Pew: Obama’s Poll Numbers are Slipping
Following up on Friday’s debate over Obama’s poll numbers, top independent pollster Andy Kohut of the Pew Research Center weighs in with this:
President Barack Obama’s approval rating has slipped, as a growing number of Americans see him listening more to his party’s liberals than to its moderates, and many voice opposition to some of his key economic proposals. Obama’s job approval rating has slipped from 64% in February to 59% currently, while disapproval has jumped from 17% to 26% over this period. Disapproval of Obama has increased markedly among Republicans (by 15 points) as well as among independents (13 points).
By 44% to 30%, the public now sees Obama listening more to liberal Democrats rather than to moderate Democrats. This is a reversal from January when 44% said he was listening more to moderates in the Democratic Party, while 34% said he was listening more to the party’s liberals.
The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted March 9-12 among 1,308 adults reached on landlines and cell phones, finds that most people think the new president is doing as much as he can to fix the economy. But the public expresses mixed views of his many major proposals to fix the economy:
There continues to be broad support for increased spending on infrastructure, and most have positive views of key aspects of his budget plan – reducing taxes on middle and lower-income households and raising taxes on the affluent. Yet a majority (52%) says it is wrong to change the Medicare prescription drug plan so that upper-income retirees would pay more. And nearly as many (47%) express a negative view of reducing agricultural subsidies for many farms, as Obama has proposed in his budget plan.
The public remains divided over spending billions to help homeowners who are facing foreclosure on mortgages they cannot afford – 46% say this is the right thing for the government to be doing while an identical percentage says it is wrong. And the prospect of providing loans to struggling automakers GM and Chrysler, which was unpopular in December, has become even more so: Just 30% say it is right for the government to provide loans to the automakers, down from 39% three months ago.
The Republican Party’s doldrums are clearly evident in the new survey. Just 28% approve of the job being done by Republican congressional leaders, the lowest rating for GOP leaders in nearly 14 years of Pew Research surveys. The party is seen as leaderless by the public and members of the party: Barely a quarter (27%) of the public, including just 32% of Republicans, can name someone who they think of as the leader of the Republican Party these days.
Full survey on Pew’s website.
–George Stephanopoulos
UPDATE: Today, ABC’s Polling Director Gary Langer says that Pew’s findings are consistent with other credible polls. Langer says Obama’s public approval decline has occurred among Republicans and independents.
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I have 3 republican friends that voted for Obama now wish they would not have. They all thought he was going to be more in the middle. I live in Illinois and know how he voted.
Posted by: jane | March 16, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
All the idiots who voted for him with their eyes closed will now see. No experience, talker.
Posted by: David | March 16, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
The teleprompter President has NO CLUE. The Obama Administration owns more than 60% of AIG and NEVER read the books before the purchase. Let’s see “emergency” must pass the Stimulus, no one need read it. Remember Obama said no earmarks, but the Stimulus has over 9,000 some earmarks…now Obama says things are not so bad as they were a week ago after the Stimulus is passed without examination. This Administration shoots at the hip with no checking what so ever—-is this how they are going to act during a crisis??????
Posted by: Mike | March 16, 2009, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
I don’t think the White House is losing any sleep over their poll numbers. There are four long years to go till 2012, and the GOP is a sinking ship that is rudderless.
Posted by: Leprkin | March 16, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
the rep will cry for the next 8 years . deal with it folks , he is the president of this country. bush messed the country up and u want obama to fix in 100 days? keep dreaming . please leave the country if u dont like what he is doing
Posted by: Smith | March 16, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Well According to CNN His Poll Numbers are at about 62% Better then pathetic Republicans their Approval Ratings are slipping everyday!
Posted by: ANGIE IN PA | March 16, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
The White House knows the kind of harsh blowback they’ll get over AIG and the rest of the bailouts. It’s the one issue that voters are opposed to Obama’s handling.
And, ironically, it’s the issue that the GOP has ignored – for now…
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | March 16, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Who cares what his poll numbers are at this point? It might be meaningful if the Conservative/Republican numbers were going up, although that’s not the case. He will be President for the next 4 years at least, so just learn to deal with it.
Posted by: Mack | March 16, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Keep wishing and hoping you Obama detractors. We know you will be so glad if he fails. But the man is on the right course and he is going to pull us through this mess, and then you will all have to pick up your marbles and go home. He was always losing in the polls during the presidential campaign too and we all know how that turned out!!
Posted by: geecee | March 16, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
the rep will cry for the next 8 years . deal with it folks , he is the president of this country. bush messed the country up and u want obama to fix in 100 days? keep dreaming . please leave the country if u dont like what he is doing
Posted by: Smith | Mar 16, 2009 1:12:54 PM
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Well Mr Smith is yet another one of those tolerate progressives. You know the ones. They constantly tell everyone we must be respectful of the views of others. Unless of course you disagree with them. Then they tell you to get out of the country if you don’t like it.
Posted by: jim | March 16, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Socker. His record and positions were clearly known before the election, and now everyone is shocked that he’s a liberal. I don’t feel bad for anyone that didn’t take 5 minutes to google his background and thought that his commercials were the whole truth! Wow, the same people that voted for Blago – twice. Americans are stupid. I think you American’s should be banned from voting.
Posted by: Chris | March 16, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
he is a fraud and people are waking up. he would have won the election no matter who he ran against as they country was sick of chenny and bush. now we are growing sicker faster over this arrogant elitist shyster.
Posted by: catman | March 16, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
They should be at 0 and stay there. He simply does not have the experioence to be president now everyone is seeing it and we can’t do anything about it for 4 years. Bush and Cheney are gone, and that is a good thing, but what we got is even worse. When he can’t complain about Bush he has nothing to complain about and nothig to say. He is horrible.
Posted by: Jane | March 16, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Hey, catman – Cheney and Bush weren’t running against him – McCain/Palin were. So why did Obama win? Maybe because he was the best man for the job, and much to your chagrin he is going to prove to be an excellent choice made by 65,000,000 American voters. He’s only been in office less than 2 months. Keep your pants on!
Posted by: geecee | March 16, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
THE PEW POLL we need to see:
“Which of the following Republican-Herbert Hoover economic proposals of the Republican do you approve of?
1.Let the financial sector collapse as it did in the Great Depression.
2.Trade our jobs to India and China where there is no burdensome regulation like the clean air act, as per the prescription of Milton Freedman.
3.NO work on infrastructure. You probably won’t be on it the next time a bridge collapses into the Mississippi.
4.NO money for states, resulting in the layoffs of millions of teachers, firemen, and police.
5.END all regulation of Wall Street. They have proven that they know how to get the job done, selling credit default swaps!
6.Hedge fund managers and everyone else with an income of $250,000 should pay a smaller percentage of taxes than the middle class.
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
We had been warned that he’s a lot of talk and little action.
Posted by: young_voter | March 16, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
There are four long years to go till 2012, and the GOP is a sinking ship that is rudderless.
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Leprkin,
Wrong, The Country is Rudderless!
Posted by: Mike_C | March 16, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
and the repukes continue to go whaa whaa
Posted by: jim | March 16, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm
This is not a Democrat/Republican thing. Both sides of the aisle have much to answer for over the past several years. All the people in DC are completely out of touch with the American public and will do anything to secure their power and the money tree they have cultivated with our tax dollars. A good deal of the economic mess we are in is due to the mismanagement of Congress who have meddled in the mortgage business. Seems that more shenanigans are sure to follow with the new administration’s plans to stick its fingers into every facet of our lives and steal the money out of our pockets to pay for it, whether you make
$2 million, $200,000 or $20,000 (which is what I make, by the way). There is definitely a “let them eat cake” attitude that the pols continue to cultivate is only going to damage their reputations and credibility. They must realize they work for the American people, not for themselves or the
“Party”.
Posted by: Lynn Clinton Yancosky | March 16, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Well According to CNN His Poll Numbers are at about 62% Better then pathetic Republicans their Approval Ratings are slipping everyday!
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ANGIE IN PA ,
According to Rasmussen…..
Date 3/15
Presidential Approval Index — +4
Strongly Approve ————- 36%
Strongly Disapprove ———- 32%
Total Approve —————- 56%
Total Disapprove ————- 43%
Congressional Leaders
Nancy Pelosi
Favorable — 36%
Unfavorable — 53%
Harry Reid
Favorable —- 29%
Unfavorable — 42%
Mitch McConnell
Favorable —- 29%
Unfavorable — 31%
John Boehner
Favorable —- 26%
Unfavorable — 31%
Obama’s numbers are falling, and neither side of the aisle is really gaining the people’s confidence. However, Pelosi & Reids Negatives are much higher than Republican Negatives.
Posted by: Mike_C | March 16, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
and the repukes continue to go whaa whaa
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The last time I looked Jim, the Whaas were coming from the unemployment line. Strange how party denominations disappear in that line!
you can keep spewing talking points til the cows come home son, the simple fact is this is Obama’s responsibility now. Where is our plan for the banking system? to bring back a blast from the past and adapt it to today…. Mr. Geithner -> “The Whole World is Waiting, The Whole World is Waiting, The Whole World is Waiting”
Posted by: Mike_C | March 16, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
As long as the Republicans remain in the wilderness, the Democrats will be able to dictate policy at will. Wether it is poor or not.
The GOP is just as much to lame for abandoning it’s principles for votes, that there are no votes any more.
And a Democrat lite like McCain, Giuliani, Romney, and their ilk, will not cure what ails them…
Posted by: hmn... | March 16, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Lynn Clinton Yancosky,
I am SO SORRY that you are so uninformed regarding the causes of the Great Republican Recession.
Next time you have a chance to chat with Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity, ask them:
“How exactly did the Congress force the private sector to invent unregulated Credit Default Swaps (think AIG)?”
“How exactly did the Congress force the private sector to invent now toxic Mortgage Backed Securities (think Country-Wide Finance Corp)? ”
“How exactly did the Congress force the private sector rating agencies to rate toxic assets as AAA — highest rating?”
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Mike_C,
It is always foolish to make an argument based on public polls.
But it is dishonest to CHOOSE an outlier pollster like Rasmussen. Rasmussen’s polls had Obama 20 points where he actually was the whole campaign !
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm
Mike_C
The economy was in the tank when he took over from Bush and his fellow felons. Obama has only been president for 50+ days. Regardless of Rush and Hannity Insanity say he is not the Messiah and it will take a little time.
Posted by: jim | March 16, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
The politics of hope and change are now the politics of hopelessness and loose change in your pocket. That’s all you’re going to have after Obama is done.
Posted by: Carrie | March 16, 2009, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm
“All the idiots who voted for him with their eyes closed will now see. No experience, talker.”
