Obama Talks Policy, From Pakistan to Tax Plan
ABC News’ Sunlen Miller reports:
President Obama sat down Friday for a 30-minute interview at the White House with Bob Schieffer for CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
AFGHANISTAN: ‘AMERICA’S WAR’
Following Friday’s announcement, Schieffer noted that Afghanistan is the President’s war now.
“I think it’s America’s war,” Obama answered, “and it’s the same war that we initiated after 9/11 as a consequence of those attacks on 3,000 Americans who were just going about their daily round. And– the focus over the last seven years I think has been lost. What we want to do is to refocus attention on al Qaeda. We are going to — root out their networks, their bases. We are gonna make sure that they cannot attack U.S. citizens, U.S. soil, U.S. interests, and our allies’ interests around the world.”
President Obama said he is “under no illusions” that the war was going to be hard.
“What I will say to the American public is that — you know, we now have resourced properly this strategy. It’s not going to be an open-ended commitment of infinite resources,” Obama cautioned, saying that the law of diminishing returns might apply to troop levels, “What I will not do is to simply assume that more troops always results in– an improved situation.”
PAKISTAN: NO U.S. TROOPS
President Obama indicated that the U.S. will consult with the Pakistani government before going after terrorist safe havens in Pakistan – and that that effort not involve, right now, putting U.S. troops on the ground in Pakistan.
“Our plan does not– change the recognition of Pakistan as a sovereign government. We need to work with them and through them to deal with al Qaeda. But we have to hold them much more accountable. And we have to recognize that part of our task in working with Pakistan is not just military. It’s also our capacity to build their capacity through civilian interventions, through development– through aid assistance.
IRAQ: NOT SPEEDING UP WITHDRAWAL
When asked if he would consider speeding up the withdrawal of troops from Iraq, if things are going well enough in the country, Obama said no, that there was still work to be done for the U.S. in Iraq.
“I think the plan that we put forward in Iraq is the right one, which is let’s– have a very gradual withdrawal schedule through the national elections in Iraq. There’s still work to be done on the political side– to resolve differences between the various sectarian groups around issues like oil– around issues like provincial elections.”
MEXICO
Obama indicated that the administration is considering putting U.S. troops on the Mexican border to quell violence in the area.
“Obviously there have been calls to increase– National Guard troops on the borders. That’s something that– we are considering. But we wanna first see whether some of the steps that we’ve taken can help quell some of the violence. And we wanna make sure that– we are con– consulting as effectively as we can with the Mexican government in moving this strategy forward.”
With 90 percent of the guns flowing into Mexico coming from the United States, Obama was asked if he’d reinstate the ban on assault weapons, as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested this week.
“I think the main thing we need is better enforcement. And so– this week we put forward a comprehensive initiative to assist those– border regions that are being threatened by– by these drug cartels– to provide assistance to the Mexican government to make sure that on our side of the border we’ve got more personnel, more surveillance equipment.”
AUTO AID
On Monday, Obama was scheduled to announce his plan to aid the ailing auto industry at the White House.
“They’re not quite there yet,” Obama said of the auto companies. “What we’re trying to let them know is that we want to have a successful auto industry, U.S. auto industry. We think we can have a successful U.S. auto industry. But it’s got to be one that’s realistically designed to weather this storm and to emerge– at the other end– much more– lean, mean, and competitive than it currently is.”
Obama said there is going to have to be a “set of sacrifices from all parties involved” to take serious restructuring steps.
TAX CUTS
Obama said that even though his middle-class tax cut proposal would not be included in the budget – it was cut in negotiations on Capitol Hill – he would be looking for other ways to pass middle-class tax cuts beyond the two years already allotted in the stimulus package.
“I think it’s the right thing to do. What I’ve also said, though, is we’ve gotta pay for it. Now, in my original budget we had a way of paying for it. And some of the proposals that we have made, members of Congress have said, ‘Well, we’re not quite comfortable with that.’ So what’ve I’ve said is– if you don’t wanna pay for it in those ways, let’s find another way to pay for it. I think it’s still the right thing to do. And– I’m gonna be pushing as hard as I can to get it done in this budget. If it’s not done in this budget then I’m gonna keep on pushing for it next year and the year afterwards.”
