Obama White House Discloses Two More Lobbyist Waivers Granted
The White House Tuesday evening disclosed that almost three weeks ago the Obama administration granted ethics wavers for two additional officials who had previously worked as lobbyists. On February 20 the administration signed waivers for Jocelyn Frye, former general counsel at the National Partnership for Women & Families, and Cecilia Muñoz, the former senior vice president for the National Council of La Raza, allowing them to work on issues for which they lobbied.
These two are in addition to deputy Defense Secretary Bill Lynn, a former Raytheon lobbyist whose waiver was granted two days after President Obama announced on January 21 what he heralded as the most sweeping ethics rules in American history — ones that would "close the revolving door that lets lobbyists come into government freely."
The Executive Order on Ethics Commitments by Executive Branch Personnel requires that lobbyists who become members of Obama administration will not be able to work on matters they lobbied on for two years, or in the agencies they lobbied during the previous two years. Out of approximately 800 executive branch appointments, three waivers have been granted, the Obama administration said.
Not all of the former lobbyists entering the administration have required the formal waivers; the White House has also required incoming administration officials who worked as lobbyists to write letters of recusal, indicating issues that they will stay away from dealing with because of their previous jobs. But those letters of recusal have not yet been disclosed.
Frye’s waiver, signed by Norm Eisen, the special counsel to the President and designate agency ethics official, states that it’s "in the public interest to grant the waiver because Ms. Fry’s expertise in the areas in which she acted as a registered lobbyist is essential to her service to the Office of the First Lady." Frye, director of policy and projects in the Office of the First Lady, has "a particular focus on women, families and on engagement with the greater D.C. community," the White House says. Having directed the National Partnership’s Workplace Fairness Program in her previous job, she focused on "employment and gender discrimination issues, with a particular emphasis on employment barriers facing women of color and low-income women."
Muñoz’s waiver was granted also in the public interest "because Ms. Munoz’s knowledge and expertise are vital to the functioning of the Office of Intergovernmental Affairs," Eisen wrote. As director of intergovernmental affairs in the Executive Office of the President, Muñoz is chief liaison to the Latino community, in addition to coordinating with state and local governments. signed by Norm Eisen, the special counsel to the President and designate agency ethics official, states that it’s "in the public interest to grant the waiver because Ms. Fry’s expertise in the areas in which she acted as a registered lobbyist is essential to her service to the Office of the First Lady."
"We took the rare step of granting the waivers to Ms. Frye and Ms. Muñoz because of the importance of their respective positions and because of each woman’s unequalled qualifications for her job," Eisen said. "Each is a leading substantive expert on the relevant issue areas and each also has long-standing relationships with constituencies important to their respective offices."
– jpt

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“I am running to tell the lobbyists in Washington that their days of setting the agenda are over. They have not funded my campaign. They won’t work in my White House.” – Barack Obama
Posted by: Oh Please | March 10, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Anyone else remember when BHO mocked HRC and JM for going back on their word (or changing their stories) during the primaries and general election respectively?? Seems that he cannot seem to keep his word either. he is either a BIG FAT LIAR or he just believes like all politicans do that Americans are stupid, short-sighted slobs. For some reason, I think that there is a bit of truth in both of those statements. This article, and the revelation therein, is just another example of this “post-partisian” man being nothing more than the typical politician!
Posted by: Niko_in_Oakland | March 10, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
well, technically they probably won’t be working IN the White House.
Posted by: vinman | March 10, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Kind of reminds me of Bill Clinton during his impeachment proceedings: Whether President Obama lied about not wanting lobbyists working in the White House depends upon the meaning of the word “in.”
Posted by: Niko_in_Oakland | March 10, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Oh there are more waivers than that.
Posted by: Plumber | March 10, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
I’m glad he’s doing this. We’re in a full blown crisis, and we need to get the government staffed. Pragmatically speaking, if you eliminate anyone who’s ever been a lobbyist, you cut out a lot of good people.
