this country so that capitalism and individual liberty are not its foundation, would you want its efforts to fail?
I’d be very surprised if a significant majority of the citizens did not answer YES.

ChicagBob: Why did congress go along?
Politics, pure and simple.
ChicagBob: Why did Powell not resign and say it was wrong?
Because he didn’t find his b*lls again until he resigned.
ChicagBob: They all did us a great disservice by not opposing this before we crossed the border.
I agree, but you should have heard the scorn I got when I suggested that we allow time for the UN team to finish their inspection – the inspection that came up with the right answer. Americans were in no mood for rational thought.
Of course, the real scam was the lead up to the war while Bush was pretending that he hadn’t made up his mind. There were so many troops on the border that if they didn’t go it would have taken 6 months to cycle them back to the theater again. But Bush pretended that he was going to give Saddam “one more chance”. Just another in a long, long string of lies.

It was a Republican Congress at the Time, and Powell Did Resign afterwards. But Bush really Sold that War well He did a Good Job into Making US ALL think Saddam had Wmds. >>>>>>>
Stop thats why we have congressmen that know all the secret stuff that we DO NOT.
SO I dont feel stupid I feel our congress did not do its job. They were lazy and check the information. Thats their job. And when they come on TV to report it was a good idea. What can I say. ONCE we crossed the border I turn off all the naysayers until its over. The Iraqi people as well our own soldiers deserved a win.
And was BUSH given bad intelligence?? You think thats not possible?

Angie in PA,
If by “duty to stand by our President”, you mean that we let him do whatever he pleases without opposition, then I suggest you move to Venezuela. This is America, and we have no such duty.

We have absolutely no duty to stand by and watch our country sold out. As for the meme that the war was about revenge, no way you can prove it one way or another. The war was won and we should all hope that the Iraqis can preserve the peace. An enormous amount of people were released from tyranny and our military have done an outstanding job from start to finish.
I really like Tony’s cut to the chase question. “If you thought that the Obama administration’s policies sought to reform this country so that capitalism and individual liberty are not its foundation, would you want its efforts to fail?” The answer for me is an easy one, YES.

Did it ever Occur to you maybe it Was a revenge thing For Saddam with Bush because Of Daddy Bush Daddy Bush couldnt get him so son would! >>>> Sure and it occurred to me that it might aliens landed in Rosewell but that doesnt make it so. I dont think anyone goes to war lightly and I think you bought into all the hysteria about the war.
>>> But Bush pretended that he was going to give Saddam “one more chance”. Just another in a long, long string of lies. >>>>> I think you are correct here but I think he could have been lead in another direction. Powell could have done this. He could have not sold the UN with this presentation if he had the gonads for it.
SO since you think the congress would go to war for political reasons you trust them with your health care? God knows what they would do with that for political reasons..

Chicago Bob is right! It’s all about power and control. All the power and control in Washington is not the America I want. Join your local tea party!

Tony: …I also recognize that Limbaugh’s comments are being used as propaganda by the Left…Of course, there was hyperbole in it.
How about the other way around? – The Left is attacking the hyperbole that the Right is using as propaganda.
Tony: …I’m simply pointing out that it is wrong to conclude that opposing Obama’s policies is a bad thing.
But opposition can be done with reasonable disagreements and proposing alternatives. Claiming that Obama wants to destroy capitalism is simply red meat for the irrational.
I have qualms. I’ve said that I don’t like the price tag or borrowing to pay for it – but I don’t have an alternative.
I don’t like the provisions to regulate pay and bonuses. And I could go down the list and give my judgement on each and every project. But we don’t do it that way. We have a multi-party legislature and we either pass a bill or we don’t.
I found it funny that some were whining that most in Congress hadn’t even read the bill – they never do! Anyone who has taken a Civics for Poly-Sci class knows that aides read the bills for them.
Passing a bill is a messy, ugly process. But in general I support the effort to create jobs, build infrastructe, invest in education, provide more healthcare, change directions on energy and many of the individual projects – like hi-speed trains.
Now can we discuss our differences without pretending that only one side wants to save the country?

It’s completely irrelevant what Cantor says he “wants”… fact is, the so-called stimulus is a political LEMON… and Obama owns it now. Unfortunately for POTUS, he lost all political cover when no GOPers were willing to pretend it was a bipartisan bill and vote for it.
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Barack simply couldn’t deliver the type of temporary, targeted, and timely “stimulus” he repeatedly promised. Obama lacks the the political stature to control Pelosi and Reid… who hit the trough hard, while bickering like siblings.
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One could make the argument he knows his legacy will already be in tatters by 2010-2012.. and is ramming through as much of his far-left agenda as he can… sure seems like it.
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Bush purposely handcuffed government agencies to prevent them from touching republican supporters. FDA, EPA and SEC come to mind.

Steve posted “Sorry SamTyler1973. Not putting a bullet in my head for you. Sounds like my post hit you square between the eyes…If anyone dares to oppose his views the DEMS react with vicious remarks such as yours…” Dear Steve : Thank you for you little hate filled rant directed towards me. Thank you for those vicious remarks you made to me. I do not understand why you made these remarks to me because I HAVE NEVER REPLIED TO ONE OF YOUR MESSAGES!! That “bullet in the head” remark was posted by somebody else genius, not me. My post just happened to right above that remark.

Someone has to take control. Left to its own the economy is skidding off a cliff. Years of no oversight or regulation of the financial sector (you can lead a Bush to laws but you can’t make him enforce them) has left us with a house of cards. >>>> Lets think about this. You think the government lead you astray during the war effort and now you trust them to tell you the truth about the down turn? Do you think things are that bad? If you do why? Do you recall Cater? 12% unemployment?
Hyperinflation?
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Years of no oversight or regulation of the financial sector >>>>>> So you think this is all Bush again? You do have a congress you know. Its so easy to point you to be angry at this one man. Bush does not sit on one sub committee as President doesnt write any laws and you think its Bush? HOW? Why? The democrats have had control since 2006. Do they not have any responsibility? Is that not possible?

Preserve you have nothing to offer so I am not responding to you. Your points are without merit.

I was angry because even though they had a majority they were so afraid of losing the national election that they backed down every time the republican party fought back. >>>>> Jan you got to be kidding who fought reform of Fannie and Freddie all the way? WHO? Time and Time again they came in and fought reform? Who made Freddie and Fannie make bad loans? WHO? For you not to take some heat for bad decisions made by the democrats just points out how clouded your mind is.

It seems the Republicans continue to forget that they lost the election. We had 8 years of tax cuts with spending increases. That’s why we are in the mess we are currently in. The Republicans also continue to talk about how The “Free Market” is the way to success. Well as we have found out, The Free Market if left alone will allow greed to overtake sanity. The financial market was a free for all during republican rule. Now it’s time to regulate business and get them back on their feet.
Republicans, you can ask to be included in the planning of the future, but bring something other than your failed policies of the past.

The question is – how long before Cantor is kissing Rush’s kister? Reps have a bad habit of turning into wimps. They usually can’t take the heat from their wingnuts when they call that radio windbag a… well, windbag.
I’ll bet within a couple of days Cantor will be saying that his comments were “misinterpreted” and go crawling back to do penance.

I am so glad to finally learn that youth wing of the republican party which includes Eric cantor and Tim Pawlenty and Paul Ryan finally showed some nerves to stand up against Rush Limbaugh,Ann Coultier and reject their ideas that destroyed the party for a decade and will continue to erode new voters from republican party if some one doesnt step in and tell Rush to stay away from republican party.I was so disappointed with Mcains and Huckabee’s who is old but not have the spine to tell these folks to get the hell out of republican party and its future.New kids off the block like Palin and Jindal benefitted out of this guy Rush from nowhere and I think Conservative media and liberal medis both should come out and lash against gop messiahs like Rush,Jindal and others who is destroying the republican party now.Media should flash Rush and Ideas and debate this ideas with all of republican senators and democrats and Independents to give public an idea of how many of them are really smelling Rush philosophies.

I hope the next 4 yrs go by quickly! Obama, led by Pelosi and Reid are going to ruin America. I applaud Rush for stating that he wants Obama to fail….that will be the ONLY way that America will survive!

Most of the tax cuts for individuals in the stimulus package would be made permanent in Obama’s budget proposal. They would be offset by tax increases on businesses and on couples making more than $250,000. Single filers making more than $200,000 would also be hit with a tax increase.
At the other end of the spectrum, millions of Americans who don’t make enough money to pay federal income taxes would receive government payments at tax time through refundable tax credits.
A typical family of four making $50,000 a year would receive a payment of $40, according to the Deloitte analysis. Before the stimulus package was enacted, that same family would have owed $760 in federal income taxes.
A similar family making $35,000 a year would get a payment of $4,100, an increase of $1,200. The median household income was $50,233 in 2007, according to the Census Bureau.
The stimulus package provided most working couples with a new tax credit of up to $800 for 2009 and 2010 — single filers get up to $400. Obama’s budget proposal would make the credit permanent for families making less than $190,000 and individuals making less than $95,000.
An expanded $1,000 child tax credit would be made permanent, as would an expanded $2,500 tax credit for college expenses. Families making up to $160,000 a year would be eligible for the full college credit

Haven’t you heard? It’s a different government. >>> ROFL. Really How long Reid been in there? Franks Pelosi,Kenedy?
WHO is that new?
you are in denial and willing to overlook everything the democrats have done. OB-Wan222 I know when I am looking someone in complete denial. That maybe there are good republicans and maybe there are good democrats and maybe the democrats are trying to divide common sense to pass spending bills that are going to bankrupt us for no other reason than to have absolute power. And they have all the lemmings they need to follow them over the cliff because god knows if a democrat does it its GOOD if a republican does it it must be evil right?
Just checking what did you think of Bush when he spent a ton on Medicare to help seniors? OH and what do you think of the fact Obama is going to CUT Medicare? Are cuts in programs now no big deal since its democrats in control? Excuse everything because of the lies you are being told.

Everyone crying about the new tax rates and earning over $250,000 taxable income you may whin and cry, but look at some of the benefits for all Americans, including yourself. The rest of you shut the @$#* up. When you get there you will be allowed to moan and cry. Not to mention the help you are providing the country in this time of need. Bushy and his Wall Steet connections, along with the massive deregulations of the financial and industrial base with no oversite. Along with the spending, remember he hid the true cost of the war. It was kept off the budget. You lost by a large margin and the millions and milllions that are in opposition to your ideas and the millions and millions now inspired to vote will keep out of office for many years. Let us pray.

The rest of you shut the @$#* up. >>> at what cost? He just spent over 800 BILLION that will be well over trillion dollars with the Interest SHUT UP? He wants spend even more with the Budget he submitted SHUT UP? Thats being an irresponsible steward of this great nation. You want me to argue against tax cuts no way. BUT the deficit spending. Its INSANE.

along with the massive deregulations of the financial and industrial base with no oversite. >>>Who is the Chairman of the Federal Reserve ?? You want this guy in charge? You mention massive deregulation but there are still tons of regulations that were not enforced. And Franks BLOCKED looking into Fannie and Freddie so some of this red ink spills onto him and Dodd. BUT no democrat has the gonads to be honorable enough to do anything about that. No you must blame republicans ONLY. WELL SORRY the red ink is all over the democrats hands as well.

sarah sarah sarah wink cant wait smiles this loser we have now could get bozo to replace him he is worse than jimmy carter four more years of suffering and it will be over

To Persevere,
“If getting to keep $7,000 less on a $100,000 is so much of a disencentive to make more money than you should stay home and get out of the way.”
Yes, I think I will stay at home. I’ll also close down my business, sell the assets on E-Bay and let go my 10 employees. I’m rich so I can get by, but what about them? Well I suppose they’ll just find jobs elsewhere — Oh, wait! — they can’t!! It seems lots of “rich” folks are closing businesses or letting people go due to the poor economy. Go check the parking lots of small businesses these days — they’re sparse or totally empty and it’s going to get worse. About 70% of working Americans are employed by companies with fewer than 100 people and many of those are privately-held or family-owned. Most of these business are forced to operate on razor-thin margins due to the large amount work customers are sending to China.
By the way, you can’t give a person who doesn’t pay taxes a tax credit; you can give them a check but it’s not a tax credit. It’s called welfare. It’s simple socialistic redistribution of wealth by force.
You forgot to mention that all those filthy rich people will no longer be able to get deductions for charitable contributions. That totally screws major institutions dependent major donors. Hospitals, colleges, various charitable trusts and foundations. Yup, you can kiss all that money good-by. But that’s OK, because the government will take over anyway.
The tax plan you described is not sustainable. Actual tax RATES will go up big time and not just on incomes >$200k! The Govt. is running on fumes now. After 2010 (after the elections that is), the Bush tax cuts will expire and Congress will vote additional rate increases on top of that. Those in the $50K bracket will feel the pinch next. By 2011, we’ll see massive inflation as the Govt. is forced to monetize its debt — China and Japan stop buying our phony paper. Treasury is forced to buy their own junk with freshly-printed cash — hello double-digit inflation.
Every financial newsletter that I’ve read and even more talking-heads on various news channels are all in general agreement on this scenario. Many are saying things are even worse in Europe largely because they’re already burdened with bloated socialistic systems. We just haven’t caught up with them yet.

Big Jim – Can I borrrow your crystal ball. The strawhat argument works on the uninitiated to the tricks of debate, but your flimsy prognosis is made up of nothing but your readings of your own fears (it’s all conjecture). Your thesis ia a fallacy. Your participating in mind %*#@. Stop doing that to yourself. You could be under the influence of schizophrenia. That is you are detached from reality.

To Persevere (again),
You started this thread with a well-written and seemingly well thought-out message regarding the new tax plan. Of course it was logically flawed but well-stated never the less. For that I commend you.
But your last post has deteriorated into a bunch of rambling incoherent mush, for example:
“For you are the ugly, and sick part of the herd, you should be sheepherded onto rocky plains to cook up your stew of idesls to bedevil a new president. Out of the ear of the healthy.”
What exactly does that mean? Dude, do not attempt to smoke herb and write at the same time, it’s just not working for you.
It’s the snobbish and arrogant ramblings of a person who thinks they’re intellectually superior to the “herd”. Sadly, that’s how most liberals I’ve met seem to come off . Vacuous, self-centered, boring, well-dressed and generally educated way beyond their abilities.

Big Jim – I am registered non-partison. I don’t give a wit who “the people” elect for the general, then I get to vote. I vote on the merits, as I percieve them. But, reading over some of the postings, the re-creation, of our recent national history. The revisionism is shocking to the senses. Such whinig and crying I have never heard. It was a new day in 1986, when we had the TRA (The Tax Reform Act. It did away with all personel interest deductions; auto, department store, business, did away with the different elective forms for depreciation of business equipment and interest deduction for investment property, stright line only now. 28 years. They tried to do away with the 1031 tax free exchange, the tax is deferred now.
A masssive overhaul of the tax code, there was not this level of whining. Reagan tried to eliminate the interest deduction on your home. Thankfully he was stopped.

As I mentioned in a previous article, I (along with I think many others) are not wanting Obama to fail, but are instead waiting for him to fail. I see nothing in the spending bill that will restore the consumer confidence which is critical to an economic recover, nothing in a health care plan that is doing anything other warming over the failed philosphies of Medicare, Medicaid, and innumerable HMOs, and certainly no “change” from the standard Democratic playbook of furthering the welfare state. Granted that he has said he and his party would take full responsibility and blame should he fail, but after the iceberg that many see looming on the horizon hits and people are floundering in the water that will be cold comfort. If by some miracle he beats the odds and avoids sinking the ship he will definitely deserve the credit, although I think the Pelosi and Reid will be too busy fighting with him for control for that to happen.

To Big Jim – I’ve been in and out of the home office due to the normal distractions of family life. But, I’m back. But not for long. I’m glad I caught your last post.
The making of the “rust belt” started in the 1980′s, I remember our manufacturing industries closing shop and something called “Free Trade”, “NAFTA”, enacted during the Reagan and Bush one years (twelve years). Are you going to blame the Demo’s and their close friends the “Unions”? That doesn’t make sense to me.
I can remember American companies that had been around for 100 years packing it in, and whose policies were those that were suppose to protect American companies and workers from the ravages of “NAFTA”? Maybe we can take a wild guess.
I can see that you want to blame the Demo’s. Go right ahead, snarl at them, the union folk that, as I remember fought like hell to institute a national industial policy back in the 80,s and where turned away. It was “Morning Again In America”.
Both parties are quilty for not enacting policies to protect the small business concern. Which party held sway in those years? We are reaping the harvest laid into the soil so many years ago. That a energy, clean air and water act was putoff and putoff for future generation to deal with is whose fault?
I’ve lived long enough to be an eye witness to history, I don’t have to read about those years, I lived them. Rant all you like, but we live in the moment and there is a big mess to deal with that won’t go away.
The facts of history “those subborn little things that just won’t go away” Supreme Court Justice Learned Hand, can help us, so as not to be doomed to repeat history and forge a new America.
But not if we attempt to rewrite history for political motives.
It was Albert Einstien that said “it was the very definition of madness to keep trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome” I parapharse. Adios and good night.

Question, George is it considered ethical to hold meetings with Rahm Emmanuel to plot democratic strategies and then pretend you are an un-bias journalists? Your take on Cantor supposedly rejecting Rush Limbaugh is quite comical and a total distortion of both Rush and Cantor’s points. You might want to spend more time reading your own transcripts. Congratulations you just failed Journalism Ethics 101.

It’s sad that an obnoxious college dropout is now leading the failed Republican party. The Republicans have lost my respect and until they can select new leaders I will continue to support the Democrats.

Boy I have tried to read as much as I could of this rant, but to be frank I am puzzled why does anyone listen to Rush or any of these folks do you do it to be sure your thinking is OK and that you are not as nuts as your Dr says? Really he is a nut case and if you go along with him you just are shown to be like him. This goes for Ann Coultor also she is one of those girls my mom told me not to hang out with because she wouls get me in trouble. Any good teacher would advise you not to listen to people who never have a good thing to say , because they are not going to advance your station in life. REALY.

Seems that the Democrats and Independents are unable to listen to any other ideas than their own. And they are the ones who claim to be inclusive. With the outcry and interest shown about Carl Rove’s appearance, I bet he is included more often.

Q. What do Rush, Hannity, and Glen Beck have in common?
A. All uneducated college dropouts.
Throw Sarah Palin who took 6 years to get a 4 year degree and there you have it. The leaders of the Republican party are kooks, liars, and idiots.

I think George gave Cantor a run for his money. How can the Republicans successfully talk their way out of Bush and now Limbaugh and Coulter. The Repbulicans did have good statesmen go back in history. Limbaugh has taken them back to the days of McCarthy (and I don’t mean Charlie), and George Wallace. I would say Limbaugh is not only a right wing nut but is racist. Eric Cantor needs to read about Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt to learn about true heroes. We out here persevere again all the Republicans in our midst. I think the group that gave Limbaugh a podium were as duplicit in his rage as Limbaugh is. All that chest thumping looks like something in the zoo. We may be a one party system soon, Limbaugh has singlehandedly brought down the Republican party and Rupert Murdoch is trying hard to resurrect it but he is alienating people while he repeats it over and over and over and over and over and over again on Fox.

Say it, Pam!
Let’s add Karl Rove to the dropout list.
and let’s not forget to mention draft dodgers Bush and Cheney.
What a parade of cheap carnival hucksters, in the guise of “Patriots” –appealing only to the uneducated, uninformed and racist.
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What do Rush, Hannity, and Glen Beck have in common?
All uneducated college dropouts.
Throw Sarah Palin who took 6 years to get a 4 year degree and there you have it. The leaders of the Republican party are kooks, liars, and idiots.

Have Republicans learned NOTHING? After the last two elections, I guess we now know for sure that they couldn’t care less what the American people are saying. If worshipping Rush Limbaugh, a pill-popping elitist hate-monger, is how they want to spend their efforts, they need to be aware that the American people are still watching and are not seeing any change in the arrogant party. …unable to adapt to the changing environment, the red dinosaur struggled but finally became extinct…

C’mon Eric, time to sack up. You might as well say:
“I support Obama in his plans to keep the poor poor, make the rich poor, kill the youngest and oldest in our society, and consolidate all wealth in the hands of a priveleged few Democrats. I applaud his efforts to expand the Democrat power base under the guise of stimulus, and his pursuit of policies that left Japan in a Depression that it has yet to recover from. I look forward to Russian and Muslim expansion, reduced food production, and a decrease in individual liberty.”
I’ll be happy to go into further detail on any of the above points, all of which are sure results of Obama’s legislation, past, present and future.

WHY DONT YOU RUSH LIM SHUT YOU AND ADMIT THAT YOU RUSH YOU ARE AFRAID OF MR.PRESIDENT OBAMA GO TELL HIM YOURSELF WHY ARE YOU SO AFRIAD FACE YOUR FEAR WHEN YOU WHAT A PERSON TO KNOW YOU TELL HIM TO HIS FACE BUT YOU SCARY YOU NEED A CROWD TO RALLY WITH YOU HE WILL WHIP YOU TO THREADS WITH JUST WORDS YOU LIAR SCARY FAT PIG ( YES HE WILL) YOU CANT HANDLE TRUTH RUSH?THEY DIDNT NAME RUSH BECAUSE YOU RUSH AND HIDE!! STAY OFF TV IT DOESNT DO YOU A FAVOR YOU LOOK BETTER BEHIND THE MIC GO HIDE MR SCARY LOVE. SO SHUT YOUR MOUTH WE THE PEOPLE SAY SHUT UP NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rush is simply absurd-It amazes me we give this guy so much attention. He is so off balance. He truly reflect the GOP in many respects-off balance. I like how they feel Obama is over the edge in the stimulus-why wasn’t anything said when we went over the edge in getting involved in two wars that is costing us billions a month and young men and women are dying and for what freaken cause? Now that has put our country on a limb! THE AUDACITY OF THE GOP-SHAME ON YOU PEOPLE