MEETINGS WITH CEOs
Obama gave a recap of his meeting with bank CEOs at the White House on Friday. He said that the bankers recognized that everybody needs to make sacrifices and that he expects to see some restraint.
“Another way of putting it, as I said– to those folks– let me help you– help me help you. I– it’s very difficult for me as president to call on the American people to make sacrifices to help shore up the financial system if there’s no sense of mutual obligation and– and mutual help."
STRAINED RELATIONSHIPS
Obama was asked if he’s lost friends since being President.
“I don’t think I’ve lost any friends. But I’m sure I’ve strained some friendships,” Obama said. “This is an invigorating job. In some ways, I feel incredibly fortunate to be in this job at a time where the presidency really matters. You know, I’m– this is not a caretaker presidency right now. Every decision we’re making counts.”
–Sunlen Miller
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“President Obama indicated that the U.S. will consult with the Pakistani government before going after terrorist safe havens in Pakistan..”
It surprises me that Obama has not actually put in place a plan or have an agreement in place with the Pakistani government, before announcing his “plan”.
Posted by: Sigmond | March 29, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Obama:Now, in my original budget we had a way of paying for it.
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What way did he have to pay for the tax cuts? We’re in deep deficit spending here. He hasn’t found a way to pay for anything yet.
Obama:You know, I’m– this is not a caretaker presidency right now. Every decision we’re making counts.”
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Every decision a President ever makes counts, Mr. Obama. Sure, this is a trying time, but does he really think the other guys had it easy in the past?
Welcome to the Bigs, Barack Obama.
Posted by: MayBee | March 29, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
put a little red nose on Obama and dye his hair red and what you got? … A socialist clown
Posted by: Obama and his party of clowns | March 29, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
If your own boots aren’t on the foreign soil..it ain’t your war.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | March 29, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
I’m surprised there wasn’t anything here about the GOP ‘underpants gnomes’ economic plan.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
This young person announced to his family and friends that he no longer believed in God or organized religion. Not one person complained, debated or criticized his religious belief choice. Then, he went on to tell everyone he no longer believed in Obama and Obama’s war machinery buildup in Afghanistan . Before he could get the last syllable out of his mouth – about no longer supporting or believing in Obama – he was being castigated, criticized, and called a dummy and a fool.
Posted by: Percy | March 29, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Obama has yet to keep one of his so call promises. Not one!!
He is taking Bush’s plan (already in place) renaming it, have his staff go over it, make a few changes and say now its his plan!!!
This guy is a joke, he cannot lead, he can talk alot of how great he is, but so far no action except more debt, and people scream at Bush, Obama is going to make Bush’s budget look like childs play.
Posted by: Dennis Rick | March 29, 2009, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
It’s hard to believe Obama has only been in office since the end of January. He’s humming on all cylinders. He’s on top of all the key issues and making all the right moves. And he’s keeping us in the loop. He’s off to a great start and I sense that he will only get better and stronger as president as he learns and grows.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | March 29, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Earth to Obama:
YOUR war and YOUR economy.
Put on your big-girl panties, Obama, and take responsibility.
Posted by: Michelle | March 29, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
I don’t like Obama’s plans on Mexico. He needs to end Bush’s policy called “Plan Mexico,” also called “The Merida Plan.” That’s the money that’s arming the drug cartels. Thousands of innocent people have died in Mexico because of this. Militarizing Mexico is not the answer.
Prohibition didn’t work and neither has the war on drugs. Now it’s turning into a real war.
If we have a major military conflict on our doorstep, I will blame Obama because he has the opportunity to prevent it.
Posted by: Joan | March 29, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
party of clown: Guess you would know …
Posted by: R Mutt | March 29, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
Re: “He is taking Bush’s plan (already in place) renaming it, have his staff go over it, make a few changes and say now its his plan!!!”
Exactly! He did that during the campaign with Hillary’s ideas. He would just take her ideas and call them his own.
Posted by: Joan | March 29, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
To solve the border crisis we must stop our drug use. Say no to drugs America!
On the foreign policy stuff: Wow should of listened to Ron Paul. The cost of every one of those missiles we drop could pay for a family for life. The total cost of the wars could of built all sorts of skyscrapers.
Posted by: Huh | March 29, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
I’m told that cigarettes are going up a dollar a pack next Thursday. I’m told it is the Obama tax. That’s what the gas station attendents are calling it.
I make 13,000 a year. How can I expect to pay this new tax when I was promised I wouldn’t see an increase in any of my taxes.
So what happened?
Posted by: UW Student | March 29, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
The Bamster is going to crack. Just watch. It’ll happen.
Posted by: Kitty | March 29, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
I hope we can get rid of this black Jimmy Carter before he does too much damage to our country. Even Bush was more honest and straight forward when talking to the American people. Obama is like a big dumb kid. Lying right tot he press and the people. The press won’t call him onit, but we will. Get ready for backlash. Remember, it was only 52% to 48%..and a lot of those who he fooled the first time, “won’t get fooled again”!!!!!
Posted by: Oblahblah | March 29, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
About his online townhall get together, Obama said he likes to engage his critics.
The online questions he chose were all from his supporters, some who worked for the DNC or on his campaign.
Barry’s mask slips alittle every single day. No class-No clue-No credibility.
Posted by: tyler | March 29, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
I’m told that cigarettes are going up a dollar a pack next Thursday. I’m told it is the Obama tax. That’s what the gas station attendents are calling it.
I make 13,000 a year. How can I expect to pay this new tax when I was promised I wouldn’t see an increase in any of my taxes.
So what happened?
You belived the liar. What he meant was…don’t eat food, don’t drive a vehicle, don’t have any hobbies, or try to enjoy life. You are supposed to be a robot; specifically an Obamabot! You only live for your government and do what they say and they will take care of you from the cradle to the grave. But remember, don’t think for yourself, don’t try to have any fun, and most of all don’t question the all mighty OZ!
So “silence, whippersnapper’s, the great and powerful OZ has spoken!
Posted by: Badboy | March 29, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
HOpesprings 52, Thanks for the post. I needed a good laugh today. So, they forgot to hand out specific talking points before they sent you guys out to post today?
Posted by: Terry Lane | March 29, 2009, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
No taxes on the middle class.
Oh except for gas, heat, electricity, cell phones, cigarettes, and probably food.
Something Obama forgot to mention in his campaign.
The man is a total fraud.
Posted by: sammy | March 29, 2009, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“I hope we can get rid of this black Jimmy Carter before he does too much damage to our country.”
He’s barely “black”, and NOTHING like Jimmy Carter. He’s more like Bush, right down to the phony accent … Bush’s Midland mush-mouth, Der CHANGEling’s stopping Himself in mid-sentence to pronounce “ee” sounds as “ih”.
Nothing Obama’s doing is NOT reminiscent of Bush. Baited and switched again. Hmm.
Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 29, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Obama tossed a bone to keep people quiet-$14 a week.
I guess BO thinks that will cover all the tax increases on everything we need to live.
He’s a millionaire who lectures us about how we should cut back–but he doesn’t.
Obama is out of touch and clueless.
Posted by: bailey | March 29, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
“I think it’s America’s war,” Obama answered, “and it’s the same war that we initiated after 9/11 as a consequence of those attacks on 3,000 Americans who were just going about their daily round.
What an absolute crock. And to facilitate His “war president” progression, Der CHANGEling’s even caved on dont-ask-dont-tell … and gays WERE the only group of former supporters He hadn’t sold out yet.
Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 29, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Finally someone in charge. GO OBAMA
Posted by: rats | March 29, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
He’s not the first black president.
He’s the first biracial president.
But somehow I don’t think he would have won if he had called himself biracial.
That just doesn’t sound as cool, Hollywood, or historic.
And Barry is all about being a cool celebrity.
Posted by: riley | March 29, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
LET’S HOPE that someone with real military smarts is running the Afganistan effort. I know that Mr. O’Babble “thought about” joining the military after high school but I hardly think that qualifies him as a military strategist.
Posted by: Ron | March 29, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
The president is going the wrong way. Our wars are because other nations do not want our ways. If we change our ways to being decent, modest, honest,and God loving (as we say we are), the radical enemies will talk about their errors of excess.
Our economic ways are oppressive. This toxic assets plan to stimulate the economy does not help the multitudes with the toxic assets. Geithner was raised and taught about the same system that brought on the toxic assets; he knows no other way. Good intentions of wanting more people to be able to purchase homes created this mess. Now he wants to put those toxic assets on the backs of the taxpayers so he can give the banks more money to repeat the same system. We are going the wrong way.
