Mar 15, 2009 12:59pm

Key Obama Economic Adviser: Fundamentals of the Economy Are Sound

The Chair of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, Dr. Christina Romer, on Sunday said that the fundamentals of the economy are "sound," a comment similar to one that her boss as a candidate repeatedly attacked Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., for making during the heat of last year’s presidential campaign.

"Of course, the fundamentals are sound," Romer said on Meet the Press, "in the sense that the American workers are sound. We have a good capital stock, we have good technology. We know that, temporarily, we’re in a mess, right? We have seen huge job loss, we’ve seen very large falls in GDP. Certainly in the short run, we’re in a bad situation."

On September 15, McCain said, "As you know, there’s been tremendous turmoil in our financial markets and Wall Street, and it is — it’s –people are frightened by these events. Our economy, I think, still the fundamentals of our economy are strong. But these are very, very difficult times. And I promise you, we will never put America in this position again. We will clean up Wall Street. We will reform government."

That morning, more bad Wall Street news was hitting — with a focus on Merrill Lynch and Lehman Brothers — and McCain’s remarks provided an easy opportunity to paint the Republican as out of touch.

"We just woke up to news of financial disaster, and this morning he said that the fundamentals of the economy are still strong," Obama said on September 15 in Grand Junction, Colo. "Sen. McCain – what economy are you talking about? "What’s more fundamental than the ability to find a job that pays the bills and can raise a family? What’s more fundamental than knowing that your life savings is secure, and that you can retire with dignity? What’s more fundamental than knowing that you’ll have a roof over your head at the end of the day?"

McCain later tried to explain that he meant by way of defining "the fundamentals of the economy" as "the American worker and their innovation, their entrepreneurship, the small business, those are the fundamentals of America, and I think they’re strong."

But many on the Obama campaign believe this remark by McCain — and the way candidate Obama used it to portray McCain as out of touch on the economy — was a crucial moment in their eventual victory.

Flash-forward to Friday, when President Obama — amidst some economic cheerleading from the administration — said that "if you’ve been laid off your job, if you’ve lost your home, then, you know, right now is very tough. But we’re providing help along the way. That’s why we put a housing program in place; that’s why we’re going to be announcing additional steps to help small businesses."

But, Mr. Obama said, "if we are keeping focused on all the fundamentally sound aspects of our economy, all the outstanding companies, workers, all the innovation and dynamism in this economy, then we’re going to get through this. And I’m very confident about that."

Republican aides twisted this to suggest that the president had declared the fundamentals of the economy to be sound, which he had not.

This morning NBC’s David Gregory asked Romer about the quote, saying that what Obama said sounded "similar" to what he’d hammered McCain for saying.

Romer said that "when the President says he’s focusing on fundamentals, what he means is, is we’re focusing on fixing the fundamentals. We’ve always said we’re not looking at the ups and downs of the stock market. We’re looking for those crucial indicators: when are jobs turning around, when are sales turning around, when do we see consumers coming to life. That’s the kind of thing that certainly I’m looking at in terms of when’s the economy going to be doing better."

What’s the difference between what McCain said in 2008 and what President Obama said Friday?

Romer said that "where we are today is obviously not good. We have a plan in place to get to a good place. I think that’s the crucial — a fundamentally crucial difference, is to make sure that you have put in place all of the comprehensive the programs that will get us back to the fundamentals." Additionally, she said, "the president said in terms of fundamentals, we need to make changes. That’s why he’s focusing on energy and education, getting the budget deficit under control… He said, when we get through this thing, we want to be in a better place."

Perhaps McCain was right back then?

"I really think you’re misinterpreting the president," Romer said. "They key thing the president was saying is we have our eyes on the fundamentals."

– jpt

User Comments

Isn’t this the same thing that John McCain said three months ago? This statement is every bit as nutty as McCain’s false pronouncement. Where is ABC on pointing out this hypocracy?
Jake, didn’t you promise that you would take both Republicans and Democrats to task if they issued “mixed messages”? Isn’t that the rationale that you used to attack Sarah Palin just yesterday? Come on Jake, where is your commitment to your word? Shouldn’t this “mixed message” be exposed for the blatant lie that it is? Where is that balance that you promised when you were attacking Governor Palin?

Posted by: Kim | March 15, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

I’m glad that we’ve found the time to concentrate on word games. How ’bout some reporting to investigate the actual question…Are the fundementals of our economy sound?
It’s worth noting as well that the purpose of the words differed greatly in context. McCain was trying to eassure everyone that there there was nothing wrong with Bush’s approach for the last 8 years.
Obama is trying to prevent further erosion of confidence.

Posted by: Paul Dirks | March 15, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

More Obama spin. This guy is clearly out of his league. First, he talks the economy down to try to push his left wing agenda. Then, after he realizes that he has overdone it and the markets are resonding to his negative tone, he trots Clinton administration hacks out to undue the damage he caused.
Obama is a remake of the 70′s TV show: “Welcome back Carter”

Posted by: James | March 15, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

This reminds me of the old joke: A manager was interviewing an applicant for a job that clearly was not qualified. Still, the applicant asked for a very high salary. The manager asked the applicant how he could justify asking for such a salary when he did not have the required skills. The applicant replied by saying that he should get paid more because he didn’t have the skills and would have to work harder than someone who already had them because he would have to learn them while he did the work.
Obama is no different than that applicant. He expects his incompetence to be overlooked just because he is new at the president thing. His leadership should be viewed every bit as arrogant and stupid.

Posted by: Henry | March 15, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Fundamentals is just anther word to someone who lost their job. Sure John McCain said it in one of his 7 houses and no one believed him.
Bill Clinton: Obama Should Sound More Optimistic on Economy.
Well Obama is being more Optimistic. I bet it reassured China who have a trillion dollars invested in US treasury notes.
What brothers me are the Republicans in the congress and senate acting like this election never happened and continuing to oppose anything Obama does. Majority of Americans what these Republicans to work with Obama as recent polls show but the Republican politicians are not listening.
Perhaps the voters need for the next two elections vote in a Democrat Senate majority in 2010 and 2012 in order for this distressful economic mess to be taken care of. A Democrat Senate and Congress in the next two elections can clean up 8 years of Bush/Cheney mistakes.

Posted by: Winston | March 15, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm

Obama has no shame. He really thinks the American people are so stupid that they will believe anything.
Obama is telling us that the pain we are enduring with this economy is not real. He sits in the lap of wealth and privilege and openly mocks those of us who have to deal with the results of his failed policies. Mr. President, the American people are hurting. We need more than meaningless and false words. We need policies that will actually help our economy recover.
How can the president be so insensitive to the suffering in our country?

Posted by: Jennifer | March 15, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Dear President Obama,
Thank you for helping my neighbors with
their mortgage payments.
You know the one’s down the street who in the good times refinanced their house several times and bought SUVs, ATVs, RVs, a pool, a big screen, two Wave Runners and a Harley.
But I was wondering, since I am paying my mortgage and theirs, could you arrange for me to borrow the Harley now and then?
P.S. They also need help with their credit cards, when do you want me to start making those payments?
P.P.S.
I almost forgot – they didn’t file their income tax return this year. Should I go ahead and file for them or will you be appointing them to cabinet
posts?
I guess since the fundamentals are so strong and you are working on all of this we will no longer need to use my tax money for all of these things/does that mean that you are not really going to tax my health care payments either?
I am getting a bit broke paying all of these things especially if the economy or the fundamentals are sound/I mean who will bail me out if you take all of my taxes
Signed
A Middle Class Worker

Posted by: Karla1953 | March 15, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

Concerned in OH:
Can you give me a comparative list of reasons why Obama is already the worst president ever? Here’s my list of a few Presidents that are far worse and some basic reasons why.
Grant: very corrupt administration, economic collapse in 19th C.
Harding: widely viewed as most corrupt administration in history; Tea Pot Dome Scandal
Hoover: econ policies and lack of market regulation leads to Great Depression.
Nixon: Watergate, illegal bombing/invasion of Cambodia, COINTELPRO illegal spying on US citizens, expansion of Vietnam war, nearly impeached
Bush: war in Iraq, global economic meltdown, torture

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Middle Class Worker,
Would you prefer that your neighbor default and be evicted? Thats ok if you are. But – do you realize that this will drag down your home value significantly?
If this happens in the aggregate (be it in a particular community or the nation as a whole), a massive number of defaults will cause all of our home values to drop even worse.
These are the facts. Doesn’t excuse the idiots who made such bad credit decisions, but it explains why we are forced to help bail some of them out.
Do you have another solution? Serious question.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

John McCain was for deregulation of Wall Street since the 1980s. Look at the mess we are in now. We already know John’s solution to the banking problem – let them fail. Sounds like doing nothing to me. When McCain spoke about Fundamentals of the Economy no one believed him.
Jake maybe you should be taken off the White House beat. Just do your political punch and Think about the Fundamentals of reporting.

