Romer: Obama Adminstration Helped Country Survive “Biggest Macro-Economic Shock” in its History
ABC News’ Matthew Jaffe & Lisa Chinn report: A top adviser to President Obama today said the country had survived "the biggest macro-economic shock" in its history, but was still in far better position than during the Great Depression thanks to "a much better policy response" by the new administration than the nation had in the 1930s.
"We’ve faced what is arguably the biggest macro-economic shock we’ve probably ever had, right? And yet why are we where we are today? I think partly we’ve had a much better policy response already," said Christina Romer, chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, as she delivered an upbeat address this afternoon at Washington’s Brookings Institution.
While Romer did not rule out a second stimulus package if necessary, she did preach patience to see if the $787 billion plan has the desired effects.
"I feel we absolutely need to let this one work," she said. "It is just, the checks are just now going out the door, withholding tables are just now being changed. And so I feel very strongly, we need to let the medicine work for a while to see if it does the trick."
"A lot of the forecasters are still talking about an upturn in the second half of the year and so I think we should wait and see," she added. "There’s going to be monitoring of this stimulus package and this economy like we’ve never had before and we’re just going to have to watch it and see if we’re getting the kind of results we hope and feel we will."
Echoing the words of National Economic Council director Larry Summers, who has urged world leaders to boost global demand, Romer today called on other countries to follow suit with aggressive actions of their own to reverse the global recession.
"The more that countries throughout the world can move toward monetary and fiscal expansion, the better off we will all be," she said. "In this regard, the aggressive fiscal action in China and the reduction in interest rates in Europe and the UK announced last week were welcome news. They are paving the way for a worldwide end to this worldwide recession."
Such a message from the administration will likely be carried by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner as he heads to England this weekend for a G20 finance ministers meeting ahead of the much-anticipated full G20 summit in London next month.
Also this afternoon, fielding questions from the audience after her speech, Romer defended the administration’s ambitious decision to undertake healthcare reform at the same time as they wrestle with the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.
"A bit of me says maybe the middle of a crisis is the right time as we’re all focused on the economy, we know the problems that we face," she said. "Maybe this is the time we can all pull together and actually get it done."
But one thing Romer would not do today is be drawn out on any flaws in the stimulus plan…
"You want me to tell you what’s wrong with the fiscal stimulus package?" she responded incredulously to a questioner. "SO not going to do that!"
- Matthew Jaffe & Lisa Chinn

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Posted by: Sally J | March 9, 2009, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
Twenty percent down now that Obama is in office. Obama is not the “change we need.”
Obama campaigned on “trust me, I know it all.” Clearly, he knows nothing.
Obama and the Democrats lied. They want the idiots to believe that the so called “recovery plan” was intended to help the private economy recover. It was not–it was designed to grow and maintain the government at the expense of the private sector. Only in this sense can the plan “work.”
Obama is against capitalism and economic freedom. If let to his own devices he will damage the private sector as he is permitted to do with the help of Congress.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
I think if we need another stimulous package it should go to those who are unemployed trying to find work and those under-employed trying to find full time work. Those of us who still have a full time job should not get any more stimulous.
Posted by: eyeonyou | March 9, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
“still in far better position than during the Great Depression thanks to “a much better policy response” by the new administration than the nation had in the 1930s.”
Say what? What have they done?
“we need to let the medicine work for a while to see if it does the trick.”
If we’re in a far better position why do we need to see if “it does the trick”?
It could easily be argued that TARP 1 saved the country. Of course, Obama will create or save the economy.
Posted by: drjohn | March 9, 2009, 6:35 pm 6:35 pm
Obama is destroying our economy by attacking businesses. The stock market is responding and businesses are laying off workers to protect themselves from these current attacks and the promised future tax hikes. We are in for a very long four years. As long as Obama is in office and continues to peddle class-envy based socialism we will continue to see economic damage. Where is the fiscal responsibility he promised? Where is the transparency he promised? Obama has frightened businesses to the point that even the healthy ones are letting employees go. He needs to stop spending money like a drunken sailor if there is any hope of recovery during his term.
Posted by: James | March 9, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
“It could easily be argued that TARP 1 saved the country”
Would you argue that?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
Posted by: eyeonyou | Mar 9, 2009 6:35:48 PM
Speak for yourself. I didn’t qualify for anything. I just get to pay the FICA and the mortgages for those who won’t.
Posted by: drjohn | March 9, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Obama has to have the worst economic record of any incoming president. He is simply out of his league. His policies have not only failed to help but they have made matters worse.
Posted by: Lynn | March 9, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
GOP Policy ” Just say NO”
Posted by: Thinking | March 9, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
“Speak for yourself. I didn’t qualify for anything. I just get to pay the FICA and the mortgages for those who won’t.”