The good thing about Obama’s approach is that these people are flagged and put on public view. They are now under an ethical magnifying glass. Effectively, they’re going to have to be especially careful about conflicts of interest. I don’t see the problem.
Of course, the haters will grab any possible opportunity to tear Obama down. That’s just pathetic.
Posted by: Tungsten | March 10, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
This is the “new kind of politics” Obama promised.
It’s the same politics but since Obama said it Democrats will believe it’s different.
They’re soooooooo easy.
Posted by: drjohn | March 10, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Jake
It’s really nice to have an MSM news blog to visit where I am not going to get angry with the author.
Thanks much!
Posted by: drjohn | March 10, 2009, 9:08 pm 9:08 pm
Well, he is an educated man, and he should have known that he would need lobbyists in order to get the work of the American people done. Regardless of whether we are in a crisis or not, he made the comments, now they are coming back to bite him in the butt. I don’t care about lobbyists being in the White House or any part of the government for that matter as long as they are working for what’s in the best interest of the country. It obviously was a big thing for BHO as he made it a large part of his campaign. My point in my comments, and I think in the minds of many is simple: you pledge to “clean” the government of lobbyists and stated that he was not the typical politician. His actions, on many occasions, have shown those words to ring HOLLOW. Don’t make campaign pledges unless you intend to stick to them.
Posted by: Niko_in_Oakland | March 10, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Gee there were complaints and doubts just a couple of days ago in the press, about Obama’s ban.
So which is it Good thing or bad thing?
These two worked for a non profit group that supports Obama policies. Well I would think he would want them.
Now if they lobbied for a for profit group like industry I would have more doubts, as industry already has more influence than they should.
I can see however if you opposed the policies that one would a object, if on the other hand if he hired someone who worked for the Oil companies, some of you might rejoice, I on the other hand would be upset.
So there we have it.
Posted by: Thinking | March 10, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Office of The First Lady???? What the heck is that??
Posted by: pesiri | March 10, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Maybe it is time for President Obama to take some advice from folks who thought there would be ‘change’ in the right direction, and that HE WOULD follow through on what he promised that he would do! At present, terribly DISAPPOINTED! He may have to learn that DISAPPOINTMENT affects BOTH PARTIES!
Think he should take the following under advisement:
1) Select cabinet members who are not tax cheats!
2) Stop the new Attorney General from calling the nation ‘cowards’ and fueling divisiveness.
3) At least in the beginning, ADHERE to the promises made regarding doing away with EARMARKS and PORK BARREL spending; and keeping lobbyists out of key cabinet positions. REMEMBER — YOU HAVE VETO POWERS!! Now that the FY 2009 Appropriations Bill has been approved, you can veto it if you do not want to fund over 8,500 earmarks! (NO MORE EXCUSES!)
4) Cease talking down business, and attempting to make successful enterprises the enemy! You will have to rely on them to pay the bills for your initiatives.
5) Refrain from speaking of the ‘stock market’ in a cavalier way since there are millions of Americans who had depended upon the ‘market’ for their retirement through planning their own futures (401k and IRAs). At age 70, one’s options are limited, BUT WE STILL VOTE!
6) Do not use tax payer money to bail out individuals who were not disciplined enough to think through personal financial obligations before committing to same. THIS IS REWARDING RISKY BEHAVIOR — AT OUR EXPENSE! (Many of us learned the hard way as well, and came out the better for it!)
7) Stop blaming the current situation on your predecessor when your own party has had both chambers of Congress for over two years — WHICH YOU WERE A MEMBER — and, Barney Franks and Chris Dodd were in charge of the Congressional Banking Committees. Additionally, you had friends in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae ( Mr. Raines and Mr. Johnson). This just causes folks who vote for you to question their own judgment as to whether or not they chose a guy NOT UP TO THE TASK!
8) The ‘bipartisanship’ touted during the campaign to be brought to Washington by the Obama Administration is not a ‘one way street’, or a night at the Whitehouse watching a movie or a game. It requires mutual trust, compromise, and demonstrated
credibility .. with true bipartisanship. Beating up on Eric Cantor — or the ‘boogey person’ of the day is not a recommended strategy. Suggest the process begin!
