Obama: “Just Say No” Good Advice for Teenagers and Drugs, Not Acceptable for GOP Economic Response

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Obama says: “we need more good ideas. We don’t need more point scoring, we need more problem solving’
Then how come he constantly blaming Bush for his troubles, he wants Republicans ideas but congress does not include them in their meetings.
This is a big JOKE….Hillary was right, Obama is full of speeches and empty promises..

Not acknowledging that his enormous cap and trade system proposal…..
I know you reporters are all addicted to “balance” but what could possibly be the point of this paragraph? Does the President have an obligation during public appearances to slag his own proposals? The criticism from Warren Buffet may be appropriate and true. But it has absolutely no bearing on the President’s remarks and clearly reflects ABC’s compulsive need to be sure to say something bad in every story.

Until Obama stops blaming Bush this will be just another “do as I say not as I do” speech. Anyone else tired of hearing it? Same old, same old!

“those who say the plans in this budget are too ambitious to enact…that in the face of challenges that we face, we should be trying to do less than more. What I say is that the challenges we face are too large to ignore.”
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He’s pushing back against Warren Buffet, among others, here.
The “Team of Rivals” concept didn’t last even 60 days.

Paul, maybe if some msm would have questioned or said something bad, (proven) about Obama during the election people (dems) wouldn’t think just because they say 1 or 2 bad things now that they “say something bad in every story” Actually, there is still more gushing over Obama now then I can handle. Like I said to a poster yesterday, not all news reports or reporters have to praise Obama 100% of the time to be truthful.

Hes not Blaming Bush, He is telling the Republicans to stop Just saying NO And come up with Some Ideas. Other then the Same Failed Ideas of the Last 8 Years But Bush did Leave him this Mess! HAPPY ST PATTYS DAY!

Love you Obama! You are the best President in the history of America! Keep up the good work!

I did not see the campaign style speech, so I don’t know what his teleprompter told him to say today.
Did he actually speak without it? Did he answer questions without it.
Did the teleprompter tell him to tell the public that cap and trade will increase costs for everything from gasoline, to heating, to groceries and countless others.
Did the teleprompter tell Obama to imply he would only “tax” super rich, instead of small businesses and hard workers, and “tax” via cap and trade big business only.
Did the teleprompter tell Obama to tell us that his new budget will cost countless jobs as well, as tax increases to small businesses and workers always do.
I am hoping that for once Obama actually knew what he was going to say, and that the teleprompter prompted him in advance, not during his oppressive tax and spend budget announcement.
But I bet he did not take questions none the less.

Blomberg News:
“President Barack Obama’s approval ratings are slipping as Americans fret about the economy, two polls found. A March 12-15 survey conducted for CNN by Opinion Research Corp. found Obama’s approval rating dropped 3 points from late last month and 12 points from early February. A Pew Research Center poll taken March 9-12 found that Obama’s approval rating slipped to 59 percent from 64 percent last month.”
It’s that somewhat sickening, empty feeling that comes with the realization that this man doesn’t know what he’s doing.

Republicans’ favorite movie? DR. NO

“Republicans’ favorite movie? DR. NO”
And the campaign keeps on rolling. Hey, he won… its time to govern and people are none too happy with what he’s done so far. The campaign could come in handy if he took his own advice on change.
But hey, his biggest qualification is he ran a campaign. I guess it’s expected to run the white house like a campaign.

Please remember: those who can do, those who can’t complain.

Was he using his teleprompter today???
oh! yes,check out the photo on yahoo, even when was outraged, he was using telepromopetr!
how strange?

Obama wants the recovery to take just short of 4 years. Just like Bush waited until just before the end of his term to catch Bin Ladin.

lani, could you please provide the Republican suggestions? I have been trying to find them for a while on the ‘net, but I have only seen the tax breaks. Thank you.

Leave it to the neo-con “I hope he fails” mentality, they would rather the whole country’s economy go down the toilet than to admit Obama is doing a good job rebuilding this country from eight years of disaster. He has been in office 2 months but is supposed to clean up the mess of 8 years Beaganomics. To all those who claim he can’t speak without a teleprompter, what the heck was the “W” using that he couldn’t complete a sentence?

Obama says: “we need more good ideas. We don’t need more point scoring, we need more problem solving.”
I guess Press Secretary Gibbs didn’t get THAT memo.

Since Obama approved the spending bill which specifically allowed the bonuses at AIG, I find it amazing that he is faking this anger. Or did he sign a bill where he didn’t read it? In either case, he is totally incompetent and everybody is beginning to realize it.

Bill Dull, how is BO rebuilding this country?? By cutting jobs every single day, by giving more and more to the big corporations and poo pooing this screw ups? Explain it to me please and I’m not being sarcastic. I’m always of the mind to vote for the person I think would do the best job and honestly don’t see how anyone can say BO is doing a good job.

“Mr. Obama said that “what we need in Washington are not more political tactics, we need more good ideas. We don’t need more point scoring, we need more problem solving. So if there are members of Congress who object to specific policies and proposals in this budget, then I ask them to be ready and willing to propose constructive alternative solutions.”
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Obama the hypocrite is bemoaning the very tactics he is employing. The Republicans have given him dozens of ideas for boosting the economy, in written form. Yet here is Obama employing “political tactics” and trying to “score points” by saying the Republicans are the “party of no” and they haven’t presented any alternatives.
Will the Obama media call Obama out on this direct and brazen lie?
Also, Obama has no moral grounds for speaking out against drug use. He openly boasted about his own drug use in order to get the MTV crowd’s votes, and we don’t even know the last time he either snorted or smoked Cocaine because the Obama media never asked him if he was still a drug abuser.
What we are witnessing with Obama is someone who is so shameless in his lying ability, he puts George W. Bush to shame.

Is this the same budget and blueprint for the future that apparently uses financial tables developed by French socialists to provide a way to the future.
It seemed to me that many of our ancestors came to this world because they didn’t want to be like the Europeans.

What part of this don’t some of you get?! Your so busy attempting to find fault you don’t read or you just have comprehension issues! In a nutshell, he’s saying if you don’t like something, fine, but come up with an alterative! The majority of the country is tired of the just say “NO” but have nothing else to offer! Stop being so angry that you can’t focus on the very simple meaning of his words!

OxyCon:”The Republicans have given him dozens of ideas for boosting the economy, in written form. ”
Many of them were included in the stimulus bill, some as direct amendments, yet Republicans claim they were shut out of that bill.
And pushing “Bush tax cuts – part 3″ as the solution to the problem is getting a bit stale.

In a nutshell, he’s saying if you don’t like something, fine, but come up with an alterative!
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If he hated the AIG bonuses, why did he sign protection for them into law, then pretend to be outraged by the bonuses?
What was his alternative?

Bush signed the Bailout 700 Billion from which AIG promised to pay these bonuses.
The Stimulus Package and TARP ae two different bill, not that the GOP sheeple care. At one point they don’t want government to exert any control over business that we are “bailing out” yet when those businesses do what they do (behave greedy) they cry that the goverment should have put more restrictions on those businesses.. The GOP is a joke.. A sad jake….

jb:”Is this the same budget and blueprint for the future that apparently uses financial tables developed by French socialists”
Citation please. Actually a definition would be useful – what specific financial tables are you talking about? Usually it just refers to a format for presenting factual information, like classic stock table. In standard usage, “financial tables” have absolutely zero policy implications – it’s like saying they are using math developed by a czarist partisan.

“Is this the same budget and blueprint for the future that apparently uses financial tables developed by French socialists to provide a way to the future.” Wow, can we get away from this typical neo-con mantra for a minute? The Socialist/Communist label is getting rather old. Let’s see, do you send your kids to private schools since you don’t believe in the government providing education? When your house is on fire, you tell the local fire department, you will hire your own fire company as you don’t believe in using tax payer funded services. How about if you happen to get mugged, you would refuse a policeman’s assistance until your own security force arrived? And of course finally you will never accept a social security check when you retire, you will send them back to the treasury saying you don’t believe in entitlements!! Yeah, right!

Obama wants the recovery to take just short of 4 years. Just like Bush waited until just before the end of his term to catch Bin Ladin.
Posted by: LongT | Mar 17, 2009 12:13:48 PM
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LongT, I didn’t catch the meaning. Of course, I know Bush didn’t catch Bin Ladin. If you’re comparing the economy recovering to catching Bin Laden, we’re in big trouble though. I would add this shouldn’t be a laughing matter as I’ve seen people on this site hoping the Dow would continue the downfall just to justify their hatred of Obama.

PLEASE make sure someone reads the bill this time before signing it!

Gee, I wonder how it was that Clinton was able to raise taxes AND create 21 MILLION jobs in 8 years?
Magic, I guess…

Small business gets chump change but employees 70% of the people in the USA. ? DOH! Who get the biggest corporate welfare checks? The big companies. And democrats are OK with this? You are all being played for chumps.

jhw: “He never signed protection of them into law, quit making up lies.”
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“While the Senate constructed the $787 billion stimulus last month, Dodd unexpectedly added an executive-compensation restriction to the bill. That amendment provides an “exception for contractually obligated bonuses agreed on before Feb. 11, 2009,” which exempts the very AIG bonuses Dodd and others are seeking to tax. The amendment is in the final version and is law.”
jhw, why the extra protection for executive compensation if it wasn’t necessary?

ChicagoBob:”As unemployment sores Obama points finds distractions to hide his utter failure. ”
So discussing his major blueprint for all future spending, programs, and handling of the economy is now a distraction? What the heck SHOULD he be talking about? Does Terri Shivo have a sister who you think needs Obama’s immediate medical opinion or something?

jhw:And it should be noted that “selected groups” would be 95% of the electorate. And that high-earners generated fantastic growth under HIGHER taxes than Obama is proposing in the past.
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Clinton had higher tax rates across the board. 100% of the electorate.
Clinton also controlled spending.

What kind of idiot calls the recently passed economic bailout package a failure a scant 4 weeks after being passed? (You know, because we haven’t seen the results yet…well DUH, it’s only been 4 weeks!! Last time I checked the market was rallying)
The same kind of idiot that berates the president for going back on a campaign promise if it turns out to be an idea that will help get republicans on board.
You can’t have it both ways. If he sticks to campaign rhetoric he is trounced on, if he reneges on promises in order to garner support from the opposition, he is labeled a liar. Which is it?

When it comes to shameless, brazen lying, the only difference between Obama and George W. Bush is that Bush didn’t need a teleprompter to tell his lies.

Republicans in Washington DC have a 28 percent approval rating in the latest Pew poll the lowest in 14 years.
28 percent for being a party of No!

Just say NO! NO more bailouts! NO more earmarks! NO more rewarding faiulure and punishing success! NO more illegal immigrants! NO more teleprompters! NO more liberal welfare socialist policies!