Posted by: Mark | March 15, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Winston, I would not mention polls when it comes to Obama. Gallup released a poll recently that showed that nearly 80% of the American people are concerned with the spending plan Obama has put forth. Similar percentages also questioned the stimulus package, the bank bailout plan, the Obama healthcare plan, and the Obama plan to force unions on American employers through Card Check.
The polls do not support this presidents plans or policies.

Posted by: James | March 15, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Uh! oh…reallly,…What gives?
They ridiculed McCain and made a clown out of Bush for suggestion the same just 4 months ago.
Oh! I wish we, the people, could have an election this month and get every one of the politicians out of White House, Congress and Senate. All of them Republican and Democrats.
OBAMA AND HIS TEAM IS A “JOKE WE HAVE BEEN NOT WAITING FOR”

Posted by: FRIEDA | March 15, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Oh, and to all:
Snarky comments about Obama doesn’t really help fix things. It would be nice to hear alternative suggestions as to what could be done.
At least if someone says “We should cut taxes” its an idea. Its a stupid idea if you have even the faintest clue about macroeconomics, but at least its a good faith idea.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

Frieda,
What policies do you think McCain would put in place instead? Do you have any other suggestions?
If not McCain, who would you vote in? What different ideas do they have to fix the economic crisis?
Or are you just complaining for the sake of complaining without having anything constructive to add?

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

I would like to suggest a new motto for the Obama administration. The “Yes we can” one obviously no longer fits. So, here it goes: “Hypocrites R US”.
I think it is accurate, timely, and conveys just how absolutely dangerous the incompetence of this administration is to our future.

Posted by: Alicia | March 15, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Its also hilarious that the same people who gave Bush 8 years to screw things up, called people traitors for ever criticizing him, and were perfectly fine with the trillions of dollars in debt racked up by the Bush Admin, are suddenly 2 MONTHS into Obama’s administration calling him a complete failure, for him to resign, or be impeached.
By all means, criticize the administration – we need it for a strong democracy. But don’t be such obvious hypocrites and say such outlandish and foolish things.
Oh, and if you say something about his birth certificate, you and the Bush conspiracy theorists should go become friends.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

WOW, and just think BUSH came to the SAME conclusion!!! More “chump” Change from Obama!!!

Posted by: hmn... | March 15, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Alicia,
OK, he’s dangerous and incompetent. What has he done so far thats dangerous? What was incompetent (and spare me if its “they didn’t pay their taxes)?
Who would be less dangerous and more competent? What are the more competent solutions?

Posted by: anon | March 15, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

Anon, how about this for a plan? How about we don’t increase government spending by 3.5 trillion dollars when we cannot pay for what we have now? How about the government not borrowing 800 billion dollars for a so called stimulus plan at a time when there is credit crunch and businesses cannot get the loans they need to expand? How about cutting government expenditure and using that money for funding targeted stimulus? How about not raising taxes on businesses from the current 35% to 42% as Obama is proposing in his 2009 budget? How about not saddling businesses with new expenses for environmental regulation, healthcare,energy taxes, and union organization, all of which Obama is pushing in this very difficult business environment?
Bad policies can make this recession into a depression and Obama seems to be determined to do just that. He openly states that he wants to “take advantage” of this downturn to press for his left wing agenda. One has to wonder if he is not purposefully pursuing these policies to further his political goals at the expense of our economic health.

Posted by: Alicia | March 15, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Well anon my home value at this point is dropping faster than the presidnet’s poll numbers/yes my original thought months ago was to pass a smaller stimulus pkg that focused only on job creation to assist some of the folks who were in default due to job loss/something that would put folks to work right away not in late late 2009 or 2010/I would think those folks were quite savvy and would be able to work if opportunity knocked/as far as over reachers even with a bail out I have slim hope that they will be able to mintain the payments and the house will default at some point anyway/I believe that the CRA is somthing that should never should have been put in place/I rented for many years until I could save the down payment for my home and never felt I had to have it as part of the American Dream
On the other side of the coin I do not recall running for office under the guise that I could correct these problems so i am not sure why I would have to come up with an alternative/

Posted by: Karla1953 | March 15, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Jennifer:
Obama was counting on the stupidity of majority of Americans.
That’s how he keeps getting his radical ideas passed and still remains popular.
And that’s how he got elected–stupidity.

Posted by: tyler | March 15, 2009, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

A majority of people surveyed in both parties said Mr. Obama was striving to work in a bipartisan way, but most faulted Republicans for their response to the president, saying the party had objected to the $787 billion economic stimulus plan for political reasons.
This poll is telling as we can see that the Republicans in the Senate and Congress are already running for the next two elections and believe that can spin their way back into power by saying no to Obama right into 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: Ruth | March 15, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

The irony is that while the economy may be sound, it has never been this unsound. I do not believe in this soundness.

Posted by: Huh | March 15, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Alicia,
Thank you for responding. I respect your critique – I simply disagree that your suggestions are any better (and personally think they are worse).
Can we at least agree that he is working in good faith to fix the economy as he thinks he best can? I would concede that about President Bush vis-a-vis his tax cuts for the wealthy – I just think they were a very poor decision.
Also – do you think we should not increase any of the regulations in the financial sector, where the complete lack of oversight (under both Clinton and Bush) helped allow this crisis to happen in the first place?

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

==Obama…really thinks the American people are so stupid that they will believe anything.==
Well, what do YOU think happened on November 4, last year? Stupid people voted for him.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | March 15, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

==Can we at least agree that he is working in good faith to fix the economy as he thinks he best can?==
Sure, we can. He thinks that Socialism is the best fix. It isn’t.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | March 15, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

This statement makes sense coming from the Obama administration. Obama realizes that if the American people actually understood what his policies are that they would then oppose them. Given this, Obama always says the exact opposite of what he believes. Hence, this statement makes perfect sense. Obama knows the economy is in the crapper and his policies will make things worse. Saying that the economy is “sound” in this context can be used as confirmation of what we all feel, the economy is tanking and things will get worse.
Please take this newest Obama warning to heart. Prepare your families for more difficult times. Save as much money as you can and eliminate expenses. I wish everyone good luck and now that you know how to decode Obama speak perhaps you will be better prepared for the future.

Posted by: Jim | March 15, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Here’s the problem with unbridled Capitalism:
It gives those for whom MONEY is the most important thing in life economic control over everyone else – farmers, doctors, lawyers, teachers, firefighters, etc. – people for whom LIFE is more than just money.
Society needs EVERYONE to do their part. LIFE is bigger than money.
Why build our entire social system around one aspect of life and then give control of it to a group of people who don’t care about anything else?
JUST ASKIN’.

Posted by: R Mutt | March 15, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

The Republicans have been a minority for the pass two years under Bush and successfully stopped The Democrats from doing anything.
Now the Republicans as a minority under Obama are doing the same.
We should make them more of a minority in 2010 and 2012. They will still be able to block bills, the checks and balances will still be in play but at least bills that can help us all will get through.

Posted by: Chuck | March 15, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

The Chair of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, Dr. Christina Romer, on Sunday said that the fundamentals of the economy are “sound,” a comment similar to one that her boss as a candidate repeatedly attacked Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., for making during the heat of last year’s presidential campaign
IS THIS A JOKE ALL I HEARD EVERY DAY OF THE CAMPAIGN WAS MCCAIN DONT GET IT IM WAITING FOR OBUMA TO SAY THE RECESSION IS ALL IN OUR MINDS

Posted by: david reyes | March 15, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

“Of course, the fundamentals are sound,” Romer said on Meet the Press,”
Of COURSE they are.
Except that every little “public” jurisdiction, down to the county level, is as crooked as AIG when it comes to compensation and benefits, (especially the lifetime medical benefits that make it so EASY, politically speaking, for The CHANGEling to take National Health “off the table”).

Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 15, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Hope,
The subprime issue created this mess, and you have the correct perspective on the mess we’re in: Democrats are responsible cuz THEY rejected regulation of the mortgage-lending industry, thus giving license to mortgage-lenders to offer these programs just cuz Democrats said that everybody should be able to have a house. Republicans wanted regulatin, and Democrats rejected it in ’95 and, again, in ’03, when John McCain introduced legislation to regulate, Barney Frank saaying that the industry was sound and needed no regulation. Goerge Bush warned, in ’04, that this problem was fast approaching.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | March 15, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

What did we learn from this post?
Nothing.
There is nothing in here of any interest to informing us of policy debates or the state or nature of the economy, except a vague reference to investment in education and energy being important to eventual recovery.
As far as I am concerned, this post was a waste of space.