His plan as outlined on Sunday, March 29, 2009 news programs has investors gambling five (5) million dollars; the Feds also gambling five (5) million dollars, and the FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corp) putting up sixty(60) million dollars to purchase $100,000 face value mortgages discounted to a cost of $70,000. The toxic assets are still overpriced homes in the hands of people unable to pay the mortgage. If the houses that were mortgaged for $100,000 are now only worth $70,000, no buyer or bank will buy or refinance that mortgage at $100,000. The mortgage will default; will be foreclosed and be unlikely to sell. There is no telling what happens to that house before resale. All involved will be losers, the “owner”, the bank, the investor, government and taxpayers.
There are better ways; God has the best way, but until we are willing to call upon Him and trust Him, we will talk about our financial system changes. Our system adds at least $462 a month to the cost of a $100,000 mortgage (assuming a steady 5% interest and ½ % Fannie Mae insurance charge.) God warned against debt, interest, insurance, gambling, seeking riches, honor and pride in all holy books. The banks or investor can erase the interest charges; instead charge a small monthly handling fee. That decreases the cost of the house for the owner by $462 a month ($5,500 a year), making more people able to continue in their homes. (Note: a $200,000 mortgage saves $924 a month and $11,000 a year.) There is now great incentive to stay in the home if possible; if it is not possible, the opportunity for someone else to come in and buy the house is better. The value of the house increases and an investor or bank without government intervention taking some of the profit has a better investment and is not under God’s condemnation for oppressing the poor. This plan of eliminating interest is good for automoble purchases, credit card purchases and commercial purchases. (God has an even better plan when we want to turn from our ways to His ways.)
Posted by: Marie Devine | March 29, 2009, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
“LET’S HOPE that someone with real military smarts is running the Afganistan effort.”
Were THAT the case, they’d be outta there.
Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 29, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Hopesprings52…it is this support and positive thinking that will enhance all the Obama is doing. I believe he has communicated with the American people more in the last two months than old bubble brain bush did in 8 years.
Posted by: VITAL2U | March 29, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
Rededicating to a failed goal of going after Al Qaeda and hunting down Osama is unlikely to win over the people in the region. The goal should be to marginalize and contain Al Qaeda and render it irrelevant to the people of the region. All Al Qaeda is doing is feeding on the poverty and lack of opportunity to live a meaningful life and if the masses are not well looked after and have a reason to live peaceful prosperous lives Al Qaeda will grow no matter how many armed forces land in their territory. Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of the past and change their ways are destined to make the same mistakes and face the same consequences. I hope that after the trillions spent and the brave lives lost since the soviet invasion in 1979 to our presence in 2009, that we do not have to witness the scenes similar to the fall of Saigon. On the other hand a simple military victory is a shallow victory if we have not won the people over and drawn them away from terrorism and Al Qaeda.
Posted by: gjkotw01 | March 29, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
well this is the first time doing this but i could not stay quit any more all that has gone on is just getting wose if you bring those people from that jail in to the U.S. that my husbun is a vet from vet-nam an we had to fight for every thing we go just as thay are now he has 6 puplt heart a bronze star an the solder metal but you know what it got him nothing anhe has PTSD an he is still fighting the wor every night he will not even put them on the wall an to let you bring people in here an give them every thing the we had to work so heard for it is just like back in the days when thay let the vet nam people an gave them a busness for a dollar
all the things you have sead have not been true but that is the way it is with your party in there diane from colorado
Posted by: diane | March 29, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
“This moron is just making it up as he goes. What a disaster.”
It’s a disaster all right, but … the “troops” — and “contractors”? — are for Afghanistan.
For killing PAKISTANis there are robo-drones.
Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 29, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Obama just won’t accept the responsibility for fighting a war.
So it’s gone from Bush’s war to America’s war.
The man has no guts.
And you can bet our enemies know that.
Must be hard for Obama to admit that his charm just isn’t enough in Afghanistan–that only works on the suckers in America.
Posted by: ross | March 29, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Sounds like Bush is in his 3rd term. Iraq is still going on. More troops to Afghanistan. Spend, spend, spend.