..
I know, I’m an idiot. Only 59% approve of him.
Posted by: reason | March 16, 2009, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
OBAMA’S PRAYER
Our Obama, who art in Washington
Flip-flop be thy name.
They Presidency come, they will be done
In D.C. as it was in Chicago.
Please take away our daily bread
And raise our taxes
As we appease voters who want social services.
And lead us away from self defense
And deliver us from sovereignty.
For thine is the way of globalism
And the power of Socialism
Forever and ever,
Yes we can.
Posted by: Mary Ann S. | March 16, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
Let’s see 50+ days in office and you say that he has not had enough time to have made and difference. But if you think he is doing a great job well then 50+ days must be plenty.
Posted by: OBAMANATION | March 16, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Lord,
Forgive Mary Ann S.
She has lost her moral bearings and it makes her feel powerful to offer child like insults.
YOU say “Heal the sick.”
Republicans say “Socialist”
YOU say “Feed the Poor.”
Republicans say “Trade our jobs to India and China and make us poor.”
YOU say “Let he who has committed no sin …”
Republicans say “Obama caused the financial meltdown in September of 2008!”
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm
Vote out the bad guys next time
Posted by: jane | March 16, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Excuse me DAVID…but there is no reason to call anyone an idiot for voting for someone they truly believed could make a difference. Those who utilize the right to vote should not be insulted. We are not mind reader’s. Nor do we have ESP. We vote the best we can with the information we have and that’s that. Personal insults are not the way to be truly heard.
Posted by: BonnieAM | March 16, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Tom & John,
Your missing the point completely! Mypoint is that anyone can find a poll to support their position of the moment!
Obama supporters are posting Gallup, Rasmussen, CNN, USA TOday, etc…which ever one shows the President in the best light.
The same goes for those of us who have not drunk the kool-aid. We are looking for those polls that show his numbers falling.
The numbers are fleeting at best, what I want to see is for this President to stop playing games and get to work filling the positons HE MUST nominate for Treasury! Geithner is clueless, and doesn’t even a have a functional staff at Treasury to try to come with a viable plan.
Posted by: Mike_C | March 16, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Liberals are now in charge of the government, deal with it. The public hates the republican party and their broken policies that caused the current economic disaster.
Posted by: Mac G | March 16, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
The media helped make him, the media will surely destroy him.
Posted by: Jerry | March 16, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Republicans say “Obama caused the financial meltdown in September of 2008!”
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John – Latest Graduate of The Keith Olbermann School Of Liberal Talking Points!
I have not heard a single person claim Obama caused it. Now If you want to trade Obama for Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, Larry Summers, Bill clinton & Jimmy Carter from your side of the asile, then you would be dead on!
The blame is on both sides of aisle. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot!
I wonder if Barney Frank would be shooting his mouth off so much about AIG if congress decided to really investigate his involvement with Freddie/Fannie.
Anyway, moving forward to fixing this, there should be only one priority in the administration right now in regards to domestic agenda. Get the banking plan out! Obama should not step in front of another microphone until he has the names of ALL those appointees that he has to name! FILL THE TREASURY postions & Get Geithner to get his plan out!
Posted by: Mike_C | March 16, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Listen, no matter if polls fluctuate, bottom line: he hit the ground running with problems created by prior administration. He cannot fix this that fast and if the media would be realistic and objective in reporting and stop the poll garbage, we would all be better off. And, while you are at it, why not publish some success stories? people who found jobs; businesses starting to turn around. These stories are never “above the fold”.
Posted by: NKBE | March 16, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
“he hit the ground running with problems created by prior administration. ”
For crying out loud, EVERY administration claims that. Remeber Clinton and “the worst economy in 50yrs!”
These problems are huge YES, BUT they ARE NOT problems CREATED by the previous administration. If you want to continue to live in absoultes like that, then Obama is responsible for EVERYTING from 12 Noon at January 20th 2009.
Hence HE is responsible for the markets having lost almost 20% of their value!
Somehow, I am sure that Obama supporters do not want to look at it in those terms.
Posted by: Mike_C | March 16, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Mike_C:
Putting aside your pointless jab, I have heard plenty of Republicans claim tthat the world is going to hell because Obama doesn’t want to follow the George Bush playbook on a number of topics, including the economy.
The current crisis is the culmination of several events, but MOST IMPORTANTLY the following:
1. Unregulated credit default swaps. AIG bet hundreds of billions of dollars, insuring other parties against financial loss, without setting any reserves to cover the losses. This had the effect of generating huge income for AIG (while the good times lasted), while putting virtually the entire world economy at risk on the downside.
2. Mortgage backed securities. Smart operators mixed together hundreds mortgages, sliced them into thousands of pieces, and sold them as AAA rated securities. Two results: 1. Those who offered risky loans could dump the risk on those down the line. 2. These now toxic assets are devilishly difficult to unwind.
3. Private security rating agencies who were all too eager to put the AAA rating on trash securities, since the companies selling the trash were the ones who pay the ratings agencies.
4. Private banks,’investment banks’, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, who bought the AAA rated securities with a too-good-to-true ratings. PS. Fannie and Freddie were amoung the last to buy in. Their role is not that of Bernie Maddoff but that of one of Mr. Maddoff’s clients.
NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, it should be obvious that regulation is necesary to protect the economy and the Republicans are full of…
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
I did not vote for either candidate this year. I had become tired of choosing between such peoople as these.
However, I like the “idea” of Obama. Unfortunatey, this is a time when we need a great leader. The problems we have are nearly unsolvable. This was not a time to make a great experiment in healing. The new Prresident is simply in over his head. I hope he learns how to swim pretty quickly but I not convinced he can do so.
Still, he is my President and I wish him success. This ship is sinking.
Posted by: Bill | March 16, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
Well Said John!
Posted by: Republicans are Clueless | March 16, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
28% approve of the job being done by Republican congressional leaders, the lowest rating for GOP leaders in nearly 14 years of Pew Research surveys.
Could this be because of a Feb poll by the New York Times which showed that 70 percent of Americans wanted the Republicans to work with Obama and they didn’t?
Obama lost 5 percentage points is not a free fall but the Republicans at 28 percent means trouble for them in 2010.
This part of the Pew Poll caught my interest -
A majority (52%) says it is wrong to change the Medicare prescription drug plan so that upper-income retirees would pay more.
This could mean trouble for Obama and he can avoid that right now by saying he won’t make anyone pay more.
Now I’m no expert but if these drugs are cheaper like say the Canadian prices then everyone wins except the Drug Companies. Could the Drug Companies sacrifice and help with this problem? Or is the pull for quarterly profits too powerful?
Bush never asked Special Interests to sacrifice, never even asked Americans to sacrifice for both wars. The auto industry could have been retooled for both wars under Bush saving auto companies needed jobs. Already some of the newer Humvees run on Water and Gasoline. If the auto companies retool this way making these new energy efficient Humvees this could also help the auto companies retool for new energy efficient consumer cars? GM is marketing an electrical car. Isn’t Israel going completely with electrical cars?
The oil companies are so powerful but can’t they sacrifice as well? We are in two wars and they can help us all by sacrificing until the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are over. During War World 2 the American people and industries sacrificed. Why are these wars different? Because Bush/Cheney said so?
Posted by: Judson | March 16, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Obama is fake , just a ordinary Chicago crook ; he has no experience and don’t what to do.
And he doesn’t keep his election promises.
Obama is lucky that he has the support of the MSM.
Posted by: fzor | March 16, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
John: the man in the White House right now received more money than anyone but Chris Dodd for blocking oversight on Fannie/Freddie…you know the companies that are now 80% government controlled. Bush addressed the credit problem in 2005 and Dodd said we will filibuster it don’t even think about oversight! Both sides are to blame but the idea that these problems just came with the White House is a joke…Obama has blood all over his hands
Posted by: Mike | March 16, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
I think President Obama is doing a fantastic job. He is doing everything he said he would do. Like Bernake I think we will start to recover this year and I stand firmly behind my President. All of you haters I don’t know what you want? Stop listening to Rush Limbaugh and start working to making your country get on the right track.
Posted by: Amy | March 16, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Obama, the teleprompter king!
Posted by: Joe | March 16, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
“Stubborn.”
“Out of touch.”
“Incapable of understanding” the economic crisis.
That’s how Barack Obama and his presidential campaign team described John McCain last year when the Republican candidate famously said “the fundamentals of our economy are strong.”
But now President Obama and his advisers are adopting similar rhetoric as they try to build public confidence in an economic turnaround.
Obama is clueless.
Posted by: charlie | March 16, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Mike,
Since Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with the creation of the credit default swaps or toxic mortgage backed securities BOTH OF WHICH HAVE DEMONSTRATED KEY ROLES in destroying not only the U.S. economy but that of the whole world…
Your objection is without foundation and lacks any merit.
Please feel free to educate yourself before coughing up Sean Hannity’s excuses for the why the Republicans had nothing to do with the Great Recession.
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm
Mike,
By the way, it was Barack Obama who is responsible for the earmark reforms that require pols to attach their actual name to earmarks instead of allowing them to be passed annomously.
That also has nothing to do with causes of Great Recession, just as you trying to wave the Fannie Mae brush has nothing to do with explaining the causes of this Republican debacle.
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
You have got to be joking! President Obama inherited a deteriorating economy, a failed war, loss of respect for our country worldwide, and little or no regulation for our major industries and banks. Former President Bush sat on the sidelines and let the whole country slide out from under him, and the country now blames his successor for not turning everything around since January 20, 2009? My President has my support for the monumental job he inherited, and my prayers that he can do his job without the slashes and snipes of an ungrateful populace.
Posted by: Joan | March 16, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
AMY–”I think President Obama is doing a fantastic job. He is doing everything he said he would do.”– Hummm.. really??
What about NO EARMARKS.. His bills are the most earmarked bills in history..
What about NO BILL WILL BE VOTED ON UNTIL IT HAS BEEN ON THE WEB FOR 5 DAYS..All Three of his bills, The “Stimulus” The Budget , and the Omnibus bill went to vote without ever being posted.
What about THERE WILL BE TRANSPARENCY IN MY ADMINISTRATION.. How can there be transparency if even the opposition party is not allowed to have a say in the bills being passed?
I WILL NOT NOMINATE LOBBYISTS TO MY CABINET.. There have been 3 so far.
THE ERA OF CORRUPTION IS OVER .. yet 5 of my nominations have tax problems in their background..including the one who is now incharge of the IRS..
Exactly everything he said he would do??
ARE YOU KIDDING???
Posted by: arkie vet | March 16, 2009, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm
A couple more points people should read if they want to understand the causes of the Republican Recession.
1. NOBODY offered RISKY MORTGAGES out of the goodness of their hearts. People offered risky mortgages because the market came up a mechanism, mortgage backed securities, for collecting their profit and passing the risky loans to someone else.
2. As long as their was someone (private rating agencies) willing to rate their risky securities as AAA AND someone else willing to suspend disbelief and buy these too-good-to-be-true securities… THERE WAS NO REASON for lenders to minimize risk.
3. Although people sometimes call this the ‘sub-prime’ credit crisis, that is a misleading label. Most of the risky loans were Alt-A and no-doc loans available to people WITH assets and good credit scores.
Someone can have assets without the income to pay for a small mansion and that is what people did.
Those who insist on staying blind to the fact that this was a market gone wild, a brush fire where the firemen, Republican named regulators, who thought it was their job to nap, only insist on being ignorant.
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
JOAN–”You have got to be joking! President Obama inherited a deteriorating economy, a failed war, loss of respect for our country worldwide, and little or no regulation for our major industries and banks. Former President Bush sat on the sidelines and let the whole country slide out from under him”– he inherited a deteriorating economy because the DEMOCRATS who were supposed to be in charge of oversight failed to do their job. A failed war? 6 years with only 4000 military members killed in action a strengthening democracy in a once choked dictatorship, no new terrorist attacks on our soil since 9/11 .. what exactly would it take for you to declare the war successful?? the deregulation of the banks came under CLINTONS watch as did most of Al Quaida’s attacks.. (there were 7 in all)
If our country lost respect, it was because idiots like Reid were running around screaming about the “war being lost” while we were still fighting.. nothing turns away allies like division from within..STOP BLAMING BUSH… and trying seeing what is really going on… We now have a president who is running roughshod over our economy with principles that have ALWAYS failed… I suppose when he falls on his face that will be bush’s fault too???
Posted by: arkie vet | March 16, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Yeah, like if GS is a person to listen. GS is scared to ask the hard questions to the GOP. The media all they do is repeat the GOP talking points. And never correct themselves even if The media and GS find out they wrong. Every day the media and GS dismised and diminised the president instead presenting the the fair and balanced news they go with it is the talking point of the they. Specially GS who is doing and interview wint JM like if JM knows a lot about the economy. The media and GS go about with the GOP. GS is out of thouch.
Posted by: lilia | March 16, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
arkie vet,
Einstein said there were only two things that he was sure were infinite, the universe and the human ability for ignorance. Except that he wasn’t completely sure about the universe.
Your comment about earmarks seems to indicate your ignorance on basic economics. I think you should enroll in a class in your local community college, but I will try to fill in your knowlege here.
1. Obama is responsible for the earmark reform passed last year requiring every earmark to be tied to the name of its sponser. Previously, earmarks were annonomous.
2. The 2009 budget just signed into law DECREASED both the number and the dollars in earmarks compared to last year’s budget.
3. Earmarks did not and do not cause recessions.
4. The only cure to a recession is for businesses to see more customers. They will not increase the number of employees because of tax breaks. Until they see more customers, businesses will act defensively and put it in the bank.
5. The purpose of the stimulous bill was to put construction workers and teachers and police officers and lots of other people to work. Economists say that people who just got a job (even if it is from the government) spend money. And that means that businesses see customers.
The difference between a business that gets cash from customers and one that gets a check from the government is that in the first case, the business has to have workers to receive this inflow. A business doesn’t need workers to put a check from the government in the bank.
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
JOHN– Sorry dude, but your whole post is a load of cr#p.. Usually i at least acknowledge points people make that are correct even if there are flaws with it in total, but yours is COMPLELTELY wrong..
First,this is NOT A REPUBLCIAN RECESSION.. saying so doesn’t make it so.. this recession is the sole result of DEMOCRATS not minding the stroe when it came to the mortgage industry.
1.)Actually risky mortgages WERE OFFERED and Fannie and Freddie pushed banks and lenders to continue to relax their criteria for making loans.. 3.0 2.)and it wasn’t private rating agencies behind the bundling of loans – it was Freddie and Fannie.. Leading democrats like Barney Frank were SUPPOSED to monitor the activities, but did nothing except recieve 100s of thousands in lobby funds while looking the other way..
3.)No, the majority of the loans WERE no paper loans given to people who had no business entering into that agreement. OVer 10,000 of the defaulted loans in the mid west were given to illegal aliens, people with NO INCOME were granted 6 figure homes as long as they agreed to a higher rate..
4.)What republcian named regulators? the Senate committee on commerce oversight (who was responsible for keeping this in check) was made up ENTIRELY of DEMOCRATS…When 8 republicans came to the committe in late 2004 to blow the whistle, they were told to sit down and shut up basically… Please, say what you want about whether or not Obama’s plans will right the economy.. But please DON’T try to convince anyone this was a REPUBLICAN financial crisis.. it WAS NOT.. the DEMS OWN THIS LOCK, STOCK, AND BARREL
Posted by: arkie vet | March 16, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
arkie vet,
Some Democrats may be complicit in the deregulation of the economy. And it is certainly true that this deregulation has burned down the house.
But it is the Republicans who tell us every day and on every opportunity, that there should be no regulation in the marketplace.
Like the Iraq war, the Democrats failed to resist the policies of the Republicans.
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
John,– You make a good argument for Kenseyian economics, but the logic is flawed.. It doesn’t work..
1.) Obama earmark legislation has been ignored due to the flexibility of its make-up.. The earmarks identification is simply tied to the websites of teh congressional member.. in order to actaully see all the pork, you have to look at all 535 sites individually.. not really transparency if you ask me..
2.)Last years budget did NOT decrease the number or size of the tearmakrs as you say.. in fact, it is the largest budget in US History and once the “stimulus” along with the omnibus bill are included, It becomes over 2 times largers than anything ever submitted by BUSH and 4 times larger than anything submitted by Clinton, the total count of earmarks for the three bills numbers over 10,000 (no thats not a mistype.)
3.)I never said that earmarks did cause a recession, but they also do nothing to alleviate one either.. what they DO accomplich however is increase the bottom line on spending without adding to the actaul stimultaing affect of other aspects of the bill which serves to increase inflation.
4.)Actually, if you look historically at various attempts to “right” a wayward economy, tax breaks have ALWAYS results in increased employment, while infrastructure spending NEVER has.. I’ll let history speak for itself on that one, but if you want to check it your self, compare employment rates following tax cuts (1981, 1983, 1991, 1993, 2003, 2004..are good examples) with unemployment rates following massive infrastructure spending ( the great depression is the best example of this) and you will see my point.
5.)the problem with this goes back to my other point, and its the deathnel of Kenseyian economics.. Jobs created through government spending also create inflation while jobs created through private sector growth (tax cuts) do not.. with government jobs, the action that initally creates the jobs also ultimately stiffles them and the grwwoth is short term while the resulting inflation usually is not…
On your final statement, all i can say is that you have it wrong.. but the only way you will see this is over time…Want to make a bet on what the unemployment and inflation rate is 1 year from now? two years?? that will be the real story…
Posted by: arkie vet | March 16, 2009, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
Dear Baghdad Bob, aka Arkie Vet,
Thank you for your point of view.
I see now that the REGULATORS, you know the people like the head of the SEC who are nominated by the President, were not supposed to write regulations for the public benefit.
I see now that the GREED of Countrywide and Bears Sterns and the other PRIVATE companies who invented mortgage backed securities were following the will of their masters, the Congress, rather than that of their boss.
I see now that AIG, in selling hundreds of billions in credit default swaps, were just dupes. Obviously it was Barack Obama’s psychic powers, not GREED that motivated AIG to sell hundreds of billions of dollars in unregulated financial insurance (for that is what a credit default swap is) without setting aside any capital reserves.
I see now that those who INVENTED and SOLD these financial instruments are not responsible for their own greed inspired actions. No, of course not.
I see now that you are immune to both facts and reason, as you will insist that Fannie May was resposible for OTHER COMPANIES going into the sub-prime market using standards that made Fannie May’s standards look like gold.
Republicans are not resposible for the era of deregulation.
It is actually the small government Democrats who wanted a lawless wild west all along!
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Well finally the hang over is starting to kick in after all the junk you drank to believe this President as he spends us into debt out great great grandchildren will curse us for. .
Posted by: ChicagBob | March 16, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
The only thing democrats know how to do is confiscate money,
spend money it faster than they take it in and BLAME everyone for the problems at hand. I guess democrats have not had control of the congress for the last couple of years. Democrats remind me of Sargent Schultz “They know nothing.. ” I must have been those other guys. Yeah right.
Posted by: ChicagBob | March 16, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
John–”But it is the Republicans who tell us every day and on every opportunity, that there should be no regulation in the marketplace.”
Actually not – they DON”T say that.. the republican mantra is that regulation should be minimal.. that it should impose the least government affect of private industry as is necessary.. not that it should be non existent.
“Like the Iraq war, the Democrats failed to resist the policies of the Republicans.”–
I did a editorial for my local newspaper about Iraq when the whole “Bush Lied – People Died” chant was in full swing.. I can give you the names of 47 prominent democrats including people like HRC, John Kerry, and Al Gore who all PUBLICALLY called for military action in Iraq as much as 3 years before Bush took office.. In fact, John Kerry wrote an official letter to Pres Clinton in 1998 calling on him to take Military action against Iraq. How exactly did they fail to resist Bush’s policies if their opinions mirrored his actions 2 years before he became president??
Posted by: arkie vet | March 16, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Democrats are the like congressmen that was caught with MONEY in the freezer. It just wasnt his fault. Like Blago from IL.
trying to get kick backs from a Kids cancer hospital. Democrats should be remembered for these things but the NEWS media only seem to remember bad republicans. HOW BOUT we blame them ALL and get on with finding replacements. I would rather janitors run Congress than this bunch.
Posted by: ChicagBob | March 16, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
arkie vet >>> What short memories koolaid drinkers have. Its the grape flaovring I think. LOL..
Posted by: ChicagBob | March 16, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
John — for your 5:46 post..
All I can say is this, the original deregulation of the mortgage industry occurred in 1998 (signed by Clinton) and originally came from a 92 – 8 vote in the senate. Interestingly enough, one of the nay votes was McCain, who said the deregulation would make it too easy for abuse that could harm the economy ( guess he was pretty smart before he became senile huh..) Mos to the class B and C mortgages WERE underwritte3n by Freddie and Fannie evne though the original intent of the deregulation was to allow smaler banks and loan companies more competitive in the market which was “supposed” to create more opportunities across the country for mortgages to be granted.
As more, B and C class loans were approved, Fannie and Freddie pushed private lendors to relax their rules even more, these mortgages were underwritten by Fannie and Freddie and then “bundled” with less risky loans and sold to various institutions as B class packages with A class underwites included.. As the industry, fed on these “bundles” Fannie and Freddie cashed in.. franklin raines as CEO fo Fannie May made 90 million in just over 6 years.. leading democrats on the commerse committee pocketed 100s of thousands in lobby money from Fannie and Freddie.. (Barney Frank made 400,000 over 5 years) – while chairing the committee…
How can you objectively determine if an industry is out of controlwhen you are taking lobby money from the very same industry?
Meanwhile, as Freddie and fannies solvency came to question, most of the other companies began realizing that the bundles they had been sold as class B were actually a few class A mortgages bundled with a lot of Class C mortgages and those bundles would in most cases NOT HOLD UP under an economic downturn… but Freddie and fannie knew this, because they were the underwriters.. While everyone else paid the price, the real palyers in this “Deal” went to the bank to deposit their money before they jumped off the train…..
Posted by: arkie vet | March 16, 2009, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
gotta run folks.. John, hope to chat with you again soon… I appreciate real discourse which is what you seem to bring.. I abhor the juvenile name calling that too many on here post.. Do me a favor though.. Look up the unemployment rates from a reputable site (governement sites like the census department are best) and compare those rates to historical tax cuts and see for your self.. and if you actually take a look at employment rates during the depression, you may just change your mind about the effectiveness of “infrastructure spending”.. have a great day…
Posted by: arkie vet | March 16, 2009, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
Hey, catman – Cheney and Bush weren’t running against him – McCain/Palin were. So why did Obama win? Maybe because he was the best man for the job, and much to your chagrin he is going to prove to be an excellent choice made by 65,000,000 American voters. He’s only been in office less than 2 months. Keep your pants on!
Posted by: geecee | Mar 16, 2009 1:43:29 PM
best man for the presses job who portrayed him as a god if i didnt know the truth about him i might have voted for him
Posted by: david reyes | March 16, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Regarding Kenseyian economics, I tell you what:
Why don’t we rewind the clock to before Bush asked for the TARP bailout of the banks and Obama asked for the stimulus bill?
Herbert Hoover responded to the financial crisis that became known as the Great Depression by saying the most important thing to do was TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. (FDR too, for the first year he was office tried the same thing.)
If it was good enough for Hoover, it should be good enough for us, right?
Second, profitable companies are laying off people NOW. The managers are not mean people and they are not trying to sabatage the economy, but they are putting the money in the bank.
If you can send them a million dollars tax cut or put a million dollars in the pockets of previously unemployed people with a family to support. Who is going to spend the money in the economy?
Anyone who even heard of Adam Smith should know: People do what they perceive to be in their self interest. Do not try to explain human behavior by assuming the opposite.
You may note that my explanations DO assume that people did what they perceived as being in THEIR OWN INTEREST.
ALARMISTS will tell you that increasing the money supply will doom us to inflation. Maybe they didn’t notice but we are on the edge of another great depression.
And a depression is accompanied by FALLING PRICES. Businesses in danger of becoming insolvent lower their price in a vain attempt to attract enough customers to keep afloat. Even if they have to fire every employee.
And firing people means there are fewer customers in the market.
And fewer customers in the market mean more companies at the edge of insolvancy.
You can’t have inflation without higher prices. Duh! And that is not going to happen until there is more demand. Duh!
We should be so lucky.
REGARDING YOUR OTHER POINTS: At least Norm Coleman’s lawyer was able to prove 6 points. You didn’t even make one!
YOU FAILED to show that earmarks have anything to do with the Republican Recession.
YOU LAUGHINGLY suggested that people can’t access the info on who did what earmark. Ever hear of internet spiders? If not, believe me with a couple classes you could write a program in Python to mine the information from 535 websites and make a nice need little report.
Your next point was not quite coherent but I will do my best.
“Last years budget did NOT decrease the number or size of the tearmakrs as you say.. in fact, it is the largest budget in US History”
The size of budget and the number of earmarks are not the same concept. The size of the budget and the total cost of earmarks are not the same concept.
The stimulus bill had no earmarks. If you want to contest this, quote WHICH PROJECT, WHICH STATE, WHICH POL.
“It becomes over 2 times largers than anything ever submitted by BUSH and 4 times larger than anything submitted by Clinton”
Not English.
“I never said that earmarks did cause a recession, but they also do nothing to alleviate one either”
Money goes in the pocket of previously unemployed people. People go shopping. Businesses hire people. Much better than the opposite.
“Actually, if you look historically at various attempts to “right” a wayward economy, tax breaks have ALWAYS results in increased employment”
Remember: Reagan raised taxes!
“I’ll let history speak for itself on that one, but if you want to check it your self, compare employment rates following tax cuts (1981, 1983, 1991, 1993, 2003, 2004..are good examples)”
History is great. Economic growth under Democrats > economic growth under Republicans. Economic depression I: Herbert Hoover. Economic depression II: George Bush.
“Jobs created through government spending also create inflation while jobs created through private sector growth (tax cuts) do not..”
Yes, I understand that is the Republican religion. Herbert Hoover is your God.
Posted by: John | March 16, 2009, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
These posts are the picture of hate,disagreement….and shows the fact to never underestimate how low the public’s intelligence is. And not knowing of the past…eagerly accepting promises….which turn up empty for those who vote for them. And a bounty for themselves and the very rich which they want to tax. Anyone not able to read…to watch..and do your own investigations…should spend 50 years in investigative reporting. What they tell you is what they want you to believe. Our duty is to find that which they do not want you to know.
for one who lived throught the great depression..and all the wars and conflicts..the judges who legislate…the dirty money that is divided…the takers who are never givers… the ones who take your tax money to give to their supporters…even if it means same sex, abortions….those who have billions in save places…. and you expect change…only change from one to others… destroy morality. Make that which is illegal or against the teaching of our Bibles…legal…socially accepted.
God is a patient God. Ever hear of His wrath. We see it and we do not know. Our only relief is that each person stand in one spot and see how much evil around them….is them.
The blind are always with us. Look for the Light…
Posted by: Doug | March 16, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
The Pew poll stinks i.e. the name. Obama’s polls are not slipping and if they are it is slightly. I am a republican who voted for him and I am still pleased. I am happy that we now have someone who will bring back the respect we once had as a nation. This economy will straighten out but not in two months. What happed to supporting our president for at least a year. All the naysayers are the ones who cannot admit THEY MADE A MISTAKE. I say go after AIG Obama…we are all behind you.
Posted by: talmag | March 16, 2009, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
President Obama should not care about the polls right now. He is trying to pull the Country out of the &#$% that the Republicans got us stuck in. If he trys to govern by monitoring polls that ill-informed people respond to – then we’re all screwed! Who cares if his ideas come from moderates or liberals…as long as the ideas WORK for our Country and get us back on track!
Posted by: gae | March 16, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
Gallup Poll (03/16/09: Obama approval rating 61%. Quite better than bush and clinton during this period in their respective administrations.
And mind you, non had to grapple with the kind of mess Obama is dealing with today.
MARK MY WORD: OBAMA WILL TURN OUT TO BE ONE OF THE GREATEST POTUS THIS COUNTRY EVER HAD!!!
Continue ignoring him at your peril. Peolple don’t seem to learn.
Posted by: Dew5050 | March 16, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
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PRINCETON, NJ — President Barack Obama’s job approval rating, at 61% in the latest three-day average of Gallup Poll Daily tracking, is slightly above where George W. Bush’s and in particular Bill Clinton’s were at this point in mid-March of the first years of their administrations.
Gallup’s mid-March job approval rating for Bush, measured March 9-11, 2001, was 58%, with 29% disapproval. Gallup’s March 12-14, 1993, approval rating for Clinton was 53%, with 34% disapproval. Both of these approval ratings are lower than Obama’s current 61%. Bush’s disapproval rating in mid-March 2001 was about the same as Obama’s is now (28%), while Clinton’s disapproval rating was significantly higher.
These comparisons suggest that President Obama is holding his own compared to the two presidents who came before him, despite some decline in his approval rating since his
Posted by: chyke | March 16, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
How can anyone take Obama seriously? When he “played” basketball his nickname was Barbie … all show and no go. The first time he would take a hard foul, he was out of the game with all kind of excuses. Unfortunately for him (and us) politics is full of hard fouls and there is no referee or coach to hold his hand.
Posted by: usr102 | March 16, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
At least Obama has created jobs…look at all the paid bloggers…your tax dollars at work.
Posted by: Really, Really | March 16, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Why hasn’t ABC covered the Tea Parties going on all over the country? They pulled in a big crowd in Cincinnatti – the mainstream media covered Iraq war protests even when only a handful of people showed up.
Does this not fit their agenda?
Posted by: MissButterfly | March 16, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Obama voters are douchebags.
Posted by: Obatron | March 16, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
Yo, John…on earmarks in the stimulus…it might depend on what your definition of “is” is…but here’s a fact check site for you:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/feb/04/robert-gibbs/stimulus-bill-includes-projects-some-consider-earm/
I’d go through the bill…but I don’t think I could get back to you by the end of the year.
Posted by: Really, Really | March 16, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
CMON REPUBLICANS TASTE THAT CROW!!
ITS GOOD ISNT IT? CHOW DOWN , AFTER 8 YEARS OF OBAMA YOU CAN COUNT ON HILLARY FOR 8 MORE.
GET YOUR CROW EATING SUIT ON , YOURE GONNA BE SOME BUSY LITTLE CROW MUNCHERS FOR QUITE SOME TIME TO COME.
PALIN IN 2010 !!! ROFL
…WoooooooooHoooooooooooooooo!! lock it in for us liberals PLLLEASE!!!!
Posted by: republican = toast | March 16, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
Just over 50 days and I am so happy I can proudly state that I didn’t vote for Obama! During the transition I thought we might have a moderate Democrat truly interested in bipartisanship and improving our political climate, and country. What we clearly have is an inept, probably corrupt, far left wing idealogue more interested in paying back his special interest supporters than fixing the economy and getting people back to work. I have to agree with the poll regarding Republicans though. As Obama broke his many promises to get rid of corrupt earmarks to sign almost 9000 of them into law it made me sick to know that Republicans sponsored 40% of them. If your choice is to choose between liberal corruption and conservative corruption, what kind of choice is that?????
Posted by: valwayne | March 16, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
What is the matter with people’s thinking? Tell me how is Obama doing a good job? He is not working, he is still campaigning! I thought you measure someone by what he says he will do, and how much of it, he or she actually does! Obama said he was going to end partisanship, well, now we know he is actually dividing the country even further! He blames Bush for the economy, than he chooses the wrong things Bush did with one difference, Obama is doing those wrong things in a greater scale! He talkes about ethics and look at the people he has chosen to work for him! And HE DOES NOT MEAN WHAT HE SAYS! He is Clintonian when it comes to that, he says one thing, e does something else! I just could not understand why people who thought Bush was doing wrong things, specially with the economy and growth of government, would vote for Obama who advocates big government and spending our tax dollars on his liberal views, like paying for abortion. And I am not a pro-life person, I just do not think our tax money should go for paying abortion. Well, the list of wrong things is doing is endless … I just dropped a few …
Posted by: FromBrazil | March 16, 2009, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Today a friend in accounting told my husband that next year at tax time, Obama is going to remove the tax credits for churches and charities. Muslims don’t believe in charity, but Christians do. And today it was announced that Obama is going to tax the Health Care Insurance that people get thru their employers. Whose side is Obama on ?????????
Posted by: from Ohio | March 16, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
FromBrazil said:
“What is the matter with people’s thinking? Tell me how is Obama doing a good job? He is not working, he is still campaigning! I thought you measure someone by what he says he will do, and how much of it, he or she actually does!”
You see FromBrazil…some people don’t look at this as an American thing…it’s totally political. Instead of caring about what is happening to America, they would rather say things like:
“CMON REPUBLICANS TASTE THAT CROW!!
ITS GOOD ISNT IT? CHOW DOWN , AFTER 8 YEARS OF OBAMA YOU CAN COUNT ON HILLARY FOR 8 MORE.
GET YOUR CROW EATING SUIT ON , YOURE GONNA BE SOME BUSY LITTLE CROW MUNCHERS FOR QUITE SOME TIME TO COME.
PALIN IN 2010 !!! ROFL
…WoooooooooHoooooooooooooooo!! lock it in for us liberals PLLLEASE!!!!”
…because, to them it is more about self than about us. Sad, but true.
Posted by: Really, Really | March 16, 2009, 7:53 pm 7:53 pm
“Whose side is Obama on ?????????” The answer: he is on the side of extreme liberal projects, and that means on the side of big government, and get public money to perpetuate his power and the liberal power over the US, which means the loss of the status the US enjoyed all over the world, a prosperous nation that believes in rewarding those who work! Perhaps, the simpler way of explaining is: ” HE IS ON THE SIDE OF SOCIALISM “
Posted by: FromBrazil | March 16, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Really, Really, you know that liberals think the common people cannot take care of themselves, so they think a few elite, know more than anyone else and all people need to trust their enlightened minds and allow them to take care of everyone else! Can you take care of yourself Really, Really? Do you need the government to feed you? Do you need the government to take care of you? Oh, I see, you are actually one of those elite people, who will take care of anyone else, but firts you need to take people’s money away and them distribute them. I am FromBrazil but I am also an American citizen who believe on the greatness of each individual!
Posted by: FromBrazil | March 16, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Talmag posted>>> I am a republican who voted for him and I am still pleased. I am happy that we now have someone who will bring back the respect we once had as a nation…> talmag…I think that’s great and thank you for saying so!!!
I am an Independent turned Democrat that also voted for Obama… And I am also still very well pleased…
I enjoy his weekly addresses and visit Whitehouse.gov frequently.
I am happy with the Bush policies that Obama has overturned… If it makes Cheney unhappy, I AM thrilled…
No matter which person was elected President, there was going to be a stimulus, Obama’s is better than the GOP could have put forth if they were in charge well because we have seen it before and it hasn’t worked… Plus, Obama puts his stimulus on Recovery.gov…Transparency was Unheard of before this President…
I am happy with investing in our own country for a change, in our infrastructure, in education, and I look forward to what healthcare reform will look like under an Obama administration…
I work in a wholesale business and health insurance is the #1 complaint from the small business owners and the self employed that come in.
And investments in science and in green energy and technology sound much more common sense than “Drill baby, drill.
I voted for Obama because of his believe in diplomacy and thought it smart as hell for him to put Hillary in as Secretary of State.
I watch as the GOP still play politics and plan for 2012 instead of putting their efforts in to helping the President get us out of this Recession.
My beliefs are a lot different than many of the people I work with but, each day I must put aside my own beliefs to get the job done…and especially now, be grateful that I still have one.
Seems to me that politicians could agree to disagree and then find common ground from which to work together especially right now. But from what I have seen of the GOP, I don’t believe that will happen.
I am thinking that for those that are sorry they voted for him are either really impatient and don’t have a firm grasp of chaos within our economy…cuz it has only been a couple of months… proving that Obama cannot be the Messiah… the Messiah probably would have all this mess cleaned up by now… O.. wait a minute… Even the Messiah could not prevent others from hanging him up on the cross…
Or,
They didn’t listen to the things Obama said he would do… cuz that is what he is doing… I am very happy with this President…
I also understand that for some,,,first he’s not doing enough… then he is doing too much…
Some just don’t like him and will criticize his every word and deed no matter what…
But things they are and will be changing… Scary!;)!
Posted by: theafalcon200 | March 16, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
I can’t believe that a President who says what the teleprompter tells him to say, was elected.
I wonder what will happen when the teleprompter breaks down.
Posted by: TheEnforcer | March 16, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
theafalcon200, your comment about the Messiah, meaning Jesus Christ, is as ignorant as any I have ever read! If you knew anything about him, you would know that his hanging on the cross was ultimatelly God’s Will for the salvation of those believe him! But I know you have no clue about this! As you have no clue about whom Obama really is! Ignorance is bliss, isn’t it?
Posted by: FromBrazil | March 16, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
theafalcon200, your comment about the Messiah, meaning Jesus Christ, is as ignorant as any I have ever read! If you knew anything about him, you would know that his hanging on the cross was ultimatelly God’s Will for the salvation of those believe him! But I know you have no clue about this! As you have no clue about whom Obama really is! Ignorance is bliss, isn’t it?
Posted by: FromBrazil | March 16, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
… continuing on your statements some this … some that …theafalcon200 … some were really seduced by Obama oratory skills and can not see how deceitful … Obama is all rhetoric and no sound action!
Posted by: FromBrazil | March 16, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
I’m always amused to hear republicans suddenly discovering fiscal conservatism now that they aren’t in power. where are the INTELLIGENT republicans? instead we get twits who complain when the public wants some of those tax breaks rolled back that they gave their best high roller donors and other corporate buddies.
I’m relieved that we have Obama and team to weather this crisis.
Posted by: trueblue | March 16, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
What self-respecting pollster considers a shift from 62% to 59% significant when there is a 3-4% margin of error? That means the first reading could have been 59%(or 65%) and the second 62% (or 56%). Stop reaching for the headline and start looking for the trendline.
Posted by: Noman | March 16, 2009, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm
We are in Deep Doo whe the Teleprompter breaks down!
Posted by: trace | March 16, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Great name “trueblue” … you will really see blue as result of liberal policies beeing put in place! As for INTELLIGENT REPUBLICANS! None of us are intelligent as you are! Someone who does not see that big government elites treat you as someone who can not take care of yourself! You need the government to take money from one and give to another in some way shape or form! And you are one of those seduced by a great orator! I give that to Obama he is ALL TALK!
Posted by: FromBrazil | March 16, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Dear Americans, forget what our revered President said recently, “You don’t spend what you don’t have.” Why not? We are broke already, a couple of trillions more of debts won’t make too much difference now. Screw the future generations! Let’s enjoy everyday like we have no tomorrow.
As long as the dumb Chinese are willing to loan us more money, we’ll keep borrowing and enjoying our good lives. That has been the American way and that’s how we are going to bring back our American glory. Better yet, let’s beat up anyone who still saves money in the bank, for these misers are traitors that never have learned to indulge their lives, and so ruined our great economy. We’ll take away all of their money, spend them all to stimulate the economy of this great nation. And above all, give every family a nice house for free so that every one can afford to raise 12 kids like the welfare woman of the octaplets.
Don’t blame our revered President, for he is our savior to lead us out of this misery. The mountain of national debt is for us, the common, to share, not him. Our savior should be kept free from any suffering of the financial turmoil. He deserves every kind of luxury, including the 112 billion dollar helicopter, the $240,000 pure salary without any taxes (mind you, it’s only half million of pretax pay), the free mansion full of every kind of servants, and many other amenities.
Our savior is a great man. He preaches high honesty and integrity; he denounces pork in spending, lobbyist, and corruption in the government; and he showed no hesitation to scold the disgraceful bankers and the CEOs for wasting the money.
He couldn’t help it if everything he denounced comes to life in this administration. It is his associates to be blamed for letting the sausages sneaked into his debt-laden budget; let the liars and cheaters chosen to lead our government; and let the AIG executives keep their millions of bonuses.
We were so dumb to elect Bush twice, but we are very sure this one has to be a smart choice. God will never forsake our President and America!
Posted by: phonychanges | March 16, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Next up, Obama wants injured veterans to pay their own medical bills due to injuries sustained in battle instead of the VA picking up the bill. This is not a joke or misprint.
From the AP news wire:
“It became apparent during our discussion today that the President intends to move forward with this unreasonable plan,” said Commander David K. Rehbein of The American Legion. “He says he is looking to generate $540-million by this method, but refused to hear arguments about the moral and government-avowed obligations that would be compromised by it.”
Wake up, America. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see what Obama is doing to the sacred trust between our government and the soldiers it sends into battle. It’s just another institution he intends to dismantle.
Posted by: Woody | March 16, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
6.Hedge fund managers and everyone else with an income of $250,000 should pay a smaller percentage of taxes than the middle class.
Actually this is wrong on two accounts. Even under GWB, this group paid a larger amount of their income in tax as a percentage (35%) than the middle class (15%). The top 5% of US income earners represent 60% of total tax collections.
This is also true of local and state taxes. The only break they receive is the cutoff of payroll taxes (FICA) when they reach the threshold income. These are also the group that will likely be means tested for Social Security payments when they retire and will likely receive no benefit.
We need treat our rich people well and perhaps grow a few more. When Obama runs through their money, he’s coming after ours.
Posted by: Illinois GOP | March 16, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
The approval numbers will continue to drop as the Obama spend fest continues. Republicans wont be the only ones crying for the next 4 or 8 years!
Posted by: obama=socialism | March 16, 2009, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Today on CNN they said Obama is scaling back the Navy. He’s on a different walk from his talk.
Posted by: from Ohio | March 16, 2009, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
The country won’t survive 4 years of Obama……Russia has move themselves and missles to Cuba, China is getting ready to forclose, and Obama is turning loose terrorists to boot…all with killling our military and economy. Impeach Obama NOW
Posted by: PresGov | March 16, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
dems. have been in control for the last 2 years, and look at the mess. now add obama and what a real mess!
Posted by: florida | March 16, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
The below post is flawed on so many levels, its hard to correct it… but I’ll certainly try…
“THE PEW POLL we need to see:
“Which of the following Republican-Herbert Hoover economic proposals of the Republican do you approve of?”
“1.Let the financial sector collapse as it did in the Great Depression.”
Bush and his treasury secretary took very active steps to shore up the financial sector. That was where the main problem was, and that was what they focused on. Remember TARP? Obama has done nothing but dither about the financial sector, while trying to get a raft of other issues passed that have nothing to do with the financial crisis.
“2.Trade our jobs to India and China where there is no burdensome regulation like the clean air act, as per the prescription of Milton Freedman.”
Smoot Hawley was one of the cornerstones of the great depression. That is, protectionism was a principal cause. It was passed under Hoover, but is exactly the opposite of what republicans want to do. However, this depression inducing Hoover policy does sound like something you would endorse, and sounds like something Obama endorsed on the campaign trail, and in some pats of his recovery policies.
“3.NO work on infrastructure. You probably won’t be on it the next time a bridge collapses into the Mississippi.”
Republicans actually proposed that stimulus money be used for real infrastructure, like bridges and freeways. Thing that have a lasting dividend for the economy. These were, for the most part, rejected in favor of the overwhelming pork and mindless spending provisions in the stimulus bill. Note that pork does not just mean earmarks, either. Pork is just wastefull spending whether done by earmark or initially drafted into the bill that inures little benefit to the economy and just works to pay off favors to members of congress.
“4.NO money for states, resulting in the layoffs of millions of teachers, firemen, and police.”
This has nothing to do with “Hoover” or thelast depression. States need to come up with their own solutions. If the US Govt. bails them out they will retain little fiscal discipline, and the federal funds will become necessary year after year as a source of regular spending for the state. See California (a state I grew up in and live in, and am sad to see going down the toilet due to policies that Obama is endorsing that have already wreaked their havoc here.
“5.END all regulation of Wall Street. They have proven that they know how to get the job done, selling credit default swaps!”
This is a straw-man. No one advocated ending all regulation…. no one! Note that Bush advocated tighter regulations of Fannie and Freddie, who blocked that? Note that Sarbanes Oxley was passed during Bush’s term (much to the detriment of our public markets and the ability of entrepreneurs to take great tech companies public). This one shows that you have little command of the facts.
“6.Hedge fund managers and everyone else with an income of $250,000 should pay a smaller percentage of taxes than the middle class.”
You are severly misinformed here as well. Are you aware that the % of US tax receipts from upper income individual actually increased as a % of total tax receipts? That means that the “rich” paid more taxes proportionally than others even though they had lower tax rate. How do you think that happened? How do you think that lower tax rates meant that the federal deficit was actually reduced after they were passed and that tax receipts overall when up drastically? BTW, some of the policies that doomed Hoover were to raise taxes to prop up federal revenues. Who is currently proposing to do that now?
Get your facts straight before you post please….
Posted by: Tired of Ignorance | March 16, 2009, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
i thought obama was going to send me a check in the mail? i need it. thanks
Posted by: justin | March 16, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
has he shown his green card yet? i still never heard where he was born. in the the U.S? OR ANOTHER COUNTRY?
Posted by: dems :( | March 16, 2009, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
He is still at about 90% with the media.
Posted by: Keith Olbermann | March 16, 2009, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
“My President has my support for the monumental job he inherited, and my prayers that he can do his job without the slashes and snipes of an ungrateful populace.”
Sorry, but anyone with military experience can tell you that “support and prayers” cannot magically transform a man with no common sense, no understanding of human behavior, and no proven track record of executive leadership into a pragmatic, competent, and successful leader. That’s just reality.
None of us who studied Obama before the election is in the least surprised by what we’re seeing right now. The media managed to dupe millions, and they continue to use constant distractions to cover up their complicity to this day.
Posted by: Jenn | March 16, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
It is no question that Obama is being stiffled by senators with vested interests in his own party.He needs to tackle them very carefully in a way that they will fade away in the next elections.But this time he has no go.Having said republicans have no damn right to criticize him as they are the one who screwed this country left right and centre in the last 8 years shaking their heads and anything shakable to what Bush backed by Rush and other croonies in their own party starting with the war.They better shut their mouth and support the president in this crisis to come out of the deep hole.On the other hand if they play pity politics and throw mud at each and everything at him, their party will for another two decades will never win any elections.People are so frustrated with them to the extent that they are not ready to digest all the lies they propagated in order to elect Bush to Power and lies followed in the name of war on Iraq and recession forecasts.
Posted by: CAdemocrat | March 17, 2009, 12:46 am 12:46 am
I’m sick and tired of hearing how Obama inherited this financial mess. Was he not a US Senator before being elected President? Therefore, he also is responsible and accountable.
Of course his approval ratings are falling. People have learned that he truly was inexperienced and that he has no intention of following through with his campaign promises. Obama pledged that he would be ready for the job on day one. What a lie. He and his cabinet are still not ready and he’s now two months into his presidency.
Posted by: GrannySunny | March 17, 2009, 1:36 am 1:36 am
“They better shut their mouth and support the president in this crisis to come out of the deep hole.On the other hand if they play pity politics and throw mud at each and everything at him, their party will for another two decades will never win any elections.”
So, if Republicans continue to voice their dissent against the Obama administration, then their party will self-destruct according to you. But you’re obviously a Democrat, so why would you care? Isn’t that what you want?!?!
Liberalism sure is one peculiar affliction.
Posted by: Stacey | March 17, 2009, 1:36 am 1:36 am
For four years the libs squealed like stuck pigs about how W. stole the election when the Supremes stopped the recount. Now the conservatives can cry about how Obama is really a Kenyan and he was really elected by foreign money from the Middle East. My how the times have changed.
Posted by: thethinice | March 17, 2009, 2:31 am 2:31 am
WOW! So Bush leaves office in complete disgrace with an approval rating of 24%, Obama is still getting anywhere from 7% to 12% more support from those that didn’t vote for him in the first place. And that some how only 57 days after taking office some of you complete idiots that say in one breath that your glad Bush is gone but now it’s even worse…WHAT??? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING??? Some of you are seriously ill if you think that your making any sense first of all. Comparing Obama’s short time in office with any President in modern history. You have to read books or remember the 30′s for any reference if your going to be objective in anyway what so ever.
Posted by: Nick | March 17, 2009, 2:38 am 2:38 am
FromBrazil posted>>> theafalcon200, your comment about the Messiah, meaning Jesus Christ, is as ignorant as any I have ever read!…………………….
speaking of ignorant…..
The point I was making was addressing those who have referred to Obama as the Messiah…
Even in the story of Jesus, it was his own people in the end that crucified him and had him hung on the cross…
Much like some Americans apparently would like to do to Obama…
Even as many in the rest of the world celebrated as Obama became President of the United States…Other countries were watching and were happy to have Bush out of the WH and Obama in…
I find it humorous that out of all I said, that you got stuck on just that one sentence. That’s kinda funny…
Although this is not the place for it,
perhaps we could debate the topic of religion under a more related topic, you may find that I am not as ignorant of Christ as you have assumed..;)!
Posted by: theafalcon200 | March 17, 2009, 6:58 am 6:58 am
When did we decide to overlook the fact that this guy befriended a known hardcore anti American terrorist? Oh yeah, I forgot,we’re ignorant…we’re misinformed by biased media and Hollywood…we’re racist and only voted for him because of his skin color…we’re guilt ridden…we actually appreciate the fact he befriended a known hardcore anti American terrorist…we actually appreciate the fact he attended a gathering for 20 years where its leader spewed anti American, racist, anti Semite and Marxist hate…we appreciated the fact he took his family to that same gathering…we appreciate his reasoning for NOT wearing a flag pin…we appreciate all the other anti American comments by him, his wife, his Pastor, the domestic terrorist he befriended, and several other associates…we appreciated him lying about all of the above…we ignorantly accepted his excuses about all of the above..during the campaign when Hillary was asked about how she would respond to Iran attacking Israel with a nuclear weapon, which would slaughter about 10 million people in Israel including the thousands of Americans in Israel, Hillary said she would obliterate them in response to the attack….so we appreciated when Obama said he thought Hillarys language on that matter was a little harsh.
And now that he’s president, we think any problems in the country are Bush’s, the GOP’s or conservative American’s fault because we’re ignorant or misinformed by biased media and Hollywood. Either that or we appreciate all the problems that are and/or will be Obama’s fault because we have no love for this country.
900 million to Hamas, 800 million pork laden stimulus, 400 million pork laden omnibus, no more “war on terror”, terrorists given constitutional rights and all the rest in the first 50 days…the tip of an iceberg that our goodship America is making a hard left turn directly into.
But thats what we voted for, so thats what we deserve.
Posted by: Lary | March 17, 2009, 8:21 am 8:21 am
Obama doesn’t know what he is doing. The man is lost.
Posted by: John Potem | March 17, 2009, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Less than 2 months in office and Obama is already a big failure. I hope the fools who elected him are regretting their decision now.
Posted by: Jane | March 17, 2009, 9:00 am 9:00 am
Less than 2 months in office and Obama is already a big failure. Can we have John McCain back.
Posted by: Jane | March 17, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am
John, your comments are very intelligent without being a hater or being mean. You sound like a Good person and understand without being a judge. I likr our new President and understand he onlt been on the job for two months amd is really trying to help the people even if some of his issue I don’t agree with, am not God so I do not judge, I just try to understand what going on and need some help sometime!… so Could you explan to me in laymen term:
I don’t understand the problem everyone is having with the new stimulus package? even if it did have earmarks or project that need finance help for improvements? What’s wrong with earmarks, or pet projects if there are used in State for improvements? That create jobs, or keep jobs that people work to pay taxes? or am I missing something here? With all the taxes we pay into the IRS, State taxes, and other kind of sale taxes, etc. Is these taxes not spend for were we live? Even the special groups that do research in health, environments issues and help our poor, education issue or for new developments that help improve our lives? What have I been working for since I was 12 years old? If you going to take my money all these years in Taxes and I don’t see improvements in my life, or in my surrounding then we don’t need a government!
We all should work and keep our wage to live on and save only to make the needed improvement in what our State.
I guess I don’t understand government, only that the IRS has been taking a lifetime of hard earned wages and now when other need help including myself, there are a lot of holdup within the government to spend the money with accountable? Don’t care which party is in the government, if we are paying there wages it only fair the government should help the people. The people that don’t need the goverment help even after paying there paychecks don’t care were there taxes dollars are going, need to stop say that, because if you like me. I want to know that my labor is not done in void.
Posted by: LittleLady | March 17, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Let’s do away with this charade that the Dems arent most culpable in all this with their pushing banks to give out loans to those who couldnt be trusted to pay their utility bills let alone a mortgage.
The top five recipients of Fannie, and Freddie contributions are all Democrats, Obama being 2nd on that list in only 2 years as a jr senator.
Obamas outrage is a feigned as can be. Tim Geithner was the architect of AIGs bailout contract. Obama in 50 days has proven himself to be the most corrupt , and clueless president in history.
Hiring a tax cheat to run the treasury, and IRS????? No red flags there. and,,,How many pledges has the “sound judment” candidate broken?
Posted by: Badger | March 17, 2009, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Obama pledged that he would be ready for the job on day one. What a lie. He and his cabinet are still not ready and he’s now two months into his presidency.
Posted by: GrannySunny | Mar 17, 2009 1:36:10 AM
Now ain’t that the truth.
Posted by: John Potem | March 17, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Personally, I say P.U. to Pew. Oabma’s numbers are not slipping at my house. I think he is great. He’s in there pitching every day, trying to make things better for all of us, even the ungrateful jerks who bash him every day. He communicates to the highest common denominator, yet never talks down to anyone. He’s not afraid to try things a new way. He’s young. He has energy, optimism, brains and a great smile. This whole nation is in such a bitchy mood that Superman himself could not satisfy the whole populace. I say thank goodness for our new prez.
Posted by: Phoenix lady | March 17, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am
I hope this trend continues…he has whined from day one about “inheriting” a mess…hell he knew what he was getting into, but his inflated ego and arrogance got in the way. Too bad he is taking the country and quite possibly the world down with him. Hitler in a different or empty suit.
Posted by: Conservative Gal | March 17, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
To John, with all my love:)
http://meetchristians.com/php/randal/correctinghistory.html
Posted by: Fiveftfury | March 17, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
He will be below 40% in a year. Below 30% in 2 years.
Posted by: Gary | March 17, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
To conservative Gal: How can you possibly compare President Obama to Hitler? At least Obama is for the middle class, unlike his predecessor and a lot smarter! Besides, Hitler was a psychopath who tried to create white supremacy across the globe! Yes, he DID inherit this “mess”, but what other alternative is there? Rely on the Republicans again? Be serious!!!
Posted by: Grecian lady | March 17, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
The most unitelligent statement made on this post “He’s president for the next 12 years, so get used to it” This guy is going to get shut down with the 2010
Congressional and Senate elections.
His trust to the general population that elected him is slipping, as he tries to railroad his liberal agenda.
Nothing works like checks and balances.
Posted by: ZZ | March 17, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
His ratings will continue to slip as he breaks EVERY ONE of his campaign promises – transparency, no lobbyists, lower taxes on 95%, won’t get out of Iraq for a decade — Centrists will soon ALL wish they could take their vote back!!!
Posted by: Mark in Indiana | March 17, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm
Making things better for everyone? You have to be kidding!
His latest plan is to make soldiers pay for their own
medical care.
And to those who think Teleprompter Obama will tax only the rich: guess again. The middle class will get hit hard, too.
Posted by: Michelle | March 17, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
SOME COMMENTS SUGGEST THAT THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN THING/DEBACLE/FAULT.
MAYBE THEY ARE TECHNICALLY CORRECT. BUT. IF AN INDICTEMNT WAS BEING PREPARED AND ACCOMPANYING EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT INDICTMENT YOU WOULD SEE THREE REPUBLICANS NAMES, COLLINS, SNOWE AND SPECTOR AND, AT LEAST, 200 DEMOCRATS NAMES.
OUR DEFICIT IS IN NOT HAVING A MAJORITY OF CONSERVATIVES IN CONGRESS FOR THE PAST 60 YEARS AND NEVER A REAL CONSERVATIVE IN THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE SAME TIME PERIOD.
WHEN WE LOST THE CONSERVATIVE BASE IN OUR NATION WE LOST WHAT BUILT THIS NATION. AMERICA SAT SILENT AND ALLOWED THE MEDIA AND ACADEMIA TO DEFINE CONSERVATIVE AS MEAN, RATHER THAN WHAT IT TRULY MEANS- RESPONSIBLE.
JOYHN M. CHINN
Posted by: JOHN CHINN | March 17, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
I can’t believe it. . .a politician, not doing what he promised to do during the campaign . . . I just can’t believe it. I know has the most liberal background of any presidential candidate in history, but he said he was going to govern from the center, and now he’s not? He promised all of us, if elected, he would change and be everyone’s president. In my wildest dreams, I never could have anticipated this.
Posted by: Spread That Wealth | March 17, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
NOW THAT WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, it should be obvious that regulation is necesary to protect the economy and the Republicans are full of…
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John,
Very nice, now perhaps when you get afew moments, go back and look at How Larry Summers & Bill clinton strongly backed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.
Then move forward, and see how the Dems blocked efforts by Bush to add regulations.
I will state this over and over for those like you who have this incredibly IGNORANT concept that ONLY the Republicans caused this.
THEERE IS BLAME ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE!!!
As far as Obama following or not folowing the previous addministration, The POINT now is he is trying to do TOO much, TOO Fast. YOU , Obama and others have not learned the lessons here at all ! TARP to “stimulator”…We are passing enormous spending bills with far reaching implications with almost ZERO idea of how many problems all this will create – SIMPLY because we are rushing to “prevent a crisis from becoming a catastrophe”. That is why the TARP funds vaporized and now everyone is asking where did it go and getting no answers.
Right NOW Obama needs to get Treasury properly staffed & get Geithner moving!
Posted by: Mike_C | March 17, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
Michelle:
If John, the soldier has to pay his own medical treatment, it comes out of his pocket—that’s not the case. It would come from his own insurance carrier–that’s different than paying for his own.
As I’ve said before I don’t agree with it. VA should cover it. That is a promise we made to our men and women in uniform.
Posted by: George | March 17, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
LittleLady,
I think that a negative response to the stimulus bill is understandable.
First off, this really is a huge amount of money we are talking about. I have heard that the S&L bailout during the George H Bush presidency cost U.S. taxpayers about $150 Billion. We have forked over more money than that to AIG alone!
Secondly, people have an uneasy feeling about the possible inflationary effect of all this stimulus. This concern should be mitigated when the difference between an inflationary and deinflationary cycle.
Simply put, inflation results from their being more demand than the economy can produce efficiently.
Deflation results when businesses lay off all their employees in an attempt to lower their prices, in an attempt to draw in customers, when their are too few customers for the production capacity of the economy. Of course, when all the employers lay off employees at the same time, this reduces the available pool of customers.
It is also the case that some people want to see the administration’s policies fail because their fear of the “liberals” succeeding is greater than their fear of an economic depression.
Posted by: John | March 17, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
I wish that people would give Obama the chance to make a difference. It is really hard to solve the countries problems in a few months and the world has even bigger ones. I personally would like to see global poverty to be addressed, there are 963 million people (throughout the world mind you) that go to sleep hungry every night and 25,000 die every day from hunger and malnutrition according to the borgen project(www.borgenproject.org). There are 191 countries, including the U.S., that created the Millennium Development Goals in 2000 and I would like to see them fulfilled. Have we really become that selfish that we think that we need the money more than those 963 million? There are 980 million that live on less than $1 per day. Think of only getting to eat a McDonalds hamburger or only getting french fries…… I know I couldn’t survive on that much food each day. I’d probably want to eat my arm or paper or some weird random thing to cope with the hunger. I think it’s time to make a difference in the world and to make America the proud nation that we used to be.
Posted by: cougar_gal | March 17, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
cougar-gal– though this may seem calous, its not OUR responsibility to feed the world. Its our responsibility to protect and adhere to the concerns and needs of our own. We live in the most affluent country in the worlds history. One of the main reasons for this is that our constitution created ablueprint for individual freedom. One of the reason’s so many are unwilling to give OBama a chance is that they see his vision of our country as one where we have LESS freedom and more government control..that was NOT what the founde3rs of this country had in mind. Our constitution only provides us with the right to “pursue happiness” through our own ability we succeed or fail.. the governments job is to protect us, but not to control us.
I will surely anger some on here.. but I for one do NOT want natioanl healthcare, I do NOT want an expanded welfare state, I DO NOT want an economy dependent on government spending, and I do not want my government telling me how much money I should or should not make.. or anyone else for that matter..
Do I want Obama to fail.. NO, but as long as his policies continue to restructure our government into a socail democracy, I DO WANT HIS POLICIES TO FAIL..
Posted by: arkie vet | March 17, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Here is the problem with Stephanopolous. He only sees the American public as right = conservative = republican OR left = liberal = Democrat.
He couldn’t be farther from the truth. But that’s because he’s nothing but a partisan shill for whoever pays him, starting with the Clintons.
A far more perceptive analysis would be that Americans who are populist, on the right and left, are turning against the neocons and neoliberals (of which Shillary, Dodd, Pelosi, Dirty Harry, Bammy and the rest of them ALL ARE MEMBERS).
So George, just to let you know. Populists (on both sides) are against corporate bailouts, dirty food, torture and rendition, politicans that lie, Big AG, Big Pharma, Freek Trade, WTO, NAFTA, world banks, secret banks, slave and drug trading on our borders, HMO’s and other countries that forbid us to put America first.
Got it now, George? Corporatists on one side, the American public on the other. If you don’t believe me, sit back and get some popcorn… Its the populists that are going to push him off the pedestal onto his ass.
And the next time a politician wants to campaign as a populist, with speeches and rhetoric, and then give us the corporate screw job not even a month later, we will push him or her off the pedestal before they even get on.
Posted by: tropicgirl | March 17, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
To Arkie Vet: May I remind you that Social Security is, in fact, a social program that still works? Yes, the program has problems and I’m sure that Obama will address them. Why is “Socialism” such a dirty word these days? Also, are you really satisfied with your monthly healthcare premium? I’m currently on COBRA and NOT HAPPY W/IT!! Let’s try something different. The U.S. is the only nation that relies on its businesses to provide healthcare and obviously, it’s no longer working!!!
As Obama repeatedly says, “if you’re happy with your existing medical plan, then stay with it”. What’s wrong with that? We need more CHOICES with regard to health care!!
Posted by: Grecian lady | March 17, 2009, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
To Arkie Vet: May I remind you that Social Security is, in fact, a social program that still works? Yes, the program has problems and I’m sure that Obama will address them. Why is “Socialism” such a dirty word these days? Also, are you really satisfied with your monthly healthcare premium? I’m currently on COBRA and NOT HAPPY W/IT!! Let’s try something different. The U.S. is the only nation that relies on its businesses to provide healthcare and obviously, it’s no longer working!!!
As Obama repeatedly says, “if you’re happy with your existing medical plan, then stay with it”. What’s wrong with that? We need more CHOICES with regard to health care!!
Posted by: Grecian lady | March 17, 2009, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
WOW Grecian lady…..you think there will still be a “choice” after “O” and the democrits finish??? In Britain, the government controlled medical necessity board decided that if you have glaucoma…….you have to go blind in one eye before they will aprove a new treatment……after much outrage…they have apparently reversed this decision.
Have you ever investigated how much money the Canadian Health Care system spends in the USA each year for treatments unavailable in Canada???
Change we can believe in???? Is SOCIALISM a dirty word??? Only if you have never experienced FREEDOM………if you want socialism…….just say so.
Posted by: socialism101 | March 17, 2009, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Lol. This is ridiculous…Give the man a year before you judge anything he’s done..Im independent, but I can see most of the people on this blog are overly partisan…I said these same things when Bush was inoffice even though I didn’t vote for him…But the people who think Obama should erase in 2 months what took in some cases decades to amount, is ludicrous..There will be alot of things that he will do that will get both sides upset..But the thing I like about him is he’s a pragmatist, not an ideologue..An no1 can refute this..
Posted by: HellsEye | March 18, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Republicans need to stop whining and remember their massive failures under Bush have left Obama a very difficult job of cleaning up.
Posted by: chambers | March 18, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am
hey socialism101 – you make it sound like there’s no private health insurance in England. Total crap. I’m British – grew up in Surrey – and I always laugh when I hear paranoid Americans make their wildly inaccurate claims about the National Health in the UK. Allow me to explain: while the National Health Service provides an inexpensive healthcare safety net for everyone, Private Healthcare – insurance, doctors, hospitals, etc – are still widely available for those who can afford them. It’s quite the same in Canada and most other nations. You Americans always make it sound like there is no choice left – which is entirely absurd. Also, your scare stories about “rationing” etc are just nonsense. You seize upon isolated incidents and blow them all out of proportion. Meanwhile, the average American’s health and access to healthcare is declining at an alarming rate – putting the vaunted American healthcare system on par with that of third world countries. Bravo, America – way to lose the respect of the civilized world!
Posted by: Nervion | March 18, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
tropicgirl – um, no. I’m a populist and I still support Obama. You don’t speak for me. Thanks!
Posted by: Rex Reed | March 18, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
JOHN CHINN – ever wonder WHY we’ve never had a “real conservative” in office in the last 60 years? Could it be it’s because when so-called fiscal conservatives are actually elected to run the government they’re always complaining about, they realize that it’s a lot bigger job than they realized and that big government is actually a necessity for running a civilization as complex as ours? Sorry, son, but the cold hard truth is that “real conservatism” is a false ideology that just isn’t up to the task of good governance in the modern world. That’s why every single Conservative Republican for the last 60 years has governed like a Democrat once they’re elected. “Real Conservatism” just doesn’t work in the real world.
Posted by: The Realist | March 18, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am
Polls can be slanted to read positively or negatively. Obama just better not screw with the veterans. One of his proposals is to shift payment for service connected illnesses from the VA to private insurers. That is really messed up. These men and women have rished there lives fighting for this country. It is our responsibility as a nation to take care of them. Veterans call your Senators and Representatives and Veterans organizations!!!!
Posted by: mj | March 18, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
NERVION,
Thanks for explaining the UK’s health care policies. I love feedback from people who have experienced programs that we Americans have not. I consider myself an open-minded woman and I am certainly open to new ideas.
Posted by: Grecian lady | March 18, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Obama does everything he promised: he promised Socialism and we are getting it.
He promised change – and a lot of change is now in the pockets of execs…
Posted by: Oh Bammuh | March 18, 2009, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Obama is a lying, manipulative phony full of bravado and empty promises. The guy needs a teleprompter because he can’t remember the script. When he does speak off the cuff, we get the truth — “Joe the Plumber…share the wealth.” It’s his misfortune to have inherited really, really SERIOUS economic problems. In any other period, he could coast (his natural condition: doing as little as possible, and soaking up the credit for other people’s work). But in this economy, his indolence, his laziness, his narcissism will do him in. He’s not just going to go down. He’ll go down in FLAMES! I just wonder what will be left to salvage when he’s gone.
Posted by: NOBAMA | March 18, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
Obama is a lying, manipulative phony full of bravado and empty promises. The guy needs a teleprompter because he can’t remember the script. When he does speak off the cuff, we get the truth — “Joe the Plumber…share the wealth.” It’s his misfortune to have inherited really, really SERIOUS economic problems. In any other period, he could coast (his natural condition: doing as little as possible, and soaking up the credit for other people’s work). But in this economy, his indolence, his laziness, his narcissism will do him in. He’s not just going to go down. He’ll go down in FLAMES! I just wonder what will be left to salvage when he’s gone.
Posted by: NOBAMA | March 18, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
I am a disabled former nurse. It is finally good to see an average person from average means in the “White House”. Someone who cares about the people instead of their own pockets. Sorry, Republicans, you made the mess and as usual you want to blame everyone else. Everyone I know is willing to give Mr. Obama 2 years to fix your disasters.
Posted by: Becky | March 18, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
We, the Republicans, would love to divorce you Dumborats!!!
We will split the land and you can have all your wierdo devices-abortions etc…
We will keep our guns, pharmaceutical companies and God.
We want a divorce. There is NO way that we can get along with your culture.
Let’s just split. Please do not call for money or help….
Posted by: mary | March 18, 2009, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Obama actually has poll numbers lower than Bush’s at a similar time in their presidencies. And, given the current state of things, he has no where to go but down. The financial crisis and bailouts are going to hurt especially after the public realizes what the Democrats did. They can’t hide it and can’t change the subject by blaming Bush and Limbaugh forever. The Democrats are going to have to take responsibility sometime for their actions. They are the ones that passed and signed the criminal bailouts. They are the ones who added amendments protecting bonuses. They are the ones who took the most campaign money from corporations like AIG. Saying 10,000 times that it is Bush’s fault doesn’t get it anymore. Obama, because of his inexperience, has made a lot of bad decisions that are going to have long term consequences. Let me be the first to tell you “I told you so”.
Posted by: MadJayhawk | March 19, 2009, 2:41 am 2:41 am
Obama is turning out to be the worst President this country ever had. Can we sack him now before he does further damage to our economy and country.
Posted by: John Thomas | March 19, 2009, 3:44 am 3:44 am
The guy can’t win. The press is out to crucify Obama in cahoots with their GOP masters who own the major media outlets. No matter what Obama does, the press will put a negative spin on it. We need to bring back the Fairness Doctrine. Obama is foolish to oppose that and he needs to change his stance.
Posted by: JL | March 19, 2009, 5:39 am 5:39 am
All you Obama haters are total hypocrites. Suddenly, everybody among the neocon morons is a critic, now that Obama is in.
Where was your criticism during eight years of malfeasance and corruption? Nary a word.
The whole country had to be cowed and intimidated by the threat of being called ‘not patriotic enough’.
Now all you hypocrites who MADE THIS MESS feel free to take a shot at Obama.
Why didn’t you feel free to take a WELL DESERVED shot at the Bush Administration, hmmmm?
I make an irrefutable point: Neocons, blame yourselves for supporting the Bush administration that did all this economic damage. You are just partisan obstructinists, that is all you are now. You guys put us into this tank, Obama didn’t. Accountablity is something you toothless southern banjo-playing GOPer ignoramuss have forgotten.
Give Obama time to see if he is wrong. He’s only been in office for a month or two.
I add my voice loud and clear in support of Obama and wish all you miserable blame-throwers would start blaming George W. Bush and beyond him, the whole right wing of you on the stupid side of the American electorate.
YOU CONS were collaborators and enablers of Bush Administration crimes and STILL WON’T OWN YOUR FAULT IN THIS. YOU ARE TOO CROOKED TO BE ASHAMED.
Posted by: JL | March 19, 2009, 5:46 am 5:46 am
Mary: You Republicans are the dumb ones. You won’t do any such thing. If you think you can ‘split the land’ and create a civil war, you will lose There are more of us Democrats than there are of you Repukelicans and we would love to divorce you too. You’re too dumb to pour p*ss out of a boot. You can have your sister marryin’ uneducated, toothless bigots in your pimple states that have NOTHING to offer anyone but sheer stupidity and hatred of anything rational. Put up your confederate flags you dumbo’s Thera are a lot of us that are not afraid of you big mouth grand standers. Don’t threaten anyone or you might have to see what losers you guys are. We dislike you as much as you do us. We’ll see what your buying up guns will get you. There are a lot of concentration camps that your hero George W. Bush prepared for the eventualiy of an inssuretion. These may be where you will have to go if you rise up in a second Civil War. We can whoop you again, just like we did in 1865 if you want to push it. All your side of the aisle has done is pull this country into the dark ages and into the backward status of a Third World Country. Your states are stupid and reactdionary.
We will keep our guns, pharmaceutical companies and God.
We want a divorce. There is NO way that we can get along with your culture.
Let’s just split. Please do not call for money or help….
Posted by: JL | March 19, 2009, 5:55 am 5:55 am
It’s not the conservative democrats that feel betrayed by Obama, it’s the LIBERAL ONES.
Posted by: love liberty | March 19, 2009, 6:39 am 6:39 am
I am completely convinced that most people do not have a real life. They spend 99% of their time bashing other people and never focus on fixing themselves. What are they doing to help our country? Are they even helping their community, better yet, their own households? Our current President has been in office for less than two months and people are saying he is the worst ever? This is amazing to me. He is starting to be vilified more than George Bush! A country divided will soon fall and if we do not stop this foolishness, we will all pay for it. Our economy, national security, educational future and life as we know it will all slip away if we do not support the efforts of this President. We are at a crossroads as a country and he has inherited the biggest mess of any President in history. If all of these naysayers think that they can do a better job RUN FOR PRESIDENT! Chances are they do not have the heart (or the intellect.)
Posted by: DA | March 19, 2009, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Hence the appearance on Leno.
Desperate candidates always hit the talkshows when they are losing or falling.
Obama thinks he is still campaigning. Can’t really blame him though, it is all he’s done over the last two and a half years…
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Posted by: Johnny L | March 22, 2009, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
The problem lies with the liberal democrat with a plantation idea of trying to be part of the help that is coming, we know that some democrat do have their hand in the pocket of the AIG show! All we get to do is believe in the president on what he trying to do for the country!
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