Posted by: Flash Override | March 15, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

anon “do you think we should not increase any of the regulations in the financial sector, where the complete lack of oversight (under both Clinton and Bush) helped allow this crisis to happen in the first place?”
See, this is the problem. It was not lack of regulation that caused the mortgage melt down. If banks were left to make decisions on their own about accepting mortgages from individuals that cannot afford them, the banks would not have made the loans. Banks hate risk and would not accept high risk on their own. So, why did they accept these risky loans? Two words, government intervention. The government under the auspices of the Community Reinvestment Act told the banks that if they accepted these risky loans that the government would take a percentage of them off their hands through Fannie mae and Freddie mac. Banks would never have made these loans without the government stepping in to say that they would backup these loans. This was all done in a misguided attempt to get low income people into homes, homes that they simply cannot afford. This worked for a short time as the cost of housing went up and we had a relatively stable economy. Now it has crashed and may take our entire economy down. How have we reacted to this? Have we punished the congressmen that supported this debacle? No, not only have we not punished those that pushed big government interference, but we have given them an even stronger hand in our economy. People like Chris Dodd and Barney Frank should have been frog-marched out of the senate. Instead they are given the role of fixing the problems they created through government intervention in removing the natural risk assessments of business.
The only regulation our economy needs is to regulate the ability of government to get involved in business, an area they are truly incompetent to meddle in. That would be a truly beneficial change.

Posted by: Alicia | March 15, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Some Republicans are in a time warp anyone who opposes them on the economy are labeled a Socialist or Radical.
Obama good luck we need you to hang in there like that song “Hang on Sloppy!”

Posted by: Judson | March 15, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

She’s correct. Essentially everything’s in place for a recovery. The Weapon of Mass Destruction in this whole fiscal meltdown was, and continues to be, the ‘mark to market’ accounting rule which forced banks to write down the value of their loan portfolios way below their true value and record life threatening losses. As a result, banks with positive cash flows became technically insolvent and either collapsed or had their ability to make loans severely reduced. This recession could be over in two months if the SEC, (or the Obama Administration) would rescind this ridiculous rule. Banks’ capital would be restored, the equity and capital markets would become unfrozen and the miracle of capitalism would bring us all another round of prosperity.

Posted by: BubblerDad | March 15, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

President Barack Obama’s economic advisers said Sunday that the economy is fundamentally sound.
Obama and the Media crushed Bush and McCain when they said the same thing. And things are much worse now than ever.
I am confused.

Posted by: tr | March 15, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Obama will just give a speech on racism. and the Media will love him again

Posted by: fred | March 15, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

Is Obama now going to tell us that we are imagining the Recession he created an is making worse

Posted by: thom | March 15, 2009, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

‘you can fool some of the people all of the time’ is really true.
Posted by: I’m With Stupid
___________________________
Most people really are greedy people and will vote for the one who promised them the moon. Hence you have Obama who is now spending like crazy to fill all them promises that the working man will pay for eventually.

Posted by: jane | March 15, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

Alicia,
I respectfully think you are completely wrong. You diagnose the econ crisis as being caused by banks being “forced” to take on risky mortgages. If the only problem was that banks took risky mortgages – even if EVERY SINGLE MORTGAGE failed – they would STILL have had enough collateral to cover those mortgage failures.
The real issue is that the banks took all of these mortgages (risky and otherwise) and securitized them, slicing them up into little pieces of “stock” (for lack of a better term) and then sold them off to various investors (your 401K, etc) as “safe” investments. Unfortunately they were all so complex, and based on so many assumptions that turned out to be flatly wrong that they collapsed. When this much larger web of leveraged debt imploded – THEN the econ crisis occurred.
No one regulated the derivatives market this occured in. The banks basically took some risk they had (the mortgages you complain about) and multiplied the risk levels of these items by a huge factor by leveraging them so heavily. Had the market been regulated, perhaps AIG wouldn’t be completely insolvent right now.
If you disagree with this fact (which most economists agree is the root cause of the problem), we really can’t have much more constructive conversation about it.
Also – you didn’t answer my question about Obama’s good faith.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

First Mr. Obama tells the public repeatedly what a huge crisis there is, scares everybody over and over, and now he says,”Don’t be afraid”. Grownups want the truth with no embellishment. Was he not a part of Congress? I’m so disappointed that the President is now fingerpointing. This won’t help my neighbors who didn’t engage in mortgage deception but lost their home after 15 years. People need jobs now and not two years down the road. They don’t want handouts.

Posted by: Vivi | March 15, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

“Some Republicans are in a time warp anyone who opposes them on the economy are labeled a Socialist or Radical.”
There is a time warp but it involves Carter slowly taking over Obama’s mind. Carter is like a virus, it lays low for a few decades and then comes back to infect the samll minded. The Carter virus has atached itself to Obama and won’t let go until the host perishes.

Posted by: James | March 15, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

Mr. Incredible,
How do you define socialism? It seems like you’re just trying to put a scary label on him rather than actually providing any reasonable points.
Obama’s raising the top tax bracket from 35 to 39%. OOOOO SCARY.
Do you think Reagan was a socialist for raising taxes? Was Eisenhower a socialist when the top tax rate was 90%? Was Nixon a socialist when he created the EPA?
He’s a liberal – no kidding. But spare me this idiotic “socialism” talk. You sound like Joe McCarthy.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

==It was not lack of regulation that caused the mortgage melt down.==
Yes, it was. It was the “license” to hand out subprime mortages that led to this.
Mortgage lenders got that “license” from Democrats in the mid-90s who said that people should be able to afford a house; Democrats rejected regulation of the mortgage-lending industry, and the lenders felt free to offer subprime mortgages.
John McCain offered legislation in ’03, that intended to regulate the lenders, but Barney Frank said they need no regulation, that they are sound.
George Bush, then, warned of the crisis.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | March 15, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

==How do you define socialism?==
How does the world define it?
== It seems like you’re just trying to put a scary label on him…==
He already has that label. I had nothing to do with it. I merely agree with it.
==… rather than actually providing any reasonable points.==
I agree with the points against him that have been made.
==Obama’s raising the top tax bracket from 35 to 39%. OOOOO SCARY.==
It would be, if you’re an investor. It should be, if you have a job investors supply.
==Do you think Reagan was a socialist for raising taxes?==
He raised them for a vey short time. Obammy wants to raise them for a longer period than that. And, now, he is open to taxing us more in order to implement his health care program.
== Was Eisenhower a socialist when the top tax rate was 90%?==
No, cuz it wasn’t a redistribution of wealth.
== Was Nixon a socialist when he created the EPA?==
No, cuz it wasn’t a redistribution of wealth.
==He’s a liberal – no kidding. But spare me this idiotic “socialism” talk.==
I gotta write the truth.
==You sound like Joe McCarthy.==
That’s what YOU hear. That’s the way you gotta defend this idiot.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | March 15, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

Mr. Incredible
You didn’t respond to any of the rest of my argument. Do you think derivatives and credit default swaps aren’t the issue? You think that the entire economy melted down solely because of the mere existence of sub-prime mortgages?
Isn’t that, just maybe, an oversimplification?

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Let’s have some oversight of the Federal Reserve for goodness sakes.

Posted by: Ben | March 15, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

fas·cism (fshzm)
n.
1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
Essentially everything Dr. Ron Paul rails against.

Posted by: Huh | March 15, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

I’m just dissapointed in how lazy the comments are. The majority of them pretty much only say:
(1) “Thats not change we can believe in”
(2) “Obama is racist”
(3) “Obama is a socialist”
(4) “Obama is going to destroy America.”
(5) Some combination of the above.
These are the same people who got pissed when a liberal’s only comment is “No Blood for Oil” or “Bush lied so people died”.
If you’re argument is “everything is/was perfect the way Bush did it” or close to it, then say it, and explain why. If you think there are other better things he could be doing instead, then say it and explain why.
If you really think the gov’t should not touch the market or that it should be drowned in a bath tub, then have the guts to take that argument to the logical end instead of pissing and moaning about a 5% increase in the tax rate for people who make $250,000.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

huh – a Ron Paul fan. At least you have a coherent political philosophy. I personally think its crazy (no personal offense intended), but at least he has some concrete ideas instead of just labeling the other side as “socialists”.
P.S. How come some of my comments got deleted? Because I wrote “asinine”? Weird.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

What Romer actually said, uninterrupted by Jake’s formatting above, was “Of course the fundamentals are sound in the sense that the American workers are sound.”
To paraphrase, sounds like she might have been saying if you define the fundamentals as the American worker, then that’s sound.
If she had put her qualification “In the sense that” at the beginning of the sentence, perhaps there wouldn’t be much of a story here.
Either way, it would have been nice if she had conveyed the subtleties here better.

Posted by: Danny | March 15, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Don’t want to pay for what he is spending. Will just quit my job
and go on welfare like most folks
out there and let the government
take care of me for the next 40
years, if we last that long.
Think that is what he expects us
to do….love him and depend
completely on the government.
Why not, it has worked for lots
of folks…..and he has promised
more benefits to them…so why
should they work….get the free stuff!!!!

Posted by: Molly | March 15, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Huh – the philosophy is (relatively) coherent. Its a hell of a lot more than just shouting that Obama is a socialist.
I just think the results are crazy. A return to the gold standard, eliminating the federal reserve, and other measures – I think would be very bad for the country. But agree to disagree there.
Btw – how do you feel about the earmarks Dr. Paul took for his district?

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Obama may be a combination of Ronald Reagan and Winston Churchill.
America will be safe in her hour of need!!!

Posted by: Walter | March 15, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

Anon – On the earmarks: Ron Paul always votes against the spending. However not many others do so the money comes to DC to spend. Paul argues that if congress does not “earmark” the money back to their respective districts, the money most likely will be passed to the executive branch to spend. Earmarks are transparent and traceable, while executive branch spending is much more secretive. Just look at TARP or money spent by Homeland Security. Thus, Paul makes the argument that all money should be earmarked for transparency’s sake. He also points out that the earmarks are sort of like a tax break where tax payers are able to recoup some of their tax dollars.
He does not advocate the Gold standard outright. He wants a competing currency that is rooted in something real in order to establish confidence in the currency’s value.
As far as the Fed goes: many of us hold the Fed and Greenspan as the major culprit in this economic collapse. The inflating of the currency over the last several decades is criminal, and the low interest rates set by the Fed got the whole crazy spending thing going.

Posted by: Huh | March 15, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Molly,
DO IT. Quit your job and go on welfare. Tell me how good it is. Enjoy when you get kicked off after a few months for not finding a job and then you’ll be completely unemployed.
I love these posts – if you think the poor has it so well because of welfare, then quit your job and try and live off of food stamps and welfare checks. I dare you.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

Obama may be a combination of Ronald Reagan and Winston Churchill.
America will be safe in her hour of need!!!
Posted by: Walter | Mar 15, 2009 3:45:03 PM
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…….If they were communists…….

Posted by: Molly | March 15, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm

“Democrats are responsible cuz THEY rejected regulation of the mortgage-lending industry, thus giving license to mortgage-lenders to offer these programs just cuz Democrats said that everybody should be able to have a house.”
This is the standard right-wing attempt to shift blame away from the Republicans for letting the SEC deregulate the banking industry allowing firms like Bear Stearns, Lehman bros and Merryl Lynch to leverage themselves right out of business and almost topple AIG and the rest of wall street with them. This is what really triggered the financial crisis and most Americans correctly recognize it.

Posted by: Skip | March 15, 2009, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

Skip – Yes deregulation occurred, but there are plenty of regulations in place. The SEC looked into Madoff but missed the boat. Fraud laws are also there, but just look at what happens when these bankers commit acts of fraud. They are bailed out and keep their jobs. The best system is a system in which the market truly rules, contracts are honored, and the government intervenes to make sure contracts are honored. Right now when government intervenes, they distort the market place and destroy the currency that we use.

Posted by: Huh | March 15, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Huh – appreciate your comments re: earmarks and Paul’s philosophy overall. I don’t know enough on Paul-ist ideas to mount a serious critique, so I won’t try.
I wish and hope people with constructive ideas (even if I disagree) like yourself are the ones that actually gain power in the Republican Party. Then maybe both sides can start debating like grown ups and engage in more constructive arguments.

Posted by: Anon | March 15, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Anon – I wish the same. I sometimes get in here and tangle with folks that are mental or something. I will look for you on blogs in the future.

Posted by: Huh | March 15, 2009, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Report the latest poll numbers.ABC will somehow skew this number in Obama’s favor.
We want the truth not your opinion.

Posted by: Johnny L | March 15, 2009, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

So glad Tapper threw this out for us to discuss. I saw Obama’s remarks earlier and immediately yelled at my screen, “Funny, you didn’t think much of that sentiment when candidate McCain had it back during the campaign.” And then I saw Romer this morning as I was watching all the shows and I just had to shake my head.
Flash, you complained that this post “was a waste of space.” You mean, because it highlighted some of the ways that candidate Obama differs from president Obama? You mean, because it reminded people that candidate McCain was excoriated for making a correct statement that is being echoed now by Obama administration representatives, including the president himself? Sorry, some of us find such a post enlightening and entertaining. Shall we have Mr. Tapper do more “Michelle Obama is on a lot of magazine covers” post instead?
Danny, you prove Tapper’s point when you suggest that if the quotes had been formatted differently, we would more clearly see what Romer was saying. But given your quote from her, she is saying EXACTLY what McCain said and got ridiculed for– that the fundamentals are strong depending on what you think the fundamentals are. I agree with McCain on what the fundamentals are, so I never had a problem with what he said. And I don’t think Obama is wrong to make the same point now. Maddeningly inconsistent, yes, but wrong, no.
What really disturbed me about Romer’s statements as I watched her this morning was that she and the administration continue to try to justify making major, expensive changes in our health care and education systems and environmental policy by claiming that will help our economy in the long run. I will not pretend that it is an original idea of mine to point out that, while all of these are connected to the economy, none of them are directly tied to the current financial problems we are having, none of them caused these problems, and none of them should be addressed in a major way until we have the current financial crisis, tied to housing and banking, under control and a clear vision of what resources we have to put toward those other changes.

Posted by: moderate | March 15, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm

“Yes deregulation occurred, but there are plenty of regulations in place.”
After a financial collapse of this magnitude I don’t understand how anyone can argue that there are plenty of regulations in place. And if anything missing Madoff only reinforces that point.

Posted by: Skip | March 15, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Its true Obama is related to not just Winston Churchill but to Brad Pitt. Americans will not only be safe but even cool :-D
This is from google -
Clinton related to Trudeau, Obama to Churchill by CTV.ca News Staff – Updated Wed. Mar. 26 2008 9:48 PM ET
A new report from the New England Historic Genealogical Society has turned up some fascinating connections. It turns out Barack Obama, for example, is a distant cousin to Brad Pitt.
His lineage also stretches across the Atlantic, where he can count former Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill as a cousin, though most of the ancestry from Obama’s mother’s side is from the southern and mid-Atlantic states, Child said.

Posted by: Cooday | March 15, 2009, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

Such as pointing out that Georgie allowed Summers to lie unchecked all morning, with gems such as this, implying that the GOP ran Congress when the trillion dollar deficit for fiscal 09 was created:
SUMMERS: We’d love to see Senator McConnell’s concrete
alternatives that gets closer to a balanced budget. The situation the
president inherited of nearly $1 trillion deficits, before he did
anything, came at a time — came at a time when it was a Republican
president and a Republican Congress that were making the decisions.

Posted by: Anti-Harkonnen Freedom Fighter | March 15, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

they became sound when his ratings slipped…duh!!!

Posted by: sarah | March 15, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

at what point did it become sound?

Posted by: d | March 15, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

As I read the comments I keep forgetting one thing. Democrats are more honest, compassionate and unbiased than Republicans. It isn’t in their nature to be hypocritical.
Understanding this truth, I have to ask, why are so many Democrats will to put up with this deception and hypocrisy?
One quick example, you worried about Bush listening in on your phone calls but could care less that an official in the Obama administration wants to put a GPS in your car for the purpose of taxing your mileage. And that means they can track your location.
If you even disagree a little with the GPS plan, where is the outcry?
And now the Obama administration is open to taxing healthcare benefits. A plan he ridiculed McCain for proposing. The stock excuse is that things are worse now so he has to go back on the promise of not raising taxes on the middle class, even a nickel.
My question is whether he was more ignorant of reality on the campaign trail than was McCain? And now the fundamentals of the economy are sound? I though McCain was out of touch when he said that on the campaign. Or perhaps he a lot smarter than he was portrayed.
You can’t have it both ways. Either McCain understood the world better on the campaign trail or his ideas are wrong. Only the ignorant or cynical criticize an idea simply because it is espoused by an opponent on one day and adopt it months later.

Posted by: n22s | March 15, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Obama doesn’t need a bust of Sir Winston Churchill as they are family and blood is thicker then water or bronze bust.
I agree American is safer because Sir Winston Churchill’s family blood runs through Obama’s family.
Why are we talking about Obama’s family ties to Sir Winston Churchill when its clear that Jake Tapper is focusing on the Fundamentals of the Economy?
We should all be supporting Obama now. He inherited this mess from Bush/Cheney. It will take years to fix this.

Posted by: Rockey | March 15, 2009, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

Doug wrote: “Republicans sound like idiots when they attack Obama on the economy when they created the mess in the first place. Republicans sound foolish on the Sunday morning talk shows today attacking Obama without an alternative plan.”
How about the plan for a tax holiday for everyone, a capital gains tax cut or elimination for several months, making permanent the Bush tax cuts.
You may not like the plans put forth but they have been proposed.
This may not be in Webster’s but I define willful ignorance as the conscious avoidance of facts contrary to one’s opinions.
Thanks for the edification Doug.

Posted by: n22s | March 15, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

Doug, it’s a matter of abundant public record that the current economic crisis was created by lack of regulatory authority over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The Republicans repeatedly sought to create such an authority, and the Democrats in congress stonewalled it every time. Google “S 109″ for one part of that history.
Meanwhile, it appears that anti-Obama right-wingers have inflitrated the Democrats:
“WASHINGTON — Government spending on most domestic programs is growing at its fastest pace in nearly 30 years, and a lot of worried Democrats are seeking ways to rewrite and reduce the size of President Barack Obama’s budget proposals.
“As a result, ‘you’ll see a budget come out of the House that spends considerably less,’ said Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Fla., a leader of the Blue Dog Democrats, a group of 47 of the party’s House of Representatives conservatives and moderates.”

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 15, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

From answers.yahoo:
“Go to the USSenate.gov site and find the minutes under the Thomas section and read for yourself. The bill is S.109
“John McCain and other Republicans tried to reign in Fannie and Freddy, but those organizations were lining the pockets of too many Senators and House members. (some were Republicans)
“If these people would have listened to McCain back in 2005, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now.
“Incidentally, Obama received more money from Fannie and Freddy than any of the other 537 Congresspersons except Chris Dodd.”
(If all you Google is “S 109,” you’ll get some left-wing blog screed. Add terms like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac if you want the whole story. Basically, as I’ve discussed before, the Republicans reported it out of committee on a party-line, 11-10 vote, but they lacked votes to cut of a Democrat filibuster so it was never voted on.)

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 15, 2009, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm

Let me see if I understand this correctly. Democrats wanted to help people who wouldn’t normally qualify for a loan to get mortgages. They pressured banks to lend money, arguing that the government would back it up. then the government backups caved in because they had lent too much to bad debts. So we had to throw trilions of dollars indiscriminately toward the banks, in order to shore them up. The bad debts are still there and as a result of the bad debts and the humongous amounts of money throw away by our government, we are in an economic crisis.
Now the government has come up with a new plan. It will help bad debts renegotiate downward the amount of principal and interest on their debts, and protect them from foreclosure. It will also pressure the banks to lend money to lots and lots of new people who simply can’t afford to pay them back. But it’s okay, because it is all guaranteed by the government.
So when are we going to have to bail out the banks for round two of promoting and guaranteeing bad debts, and how much will it cost.
Does anyone see the circular logic in this, or did everyone go through (government run) public school?

Posted by: ragnar30066 | March 15, 2009, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

“He inherited this mess from Bush/Cheney.”
Actually, Obama inherited this mess by bequeathing it to himself. He never raised a finger to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. More important, he and his congressional Democrat colleagues never approved Bush’s FY 2009 budget, and instead voted for a continuing resolution. We are now operating on Obama’s deficit, and he’s making it substantially worse for FY 2010.

Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 15, 2009, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm

“Doug, it’s a matter of abundant public record that the current economic crisis was created by lack of regulatory authority over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The Republicans repeatedly sought to create such an authority, and the Democrats in congress stonewalled it every time. Google “S 109″ for one part of that history.”
You mean its a matter of abundant right-wing opinion. Public record will show that the Republicans made no real effort to get regulations passed. They never even brought s 109 to the floor for a vote. When the Democrats did pass regulations in May of ’07 many Republicans voted against it.

Posted by: Skip | March 15, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

If the Republicans just want to say no to Obama and 70 percent of Americans who want the Republicans to work with Obama on the economy then the voters have a right to keep them in the minority in 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: Kate | March 15, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Doug, it’s a matter of abundant public record that the current economic crisis was created by lack of regulatory authority over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
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What abundant public record? Viral E-mails, that you people like to send to each other?
More crap from the GOP.

Posted by: Thinking | March 15, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm

And after all this Freddie and Frannie weren’t the ones that triggered the collapse. Bear Stearns was the first to go down loaded with toxic loans. Lehman Bros was next and we’re still dealing with problems at AIG because of it.

Posted by: Skip | March 15, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

Time to send “Sheriff” Joe Biden in to stratighten out the Obama staff and get them talking on the same page:
Fear, doom, end of America, George Bush’s fault, rich are bad, share the wealth, taxes are good, Socialism.

Posted by: Sally J | March 15, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Republicans who just want to say no to helping America and Obama beware -
Yanni

Posted by: Yanni Fan | March 15, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Skip – It could be argued that to many regulations of the free market by the Federal Reserve took place. I am not for an absence of all regulations by any means, just for an absence of destructive ones.

Posted by: Huh | March 15, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

What’s different is the timing and context of when it was said, and the fact that currently, targeted actions are being taken to correct the dire economic situation.
Things are bad now but going to get better, with or without negative creeps, Dem or Repub, who do not pitch in and cooperate with the Executive on domestic economic policy.
I look forward to 2010 and the Senate Majority being able to prevent filibusters.
Not because the majority are Dem or Repub, but because then things will get done much faster.

Posted by: BigSlick | March 15, 2009, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Skip – Ron Paul said on the house floor in 2002 that Fannie and Freddie were insolvent and would eventually go belly up. Maybe he knew something others overlooked.

Posted by: Huh | March 15, 2009, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm

Kate wrote: “If the Republicans just want to say no to Obama and 70 percent of Americans who want the Republicans to work with Obama on the economy then the voters have a right to keep them in the minority in 2010 and 2012.’
I was under the impression that dissent was the highest form of patriotism. Kate, did you ever applaud those who refused to work with Bush. Did you raise one syllable of protest when Harry Reid declared the war in Iraq to be lost?
Principled people can disagree Kate. For many Republicans and Democrats there is a little more to it than simply saying no. I realize Republicans are simplistic but I’m surprised at that type of analysis coming from an Obama supporter.

Posted by: n22s | March 15, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm

The fundamentals of the economy are sound? To borrow from VP Biden’s quote book, I have the same four letter response to Obama that I had for McCain when they say the fundamentals are sound: W-R-O-N-G!

Posted by: Voter2Be | March 15, 2009, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

“Principled people can disagree Kate. For many Republicans and Democrats there is a little more to it than simply saying no. I realize Republicans are simplistic but I’m surprised at that type of analysis coming from an Obama supporter.”
Really? I’d expect nothing but.

Posted by: PD | March 15, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

“What’s different is the timing and context of when it was said, and the fact that currently, targeted actions are being taken to correct the dire economic situation.”
You’re exactly correct.
The difference in timing is that it’s now two weeks later than when Obama was characterizing the economic situation as in “crisis” and warning of “catastrophe.”
The difference in context is that after those doom-and-gloom messages, some of Obama’s advisors noticed that he was helping the market to tank. So now he’s changed the context to Happy Hour.
He’s making it up as he goes along, flailing around and grasping at a new straw each day.

Posted by: PD | March 15, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm

Anyone know what criteria Tapper’s team uses to decide which comments to whack?

Posted by: PD | March 15, 2009, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

“Republicans who just want to say no to helping America and Obama beware”
Or what? You’ll send us to the gulag?
Welcome to the Obama Police State.

Posted by: PD | March 15, 2009, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

“The Fundamentals of Our Economy Are Strong” … In October 1987, when the stock market crashed, Ronald Reagan reassured the public.
Wow Obama is like Ronald Reagan. Reagan said the same thing 22 years ago.
Ok Obamacans we still need you text all your friends to support Obama! Just say no to the Republicans in Washington who don’t know that 70 percent of the voters what Republicans to work with Democrats and Obama!