What kind of idiot calls the recently passed economic bailout package a failure a scant 4 weeks after being passed? (You know, because we haven’t seen the results yet…well DUH, it’s only been 4 weeks!! Last time I checked the market was rallying)
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I would suggest that the democrats who voted for the stimulus, which their own congressional budget office told them was only 1/3 stimulative, over many years, AND that it would slow the recovery were the idiots.
I would not be surprised if there were some short term, short lived, recovery, but the long term impact of Obama socialism policies in the stimulus will break the country.,
These policies have been tried and failed worldwide. When the russians and the chinese warn Obama it won’t work, maybe he should listen to them, if not the Americans.

jhw, “There is an exception for contractually obligated bonuses agreed on before Feb. 11, 2009.”
He may have limited some executive compensation but he exempted the AIG bonuses he is now so outraged about.
I don’t have a problem with honoring contracts. Let’s just not pretend we’ll claw them back when we’ve signed legislation to protect them.

WHO STARTED THE COPORATE BAILOUT WELFARE
1-GEORE W BUSH
2-HENRY PAULSON
They were the Two biggest Corporate welfare 2 Alive!
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You are correct, but you forgot Geithner was part and parcel of writing these bailouts even with Bush in office. He has claimed authorship although they are backpedaling now.
It is really irrelevant now. What matters now is what we do now.
In any event they are still digging. Obama and Geithner need to stop digging and try something else, and I don’t mean an historically failing strategy of tax and spend, Or just spend spend spend.

chicago bob: and the solutions offered by the Republicans are….?

MNM
What do you suggest They Do? All you bashers Have any Suggestions About this Complicated Mess? Seems to Me Republicans are also Clueless what to do. They havent Presented any Ideas that Im aware of.

Ronald Reagan rolls over in his grave agian.
We loved you Mr. Reagan. You stood up for America! I know you would be ashamed of the weak republicans who are going along with this give-it-all-away administration.
Time to organize protests in your communities folks. We cannot let this happen!!!!

Howard: did you notice no answer from Chicago Bob on your question? That is because he only offers smears.

Do your homework. His ‘spending’ bill is drawn out over the next 12 years. He’s using fear to acomplish his socialist agenda as quickly as possible. Even Warren Buffet knows he’s a liar and is making quote “regressive” decisions. MOST IMPORTANT…he inspires ZERO confidence.
Posted by: noNOno | Mar 17, 2009 1:10:42 PM
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Can you please point out where the agenda is “socialist”, and what EXACTLY has been done to “promote” it? I am curious…

MNM: “the fact that the military cuts balanced the budget is not up for dispute.”
You’re just making stuff up again. The budget was balanced by the unprecedented increase in revenue that accompanied the internet boom. People do look at this stuff you know. Clinton proposed cuts on the order of $122 billion over 4 years. He left office with a surplus of about six times that (Bush cited the projected $5.6 trillion surplus over the next 10 years as a conservative estimate in his first press conference as he pushed to ‘give it back’ through tax cuts).
Volume and persistence in repeating lies does not alter the real, documented, history.

Angie In Pa
I would like to personally thank you and all of the hopey changers for your lifetime commitment to finance all of Obama’s ideas. That house your parents live in, you better not leave because chances are you will never be able to afford one, bank on a smaller used car too. You can forget about the daily or weekly lattes and chai too but that is all good right, you may be a college graduate, you may have worked your butt off but you will never have the standard of living that I have enjoyed and my parents enjoyed but hey as long as everyone is the same it is all good and dreams and ideas just pay for themselves.

What do you suggest They Do? All you bashers Have any Suggestions About this Complicated Mess? Seems to Me Republicans are also Clueless what to do. They havent Presented any Ideas that Im aware of.
Posted by: Angie In Pa | Mar 17, 2009 1:08:34 PM
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The republicans offered an alternative stimulus that the congressional budget office told us would create twice as many jobs and cost half as much.
They are being shut out of the writing of any congressional bills by Pelosi, and only marginally included in the Senate. This is unprecedented as even when republicans were in control they met in committees of both parties to write bills.
In fact if you are determined to do something it should not be akin to throwing gasoline on a fire.
2/3 of the bill was non-stimulative. That is debt for our grandkids. 9000 (give or take ) earmarks in the omnibus bill he signed, also debt to our grandkids.
I would much prefer Obama do nothing.
I would much prefer they consider republican options.
Here is an example: Vouchers in DC for students for the past 5 or six years at a cost of 12 million dollars. Far less than most earmarks.
These kids had the opportunity to attend the same schools as Obama’s kids and have a dream to get ahead. Washington DC has arguably the worst education system in the nation.
The dems killed the program. These mostly if not all minority kids have been ripped from the schools and their dreams smashed.
Their parents tried to protest but the media wouldn’t carry the info.
Republicans tried to amend the spending bill to keep this program in, it was voted down along party line.
At least Obama’s kids and those of other legislators will now be protected from the riff raff.
Can you think of anything less caring and less democratic. Can you think of anything more basic than education for minorities to give them a lift up?
Obama and dems deferred to teacher unions instead.
Whose best interest did he have in mind there?

Ronald Reagan rolls over in his grave agian.
We loved you Mr. Reagan. You stood up for America! I know you would be ashamed of the weak republicans who are going along with this give-it-all-away administration.
Time to organize protests in your communities folks. We cannot let this happen!!!!
We are only new millineum and you bringing up old idealogy and a dead leader. The fact remains and trickle down economics never worked. Its a shame that most right wingers continue to cling to Reagan as if he’s a GOD, but yet you benefitted much more under the Clinton years than anytime prior or after his Administration. Reagan is gone, get over it.