Posted by: t hill | March 29, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Last Friday Obama asked Congress to pass a bill that will TRIPLE “aid” to Pakistan to $1.5 billion dollars a year for five years. Obama also appointed Martin Feldstein to The Task Force on Tax Reform.
Mr. Feldstein is on the Board of Directors
at AIG. The Board that gave AIG bonuses.
OUTRAGEOUS !!!!
Posted by: CW | March 29, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Mr. Obama has always been a liar. He keeps telling us to show restraint, embrace forgiveness and peace. Now he still want to hunt Bin Ladin and the terrorists.
Posted by: young_voter | March 29, 2009, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
Wow, you can really tell that the Obama hating faction doesn’t have to work weekends…
Posted by: jhw539 | March 29, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
I’m told that cigarettes are going up a dollar a pack next Thursday. I’m told it is the Obama tax. That’s what the gas station attendents are calling it.
I make 13,000 a year. How can I expect to pay this new tax when I was promised I wouldn’t see an increase in any of my taxes.
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Stop Smoking?
Posted by: Thinking | March 29, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
what a bunch of phoney baloney…this idiot thinks giving more taxpayers money to the automakers so they can build cars that are too expensive for us to buy is the answer???? reminds me of the bank bailout…we had to give them more money so they can extend us credit….also bailed out Wall Street so they can continue to sell off their stocks at our expense…why not cut out the middle men (and the government)and just give money directly to the taxpayers…it is our money to begin with!!!Obama is a slick talking con artist criminal….he may be the worst president in the history of our country!!!!
Posted by: Badboy | March 29, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
I’m told that cigarettes are going up a dollar a pack next Thursday. I’m told it is the Obama tax. That’s what the gas station attendents are calling it.
I make 13,000 a year. How can I expect to pay this new tax when I was promised I wouldn’t see an increase in any of my taxes.
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Stop Smoking?
Yes and stop eating…stop driving…
stop doing anything because Oblahblah
will figure out how to tax it…all while saying he wont raise taxes on 95%
of Americans. Just follow the rules and Oblahblah and his big government can take care of you from the cradle to the grave! That is what liberals want…you to be so dependent on government that you wont be able to make a decision on your own. Oblahblah, Frank, Dodd, Pelosi and Reid will take care of you and the rest of the world as well….
all you have to do is foot the bill…
Posted by: Oblahblah | March 29, 2009, 5:18 pm 5:18 pm
President Obama has raised the bar of the office to a new high. He communicates by listening as well as speaking, and what he says makes sense, even if I don’t always agree. I feel sorry for you people who post such hateful garbage about him and try to turn others against him too. I am so glad you are the radical fringe and not the mainstream.
Posted by: phoenix lady | March 29, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
I am glad you people are happy!
Posted by: Thinking | March 29, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Re: “President Obama has raised the bar of the office to a new high.”
No, he hasn’t. He’s like Reagan reading everything off a teleprompter. I can see using one for a speech, but not for a press conference or a town hall. That’s what his hero Reagan used to do.
When I hear Obama, I fell that he is saying what he has been told to say. It’s his job to sell the American people more wars and more bailouts.
Posted by: Joan | March 29, 2009, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
phoenix lady,
conservatives really hate it when you remind them that their movement has destroyed the country.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
From the nation’s most accurate pollster:
“Fifty-eight percent (58%) of voters now think politics in Washington, D.C. will be more partisan over the next year rather than more cooperative. That’s up from 49% a month ago, 40% two months ago, and 34% in early January.
“The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that just 26% expect things to be more cooperative. That’s down from 48% in early January.
“Half of U.S. voters (50%) now believe President Barack Obama is governing as a partisan Democrat. That’s up seven points from a month ago and eleven points from two months ago.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 29, 2009, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
“I think the plan that we put forward in Iraq is the right one, which is let’s– have a very gradual withdrawal schedule through the national elections in Iraq. There’s still work to be done on the political side– to resolve differences between the various sectarian groups around issues like oil– around issues like provincial elections.”
George Bush won the war for him, and in the process defeated Al Qaeda in what Al Qaeda declared was the central front in the jihad against the West. Let’s hope this callow, inexperienced youth doesn’t squander what was bequeathed to him.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 29, 2009, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Concerned, its touching you carry a torch for a CEO who oversaw a 98% drop in the value of his company’s shares, killed its electric car and refused to put resources into developing hybrids.
