The Note, 3/11/09: Breathing Room — A Bounce, and a Chance for New Messaging from Obama

Guess “Porky” Obama is sealing his coffin with this — no second term will happen.
WE DON’T LIKE HIS VERSION OF ‘CHANGE’

From THIS spending bill:
1) Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va. — $122,804,900
2) Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala. — $114,484,250
3) Sen. Kit Bond, R-Mo. — $85,691,491
4) Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. — $76,899,425
5) Sen. Thad Cochran, R-Miss. — $75,908,475
6) Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska — $74,000,750
7) Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa — $66,860,000
8) Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla. — $53,133,500
9) Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. — $51,186,000
10) Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii — $46,380,205

Try sticking to one topic at a time, your all over the place. This article has a least 10 or more different subjects in it, stay focused.

MVP:
I don’t see anyone holding a gun to Porky’s head making his SIGN THE LEGISLATION!!!

How much of a bribe are the cattle ranchers paying Interior Secretary Salazar to endorse Bush’s plan to take Idaho, Wyoming and Montana (Yellowstone) wolves off the endangered list so they can be gunned down from planes?
Obama was going to reverse this stupid Bush administration plan.

Jason:
Correct. This article has no focus other than to slam Obama.
Klein, submit your resume to Fox News.

I’m going to make BACON and eggs this morning.

Nice headline on the front page. “Pork-laden.” Carrying water for the GOP today?

It’s last year’s business on TOMORROW’S spending.

The bounce means the business networks can stop cooking up an “Obama bear market” and start chatting up the “Obama bounce.” It is proof that the Obama economic fix is working.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Doesn’t matter what the party breakdown is for earmarks/pork…….if you run on a platform promising not to do business as usual (ending earmarks and pork, among other things) then you simply veto this bill. Your party is in charge, have them keep funding the government at last year’s levels. Win/Win for you and the country!!!!

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Anybody who ever believed that there would not longer be any earmarks or pork is a fool.

political–buzz
Perfect example of a partisan. I read you article??? Using Citigroup as the key example that Obama is changing the economy around, come on! Citigroups January and February profit have nothing to do with Obama’s Policies. Do you know the date he becam president? Any economist will tell you it will takes month’s for a change in policy to have a measurable effect.
If the people of this country want change, then vote out 80-90% of congress! Vote out members of both parties, especially the leadership. They are only concerned about keeping power or getting it back.

He is an old politician in a new suit.
The joke is on you America.

Last years business!!!! What a cop out. You are this years president Mr. Obama, you don’t have to approve this pork laden spending bill. All of these Congressman who added crap to this bill should be voted out when they are up for re-election.

What if we stoped for a second and asked ourselves where does the money come from? I do not think it is ALL Obama and pork. Maybe as concerned slaves we should ask for some of this money. I would like a check to payoff my student loans and debt perhaps.

mmonroeliveson:
Please support your statement.
List the accomplishments and mistakes of the Bush administration during his eight years and the accomplishments and mistakes of the Obama administration during his 51 days.
Please, take your time.

So this is the change so many Americans voted for? This is not change, it’s more of the same, or wait, that’s what he said about McCain.

The prison at Gitmo is still open for business. We are implementing Bush’s timetable for pullout in Iraq, and buildup in Afghanistan. And the Democratic Congress is spending money like a drunken sailor. Chains you can believe in?

RedtheChef; Slaves have no say in what the massah do.

Pork is pork. If it’s really a new era then Obama should veto this oinker. No excuses. Time to draw a line in the sand.

“Aren’t senators and representatives elected to go to Washington primarily to represent their states? Isn’t it their primary mission to secure federal funding for state projects? Of course there will always be earmarks.”
Yeah. It’s kinda in their job descriptions.

Here’s an idea – why don’t all those opposed to this spending bill return their portion of the earmarks. Put their money back where their mouth is.

Redjalapeno; He’s spent, designated money to be spent, or projected spending over the next four years that equals Bush’s overspending over eight years. He’s financed the murder of unborn infants in Africa. He’s used the same doom and gloom and sense of urgency tactics to reform America. He is broadening welfare, thereby enslaving more people than ever before. He has lied repeatedly. A remarkable instance would be when he looked straight into the teleprompter and said the Omnibus contained no earmarks, then smiled, knowing full well the public was aware that he’d broken his promise of no more earmark spending. He changed his position on troop withdrawal from Iraq and has escalated the war in Afghanistan, a war that to date has been a joint effort enterprise by NATO forces. Now America is taking the lead. He reversed a presidential directive that allowed pharmaceutical companies to be held liable for adverse affects to their chemical concoctions experienced by consumers. That will feed a lot of lawyers, his breed. He signed equal pay for equal work which will also feed a lot of lawyers, his breed again. There’s more but I’m losing interest. Gotta move on. Chew on what I fed you. That should fill up your day.

mmonroeliveson:
You have provided nothing but the usual paranoid, right-wing, whinefest, followed by ‘I’m not playing ball anymore because I’m losing interest’ claim.
Substantial debate is beyond your grasp due to your ideology.
Financed the murders of infants in Africa? