Mar 11, 2009 2:01pm

Obama & Earmarks: One Year Ago This Week

Then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., one year ago this week, swooped in from the campaign trail to — along with then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. — vote for an amendment to impose a one-year moratorium on earmarks for fiscal year 2009.

All three then-presidential candidates voted for the amendment,offered by Sen. Jim DeMint, R-SC.

It failed: 71 NAYs, 29 YEAs.

Candidate Obama said then "we can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress’ seniority, rather than the merit of the project. We can no longer accept an earmarks process that has become so complicated to navigate that a municipality or non-profit group has to hire high-priced D.C. lobbyists to do it. And we can no longer accept an earmarks process in which many of the projects being funded fail to address the real needs of our country."

Today, of course, President Obama will sign into law more than 8,000 earmarks for FY 2009, part of the $410 billion omnibus spending bill.

But he pledged to work with Congress to reform the earmark process:

* requiring Members of Congress to post earmark requests on their websites and subject them to hearings;

* subjecting earmarks for for-profit companies to a competitive bidding process; and

* pledging to remove future earmarks without any legitimate public purpose.

More on this issue tonight on World News with Charles Gibson.

– Jake Tapper and Yunji de Nies

User Comments

I believe very much in our new president and his administration, he, they have more (huge)issues,problems, conditions etc. to manage than any other new Presidency/Administration has had to deal with in modern history. Not only is the scope larger than the per verbal 800 pound gorilla, independently any one of these “problems” could derail our country for years, accumulate a few together & we could be sitting in the middle of the Great Depression II.
Given that the shear size and nature of these problems tend to feed each other and are self effacing to the point that they evolve at an exponential speed, our new administration is up to managing these tasks, and the administration is correct in addressing multipul fronts concurrently, because of the aforementioned evoloution and spped these issues are moving.
That said, I also believe that our new president is missing an opportunity with singing the operating budget just forwarded by Congress. There ARE earmarks within this budget that should be “returned to sender” postage due. Granted, one mans “pork” is another mans “stimulus” these “earmarks” by and large do not pass the smell test with respect to carrying any multiplier effect within the economy.
Also granted, most of this budget IS for true operational requirements that pay for the day to day operations of our government, even 8000 “earmarks” combined that will represent 2%-4% of the total spending is a large number.
And really more to the point, this is a great opportunity for Mr. Obama to walk the talk, support your campaign promise of reviewing this budget line by line, eliminate programs that do not function, reset spending to fully support those that do and eliminate the “earmarks” that do not pass the same level of scrutiny the “Stimulus Bill – Recovery Act” underwent.
We”eve got your back Mr. President, please take a little time with this budget, singe an emergency spending stop gap to keep the government functioning, return the budget to Congress with the directive to scrub it, reinstate the line item veto via Executive order and you will walk the talk with increasing your political capitol exponentially while doing what our country desperately needs.

Posted by: Darryl the Contractor | March 11, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

But he pledged to work with Congress to reform the earmark process:
Ummm, yeah, we’re gonna have to cancel that. It’s a waste of taxpayer dollars, you see.

Posted by: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg | March 11, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

More dishonest, cowardly rhetoric from the teleprompter guy! :(
It seems like Obama only cares about his/Pelosi’s ideological agenda and appearences! And, “the people” are only pawns in an arrogant, overreaching, palm-greasing agenda! :(
Oh, I am an Independent who has no admiration for the far-left or the far-right!

Posted by: aware2u | March 11, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Change you can NOT believe in

Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm

We already know BO’s stand on earmarks. He likes them. We know this because he just signed a spending bill with 8,500 of them in it. If he were serious about reforming this process, he would have vetoed the bill. He didn’t. Don’t tell me this was last year’s business, the signature on the bill making it law is Barack Obama’s signature not George Bush’s.

Posted by: jim | March 11, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

“…they have more (huge)issues,problems, conditions etc. to manage than any other new Presidency/Administration has had to deal with in modern history.”
Why, of course they do! No one else ever had to deal with things like major terrorist attacks, or collapsing banks, or anything like that!

Posted by: Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg | March 11, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Ironically, earmarks are fully transparent and traceable. Money that is not earmarked by congress is oftentimes passed to the executive branch where it is spent in secret. So the question should be: Should all money be earmarked for the sake of transparency and to prevent fraud? Secondly, earmarks account for 1% of government spending. The whole focus on earmarks is to make lawmakers look good, but getting rid of them will have little to no effect except to make government spending even more muddled. Listen to Ron Paul to understand more in depth.

Posted by: Huh | March 11, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Yes, words do matter. Except of course in the case of Obama. When will this man EVER be held to any of his pronouncements and promises? The MSM have let him slide and slide and slide. No reason to believe this will ever change, is there?

Posted by: Kat5 | March 11, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

An arrogant, obfuscating, dishonest coward will sign the bill. A man of authenticity and integrity will veto it!
Which one is Obama? :)

Posted by: aware2u | March 11, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

So Obama touted himself as a different kind of politician and is now showing his true colors. But no worries, most of the media will cover up for him.

Posted by: Manu | March 11, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

“Oh, I am an Independent who has no admiration for the far-left or the far-right!”
That you post nothing bu right wing screeds is purely coincidence.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

“But he pledged to work with Congress to reform the earmark process:
Ummm, yeah, we’re gonna have to cancel that. It’s a waste of taxpayer dollars, you see.”
Obama’s earmark reform is to make the process transparent and he has.
You can look up any earmark on a database on the OMB website.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

His words are generally the same the President says moving forward the process will change…..get over it…no lies here.
The real hypocrits are the ones crying about earmarks while their specific earmarks are still in the bill.

Posted by: next | March 11, 2009, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Remind me again of how the deficit will be halved…

Posted by: Broke | March 11, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

“The real hypocrits are the ones crying about earmarks while their specific earmarks are still in the bill.”
BINGO!

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Didn’t have enough guts to do the right thing–I guess it gets expensive paying off those that got him elected.

Posted by: sammy | March 11, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

From this blog:
“As you know, the Obama administration had nothing to do with these or any other provisions of that bill,” said Geithner in his letter. The same bill received veto threat from President Bush, so Democrats passed a temporary spending plan last year and delayed funding the government for this year until the new president took office.”

Posted by: Teri B. | March 11, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Yes, let’s fix that 1% of government spending. How about the other 99%. They argue about earmarks because it makes them look good and seem relevant. Earmarks are the least of our problems.

Posted by: Huh | March 11, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

WOW….where was the all of this whining when President Moron (Bush Jr.) was in office!
NEWSFLASH: President Moron didn’t start vetoing bills until 2006 after the Democrats took over the House and Senate.
But hey ya know I guess it’s a different story when your party got the boot by the citizens of this great country!
But it is funny watching them tear the hair out of their heads….LOL
Give it time both president and congress will curve the spending….from what I hear there are reforms in the process right now…however the MSM isn’t talking about it.
What will be interesting is how the Conservative/Republicans are going to handle that! Considering they were the biggest spenders over the last 16 yrs.

Posted by: Republicans are Clueless | March 11, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

Obama’s campaign lies and distortions as they are revealed in this issue of earmarks and also lobbyists, among so many others are being revealed. Unfortunately not quickly enough to save this economy.
Obama needs to have a non teleprompter press conference and answer, DIRECTLY, some very pertinent questions.
The public is entitled to hear from him in a setting that is not a one sided self-serving pronouncement, like a king.
Oh, I forgot, Obama is impotent without a teleprompter to help him with his answers.
I wonder how long it will take to find out if he has the nerve to answer questions at a press conference that does not have pre-determined q and a.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

Here in the US Virgin Islands we pay US Federal income tax but all the proceeds stay in the Territory for the use of the local government.
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I wonder how difficult it would be to arrange things similarly in the States. Instead of taxpayers sending the majority of their proceeds to DC and then turning around and hoping that their Congresscritters manage to get a significant portion of it back, we could simply decide that the individual States are better equipped to deal with their own finances, especially if those include most of what we currently pay the feds.
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The downside is of course that not only will the traditionally ‘red’ states suddenly have to match up their tax burdens to their spending needs, but National beat reporters will lose the ability to shake their heads disapprovingly over the process that every Congressman has to go through in order to prevent their constituents from being robbed blind.

Posted by: Paul Dirks | March 11, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

WOW….where was the all of this whining when President Moron (Bush Jr.) was in office!
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I recollect 8 years of non-stop whining and abuse. Where were you.
Also rehashing the past 8 years is irrelevant when discussing Obama lies.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Bo Needs to go
Alot better then a Falling down slurring drunk Of a President Bush, At least the Man can Speak Clearly and doesnt look like a Deer in Headlights When asked a Question!

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Bo Needs to go
Alot better then a Falling down slurring drunk Of a President Bush, At least the Man can Speak Clearly and doesnt look like a Deer in Headlights When asked a Question!
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Irrelevant distraction. The point here is Obama hiding. Obama is in office. Bush is gone.
Obama’s lies are the issue at hand.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Earmarks are a part of Congress’ power of the purse. Checks and balances. It is how they steer some of the public’s tax money back to their districts for public good. And in this particular bill, earmarks comprise 1% of the total spending. ONE PERCENT? Are you kidding me? This is an issue, why?

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

BO: Give it up. He won.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm

Obviously people here do not understand basic 7th grade civics.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

ONE PERCENT? Are you kidding me? This is an issue, why?
Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Mar 11, 2009 2:49:36 P
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No it is 2% and that represents 8 Billion dollars. That is an awful lot of taxpayers. While they plan to raise taxes. No way. This is not acceptable.
ONLY 8 Billion dollars? Is that your point?

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

BO: Give it up. He won.
Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Mar 11, 2009 2:50:22 PM
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I am sure that you would have made the same recommendation during the Bush years.
Being elected is not the same as a coronation. If he is lying and screwing up then we the people have a right to call him on it and demand an explanation.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

I am for all the earmarks we can get in Illinois. Our roads are crumbling, schools is disrepair. We have not had a capital improvement bill in 12 years. Hell yes we want earmarks!

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

No one in the media today has the stones Tapper has. Just today Barney Frank told Andrea Mitchell that the media is to blame for petty things like concentrating on various Obama officials tax problems – that is, people working for the IRS and the Treasury department. Frank blamed the media for covering it and Mitchell said “you’re right, we plead guilty”. She as actually ashamed that media folks sometimes do what they are told to do – report the truth!

Posted by: JDW | March 11, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Why, it’s as if we elected a President with no history of accomplishment at all!
But doesn’t he look good in a swimsuit?

Posted by: Log Cabin | March 11, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

BO NEEDS TO GO
Where was your Ranting for 8 Years when Bush and Republicans were going on an EARMARK SPREE? Did Bush Veto anything Republican congress sent his Way NO! But he did Veto the Democrats When they took over Congress, and I can tell you Republican earmarks Under Bush was way more then 1%

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

At least the Man can Speak Clearly and doesnt look like a Deer in Headlights When asked a Question!
Angie
He sleeps with his teleprompter. The man can’t think on his feet.

Posted by: Betsy | March 11, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

BO NEEDS TO GO
Sometimes Earmarks are Not Bad it depends where the Money is being Spent. President Obama did not lie This was Left Over Bussiness from Last year once again Bushes Mess. he is now Putting together Ways to stop BAD EARMARK SPENDING!

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

please take a little time with this budget, singe an emergency spending stop gap to keep the government functioning, return the budget to Congress with the directive to scrub it, reinstate the line item veto via Executive order and you will walk the talk with increasing your political capitol exponentially while doing what our country desperately needs.
Darryl
thanks

Posted by: betsy | March 11, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

Betsy
Some more Fox news Trash The Man is More Intelligent Then W Ever dreamed Bush was a complete Idiot the Only he became President was because of DADDY!

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm

Just this one last spending bender! C’mon! Just one more, then I’m done. I’m done! I’ll quit spending. I can quit anytime! I don’t need your help! Now gimmie the pen. GIVE IT TO ME!

Posted by: Barry the Lightworker | March 11, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Obama: “we can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress’ seniority, rather than the merit of the project. We can no longer accept an earmarks process that has become so complicated to navigate that a municipality or non-profit group has to hire high-priced D.C. lobbyists to do it. And we can no longer accept an earmarks process in which many of the projects being funded fail to address the real needs of our country.”
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Earmarks are an issue because Obama made them an issue. And he won.

Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm

Lie: a deliberate untruth. Specify.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Let’s see if Congress can live up to his expectation about full hearings on earmarks, with Reps. and Senators forced to defend them before they are included.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Obama is treated so unfairly:
If Bush signs a bill, it’s called a budget bill.
If Obama signs a bill, it is called a spending bill.
If Bush starts a war, it’s called defending your country.
If Obama starts a war, it’s a distraction.
If Bush passes a tax cut, it’s called passionate converseratism
If Obama passes a tax cut, nobody says anything.

Posted by: reason | March 11, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

“Earmarks are an issue because Obama made them an issue. And he won.”
Actually both candidates made them an issue but especially the Republicans with the staunch anti earmarker McCain and the inflated resume of Palin.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

Mad: you are exactly right and so was Obama when he made those statements. Now we will see if Congress can step up.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Let’s see if Congress can live up to his expectation about full hearings on earmarks, with Reps. and Senators forced to defend them before they are included.
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The hearings need to be televised in primetime.

Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

The negative commenters ARE aware that eliminating the earmarks in this bill would not save any money, right? Earmarking funds just specifies where exactly that part of the budget will go. Earmark reform will probably make the process more public, but congress will never eliminate earmarks entirely, because they serve a purpose for taxpayers in their states who want some say in how federal money is spent.

Posted by: Jo | March 11, 2009, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Paul Dirks:
“Here in the US Virgin Islands we pay US Federal income tax but all the proceeds stay in the Territory for the use of the local government.
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I wonder how difficult it would be to arrange things similarly in the States.”
Here’s an idea–instead of the feds collecting taxes and sending them BACK to the states (which they already do quite a bit via community development block grants), cut taxes and let the states collect what they require, and leave the feds to pay for things of truly NATIONAL significance.

Posted by: John F. | March 11, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

Sometimes Earmarks are Not Bad it depends where the Money is being Spent. President Obama did not lie This was Left Over Bussiness from Last year once again Bushes Mess. he is now Putting together Ways to stop BAD EARMARK SPENDING!
Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | Mar 11, 2009 2:59:16 PM
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This about Obama. He deliberately misled about his position on earmarks in order to compete with McCain’s position of ending earmarks entirely. Even liberal Chris Matthews interpreted the full extent of his remarks over time that way. We can parse language and claim yes indeed he did not say EXACTLY that. Well hallelujah, I bet he is having a good laugh on pulling the wool over our eyes on this one.
Like Clinton “It depends on what the meaning of the word is is”
He makes slick willie look like a novice.
Where does the confirmation of the great Obama IQ and intellect come from? Prove it.
Everyone claimed Kerry was so much smarter, Gore was so much smarter but the test scores ended up proving otherwise. Kerry had lower scores on Military entrance exams, as verified by Tom Brokaw, and Gore had lower SAT scores, and he flunked out of divinity school.
Prove it if you think Obama is so smart. He certainly isn’t releasing any college records or test scores. How could you possibly know. Saying it doesn’t make it so.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

And even with the teleprompter they make gaffes.
The Obama administration is a joke.
One term.

Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

Obama the Fraud strikes again!
He said he would have no lobbyists
in his administration yet the president
has granted several wavers to selected
lobbyists to join his team.
He opposes earmarks but he will only
oppose them after he signs the
omnibus bill with almost 9,000 earmarks!
those of you who voted for Obama got
conned by the biggest flim-flam man
in U.S, History!
Now we’re all stuck with this Phoney
at least until 2012!

Posted by: reaganfan | March 11, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Angie:
“At least the Man can Speak Clearly and doesnt look like a Deer in Headlights When asked a Question!”
You obviously have not seen him answer questions off the cuff w/o a teleprompter.

Posted by: John F. | March 11, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

Reaganfan: 3 waivers out of 800 appointments! Are you kidding me? How many lobbyists worked in the Reagan administration?

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm

William J. LePetomayne:
“I am for all the earmarks we can get in Illinois. Our roads are crumbling, schools is disrepair. We have not had a capital improvement bill in 12 years. Hell yes we want earmarks!”
Then get your state legislature to work–its not for my tax dollars to pay for Illinois roads and schools–those are local matters (with the exception of Interstate highways).

Posted by: John F. | March 11, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

“You obviously have not seen him answer questions off the cuff w/o a teleprompter.”
He was in over 25 debates and has held a dozen or so press conferences.
He’s just fine off the cuff.
Right wingers are just embarrassed to see such a gifted speaker follow up their guy who could not pronounce the word nuclear.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

earmarks smearmarks…..

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

The negative commenters ARE aware that eliminating the earmarks in this bill would not save any money, right? Earmarking funds just specifies where exactly that part of the budget will go. Earmark reform will probably make the process more public, but congress will never eliminate earmarks entirely, because they serve a purpose for taxpayers in their states who want some say in how federal money is spent.
Posted by: Jo | Mar 11, 2009 3:07:54 PM
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That is in fact not true. Each item would have to go through committee for approval. There is no guarantee they would be approved as many are special interest and kickback projects and the sponsors don’t want to have to explain them.
7th grade civics will tell you that there is no reason to presume this excess spending would end up in the regular budget, and good reason to presume it would not.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

John F
As a maater of fact I have seen Obama I went to One of his Rallies in Philly and he had no teleprompter

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

As far as I’m concerned, he is nothing but a great speaker… and won the highest office on promises he never intended to keep! You don’t promise change and still continue to push through bills at the expense of the taxpayer. . He is just like every other politician except that his true job now, is to defend the actions for all the other good ole boys! President Obama , get some backbone and remember who elected you on the campaign of “change”.

Posted by: odoris | March 11, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

Republicans remember
WWRD
What Would Rush Do.
Stay on message guys and gals.

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm

While I lament the loss of prosperity in the marketplace and the freedoms we had, I honestly cannot wait until the lefties see what a stupid move they made choosing this socialist for President. Socialism destroys all that is good. It creates a two class system: The ruling elite who line their pockets at will and the rest of the population who end up living in poverty because all incentive and ambition are destroyed. You see…when you take away from those who are productive, they stop producing…and soon there is less and less and less available for everyone. So, the poor will be much poorer when this is all done.

Posted by: JBC | March 11, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

It has 9000 EARMARKS

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

John F: OF COURSE a certain amount of federal tax money comes back to the states! Wake up.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

What’s a bill without a nice tasty earmark in it…. come on guys. George Bush made earmarks famous.

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm

Obama is now officially a liar. A principled man would have vetoed the bill.
Everything else he’s signed has been accompanied by unending hoopla but this time he hides.
When will America learn?

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

If Obama passes a tax cut, nobody says anything.
What tax cut?????? All I see is increase $1.00 here $1.00 there.

Posted by: Lizzie | March 11, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU POINT FINGERS
On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: “I certainly hope he doesn’t succeed.”
Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.
In 2006, 51 percent of Democrats wanted Bush to fail.

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Right Wingers are Just Jealous of President Obama because he is a Great speaker He is Inspiring, unlike the Former Drunk, or your Canidate Mccain who couldnt even Name how Many homes he has, And Admitted He doesnt Know about the Economy,Computer,Dont hate Appreciate you Finally have some Intelligence in the White House. I know your Use to the Stupidty of W LOLOLOL HAHAH

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

“Prove it if you think Obama is so smart.”
He graduated magne cum laude from Harvard Law and was named head of the Harvard law Review. He then went on to teach constitutional law at the Univ of Chicago.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

osted by: Omentum | Mar 11, 2009 3:17:55 PM
I love the smell of moral equivalence in the afternoon.
Bush did not promise to eliminate earmarks, Obama did.
Are you lefties going to use Bush to measure Obama now?
Seriously????

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

“On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: “I certainly hope he doesn’t succeed.”"
Bill Sammon’s bs remind me of the tale of the lie traveling the world twice before the truth even gets out of bed.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:12:29 PM
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Just because you don’t want to hear it doesn’t make it a lie.
As I said , even Chris Matthew, the most liberal democrat, Jimmy Carter’s press secretary, interpreted the full breadth of Obama’s statements on earmarks to mean an end to them.
If Obama had a good laugh because he fooled us on that one well what can I say.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Got now complaints from you when dubya signed the bridge to nowhere bill.
How long will you all be hypocrits.
These earmarks were in this bill when dubya was in office and the hypocrits (vitter) is talking out the side of his neck.

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

If Bush passes a tax cut, it’s called passionate converseratism
If Obama passes a tax cut, nobody says anything.
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of course no one would ever say anything if obama passed a tax cut, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!

Posted by: DJ | March 11, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

If the money was given out to each family with all the stimulus money. Each family would have received
$18,000.

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

“an end to earmarks” LOL. How incredibly naive.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | Mar 11, 2009 3:19:18 PM
Obama can’t change his underwear without a teleprompter. Did you, um, uh, hear him, uh sp-sp-sp-sp speaking to the, um, uh reporter about not being an um,um,um,uh socialist?

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

“7th grade civics will tell you that there is no reason to presume this excess spending would end up in the regular budget, and good reason to presume it would not.”
Maybe you should have taken civics beyond the 7th grade level.
Because making earmarks out to be the problem of excess spending is laughable.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

He graduated magne cum laude from Harvard Law and was named head of the Harvard law Review. He then went on to teach constitutional law at the Univ of Chicago.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:19:29 PM

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

He graduated magne cum laude from Harvard Law and was named head of the Harvard law Review. He then went on to teach constitutional law at the Univ of Chicago.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:19:29 PM

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

Angie in PA
No, just trying to set the record straight.

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

“of course no one would ever say anything if obama passed a tax cut, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!”
It already did happen.
Millions of workers would soon see an extra $13 in their weekly paychecks and thousands of small businesses operating in the red could get tax refunds under the economic recovery bill nearing completion in Congress. Businesses won’t fare as well as they did in earlier versions of the legislation. But most of the tax cuts for families and individuals were preserved, though some were reduced.
There are tax breaks for low-income families with children; college students; first-time homebuyers; people who buy new automobiles; and those collecting unemployment benefits.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

DRJOHN
yum yum yum Yes Like I said I have Been to an Obama Rally in Philly and their was NO TELEPROMTER! Its better then Seein Bush stare into space with that ugly grin Shrugging His shoulders FACE IT W WAS AN IDIOT The only reason he became President was because of DADDY!

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | Mar 11, 2009 3:23:32 PM
Heck, let’s see ANYTHING from Columbia.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

“Prove it if you think Obama is so smart.”
He graduated magne cum laude from Harvard Law and was named head of the Harvard law Review. He then went on to teach constitutional law at the Univ of Chicago.
Posted by: Ryan C
—————————–
And Bill Gates dropped out of college. And if I remember right, Warren Buffet never even went to colleg

Posted by: DJ | March 11, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | Mar 11, 2009 3:25:35 PM
Were you at the rally when Obama suggested treating asthma with a breathalyzer?

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

LOL, so what do you think happened, BO? Obama bluffed his way past the graduate school admission office at Harvard to get enrolled? Faked his way on to the Law Review? Dummied-up some transcripts so he could hired as a law prof at the U of C? Get real. What were Bush’s transcripts? How do we know if he even graduated?

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

William J. LePetomane:
Just because some federal money comes back to states doesn’t make earmarks or pork a good thing. People like the idea of paying for local interest projects because they feel that somebody ELSE will pay for it. Obviously, everybody can’t have somebody ELSE pay for local projects, with the result that we all pay for local projects that local residents didn’t feel strongly enough to support with their own tax dollars. Further, the more tax dollars that flow through Washington only to be returned to localities, the more opportunity their is for control by and corruption of congress, not to mention the “adminstrative fee” that gets skimmed off the tax dollars before being sent back to the states. Of course I recognize that federal money is spent in states, but that doesn’t mean more of it is a good idea.

Posted by: John F. | March 11, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Because making earmarks out to be the problem of excess spending is laughable.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:23:26 PM
————–
Obama made them the issue and he lied, distorted and whatever else you call it to help win the election. It is called an election conversion.
Laugh at Obama if you don’t think this is an issue.
We are discussing his shifting positions on this.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

Jo,
The point is that, but for the earmarked projects, the budgets allocated to each agency and division thereof would be less (i.e.,. the desire to fund the earmarked projects is what drives the total cost of the bill up). So, yes, eliminating earmarks would “save money.”

Posted by: MSR | March 11, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm

“Of course, Ryan. Only you tell the truth.”
I make every attempt to post facts.
You and the other wingers parroting right wing talking points don’t waste time with such endeavors.
After all the facts will undercut the talking point and you can’t have that.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

“of course no one would ever say anything if obama passed a tax cut, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!”
It already did happen.
Millions of workers would soon see an extra $13 in their weekly paychecks
——————————-
define soon? I haven’t seen it yet

Posted by: DJ | March 11, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

“of course no one would ever say anything if obama passed a tax cut, BECAUSE THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!”
It already did happen.
Millions of workers would soon see an extra $13 in their weekly paychecks
——————————-
define soon? I haven’t seen it yet

Posted by: DJ | March 11, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Mar 11, 2009 3:27:17 PM
So it’s official.
You guys are using Bush as the yardstick for Obama.
Cool.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

Why do I think we will not see this story on the evening news!!

Posted by: Don Politico | March 11, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

I did not vote for Bush either time.
Bush was not a good president and Obama will not be either.
Bush and Obama both attended Ivy League schools for undergraduate and graduate work.
The statement that someone is smart just because of the schools they attended is asinine and an insult to the person you are supposedly defending.
Both Obama and Bush show ignorance of and there are plenty of examples. Obama misuse of the term P/E and comparatively George Bush’s total ignorance of the English language. Obama did not know what a price-earnings ratio which is proof of his incompetence in understanding how the private sector and the stock market work.
You cannot ask who had a higher GPA: Obama or Bush, as Obama will not release his Columbia records.

Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm

DR John
No I was not But Some forms of Ashtma Can be treated With a breath Alyzer My son has Asthma so quit Being stupid!

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

“Bill Sammon’s bs remind me of the tale of the lie traveling the world twice before the truth even gets out of bed.”
You mean these kinds of facts, Ryan?

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Here you go ANGIE
Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail
The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.
By Bill Sammon
Wednesday, March 11, 2009
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On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: “I certainly hope he doesn’t succeed.”
Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.
“We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I’m wanting them to turn against him,” Greenberg admitted.

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

drjohn: no contest. LOL. Using a yardstick to measure Bush v. Obama would be like measuring Vern Troyer v. Manute Bol.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

“Earmarks are a part of Congress’ power of the purse. Checks and balances. It is how they steer some of the public’s tax money back to their districts for public good.”
Exactly. Are all earmarks good? Who know – it’s in the eye of the beholder, isn’t. One person’s “pork” may be another congressional district’s essential highway project that repairs infrastructure, improves the flow of traffic and creates jobs. I agree that the process should be more transparent and fair. So does Obama…and he co-sponsored legislation while in the Senate to make the process more transparent. As president, he has promised to take that a step further and he started that process today. But Obama can’t dictate these rules to Congress – that is not within the power of the executive branch. The legislative branch is granted the constitutional power to appropriate funds, not the president. The only power he has when it comes to spending bills is that of the veto pen. He needs to work WITH Congress and negotiate with them in order to get earmark reform in place. Using his veto power to reject an omnibus spending bill that was a) already late and b) authored mostly before he was even elected president would not have bought him the good will he needs among members of congress to get this necessary reform put in place. It’s a give and take and Obama has to play, for lack of a better word, the game. He’s not a king. Congress doesn’t work for or answer to him. He’s now laid out what he wants. Congress is on notice. If he uses his veto pen on future spending bills that contain superfluous earmarks, he can tell Congress, “Don’t say I didn’t warn you.” And when I say Congress, I mean both sides of the aisle – earmarks are popular among the membership of both parties. And if Congress does agree to put the reform steps Obama outlined in place, there will be more transparency, which will cut down on the number of “bridge to nowhere” earmarks contained in spending bills. (although I’m sure the residents of Ketchikan, AK, didn’t think the Gravina Island Bridge project was so horrible – again, “pork” is in the eye of the beholder)

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Four states have more than 10% unemployment based on January numbers.
California
South Carolina
Michigan
Rhode Island
The national average is just over 8%.
Let’s hope things trend differently very soon.

Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

LOL, so what do you think happened, BO? Obama bluffed his way past the graduate school admission office at Harvard to get enrolled?
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Glad you asked. Obama was attending Occidental College and was sponsored by Khalid Al Mansour for admission to Harvard, we don’t know what the other criteria for his acceptance was, or if this was enough.
Here is an excerpt in the words of the person who wrote the actual letter to help Obama get in. I hope this doesn’t surprise you . If it does you need to rethink who this guy is.
“Percy Sutton, the former borough president of Manhattan, off-handedly revealed the unusual circumstances about his first encounter with the young Obama.
This is an excerpt from an interview on you tube.
“I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him,” Sutton told NY1 city hall reporter Dominic Carter.
“The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas,” Sutton said. “He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men. He told me about Obama.”
Sutton, the founder of Inner City Broadcasting, said al-Mansour contacted him to ask a favor: Would Sutton write a letter in support of Obama’s application to Harvard Law School?
“He wrote to me about him,” Sutton recalled. “And his introduction was there is a young man that has applied to Harvard. I know that you have a few friends up there because you used to go up there to speak. Would you please write a letter in support of him?”
Sutton said he acted on his friend al-Mansour’s advice.
“I wrote a letter of support of him to my friends at Harvard, saying to them I thought there was a genius that was going to be available and I certainly hoped they would treat him kindly,” Sutton told NY1.
Sutton did not say why al-Mansour was helping Obama, how he discovered him, or from whom he was raising money on Obama’s behalf.
End excerpt.
Look it up if you don’t believe it.
Lastly I do believe Obama edited the law review but has anyone seen anything he has written?
Bush went to Yale and that did not convince any dems of anything.

Posted by: MNM | March 11, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Should have read:
“Who knowS – it’s in the eye of the beholder, isn’t IT?”

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

OMENTUM
Ha Ha Pretty Funny the Right Wingers are Bashing Everything President Obama does and their Party doesnt Even have a real LEADER The party is Lost and the RNC Is trying to Get Mcsteele to step down hahahaha lolololol hahahahah

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Mar 11, 2009 3:31:53 PM
So that’s why you keep bringing up what Bush did as justification for Obama’s deceits?

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

“He then went on to teach constitutional law at the Univ of Chicago.”
Ryan C you are always calling people liars but you seem to have a problem with basic facts.
Obama claimed he was a professor of constitutional law but that in itself was a lie. He was basically a TA in one class and as so often in Obama resume he promoted himself to Constitutional Law professor.
Sort of like, you no doubt believe that Obama toiled for years as a “community organizer” despite the fact that he quit after less than 2 years nearly 20 years ago. Or how about that he was a “civil right’s attorney” despite the fact that he quit or was retired by his law firm after less than 3 years nearly 15 years ago? He handled NO successful civil rights cases and virtually NO cases at all?
Before calling people liars perhaps you should concern yourself with your own behavior.

Posted by: LogicalUS | March 11, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

MNM: This may come as a surprise to you, but many colleges and universities REQUIRE letters of reference as a part of the admission process. So your point is? What, exactly?

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

“That is what Obama said. Lets see the documentation of the Magne.”
ROFLMAO!
“Obama also claimed he served on the finance committee which was untrue.”
So what right wing talking point is this?

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

I was actually concerned that Obama might actually surprise everybody and veto the bill, which would have instantly boosted his credibility and burnished his claim to be a new kind of politician. I truly believe that public opinion would have been so high that he could have overcome any ill will from Pelosi/Reid (except for the fact that I think he is afraid of Pelosi).

Posted by: John F. | March 11, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Jim Jones was Bay Area (CA) lefty favorite & new age wonder – there ( when still in Oakland/SF area of CA) and even when some early wacko signs made some look askance at this ‘new type of leader’ (even after he moved out of the USA). But after the final Kool-Aid drink-up this was all conveniently forgotten, certainly in our objective media (I had never know this fact until stumbled into it recently reading 70s/80s Bay Area news reports). Just like James Carville wishing then President 43 failed totally (irony of ironies – on 9/11 no less was when his stratagem & objective were clearly noted but conveniently forgotten & never reported by the media). A Taleban was GITMO-released (unanimously by panel during GWB tenure) and apparently he likely had been a Northern Alliance Front Commander & deadly bomb specialist but now leading Taleban against UK forces in UK. But get this >>> most UK blogger & commenters support the Taleba guy stating stuff like you would go back and “defend your country from occupation”, or after you were tortured by Bush/Cheney for 6 years you would go back & fight, or GITMO was one big concentration camp where he learned to become a killer. There are no facts to support the claims of torture, or about Bush/Cheney or concentration camp …. None! But, just as Cheney made millions off of Iraq war (twice in the last month I had to challenge this nonsensical charge with a demand for proof) they get repeated in the fetid echo chambers of the super lefty hate anything that construe crazy comments about all those facist Republican, Bush/Cheney right wing US Constitution destroyers.
You ask why I started this comment regarding Jim Jones & drinking Kool-Aid – because it seems that political fantasies and delusion are the anchor of the ultra-left. We must break into Sarah Palin’s e-mails (official &/or private) to show the world the monster she is, we must release all the credit card information about Sen Coleman (MN) contributors so they can be attacked, we must spread big lies about Bush/Cheney/Republicans so people start to believe that & worse, Joe the plumber must have his personal State data ‘released’ into public domain to trash him, and on & on. So many wanting drinkers – so little Kool-Aid.

Posted by: Reaction To Closed Minds | March 11, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

No I was not But Some forms of Ashtma Can be treated With a breath Alyzer My son has Asthma so quit Being stupid!
—————————————
Angie, a breathalyzer is used to measure alcohol intake.

Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

The problem with earmarks is that they lack transparency. They usually just inserted without public debate, without looking into conflicts of interest, etc. So, I agree that Congress has power over spending, but spending should be done PUBLICLY and not as a process of special favors. If earmarks were so great — why did Obama make that speech? Why did his fans cheer him? And why my fellow Democrats bash Palin for her earmarks?

Posted by: angry democrat | March 11, 2009, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm

“As I said , even Chris Matthew, the most liberal democrat, Jimmy Carter’s press secretary, interpreted the full breadth of Obama’s statements on earmarks to mean an end to them.”
Dude, using Chris Matthew’s an “even so-and-so said…” in an argument with liberals isn’t a winning strategy. Most liberals abhor Matthews and think he’s an obnoxious windbag, regardless of who he worked for in the past or which way he leans politically.

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

OMENTUM
Ha Ha Pretty Funny the Right Wingers are Bashing Everything President Obama does and their Party doesnt Even have a real LEADER The party is Lost and the RNC Is trying to Get Mcsteele to step down hahahaha lolololol hahahahah
Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | Mar 11, 2009 3:35:57 PM
===========================
hilarious
How about getting your own house together before questioning someone else’s
I would think they would notice how stupid that looks for them to point the finger and they are in the “political time-out” corner.
wow what authority they bring to the discussion. hahahahaha

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Angie: Actually the Republicans DO have a leader. He proclaimed himself so. Rush Limpballs.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

When Obama campaigned is was going to abolish
all earmarks and now he says they are good. Which one is it

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:39:00 PM
What Obama falsely claimed was being on the Senate Banking Committee.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Should have read:
“Dude, using Chris Matthews AS an “even so-and-so said…” EXAMPLE…”
Man, I’m full of typos today. Have to slow down…

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Mar 11, 2009 3:41:25 PM
Stupefyingly clever.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

“When Obama campaigned is was going to abolish
all earmarks and now he says they are good. Which one is it?”
Obama never said that. Try again.

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Thanks drjohn: was not sure you’d get it.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Angie you seem bitter, and angry.
Posted by: jane | Mar 11, 2009 3:39:30 PM
================
I will vouch for Angie. She is overjoyed right now. Overjoyed to see a president who can multitask – not like dubya the one trick pony.
Go Angie
Go Angie
YES WE CAN
YES WE CAN

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm

Lastly I do believe Obama edited the law review but has anyone seen anything he has written?
Posted by: MNM | Mar 11, 2009 3:34:51 PM
=====
MNM, This is a known known fact that PB0 wrote nor contributed zero articles or editorials or comments by Editor in Chief for his own magazine.
It is a known known of his trail of records throughout his adult life: 0.
Yet, these were all acceptable and another beer-drinking buddy, incompetent prez was elected, right after the same failures of GW Bush.

Posted by: kat | March 11, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm

Republican Senators, Congressman, Governors all cower in fear of offending the Great Rush, their hero and party leader.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm

yes, Kat. HIS TWO BOOKS!

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

“What Obama falsely claimed was being on the Senate Banking Committee.”
You mean when he misspoke while talking about a bill he had intro’d that passed the committee?

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Obama also promised “a new kind of politics” and already has attacked Limbaugh and now targets Kantor.
Outstanding.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Ryan C you are SOOOOO Wrong

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Oh, and I suppose Rush NEVER attacks anyone? LOL

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Dude, using Chris Matthew’s an “even so-and-so said…” in an argument with liberals isn’t a winning strategy. Most liberals abhor Matthews and think he’s an obnoxious windbag, regardless of who he worked for in the past or which way he leans politically.
Posted by: OGLiberal | Mar 11, 2009 3:41:09 PM
————-
You claimed right wingers lie. Looks like a left winger agrees with us and Warren Buffett and now Howard Fineman and so on.
It isn’t the right wingers lying.
I would suggest someone else is distorting and distracting from the basic fact about Obama lying about earmarks, not to mention the lobbyist thing.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:46:26 PM
Forgot the teleprompter, did he?

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

Very correct indeed Kat.

Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Mar 11, 2009 3:47:33 PM
Billy, you’re doing it again!
You need to stop that moral equivalence stuff.
Limbaugh didn’t promise the new kind of politics. Obama did.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

“Republican Senators, Congressman, Governors all cower in fear of offending the Great Rush, their hero and party leader.”
No one is more afraid of Limbaugh than Obama. That’s why Obama felt the need to attack Limbaugh.
He’s scared like a little girl.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

“So, I agree that Congress has power over spending, but spending should be done PUBLICLY and not as a process of special favors.”
Obama co-sponsored legislation while in the Senate with Tom Coburn that increased the transparency of the earmark process. That legislation was ultimately passed by Congress. He’s now asking Congress to make the process even more transparent. But he can’t force them to do that…he has to work with them to get them to do it.
“And why my fellow Democrats bash Palin for her earmarks?”
Because she tried to paint herself out to be the queen of reform and the enemy of big government when her state is perennially the largest recipient per capita of federal funds, including tons of earmarks. Hypocrisy, thy name is Palin.
And before y’all even bother to respond, let me save you the energy and post a response for you:
“And Obama isn’t a hypocrite? Why did he sign this bill when he said during the campaign that he hated every single earmark and was going to use his super ray gun to destroy them all.”

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Obama did not write anything that was published in the Harvard Law Review.

Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

yes, Kat. HIS TWO BOOKS!
Posted by: William J. LePetomane | Mar 11, 2009 3:46:16 PM
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Yes he did . Two autobiographies and nothing else. NO legislation no nothing. He does know how to go on and on about himself though.

Posted by: MNM | March 11, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm

JANE
Im not Bitter and Angry, I finally have a President who can Multi-Task,Speak with Intelligence,Cares about this Country and what is Going on, OH AND MY BAD For the Breath alyzer! I Meant Nebulizer I APOLOGIZE I mis spoke But I guess your Not aloud to make A mistake the Right wingers are Perfect!

Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 11, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

“No one is more afraid of Limbaugh than Obama. That’s why Obama felt the need to attack Limbaugh.”
ROFLMAO!
Naaah all he did was throw red meat in the ring of circling wolves that was the GOP party post election blow out and watch them do what they do naturally.
Steele got emasculated and the face of the GOP is an offensive loudmouth.
2010 is gonna be fun.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm

“We can no longer accept a process that doles out earmarks based on a member of Congress’ seniority”
Yes, we can.

Posted by: Mister Snitch | March 11, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm

When both Steve Forbes and Warren Buffett tell you you’re on the wrong track, you’re on the wrong track.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

I know they wrote about this on hot air but try thinking for yourself for once.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:53:03 PM
——–
Do you deliberately miss the point or are you truly unable to get it.
YOU CLAIMED RIGHT WINGERS LIE. I USED MATTHEWS, BUFFET AND FINEMAN AS EXAMPLES OF MAINSTREAM PROMINENT LIBERALS WHO AGREE THAT OBAMA AT BEST MISLED AND AT WORST LIED ABOUT EARMARKS. THIS IS A POSITION SHARED BY “RIGHT WINGERS AND LIBERALS”
I HOPE YOU GET THE POINT THIS TIME. IT ISN’T SO DIFFICULT UNLESS YOU SIMPLY WANT TO ATTACK INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH THE ISSUE.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm

“NO legislation no nothing.”
Barack Obama has sponsored 121 bills between Jan 24, 2005. and Sep 29, 2008. of which 115 haven’t made it out of committee and 3 were successfully enacted. Obama has co-sponsored 506 bills during the same time period.
Sponsor equal wrote legislation.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Here’s a suggestion to Obama supporters: whenever His Majesty appears on TV, tape a sign with the following words underneath the screen:
EVERYTHING THIS MAN SAYS HAS A SHELF-LIFE.

Posted by: MarkJ | March 11, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 3:55:31 PM
Axelrod specifically approved the Limbaugh pogrom. The same for Kantor.
Once more you’re subsituting your wishes for facts.
It was a particularly stupid thing to do as it has empowered Limbaugh and raised his ratings.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

“Right wingers are just embarrassed to see such a gifted speaker follow up their guy who could not pronounce the word nuclear.”
LOL…Ryan your all over this site and every post your crying about talking points. This one is left over from the 2000 election!
By the way, try lisitening to Barney Frank, or Ted Kennedy before you criticize others!
Instead of being a talking point, why haven’t you said anything about the fact Obama is bailing once again on his own set of rules/policies.
I wont repost Tapper’s intro, but he made no attempt push any of these earmark reforms.
I am not one who thinks earmarks need to be totally eliminated, just vetted.
The old process was abused by memebers from both parties! This should be an issue we agree on !

Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

Sponsor equal wrote legislation.
Uh, no it doesn’t.

Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

“It was a particularly stupid thing to do as it has empowered Limbaugh and raised his ratings.”
Of course it empowered Limbaugh.
That was the point.
Set that egomaniac loose as head of the party and what the GOP implode.
Who cares if his ratings go up?

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

“The old process was abused by memebers from both parties! This should be an issue we agree on !”
It should be which is why your lying about the issue makes no sense.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

I have a meeting, yes work to do in the real world. I love being a business owner and having the luxury of working when I choose. I thank God for my fortune and have not been bothered much by the recession.
Obama is incompetent and will serve one term in office.

Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

dr john – Don’t forget to add Jack Welch

Posted by: jane | March 11, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Opposing earmarks is racist.

Posted by: malclave | March 11, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

If the truth be truly known, in most cases aides write the actual wording of the legislation, so arguing about who “wrote” or did not “write” legislation is stupid.

Posted by: William J. LePetomane | March 11, 2009, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

“You claimed right wingers lie.”
Um, I’m not the guy who is appending that to all of his post, although I can’t say I totally disagree with the statement, especially given the large number of posters here who continue to state incorrectly that Obama said all earmarks are bad and that he was going to eliminate them all. (which would be tough given that the executive branch has no power to change the earmark/budgeting process or eliminate earmarks altogether)
Warren Buffett also said that the GOP needs to start working with Obama, not just against. And I don’t know which way Howard Fineman leans politically but I couldn’t care less what he thinks. That goes for just about every TV talking head or establishment journalist. Fineman’s most recent article – and I assume you saw Drudge’s link – was about how Obama is still popular with voters but there are doubts growing among the “establishment”. I could give a flying you-know-what about what the “establishment” thinks – and I think many Americans would agree.

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

“CLEARLY YOU WON’T DEAL WITH THE ISSUE. THE TAPE CHANGES NOTHING.”
So the evidence that was supposed to support your claims means nothing.
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Re read the post Ryan . I said changes nothing, NOT means nothing, as you likely know.

Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

Obama is articulate and can multi-task . Unfortunately very little of what he so artfully articulates is true and the tasks he deems important don’t seem to include fixing the economy .

Posted by: mr burns | March 11, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm

2012 IS GOING TO BE EVEN BETTER THAT 2010.

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Every Democrat thinks spending others money for wasteful projects is the way to freedom and prosperity.

Posted by: thomas | March 11, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

Then-Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., one year ago this week, swooped in from the campaign trail to — along with then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. — vote for an amendment to impose a one-year moratorium on earmarks for fiscal year 2009.
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I’m surprised all the earmark fans we have here even voted for Obama after he voted for this earmark moratorium.

Posted by: MayBee | March 11, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm

Hey Jake,
Thanks for the awesome job you did helping get this disaster elected!!!

Posted by: Nonnie | March 11, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

“I’m surprised all the earmark fans we have here even voted for Obama after he voted for this earmark moratorium.”
I can’t speak for everybody here but I’m not here because I’m a fan of “earmarks”. I don’t hate them and would argue that they can sometimes be worthy and effective. The process, however, could be better and more transparent. Obama took steps as a senator to make it more transparent and is now asking Congress to take it a step further. But that’s just it – as president, all he can do is ask Congress to change/improve the process. As a Senator, he could actually co-sponsor legislation to make it happen, he could vote in support of such legislation. Remember, when Obama cast that vote last year, he was a senator, not president. The only thing he could have done with this bill was veto the whole thing. You may think that would have been a wise course of action but I disagree. The veto pen should be used rarely and wisely. You pick and choose your battles as president – this wasn’t worth the fight with Congress.
My biggest problem with many folks here on this board is that they are making false claims about what Obama has said about earmarks. He has never said they are all bad and he never said that he wants to get rid of all earmarks permanently. He said and continues to state that he would like to see the process further improved, especially in the area of transparency.

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm

OGLiberal, actually, some of us Republicans actually subscribe to Newsweek (although I sometimes wonder why I bother) and can read Mr. Fineman’s words “in the original.” I saw it without benefit of following some link from Drudge, thanks. Not that I’m a Fineman fan or agree with most of what he rights, but for what it’s worth, I’ve been reading him for years.

Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

“The old process was abused by memebers from both parties! This should be an issue we agree on !”
It should be which is why your lying about the issue makes no sense.
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Ryan C
Lying? …exactly how? For someone who whines constantly here about talking points, that is all you ever say.

Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

All of Obama’s promises come with an expiration date and a ton of excuses.

Posted by: Jb | March 11, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

“Right Wingers are Just Jealous of President Obama because he is a Great speaker He is Inspiring”
Yeah, he’s inspired Americans to pull their money out of the market and put it into canned goods.

Posted by: JB | March 11, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm

But that’s just it – as president, all he can do is ask Congress to change/improve the process
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Wrong.
He can veto bloated bills that crop up in the middle of an economic crisis for which we are already going to be struggling to pay.
That would not only have saved the taxpayers on this bill, it would have sent the message to Congress that he is really serious about being cautious with the taxpayer’s money.

Posted by: MayBee | March 11, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

Mr. Tapper, I hope you will ignore the folks who never learned the lesson that it is unhelpful and wrongheaded to “kill the messenger.” Those who rush to condemn you as a anti-Obama propagandist would be amusing if it weren’t so sad. As a good journalist should be, you are pretty even-handed in skewering those with the power. Did they jump down your throat when you, with that same calm, “just the facts” tone, posted material that put the lie to a particular Republican talking point about the cost of the stimulus package? Or when you chided critics of Geithner by reminding them “it has only been five weeks, for the love of Pete”? Come on, folks, I thought we wanted diversity of thought. Can’t handle any reminders that the president is not absolutely perfect or that his words on the campaign trail do not always match up with his actions in the White House?

Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

“Lying? …exactly how?”
You claimed the earmarks were not online as promised.
That of course ignores the the earmarks database on the OMB’s website.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

“Those who rush to condemn you as a anti-Obama propagandist would be amusing if it weren’t so sad.”
Poor Jake gets blasted from both sides.
I happen to think he’s been fair.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm

“OGLiberal, actually, some of us Republicans actually subscribe to Newsweek (although I sometimes wonder why I bother) and can read Mr. Fineman’s words ‘in the original.’”
My apologies. I saw the link today on Drudge, one of his, “Look a media person – who MUST be a flaming leftist – is down on Obama!”, posts, and assumed that’s how most people found the story. BTW, I actually was a long time subscriber to National Review. I only let my subscription lapse recently after they lost their collective minds over the fact that the GOP was going to lose the presidential election. This was coupled with their cultlike love of Governor Palin. I couldn’t take it anymore, although I still read The Corner…I like to torture myself, I guess.
That said, I found Fineman’s article to be weak, to say the least. The “establishment” is starting to think Obama isn’t up to the task of being president? I don’t care if Fineman is the greatest liberal journalist on the planet – and I have no idea where his politics lie – I long ago stopped caring about what the “establishment” thinks, since they are often spectacularly wrong.

Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Omentum, it is not germane to say that “these earmarks were in the bill when Bush was in office,” because the bill did not go forward while Bush was in office. They postponed dealing with it until a new administration was in the White House because Bush was threatening a veto (I know, that’s an extremely rare thing, a Bush veto, unfortunately)and they knew they had a better chance of slipping a larded-up bill through once President Obama was in office.

Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

“Lying? …exactly how?”
You claimed the earmarks were not online as promised.
That of course ignores the the earmarks database on the OMB’s website.
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Rayn,
Gee…pardon me…I missed the OMB posting…by all means…im a “liar”…lol.
The point of my saying it was the fact it was not up there and used as part of the process that Obama himself had promised to use.
What I want to know is why you are not upset that Obama tossed this one under the rug. Instead of grandstanding, its time to actually do what he said he was going to do. let me guess…next time right. I am sure you would have cut a Republican President the same slack under these conditions…right?
We STILL do not have any idea what this administration is going to put forth for a plan for the financial system. Now according to Geithner it will be a few more weeks.
Another interesting number out today, that group of “rich” people Obama wants to pay for all these wonderful things he throwing out…That group is getting smaller & smaller. The number of millionaires in the US shrunk by 27%.
Everyone get ready to “shoulder the burden”!

Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm

Omentum, it is not germane to say that “these earmarks were in the bill when Bush was in office,” because the bill did not go forward while Bush was in office. They postponed dealing with it until a new administration was in the White House because Bush was threatening a veto (I know, that’s an extremely rare thing, a Bush veto, unfortunately)and they knew they had a better chance of slipping a larded-up bill through once President Obama was in office.
Posted by: moderate | Mar 11, 2009 4:59:09 PM
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slipping it through? are you kidding???
Bush was the KING OF PORK BILLS. He was goint to probably veto it because it didn’t have enought pork in it.

Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm

Ever since Mr. Obama got elected, I have put a few “I told you so” in a locked box. This would be one occasion where I would be willing to take one out.

Posted by: young_voter | March 11, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm

Ryan C, we agree so rarely that I have to take note when we do. I’m glad you agree with me that Mr. Tapper is a fair reporter.

Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm

Omentum, I’ll take back the “slipped through” remark and substitute “pass easily” on the delay of the omnibus bill. And while I know that much of the earmark debate falls along partisan lines, I am with McCain in condemning those on both sides who want to protect the system and who put earmarks in this bill. I personally would not say Bush was hard on pork– on that we can agree. He seemed incapable of vetoing anything, including larded up bills when the Republicans were in charge of Congress.

Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

I am with McCain in condemning those on both sides who want to protect the system and who put earmarks in this bill
Posted by: moderate
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So we can put you down as somebody who prefers a system where *all* of his or her tax money is doled out by unelected bureaucrats who are sitting behind a desk in far away Washington D.C. and who doesn’t have first hand knowledge of what your district needs?
Instead of part of the money being doled out by his or her own elected representative who you can vote out of office if he abuses his power?
Is that what you really prefer?

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | March 11, 2009, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

Instead of grandstanding, its time to actually do what he said he was going to do. let me guess…next time right. I am sure you would have cut a Republican President the same slack under these conditions…right?
Posted by: Mike_C
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Instead of grandstanding, can you point to how long it took Dubya to fulfill his campaign promises?
Let me give you a hint: it was June 7th

Posted by: Willem van Oranje | March 11, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm

“The number of millionaires in the US shrunk by 27%.”
And the world’s tiniest violin plays a ditty for them.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm

“What I want to know is why you are not upset that Obama tossed this one under the rug.”
Because freaking out about earmarks is a waste of time?
Its a political football used by each side to bash each other and get the public angry while doing it.
Its an easy target to focus any anger on government spending on.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

“I’m glad you agree with me that Mr. Tapper is a fair reporter.”
He’s very fair while still asking tough questions.
He is what we expect journalists to be, quite frankly.

Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm

Willem, you asked me, “So we can put you down as somebody who prefers a system where *all* of his or her tax money is doled out by unelected bureaucrats who are sitting behind a desk in far away Washington D.C. and who doesn’t have first hand knowledge of what your district needs?” To which I can only express bemusement that you are suddenly down on “unelected bureaucrats” in Washington. Isn’t that who you want to turn my health care decisions over to? My education policy?
But when it comes to spending, I’m to get all upset because the trained professionals who, say, deal with agricultural research will determine where the funding for such research will be funneled rather than the politicians with agricultural research programs with which they need to curry favor? Sorry, but I do not see this as necessarily worse. I am not so myopic that I think the only good federal spending is in my backyard. And I assume my representatives can learn to be effective in going through channels to get the money committed to worthwhile projects in our district, or I still have the option to vote him/her out, right?
And besides, who said all earmarks are directed at projects in the congressperson’s home district? Our friend the honeybee research lab in Texas had as one of its earmarkers Tim Johnson of South Dakota.
BTW, did you hear that two private commercial firms based in Florida have come up with a vaccine that has the potential to reduce hive collapse? They did the research and developed the vaccine without any government funding at all. What a surprise.

Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

The President has no say when it comes to legislative procedures such as earmarks. He can only veto the entire bill. But if he tries to use that, by vetoing ANY bill with earmarks, then he risks being blamed when the government grinds to a halt.
How does anyone think the President is going to “ban earmarks?”

Posted by: jock59801 | March 11, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm

After their near-death experience in 1998, when the GOP almost lost control of Congress, many members discovered the Joy of Earmarking. Reform went out the window and buying votes was in. It worked for 3 election cycles, too.
Now Democrats, who make drunken sailors look on in envy, are going to show the American people what REAL spendthrifts look like and Obama isn’t going to stand in their way. It’s lip service today, next year his press secretary won’t even take questions on it.

Posted by: Orion | March 11, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

willem,,,Bush is no longer President, thought you voted for change? So when do you stop making excuses for Obama and his administration. There will be a time when the present administration must stand on its own, negative or positive, and answer to their mis-steps. Making a quick retreat and signing the 410 Billion bill full of ear marks, promises broken, behind closed doors is cowardly.

Posted by: Parallax View | March 11, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm

Start packing because how you lied to us who voted for you you are going to be a 1 term president. In 2010 it is going to be mighty hard to vote a democratic ticket.

Posted by: wak1 | March 11, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

Thank you for reporting what CNN and MSNBC will not.

Posted by: Ken | March 11, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y????

Posted by: socialism101 | March 11, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm

“His Inflatedness” can be trusted absolutely except on two small matters, word and deed.

Posted by: Broadsword | March 12, 2009, 7:02 am 7:02 am

BHO has made it clear that he supports earmarks – that benefit government programs, but not for the private sector. Personally I would prefer to see none, however, the messsage he is sending out is “let’s pork up government and to hell with the private sector”. Well, Barack, if you and your leftist cronies destroy capitalism and the private sector, just how do you think you’ll support that big, fat socialist government of your dreams? Too big a population in this country, it will implode quickly. You won’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. As for all of you slackers out there who think it’s YOUR turn to be rich. I think that’s great, so earn YOUR money and keep your hands away from MINE.

Posted by: Joanne600 | March 12, 2009, 7:56 am 7:56 am

Apparently the President has a great deal of memory loss. I remember distinctly the day he said the days of no ear marks would be one of his promises. So much for that promise! I found out today that his wonderful Tax Bill had some 2,000 earmarks in it. How in the name of God can he promise no earmarks and let this happen saying that the bill will be good for the country? I am now convinced that we are doomed for another couople of years listenung to his lies.

Posted by: Dudley Scruggs | December 15, 2010, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

Apparently the President has a great deal of memory loss. I remember distinctly the day he said the days of no ear marks would be one of his promises. So much for that promise! I found out today that his wonderful Tax Bill had some 2,000 earmarks in it. How in the name of God can he promise no earmarks and let this happen saying that the bill will be good for the country? I am now convinced that we are doomed for another couople of years listenung to his lies.

Posted by: Dudley Scruggs | December 15, 2010, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm

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