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Too bad you can’t short a president like you can a stock. If you could I would be making a killing off Obama.
Posted by: jake | March 9, 2009, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Obama = Carter II
America has seen the damage a leftist president can do in the past. We are in for a refresher course under Obama.
Posted by: oscar | March 9, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
“It could easily be argued that TARP 1 saved the country”
Would you argue that?”
Schumer said the world would end if we hadn’t done it. Nothing Obama’s done has had any possible effect. Thus that leaves TARP 1. Obama wants to shove through as much crap as possible before people catch on to the fact that most of it is unncessary.
The banks have to be stablized. Real estate values have to be stabilized.
Health care and cap and trade are junk issues with regard to the economy.
Posted by: drjohn | March 9, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
RCP Averages for Right/Wrong track
Jan 20th
22% Right Track
70% Wrong Track
Mar 9th
35% Right Track
56% Wrong Track.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Is is “loin girding” time yet? Is Obama’s mishandling of the economic situation the crisis that Joe Biden was speaking of during the campaign? I think Joe has nailed it.
Posted by: Curt | March 9, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Posted by: Ryan C | Mar 9, 2009 6:42:51 PM
A true Marxist. I hope one day, young man, that you actually have the pleasure of supporting yourself.
Posted by: drjohn | March 9, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
So we’ve blunted the charge of the biggest economic crises in our lifetime. . . with the prospect of massive (and yet -to-be deployed) spending.
Action hero Czars to the rescue!
Coming next month: Economists predict a less grim fourth quarter as the administration’s healthcare and union-only infrastructure initiatives take root.
Posted by: vinman | March 9, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
When will Obama let go of our collective loins. My loins hurt pretty bad already and it has only been two months. I don’t think any of us can take another 46 months of the same incompetence we have seen so far from Obama.
Posted by: Curt | March 9, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
“I hope one day, young man, that you actually have the pleasure of supporting yourself.”
I’ve known that for a long time Doc.
And in paying my own way I saw the benefit to helping others and the government’s beneficial role in that.
You’re “I’ve got mine” is more indicative of someone who achieved whatever success they have unethically.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
“A true Marxist. I hope one day, young man, that you actually have the pleasure of supporting yourself.”
Snide comments like this demonstrate that class warfare doesn’t necessarily start from the bottom up.
Posted by: Skip | March 9, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
“Snide comments like this demonstrate that class warfare doesn’t necessarily start from the bottom up.”
The whole right wing attack on ACORN demonstrates that.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Obama will fail the people. In 2012 he will assuredly be relieved of his command as POTUS. Unemployment is in the double digits in outlying bucolic America,commodities are scarce, food prices are increasing, and the global recession is going to drive inflation in the near future thanks to increasing government debt. Obama made over $4 Million dollars last year and brought his own chef to the White House, he should collect those nice comfortable paychecks and Michelle can keep being a cover girl. It will be over for them in 4 years.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Odd that Obama and his financial gurus like Romer never mention Carter or Reagan. The “Biggest Macro-Economic Shock” in History. lol
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
“In 2012 he will assuredly be relieved of his command as POTUS.”
You’re predicting a coup in 2012?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
There is little hope that the obamatrons will stock sipping Kool Aid and come to their senses and realize that President Obama and his Chicago hoodlums are creating a deficit unlike any ever seen.
He knows the consequences and cares nothing about our future.
He caters to his many far left liberal organizations such as Move on dot org and not the plight of the American people. It was laughable that he was so proud that his $800 billion pork package created 25 police officer jobs in Ohio. What a joke? 25? He needs to tack on some zeros to really
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
“He caters to his many far left liberal organizations such as Move on dot org and not the plight of the American people”
ROFLMAO!
Because right wingers care about the plight of anyone but themselves.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
I think, Obama Should also send stimulus packages to other countries in economic trubles. It would be the right thing to do.
Posted by: Joe | March 9, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
“Obama will fail the people. In 2012 he will assuredly be relieved of his command as POTUS. Unemployment is in the double digits in outlying bucolic America,commodities are scarce, food prices are increasing, and the global recession is going to drive inflation in the near future thanks to increasing government debt”
The vast majority of Americans, 84%, think the current economic conditions were inherited and not caused by President Barack Obama, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll to be released today.
Further, the majority of respondents don’t believe Obama will be viewed as responsible for the economy’s state until much later in his term. Asked at what point Obama will be “mostly responsible for the country’s economic conditions,” 25% said in one to two years, 18% said in two to three years, and 23% said in more than three years.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm
“Because right wingers care about the plight of anyone but themselves. ”
Right wingers give more to charity than liberal Democrats, the best indication they actually DO something for others and not just talk about what they do, which, as most Americans know, is what liberals do.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
The public will soon choke on the PR spin coming out of the White House…
Posted by: matt | March 9, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Christine Romer spent much of her career arguing that stimulus packages don’t work. Now that she’s working for Obama, she’s arguing the opposite.