“The jobless rate and market are both tied to the economy which started this recession in December 2007 and is a reflection of the economic policies of your pathetic hero “W”.”–
Posted by: Bill Dull | Mar 17, 2009 1:11:39 PM
Wrong answer there Skippy. It is actually a reflection of alot of administrations; not just “W’s”. Whose policies started the mortgage loan industry to colapse?? Clinton…he fought to loosen the requirements to get mortgages and to create “Creative Financing” and guess what…thee was a reason some of those people could not qualify for mortages before. Because they defaulted on them before and now they defaulted when the restrictions were loosened on top of the people that qualilfied for more house than they really could afford but bought it anyway under the new “Creative Financing”.

REP. CANTOR WAS ON MEET THE PRESS AND WAS ASKED AND DIDNT GIVE NEW IDEAS, BUT TAX CUTS. smh!
Posted by: nubiangent08 | Mar 17, 2009 1:23:43 PM——–
Fact check thinks they know better than the congressional budget office. They are a partisan organization.
I will follow the CBO scoring of both dem and republican plans as a frame of reference.
Tax cuts are an idea. A good one. A proven one. One most economists encourage right now.

IND DEM
Bush had Grit hahahah lololol The Man couldnt Even stand At the Podium Right when asked a Question he Looked Like a Deer in Headlights Look Lets be Real the Only Reason W Became President was Because of Daddy! It sure wasnt his Intelligence he was an Idiot!

Wrong answer there Skippy. It is actually a reflection of alot of administrations; not just “W’s”. Whose policies started the mortgage loan industry to colapse?? Clinton…he fought to loosen the requirements to get mortgages and to create “Creative Financing” and guess what…thee was a reason some of those people could not qualify for mortages before. Because they defaulted on them before and now they defaulted when the restrictions were loosened on top of the people that qualilfied for more house than they really could afford but bought it anyway under the new “Creative Financing”.
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Just as Clinton kicked the ball of responsibility down the road so does Obama. Some of his plan expenses take almost a decade to kick in. He knows he will be long gone by then to and someone else will carry the blame for their effect on the economy.

Tax cuts are an idea. A good one. A proven one. One most economists encourage right now.
Posted by: MNM] | Mar 17, 2009 1:27:59 PM
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Which is why they are a part of the stimulus package.
And please, how has Factcheck been “proven” to be partisan? Have you ever even visited the site? They call Obama out plenty for his mistakes and when he misspeaks…they rely on the non-partisan “tax policy center” for their information just like the article I read on Fox News that called out the top “porkers” in the latest budget. Did you know that 6/10 of the top earmarkers were Republican? I didn’t think so…

Can you please point out where the agenda is “socialist”, and what EXACTLY has been done to “promote” it? I am curious…
MVP
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He wants to increase the roll of government power. He wants to raise taxes on the wealthy which will stifle investment & growth. With those tax dollars he aims to hire government employees in various industries to regulate healthcare, financials, and energy. Through doing this he will further snuff out private capital. The remainder of those tax dollars will be “redistributed” to the undeserved lower class. All then while the only private sector growth he will encourage will be in the form of inefficient and uncompetive union driven professions such as laborers & teachers. Which is why immigrants get to stay for labor and our public school systems are a joke. And how about the UAW…joke. Any other questions?

If President Clinton Stared the Mortgage Mess he was Not alone REPUBLICANS HELD POWER during the Clinton Administration,And 6 Years Of the Bush Admin The housing Mess Began in 2007 Just about when Democrats were Just regaining Power Why did Bush and The Republicans not Change it? So Blame goes to Both sides But More for Republicans they held power the Most!

Ind Dem
Yes I pay Taxes and I Have no Problem Paying Taxes if its being spent IN MY COUNTRY! As Far as Planes going down I do belive 911 Happened On W Watch!

Real leaders take responsibility for their mistakes. Real leaders do not lie to their people. And! Real leaders do not appoint people to bankrupt its people. Real leaders also care about everyday people.
Bush was none of those. He kept us safe for 7 years, wow!. The bad guys still free, and we safe after 7 years.
4000 men and women gone
trillions gone
70 billion unaccounted for
incompetent vp who cant aim straight
750 billion bailout- ineffective
500 billion stimulus package – made the economy worse
I can go on.
A real leader who abandon his responsibilities b/c he was too incompetent to fix them when he was the leader.

Can you please point out where the agenda is “socialist”, and what EXACTLY has been done to “promote” it? I am curious…
MVP
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His oft repeated desire for a fair “redistribution of wealth” is socialist. His new welfare programs via the tax system is a start.
His desire for government control in all sectors, business, health care, food you eat, media control, and so on.
His desire for an internal security force “just as strong, just as well funded” as the army is a frightening socialist idea as well. Control the people at every turn.
Enough of this, you should research his history, not his autobiography. He is not shy about his feelings on these topics. He is a self admitted Saul Alinsky fan. This is easy to check.
His oppressive taxes, which equate to control of all parts of the country closely mirror these socialist-Alinsky policies. He is laying the groundwork at every turn.
LOOK IT UP.

IND DEM
So According to you Taking our TAX DOLLARS And Fixing our Roads,Bridges,Schools,Healthcare and Pretty Much rebuilding our Country Because of Bush and His negligence is SOCIALISM, But sending Billons to Iraq to Blow it up is ok or Sending Billons of our Money for Oil in the Middle East is Ok?

Angie: “I Have no Problem Paying Taxes if its being spent IN MY COUNTRY!”
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Billions of dollars given to bailout AIG are going to foreign banks. The money is not staying in this country.

MAD
Iam not talking about AIG Im talking about Money for our Schools,Roads,Bridges,Police Officers Etc

Jim Jones (of Jonestown not the rapper) was a socialist communist like Obama and the two sound exactly alike as their do their own groups of kool aid drinkers. What is it with sheeple looking to moronic drug abusing repeatedly lying leaders from dysfunctional families such as Jones and Obama? Are people really this easily lead?

Sickened:” In fact his ratings have been running below Bush’s for the same time in his term.”
At this point in Bush’s first term he was pushing hard to send everyone a check to “pay back” some of the $5.6 trillion dollar surplus he had inherited (the Bush administration was quick to point out that $5.6 number was conservative and the surplus was likely to be higher). This is documented fact.
Meanwhile, Obama is slogging through a major transformation during the worst economy in a couple generations. He is also putting the costs associated with his proposed agenda right up front, not hiding them but asking for direct debate.
Gee, wonder why their ratings would possibly differ?

President Obama wants ideas
Tuesday, March 17, 2009
Remove the credit score rating from consideration for secured loans
Politicians and policy makers chatter on about fixing the economy. So far we haven’t been protected from being pummeled with higher unemployment, decreases in retail spending, plummeting stocks and more home foreclosures. Politicians say; “the U.S. economy is in unchartered waters”, we need “change”. Uncommon economic issues require us to find a commensurate solution that will really work and work now. We do need change. Americans still need to protect their credit score for unsecured borrowing.
We do need a plan that would kindle borrowing among all eligible citizens again. Prospective borrowers are being rejected for secured loan requests because the credit score is too low. If a borrower is asking for a secured loan to buy a home or car, lenders examine the ability to repay the debt, securities, reserves and verifiable collateral.
Consider removing the credit score rating from consideration for secured loans. Politicians declare that they want to help American families in need. President Obama said; “we need to get lending started again!” But then he qualified the remark with the condition; “for creditworthy Americans”. The millions of Americans who have lost homes to foreclosure and the millions who have pending foreclosure have a derogatory credit score. Many have the ability to borrow and pay smaller amounts, and borrowing would be safe for banks and the borrower. The current message from government is; we know many Americans are not buying goods as usual. Many Americans cannot keep business operating as usual. Many Americans cannot buy cars. Many Americans are not making investments. Unfortunately you are exempt from our plan. So I am curious, just who, exactly are politicians helping in their plan? Obviously, it will help get lending started for people who have a high credit score, or people who do not really need the help. Come on! Removing the credit score rating from the lending consideration for secured loans would redefine “creditworthy”. Many people faithfully pay a higher price for rent than they would pay on a house payment. Many people faithfully pay double the amount necessary for a car because they had to buy it at a “buy here, pay here” place. While this is going on, the politicians are racking their brains to figure out how to help the auto and housing industry.
We got into this mess by relaxing the lending rules, right? Avant-garde lending products yes. The lack of vigilance by lenders and the lack of regulation and oversight over the mortgage industry is what got us into this mess. Lenders allowed known overvaluation of property to get through their underwriters. When the true value of collateral is not verified by the lender, one can see the economic devastation that can result.
Double talk by politicians
Policy makers from both parties step aside to avoid directly addressing the good American who has lost a home. Why? It may be because of the inability to relate to the ordinary American truly in financial trouble. Policy makers will make the impotent comment; “we cannot reward bad decisions by homeowners”. “I have a hard time feeling sorry for the homeowner who borrowed more than he could ever hope to pay.” This is a favorite comeback to the foreclosure issue by politicians. It is also an amazing side step in logic by politicians since we’ve recently tried to bail out Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae (NYSE: FNM), Freddie Mac (NYSE: FRE), and AIG (NYSE: AIG), and Citibank with the homeowner’s tax dollars in spite of their enormously bad financial management. While foreclosed homeowners sit and wait for better times, the government will send more bail-out money to big bank and automaker executives and AIG so they can keep their homes and good credit standing. There appears to be a marked bias in their favor for preferential treatment.
I genuinely believe that most politicians cannot relate to ordinary Americans with financial problems. If we keep the credit score and FICO elements in consideration for secured lending politicians will be sending a clear message. Help the people with high credit scores. It will be very helpful to the person standing on the courthouse lawn, buying your home at auction for 10% of its real value. Americans need to be able to borrow money based on sound evaluation of securities and collateral and ability to pay back the loan.
Surely, if lending institutions have the ability to repossess and foreclose on property for failure to pay, they can calculate the risk of a loan and then loan a safe amount of money, based on criteria other than credit score. Eliminating the credit scoring system from secured loans just means; the house or car or whatever you buy would have to have enough true fair market value to sustain a lending risk analysis in case of default. The day this happens, the housing market, the auto market and every facet of our economy will be on the road to recovery.
Carl Campbell
Fair Grove, Missouri

“The difference between strongly approve and strongly disapprove narrowed.”
Its wider than it was yesterday.
So the claim that his rating dorpped again today is plainly false.
And that’s using Scott Republimussen’s ratings in which his disapprove numbers are 10 to 15 pts higher than any other survey.
“This is a leading indicator and is considered a drop in ratings.”
Its a made up indicator that Rasmussen introduced this year.
“In fact his ratings have been running below Bush’s for the same time in his term.”
According to Rasmussen who consistently had higher approval numbers for Bush than any other polling organization.
Gallup today did an article on this.
Gallup’s mid-March job approval rating for Bush, measured March 9-11, 2001, was 58%, with 29% disapproval. Gallup’s March 12-14, 1993, approval rating for Clinton was 53%, with 34% disapproval. Both of these approval ratings are lower than Obama’s current 61%. Bush’s disapproval rating in mid-March 2001 was about the same as Obama’s is now (28%), while Clinton’s disapproval rating was significantly higher.
Also if you look at the polls taken by the various different agencies during the month of Mar in 2001 for Bush and Mar 2009 for Obama, you will find that Obama has a slight edge on Bush.

I absolutely refuse to defend this bail-out mentality. I don’t care who the president is or what part he represents. IT IS NOT RIGHT NOR JUST to reward failure!

Ryan C:”And that’s using Scott Republimussen’s ratings in which his disapprove numbers are 10 to 15 pts higher than any other survey. ”
All his results are adjusted by his internal (and unreleased as proprietary) likely voter model. His house effect is indeed Republican, and a likely voter model in an off election year is… odd… but he’s not directly a Republican mouthpiece. His trends do typically have validity.

“All his results are adjusted by his internal (and unreleased as proprietary) likely voter model. His house effect is indeed Republican, and a likely voter model in an off election year is… odd… but he’s not directly a Republican mouthpiece. His trends do typically have validity.”
Yes I suppose Republimussen is a bit much but he is FoxNews’s go to pollster on various social issues. And his results tend to be comforting to that crowd.
For instance both Gallup and he did a thing on card check.
While Gallup allows that most people do not follow the issue and is cautious in its assessment, Rasmussen has blaring headlines.

Thou shalt not question the teleprompter!

Tonya: if the GOP was not included in the meeting how is it they were able to put 40% of the earmark in the package. They represent 40% of Congress. They put earmarks in and voted against it knowing it would pass.
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Bloviating and excessive spending is a bipartisan excercise.

Ryan, claiming everything you don’t like is a lie does not make it so.
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On redistribution:
“a 2001 interview Barack Obama did with Chicago public radio, in which he advocated “redistributive change.” quote from csmonitor webpage.
-Obama and Redistribution of Wealth Program
Tax Plans Punish the American Dream of Success
© Martha R. Gore
Oct 18, 2008, US Elections.Suite101
Lists a compilation of his redistribution issues.
There is more but you can look it up yourself.
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Regarding the security force, which is most definitely not the job description of Americorp:
Obama proposed “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military..
SInce when is Americorp a “security force”?

“His oft repeated desire for a fair “redistribution of wealth” is socialist.”
His rollback of the Bush cuts, if he even does it, will still result in lower taxes for the elite wealthy than there was under Reagan, or many other Republican presidents.

jhw, I thought I was agreeing with her response.

His oft repeated desire for a fair “redistribution of wealth” is socialist.”
His rollback of the Bush cuts, if he even does it, will still result in lower taxes for the elite wealthy than there was under Reagan, or many other Republican presidents.
Posted by: silky | Mar 17, 2009 2:21:06 PM
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You must mean before the Reagan tax cuts were enacted. They were higher in the beginning because we still suffered the Carter tax debacle.
The rate when Reagan was done cutting taxes was less than 30% top tax rate.
The combination of Obama tax increases will almost double that rate to close to 60%.
He plans much more than a simple rolling back of Bush tax cuts.
He will cut deductions further, he will increase social security taxes, which is about 7.5% all by itself.
It is misleading to claim Reagan tax rates were higher and that Obama is simply rolling back Bush tax cuts.

MNM:”The combination of Obama tax increases will almost double that rate to close to 60%.”
You really are just making this up now aren’t you? A 60% top income tax bracket – I don’t even care where you’re getting your fantasy rants from anymore. I’m sure your “combination of Obama tax cuts” somehow gets you there (although you won’t bother to combine all the Reagan taxes – like his capital gains rate that was higher than anything Obama has proposed).

jhw:We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.
We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. ”
That is what HE ACTUALLY SAID.
“SInce when is Americorp a “security force”?”
YOU ARE THE ONE DECLARING AMERICORP A SECURITY FORCE. The National Security goals Obama was clearly discussing was the one of improving US image.
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Listen to the you tube video on this.
He plainly emphasizes the security force. You include the language yourself, but muddle it with the Americorps statement as if that dismisses the totality of what he wants.
Wordsmithing doesn’t change the fact of what he stated, and it is on a you tube video for doubters.
Obama talks about a National security force, it is in your text as well.
Unless he plans to convert Americorp to become a security force than he is speaking of a second group.
In any event he expresses the desire, which you admit but reinterpret for:
“”We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.
We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. “”
This is the precise method of control imposed by 3rd world and communist regimes.
Again, Obama’s words “security force” . There is little room for reinterpretation of that unless you have blinders on.

MNM: You are delusional. When this scary “national security” force actually happens, let me know. I’m sure he just accidentally announced it while discussing expanding the Peace Corps to push our foreign policy of improving our country’s image (countering terrorist propaganda). The scariest thing he says is the name “USA Freedom Corps,” but that’s the name Bush chose to give to that volunteer program when he created it, so meh.

jhw:When this scary “national security” force actually happens, let me know. I’m sure he just accidentally announced it while discussing expanding the Peace Corps to push our foreign policy of improving our country’s image (countering terrorist propaganda).
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I did not imagine his words pasted below. However much you want to name call and deny, they are his words. It is memorialized on YOU TUBE. The language speaks for itself, no matter how much you wish otherwise, but thanks for the opportunity for me to restate it.
“”We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set.
We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded. “”