What nitwit decided that the failure of a president = the failure of our country. It is “we the people” not “we the sheep who follow Obama” (or Bush either for that matter). Carter failed. Hoover failed. American moves on.
And whether you want him to fail or not is meaningless. Obama will fail as long as he is running the Stalin play book. America runs on Freedom – enough said.

I cannot believe Limbaugh’s remarks?? Bastardizing the Constitution???? Was he speaking about George Bush and Alfredo??? You know for about 40 years I was a registered Republican starting with Goldwater, I also remember the GOP going after Hubert H Humphrey on the Socialized Medicine — however about 4 years ago I became disgusted with everything Bush and the right-’wingnuts’ stood for and I am not even looking back.

Rush is such an idiot that he apparently doesn’t know that Rahm is playing him like a fiddle. Let’s keep Fatboy front and center. The only thing this moron is right on is his choice in color of attire, BLACK. It is slimming and doesn’t show the sweat pouring down from his fat jowls.

March 1, 2008. Worst roundtable ever. Katrina vanden Heuvel is incapable of putting objective thought into anything and uttering anything other than a stock Democratic answer. Karl Rove is simply a Republican hack. Stan Greenberg was earnest, but said nothing interesting. George Will was insighful as always, but less so. Please don’t bring back Rove or KVH.

Rush Limbaugh’s original speech was to last about 30-min., he was told to keep going. He did not use a teleprompter machine nor did he have any prepared notes or text. He did not know the speech would be broadcast live until his plane landed and he did not know CNN was their until after the event. He spoke extemporaneously in a clear and concise manner for the better part of two hours(?) interrupted with numerous applause breaks. He never lost his place or his stride, he stayed on-message the whole time.
The room was packed to capacity with overflow crowds outside; this was the largest CPAC gathering ever — and they all came to listen to Rush. FOX carried it live and you can bet millions tuned in.
Regardless of what any of you think of Limbaugh or his views, the man was THE number-one topic on most news outlets all throughout the day. In one speech he single handily broke the back of so-called Republic moderates and sent them packing. Michael Steele, Newt, McCain, Spector and all the other compromisers were brushed aside into historical oblivion.
Rush spoke, America listened and decided it didn’t like what their government was doing. The engines of wealth creation are coming to a halt and the market is responding. The DOW has dropped more since Election Day than after 9/11.
Rush’s speech was a John Gault moment, Ayn Rand would have been proud, she couldn’t have written it any better.

TYSPOCK,
What you don’t know is that Rush and Steele were on very cordial if not friendly terms not long ago. Rush had him on his show once or twice I believe.
Steele was impressive & I thought he was going to kick butt and fix the party. Rush also went to bat for Steele on several occasions. Hate? Hardly.
You’re
Rush Limbaugh was booked for a quick 30-min motivational speech in front of a few hundred members of CPAC then back on to the jet home. Nine thousand people showed up and Limbaugh stole the show, hell, he stole the entire party!
I know I’m wasting my time since you’re so convinced that Rush is a racist but can you handle the truth? Seriously, go to Rush’s site and read the entire story of what REALLY happened. Not sure if address below will show up correctly. If not just go to http://www.rushlimbaugh.com. Frankly I don’t think you have the guts — it’s easier to perpetuate a lie.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030209/content/01125111.guest.html

Big Jim: “Barack the Magic Negro…” sung to the tune of “Puff the Magic Dragon” was featured by Rush on his show. Yes, he’s a racist and a bigot. Fine, you still like him. That’s cool. That doesn’t make you a racist and a bigot. It does make you someone who supports a racist and a bigot.

It would be one thing if Limbaugh would offer any solutions, but he doesn’t. He simply keeps on talking tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts. Fred Thompson who replaced O’reiley on the radio factor last night said it about right. We had tax cuts under Reagan and more tax cuts under Bush. What happened? Those who got the tax cuts took the money and ran. Boy was he ever right. All that money they saved from the tax cuts has yet to trickle down. Looks like it trickled out of the country into off shore accounts.

