POTUS: ‘We’re Gonna Have a Signing.’ WH: Not a Public One
ABC News’ Yunji de Nies and Sunlen Miller report:
The White House has indicated that President Barack Obama will sign the omnibus spending bill, just that he will not do so in public. When asked this morning if he’d sign the $410 billion dollar pork-packed bill in public, the president simply told reporters, "We’re gonna have a signing." The White House later explained that the president simply meant that he’ll sign the bill.
"We are doing a good job stimulating our economy here at home," President Obama said. "We’re moving forward in stabilizing the financial system through a whole host of steps that have already been taken, and a number of steps that we intend to take in the future."
The president made his remarks to reporters in the Oval office after his daily economic briefing with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, a meeting that up until now, has been private. Geithner will be traveling to London tomorrow to meet with his foreign counterparts in advance of the Group of 20 summit next month.
Both the president and the Treasury secretary touted the upcoming meeting, saying it would be a way to get the international community to come together on economic recovery.
"We can do a really good job here at home with a whole host of policies, but if you continue to see deterioration in the world economy, that’s going to set us back," President Obama said.
Geithner echoed the president, saying, "We want to bring together a new consensus, globally, on how to strengthen this global financial system so that a crisis like this never happens again."
President Obama said the secretary would be focused on ensuring that the economies of developing countries remain stable, and that international trade remains robust.
"How do we make sure, also, that we are not falling into protectionist patterns and that world trade is still something that countries support and embrace as opposed to scaling back from," he said.
When ABC News’ Ann Compton asked the president whether he had yet signed the omnibus, he replied, "We’re gonna have a signing."
– Yunji de Nies and Sunlen Miller

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Shut down the government and go home, PLEASE. STOP THE MADNESS!
Now Obama redefines and OK’s earmarks. His very brief election conversion on earmark reform was just that. Lies, all lies.
Now Pelosi wants another stimulus package. Pelosi needs to redirect the 2/3 of spending from the first package that the CBO designated as non-stimulative.
This is utter lunacy. Better to close down the government than let this continue.
I don’t even have words to describe how angry this makes me.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
He can say all he wants about members of Congress putting their earmarks on their websites, but the fact is the only power he has as President is to veto or not veto.
He has shown his weakness and his inability to direct Congress. Heaven help the taxpayers.
Posted by: MayBee | March 11, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Obama is too embarrassed to sign that porked up, earmarked bill in public. Did he say there was going to be a signing or a shining?
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 11, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm
“This is utter lunacy.”
After Geithner’s weird appearance on Charlie Rose, and the public appearance with Obama in which one of them should have been sitting on the other’s lap, you’d THINK Der Leader would keep Geithner in the closet, along with His secret signing of the spending bill.
Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 11, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
He doesn’t want to get ‘bogged down’ fighting off $8,000,000,000.00 in new earmarks while he works to fight the deficit.
The amount of money we’ve saved by not fighting this bill so he can get on to the next bailout plan will probably be the topic at tonight’s Wednesday Night Austerity Party.
Who’s invited, I wonder.
Posted by: MayBee | March 11, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
“He can say all he wants about members of Congress putting their earmarks on their websites”
That’ll be sooo illuminating for those living in tents, in cars, under bridges, etc.
Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 11, 2009, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm
Obama has pork in the bill. His name was removed but not the pork. Before anyone tries to say other wise remember “this is last years bill” Why is anyone suprised? Obama has yet to keep his word. Oh, wait, he did keep his word on things concerning respect for life. He has none, by the way. I wonder how many O supporters will still be sooooo proud after they introduce another stimulus. The president and all his men/woman have nets to catch them when they go over the cliff. I doubt his supporters do.
Posted by: notafan | March 11, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
de Nies and Miller quote Der CHANGEling:
“a whole host of steps that have already been taken, and a number of steps that we intend to take in the future.”
He said “a whole host” of steps AND “a whole host” of POLICIES? And He’s dispatching Geithner, fresh from the secret-signing-statements caper on Cuba, to organize a “global” consensus??
This is madness, n’est-ce pas? Did somebody elect Geithner/Obama planetary emperor, while we were watching “House”?
Posted by: Pants on Fire | March 11, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
OH MY GOD!
Earmarks are now Ok, if someone deems them worthy. Well how hard will that be.
Wordsmithing the earmarks does not change the fact that it is unnecessary spending.
Another stimulus to follow the pork laden, special interest payoff first stimulus.
Far less than half of the first bill was not stimulus and now they claim that it isn’t enough?
They take us for fools and will collapse the country.
I agree, send them all home now. It is better to do nothing than to continue down this path.
Posted by: MNM | March 11, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
“Now Obama redefines and OK’s earmarks. His very brief election conversion on earmark reform was just that. Lies, all lies.”
Obama defines earmarks correctly. And they are not always bad. He never said he wanted to eliminate them – that was John McCain. (boy, obsessing over earmarks worked out well for him, huh?) He said he wanted to reform the process. And that’s what he outlined today.