9) Refrain from using the Whitehouse to attempt to silence critics– Jim Cramer, Rush Limbaugh, Rick Santelli and now Eric Cantor. It cheapens the office, and causes one to seriously question your priorities when we are in a serious economic crisis. Refer to item #8. Remember, this is not Chicago politics!
10) Deal more with substance rather than style, including weaning yourself from the teleprompter.
11) If in charge, TAKE CHARGE — that includes engaging the Speaker of the House. SHE IS NOT THE CO-PRESIDENT!
12) Daily pronouncements/speeches (stem cell research and education as examples) without detail plans; impacts on citizens; specific objectives and outcomes — NOT GENERALITIES; and the costs; are really a waste of time, and you will find that your bully pulpit will rapidly become an ordinary soap box — made of cardboard. Please do the homework before calling a crowd and saying ‘nothing’.
13) Bring on a chief of protocol who can keep the Whitehouse and State Department straight, where there will be fewer embarrassments — such as we suffered (and still suffering) the week of March 2d. That was pretty sophomoric.
14) LISTEN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE — NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO THINK THEY ARE SAYING, BUT, WHAT THEY ARE SAYING!! MAKE US WANT TO SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS, NOT — REGRET OUR VOTE OF NOVEMBER 4!!
Credibility of a leader is EARNED — IT IS NOT BESTOWED.
Posted by: GrannyCares | March 10, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
At this time I have lost complete faith in this administration. They make more excuses for breaking promises than the American people should have to tolerate.
Lies told and an amazing amount of money spent to buy the election is just wrong for the country.
Posted by: William | March 10, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
LISTEN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE — NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO THINK THEY ARE SAYING, BUT, WHAT THEY ARE SAYING!! MAKE US WANT TO SUPPORT YOUR EFFORTS, NOT — REGRET OUR VOTE OF NOVEMBER 4!!
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So Far the polls indicate that he is doing just that!
Posted by: Thinking | March 10, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Never met a lobbyist he never liked. He promised “Change”, he never specified that it would be his positions… That’s why Pastor Wright was right: “He’s just another politician!” Amen, brother Wright! At least somebody is honor bound to speak the truth to power.
Posted by: hmn... | March 10, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Obama says: These lobbyists won’t be working in the White House as I promised. Let’s be clear. They will be be working in the Executive Office Building. There is a distinction. At least there should be.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 10, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Mr. Obama is a serial liar.
Posted by: young_voter | March 10, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
How’s that hope and change working out for you Obama drones?
Since Obama’s inauguration:
- Dow has lost 32% of its value
- Obama snubs UK Prime Minister, humiliates him with DVDs
- More proposed spending than all previous administrations combined
- Will sign card check which will kill even more jobs, will sign FOCA which will kill more unborn babies, signed embroynic stem-cell research throwing more tax dollars down an unproven rathole, issues more executive orders than Bush or Clinton
- Closing Gitmo which will release more terrorist scum back into the battlefield
- More candidates have been forced to resign (tax cheats) or turned down cabinet positions in presidential history; Obama’s administration is full of empty positions, especially at Treasury
Jimmy Carter can rest easy now. Obama is about to become the worst, most destructive president in American history.
Posted by: Fox Valley | March 10, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
I’d like to add, before you criticize me and bash Bush, well go ahead, because I was also critical of Bush too. But at least under Bush, people had jobs, gas was relatively cheap, the nation was secure. All of this changed when the socialist Dems (thanks to gutless and equally socialist Republicans) took over Congress in 2006. That’s when the market began its decline. People get the gov’t they deserve, I just wish people would understand the issues instead of letting Washington blowhards and hacks tell them who to vote for.
Posted by: Fox Valley | March 10, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Alright look folks, the key word here is previous. ..they were lobbyists, now they are not. Ya’ll are acting as if lobbyist are evil human beings,..the enemy..like ..like Al Qaeda. They’re folks… and like all folks some are good, some are not.
so, to review..ex lobbyist are not the enemy, they are not felons and if they are qualified..they should get the job
This should not even be a news issue..but It appears some Media personalities like..no ..need attention.
Sorry that I had to dumb it down for ya’ll..but after reading these posts I felt obligated to do so.
Posted by: genia | March 10, 2009, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Obama made it very clear during the campaign that Lobbyists would NOT be working in his administration. Now he is grating ETHICS waivers. What Obama needs to do now is grant himself a ETHICS waiver because he has no ethics at all. To blatantly lie to the electorate like that just to get elected and then pull this kind of crap. He indeed is a Illinois/Chicago Democrat! By the way, did Obama break ranks with his Democrat appointees and actually PAY his taxes?
Posted by: LasVegas | March 10, 2009, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Hey Fox Valley — which Fox Valley are you from? ARe you from the Illinois Fox Valley?
sorry – just had to ask…
Posted by: Lizzie | March 10, 2009, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
This is evidence that the Obama administration can make reasoned decisions which often includes nuances and caveats. In other words, there are exceptions to every rule or policy. It’s life, get over it and your disappointment with the election.
Posted by: Lori | March 10, 2009, 10:29 pm 10:29 pm
Lizzie – I’m in Wisconsin
Posted by: Fox Valley | March 10, 2009, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
I voted for Obama, but the lying has got to STOP!
Posted by: ann | March 10, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Obama shouldn’t have that no lobbyist rule. Then he wouldn’t have to sign a waiver for lobbyists he wants to put in his administration. Why doesn’t Obama understand how stupid and hypocritical this sounds to most Americans? Obama must be a dunce.
Posted by: Sandy | March 10, 2009, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
If the messiah says it ….it CANNOT
be a lie! Let’s not parse Obama’s
rhetoric. You’ll be labeled a heretic.
The IRS awaits the blasphemers.
Posted by: Trajan | March 10, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
I don’t mind if President Obama hires people who were lobbyists. He needs to get people working and if it takes some prior lobbyists then so be it. Obama is doing a great job and I am so pleased with everything he is doing.
Posted by: Vicki | March 10, 2009, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
three weeks ago the Obama administration granted ethics wavers
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Granting “ethics wavers” just sounds so bad.
Perhaps they should change the name of the document…
Posted by: mad | March 10, 2009, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm
The only change Obama has brought is loose change in my pocket instead of dollar bills.
Posted by: Arthur | March 10, 2009, 11:40 pm 11:40 pm
vicki et al
not hiring lobbyists is what the president said he was going to stick to but he cant make good on his own goals there the bar has been set too high and this army of bloggers that is going to bring everyone over to the presidents side is laughable…that has always been a myth!
Posted by: JG | March 10, 2009, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Why are we learning this three weeks later?
Posted by: mad | March 10, 2009, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
yea the Rush limbaugh thing was a distraction and the crowing about the market when gaithner hasnt even checked Citigroups books etc they are all distractions beause they own the economy now and dont know what to do with it!
Posted by: JG | March 11, 2009, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Just wait until he gets around to talking about the necessity of global no boundaries consumerism!
All dissenters will of course be outsiders! And Co-Pres Pelosi will work out the details! :(
Posted by: aware2u | March 11, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am
aware2u
yep, “The New World Order” that Presidents from Roosevelt to George HW Bush, is about to be carried out by Pres Obama…what is it about that? It must be in the secret Presidents book that they are so obsessed with it!
Posted by: JG | March 11, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Postmoderns did away with boundaries and now everyone is essentially homeless!
Unless of course you trust the God who created the whole home reality in the first place!
Oh, I am an Independent with no admiration for the far-left or the far-right.