Posted by: Teddy | March 15, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm

In order to curry congressional support after their accounting scandals in 2003 and 2004, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac committed to increased financing of “affordable housing.” They became the largest buyers of subprime and Alt-A mortgages between 2004 and 2007, with total GSE exposure eventually exceeding $1 trillion. In doing so, they stimulated the growth of the subpar mortgage market and substantially magnified the costs of its collapse….
In 2005, the Senate Banking Committee, then under Republican control, adopted a strong reform bill, introduced by Republican Sens. Elizabeth Dole, John Sununu and Chuck Hagel, and supported by then chairman Richard Shelby. The bill prohibited the GSEs from holding portfolios, and gave their regulator prudential authority (such as setting capital requirements) roughly equivalent to a bank regulator. In light of the current financial crisis, this bill was probably the most important piece of financial regulation before Congress in 2005 and 2006. All the Republicans on the Committee supported the bill, and all the Democrats voted against it. Mr. McCain endorsed the legislation in a speech on the Senate floor. The Senator Obama, like all other Democrats, remained silent.
Now the Democrats are blaming the financial crisis on “deregulation.” This is a canard. There has indeed been deregulation in our economy — in long-distance telephone rates, airline fares, securities brokerage and trucking, to name just a few — and this has produced much innovation and lower consumer prices….
If the Democrats had let the 2005 legislation come to a vote, the huge growth in the subprime and Alt-A loan portfolios of Fannie and Freddie could not have occurred, and the scale of the financial meltdown would have been substantially less. The same politicians who today decry the lack of intervention to stop excess risk taking in 2005-2006 were the ones who blocked the only legislative effort that could have stopped it.
I still feel that all parties are to blame and while I was not in favor of the run away spending under the repubs I like it even less now
Barney Frank should be the last person on anything having to do with banks.

Posted by: Karla1953 | March 15, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm

Obamacans are needed true. I hope they are all invited to the White House some day. It would be great to see General Colin Powell visiting Obama. When the Republicans threw the General under the bus they lost a lot of support.
The extreme Republicans what to throw all Americans under the bus who don’t agree with them.

Posted by: Obamcan | March 15, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm

Give them a bonus. Give Obama and Biden a bonus! Gibe AIG execs a bonus. Millions and Billions. You taxpayers shut up your pie holes and quit your whining and open your wallets. You voted for change! Now , remember, everyone has got some skin in the game..
especially working taxpayers. Pelosi, Reid, Frank and Dodd…give them a BIG
bonus. You wanted change and that is what we got. Quit whining and GIVE! NOW!

Posted by: Badboy | March 15, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

“All the Republicans on the Committee supported the bill, and all the Democrats voted against it.”
And there were more Republicans than Democrats so the Republicans won. Why didn’t they bring it to the floor?

Posted by: Skip | March 15, 2009, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm

“Now the Democrats are blaming the financial crisis on “deregulation.”"
Darn right. When the SEC starts letting firms leverage to ridiculously dangerous levels and then those very same firms then collapse, rocking Wall St. to it’s foundations, its not hard to find the smoking gun.

Posted by: Skip | March 15, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm

We are very happy that Obama is President now. Alright you sense positive change in the air.
Our nightmare of Bush/Cheney is over in one way but the damage they created will last for years. The economy mess will be a reminder of them so in anther way they are still here today will be in 2010 and 2012.

Posted by: Seth | March 15, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

The big turnaround came when the Ag department canceled Stanley Johnson’s $400,000 consulting contract.
That was the anchor weighing this whole economy down.

Posted by: MayBee | March 15, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm

Which is it Mr. Obama. First, the economy is going to hell and then, it’s in good shape. Political hokey-pokey!
Can’t believe a word this man says!

Posted by: dl | March 15, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm

Wow Obama is like Ronald Reagan. Reagan said the same thing 22 years ago.
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Yeah and John McCain said it in September when the democrats and Obama mocked him. Then Obama got elected and really sent the economy into the tank.
He knows no more about the strength of the fundamentals of the economy than Tattoo Barbie does.

Posted by: Plumber | March 15, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

Obama tells everyone that we are verging on a catastrophe if the stimulus is not approved…no time left, the end of the United States— no one gets to study or read the stimulus in advance. A few days later AFTER Obama signs the stimulus package into law he now says the economy is strong.
OBAMA has produced the worst disaster in American history $800 BILLION of debt in just two months for all Americans to pay off or lose their country to the Chinese.

Posted by: Mike | March 15, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

IT IS OKAY MR PRESIDENT. KEEP IT UP AND AMERICANS WILL SAY THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY YOUR TAXES, WE ARE NOT GOING TO PAY TAXES ON HEALTH CARE, WE CAN NOT AFFORD IT WITH ALL OF THE OTHER TAXES. LET’S SEE GAS TAX, TAX ON DRIVING, TAX ON ENERGY, TAX ON BUYING A CAR, HOUSE, TAX ON SODA, TAX ON OWNING PROPERTY, AND LET’S SEE WHAT OTHER TAX YOU CAN COME UP WITH. LET’S SEE THAT IS MORE THEN HALF OF A PAY CHECK WHEN YOU ONLY MAKE 5.25 AN HOUR. AMERICANS WILL TAKE A STAND AND KICK YOU, PELOSI, REID, AND ANY OTHER IDIOT OUT OF OFFICE THAT BELIEVES IN TAXING WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. WE DID IT TO ENGLAND, WE CAN DO IT TO THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT.

Posted by: VETERAN | March 15, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm

Obama is on course to destroy our country by taxing the workers to give to the takers.

Posted by: jim 234 | March 15, 2009, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

But given your quote from her, she is saying EXACTLY what McCain said and got ridiculed for– that the fundamentals are strong depending on what you think the fundamentals are.
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Actually Jake himself describes the Romer and McCain quotes as “similar,” not exactly the same.
It seems to me that she likely meant to say something like what Obama said, but it did come out awkwardly similar to what McCain said. Especially if you read the entirety of her comments.

Posted by: Danny | March 15, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm

Republican talking points rely on a misinterpretation of cause and effect. In the mortgage industry, most of the problem loans were made by institutions that were not even covered by laws requiring them to make affordable housing loans. Even then, the problem was not the loans themselves, the problem was the declining value of the mortgage-backed securities, very lightly regulated because of the commodities rules. So even while people were paying off their loans on time and the loans were making the banks money, they were losing their shirts on the securities. Then, the credit default swaps, which were totally unregulated, caused a chain reaction in the financial sector, because the big players insured [because insurance was what it really was] more than they could cover.

Posted by: Flash Override | March 15, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Tomorrow, I will head to the unemployment office to file for unemployment.
The economy is fundamentally sound when AIG gives the government and taxpayers the FINGER!!!!!
We the people need to STAND UP and TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY!!!!
FROM ALL OF THOSE POLITICAL CROOKS!!!!
REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT AND INDEPENDENCE!!!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

Posted by: sisterdearest09 | March 15, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

n22s says:
As I read the comments I keep forgetting one thing. Democrats are more honest, compassionate and unbiased than Republicans. It isn’t in their nature to be hypocritical.
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This might be one of my all time favorite posts by anyone, anywhere on any blog. It just oozes self-righteousness, sanctimony and elitism, not to mention a basic lack of understanding of human nature.
Neither party has a monopoly on the fairer virtues of life, nor is either party free from life’s demons. Come to Rhode Island. You will never find a more dishonest, corrupt, cynical and biased group of politicians in your life. We have the worst business climate, the highest taxes and highest unemployment in the country and the worst median income in New England. Guess which party dominates, and has dominated for more than 40 years?

Posted by: Woody | March 15, 2009, 8:35 pm 8:35 pm

Posted by: Flash Override | Mar 15, 2009 8:22:00 PM
And reform of GSE’s and the creation of an oversight entity for Fannie would minimized the mess.
Which is exactly what Bush wanted.
To keep the fake performance of Fannie going Frankling Raines started buying sub-prime mortgages from Penny Pritzker.

Posted by: drjohn | March 15, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm

“Of course, the fundamentals are sound,” Romer said…
“I really think you’re misinterpreting the president,” Romer said. “They key thing the president was saying is we have our eyes on the fundamentals.”
These guys cannot be honest even for the duration of an interview.

Posted by: drjohn | March 15, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm

“In the mortgage industry, most of the problem loans were made by institutions that were not even covered by laws requiring them to make affordable housing loans.”
Not true.
It was the securitization of the sub-prime mortgages that started the downward slide.

Posted by: drjohn | March 15, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm

Bush gets a lot of blame but laws were passed at the end of the Clinton presidency that forced banks to make loans to people who couldn’t afford them. Warnings were sent about Fannie and Freddie but nothing was done. One
freshman senator from Illinois voted against reigning them in and he also received money from them for his presidential campaign. Now he is having to give them money (payback) to keep them afloat! Anyone want to guess who that IS ???? Come on liberals… I can’t hear you. Change we don’t need!
Obama and his administration are scumbags!

Posted by: Badboy | March 15, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Wow!! “The fundamentals of the economy are sound” isn’t that the statement that McCain and Bush made and were ridiculed for? Obama is a joke!!!

Posted by: CW | March 15, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm

How many trillion dollars is Obama going to spend this week? He is talking about another stimulus. Obama is destroying our country.