As for a public signing – why? This isn’t his bill. It’s not based on anything he ran on or proposed. Presidents don’t publicly sign every bill – they publicly sign the ones they feel ownership over. I’m sure when his budget is passed by Congress – and there will be PLENTY in it for you conservatives to hate – he’ll have a public signing. Y’all think he should be ashamed of the stimulus package but there was a public signing for that one.
Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
ABC, why did you delete my post? Was is because I said Obama has pork in the bill. His name was removed but not the pork or the other comment about respecting life? Obama has yet to keep his word so him signing this bill shouldn’t suprise anybody. When will his supporters say ENOUGH? I say it now!!!
Posted by: notafan | March 11, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Obama defines earmarks correctly. And they are not always bad. He never said he wanted to eliminate them – that was John McCain. (boy, obsessing over earmarks worked out well for him, huh?) He said he wanted to reform the process. And that’s what he outlined today.
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Yes, he implied one thing and now has wordsmithed his way out of it. Like Clinton..”it depends on what the meaning of the word is is”
No one said he wasn’t clever.
Bad or good earmarks are unnecessary spending and there is no place for this now. Even those designated as worthy such as money for “community organizations” (ACORN) are corrupting as kickbacks and influence buying.
We cannot afford this now.
How many taxpayers for how many years for just to pay for this omnibus 8 billion in earmarks? Then he wants to raise taxes. NO NO NO, clean your own house first before you continue your assault on mine.
It is indefensible!
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
“Wordsmithing the earmarks does not change the fact that it is unnecessary spending.”
Please explain how every earmark is unnecessary spending.
Also, in 2005, when the GOP controlled both branches, there were 15,000 earmarks. This omnibus bill contains about 8,000. And they represent less than 2% of the total. Expect these numbers to drop even further during the Obama presidency.
Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Obama is a coward.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Please explain how every earmark is unnecessary spending.
Also, in 2005, when the GOP controlled both branches, there were 15,000 earmarks. This omnibus bill contains about 8,000. And they represent less than 2% of the total. Expect these numbers to drop even further during the Obama presidency.
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Challenging every post doesn’t change the fact it is unnecessary spending. If it was needed enough to be worthy, not just wanted it would have ended up going through committee and simply included as part of the routine spending.
Less than 2 % of the total only reflects how massive this Omnibus bill is, Overall the spending went up 8%, far exceeding the rate of inflation,
That 2% represents 8 billions dollars, how many taxpayers for how many years to pay for just this 2%/8 billion dollars in unnecessary spending, especially with the economy in such disarray.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm
This IS his bill, just give up that fight already. Its old. He’s signing it, that makes it his. He could veto it if he wanted. He doesn’t want to so he’ll sign it and blame Bush. He was elected to do a job and he better start. He was in the senate last year when this bill was being put together. He has pork in it. He is the president now not Bush so he needs to take responsibility. I am so tired of hearing how he inherited this problem. Did he really not know what he was getting into. If not, how come he was elected? Think the person running for president of the US should make it his business to know whats going on. What a laugh this Obama is.
Posted by: notafan | March 11, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Laurel and Hardy.
Posted by: Will Stanton | March 11, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Once again, a pre-hyped big policy announcement goes pfffft.
President Obama was scehduled to make an announcement about earmark reform, and he had nothing. A few suggestions for Congress that nobody’s agreed to, that’s it.
Posted by: MayBee | March 11, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Obama should feel like a total hypocrite every time he whines and blames Bush.
Bush is so bad BO has decided to continue most of his policies.
He better think of someone else to blame
since that whiny excuse is getting old fast–people groan whenever BO uses it.
Posted by: sammy | March 11, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
More broken promises and Obama lacks the courage to answer questions and explain why.
He seems more concerned about being called a socialist than being called a liar and hypocrite.
Posted by: riley | March 11, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
“If it was needed enough to be worthy, not just wanted it would have ended up going through committee and simply included as part of the routine spending.”
Just because it’s an earmark doesn’t mean it doesn’t go through committee/conference. They’re called earmarks because they are “earmarked” for specific projects as opposed to being included in the overall budget for the various cabinet departments. Some of these projects may be worthy…and some may be a total waste. Earmarks have been around since the early 19th century. Does the process need to be reformed? Yes, but earmarks are not, by definition, always unnecessary or unworthy. I’ll be most Americans have at some point in their life reaped the positive benefits of earmarked funding, many without even knowing the the project in question was funded via the earmark process.
Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Why is he so embarrassed since this bill belongs to Bush?
Maybe because Obama didn’t have the guts to keep his word and veto earmarks?
Maybe because he allowed billions in earmarks to be added to the original bill?
He’s a total fake. Pelosi is the president.
Posted by: bailey | March 11, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
“Maybe because Obama didn’t have the guts to keep his word and veto earmarks?”
Please provide a quote or quotes from Obama where he stated that he will veto any spending bill that includes any earmarks.
Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
won’t be signing it in public, probably scared to!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: counrtygirl_74 | March 11, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
“earmarks are ok”
Please provide a quote or quote where Obama stated that all earmarks are bad.
Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
So much for transparency.
Obama is a liar.
This man will serve one term.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
This off topic but.. Jake please could you ask Robert Gibbs about Chas Freeman Jr. Ask him if the fact that the President nor anybody in the administration did not stand up for Chas Freeman shows a failure of leadership. During the campign then canidate Obama said he does not do cowering.. but he just did with Mr Freeman.
Posted by: Tony | March 11, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Nice to see Obama is keeping that transparency pledge along with the no earmarks and no lobbyist pledges.
Posted by: bailey | March 11, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Just because it’s an earmark doesn’t mean it doesn’t go through committee/conference. They’re called earmarks because they are “earmarked” for specific projects as opposed to being included in the overall budget for the various cabinet departments. Some of these projects may be worthy…and some may be a total waste. Earmarks have been around since the early 19th century. Does the process need to be reformed? Yes, but earmarks are not, by definition, always unnecessary or unworthy. I’ll be most Americans have at some point in their life reaped the positive benefits of earmarked funding, many without even knowing the the project in question was funded via the earmark process.
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They are by definition unnecessary. You are clearly an apologist for this administration backtracking. Or you don’t care what he does, because your guy won.
We cannot afford this guy. The last stimulus bill, by their own CBO standards was only 1/3 stimulus and the rest pork.
Perhaps you define worthy and necessary as those earmarks intended to keep dems in power. We sure have plenty of those in the stimulus and the Omnibus bill. While republicans stuck theirs in the omnibus doesn’t make that OK either,
They both need to stop, but the democrats have the reins in congress and the WH.
They need to get over their megalomania, champagne and caviar and recognize 70+ percent of the public are watching their savings, hard earned retirement savings disappear while they have a party at taxpayer expense.
The bottom line is OBAMA LIED and even if you think he intentionally misled it is the same thing. There is nothing new in double speak by politicians. He is old news and is bringing his thuggish chicago politics and democrat political patronage game to washington.
It costs Chicago 11% sales tax, extremely high real estate taxes, taxes here, taxes there. But it does buy the dems power.
Get with it. He doesn’t care what he spends. He is securing power and will tax at will regardless of who it hurts. Did you think cap and trade wouldn’t hurt the little guy more than anyone. Perhaps people agree with Rahm in that there power (heating bills) are too low.
Obama is dangerous and needs to go before he causes more damage.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I like the public signings — how they have a whole series of pens..it’s a nice touch.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | March 11, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“earmarks are ok”
Please provide a quote or quote where Obama stated that all earmarks are bad.
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I am not going to search his remarks. In any event even without a specific quote there is no mistaking his deliberately leading the public to believe he would end earmarks.
He had an election conversion to compete with McCains position on ending earmarks.
So have a parade, he wordsmithed his was around this and like Clinton, “it depends on what the meaning of the word is is”
He is a liar who parses language to mislead for his own benefit.
Dirty politics at its best, and at this he is the best.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“won’t be signing it in public, probably scared to!!!!!!!!!”
Scared of what? Scared that people will know that there’s a $410B spending, of which 2% is allocated to earmarks? Scared that people will know he signed it? The media has spent the last 2 weeks talking about nothing but earmarks (wouldn’t it have been nice if they spent some time talking about the non-earmark spending in the bill?) The bill can’t become law until Obama signs it so it’s not like he can hide the fact that he signed it.
Again, presidents don’t publicly sign every freaking bill. They publicly sign bills in which they feel they have some stake in ownership. Yes, presidents ultimately own every bill they sign, but this omnibus spending bill, leftover business from last year, isn’t like the stimulus bill, which Obama asked for and did sign publicly. Y’all hated that one but he mustered up the bravery to publicly sign it.
Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm
Robert Gibbs is clearly incompetent as is most of Obama’s adminstration. That is what happens when the country votes for Mr. Popularity and the Brat Kidz.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Obama is a huge disappointment and I predict within 4 months, people will realize they have elected a man who’s promises were without merit (lies.) Not only has this man weakened our dollar, he has weakened our national security. We cannot blame George Bush for the actions of President Obama’s left hand. Transparancy has been buried and it is a very sad time in America when our government votes on a stimulus package without even reading it. Shame on Obama!
Posted by: Debbie | March 11, 2009, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Obama today:
They should have the ability to respond to the needs of their communities. But leadership requires setting an example, and the magnitude of the economic crisis we face requires responsibility on all our parts.”
“The future demands that we operate in a different way than we have in the past. So let there be no doubt: this piece of legislation must mark an end to the old way of doing business, and the beginning of a new era of responsibility and accountability that the American people have every right to expect and to demand.”
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How can anyone see that as anything but doublespeak?