Why is it that this bloated, bigoted, drug addicted, poor excuse for a human being has so much power over the Republican Party? Every time someone in the GOP makes a perfectly understandable comment about this idiot’s statements a couple of days later they humbly apologize to this bombastic bumbling bastard! If this jerk is the soul of the GOP, then the party is in a lot of trouble. If Republicans are serious about improving their party, the first thing they should do is to jettison this small minded dope!

I was working at a radio station back in the mid-80s to mid-90s when they Extreme Bloviated Idiots network.
The moniker “dittoheads” describes the lemmings who think the Big Fat Idiot walks on water and is better than God.
It’s too bad a movement backed a pill-popping, doctor-shopping loudmouth for the past 20+ years, and a cocaine-snorting, booze-swilling, moron for the past eight.

This question is to all the media drive bys that seem to be having a really hard time trying to figure out how to read and understand the authentic and entire transcript of what Rush Limbaugh meant when he said he hopes Obama fails.
George, are you so busy that you don’t take the time to do research before writing an article? Or is the spin deliberate and meant to confuse and give your readers incomplete information? Kinda scary.
It can’t be because you or the other drive by media persona can’t read or comprehend English now, is it?
If none of the above applies to you or the other drive bys but yet you still are having a really hard time trying to grasp what Rush was saying, let me help you all out.
Rush was saying that if Obama is pushing America towards turning into a socialist country and bigger government and eroding our freedoms as Americans, then he wants that plan to fail. See, the DISTINCTION that you and the other drive by media followers can’t seem to grasp yet is this is more about Obama failing and America’s values and principles from our Founding Fathers succeeding. Unless you believe Obama’s spendulus bill will protect Americans freedoms and freedom of choice and Americans and small businesses will become prosperous under his spendulus bill. If you do, then the onus is on you and the drive by media followers to show proof that it will. Because as it stands right now, even Wall Street doesn’t believe Obama’s spendulus bill is going to help America.

I thought the Republican motto’s was COUNTRY FIRST, it looks like politics first. Instead of the thinking about the American people and the economy they keep bowing down to this idioit Limbaugh. They want Obama policies to fail just to make a point. The Republicans are gutless.

So many misguided folks on here.
Rush’s personification of Conservatism was spot on.
Since 98% of you didn’t care to listen to his speech, your opinions are baseless and petty.
For the other 2%, thank you for at least trying to understand our side.
I want to further clarify something Rush said.
Republicans are not always Conservatives.
Conservatives are not always Republicans.
We are not asking that you follow a Republican.
We are asking that you look at the roots of Conservatism, and reflect them onto your own lives.
Many of you live conservative lives, no matter how you vote.
To me, Conservatism is:
1.) Keep what your own hard work has earned.
2.) Freely help those who need it, but reject all manner of governmental FORCE that DEMANDS you do it.
3.) What you do in your own home is your business.
4.) Never let the government do what the private sector can do better.
5.) Free market competition is the key to prosperity.
Many of you will read that list and be disgusted.
That’s fine. But soon you’ll realize that most of it describes your own life, and your own feelings.
How can this be?
Republicans are supposed to be greedy bigoted homophobes who exploit the poor!
Again…
Republicans are not always Conservatives.
Conservatives are not always Republicans.
More government control and more bureaucracy is not the answer. It isn’t even sustainable.
You have to break the shackles of dependency that have kept you down for so long.
Being told you need the government just to survive is a lie.
Within each and every one of you is the potential to do great things.
Release it!!!

Have you ever seen the movie, “Pleasnatville”? Everything is in black-and-white. As people gain enlightenment, they also gain color. The Right-wing conservatives remind me of the guy who is afraid of the changes and declares, “We’re safe for now, we’re in a bowling alley.” The Conservatives are in a bowling alley and are being left behind as the rest of the world evolves.

Tim, why don’t you Conservatives start your own party instead of sinking the Republican party? Is it because there are not enough of you to matter? You Conservatives are basically just Libertarians who infiltrated the Republican party.