His oft repeated desire for a fair “redistribution of wealth” is socialist. His new welfare programs via the tax system is a start.
His desire for government control in all sectors, business, health care, food you eat, media control, and so on.
His desire for an internal security force “just as strong, just as well funded” as the army is a frightening socialist idea as well. Control the people at every turn.
Enough of this, you should research his history, not his autobiography. He is not shy about his feelings on these topics. He is a self admitted Saul Alinsky fan. This is easy to check.
His oppressive taxes, which equate to control of all parts of the country closely mirror these socialist-Alinsky policies. He is laying the groundwork at every turn.
LOOK IT UP.
Posted by: MNM] | Mar 17, 2009 1:40:41 PM
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So, where exactly has he made these “desires” into law? I have never heard Obama talk about government control of those things. I mean the government already has some say in things like the food you eat and what you watch on television due to the standards they put forth for the safety of the American people.
You know, so we don’t get bird flu from chicken or have explicit programming for children.
But tell me more about this “External Security Force”…where is this coming from?
Just because someone has ideas and ideals as a person does not mean that they have a “desire” to make them real when they become the president. He knows that the people would never go for it, which is likely why you haven’t heard the media talking about it.
I don’t think a 1-2% tax increase is “redistribution of wealth”. Heck I don’t think a 5% tax increase is “redistribution”. But then I am not a “tax” person and likely, neither are you…
Try again…

“Ryan, claiming everything you don’t like is a lie does not make it so.”
So to refute my calling what you stated was an oft repeated desire you quote a single interview from 8 years ago?!?!
ROFLMAO!

Just because someone has ideas and ideals as a person does not mean that they have a “desire” to make them real when they become the president. He knows that the people would never go for it, which is likely why you haven’t heard the media talking about it.
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These are not statement in isolation. The media did not report it because of their pro-Obama for election determination.
There is much they did not report. The list is long and incendiary which is the point of their not or limited reporting.
The sleazy home purchase deal with Rezco, who got earmark kickbacks in return. In fact in just one of those kickbacks he was given several hundred thousand dollars to rehabilitate “slum housing”. The money changed hands but alas no repairs.
That is the tip of the iceberg on his Chicago sleaze,
Lets move on to his bomber friend Bill Ayers author of “guilty as sin, free as a bird”.
If Bush had been friends with someone who bombed an abortion clinic he would have been run out of the country.
Obama was friends with and babysat one anothers kids with Bill Ayers, you may not know that because the media refused to report it. He only bombed the pentagon and got off on a technicality for murder. The title of his book says it all. Haven’t heard of the book? Check with the media.
Don’t even get me started on his anti-Israeli, unreported associations of which the Reverend Wright is only the tip of the iceberg.
Bush wanted to speak at Bob Jones University, a speech, and every thought of every person who ever passed through that university was attributed to him.
Obama sat in a pew for 20 years and was somehow dubbed immune by the media for listening to anti-israeli, anti-american, racist, terrorist supporting vitriol that spewed from the pulpit weekly. Rev. Wright was so proud of those rantings he sold them on DVD’s in the gift shop. Rev. Wright turned over the church newspaper, run by his daughter, to a Hamas leader to further spew anti-american, anti-semitic vitriol. After all that, and twenty years of association Obama had no clue this was going on.
GIVE ME A BREAK.
IF YOU DIDN’T HEAR IT IN THE MEDIA, ABOUT THE SECURITY FORCE I MEAN, IT DOESN’T MEAN A THING.
The part that matters is that until he was running for election he remained consistent in these Alinsky like, anti-semitic beliefs. He had a brief election conversion and now that he is in office he is also backpeddling on his support for israel, which is another topic entirely.
He was consistent for years, with a brief campaign conversion and now he is using the economy to effect social change, socialism ,
As Rahm said “never let a good crisis go to waste”

“These are not statement in isolation. The media did not report it because of their pro-Obama for election determination.”
How factcheck characterizes it
This false claim is a badly distorted version of Obama’s call for doubling the Peace Corps, creating volunteer networks and increasing the size of the Foreign Service.

“Bush wanted to speak at Bob Jones University, a speech, and every thought of every person who ever passed through that university was attributed to him.”
Bush wanted to kick off his campaign there and was sucking up to the racist religious base.
The school forbade interracial dating for crissakes.

When you increase taxes on one group and hand it over in welfare, tax credits or whatever you call it to others that is redistribution, BY DEFINITION. When that redistribution exceeds what is necessary to make sure people have food on the table, or actual needed welfare payments, that is socialism.
Plain and simple. So here we go again.
I have posted the list of Obama tax increases which are well beyond the 5 percent you list in other posts.
You need to do an online search for the You Tube video of Obama and National security force. Watch it, it speaks for itself. It is not subject to reinterpretation. Americorp has no role in national security. I will not presume to know whether this national security force he speaks of is a morphing of americorp or a new group entirely.
WATCH THE VIDEO. It is one but not all of the documentation on this, but it is irrefutable.
Posted by: MNM] | Mar 17, 2009 3:22:26 PM
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The Tax Policy Center has released the figures of which taxes are increased for whom and they don’t come close to the 60% increase you are peddling about. Maybe you should check your facts (for the first time?).
I am curious as to which redistribution you are talking about? Are you talking about welfare? Have they upped the income limit on those who get it? Have they upped the amount they get? Where is this documented? You must know since you are pushing this so hard. I’d like to see the law that was made in the past 8 weeks that changed the welfare system.
As for the quote about the “security force” you keep touting, I think Ryan C set you straight there.
Why not take your neo-con ideas and ideals (like taking a quote out of context and repeating it as policy change) and push them on people who care what you have to say. Maybe if you weren’t constantly spouting rhetoric and had actual FACTS people would listen?