Maybe his resignation is a result of the fact that he’s a screw up.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Guantanamo detainees held hostage, Day 69.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 29, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Personally, I am glad the president uses a teleprompter if that is what helps him to communicate effectively. He is also articulate when speaking off the cuff, but if he says one unscripted thing, all the Obama bashers are all over his back like a bunch of blood sucking leeches. I don’t blame him for wanting to stay on message and insulate himself from those attacks.
I think it is amusing to hear Republicans, the champions of the unregulated CEOs who basically raped their own companies into oblivion, calling Obama a “liberal fascist” for not wanting to carry forward the same pro-CEO philosophy. I think he will go down in history as a moderate and a very great president.
Posted by: Phoenix lady | March 29, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
Re: “Personally, I am glad the president uses a teleprompter if that is what helps him to communicate effectively.”
Teleprompters are for actors who need to read their lines. I want a President who knows the issues and what he thinks about them. The last president who could speak on his own was Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Joan | March 29, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
If that is what the right wing has against him, the use of the teleprompter, you are really reaching. If you think he doesn’t know the issues, I think you are very much mistaken. He is obviously a quick study and has a sharp insight into what is happening on dozens of fronts. What he doesn’t like to do is come off as hemming and hawing or trying too hard to think on his feet. therefore, he prepares his remarks and uses the teleprompter. since he generally makes several public appearances each day, I don’t fault him for that. If you can’t stand him and want someone else, I guess you’ll just have to vote for someone else in the next election. The bottom line is, you will hate whoever our guy is, we will hate whoever your guy is, and it doesn’t matter how good or bad a leader they turn out to be. It just goes on and on to the point that there is really no point in posting or reading these posts. Everyone has their mind completely made up, or else they are professional trolls, just trying to keep the pot stirred. It is probably not the highest and best use of anyone’s time.
Posted by: phoenix lady | March 29, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
phoenix lade:”we will hate whoever your guy is,”
Speak for yourself. I rather liked Bush Sr. He is very intelligent man who was railroaded by the media out of a second term. I take the way the Republican base turned on him for raising taxes – a move necessary for the good of our nation – as the beginning of the Republican Fundamentalism that ultimately drove them into the uselessness of today.
Posted by: jhw539 | March 29, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Concerned, it is a breath of fresh air, after eight years of private business controlling government.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Before you get snarky about corporations’ role in serving the Common Good, perhaps you should remember that corporations are in fact chartered by the government because that is precisely the role that they are SUPPOSED to fulfill.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 8:24 pm 8:24 pm
So now the GM’s success or failure is President Obama’s success or failure.
That works.
Anyone planning on buying a new American car?
Posted by: Plumber | March 29, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Obama Policy on DEFICITS = He is against them before being FOR THEM.
His budget on Page 1 will propose to take 5yrs to cut the 1.5 Trillion Deficit created in 8 yrs by Bush by making cuts in the military..
Then…Obama Budget on Page 2 proposed to CREATE HIS OWN 3+ Trillion in Deficite spending (Health, Education, Renewables)
Then ..Obama Budget on Page 3 proposes to CREATE 7-10 Trillion in Deficite spending in the next 10 yrs.
But the only part of the above you will hear is the Democrat talking point which will emphasize the HALF TRUTH of wanting to “cut the deficite in half”.
Posted by: Neville | March 29, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
This IS Obama’s war. It is not America’s war, because that implies we all support it or are required to support it. I know a lot about Afghanistan personally, and Obama has made a huge blunder, and one that has moral ramifications.
President Obama, this is YOUR war.
Posted by: PeterM | March 29, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Obama wants to make cuts in military spending and use the “savings” to pay down one half of the 1.5 trillion in deficite spending created during the 8 yrs under Bush..
But then Obama ALSO proposes 3+ trillion in deficits spending in his first year ….while also proposing a 7-10 trillion in deficit spending over the next decade…
Sheer madness and hypocracy in my opinion…as well as a DELIBERATE ATTEMPT to mislead the American people regarding the phoney claim in their talking point of “wanting to cut the deficit (Bush 1.5 trillion deficit) in half.
Posted by: Neville | March 29, 2009, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
PeterM:”This IS Obama’s war. It is not America’s war”
Afghanistan harbored and supported a paramilitary group that directly perpetrated the worse attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor. Afghanistan IS America’s war, it is a justified war, and it is important. There is certainly A LOT of room to critique strategy, but it is foolish or naive to think this is not America’s war.
Posted by: jhw539 | March 29, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
jhw539: I actually agree with you, and I speaking rhetorically. I liked George Sr pretty well myself, and there are other Repubs I think are good, like charlie crist in Fla and Gen Powell. He is one of my heroes. I never hear republicans granting any ground or credit to the other side however. If we had the best president on the planet, they would still bash him to pieces for being a Democrat.
Posted by: phoenix lady | March 29, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
phoenix lady: “I never hear republicans granting any ground or credit to the other side however.”
I agree, but I think this will change in the next 4 years. If they follow typical political cycles, after 2010 the Republicans will come back into the mainstream and be useful again. The Southern Strategy, from Nixon to Rove, is dead.
Posted by: jhw539 | March 29, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Homeland Security First,& Create Jobs By Protecting the Borders,& Ports, By Hireing American Citizens. That would be a major stimulas & a no brainer for security. I thought BHO was going to “Shake Up Washington.”
Posted by: from Ohio | March 29, 2009, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Re: “If that is what the right wing has against him, the use of the teleprompter, you are really reaching. If you think he doesn’t know the issues, I think you are very much mistaken.”
I’m a liberal Democrat. Secondly, you are comparing him to Bush, and compared to Bush, yes, Obama looks good. Anyone would. But I am old enough to remember Presidents who could speak without the teleprompter, and I see the difference.
Obama has never spoken about public policy in-depth without the teleprompter and without commercial breaks. I would like to see him do one hour on Charlie Rose without knowing the questions ahead of time and without his teleprompter.
Yeah right!
Posted by: Joan | March 29, 2009, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Concerned in OH:”"Before you get snarky about corporations’ role in serving the Common Good, perhaps you should remember that corporations are in fact chartered by the government because that is precisely the role that they are SUPPOSED to fulfill.”
False. States charter corporations (not the federal government) for the sole benefit of their shareholders.”
In the US, they were originally chartered to promote the “common good.” This is a matter of historical record. It is also a position promoted by Adam Smith (corporations precede America). Personally, I’ll take the opinion of the father of capitalism over a dull internet troll.
Posted by: jhw539 | March 29, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Obama’s war?
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those
responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United
States. <>
This is what authorized the war in Afghanistan. We have been wafing that war ever sense.
Did Obama take command of the war? You bet he did, as he should. Cheney/Bush on the other hand left it hang out there to dry, turning it over to NATO, SUBMITTING OUR FORCES to foreign command.
Posted by: Thinking | March 29, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
The last part was supposed to read.
Sept. 18, 2001 – [S.J. Res. 23
Posted by: Thinking | March 29, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Whats good for GM is obviously not whats good for America.
If Adam Smith were to discuss corporations and tax policy on this board, he would be denounced as a socialist.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
The Culture of Corruption:
“As Democrats prepared to take control of Congress after the 2006 elections, a top boss at the insurance giant American International Group Inc. told colleagues that Sen. Christopher J. Dodd was seeking re-election donations and he implored company executives and their spouses to give.
“The message in the Nov. 17, 2006, e-mail from Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products chief executive, was unmistakable: Mr. Dodd was ‘next in line’ to be chairman of the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee, which oversees the insurance industry, and he would “have the opportunity to set the committee’s agenda on issues critical to the financial services industry.
“‘Given his seniority in the Senate, he will also play a key role in the Democratic Majority’s leadership,’ Mr. Cassano wrote in the message, obtained by The Washington Times.
“Mr. Dodd’s campaign quickly hit pay dirt, collecting more than $160,000 from employees and their spouses at the AIG Financial Products division (AIG-FP) in Wilton, Conn., in the days before he took over as the committee chairman in January 2007. Months later, the senator transferred the donations to jump-start his 2008 presidential bid, which later failed.”
Is there no depth to which this utterly base, corrupt political party will not stoop?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 29, 2009, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
How can it be that, on Mr. Obama’s watch, North Korea announces its intention to launch an ICBM prototype and the Secretary of Defense announces that we are unprepared to stop it?