For the record, this bill is nearly a $20 billion increase over Bush’s spending requests. Bush was going to veto it. The new way of doing business is not vetoing this bill, and increasing spending.
Posted by: MayBee | March 11, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
“Earmarks are now Ok, if someone deems them worthy.”
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Originally, we were assured only WORTHY homeowners were to receive mortgage bailout funds. When the official plan was revealed, worthy was off the table.
Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Obama has better things to do–it’s party night at the White House.
Posted by: ross | March 11, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
How do you get an earmark directed to your organization or project? With a grant, you have to apply for that. To get an earmark, do I just call up my congressperson and say ” hey, I need $3 million for this study we’re working on?
For example, my organization, The Sigmonde Cloud Research Organization has been studying cloud formation and how clouds affect climate warming and cooling. An important study affecting the planet.
We need a few million for a three year study of clouds in the southern France area and then a five year study of cloud formation in the area of Waikiki Beach in Hawaaii.
So, who do I see and who do I pay to get the earmark because the grant process is too complicated.?
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 11, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm
This “master of the universe” has no courage. Many earmarks can be defended but he doesn’t have the spine to do so. He can do a public thing on stem cells, but will sign the important funding bill in private, not that I will miss another teleprompter fueled..’bobble head doll” performance.
Posted by: ralph | March 11, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“Obama is dangerous and needs to go before he causes more damage.”
I assume you will be initiating impeachment proceedings in the House this afternoon.
Listen, I don’t think the ground the Obama walks on is hallowed. I don’t think he’s the most specialist, bestest leader in the history of the planet. He’s a very talented politician who happens to be a Democrat and who happens to support a lot of the things I believe in. I’m much more interested in stimulating the economy and fixing the banks and reforming healthcare and ending our dependence on fossil fuels and improving our education system and making sure the unemployed among us get the the benefits they need to keep them afloat during this crisis than I am in $7.7B in earmark funding in a $410B omnibus spending bill. If earmarks were such a problem, if the public were so up in arms about them, John McCain would have won in a landslide last fall. That didn’t happen. And earmarks didn’t cause this financial crisis, not by a longshot. My point is that y’all are making it sound like Obama’s position on earmarks was and is exactly the same as John McCain’s. It wasn’t and it isn’t. And earmarks aren’t always bad or unnecessary.
Posted by: OGLiberal | March 11, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“..If earmarks were such a problem, if the public were so up in arms about them,.”
It appears that people are more upset with Obama’s hypocrisy than with the earmarks themselves.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 11, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Signing the pork bill in private.
Maybe that will help hide his lack of integrity.
Posted by: sammy | March 11, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
When will people wake up and see that Obama is a not capable of this job?
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 1:31 pm 1:31 pm
WOW…talk about having No B@lls at all !!!!!
Make a public display of just about everything so far, but not this one.
Talk about “transparent!!!!! He wants NO part of having a public record or pictures & video of him openly breaking his earmarks campaign promise!
Good One ‘O’
Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
I’m much more interested in stimulating the economy and fixing the banks and reforming healthcare and ending our dependence on fossil fuels and improving our education system and making sure the unemployed among us get the the benefits they need to keep them afloat during this crisis
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Believe it or not, OGLiberal, I want a lot of the same things*. That is precisely why I’m so dismayed at the sheer enormity of funding flowing out of our government that doesn’t address those issues.
There’s only so much money.
*(ending dependence on fossil fuels is one thing not at the top of my list right now)
Posted by: MayBee | March 11, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
About 1% of the bill is earmarks. 1% – get a grip people. That’s hardly “pork-packed”. About 40% of them were inserted by Republicans. This includes people who are now yammering about earmarks – talk about hypocrisy! But, that’s never mattered to Republicans. Some earmarks were inserted by the Bush Administration, for crying out loud.
This is hardly a thing to be calling for armed insurrection about. Earmarks are not all bad – it’s actually transparent what the money’s being spent on. In fact, Ron Paul has called for MORE earmarking!
Posted by: Tungsten | March 11, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
“earmarks are ok”
Please provide a quote or quote where Obama stated that all earmarks are bad.
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OGLiberal,
His promise was to reform the earmark process. NOT to eliminate them.
He just broke that promise! He could easily have forced this one into he light of day from January 20th by telling the Congress to get to work on posting ALL the earmarks onine!
You want quotes…How about the statement directly from Obama’s website!
That GOOD ENOUGH?
Cut Pork Barrel Spending:
Obama introduced and passed bipartisan legislation that would require more disclosure and transparency for special-interest earmarks. Obama and Biden believe that spending that cannot withstand public scrutiny cannot be justified. Obama and Biden will slash earmarks to no greater than year 1994 levels and ensure all spending decisions are open to the public.
NOW…do not hurt yourself trying to figure out that he just threw that promise out the window!!!!
(oh, and dont try that whole “it’s last years business” line. That does not cut it!)
Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
If earmarks were such a problem, if the public were so up in arms about them, John McCain would have won in a landslide last fall.
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If Obama hadn’t misled/lied about his earmark position, maybe he would have.
If Obama had said in spite of the economic collapse/emergency I am not going to focus on that I am going to make sure to enact all my social programs and not worry about the “poll” that is the Dow, I am sure McCain would have won.
THE ECONOMY IS JOB ONE. EVERYTHING ELSE CAN COME LATER, IF AT ALL.
What they are doing now is in their own words “not letting a crisis go to waste” and in that vein are scaring the public into passing these mostly fake stimulus bills, this mega omnibus bill and so on.
The economy is job one. The dow is not a poll it represents years of hard earned savings for most of the public. Obama does not care. To him it is a poll. If he had told us this before the election I agree he would not have been elected.
OBAMA LIED THE ECONOMY DIED
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
About 1% of the bill is earmarks. 1% – get a grip people.
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It is 2% and that represents 8 BILLION DOLLARS.
That is a big deal. The fact that 8 billion is only 2% tells us how out of control spending is.
The spending in this bill has increased 8% over last That exceeds inflation in multiples.
How many taxpayers for how many years to pay for this 8 Billion in earmarks. Don’t raise my taxes to pay for this.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
“Can you please verify the FoxNews Carville story please”
Are you asking MSM that question?
That’s like asking a forger to tell you if your signature is real.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Carville is now the new head of the Democrat Party. lol
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 11, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
“Can you please verify the FoxNews Carville story please
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This isn’t limited to Fox, or Carville. It included pollster stan greenberg at a press conference the two requested to present focus group information.
This is not a fake. But Carville isn’t the only one. A Poll done in 2006 showed that more than half the democrats wanted Bush to fail.
LOOK IT UP IF YOU DON’T Believe , don’t immediately dismiss because the info isn’t approved for distribution by the Obama-media
Posted by: MNM | March 11, 2009, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
How many times does it have to be explained that this bill is OLD business? Seriously people, this is last year’s bill. Earmark reform is clearly on the table, but it will take shape in next year’s budget, when it can be part of the process from the beginning. We have bigger things to deal with than spending months wrangling about 1% of last year’s budget.
Obama’s critics on this are not being honest. Not surprising from the dead-enders frequenting blog threads, I guess. They just want something to yell about. The GOP hypocrisy on this is particularly galling – they inserted lots of earmarks, and then yelled about earmarks.
Posted by: Tungsten | March 11, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
“His promise was to reform the earmark process. NOT to eliminate them.
He just broke that promise! He could easily have forced this one into he light of day from January 20th by telling the Congress to get to work on posting ALL the earmarks onine!”
You mean the earmarks database on the OMB website
This database provides more information on earmarks in one place than has ever been available through the Federal Government. It is part of an effort to bring greater accountability and transparency to Federal spending. This step is also consistent with changes in the House Rules and Senate legislation during the 110th Congress, which requires more disclosure for earmarks.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
How many times does it have to be explained that this bill is OLD business? Seriously people, this is last year’s bill.
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Sorry NO. This bill funds this years spending. It did not pass last year because Bush would not sign it. Pelosi then forwarded temporary spending measures, to make sure the government did not shut down.
She deliberately held the bill for Obama to sign for upcoming spending this year.
They could have reduced spending and cut earmarks and Bush would have signed it but that does not serve Evita’s, I mean Pelosi’s agenda.
Democrats cannot have it both ways. Hold the bill back and then claim it is old business.
Twisty slimy excuses for their deliberate excess spending.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
” I’m much more interested in stimulating the economy and fixing the banks and reforming healthcare and ending our dependence on fossil fuels and improving our education system and making sure the unemployed among us get the the benefits they need to keep them afloat during this crisis than I am in $7.7B in earmark funding in a $410B omnibus spending bill. If earmarks were such a problem, if the public were so up in arms about them, John McCain would have won in a landslide last fall. That didn’t happen. And earmarks didn’t cause this financial crisis, not by a longshot. My point is that y’all are making it sound like Obama’s position on earmarks was and is exactly the same as John McCain’s. It wasn’t and it isn’t. And earmarks aren’t always bad or unnecessary.”
OG,
Im glad to know you dont care about this 7.7 B. It is nice to know that Chuckie Schummer was talking about you.
Your missing the point here completely. Obama ran on changing the way Washington works! REMEMBER that big sign we saw everywhere….”CHANGE”
Now, this was a perfect oportunity to do exactly what he promised the American People. To do EXACTLY what is written on HIS website!
He choked on it and he does not want any pictures or videos that the Republicans would use in campaign ads of him breaking that promise.
Now,
“I’m much more interested in stimulating the economy and fixing the banks and reforming healthcare and ending our dependence on fossil fuels and improving our education system and making sure the unemployed among us get the the benefits they need to keep them afloat during this crisis”
hmm….since the stimulator” already handled the last of your points, thats off the table for now.
Improving the education system starts with cutting some government spending…namely the Dept of Education!
It is not needed and has caused nothing but grief since Carter shoved it up the collective publics behind!
Ending our dependence on fossil fuels…
now thats a good one….care to elaborate on your plan, and when in the next 50 years it will be affordably in place all across our great country?
Reforming healthcare…Another good one, and your plan would be…what?
Now at east on the the first one we do agree a little. We do need to fix the banks. OBAMA NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT THAT IS THE TOP DOMESTIC PRIORITY!!! Healthcare, Eduacation, all these other issues are secondary right now! He needs to go kick his wonder boy, Geithner in the @ss! The American people & the markets NEED to see the administration’s PLAN to do this. Roght now, no one has any confidence that Geithner has a clue what he is doing.
If “Timmy” can’t get it done, kick him out and lets get some people who really understand the real world in there!
Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
Earmarks this time from Ron Paul, one of very few Republicans who aren’t total hypocrites about the process:
“Paul played a role in obtaining 22 earmarks worth $96.1 million, which led the Houston congressional delegation, according to a Houston Chronicle analysis of more than 8,500 congressionally mandated projects inserted into the bill. His earmarks included repair projects to the Galveston Seawall damaged by Hurricane Ike and the Gulf Intracoastal Waterway.”
Sounds like a fine use of money to me.
Posted by: Tungsten | March 11, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
[[[On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."
Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.
"We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.
The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don't want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."
Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"
The press followed Carville's orders, never reporting his or Greenberg's desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party's top strategists, that Bush should fail.]]]
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Rahm Emanual lived with Greenburg in DC during his time in congress.
Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
How ’bout that David Vitter, with about $250 million in earmarks? Didn’t stop him from yammering about all the earmarks in the bill. Typical republican hypocrite.
Frankly, this whole this is a giant waste of time. The government needs to be spending more money right now, not less.
Posted by: Tungsten | March 11, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
“A Poll done in 2006 showed that more than half the democrats wanted Bush to fail.”
51% of Democrats along with 35% Indies answered no when asked if they wanted Bush to succeed.
They were not asked if they wanted to see Bush fail.
The same poll shows Bush with an 88% unfav from Democrats and 61% unfav from indies.
The same poll also rambles on and on about important issues like Mel Gibson’s drunk driving.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm
“Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president”
I see Bill Sammon of FoxNews is desperately trying to save Rush’s fat behind.
Bill Sammon loves to just make things up (see the flags in the trash story among many others) so dollars to donuts says this is bs.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
It is clear that Obama is a disappointment to those who voted for him as well as those like me who did yet hoped that he would at least govern from the center.
I am certain that Obama will not have a second term an will be Carter 2.0.
We must reach out to those ignorant voters who made his election possible and help them become informed.
Obama’s campaign did nothing did nothing use youth and moochers to exploit his message of hopenchange. they were obviously too blinded by Kool aid to see that his laundry list of promises were being made out both sides of the mouth and any other open cavity.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Obama failing to milk a publicity opportunity? Now, you KNOW something’s wrong with this picture.
Posted by: Kat5 | March 11, 2009, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
“It is clear that Obama is a disappointment to those who voted for him as well as those like me who did yet hoped that he would at least govern from the center.”
ROFLMAO
His approval ratings are still quite high.
Gallup just announced that Congressional approval just hit 39%, its highest since 2005.
Democrats are primarily responsible for that but Congress approval rating has been improving with Indies as well.
2010 could end up being the death kneel for the GOP.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
“It is clear that Obama is a disappointment to those who voted for him as well as those like me who did yet hoped that he would at least govern from the center.”
You wish.
You need those polls like a fish needs water. I hope that works out for you.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
“ROFLMAO
“His approval ratings are still quite high. ”
Compared to what?
At this point in the Presidencies of Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama, the approval polls were:
Carter 70%, Reagan 57%, Bush1 65, Clinton 63, Bush2 65%, Obama 62%.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 11, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
hmmmm where are all those stock market hounds today.
Since the stock market is ticking up they are out to lunch.
Wait till it dips again. They will crawl back from under their rocks and try to link it to confidence in Obama again
freaks!!!
Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
I have voted for Democrats and Republicans.
If someone is doing a bad job, they are doing a bad job. Had McCain won and I was not satisfied with his performance I would say so.
That is the problem with these Obama fanatics, their allegiance is to a person, not America.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Well at least we knew it was going to pass.
Half the pork was GOP.
Vitter hahaha what a hypocrit. Laughable.
Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
“Wait till it dips again. ”
Hint: It’s been dipping for a while.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 11, 2009, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm
What I would prefer is for you to have a rational opinion (dissenting or not) your screen name say’s it all. BO has only been in office for 51 days. Never seen you saying Dubya must go. He is being argued to be the WORST president in history and YES the reason why we are in the mess we are in today.
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I am not certain why Jake allows personal attacks, he has removed the original attack by you on me.
Having said that, you are attempting to distract from the issue at hand.
Obama lied/misled about earmark reform. If you read Jake’s other post today you will find the same is true for hiring lobbyists.
Obama called the Dow “just a poll” demonstrating a complete lack of understanding in how people were losing years of hard earned savings. How flip to make such a remark. He has no idea what is going on.
Rehashing the last eight years, when clearly we disagree and will digress from the issue at hand is pointless.
Obama is President. The Dems have congress.
This is their baby now and even dems including Warren Buffet, and Newsweeks Howard Fineman are beginning to throw him overboard, or at least stop the kool-aid. Let us not forget to mention very liberal Chris Matthews concern over the earmarks and “why doesn’t he just not sign it”, meaning the omnibus bill. Clearly even Chris Matthews thought Obama was going to end earmarks, not wordsmith and continue the old way.
It is factually untrue to say it is only republicans who wonder what the heck is going on here.
He has had so many missteps that it is frightening. Economy aside, he can’t even handle a visit from a head of state, Great Britains Gordon Brown.
British media were aghast at this royal screw up.
He has repeatedly hired lobbyists.
He has sought to hire, and in some instances succeeded in hiring flagrant tax cheats,
He has suffered other vetting “errors” and had nominees withdraw for other reasons.
He needs to go back to pre-school and let the adults attack a job that he is in over his head at.
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | March 11, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
“Since the stock market is ticking up they are out to lunch.”
yeas, Citi shares are now $1.30 each! Hysterical. Ticking up indeed…
Posted by: Po' | March 11, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
“Vitter hahaha what a hypocrit. Laughable.”
Of course, he’s the same guy that was a major proponent of term limits except when they applied to him.
He the moralist who has a long time problem with prostitutes.
He is the embodiment of hypocrisy.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
hmmmm where are all those stock market hounds today.
Since the stock market is ticking up they are out to lunch.
Wait till it dips again. They will crawl back from under their rocks and try to link it to confidence in Obama again
freaks!!!
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LOL….The markets are gpoing to do this little jumping bean act until Obama gets Geithner to get his plan out into the public arena!
It is not rocket science Omentum. Yesterday they went up on some positive news from Citigroup.
Nothing significant is going to happen until Geithner gets his plan out…so be ready for a bumpy ride for a few more weeks i guess…
“Meanwhile, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner repeated his pledge to release new details about his plan to rid banks of their toxic assets in the coming weeks, saying he has moved deliberately to minimize risks for the taxpayer. Geithner, who was interviewed Tuesday by PBS’s Charlie Rose, has been heavily criticized for announcing a plan that lacked specifics, adding to the uncertainty on Wall Street.”
Obama has not helped by running around like the Flash and not keeping the focus on fixing the banks! Healthcare, Education, etc can wait until we get the financial system plan in place. There is no need to roll out a 300 to 500 billion dollar program every 5 days!
The people do not believe things are moving in the right direction, FOCUS on the problem. Geithner was only guy for the job, but he can’t even fill the offices he needs to get to work on the problem. I do hear some of those treasury positons are finally beginning to get filled
Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Obama said:
“And, you know, the stock market is sort of like a tracking poll in politics. It bobs up and down day to day, and if you spend all your time worrying about that, then you’re probably going to get the long-term strategy wrong.”
Yep, sounds like he is comparing the stock market to a poll.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 11, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
“So “just like a poll” does not equate to “like a tracking poll”"
For the purposes of spreading the new GOP talking point that Obama does not care about the stock market? No.
Obama is clear that long term thinking is what is needed.
But hey what do you care, you insisted the earmarks weren’t online when they are.
That’s what happens when you post talking points vs thinking for yourself.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Posted by: BO Needs to Go | Mar 11, 2009 2:35:31 PM
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Be it know that this is not “Dubya” the wonder one-trick-pony we are dealing with here.
This is someone who can multi-task.
I feel and you would (rationally-try it) agree that a mere 51 days is NOT enough time to judge the performance of a president. Case in point – Dubya was president for 8 EIGHT years and you are still giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Imagine if your boss came to you after 2 months and fired you because he said haven’t cleaned up the last guy’s mess who he fired two months earlier. How would you take that??? (Rational answer please)
Everybody is all in a hissy because THEY ARE OVERWHELMED from a president who hit the ground running. Regardless of what you say about this promises, he is president. Vote him out if you must.
But know that MY vote will cancel yours out.
Sorry … looks like you are stuck with Barack Hussein Obama “the radical” for 8 years ….. hahahaha
Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
“Obama is President. The Dems have congress.”
Gallup: Congressional approval ratings at now at 39% thanks to largely to Democrats’ but also Independents’ improving view of Congress.
2010 is gonna be fun.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
Obama is President. The Dems have congress.”
Gallup: Congressional approval ratings at now at 39% thanks to largely to Democrats’ but also Independents’ improving view of Congress.
2010 is gonna be fun.
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 11, 2009 2:58:35 PM
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Great observation!!!
Looks like a chance for the Independent Party to overtake the GOP. They have become irr-elephants.
GO DEMOCRATIC PARTY!!!!!
Posted by: Omentum | March 11, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
“So “just like a poll” does not equate to “like a tracking poll”"
For the purposes of spreading the new GOP talking point that Obama does not care about the stock market? No.
Obama is clear that long term thinking is what is needed.
But hey what do you care, you insisted the earmarks weren’t online when they are.
That’s what happens when you post talking points vs thinking for yourself.
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Ryan C,
“Cut Pork Barrel Spending:
Obama introduced and passed bipartisan legislation that would require more disclosure and transparency for special-interest earmarks. Obama and Biden believe that spending that cannot withstand public scrutiny cannot be justified. Obama and Biden will slash earmarks to no greater than year 1994 levels and ensure all spending decisions are open to the public”
Now, exactly what part of this process was followed?
Posted by: Mike_C | March 11, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
Four states have more than 10% unemployment based on January numbers.
California
South Carolina
Michigan
Rhode Island
The national average is just over 8%.
Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Four states have more than 10% unemployment based on January numbers.
California
South Carolina
Michigan
Rhode Island
The national average is just over 8%.
Let’s hope things trend differently very soon.
Posted by: mad | March 11, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
“Now, exactly what part of this process was followed?”
First the earmarks must be submitted in writing, not just slipped into bills.
Second they are listed on the earmarks database on the OMB website.
Unfortunately this bill is “old business” and Obama wants to move on.
I would have preferred that he veto it but as maybee and I discussed, its hard to remember the last time a President vetoed a budget from a Congress controlled by the same party.
We really have to see how the 2010 budget bill is approached (I think that begins to ramp up in June or July)
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
“Everybody is all in a hissy because they are overwhelmed from a president who hit the ground running.”
Yeah, running around like a chicken with its head cut off!
Posted by: marylou | March 11, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Sorry to see that the president’s vaunted ability to multitask does not extend to being able to use political capital to get an omnibus spending bill shorn of earmarks while touting his stimulus plan and presiding over health care and education forums. You ask me to believe the man can tackle multiple thorny, expensive issues simultaneously but that he can’t bother to persuade a sufficient number of Congressmen to get that bill sorted out properly, because it was “last year’s business”? The money will be spent THIS year, the economic facts on the ground have changed since last year, and his party controls both houses of Congress.
If the president had the political will, he could have gotten the bill he wanted, just as he did on the stimulus bill. So one must assume the bill he will quietly sign is the bill he wants to sign.
Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
I would have preferred that he veto it but as maybee and I discussed, its hard to remember the last time a President vetoed a budget from a Congress controlled by the same party.
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But Ryan, this is president HopeandChange. He is postpartisan, remember? And he is unique among all politicians because his motives are pure as Ivory soap. So why not break the mold here?
Posted by: NotPersuaded | March 11, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Ohhhh……your guy O’bamidable has already set up one excuse for the failure of his plan……
It’s the rest of the world’s fault…..for not following his example…
Stupidity Rules………
This guy is such an imposter
Posted by: J Moore | March 11, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Omentum, you wrote of the president, “This is someone who can multi-task.” To which I reply, yeah, when it suits him. He wants to multitask in terms of stimulus, education, health care, and a host of other issues, expanding the scope and expense of the federal government at every turn. Yet he does not want to multitask to solve the problems with the omnibus spending bill just past while doing those other things. Selective tap-dancing is not something to celebrate.
And of course you didn’t miss an opportunity to bash bush, opening with “Be it know that this is not “Dubya” the wonder one-trick-pony we are dealing with here.” Nope, we are not dealing with former President Bush, who multitasked just fine, thanks. And I think more folks will miss him than expected to by the time Obama leaves office. Love him or hate him, with President Bush you knew that what he said was what he meant and what you saw was what you got.
Posted by: moderate | March 11, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
“Love him or hate him, with President Bush you knew that what he said was what he meant and what you saw was what you got.”
You’re kidding right?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 11, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
Obama just used one of his “rarely used” signing statements to sign the Omnibus Bill..lol…Good thing he’s only going to do that “rarely”, huh?
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 11, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
Are you that ashamed if this bill? Come on Mr. President and stand by your campaing promises. Now how transparent is this and not having a public signing. Are you now aware of how your party has been screwing the public the last 2 years since they have been the majority.
Posted by: wak1 | March 11, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
So Much for the Shake Up and Change Washington! So Much For the Transparent Government!
Posted by: from Ohio | March 11, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
well of course he backtracks. thank god for the MSM, they cover and spin so well for him. and now more and more CEOS are coming out and speaking out that Obama is bad for our economy “we love him, but he is bad for the economy”. rush was right when he said that these people have an emotional investment in Obama, they love him but he is totally bad for our country.
Posted by: jaj | March 11, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
“We are doing a good job stimulating our economy here at home,” President Obama said.
Posted by: skinny lie | March 12, 2009, 7:15 am 7:15 am