Karl Rove’s Roundtable Fireworks

Mr.Rove has inflicted severe hardship on our country through dishonest and potentially illegal means. It is shameful this man is allowed to speak on national television.
An open and honest debate about the direction of our country is always welcome and is necessary. However, Mr. Roves actions have proven that he is not interested in, and in fact may be incapable of, honesty.

Please include Kartina Vander Heuval more frequently. It is great to have a real range of perspectrives in the conversation.

Mr Rove claimed executive privilege because he had an “official role” in the Gov. Siegelman prosecution and refused to do his duty and testify under subpeona to Congress many times.
It was a criminal case. Why does the chief political strategist have a role in a criminal prosecution unless it’s political?
Karl Rove should be accountable to the rule of law like an average citizen in this country, not exempt becuase he is a friend of George Bush.
As long as ABC puts unethical and deceptive manipulators on TV, it enables and is complicit with their malfeasance.

Big Government in back and we are going to be a bigger trouble

How many tax raises are in the budget. I heard a $1.50 gas tax is in the budget Obama wants. I guess we have to pay for this some how.

Jane, if you get your news from Lmnbaugh, please don’t repeat it here. It’s not reliable or accurate.

Neil – didn’t get it from limbaug, sorry. If you remember right Obama didn’t mind the $4+ gas.
Yes, the gas tax is gong up.

Good show George S. On the Sundies funnies and thies being 1997yr on WALL STREET. Isn’t this right before the year 1996; MR. G. AND THE REPUBLICANS TOOK OVER CONGRESS. IS THIS WHERE WE WANT TO BE??

katrina was very hostile toward Mr Rove which i found offensive. i did not see where an open and fair and honest debate with her was possible. carl is a humanbeing and deserves the right to put forth his ideas. i would not have her back as a guest if she treats others guest the way she treated rove. He may have been wrong but unless we hear both sides we cannot make an honest decission. The way she answered the question about the web site, i question her honesty as to her veiwing the site. I cannot see her spending much time on anything she already had decided was evil. Not many presedents had to deal with 2 wars, a couple of disasters,and other misc problems. i hope her reactions to rove and others are shown to her when obama is judged.

Please. No more Rove. I’ll take Gingrich any day. Not because I agree with everything he says, but because he seems genuine, intelligent and civil.

Kathleen – Frank and Dodd have inflicted hardships on our country. This is all about banking and the housing market.

In fairness, what are you characterizing as
“Karl Rove’s Roundtable Fireworks”?
Are fireworks great ideas, provocation, dishonest provocation, deception. What is it that you’re selling as fireworks?
Have Akmadinajad on. That would be fireworks too, no?
No, that would be bird of a feather flocking together.

Karl Rove and Akmadinajad… I’ll skip that week.

Why wasn’t this “Vanden heuvel”s fireworks?” She seemed angry, not Mr. Rove.

Rove is so supremely arrogant with his defense of the Bush years and how right the GOP ideas are, that he should be on television more often because everybody can smell the sewage that is coming out of his pipes. His lies are on steroids and it shows.

Rove is a lying weasel and I am disgusted that you give him a forum of any kind!!!
His vile invective is destructive in our national debate!
Quit giving him a place at your table! The man should be in prison. He is a liar, a criminal and quite possibly a traitor.

I thought it was a good discussion. I have been worried that the ABC News boat was heeling too far to one side, going the way of MSNBC and NBC. Just keep bringing forth the news and not your opinions!! Great Job “This Week”!

This was a great show today.
Karl Rove condemning the budget was a joke after what has gone on in the last four years. The Bush/Rove budget did not include the costs of the war, which makes one wonder what else was left out.

Rove should be in prison.
Republicans are the party of dirty politics from Nixon to Lee Atwater to George Bush Sr. and Karl Rove. With the exception of Lee Atwater (after his brain tumor diagnosis)they are no apologetic.
Obama as President is their karma.

As an accomplice to creating the mess we find ourselves in, Mr. Rove would not and could not honestly respond to Katrinia vandenHuevel’s excellent point that it is absurd for Rove and those of his ilk to sit in judgment of Obama’s plan to help us out of this mess. Please invite Katrina back to debate again – this time with someone who deserves to be there.

Do not bring Carl Rove back to this show again if you want us to continue watching. If I had an ounce of interest in what he has to say, I’d go to Fox News. It was a mistake to invite him…don’t do it again.

The four people that are on that roundtable can do nothing. If you want to vent or complain or try to get something done, Call your congressman or Senator, but don’t hold your breath!

Jane
You want to go back to when the mess started on Fannie and Freddie- use your resources to check on Reagan’s mistakes of Fannie and Freddie.
While you at it – check on his handling of FDA meat inspectors(cut the work force by 60 percent) and now we are surprised of salmonella outbreaks.

I agree with Kathleen. Shame on you for allowing Karl Rove to speak on the show.

Cindy do you think only liberals watch the show, shouldn’t you have both sides represented?

I bet if you don’t like who is on the show you can change the channel.

Fair tax or user tax would be great!

I don’t think I can ever watch the show again if Rove is on. Terrible. Are rating’s that bad?

Suz can we start with Raum Emanual? I live in Illinois

Why is big head Karl Rove, not locked in a cage????

Don’t give a partisan incompetent like Rove or his Fox cronies a legitimate stage on your show George. All he does is carp his talking points. His party sold us out for their benefit. All he can do is talk over any debate.

Don’t belive everything you hear on ABC, NBC, CBS or all the calbe stations. If you truly care what is going on, start doing your own research. You will be shocked on both sides.

Jane,
Last bit of news is Rove is under federal investigation and Raum is not.
I live in Il. and personally know Raum.

George,
I have watched you for many years, but I truly feel you made a HUGE mistake today having Karl Rove as part of your roundtable discussion. If you want to have continued viewership, don’t invite Rove back. He is a discredit to your open and honest discussion. I like to see both sides of the story, but Rove is not the appropriate messenger, especially after 8 years of George W. I am very disappointed.