To Justsaying9,
Just now saw your response regarding “Magic Negro” parody that Rush plays from time to time. I agree that Rush shouldn’t play the song without explaining the context to newer listeners, otherwise I can see where it would be offensive.
Frankly, its one of what I would consider many flaws in Rush’s overall broadcast format. Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, et al would never have aired something like that. You nailed me on that one.
The term “magic negro” was, in fact, originally used by Jesse Jackson in a speech given sometime during the Democratic primaries I think (can’t recall the specifics). Limbaugh picked up on it, played the sound bite numerous times, the parody came a few days after that. The singer (Paul Shanklin) was imitating Jackson’s voice. Limbaugh’s point was this: why didn’t someone call out Jackson for using such a blatantly racists remark? Valid point in my opinion, but only a few people actually heard Jackson make the comment as it never made the major news outlets.
So if you didn’t hear Jackson’s original remarks, the parody wouldn’t make any sense and it would certainly sound racist. Limbaugh should’ve let it go and scrapped the parody.
During the Clinton years, Rush ran numerous parodies about Bill & Hillary, Bill & Monica, you name it. Those were funny and made sense because everyone new about Monica — it was big news at the time — everyone understood the context.
And now as to your last comment:
“It does make you someone who supports a racist and a bigot.”
You have no concept of what a real racist is — I do. It might be of some interest to you to know that Rush’s top assistant, producer, and chief program call-screener is African-American. A racist would not allow such a thing.
I grew up with people who wouldn’t go into a restaurant or bar serving black people. It is a sickness of the soul and cuts both ways.
I can understand the lingering rage and hatred from those who suffered the pains and indignities of a segregated society, but today’s hip-hop generation couldn’t identify a picture of Martin Luther King let alone explain anything he did. What they don’t understand is they’re living in a segregated culture carefully crafted for them by the very people they worship — black elites and white liberals. So don’t label me a bigot because I choose to listen to Limbaugh, OK?
A black American sits in the White House tonight as President, not a servant. The journey is over. The festering wound left by slavery since the founding of this country has healed. No amount of political correctness, no apologies or compensation will right all the wrongs of history and bring back the dead.
Suffering and pain are not quantifiable; we cannot measure the suffering of one man and offset its affect by increasing the joy of another generations removed from the event.
You’ll get no white-guilt from me.

George Stephanopoulos Is living proof that a high IQ doesn’t equate to relating to the common man. He is just another gossip columnist with a big vocabulary. The hammer and sickle must be tattooed on his soul. He could be a bell hop for the Kremlin.

Mr. Cantor, I applaud you for your courage to stand up to this over-rated talk show host. He is popular with the fringe group…the ones who feel everyone owes them something. Maybe you should be the head of the RNC. Unfortunately, Mr. Steele has lost my respect and I feel should not be the head of the organization.

It took one former president to hurt the replublican party.If George W. bush would of done more positive things for the american people and have a better relation with the international community perhaps this party would have
a better reputation.
The trueth is,it took a bad economy with
an unpopular replublican president to
for the American people to loose cofidance in their leaders.

I believe that the Republican should avoid identification with Limbaugh. He is not particularly well reasoned. Limbaugh is primarily a self promoters and a supporter of the wealthy. He should not be a prominent speaker at Republican gatherings. If they need to feature a talk show host choose a more reasoned worker identified person such as Laura Ingraham.

Rush speaks his mind,but he doesn’t
speak for everyone.

When the Democrats impose some version of the Fairness Doctrine, I am going to file a complaint with the FCCevery time George uses public airwaves to advance their cause.

Hey, thanks George and Raum for the discussion regarding R. Limbaugh and whether he is the voice of the republican party. I never really listened to him before – he has a reputation for being bombastic. But I tuned him in this week on the radio, just to see what the fuss was all about, and, you know, I like what I heard. He doesn’t always say it in a tone I like, but I can get over that. I think he makes some great points, and is making me rethink my democrat loyalty. Thanks for introducing me to some common sense on the other side.

“You conservatives are just Libertarians who infiltrated the Republican Party.” That is about the dumbest thing ever written in one of these public blogs.
The Libertarian Party may be no more than a debating society of free market ideas, but the overwhelming majority of Libertarians have been a force against the Christian Fundamentalist Fascists who have, in fact, hijacked the GOP. Libertarians have defended individual liberty, in both economic and social spheres. This degenerate GOP is nothing like that.

Shianne:
You ought to try studying as little
history before you make foolish and
untrue statements.
Your Party, the Democrats, are the
Klan Party! Senator Robert C Byrd of
West Virginia, Former member of the
KKK is still a leader of your party!
Duh!
Members of Your Party, the Democrats,
were the Majority of southern racist
governors like George Wallace of
Alabam and Lestor Maddox of Georgia
who suppressed blacks in the 1960′s!
I guess yo didn’t know that the
1964 Civil Rights Act passed because of
Republican support as many Dems voted
against it!