Posted by: aware2u | March 11, 2009, 12:27 am 12:27 am
aware2u
yep I heard postmoderns want to make it so bad that everyone excepts radical changes…I consider myself a moderate democrat but I voted for mccain despite palin and Obama will have to do some work to get me to vote for his re-election
Posted by: JG | March 11, 2009, 1:12 am 1:12 am
There’s no change as he “preached” during the campaign. Just another double-talking politician, looking out for his own interest and ideological agenda
He’s worst than the peanut farmer. According to the media, he’s suppose to be the brightest guy on the planet. Yet he’s screwing up the economy, everytime he open his mouth, the market drops
And what’s the deal with the TelePrompter, it’s almost like he is a puppet. He may sound great, but without a prewritten script, there’s nothing inside. Who’s pulling the string. Polosi or Axelrod?
Poor decision on the cabinet positions. Full of tax cheat, idiots and duds. His choice for secretary of state is an embarassment to the human kind. I am so “exerienced” after two terms of first lady. What a joke
He
Posted by: Maverick | March 11, 2009, 2:02 am 2:02 am
Posted by: Vicki | Mar 10, 2009 11:20:19 PM
Do you mind anyone lying to you?
Ever?
Posted by: drjohn | March 11, 2009, 7:28 am 7:28 am
If your going to discuss ethics, the MSM needs to be re-baptized again as well before they start pointing fingers.!!
As for the many that post here and stated the economy under Obama is going south, you folks need and to get educated… Bush was President 2920 days and drove this country into the ground. Furthermore, Obama has only been in office 51 days his stimulus bill only signed 22 days ago, and it’s all his fault!! Clearly, you all are REPUBLICANS which mean “PARTY FIRST COUNTRY SECOND”
Last, since you are so eager to say its Obamas faoult for the dow dropping then all credit MUST be his for the 380 point gain yesterday!!!
Posted by: OMG1109 | March 11, 2009, 7:48 am 7:48 am
These appointments and waiving the no-lobbyist rule are a disgrace. Obama is doing fine, but ethics will bring him down. There is nothing so compelling about these two people to change the rles for them. Do without them, amigo.
Posted by: Jackie F. Cheeser | March 11, 2009, 7:58 am 7:58 am
I totally regret my vote for Mr. Obama. I am taking my bumper sticker off today. I can’t believe I got pwned by this false messiah.
Posted by: peaceman | March 11, 2009, 8:00 am 8:00 am
“Last, since you are so eager to say its Obamas faoult(sic) for the dow dropping then all credit MUST be his for the 380 point gain yesterday!!!” OMG1109
I WILL give him credit when he erases the 18% decline in the DOW since his inauguration!
Posted by: Randy the A/C guy | March 11, 2009, 8:28 am 8:28 am
“WHY has this administration not authorized the continuation of the F-22 Raptor program?”
Massively overpriced, outdated defense project. Funny, you are willing throw good money away on that project, but anything else stimulus related does not meet your expectations. That is hypocrisy at its finest.
Posted by: DOD | March 11, 2009, 8:39 am 8:39 am
“WHY has this administration not authorized the continuation of the F-22 Raptor program?”
Massively overpriced, outdated defense project. Funny, you are willing throw good money away on that project, but anything else stimulus related does not meet your expectations. That is hypocrisy at its finest.
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hypocrisy my @ss….
We gave the automakers HOW many billions?
so your willing to throw 95,000 people out of work now! the estimates are 9 or 10 billion to keep the program going for 3 years!
We agave the auto makers much more than that, and they are still going to have to lay off THOUSANDS! THERE IS YOUR EAL WASTE!
Right now we are SUPPOSED to SPENDING to create & SAVE real AMERICAN jobs!
The hypocrisy is yours!
Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am
Fox Valley — Here I was thinking you were my Fox Valley. I know yours, though, too!
Posted by: Lizzie | March 11, 2009, 9:36 am 9:36 am
What big huge hypocrites–business as usual for that group of thugs from Chicago.
And this is how Obama is going to change Washington?
Posted by: tyler | March 11, 2009, 10:13 am 10:13 am
More of the same from Hussein. The Koolaid drinkers are slowly waking up from their coma to realize what a fraud Hussein really is. His hollow speeches and empty promises mean nothing. He defrauded the American public (at least half of them) during the campaign; the MSM perpetuated the myth, Oprah decreed him “the anointed one” and the country is now in the deepest financial, moral and ethical morass ever imagined. We turned our backs on true integrity, true character, true patriot and true statesman for a joker like this. Oh well……there is always 2012.
Posted by: chotolal7 | March 11, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
“Right now we are SUPPOSED to SPENDING to create & SAVE real AMERICAN jobs!”
There are approximately 250 million registered vehicles in the US with roughly 16 million being sold each year and you are comparing the auto industry to an overblown, way over budget aircraft costing taxpayers 150 million dollars a piece that most experts believe is a waste of defense spending because there are better options than the F22. Got it.
You sound like a man that is fighting for YOUR job – not any “stimulus” .
Posted by: DOD | March 11, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
people need to understand the major difference between ‘lobbyists’ who bring in huge paychecks from private for-profit industries and ‘advocates’ who work for non-profit organizations (such as the National Partnership for Women and Families and the National Council of La Raza). Basically, anyone who has worked for a major national organization in DC on issues that matter to regular people is likely to be registered as a “lobbyist.” But nonprofits advocating for policy change that benefits low-income women, families and Latinos (and the rest of us) are vastly different from high-priced lobbying firms that set policies to benefit their industry and corporate clients.
The exceptions for these two distinguished women are completely justified, and if anyone could fill these jobs without having lobbied Congress, they are completely ignorant and have no idea how government works.
Posted by: nonprofit advocate | March 11, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
Why doesn’t Obama simply admit he lied about hiring lobbyists, just like he lied about earmarks.
How many waivers until this becomes a joke, except it is too disturbing to be funny.
This guy lied his way to the Whitehouse, as we are discovering at every turn, and the economy is collapsing because he is in over his head. But he sure does give a good teleprompter speech.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
Hireing Ms. Muñoz of the National Council of La Raza as chief liaison to the Latino community, would be like hireing David Duke as chief liaison to WASP community.
Posted by: Dr Eisnenbart | March 11, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
So what else is new?????
Posted by: Lizzie | March 11, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
“Why doesn’t Obama simply admit he lied about hiring lobbyists, just like he lied about earmarks.”
What do you mean, “lied”?
Doing the exact opposite of what you said you would do is merely being “flexible.” Yeah, that’s it.
Posted by: PD | March 11, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
“The exceptions for these two distinguished women are completely justified, and if anyone could fill these jobs without having lobbied Congress, they are completely ignorant and have no idea how government works.”
If that is the case, then Obama should have known this is how government works and should never have made his “no lobbyists” pledge.
If he knew this and made the pledge anyway … draw your own conclusion.
Posted by: PD | March 11, 2009, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
“Of course, the haters will grab any possible opportunity to tear Obama down. That’s just pathetic.”
Why is it “hate” to expect our elected leaders to be truthful and keep their word?
If Obama had said during the campaign that there might be exceptions to the “no lobbyists” rule, that would be one thing. As far as I am aware, he made no such qualifications, so hiring lobbyists, waiver or no waiver, constitutes breaking his word.
You’re so okay with this that you have no problem saying that anyone who has doubts about it is hateful and pathetic?
Posted by: PD | March 11, 2009, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
Hey whats the difference between a virtual office and real office? Does that mean I own the virtual office too? Is there space allocated?
Posted by: savantadmin | March 11, 2009, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Where can we send for one of these ‘Ethics Waiver Forms?’
I’d like to have a few on hand…so I’ll be prepared the next time I need to do something unethical…..
Up to now…I just presumed I had to remain ethical…
Also I will need a ‘tax waiver’ for this year…
I did’nt vote for this guy…but I’m starting to see how I could increase my chances of staying solvent..with these new tools..
Change I’m starting to believe in….
Posted by: J Moore | March 12, 2009, 6:50 am 6:50 am