Jane
your information is anedoctal and as my law professors used to say “quote your source”
Which means if you don’t have a credible source they your argument is invalid.

Funny, Rove does not come across as “The Monster” that the Liberals and the Bias Press made him out to be. All those years he was behind the scenes he was made out as such, but in real life it is much harder to make the Darth Vader label stick.
Also, he blew that ‘black haired bitch’ away!!!!

jane,
Great educated retort.

The deomcrats were pretty upset this morning on the show, they were uncomfortable. But, that is what makes good TV.

I was so surprised to see Karl Rove at the Roundtable. I thought he was already in jail!

“Fair tax or user tax would be great!”
Suz, next time the candidate yo vote for gets elected, please ask him to put these reforms on the agenda. We gave george years and I don;t think he even took a shot at implementing Fair tax or user tax. Something tells me it’ll be a while before you get your guy back in. until then, have fun complaining. (No one is buying your shtick.)

Karl Rove’s appearance today on “This Week” completed the degeneration of what once was a fine program into yet another me-too partisan food-fight.
I feared this result when ABC replaced David Brinkley, with his distinguished career as a journalist, by hiring an out-of-work partisan political staffer and spin doctor, even if he was from my own party.
I was eventually heartened when the weekly round table continued to offer a platform for non-combatants of all political stripes to comment on the follies and frauds of the practicing political professionals, and when George S started developing a decent set of interview skills.
Now, it seems ABC has decided to give up any pretense of being a news show, choosing instead to become yet another venue for ad hominem attacks and “big lie” partisan propaganda. Pairs of ideologues shouting insults past each other does nothing to inform the public or explicate critical national issues.
In particular, I was dismayed today by two things.
The first was what appeared to be a gross mismatching of the GOP A-team against a set of third-string subs for Dems. Where were equally articulate and reputable spokesmen the other side today (answer, they were on MTP)?
Second, where was George S as moderator of this discussion? Why does he allow either side to make assertions of fact that are blatantly and demonstrably false?
If today’s show represents a deliberate programming decision by ABC News, you have done a great disservice to ABC’s journalistic integrity and values. The Roger Ailes model of Faux News is not a path I’d like to see ABC follow.
In the meantime, I’d recommend Fareed Zakaria’s GPS as a replacement source of actual news and commentary, until ABC comes to its senses, or the team at MTP find a worthy replacement for Tim Russert.

I thought Karl Rove was in jail for outing a covert CIA agent, politicizing the department of justice, and dirty corruption dealing with Jackoff Abram. He’s out already?
It’s nice of ABC to rehabilitate his image and try to help hims become a respectable member of society after he faced justice and paid his debt to society.

Actually, it was Rove’s strategy to distroy John McCain during Bush’s first run for President. It was his idea to insinuate that McCain had fathered a black child. As for that “black haired bitch” Katrina ate his lunch. He suggested that she read the Republican proposal online and she shot back that she had. She then pointed out that Jindal, in his snoozer of a speech was standing there talking about Republican principals while his state ranks 46 out of 50 in highschool graduates. Cheer Elmer Fudd all you like but he’s as out of touch as his dumb ass party and that Da Truth!

I hated this! If I wanted to watch someone like Rove (with everyone just yelling at each other and talking over one another) I would just watch Fox.
If this signals any kind of change in the programing, I’ll just tune out and look else where for commentary.
There are plenty of intelligent conservatives and republicans around (see G Will), using talking head “red meat” Republicans like Rove is not what I tune in to see.

Looks like the Liberal Chattering Class is at it again.

jane
Wrong again Jane! For instance, Mark Sanford of South Carolina wins this prize. His states unemployment rate is 14.2%. That’s higher than California. This idiot is one of the clowns who is not interested in taking the unemployment extensions for his state.
By the way I’m still waiting for one of you to explain the economy’s numbers under Demacrats versus Republicans?

Our national economic disater was CREATED by BUSH AKA ROVE. Obama has been in office for only 1 MONTH. Rove should never have been allowed to speak by ABC about solutions to problems HE engineered. We don’t need fireworks we need an honest and productive DEBATE. I find the entire episode disgusting. George S. sat on his hands and was a shrinking violet when Rove wes bullying and bringing attention to his prowress at TV ads (4 refences!) and his forte at LYING, TRICKING and MANIPULATING the American people. Obama WON you fat bully. Go get in bed with your Doppleganger Rush. Shame on you ABC!!! You need to rethink advertising theatre which equals dollars. Did you get a new producer? Who is running the show? Decide if you want to be The Real Housewives of Orange County or just real. We already have a FOX! REPENT ABC!

If you did not see the exchange today between Katrina Vanden Huevel of the Nation and Mr. Greenberg against Karl Rove, I think it is a good reason to start watching This Week with Stephanopoulous every sunday morning.
What I don’t understand is how men like Rove can look us in the eye and keep selling the same failed policies of the past. Does he not get it? Times are changing.
I voted for Obama though I also am a strong subscriber to the Republican philosophy of smaller government, private enterprise, personal responsibility and hard work But we must mix some of these with ideas that also work and make sense.

George did a good job moderating the discussion. The key was individuals were able to ask questions and the responses though I didn’t agree with everything said were understandable. Given the group I was impressed with George’s efforts to moderate the discussion.

You’re right Neil, thank you. I should have stated paraphrasing.

The Republicans are busy using the internet to serf for porn. By the way, this stupid Tea Bag campaign by them is hilarious! I saw a you person holding a sign that read: “Lets Tea Bag the Dems before they Tea Bag us” Do they know what “Tea Bag” means? More inportantly, do any of you? I’d tell you if it was possible without being censored. Go ask somone or better yet, google it!

My husband and I were disappointed to see Karl Rove on this week. He is a criminal who put politics before country and now puts is own self interest before complying with subpoenas. Why would you put him on any panel on ABC??? Frankly, he could not hold a candle to Katrina vanden Heuvel. I like different viewpoints. I don’t like unscrupulous thugs.