Posted by: CW | March 15, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

One of the byproducts of our collective psyche, as a direct result of the “economy” we have surrounded ourselves with recently is that of immediate results.We go out and expect/demand it at almost every turn. And as a result, we have all come to expect immediate fulfillment of any corrective measures we take.It took literally dozens of years to incrementally get us to the place we are at today. To expect immediate results is somewhat like repeating the same function and expecting different results – insanity.Give Mr Obama his administration, policies, progams time to work. Again, we did this collectively and over many years, it will take some time to correct.

Posted by: Darryl the Contractor | March 15, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm

Where are the 3 million jobs Obama promised? so far he saved 25.

Posted by: CW | March 15, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm

One of the byproducts of our collective psyche, as a direct result of the “economy” we have surrounded ourselves with recently is that of immediate results.We go out and expect/demand it at almost every turn. And as a result, we have all come to expect immediate fulfillment of any corrective measures we take.It took literally dozens of years to incrementally get us to the place we are at today. To expect immediate results is somewhat like repeating the same function and expecting different results – insanity.Give Mr Obama his administration, policies, progams time to work. Again, we did this collectively and over many years, it will take some time to correct.

Posted by: Darryl the Contractor | March 15, 2009, 9:45 pm 9:45 pm

Tell us Shamaedene, how long are you willing to wait, and what needs to happen for you to declare success?

Posted by: Plumber | March 15, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

Dr. Romer was masterful. She has a complete grip on what is needed. Develop in the small business arena; this will create massive new jobs and tax revenues will explode. This is the reason that Bernanke is saying that the recession will end this year.

Posted by: WestCoastMessenger | March 15, 2009, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

This is an administration based on LIES AND CORRUPTION
Obama cannot be trusted

Posted by: Obama-LIVE FROM THE WAFFLE HOUSE | March 15, 2009, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

Job creation is supposed to be the main purpose of stimulus bill, however, many of the jobs created in the stimulus projects are related to construction requiring special skill and training in variety of engineering field, not for the recently unemployed people most of which are either experienced in the manufacturing assembly or information technology. In the stimulus projects, I am not aware any plan involved great construction for major bridge and highways or mining, dam building projects which will justify the need for large number of workers and new equipments made by Catpillar. For energy generation, there is nothing planned for offshore drilling , new nuclear and hydro power plants, power grid in populated area which create large number of jobs, although there is some fund said to be allocated for energy conservation improvement of existing inefficient government buildings and low income housings. Overall, the task for energy conservation building improvement and miscellaneous road and bridge work are nowhere like the great constructions of infrastructure performed during the great Depression , therefore the number of job created will be much smaller than those undertaken in FDR’s new deal.

Posted by: austin | March 15, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm

Where are the 3 million jobs Obama promised? so far he saved 25.
Posted by: CW
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lol …
we still have a few days left until his FIRST term is up …
Impatience does not look good on you …

Posted by: Bloggette | March 15, 2009, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Plumber, YOU WAITED EIGHT YEARS!!!
1. You allowed Bush to send INNOCENT boys and girls to their deaths – for SIX YEARS
2. You allowed Bush to spend BILLIONS of dollars on that war – for SIX YEARS
3. You allowed Bush to change a surplus into a deficit – for EIGHT YEARS
You waited that LONG for your country to be this messed up-yet you want its rebuild in two months?
GET A GRIP!!
You need to be fair. I understand that those without jobs and homes are hurting…but considering you have the means to write this CRAP you seem to be doing fine

Posted by: Shamaedene | March 15, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm

I don’t think anyone in Washington has a clue to what is going on.

Posted by: Tina | March 15, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm

Actually I finally listened to the actual video of Romer on Meet the Press.
Romer was very clear in FIRST STATING that Obama is FIXING the fundamentals of the economy, which puts her later remarks that the fundamentals of the economy are sound “IN A SENSE” in their proper context.
I am appalled, once again, by the lousy, fake journalism of David Gregory and Jake Tapper who intentionally misstate (Tapper) and misread (Gregory) the words of Romer and Obama in order to aid and abet Republican Talking Points.
Fake Journalism like this HURTS AMERICA.

Posted by: Danny | March 15, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

I’m never going to believe another report of Jake Tapper’s.
He spliced and diced Romer’s words in the above blog, destroying their natural order and context.
Pathetic.

Posted by: Danny | March 15, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm

WCM, did you truly think Dr. Romer was “masterful”? Amazing. I found her maddening in dodging questions and avoiding giving direct answers.
On the other hand, I was rather impressed by Dr. Ben Bernanke in his “60 Minutes” profile this evening. He acquitted himself well. I know, different formats and all that– the thing was beautifully lit and I could have sworn they used that gauzy camera lens that softens everyone’s edges. He had the opportunity to tell his story in a longer, more accommodating format. Still, it made for interesting viewing.
A stylistic question– why does everyone, including Mr. Tapper and WCM, invariably refer to Romer as “Dr. Romer,” when there are plenty of folks with doctorates in the news these days and most do not get the title mentioned regularly. There’s Dr. Ben Bernanke, for example, and Dr. Lawrence Summers, just to mention two. I’m as proud of the Dr. attached to my name as anyone, so I do not begrudge Dr. Romer getting the prestige of the title attached, but I’m just wondering why the good doctor gets the professional tag and the guys don’t. I thought it might be a male/female thing, because I usually, but not always, see references to Dr. Susan Rice (but Dr. Condoleeza Rice got the title attached far less often). But I was just curious.

Posted by: moderate | March 15, 2009, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm

Obama appears to be plagiarizing McCain. The world has gone mad.

Posted by: Geo | March 16, 2009, 1:52 am 1:52 am

==Plumber… You allowed Bush to send INNOCENT boys and girls to their deaths – for SIX YEARS…==
We have a volunteer military. Each one of those assigned to Iraq signed a contract with the military. Are you saying that they didn’t know what they were doing when they signed on the bottom line?

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | March 16, 2009, 4:34 am 4:34 am

==Mr. Incredible
Do you think derivatives and credit default swaps aren’t the issue?==
Subprime lending triggered the entire mess we’re in. It isn’t, by itself, at fault. It’s what it led to — that is, irresponsible people taking on those loads. However, had mortgage lending been regulated, as the Republicans wanted, there wouldn’t have been subprime irresponsibility.
Mortgage lenders had “license” to lend subprime because Democrats rejected regulation that Republicans wanted.
== You think that the entire economy melted down solely because of the mere existence of sub-prime mortgages?==
No. However, when, suddenly, people couldn’t afford to pay down those subprime mortgages, foreclosures began. Then, banks stopped giving credit to businesses that needed the money. Businesses had to lay off. More people foreclosed. And so on.
==Isn’t that, just maybe, an oversimplification?==
Obammy supporters would like to think so. However, it is not. Subprime mortgage lending triggered it all.

Posted by: Mr. Incredible | March 16, 2009, 4:42 am 4:42 am

I am confused.
When McCain and Bush said the same thing.
“the economy is sound and just going through market corrections”
Obama and the Obama hit squad (which includes the media) pounced on them as being out of touch.
now the messiah says it and he is right.

Posted by: jane | March 16, 2009, 6:05 am 6:05 am

((This said it all.))
Perhaps McCain was right back then?
Statement concering Obama “I really think you’re misinterpreting the president,” Romer said. “They key thing the president was saying is we have our eyes on the fundamentals.”

Posted by: beth | March 16, 2009, 6:10 am 6:10 am

Obama will just BOMB some more Pakistan’s today so Americans will forget they voted for this mistake called Obama

Posted by: anger | March 16, 2009, 6:12 am 6:12 am

Is Obama still learning this garbage from his college professors. You know what they say. If your to stupid to do andthing you become a teacher, a critic or a reporter.

Posted by: oh lassie | March 16, 2009, 6:17 am 6:17 am

How can McCain have been right back then? When the economy was ‘tanking’ – were its fundamentals strong? Or now when the government is stepping in to do what it can to help the millions of homeowners stay in their homes; and get new jobs? Is Obama’s aide right now?
Its all about the timing. Remember the Republican way is let the banks fail and ….I dont know what should happen after that.

Posted by: Shamaedene | March 16, 2009, 7:28 am 7:28 am

Thre isw nothing sound about Obama. He is in way over his head. I cannot help but feel forry for him; and yet, he has not lost his arrogance. He does not have a clue as to what he is doing. The media elected him and now they are going to have to protect him. He cannot even talk without someone telling him what to say. He can blame Bush for so long but soon he is going to have to take the blame.How much did he pay to go to go to college and how much did his wife pay. That question needs to be answered. You cannot give education to every person in his country, regardless of their ethnicity. Some are just not smart enough to go. You figure it out.