BTW, MNM] I didn’t see your retort to the FACT that 6 out of the top 10 “earmarkers” in the latest budget are Republican?
Pot calling the kettle black?
I thought so…

The school forbade interracial dating for crissakes.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 17, 2009 3:40:26 PM
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The media called Bush on the carpet night and day for this.
AND Reverend Wright spewed vitriol that was anti-american, anti-semitic, and racist. He was so proud he had DVD’s printed.
Why was Obama’s 20 year association with this guy immunized from accountability for crissakes.
Obama kicked of his political career at the home of admitted terrorist Bill Ayers, for crissakes.
Where is the accountability.
The Obama examples are so much more serious it defies description.
Posted by: MNM] | Mar 17, 2009 3:51:03 PM
You know thats not true MNMJ. You continually type false statements based GOP talking points that are even more false. You just dont know how stupid you and the GOP sound bringing up stuff thats false, unfounded, and unimportant to whats really going in this country.
I almost feel sorry for you and other right wingers. I really hope POTUS plans work and even more i hope he succeeds b/c when he does, the GOP will be marginalized as small as popcorn seed.

BTW, MNM] I didn’t see your retort to the FACT that 6 out of the top 10 “earmarkers” in the latest budget are Republican?
Pot calling the kettle black?
I thought so…
Posted by: MVP | Mar 17, 2009 3:52:
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I never spoke to this issue other than Obama hypocrisy in signing it. I don’t approve of either. Having said that it would be foolish of republicans to unilaterally disarm as these costly projects also buy votes.
A pox on all their houses for this.

This whole thing is off point.
Back on point.
Obama/Geithner funneled 120 Billion dollars overseas to non-taxpaying entities via the AIG bailout
Obama/Geithner allowed almost 200 million to be paid in bonuses, via a Dodd amendment in the stimulus.
Obama/Geithner, claiming they knew how the AIG money was being spent gave them an additional 30 Billion just a couple of weeks ago
Geithner authored the bailout while Bush was in office. Obama approved and continued, indeed even insisted on hiring tax cheat Geithner because this guy “really knows what he is doing”
the public got scre##
and now Obama wants to raise our taxes to support euro-banks via AIG

Someone better tell Pelosi.

I can quote websites too. This is from Freerepublic, which is as biased as factcheck
“Barack and Michelle Obama and the Khalidis swapped dinner parties and Michelle Obama, would babysit the Khalidi’s kids, this was not some casual professional relationship they were good friends as Sean Hannity, reports.”
I live in Obama’s neighborhood and know some of the Obama / Ayers crowd. Ayers and Dohrn have babysat the Obama kids personally. The families are personal friends, not just professional acquaintances.
Neither are reliable as both have agendas and will report only their side of the story.
We should wonder why the media did not simply question Obama on this, with the same energy that they would question any republican.
They sent 30 teams, hundreds of reporters, in to investigate Palin in Alaska during the election , but not a single investigative team into Chicago.

“They sent 30 teams, hundreds of reporters, in to investigate Palin in Alaska during the election , but not a single investigative team into Chicago.”
ROFLMAO!
These recycled right wing myths from the election are priceless?
Would you like to know where this made up fact came from?

can quote websites too. This is from Freerepublic, which is as biased as factcheck
“Barack and Michelle Obama and the Khalidis swapped dinner parties and Michelle Obama, would babysit the Khalidi’s kids, this was not some casual professional relationship they were good friends as Sean Hannity, reports.”
I live in Obama’s neighborhood and know some of the Obama / Ayers crowd. Ayers and Dohrn have babysat the Obama kids personally. The families are personal friends, not just professional acquaintances.
Neither are reliable as both have agendas and will report only their side of the story.
We should wonder why the media did not simply question Obama on this, with the same energy that they would question any republican.
They sent 30 teams, hundreds of reporters, in to investigate Palin in Alaska during the election , but not a single investigative team into Chicago.
Posted by: MNM | Mar 17, 2009 4:16:46 PM
First, Sean Hannity will tell you he’s not a journalist not even close. He reported on all that garbage during the final weeks of the general election to sway voters. LOL, It didnt work. You actually think people with brains would accept whats written by Sean Hannity as true. We know he is a known racist (Sean Hannity), and will do almost anything to stay on the air. Oh, he also a college dropout like fatbaugh, and glen beck. These guys need their jobs b/c they cannot do nothing else, so why make stuff up.
LOL

“non profit, non partisan fact checking organization that goes after both sides!
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I disagree. They are biased.”
How are they biased?

Since everyone on here who is being pessimistic, I have just one phrase for you….
Where were you at election time?
My guess is you either sat at home on your butt feeling sorry for yourself, or you voted for a third party, which by the way is a waste of a vote!
And if you voted for Obama….well I would like to thankyou for your un-informed decision!

“Lets see. . .pushing earmarks, attacking private citizens, wasting public funds, causing diplomatic rows with our strongest allies. . .it seems that Obama is actually doing everything negative Bush was accused of.”
Diplomatic rows and pushing earmarks?!?
The right wing needs to make things up to have something to complain about.

Oh, Barry, I can’t believe you got away with that hilarious remark about telling your teenagers to just say no to drugs. Do as I say, not as I do, right? Of course, he was rushing to get to his punch line so I guess he figured we wouldn’t think twice about the image of this particular president using that particular line.

WE need larger anti government protests. IMPEACH OBAMA. ROLL BACK THE BAIL OUTS.
STOP THE INSANITY NOW.. The capitol needs to be stormed.