Someone mentioned Katarina seeming hostile toward Rove. I saw what you mean, you forgot to mention that while she was trying to make a point, Rove was condescending, asking her to call him Karl several times as he interrupted her comment. That’s when he got “the look” from her. I felt it was quite an appropriate look that epitomizes how many Americans feel and it’s everything Karl Rove DESERVES.

She is just another liberal whiner.
No one is getting a tax cut. That is a fact. by the time the ink is dry on this package. The carbon emissions tax alone is ging to force gas prices up and eat any tax cut we would have received. Add to that the tax on small business and anyone making over 250,000
You honestly do not believe we will be paying higher prices? Let alone that they cannot claim their mortages or donations. I guess it doesn’t pay to be successful in this country. WAKE UP PEOPLE this is another homespun OBAMA FAIRYTALE

Political diversity among members of the round table facilitates discussion; but I would much prefer to see the discussion carried on without Karl Rove. There are any number of engaging, out-of-work conservatives who would love a chance to do a bit of sparring with your team. Please do find a legitimate replacement and send Rove packing.

I think having Rove on was a good idea. After all he is the PERFECT face of the party of hate. Sorry to some decent conservatives out there, I just couldn’t resist the rhyme.

I thought serious times called for a more serious discussion. I tune in to hear Will and Krugan types square off. Not partisan hacks like Rove and that Clinton staffer whose name I didn’t care to remember. If I wanted to watch ideologies shout talking points at each other I’d watch Mclaughlin or most others.
George S. you need to get a grip on the guest list, lest West Coast types like me spend the 1st hour on Sunday’s reading a good book.

Kurt, all PBS news shows are far superior to the networks and cable. The News Hour, Mclaughlin Group, Gwyn E.,Frontline, Bill Moyers etc. The networks are too beholding to certain corporations/backers. BTW, did anyone notice how skewed (against Obama) CBS was yesterday on the evening news. They presented half of the story with most of the arguments against the budget. Whereas ABC eve. news did a more detailed two sided presentation.

And you think PBS isn’t beholden to certain groups. Just watch the commercials at the start of the programs, and follow the governmental money trail (not just local contributors).

The most recent episode of THIS WEEK featuring Karl Rove as a member of the Roundtable is without a doubt one of the dumbest, least stimulating episodes I’ve ever seen. This is what happens when you have Mr. Right (Karl) vs. Ms. Left (Katrina). Instead of having open, honest debate, we get a bunch of lies and distortions about who inherited what recession and which party can rack up the biggest deficit.

“If Bush isn’t a true conservative, why would conservatives be so intent on backing him 7 yrs”
Because he (and McCain) was better than the Socialistic alternatives, although I am not an ‘Absolute Conservative’ myself.

George, My wife and I have watched your show for years… until today. Karl Rove disregarded lawful subpoenas from Congress to testify, but he gets an invitation from you to express his views to the nation. We looked at each other in dismay… and turned off your show. You sold yourself out for ratings, I guess.

I am so proud of Katrina for standing up to Rove.The Republicans had 4 years to screw this country up.They need to stand back and let the President try to put the pieces back together and save us.If the Republicans don’t want to be a part of the solution now they need to pack up and leave Washington.I never miss George’s show.Katrina made this the best one I’ve ever watched!

I cannot begin to tell you how disappointed I was to see Karl Rove on “this Week” this a.m. If this is what th program will be about inthe future I will no longer be a faithful listenenr. Rove belongs in jail. I am sure Charlie Gipsen would not have approved of haing such trash on ABC news. I hope there will not be a repeat of such vileness.

I believe in hearing from all sides, not just the Liberal Left.
So I will watch you more now, George.

Is it wonder that I have stopped watching ABC? Why not have Rove and Rush? So you want 30% of the population.

Karl Rove’s hubris and desperation to save face amidst the titanic body of evidence that demonstrates the failures of his time at the White House–oh, he didn’t run? Could’ve fooled me–renders him an unconstructive and poisonously-biased commentator on the efforts of our new administration.
Go back to Texas, Rove! And why is Libby paying for your treason???

Looks like the liberals just don’t like it when a ‘Strong Conservative’ talks back.
They are just SO used to getting their way on the major networks that they just can’t take it when someone else gets to speak (this also speaks to just how tolerant of others they really are, but I thought they were the world’s most tolerant class — some Myths are easily exposed).

It is so sweet Jane would defend Rove’s lack of diplomacy in a civilized give-and-take on the critical issues of today. I guess “that bald-headed guy” should be applauded for not letting that “dark headed woman” get her “two cents” in. You cannot make this stuff up! Hey, they only thing that separates Rove from Love is “L”. As in: What the “L” is going on with these zealots?

I get sick to my stomach everytime you put that Communist / socialist / Feminist / NAZI LESBIAN Katrina VAN on….. THERE IS something about her ….. Somebody take her out / off permanently…
Posted by: John Harrelson | Mar 1, 2009 4:56:11 PM
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You sound like the type that praised Bush as he and the republicans destroyed our great nation. Why no outrage then?

I agree with Doug. I’ve enjoyed your program for years, but I cringe every time Katrina vanden Heuvel is a guest. She is angry and venomous with her comments, and it disrupts the civil exchange of different perspectives and ideas on your show.
Posted by: Jim | Mar 1, 2009 5:07:03 PM
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She has every right to be angry at Rove after 8 years of enduring Bush the idiot he help put in the White House. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Especially when Rove like Bush accepts no responsibility for the mess they put this country in.

Katrina vanden Heuvel is a piece of trash and nobody with half a brain reads The Nation.