This man is obviously unsuited for the job of Commander-in-Chief. He is in way over his head, and the consequences will be quite dire.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 29, 2009, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
Wagoner didn’t have to step down. GM wanted the welfare money, and thats the price. They didn’t have to take the money.
This is exactly what they should have done with the banks.
Unfortunately, Obama’s financial team is filled with right wing ideologues and Wall Street stooges.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm
..right wing ideologues and Wall Street stooges.”
That was redundant, wasn’t it?
Posted by: Flash Override | March 29, 2009, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
Never mind Adam Smith, if Jesus H. Christ rolled in on a bicycle you’d shout SOCIALIST at him.
And then complain about the bicycle.
Posted by: R Mutt | March 29, 2009, 10:52 pm 10:52 pm
Sluggo:
Since you’re a regular “SOCIALIST” shouter here, please define it in a way that makes sense with regard to Obama.
Cuz I don’t get it.
Posted by: R Mutt | March 29, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
p.s. Would love to know what your ‘grounds for impeachment’ are …
Good luck answering both questions!
Posted by: R Mutt | March 29, 2009, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Facist Hyena:”How can it be that, on Mr. Obama’s watch, North Korea announces its intention to launch an ICBM prototype and the Secretary of Defense announces that we are unprepared to stop it?”
The previous administration couldn’t even keep that dictatorship from getting a nuclear bomb. I don’t see a problem with Obama not stooping to play North Korea’s whose-spittle-flies-the-furthest nonsense. Perhaps speak softly and carry a big stick will work better than Bush’s shout “Bring it on!” and then swagger off to the ranch to clear brush while the nuke test is done.
Posted by: jhw539 | March 29, 2009, 11:18 pm 11:18 pm
Concerned in Ohio:”If Adam Smith were to discuss corporations and tax policy on this board, you people would smear him as a racist for opposing 0bama’s policies.”
You don’t even know his fundamental works on the form and functions of corporations, so it is not surprising that you have to cuddle your straw man and throwout unsupported slander.
Posted by: jhw539 | March 29, 2009, 11:22 pm 11:22 pm
“Completely and utterly false. Adam Smith believed that individuals acting in their own self-interest would benefit the common good. He believed a person maximizing his own revenues in turn maximized the revenues of his community. He called that the “invisible hand”.”
Why is it right wingers always have the cliff notes version (at best) of various theories as passed along by right wing media?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 30, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
“I would like to see him do one hour on Charlie Rose without knowing the questions ahead of time and without his teleprompter.”
Well let’s see Obama was on Charlie Rose in 2004 and again in 2006.
You can see the interviews on u tube
Still care to repeat the right wing teleprompter meme?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 30, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Al-Qaeda, China, Russia, or north Korea would be completely mistaken to test this president and the American people resolve, with any of their aggression, I’ll admit, we are at this moment pointing fingers at each other because of our economic condition, but that is how our forbearers form our democracy with checks and balances because we value our principles, Dwight D .Eisenhower put it this way (A people that values its privileges above it’s principles soon loses both. You see one of our principles is that we value our freedom, we realizes that it is a privilege that has been paid for with a heavy price, and for that reason any aggressive threats to take away or undermine our freedoms in one accord both democrats, independent and republicans a like, than our finger pointing becomes a fist against thee aggressors.
Posted by: reachingout2u | March 30, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
“I don’t see a problem with Obama not stooping to play North Korea’s whose-spittle-flies-the-furthest nonsense. Perhaps speak softly and carry a big stick will work better than Bush’s shout”
It’s Obama’s watch now. We will have to wait and see what Obama does to prevent North Korea and Iran from obtaining nukes and missiles to launch them.
Posted by: Sigmond | March 30, 2009, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Sunlen,
Why do you quote him as saying “wanna” instead of “want to”? Are you mocking him? I would mock him for his autocratic idiocy and incompetence, but not his diction, and I find your tactic a bit discomfiting. It’s almost as if you’re intentionally editorializing by pretending to quote him “accurately.” That is unprofessional, you know. Stop it. He looks bad without your help, and you look bad, too.
Posted by: tanarg | March 31, 2009, 5:50 am 5:50 am