Posted by: Jane | March 16, 2009, 7:38 am 7:38 am

OBAMA-the fundamentals of the economy are SOUND
MCCAIN-the fundamentals of the economy are STRONG
sound-strong quite a big difference if we continue to parse words

Posted by: actually | March 16, 2009, 8:02 am 8:02 am

“Thre isw nothing sound about Obama……. The media elected him and now they are going to have to protect him. He cannot even talk without someone telling him what to say.”
—————-Look out there! It’s quite early…you might be sleep walking & talking….

Posted by: D. | March 16, 2009, 8:22 am 8:22 am

Obama will just BOMB some more civilians in Pakistan to divert attention from him being a big idiot and how stupid people were to actually believe in him/.

Posted by: oh lassie | March 16, 2009, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Our Smartest Clueless Leader was sincere both ways. First he was told how to deceive you blind followers, telling you sky was falling to tank the economy and the stockmarket. Then, he read the teleprompter pretending to sell you his medicine “hope” to cure your dizziness after his spin.
The truth is PBO really has no clue what he was reading, whether sky was falling or fundamentals were strong.
You cannot blame him for his boneheaded mistakes.He has the good intentions and he shows off trying, right? Besides, how could you blame someone clueless for doing somethings wrong?

Posted by: two cats | March 16, 2009, 8:32 am 8:32 am

Lets blame this on BUSH and McCain

Posted by: democrat | March 16, 2009, 8:38 am 8:38 am

“First he was told how to deceive you blind followers, telling you sky was falling to tank the economy and the stockmarket…”
No I remember it was George Bush who first told us the sky was falling. After 8 years of telling us that Wall Street didn’t need any supervision and that free markets should be left to run unchecked, with a dumbfound expression he went on TV and tried to explain how they would need billions of dollars to shore up the banking industry since some of the biggest players had engorged themselves on toxic loans to the point of collapse sending a wave of uncertainty through the entire market.

Posted by: Skip | March 16, 2009, 9:30 am 9:30 am

This is too funny…I cannot believe that the administration would stick their neck out on the economic fundamentals theme … considering the current state of the economy. It must be the March Madness theme..where the sixteenth seed’s cheerleaders continue to believe that Cinderella will make the Final Four.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | March 16, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am

So where are all the liberals wwho screaming that McCain was out of touch?
Hello????????????

Posted by: Mike_C | March 16, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am

“So where are all the liberals wwho screaming that McCain was out of touch?”
Its like high stakes Poker Mike. The GOP was telling us that the economy was strong because they were betting that the housing bubble would hold until they got McCain in, but they didn’t make it. The bubble burst and they lost.
Now this administration is going all in on a similar bet. Sure, its very risky, but if the economy does turn around they will be sitting in a very strong position. If it doesn’t they’ll have to pay up too.

Posted by: Skip | March 16, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am

THIS IS BUSHES AND MCCAINS FAULT HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DONT LET ME LAUGH I WISH I HAD ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE ELECTION THOSE DEMS SAYING HOW OUT OF TOUCH THE REPUBLICANS WERE NOW THEY SAY OF HE DIDNT MEAN IT HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA I WISHED I COULD LAUGH IN YOUR FACE PERSON TO PERSON

Posted by: david reyes | March 16, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Talk about being out of touch…Obama, Clinton and others spent two years campaigning instead on minding the store.

Posted by: Stilicho2008 | March 16, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

If the most merciful and all knowing Messiah says the economy is strong then it must be so.He would never mislead his followers.Just take another drink of that delicious Kool-aid and all will be well.

Posted by: Ronaldus | March 16, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

William: you forgot “hypocrisy.” That is a key part of the GOP/Limbaugh kool-aid

Posted by: Afton Girl | March 16, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Of all the attacks on McCain/Palin the media should be ashamed!!! This administration is a joke but it’s NOT funny!!! I’m not laughing!!! The Messiah has NOT come!

Posted by: jill | March 16, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Just last week we were in a crisis of epic proportions. What has changed? It is amazing that we can go from the end of the world to hey it is alright now. Where is the reporting and hard questions that journalists are supposed to ask? This is why print media is going bye bye!

Posted by: Bob | March 16, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm

The Chair of President Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers, Dr. Christina Romer, on Sunday said that the fundamentals of the economy are “sound,” a comment similar to one that her boss as a candidate repeatedly attacked Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., for making during the heat of last year’s presidential campaign.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NOW isnt this the biggest JOKE ever. FIRST its CRISIS FOR MONTHS now this? Can anyone say credibility gap?
Sure you can. You have all been scamed to the tune of over a Trillion dollars and you thought Madoff was bad. Bernie didnt know all you had to do is get into political office where the big payoffs happen. Obama and the democrats have sure screwed us all this time arent we proud?

Posted by: ChicagBob | March 16, 2009, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm

It’s Amateur Hour in the White House. >>>
Couldnt agree more.

Posted by: ChicagBob | March 16, 2009, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm

what a crock of bull dookie,them dem fools will swallow anything. this clown from chitown running the us into the ground. we better get a handle on it. he kind of reminds me of the crook mayor we just booted out of detroit. just living a fantasy at the expense of john-q. I when i see whats happening to europe and how they were led astray by the leftists, well this isnt a game and this guy is dangerous, sleep well

Posted by: stosh | March 17, 2009, 1:16 am 1:16 am

Let’s do away with this charade that the Dems arent most culpable in all this with their pushing banks to give out loans to those who couldnt be trusted to pay their utility bills let alone a mortgage.
The top five reciepents of Fannie, and Freddie contributions are all Democrats, Obama being 2nd on that list in only 2 years as a jr senator.
Obamas outrage is a feigned as can be. Tim Geithner was the architect of AIGs bailout contract. Obama in 50 days has proven himself to be the most corrupt , and clueless president in history. Hiring a tax cheat to run the treasury, and IRS????? No red flags there. and,,,How many pledges has the sound judment candidate broken?

Posted by: Badger | March 17, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am

Does this “dr-PhD” ever worked in the real world–paying payroll taxes, make a payroll, or ran a real business for profit–or does she like many democrats sit in ivory towers with her PhD telling people how things should academically go. she’s probably from Berkeley, yelled/bullied or sued her way into a professorship, never ran a business–now is on obama’s “finance” team. Let’s all have up-talk, naive good times, and happy talk, and cheerfull academic phoney attitudes that way we can suck this economy dry and give illegal immigrant leeches even more US tax payer health benefits. Like locusts look what they have done to bankrupt LA.

Posted by: Mike Weiner | March 17, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

We’re in a small d-depression right now. Obama and that Geithner imbecile who is a tax cheat is running the treasury and IRS. Wowsers. Barack Hussein Obama has went back on his word too many times. Where is the outrage, the action to overthrow this joke corrupt, fraudulent govt??

Posted by: Tom | March 17, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Only 1260 more days to go till the end of this nightmare. Hopefully the 2010 elections will throw most of the idiots out (Frank, Pelosi, Reid) so that incompetent BO can be stopped before he does any more damage.

Posted by: Mike | March 17, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Professors and other ingrates running government. Great. What do they know about running a business??? Or do they enjoy feeding off of the NIH for their welfare checks? Upbeat tones/tenors mean nothing. the system is broken, we are in a depression, and yes the government is completely corrupt from top to bottom. The government only wants your money and they can get it by FORCE thanks to those scum in office. We are NOT living in a democracy–this is a socialist nation, a democratic republic, NOT a democracy kiddies.

Posted by: Jean Lee | March 17, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm

All of you “hate-mongers” are out of control. President Obama didn’t make this mess, Bush and his group did. President Obama is not going to be able to fix the “Bush” mess in 2 months when it took Bush and all that identify with him to make this mess.
Everyone that has a problem with “President” Obama needs a reality check. It has nothing to do with the fact that we have global problems in this economy, but, it has everything to do with the fact that he is “A BLACK MAN” running this country and you hate-mongers would rather go down with “YOUR” ship than be a part of the solution. You should be ashamed. Prejudice is still alive and well!

Posted by: Yvonne Carter | July 9, 2010, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

The attacks on McCain/Palin were justified….They are nothing more than an old “fuddy-duddy” and a “disfunctional female” in yet another family of disfunctional people. Always willing to pour salt. You people need to get it together and shut the hell up. You really have nothing to offer but poison and you are full of it. Who wants to hear anything you have to say? Not me! It makes me sick to my stomache to hear haters go on and on about “obama” when in all actually he should be referred to as President Obama and he hardly every has. So disrespectful. These kinds of statements come from the types of people that would cut the throats of their own parents and not think a thing of it. You won’t be happy until you GET YOUR WAY – AND YOU CAN FOLLOW ANOTHER UNDESIRABLE! President Obama stands on the side of “Equality” and “Justice” for ALL…..You don’t know that?

Posted by: Pleasantly..... | July 9, 2010, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

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