Karl Rove just gets half of the picture. He came up with his own accounting of how much George Bush racked up to wreck the economy. The other half he has not accounted for is the cost of fixing up the mess he helped to create. It now turns out that it is going to take a lot more to fix the problem than to create it. By screwing up so bad, George Bush and Karl Rove just gave President Obama a chance to fix the problem his way.
Mr. Rove, tough luck! That is just the way democracy works. You just have to spend time in the woodshed and lick your wounds. By the time they heal, we will all know by then whether President Obama succeeded or not. If he did not, it would only prove that your mess was just a smaller one. But it will definitely not put you on the right side of the ledger.

I thought all men were created equal?
Shouldn’t we then all pay equally?
Why punish the hardest workers to help the lazy? Do people still reap what they sow? In America everyone has the oportunity to do well;however, only they can choose this. This is where the problem lies. Too few choose the path to success. Now others must not only pay for their needs but also of those who chose not to bother.

I watch This Week so I can hear both sides of the situation. I love good debate, helps me to make up my own mind. I have never believed in censoring anyone just because I dont agree with them. Good show George. I hope Rove is on more often. I may not agree with him on everything but hes brilliant. If you shut down debate just because you dont like someones views doesnt that make you like the old soviet union? Free speech for everyone.

Why punish the hardest workers to help the lazy?
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What an asinine statement. Not all people are capabale of earning a good wage, we are not all created with the same capabilities, not all people who need help are lazy.
I hate your attitude.

Karl Rove at the round table? He should be in jail or at the least under a rock. Which discredited pol may we expect next? George W. Bush?

Katrina vanden Heuvel is a piece of trash and nobody with half a brain reads The Nation.
Posted by: Carrie | Mar 1, 2009 5:55:07 PM
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Karl Rove is a piece of trash and nobody with half a brain believe him or watch Fox.

Great show George!
She was soooooooo put off by “Mr. Rove”!
I loved it!
It was great to have the Anti-Christ in the room with the Obama-ites! Wow!
Great, just great!
Whatever side you’re on, it was just great theatre.
And for all of those who have an ax to grind with Karl Rove; stop your bitching and get over it! Grow up!

I am so disappointed!! Our family faithfully attends Sunday Church services and then we faithfully also look forward to your weekly show and especially the views expressed on the Round Table. I believe it was so disrespectful to have Karl Rove on that panel; he is not credible, ethical, moral, etc. What a terrible disservice to the Round Table. I do believe you owe the viewing public an apology for
giving this evil man an opportunity to
be representative of America’s beliefs and values.
Maryelln

Your selection of Mr. Rove as a spokesman for the Republicans was a mistake.
He brought to ABC the same characteristics he displays on Fox:
1. Not telling the truth He said the deficits under Bushes eight years totaled $2.9 trillion. Not true, the debt grew $4.9 trillion per the U.S. Treasury website. (Rove must have excluded Iraq and other supplemental appropriations.)
2. Tax Cuts Rove said Obama talked about cutting taxes for 95% of Americans and did not say he would raise taxes on the top 5%. False, Obama said again and again he would pay for the tax cuts by raising taxes on those earning $250,000 or more. How could Rove forget what had been repeated so often?
3. Drowning out others’ voices. When others tried to say something that Rove did not want your audience to hear, her tried to drown them out like O’Reilly and Hannity frequently do on FOX. ABC should have guests that allow all guests to be heard.
ABC can do better!

I agree. Can Rove. Instead let’s invite:
1. Robert Rubin, former Clinton Treasury Secretary, former Senior Advisor to Citigroup, now America’s largest publicly owned financial institution, who upon resignation stated :
“My great regret is that I and so many of us who have been involved in this industry for so long did not recognize the serious possibility of the extreme circumstances that the financial system faces today.”
2. Franklin Raines former Clinton head of OMB, found guilty of Accounting fraud while FNMA CEO for mistating earings by billions (so he could receive inflated bonuses)
3. Dan Mudd, former member of Obama’s election committee, also former FNMA CEO, who under his stewardship aggressively increased FNMA’s exposure to Subprime and Alt-A loans (and now we see where this has gotten us, taxpayers have now assumed and an additional $5T of GSE debt).
4. Angelo Mozilo, former Countrywide CEO, the largest private originator of MBS, whose largest customer was FNMA, democratic sweetheart, who provided kick-backs to Raines, Mudd, Dodd, and Franks.
Better yet, turn on MSNBC where we can all sing Kumbaya with Olbermann.
“Meet your new boss. Same as the old Boss.” Pete Townsend

Having Karl Rove appear with legitimate journalists smacks of the faux news farce of Hannity-Combs. If he doesn’t fit the description of sociopath I don’t know who does. No conscience and no remorse and he’s always right no matter what the facts actually are, spinning reality to suit his purpose. If you want to reduce your show to journalistic satirical comedy you could have him and Limbaugh on at the same time;and, if you ever have Rove on again or even think about legitimizing the likes of Limbaugh I’ll stop watching your program! Please don’t demean legitimate contributors by adding this sort of sideshow to what’s usually a thoughtful discussion.

Rove and Limbaugh have a choice.
Both should enter either enter Jenny Craig (to lose “pork”) or–
Go to jail–go directly to jail–etc.,etc.
Dann
P.S. ” Where are my shoes (or better yet) combat boots when I need them?”

The Roundtable is a valuable resource each Sunday, with thoughtful, intelligent dialogue from thinking people who may not always agree. Having Karl Rove on is just a waste of time. He has such a biased agenda, re-writes history, and is nasty besides. Please, not again!!

Big Trouble My A!!
This Country has been in “Big Trouble” long before President Obama.
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Thank The FED and President Woodrow Wilson’s….
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The More Dollars the FED Prints, the More they Devalue the Currency.
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Because [[Gold]] has Risen Greatly.
No Sir….
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There were More Republican Presidents in the Last 20 Or More Years
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President: 1 Term Carter, 2 Term Clinton & Obama
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Now their Followers are trying to Spread, Fear, Hate, Dread & Hopelessness…
Because it is the ONLY CARD they have left to PLAY
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Ron Paul is the ONLY Politician to Address [[Gold]] being the Standard for the U.S. Dollar, once more.

Mr. Rove was not an asset to today’s show. he continues to be arrogant and unyielding. He did a disservice to what otherwise is a good program. He does not need to be in public

So I guess Blagojevich will join the Round Table next week?

Jane – I don’t mind hearing debate from both sides of the aisle, conservative and liberal. I object to liars and criminals like Karl Rove and Rod Blagojevich getting media attention.

George, I understand that you want to get varying views but Karl Rove should be in jail for exposing a CIA agent not on TV esposing the destructive rhetoric we just voted out. You should get someone responsible that is actually trying to get us out of this mess not the propaganda of the conservative only for the rich republicans.

No more Rove as a guest. I find his vitriol offensive and he has no integrity.

ABCNEws and stephanopoulos should apologise in public for the action to have Carl Rove. The man who is responsible for all the failed policies in war and economy should have be out of the public life, prefer to see him in prison. Unless, abcnews issues an apology, i would not watch again this show and make sure nobody else does. It is OUTRAGEOUS!!

bill bennett, toxic tom delay, and now karl rove? George, can’t you find any republican without slime? I know that they do exist. So why do you continue to take the looowww road?

If I wanted to watch political cat fights, I’d watch Fox News. Why is This Week stooping to using political hacks for guests that do nothing but posture, spin, and spout newspeak? And I mean both Rove and Katrina vanden Heuvel.
I’m extremely disappointed. I’m sure David Brinkley is turning over in his grave. You can do better, George.
- A so-far-still loyal viewer…

As the chief political advisor to George W. Bush, Karl Rove personified the arrogant contempt for truthfulness and the utter disregard for accountability that plunged our country into the economic and diplomatic free-falls that are the legacy of the Bush presidency. How is it that a man of such titanic dishonor can leverage his resume of shame for a second career as a media commentator? And how is it that This Week would make itself complicit in this travesty by offering Rove a seat at the Roundtable? I was as incensed from my viewer’s chair as Katrina vanden Heuvel was from her seat across the table from this villain (“Call me Karl”, indeed!).

I watched part of the show, but Rove continually interupted and talked over others and George let him get away with it so I switched to Meet the Press only to have Joe Scarborough doing the same thing.
It was just astounding how Rove defended George Bush’s record on the economy. How did he come up with $2.6 or $2.8 trillion as the amount Bush added to the national debt? Bush insisted that the projected *surplus* of trillions of dollars had to be “returned” to the taxpayers by lowering taxes with the wealthiest getting the biggest breaks. Then he added over $5 tillion to the national debt and was still complaining that his tax cuts weren’t made permanent. His policies nearly caused a deflationary spiral while simultaneously causing a long term inflation problem – no small feat. Then Rove claims that Bush had it rough because he started out with all the problems of the dot com bubble which caused an extremely mild recession. The entire country would rejoice if we had the economy that George Bush inherited.
It is amazing that Rove actually believes the words the proudly come out of his mouth. If he had any sense of the destruction the Bush administrtion caused to the economy, he would avoid being seen in public much less on national TV.

What, ABC are your ratings too high? Need to bring them down a bit? I expect serious analysis on the round table, not partisan nonsense. I don’t want to see Rove, or any of Obama’s people either in this capacity. They can be guests if newsworthy, otherwise please keep to the professional journalists at your roundtable. Otherwise I cringe and turn off the tube.

Karl Rove AND Katrina vanden Heuvel? Good grief ABC… What were you thinking? Please re-assure your weekly viewers like myself that these were simply a pair of last minute replacements for civilized and higher-integrity representatives from their respective parties?
Otherwise, you may want to re-market your program as “Reality TV” and move it to prime time with the rest of the network garbage.

Kartina Vander Heuval is absolutely brilliant. PLEASE have her as a regular member of the panel as much as her schedule allows. She was able to penetrate the dishonest veiled Rove rhetoric. His style of fascist control is no challenge for her articulate interpretation of multiple subjects.
When she speaks, gone are the detached Rove references to the problems of our country that are faceless. She talks about the American families and their hardships during this historic economic downturn. We are people, we are not the problems.

I knew that there was a reason I left California after living there for over 50 years. If this country is so bad, why not move away?.
I get so tired of all of these liberal whack jobs criticizing everything they see when they have never had to make a payroll, relied on someone else with some ingenuity or moxie to make something happen and rely on the government to solve all of their problems.
Katrina is so far out of the mainstream it is scary. This is my first time on this blog and I was going to tell George that having Katrina on here was a waste of time. She is so disingenious but I guess I am outnumbered on this blog. Heck, out of over 200 posts there are at all of about 30 unique names, the same people who don’t know that Scooter Libby was the one convicted of a crime…oh yes….giving conflicting testimony when he didn’t have to since neither he nor Rove outed the CIA agent, it was Richard Armitage who didn’t have the guts to admit it.
What that represents about .001% of the viewers of this show.
Not that I don’t think that Bush did a great job with letting Wall Street run wild on unregulated lending or made the best decisions on going to war, but to call Rove a criminal yet look the other way when Turbo Tax Geitner tries to get away without paying taxes and Daschle makes $5,000,000 after leaving the Senate lobbying yet Obama says “oh I won’t nominate any lobbyists”, he is just as hypocritical as the rest.
If you don’t think that the lobbyists are making a killing trying to reach in for a piece of their killing in these trillions passing through the government’s hands, you are all hopeless.
The government has never run any business successfully and never will. All of you drones that want something for free and don’t have the imagination or the energy to make something of yourselves deserve what you get, a life where you are praying that the government will be there for the next check, or the next handout.
Look at the legislature of every state that is going broke. All democratically controlled. Even if South Carolina has a higher unemployment rate, the state is still solvent. More than can be said for the “smart states” like New York, New Jersey, California, Illinois, Florida.
Interesting that the only large red state, Texas, is not crying for a handout.
You might think that Katrina won some battle, even though she is light on the facts, but as obnoxious as you though Rove was, he was right on the numbers, Obama is looking to increase debt more in 20 months than Bush bumbled to increase it by in 8 years.
Let’s see what happens in 2 years when inflation is 12% per year and you can’t get healthcare because it is being rationed to you. I doubt if you will say you were wrong.

I have been a faithful viewer of “This Week” for several years. However, after watching Karl Rove for about 5-10 minutes, I couldn’t stand it any more and changed the channel to “Meet The Press.” With all the news of this past week, all Karl wanted to do was defend the Bush administration. He consistently talked over people and didn’t allow others an opportunity to discuss anything. I kept thinking it would get better, but it didn’t. If Karl Rove is on again, I don’t plan to watch a minute of it. I also wholeheartedly agree with the other posters that his appearance adds credibility to a man who certainly does not deserve it.

Oh my goodness! I haven’t seen a show like that in a long time – I just loved how Katrina hammered at Rove…it was so amazing. It is like she was reading my mind! She just nailed it.
I am a big fan of the show and followed George’s career since 1992 – and this show was the best! Please have Katrina on again soon – she put things so beautifully simple in such a muddy time.

Why?? Why would you have Karl Rove on your show? Give one (1) good reason.

So many people so indignant that George had Karl Rove on. What’s the big deal. Just another point of view. You can say you don’t agree with him but to threaten not to watch because he doesn’t serve your flavor of Kool-Aid? What a sad day. Thank goodness that you only represent about .001% of the viewers. I will bet that all of you are supporters of the fairness doctrine.
What will happen when they decide they want to pass it and Keith Olberman or anyone at NBC or MSNBC has to have an opposing viewpoint on the same show? Bet you didn’t think of that one, although its funny how you all refer to the Faux Network. If you were to ever watch it and see how misinformed you really are. Believe it or not, they regularly have opposing viewpoints on their shows even if the show is hosted with a predisposition towards one particular viewpoint.
Not only that when they quote “polls” they tell you which one it was and when it was taken. There is a big difference between the Media Matters poll and the Rasmussen Poll.
I like George’s show but he could have balanced the sides a little better. Sam and Cokey are a lot more mainstream than Katrina and Stan. But then again, Stan is an accomplished strategist…he helped Al Gore and John Kerry, two resounding winners. Helped Tony Blair also…..wasn’t he for the war in Iraq?

March 1, 2009
Mr. Stephanopoulus
ABC News
This Week Show
Something went very, very wrong on your show today and I really need an explanation.
I have watched your show since it started, have enjoyed your ability to present the most balanced view of this world one can find and I thank you for that. Today I learned that your show must have trouble selling advertising or that the shows integrity has fallen to that of Fox.
As this mornings show started and I saw Karl Rove was there I thought this should be an interesting view on things. Well, I stopped those thoughts as soon as spoke. Then I started to recall that this guy thinks he is above the law with “Executive Privilege” avoiding a Congressional subpoena. He helped manipulate, fabricate and propagandize information that hijacked our Constitution, held hostage anyone in Congress or the media that disagreed with him, helped pave the way to the deaths of thousands. He needs to answer for his involvement in past Administrations malicious acts and you put him on a stage that anoints him to be legitimate? Road apples.
Some one from your show needs to do some explaining here.
Post script: I’m not even a damn Democrat and I feel this way.

GOP = Destruction
Typical liberal, postulate a hypothesis and when questioned, ignore it and answer with some unrelated, irrelevant piece of information.
What about New York – Elliot Spitzer, AIG, Bernard Madoff; Illinois – Blagojevich, Ryan, Rostenkowski; New Jersey – McGreevey, Abramoff; Louisiana – William Jefferson; Mississippi – Bernie Ebbers, MCI; New Hampshire – Dennis Koslowski,Tyco…..on and on and on…..So what’s your point?
Posted by: WJY Texas | Mar 2, 2009 12:52:56 AM
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All of those together does not compare to the destruction cause by Bush, Rove and the republicans. They cut taxes for the wealthy who did not need it. They started war with Iraq giving no bid contracts to their cronies. The handcuffed federal agencies from do there jobs, thus endangering americans health and wealth. They politicized the Justice Dept by firing u.s. attorneys for political reasons. They prosecuted and jailed the democratic governor of Alabama. Bush looted the treasury to the point that we might not recover in this generation. But so how you still support Bush, Rove and republicans. Are you crazy or do you just play crazy on the internet?

George what were you thinking putting Karl Rove on your show?!! Do you really thing that someone who helped create the current dire state of the economy is a credible person to comment on it?!!! Shame on you for supplying a platform for him to attempt to remake himself as a respected senior political statesman! If you thought he would be an exciting controversial guest that I would want to listen to, you were wrong. I hope he won’t be invited back to participate in your round table again because I have no interest in wasting my time listening to him.

please have katrina Vanden Heuvel on more often–it was great to see someone knowledgeable stand up and shut up the old B.S.masters of the GOP who got us in this mess.
William San Diego,ca

Well,George. I hope it’s pretty clear about having Rove on your show. What was somebody thinking? Rove’s badgering technique reveals a psychotic man who knows he’s a loser, an emotional pigmy. His persistent psychobabble would wear down the horns on a billy goat. Please put him out to pasture. He had his chance to fix things.
David

To let Rove have this stage is a problem. To let Rove run wild with his commentary and allow him to use “Hannityesc” techniques and spew his venom by constant interruption is a disgrace. Couple your show with a similar display by Scarborough on “Meet the Press” and it tells us we REALLY need newspapers. OMG … SAVE THE WRITTEN WORD!

“A BILLION DOLLARS and HOUR for 200 years is that reality?”
No, Will was off by a factor of 1000. It would take about 73 days of spending a billion an hour to add up to 1.75 trillion dollars.

Ed, or you can spend a Million Dollars a day for 2000 years and not come up with a Trillion dollars

I’m sure I disagree with many of your comments.
But I have never seen such venom come from
someone on the roundtable as Katrina vanden Heuvel.
I’ve noticed that before with her and will not watch
it again with her on the panel. Everyone else had
more class than she.

Dear George,
Peter Orszag should get some schooling from the Treasury’s IRS branch when talking about charitible donations. Under current tax law, if Bill Gates donated $1,000 to charity, my guess is that $800 of it would be phased out and the $200 deduction would translate to a no more than $70 tax reduction.
As a 5%er, I’d welcome a $280 tax reduction on my $1,000 chariable donation. Much of my donations are not showing up on my tax return!

George & ABC
Please don’t tell me that you are considering Rove as a regular panel member! That “bleep” should be in jail (along with a few more that were in the White House) for all his illegal and immoral dirty works including manufacturing or at the very least supporting bad intelligence to sell the need for war. He and his “friends” are responsible for a lot of the mess we are now experiencing. The man is pure evil.

Please NO MORE ROVE!!!! I love you George, and the show, but find someone else for the roundtable from now on!

George,
why did you let Rove carry on like the playground bully? You disappeared as host and let him spout his twisted rhetoric and lies. At least give others the cahnce to speak their ideas without being interrupted and outshouted.

Rove is no different than Carville. We each have our “out there” representatives of our party.

Oh my gosh George!!
I have neer had so much fun with your show ever!! Katrina ripped it up! It was so fun to watch progressive rightousness with a command of the facts. Can’t go wrong when you have that. Stanley was pretty rippin’ too!
If I were your, whatever, agent or producer, and I would look like Fay Dunaway in Network. Lord have mercy, do you know what the country is hungry for? Having people come on television and tell it like it is. I don’t want the usual suspects, I want gladiator stuff like this!! I mean whoooshh..ROVE IS UNDER THE TABLE GLARING INTO KATRINA”S LOVELY RETURN GLARE.
This man is in contempt of CONGRESS. He is going to be perp walked someday; I can’t get enough of it. Look at this message board it is steaming.
Keep it up George and you could take Sunday away for ratings.
Nothing is more powerful than an idea that has found its time. The public is mad. We had an amazing election. Check out the rightous anger out there. It is not just from the right nor from the left. It is from the people. We are in two wars. Our fathers, brothers, sisters and mothers, sons and daughters are out there fighting and dying. Our jobs are in peril or gone. We have lost most of our savings in this economy. We need healthcare that doesn’t wipe us out. We have spent it all on Blackwater, Halliburton, and all the other companies that have walked away with our wealth. We have spent trillions and now we must spend more to dig us out. The budget hasn’t been a measurement of the true costs of this war and now we must hear the same old tired rhetoric again. I just want the far right to keep showing us their faces so we can keep a clear vision of where we are going. Which is away from them. They are dangerous. They feel their ideology is more important than people. More important than the country. Who claims patriotism and then wishes for the downfall of a nation? The Republicans, I guess.

Though it would be good to have another conservative voice besides will at the roundtable — Rove is not the person glad Katrina was on as well to put him down a notch, although I didn’t watch it all as usual — watched Peter Orsig and some roundtable, I just cannot get past the incompetance of the Bush administration and the fact that Karl was a big part of it. I am thankfully now a recovering Republican after 40 years and in Obama’s corner. Rush Limbaugh as the voice OMG deliver us all.

Rove looks striking like Rush limbaugh!Rove and Rush…a match made in HELL!

Katrina vanden Heuvel was toxic, shrill and completely unreasonable. She and her ilk are going to ruin this country…

ABC must be excited by the number emails in regards to Rove. I would guess most are not pleased to see Rove anywhere other than in jail. I love the show, and George’s attempt to be un-biased, but having Rove on is over the top. Like most Americans, I despise the Man.

I was very disappointed in ABC to see Karl Rove on last week’s show. I hope you can find more creditable and contemporary representatives of the conservative views.
Next time he’s on I will be off to Sports Center..

Katrina vanden Heuvel was fabulous!! I loved the way she answered KR’s vitriolic nonsense.
She’s a keeper!!

If I ignored a subpoena I would be in jail. Having Karl Rove on your program offers legitimacy to his right to disobey the law.
This is insulting to those of us who live by and respect the laws of our country.

“lose me as a veiwer”
“i’ll be an ex-veiwer”
“shame on you”
“bad TV”
listen people, nobody gives a rat’s ass about you or your political views; so shut up about Karl Rove already, GET OVER IT! The reason the economy is in this state is because of bad loans, people who won’t pay their bills, and the community reinvestment act that forced banks to make loans to people who couldn’t afford them! It was an affirmative action loan program and it FAILED! It was put in place by Democracts! People like Congresswoman Maxine Waters! She sure makes me feel like we’re in good hands! Right!
Democracts will be out in 2010! Thank God! And tell Katrina to stop the botox and hair dye! She’s starting to look like Joan Rivers!

George,
Giving Karl Rove a platform so soon after the end of the Bush admin. was a huge mistake. The visceral feelings of so many disappointments are still so fresh, and Rove represents them just as much as Cheney and Bush do. I’ll have to take some time off of This Week – as much as I love it.
See you in a few weeks.

George, When your competition is Meet the Press and Fareed Zakaria GPS, you really must demand civil discourse on you show. Your competition is not Crossfire and I believe you will dilute the value of your program if anger and uncivil behavior is not curtailed.

It has been a long time since I heard as much naive waffle as Katrina & Greenberg expounded, if they are representative of the best Democratic brains then Bye Bye USA, you just wont survive 4 or 8 years of that sort of sophomore naievty.

Wow! I love when liberals act like facists. “don’t have Rove on anymore or I wont watch”. “Rove is a fat buterball lier”. For a rare instance one of the alphabet news agencies has someone on that comes at these stuff shirt liberals like Vander Heuvel with facts and the liberals squeal like stuck pigs. But when the facts started getting in the way Greenberg would meet it with intelligence like “the people have spoke, the people have spoke”. If you go back and watch the tape the little weasel was on the edge of his seat with his mouth open trying to utter something. I was laughing my ass off. Now let me say that the spending that’s been done under Bush is a travesty and I will never forgive him for ruining the name of conservitism.

Georgie, Georgie – What would your mother say to you about having Karl Rove, the Bush “Snake Oil Saleman,” on your normally informative show? The obfuscator (Rove) revised history – and, he did it right on your show. Poor George Will didn’t even know what to say to this terrorist.
You gotta have someone on who has the guts to cut the “My Way or the Highway” guy (Rove)off at the knees. Too bad you didn’t have the cops waiting to arrest him.

Looks like the liberals just don’t like it when a ‘Strong Conservative’ talks back.
They are just SO used to getting their way on the major networks that they just can’t take it when someone else gets to speak (this also speaks to just how tolerant of others they really are, but I thought they were the world’s most tolerant class — some Myths are easily exposed).
Looks like some of the liberals here are trying to Intimidate ABC into only having guests they approve of .
Are they used to getting away with such ??!!!!!!!!!!!

jeff m,
Very Good, some ‘Exceptional’ points.

I look forward to your show and especially the round table, but I hope to never see Karl Rove there again. That man should be in prison, not on the round table.

I was so discouraged and disappointed to see Karl Rove on your show. In our household he is just a a war criminal not an alternative or controversial perspective. He has had his time and we are all paying the price. Why give him more time now? Thank goodness for Katrina Vanden Heuvel—someone who has the guts to stare evil in the face and the smarts to take him on. Even with Katrina, we doubt we will continue to watch if Rove comes back. Why not find a fresh face and new voice, and not someone who scares and sickens us?

I was more than shocked to see Karl Rove at the roundtable. I never miss the Sunday morning news shows and will rethink ABC for weeks if not months to come. I expect credible, honest debate on Sunday mornings. I do not need my views supported or represented. I do however feel that credibility and honesty are lacking where Karl Rove is concerned and for 8 long years, his voice has been heard loud and clear….ie….Sunday was proof that if you keep telling lies long enough, even more lies will become truth.
Karl Rove has had his time in the spot light and this country has suffered greatly as a result!!! This is way more than adding insult to injury!!! It’s just plain wrong.

will you people listen to yourselves!
His policies destroyed the environment? What exactly did he destroy? The economy? Which bank did he run into the ground? Citibank? Clinton’s former US Treasurer was on the board of directors as the ship was burning and going down! Tremendous lose of life. Freddie and Fannie Mae? Both guys running were Democrats. Ask Barnie Frank how well these institutions were doing last year…Get over yourselves! And I hope you people stop watching This Week; it doesn’t need a bunch of narrow minded, neo-socialist, leftie-loonies anyway.

I’ve been a fan of the show a long time and while it might just be reality, it seems unfortunate that ABC considers the program “entertainment.” Even for ABC, having this scumbag Carl Rove on the air was a new low; especially for a respectable program as This Week. Was Charles Manson unavailable? There have to be other compelling experts whose opinions matter. The nation is trying to heal from the last administration, I think it’s a bit early to be picking scabs. Rove personifies the shameless, careless audacity he helped formulate and it’s disgraceful to see him banter in the company of thoughtful and thought-provoking panelists. I wouldn’t want to see him express (or defend) himself ever again on this program unless it was prior to his on-air lynching.

Looks like we have yet another open minded liberal in Steve. I love when their hatred trumps their ideology. What a joke!

Dems like Taxes, except when they have to pay them.
Several of them should be in Prison,………….and certainly not in a government position.
However, several of them have been on news shows and a couple are in Obum’s cabinet.

When someone describes themselves as “Da Truth” it is fairly evident that the truth is not what the individual is interested in. You accuse the democrats as exploiting a crisis to impose their agenda and of playing politics. One would ask what did the Republicans do following 9/11. There was an opportunity to unite the nation and the world behind American interests that was squandered by Cheney and Rove since they had an agenda of deceiving us into a war and passing tax cuts primarily for wealthiest few. Yet you suggest several Democrats should go to prison. What universe do you reside in?

Is Rove going to be on the roundtable now? If he is I’m not watching any more.

George, If you want to see your ratings tank, invite this fat #$@% on your show again.

If you must have Karl Rove at the round table, please ALWAYS have Kartina Vander Heuval there too. She was FABULOUS!!!! Her comments to him were what we all have been thinking for the duration of the Bush administration.

http://scottthong.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/revjerwright341.jpg
Absolutely hilarious cartoon of Obama in diplomacy talks with Iranian Prez

DEAR GEORGE,
MY NAME IS PATRICIA, I’M AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, WHO IS AFFENDED BY THE LEVEL OF DISRESPECT THAT REPUBLICANS HAS SHOWN OUR PRESIDENT, AND I WANT TO KNOW WHY DOESN’T RUSH THE FAT A*** LIMBAUGH DOESN’T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE.
WHY IS HE, IN THIS DAY AND AGE A RACIST. I KNOW HIS RACIST GRANDMOTHER MUST BE PROUD.
THE WAY HE’S DISRESPECTING OUR PRESIDENT IS DISGUSTING. THIS MAKES ME SO SICK, AND i would like to know when are the black leaders going to do something about this. SOME OF US IN BLACK COMMUNITY IS GEARING UP TO TRY AND TAKE THIS RACIST DOWN.
WE DO NOT LIKE WHAT HE’S SAYING AND HAVE SAID ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT.
JUST WAIT AND SEE. RUSH LIMBAUGH IS NOT GOING TO KNOW WHAT HIT HIM.
THE MAN IS TALKING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA’S DEAD MOTHER HOW DISGUSTING IS THAT? HE’S ALSO MADE REFFRENCE TO PRESIDENT OBAMA AS, BARACK THE MAGIC NEGRO.
SO WHEN YOU GUYS LAUGH AT THIS FOOL JUST REMEBER, THERE ARE MANY OF US FROM THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WHO DOESN’T THINK THIS MESS IS FUNNY.
PEACE OUT