Posted by: Janet | March 9, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
I think Mr. Obama is too much of a showmanship. I remembered when he was President-Elect, he gave us the impression that he was forming an economic team quickly, announcing left, right and center. But now we found out the under Geithner, there are 15 positions to be filled.
Posted by: young_voter | March 9, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
LOL: If you ever were at a loss to explain why republicans can’t lead….the answer is here…Join America instead of sitting on the sidelines sulking…
Posted by: cowgirl | March 9, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
I hope Geithner is taking a dvd player that Mr. Brown can play all those wonderful movies our President gave him. Better yet, keep him in his office, even if Ms. Romer has to sit on him, until he has a bank plan.
Posted by: david | March 9, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
“Right wingers give more to charity than liberal Democrats, the best indication they actually DO something for others and not just talk about what they do, which, as most Americans know, is what liberals do.”
Tithing to one’s church is not charity.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
“I hope Geithner is taking a dvd player that Mr. Brown can play all those wonderful movies our President gave him.”
This is the best the right wing has got?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm
Roemer:”A bit of me says maybe the middle of a crisis is the right time as we’re all focused on the economy, we know the problems that we face,” she said. “Maybe this is the time we can all pull together and actually get it done.”
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In other words, if her boss says it’s the right time, she isn’t going to volunteer to throw herself under his bus.
Posted by: MayBee | March 9, 2009, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Ms. Romer might want to explain Wall Street’s verdict on Mr. Obama’s policies.
Obama “inherited” a Dow Jones Industrial Average of 9,625 on the day he was elected, and 8,275 on the morning of his inauguration. Every single drop in that average since then is directly attributable to his policies and his increasingly perceived incompetence. Having all the instincts of a coward, his impulse is to blame all that is wrong on someone else. The public is increasingly ceasing to buy that sort of cowardice: While 16% of the electorate “strongly disapproved” of him on inauguration day, that figure has now doubled to 32% in barely six weeks.
When he tells congress that the cause of our economic woes are a failure to provide for green energy, failure to improve ecation, and failure to reform healthcare, everyone knows he’s lying.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
“This is the best the right wing has got?”
I believe the exquisite DVD’s were the best Mr. Obama had got. (What an utter disgrace to the nation–this is truly amateur hour, and the people are increasingly catching on to that depressing fact.)
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
“Obama “inherited” a Dow Jones Industrial Average of 9,625 on the day he was elected, and 8,275 on the morning of his inauguration..”
The right wing talking point that has little to do with reality.
But its droned incessantly by Hannity, Rush and FoxNoise.
And the gullible right wingers eat it up.
Much easier than contemplating the failure of their ideology.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
Obama, Obama Adminstration, and the Democratic Congress lied to the America people. The stock market went down because it show that the stimulus plan doesn’t work. How are they going to fix the problem? What is wrong with them? Obama does have ‘lack’ of experience and leadership.
Posted by: anonymous | March 9, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
“(What an utter disgrace to the nation–this is truly amateur hour, and the people are increasingly catching on to that depressing fact.)
Utter disgrace?
Were you in a coma during the Bush Embarrasment Tour of 2001 to 2009?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
“While 16% of the electorate “strongly disapproved” of him on inauguration day, that figure has now doubled to 32% in barely six weeks.”
Oh noes Republi-mussen’s outlier poll shows Obama’s approval is falling with….Republicans!
The rising negative is driven by Republicans, 58% of who Strongly Disapprove of Obama’s performance. Since Inauguration Day, Republican opposition has doubled.
Whatever will he do?
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
“Having all the instincts of a coward, his impulse is to blame all that is wrong on someone else.”
President Barack Obama says he will be held accountable for turning around the nation’s ailing economy, and making sure that federal funds used to rescue financial institutions and spur growth are well spent.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Of course, a recent Fordham study determined that Rasmussen was the most accurate polling organization in the 2008 election cycle (perhaps they were unaware that Rasmussen is a Republican).
Mr. Bush inherited an energized and ambitious Al Qaeda from Mr. Clinton, who declined every opportunity to do the organization harm. Mr. Bush took them on, defeated them on what they proclaimed was the central battlefield in their war against the West, and defeated them.
I note that the Obama-voting Democrat Jim Cramer has declared that Mr. Obama has already destroyed more wealth than any president in history. Must be a right-winger.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 8:20 pm 8:20 pm
“President Barack Obama says he will be held accountable for turning around the nation’s ailing economy, and making sure that federal funds used to rescue financial institutions and spur growth are well spent.”
Bravely spoken. Did he think he would not be held accountable for his failure to turn it around? Is there a knowledgeable person on this planet who thinks that the federal funds in the stimulus package are being well spent? Do we need yet another listing of the innumerable howlers in there?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
“Of course, a recent Fordham study determined that Rasmussen was the most accurate polling organization in the 2008 election cycle (perhaps they were unaware that Rasmussen is a Republican).”
Way to repeat the sales pitch!
Actually several polling organization got the GE right in addition to Rasmussen
And quite a few did better than Rasmussen in the primaries (though it was a rough year for many).
Of course one can measure election polls for accuracy because of voting.
With approval ratings you have look at the sum of several polling organizations and right now not a single one has disapproval above 30% except for Rasmussen which has him at 43%.
“I note that the Obama-voting Democrat Jim Cramer has declared that Mr. Obama has already destroyed more wealth than any president in history. Must be a right-winger.”
Yes Jim Cramer who said Bear Stearns was fine and that the subprime meltdown would have little to no effect on the economy.
Stop listening to the bald guy on TV for financial advice.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
“I think Mr. Obama is too much of a showmanship. I remembered when he was President-Elect, he gave us the impression that he was forming an economic team quickly, announcing left, right and center. But now we found out the under Geithner, there are 15 positions to be filled.”
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That is called poor leadership.
Obama is not a leader.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Obama “inherited” a Dow Jones Industrial Average of 9,625 on the day he was elected, and 8,275 on the morning of his inauguration. Every single drop in that average since then is directly attributable to his policies and his increasingly perceived incompetence.
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Here is a report from my broker!
“The US stock market has sffered in 2008 its worst calemdar year decline since 1931. No sector was spared.’
In 2008 the world’s welth declined by 80 trillion dollars!
What is happening now is a continuation of what has happened in 2008.
Every single drop can be contributed to the GOP and its obstructionist policies. There is absolutely nothing they have offered to help solve the problem, but has done everything it can to continue the slid.
Grow up!
Posted by: Thinking | March 9, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
“Bravely spoken. Did he think he would not be held accountable for his failure to turn it around?”
No but it shows leadership to claim responsibility beforehand.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
Mr. Obama is exactly like an employee who lies about his job resume, suddenly got hired and now is learning on the job.
Posted by: Politico | March 9, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
“Mr. Bush inherited an energized and ambitious Al Qaeda from Mr. Clinton, who declined every opportunity to do the organization harm.”
“Frankly, I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he’s done such great things about terrorism,” Richard Clarke told CBS’ “60 Minutes” in an interview Sunday night. “He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We’ll never know.”
“Mr. Bush took them on, defeated them on what they proclaimed was the central battlefield in their war against the West, and defeated them.”
Yes because Iraq was the main base for Al Queda before we invaded…hmmm wait a minute.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 8:28 pm 8:28 pm
Obama Adminstration Helped Country Survive “Biggest Macro-Economic Shock” in its History
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Well that would be very difficult to measure, so other than being upbeat I do not know of any other reason for the statement.
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I am behind Obama because he is trying, my hope is that he succeeds, and the GOP fails at its attempt to destroy this country for political gain, or an “I told you so”.
It seems absurd to me that the GOP would do thid for 30% of its base.
Posted by: Thinking | March 9, 2009, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Obama knows nothing other than giving speech after speech that spills out endless platitudes.
Yes with just a short period in office,he has shown that he does not have a handle on this.
The stock market is down 20%- a clear vote of no confidence in his budget and his extreme leftist polices.
In terms of foreign policy Obama has decided that there are moderates within the Taliban that the US can negotiate with. This approach is sure to compromise our position in Afghanistan and cause tension with our allies in the area.
America has problems that are once in a generation in scale. We need leadership and Obama was voted into office because he was perceived to be a strong leader by a majority of the naive voters.
Bush regardless of his politics was over his head in the office. The ones who voted for “Change”, thought Obama to be better.
Instead they are quickly finding that he like his predecessor Bush is less than creditable in his ability to lead with concrete polices that address the financial emergency before us and the wars in the Middle East.
Fortunately the executive branch alone does not run the country.They are checks and balances of power. In 2010 vote the DEMS out.
Take responsibility for your vote and convey to both Congress and Obama to get act their act together.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
“In terms of foreign policy Obama has decided that there are moderates within the Taliban that the US can negotiate with. This approach is sure to compromise our position in Afghanistan and cause tension with our allies in the area.”
its not our allies that are ticked but those running for office against our allies
Barack Obama’s call for “moderate” Taliban members to be brought in from the cold met with scepticism yesterday from leading Afghan opposition figures, who warned that co-opting fighters would fail as long as Hamid Karzai’s government appeared weak and corrupt.
