President Obama’s UnHillary Health Care Summit

Something tells me there is a disconnect between what the public wants and what Congress will do. As usual I think Congress will do the wrong thing and not deliver.
While they holler Socialism, and cost, they forget that they get their salary and health care for life, I say take it from them.

Why Dow plunged 281 points on March 5, 2009 because Obama dismissed criticism that his administration is taking on too much at once and that now is not the time to tackle health care reform, because of the nation’s struggling economy.
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BS.
13 trillion GDP; 13 trillion consumer debt. Last time that Consumer Debt equaled GDP was 1929. Your are broke that is why the stock market has tanked.

“13 trillion GDP; 13 trillion consumer debt. Last time that Consumer Debt equaled GDP was 1929. Your are broke that is why the stock market has tanked.”
I have to admit, it is an interesting idea, but it could be coincidence.
I think it’s just as likely that the markets were so over-inflated during the housing bubble that they are still re-adjusting. That and Wall St. really wants the government to buy up all the toxic loans but they aren’t cooperating.

I have to admit, it is an interesting idea, but it could be coincidence.
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Interesting idea? We are in debt for all the money our economy produces in a year, but here is the kicker we do not get all that money. We are broke, we stopped spending, we can not borrow anymore money. It is not an idea it is fact.

I find it rude to use the Hillary Care that was created by people that were fighting against her efforts, such as nation of whiners, Foreclosure Phil Gramm, and John McCain.
Taking on Too Much – No
We are making up for decades of inaction – our health care is also in a crisis. any actions taken now will take years to implement.
just like the energy crisis that we ignored since the early 1970s
Do we always have to wait until it is a crisis or possibly too late – bank crisis?

General Secretary Obama:”This is the Oregon health care system on a national scale. A system were if you have a life threatening disease and they don’t see any reason you should live longer they WON’T PAY FOR THE TREATMENTS. ”
Uh, how is this any different from every defined benefit private insurance plan in existence currently? And how is this POSSIBLY worse than having absolutely no coverage, like tens of millions of Americans? Rationing already exists under every insurance plan I’ve belonged to. You should try to find a new boogie man.

I think something is wrong with Mr. Obama. He is so reckless – 40 millions here, 500 billions there, 60 billions to the left, 75 billions to the right, 575 million to this program, 900 billions to that programs.

anyone see the story about the teleprompter…how it gets in the way of live broadcasts and reporters because the President has to take it everywhere and use it in every speech… even Bush was smart enough to learn a speech from Notecards! As Rev Wright said, the chickens have come home to roost!

general secretary
Well put! You remember when W first became president all of the presidents staff busted out laughing when Bush stumbled over a word…these new people are afraid to fail but they have been put in a no win situation even Paul Krugman has a column on RCP that wonders what Geithner is up to!

general secretary
yea I guess thats exactly what that guy was saying I tried not to listen but I caught the jist of it…so needless to say theres something wrong with that picture!

jhw539
Knowitalls are just out of style these days so if you think that telepromter man is doing anything for you, you should be madest because he hasnt done what you think he would do

Obama has sold out on several issues. He needn’t look for my vote next time nor should the democratic party look for my money.

A nice, polite start means nothing for the long-term. The industry, Republicans and even moderate Dems will always balk at the cost ad the very premise Obama is pushing.

Obama needs to focus on the economy first. His social policies are throwing gasoline on the fire of this collapsing economy, while he smugly pushes his radical social agenda.
To forward this health care agenda he uses flagrantly lying talking points (perhaps this is one Jake should use for his ongoing talking point discredited).
Obama claims 1 family goes bankrupt every 30 seconds due to health care costs.
The study he used has been discredited over and over. If a family member died leading to a bankruptcy that was considered a “health event” and counted in this 30 second bankrupt measure. If someone who went bankrupt also had $1000 or more in medical bills outstanding they were counted, even if this was their smallest debt.
This was debunked in new studes that are more elegant than my explanation but the point is:
Obama is lying and scaring people to pass his agenda. He is fiddling while Rome burns.
He needs to focus on the economy and then, if we can afford health care for illegals we should have that discussion. NOT NOW

Skip:Whatever you might think of Obama’s plans he is certainly not ‘fiddling’ [doing nothing relevant]. He’s been incredibly busy ever since he got in office.
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I disagree as I wrote he is not dealing with the one item that is relevant right now, the economy.
His social policies are throwing gasoline on the fire of this collapsing economy, while he smugly pushes his radical social agenda.
Every time he makes a move, leading to generations of debt spending, cap and trade- leading to skyrocketing energy costs for everyone, increased welfare, increased taxes… THE MARKET TANKS.
Right now the job losses and loss of trillions in savings is priority one.
His stimulus bill, by the scoring of his own congressional budget office, will delay the recovery.
So don’t tell me it was relevant. It is one of his bonehead moves that caused a market dive.
The Market and Job losses speak for themselves.

I disagree as I wrote he is not dealing with the one item that is relevant right now, the economy.
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I agree. When tax cheat, miracle economist , Tim Geithner was testifying before congress he descended into a lecture on energy companies and global warming????
This is the guy Obama hired to deal with the economy and he too is distracted and seemingly angry over this personal agenda item.
They need to deal with the job at hand.
Is it any wonder that things have gotten worse not better since Obama election.

Skip:What are you talking about? The entire stimulus bill was meant to deal with the economy. You may not like it but it is far from just fiddling. I also think the markets were ridiculously over-inflated during the housing bubble and have to come down anyway. Blaming them on Obama is just convenient.
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As I wrote in my response, Obama’s own congressional budget office, hired by Nancy Pelosi, said the stimulus bill would likely delay the recovery.
They knew this before they passed it.
The same CBO claimed less than 1/3 of the bill was stimulus by that I mean jobs and infrastructure..which is how THEY defined stimulus.
This bill also focused on many items that we can argue over but they were not stimulative, by his own budget office.
There were social programs and payoffs to special interests that last a decade, but not stimulus.
The same congressional budget office scored the alternate plan the republicans presented and claimed it would create twice the jobs at half the cost.
The stimulus bill was about stimulating democrats long term viability. The economy, 1/3 of this bill was an afterthought.
Why do you think they raced to pass it before anyone, by their own admission, read it.

I find it rude to use the Hillary Care that was created by people that were fighting against her efforts, such as nation of whiners, Foreclosure Phil Gramm, and John McCain.
JimW,
Another person trying to rewite history!!!! Democrats were also against That healthcare plan.
The REAL question here is will the Obama Plan actually take any input from this so-called “summit”. The odds are the plan is already in the bag and this is nothing more than nice window dressing for everyone to enjoy!

“BO needs to go,”
You are not telling the truth, and I challenge you to produce the report that backs up the assertions you are making. The truth is that actual CBO reports have consistently stated that the vast majority of spending measures in the stimulus bill were far more conducive to economic growth than the tax cuts favored by Republicans.

Dear Klaus:You are not telling the truth, and I challenge you to produce the report that backs up the assertions you are making.
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YOU ARE SO WRONG. DEMS ALWAYS LIE. THE PROOF IS BELOW. THIS IS A NEWS ANALYSIS, NOT MINE!
Below is a link to the Wash. Times article. See for yourself. If link disappears you can search it by the title:
CBO: Obama stimulus harmful over long haul
Act fast Klaus, links disappear

Melanie,
I hope that you did not vote for Obama. I do not see why anyone did. The man’s entire track record showed nothing but a good speaker who had no real experience in governing. What did you expect. Obama is words. Not action. He is a puppet for Pelosi, Soros and Reid
The NY Post in Charles Gasparino column had this to say yesterday:
“Thanks to all the class warfare produced by his boss, I’m told, Geithner can’t find qualified people from Wall Street (the folks who know markets better than anyone else) to help solve the crisis. Instead, one saddened Obama supporter from Wall Street told me, “He’s looking at a combination of bureaucrats and academics for these jobs.”

“BO Needs to Go,”
I Googled the article in question and it too directly contradicts your claim that the stimulus bill will delay the recovery process. In fact, the article explicitly says that it will help in the short term. This is a direct quote from your article:
“The agency projected the Senate bill would produce between 1.4 percent and 4.1 percent higher growth in 2009 than if there was no action. For 2010, the plan would boost growth by 1.2 percent to 3.6 percent. ”
The concern is that, a decade from now, the rate of growth will be marginally smaller, but this will be years after we have already recovered. With that said, what the Times neglects to point out is that despite a marginally smaller rate of growth occurring in a decade, we will see a much greater aggregate output from the significant boost in short-term growth. And the CBO report also says that the investments in education and infrastructure may, in fact, mean higher economic growth in the long term, but their economic model is not capable of taking such factors into consideration.
Again, your own sources demonstrate that your statements are not grounded in fact. That’s pretty sad.

Obama is obviously not calming the markets. Quite the opposite is going on. I give Obama 6-12 months before he throws Geithner under the bus.
Gupta has withdrawn from consideration for Surgeon General.
Smart people stay far away from Obama.
Destroying private investment and individual wealth is sheer folly. A nation where half the population is on the dole and another 25% has lost everything won’t be talking about “privatizing” anything any time soon.
Taking the Dow Jones average down below 3,000 is a fine start– and on this Team Obama is succeeding mightily.

“I would have guessed that he [Klaus]was a seminar online shill for one of the radical left groups.”
Klaus is posting actual analysis and you guys are just quoting opinions from right-wing newspapers like the New York Post? Come on! I’m sure Fox News agrees with your assertions too.

ROFLMAO!
Right wingers keep citing their discredited media as proof!
You guys might as well just quote Rush as it carries the same weight.