Karzai, Afghanistan’s president, welcomed Obama’s comments as “good news”, saying they represented “approval of our previous stance, and we accept and praise it”.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
Mr. Ryan C. seems to take great comfort from public opinion polls (at least the ones he likes). He assiduously declines to address the exquisitely accurate daily poll of investors as reflected in the Dow and the S&P 500. On the day Mr. Obama was elected, investors valued American business, as reflected by those indices, at 9,625 (Dow). Since that day that valuation has declined by more than 30%. That decline has been caused 100% by investors’ assessment of Mr. Obama’s pronouncements and actions concerning his economic plans. Inasmuch as the Dow is a leading economic indicator, it is not premature to announce even at this early date that Mr. Obama has failed. The public opinion polls–a notoriously lagging indicator–will catch up in due course.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
“In 2010 vote the DEMS out.”
In 2010 the Republicans will be lucky not lose many more seats as long as Steele and the Republican leadership kiss Rush;s large bottom.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
“Mr. Ryan C. seems to take great comfort from public opinion polls (at least the ones he likes).”
If you can find another poll measuring who inherited the crisis, let’s see it.
That you cherry picked Rasmussen when there are quite a few approval polls says more about you than you think.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
I have to say is there nothing funnier than right wingers using Bush as a pejorative?
I guess the legacy project is over!
Posted by: Ryan C | March 9, 2009, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
At this point in the Presidencies of Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama, the approval polls were:………..
Carter 70%, Reagan 57%, Bush1 65, Clinton 63, Bush2 65%, Obama 62%.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Warren Buffett’s approval of Obama went down 5 points today.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
“That decline has been caused 100% by investors’ assessment of Mr. Obama’s pronouncements and actions concerning his economic plans.”
And that is 100% opinion. You can’t prove any of it.
Posted by: Skip | March 9, 2009, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
Warren Buffett’s approval of Geithner went down 12 points today.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 9:11 pm 9:11 pm
That decline has been caused 100% by investors’ assessment of Mr. Obama’s pronouncements and actions concerning his economic plans
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100%??? You got something to back that up with?
Wouldn’t have something to do with the Banks being insolvent?
Wouldn’t have anything to do with the rest of the world contracting its economy?
Wouldn’t have anything to do with pulling their money out and putting it under their mattress, or into Gold or metals where they will loose it in the end when that bubble pops?
Maybe, just maybe they want a hand out from government to get things going and they do not see enough.
Seems to me it is easier to give simple answers then it is to come to the correct conclusion.
Posted by: Thinking | March 9, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
It’s nice of Romer to try and prop up the market. It’s too little too late – from a person of next to no credibility.
The president is starting to feel the walls closing in.
Posted by: Plumber | March 9, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
Obama Malaise is eroding confidence in our economy. As Warren Buffett, (a key economic advisor to the Obama Central Committee) says -
“We’ve had muddled messages, and the American public does not know. They feel they don’t know what’s going on…
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 9:17 pm 9:17 pm
Those who continue to vote lock-step with Obama’s plans will feel the pains of fail at election time 2010.
What’s happening in Washington under this Obama administration will be the beginning of the end for Obama.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Democrat:dinner and a movie first Republican:it’s never consensual
Posted by: Overat | March 9, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
What’s happening in Washington under this Obama administration will be the beginning of the end for Obama.
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I am, 100% in agreement in 2016.
Posted by: Thinking | March 9, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Those who continue to vote lock-step with Obama’s plans will feel the pains of fail at election time 2010.
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I see you have put on your jackboots, and have gotten your GOP marching orders.
Posted by: Thinking | March 9, 2009, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Speaking of macro-economic shock, I was shocked to learn that the Obamas sent the Chief Usher of the White House to South Dakota to purchase out a swing set. Why not have the manufacturer send a representative to the White House instead? Imagine how much taxpayer expense was incurred for the purchase of this personal item.
Yeah, sure, I know he is the President but that is no excuse for sending his butler run this errand. I wonder if the butler took Air Force one.
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Oh sure, President Obama is responsible for the economic woes of the entire world and the United States.
He probably even caused the collapse of Iceland.
Try using your brain,not your brainwashed bias.
Posted by: Daryll Smith | March 9, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
“100%??? You got something to back that up with?”
Yes. Each day, each and every publicly-traded stock on the US exchanges reflects the value of that stock as determined by a willing buyer and a willing seller. If such buyers and sellers valued a share of stock in XYZ Company at, say, $100 on November 4, 2008, that value reflected everything they knew and believed about the future (not the past) of that company. If the buyer had thought it worth less than that, he would not have bought; if the seller had thought it worth more, he would not have sold.
Today, the buyers and sellers of XYX Company, taking into account everything they know and believe about its future (not its past) think it is worth $70 per share. This is not because of some new revelation about something that happened last year, or in the 1990′s. It is because of what they foresee about XYZ Company’s ability to earn money, and to distribute in the form of dividends, and the taxation of its growth and its dividends, in the future.
The aggregate assessment of these willing buyers and sellers is a resounding vote of no confidence in the aadministration of Mr. Obama. That lack of confidence is shared by, among many others, Messrs. Paul Krugman and Warren Buffet. They must be right-wingers.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
Obama will turn the US into another 3rd World cesspool. All of his policies are reflected in the stock market dropping-they all think they stink.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
Obama = Empty suit saying teleprompter talk through the “unknowns” pulling his strings. Can you say George Soros and company?
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
The aggregate assessment of these willing buyers and sellers is a resounding vote of no confidence in the aadministration of Mr. Obama.
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Again you got anything to back this statement up?
Just words no facts The world economy is shot to hell that is why the stocks are falling, even if the US was to recover now where the hell would the market be? These Compannies are international companies anymore.
aggregate assessment? There isn’t any it is fear.
Posted by: Thinking | March 9, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Mr. Ranger needs to refresh himself on English grammar. To suggest that Mr. Obama must surely not have assumed that he “would not” be held accountable for his failure to turn the economy around is not a use of the past tense, it is a conditional. In particular, it is the Second Conditional, used for impossible or improbable occurrences. Let me explain further, for those in the slow reading group:
Obviously Mr. Obama would never assume that, should his economic policies fail,
he would not be held responsible for that failure. Thus, contrary to the belief of Mr. Ryan C., it takes no courage at all for him to say that he will be held accountable.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
So when all the Obama fans around these parts post in lockstep singing the Chosen One’s praises, that’s just speaking their mind. But when anyone speaks ill of him, they are immediately greeted with a chorus of “that’s just right wing talking points,” as if lots of rational, concerned people cannot have similar responses to this mess. Maybe we should all agree that Democrats are going to agree with one another more than they are going to agree with Republicans and vice versa, and not attach sinister motives to either side.
Posted by: GetReal | March 9, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
“Again you got anything to back this statement up?”
Yes: the prices at which these voluntary exchanges have occurred have consistently declined since Obama was elected.
Qod Erat Demonstrandum.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
“aggregate assessment? There isn’t any it is fear.”
Precisely. Fear of what this unfortunate amateur will and will not do. Be very afraid.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
At this rate, the Dow will be at 0 in about 30 days. Bottom line, we’ll have no wealth left for Obama and his bunch of tax dodgers to redistribute.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
“The aggregate assessment of these willing buyers and sellers is a resounding vote of no confidence in the aadministration of Mr. Obama.”
It may be a vote of no confidence in the market in general but you can’t prove what their specific motives are.
Posted by: Skip | March 9, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Fascist Hyena, I think I love you! Next, you can teach the gang about subjunctives.
Posted by: moderate | March 9, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
The worst is yet to come, and unfortunately our the Obama administration is failing to target and solve the problem but rather they are trying to salvage the sufferers that are not likely to help.
The Dow reflects the fear, uncertainty, and a total lack of faith in any of the “solutions” proposed by congress and Obama who a president who seems fairly clueless as to what is going on within our own economy.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Yes there is tremendous uncertainty in the markets today, but this would be so with or without congress and Obama’s economic plans.
Posted by: Skip | March 9, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Bless you, Moderate. I sure hope you’re of the female persuasion.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | March 9, 2009, 10:23 pm 10:23 pm
“Only a simpleton would blame President Obama’s policies..”
Warren Buffett is a simpleton?
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
Sad that someone would have such a limited understanding of the current state of world economies and yet presume to blame all of the problems on a President who’s been in office for 2 months.
Try to expand your understanding of the current world economic situation beyond robotic partisan attacks.
The lack of understanding of what is going on in countries all over the world and the gross failure of the last 8 years in the world economy is shocking.
A shallow anaylsis reveals only your lack of knowledge and your practised bias.
Try to raise your vision and understanding.
Posted by: Daryll | March 9, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Please quit misquoting Warren Buffett out of context. It is cheap, wrong and he would not appreciate it.
Posted by: Daryll | March 9, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
“Warren Buffett is a simpleton?”
Although I would say yes, you bring up a good point Sigmound.
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Yes, it probably is Mr. Obama’s fault for the recent down turn in the markets.Its strange how words like accountability,inditement and investigation ,ensue these knee jerks.Subsequently invoked as a result in (J.D. byrider )lending institutions ,speculated share prices,inflated housing market,spurred by the very banks that loaned the money on the homes in hopes that the buyer WOULD default and relinquish their equities ,only to run the pasty scheme again later.After the parasite has attached itself to the organism and rendered it life less ,it moves on to the next one ,until eventually there are know more organisms or in this case payments coming in ,then begins the domino effect through these lenders.Shame Shame on these lenders for premeditately preying on these borrowers and Shame on those people who signed up for them knowing all too well, that the shoestring would not hold for ever.It is time for change, the insurance,oil/energy,health care,pharmaceutical,blahh blahh companies have had it WAY too good WAY too long .The years of too much is not enough and I can’t eat another bite is just right isn’t productive or healthy ,so put down the fork corporate America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Linus | March 9, 2009, 10:45 pm 10:45 pm
None of Obama solutions deal with the underlying problems of the economy:
1.The useless regulations within Sarbanes Oxley.
2.The regulations that pushed banks into bad loans.
3.A lack of confidence in the free market system.
Obama’s solutions have buried us in more debt, making the value of the dollar fall even further. Obama and his incompetent administration continue to bash the economy driving confidence out of the stock market. The Dow reflects this
Posted by: Peace Train | March 9, 2009, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
“Obama and his incompetent administration continue to bash the economy driving confidence out of the stock market. The Dow reflects this.”
And just the other day all the right-wingers were criticizing the administration’s numbers for the next two years for being too optimistic.
Posted by: Skip | March 9, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
“Please quit misquoting Warren Buffett out of context. It is cheap, wrong and he would not appreciate it.”
Buffett Quotes;………….. “The message has to be very, very clear as to what government will be doing,” Buffett said. “And I think we’ve had, and it’s the nature of the political process somewhat, but we’ve had muddled messages and the American public does not know. They feel they don’t know what’s going on, and their reaction then is to absolutely pull back.”
“I think the secret ballot’s pretty important in the country. You know, I’m against card check, to make a perfectly flat statement,”
Posted by: Sigmonde | March 9, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Regulations that pushed banks into bad loans?
Good one, there. Had me rolling on the floor with that.
Posted by: Flash Override | March 9, 2009, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
SAD BUT TRUE….learn the parable of the “POST TURTLE”…………
A midwestern farmer was driving home to his farm along a country road……he watched the long fence line along the side of the road….and then he saw a sight that caught his attention…….atop one of the fence posts was a turtle flailing its legs….stuck desperately atop the fence post. The farmer stopped to ponder the situation……..he came to the following conclusions:
1) The poor turtle did not get up on that HIGH fence post by himself;
2) Someone (or some group) had to put the turtle up there;
3) The poor turtle had no clue of what to do while up there and no idea about how to get down.
Learn the parable…..pray for the poor turtle.
Posted by: socialism101 | March 9, 2009, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
What possesses right-wingers to repeat this stupid turtle story?
How about the story of the greedy anti-socialism fanatic that cried wolf.
Posted by: Skip | March 9, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
LEARN THE PARABLE OF THE POST TURTLE: Election Day 11/4/2008…the day of HOPE…..the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 9625……a dangerous drop from the high during the previous administration…….but the POST TURTLE could save us all…..HE could do better……..and now less than two months after the POST TURTLE attained his lofty position….the DOW has sunk to almost 6500…..down over 3,000 points. THREE TRILLION in assets GONE since the POST TURTLE acquired his LOFTY POSITION…..and yet the purveyors of “change we can believe in” continue to worship the POST TURTLE. A record 31.8 million Americans receive food stamps at the latest count. That is an increase of 700,000 people in one month with the United States in recession. These are government figures. That’s up $10 billion from 2008. So we have 31.8 million Americans on food stamps. But the POST TURTLE handlers perservere………after all it was CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. The new government unemployment figure is out today, and it is 8.1%, over 600,000 jobs lost last month. “The nation’s unemployment rate bolted to 8.1 percent in February, the highest since late 1983, as cost-cutting employers slashed 651,000 jobs.” THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGING……….
Posted by: socialism101 | March 9, 2009, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
Only something like 25% of Americans believe the turtle story.
By far most Americans believe the story of the greedy Republicans who let the SEC deregulate the banking industry and did nothing about a huge housing bubble until it burst, ruining the economy.
Posted by: Skip | March 9, 2009, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
The blind messiah leading the blind of
America blindly into a blinding light
of hope and change…….and MSNBC et.
al. blindly following and greasing
the skids. Take a peek, America. We
don’t have to follow the lemmings’
march over the cliff. Blind ambition,
Chicago-style. That’s the dish being
served.
Posted by: Trajan | March 9, 2009, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
Christina Romer is SUCH an inane tool. Orwell just did another roll-over in the grave. As did poor FDR.
Posted by: Kat5 | March 10, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Yes, and because of Present Obama’s occupation of the White House no big meteors have hit us, either.
What a crock.
Posted by: RR GOP | March 10, 2009, 2:58 am 2:58 am
Skip,
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By far most Americans believe the story of the greedy Republicans who let the SEC deregulate the banking industry and did nothing about a huge housing bubble until it burst, ruining the economy.
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I believe that Paulson, Cox and Bush need to go to jail — right after we get our money back!
Posted by: Common Sense | March 10, 2009, 4:11 am 4:11 am
No more republican economic terrorism!
Buffet’s advice to the GOP: “I think the Republicans have an obligation to regard this as an economic war and realize you need one leader…”
Posted by: Common Sense | March 10, 2009, 4:34 am 4:34 am
Yes – Oh Avuncular One – we need one leader and only one Oracle (of Omaha). We also need GE to bounce back and for Berk. A’s and B’s to double in value. Lady Liberty needs a new pair of shoes (not of Chinese Origins)…The US Navy needs better defensive fire hoses…
This oracle was telling everyone to buy stock at high valuations..I’m not so sure he knows what’s going on..or he was just misleading the public.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | March 10, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am
It’s not all that hard to understand folks… So…You own the nicest home in the neighborhood, by far. Your going away for 8 years and your conservative friend, oh lets call him W, moves in with all his conservative GOP frat brothers. 8 years go by and when you come back home to take possession of what was the finest home in the neighborhood, you find that W and his GOP frat brothers have given anything of value to the wealthy neighbors across the street for a few cases of lone star beer. All the doors have been ripped of the hinges so there was no privacy in the home. The plumbing doesn’t work because they did no maintenance, so now they just crap on the floors. They kicked holes in all the walls never took out the trash and let all your wonderful landscaping die.
Now as you dig in and start fixing the damage they did to your home, they stand out in the street and proclaim loudly to anyone who will listen to them that…”You are screwing this house up and that’s not how you fix things!”
And W’s GOP frat brothers just can’t believe the only ones listening are the frat brothers! Everyone else is wishing you well and knows that you will eventually get your home back in order because you’ve done it before. Amazing huh?
Great quote: “I didn’t say that most conservatives are ignorant morons, what I said was, most ignorant morons are conservatives.”
If a person is not capable of articulating a thought or understanding someone else’s thoughts, it’s just easier to say,” Ditto!”
Posted by: mike | March 10, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Most experts on the economy realize that the government cannot control it, but it certainly takes credit for it when its good, or passes it off to the previous administration when its bad. It’s like a broken record. If people used a bit of logic, they would realize that our economy dwarfs the ability of our government to effect it. So when it grows or shrinks, it’s easy to play it like a political football however one wants.
The real answer is that the economic engine is far more reactive to the prospects of the future and the mind of the consumer, both of which are information influences. Stimulus in it’s self does very little to spur the economy, however the thought of stimulus has a far bigger impact. Its the thought and prospect of the banking industry surviving that will spur the economy, not government money pouring into the system.
Once you come to this realization, you’ll look upon the silly proclamations of politicians with some perspective.
Posted by: KR | March 10, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am
Mike, that is one of the most disturbed, presumptuous, logic anemic analogies I’ve seen. Then at the end you call people ignorant morons. That’s rich.
Posted by: KR | March 10, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
Klaus then said he almost could not believe how much the Americans trust the government and how much they mistrust the free market.
Czech President Vaclav Klaus, who lived for 48 years in communist Czech Republic, urged his U.S. counterpart Barack Obama not to endanger the market economy with measures against the financial crisis.
He also expressed surprise at the fact that Obama’s draft budget for 2010 reckons with twice higher expenditures than revenues.
Klaus also rejected the opinion saying that the current economic crisis was caused by a market failure. Politicians and not the market are to blame for it, he pointed out.
Posted by: KR | March 10, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am
RCP Averages for Right/Wrong track
Jan 20th
22% Right Track
70% Wrong Track
Mar 9th
35% Right Track
56% Wrong Track.
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Ryan C,
GALLUP #s
State of the nation – DISSATISFIED – 77%
Economic Conditions – POOR – 63%
Economic Outlook – GETTING WORSE – 78%
Those numbers are virtually unchanged since Jan 20.
Obama is perosnally popular, but has not done SQUAT to inspire the people or get people believing in his policies!
Posted by: Mike_C | March 10, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
“Those numbers are virtually unchanged since Jan 20.”
PRINCETON, NJ — Americans’ satisfaction with the state of the nation remains low — at an average of 21% for the past week, including 20% in the most recent data, from March 1-3. But this measure has shown a slight but steady improvement from 14% in early February.
And
Gallup’s attitudinal economic measures show little if any improvement since President Obama signed historic fiscal stimulus legislation on Feb. 17. The Consumer Mood and Consumer Spending measures declined slightly last week, while the Net New Hiring and Standard of Living measures improved slightly; Financial Worry was unchanged.
Posted by: Ryan C | March 10, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm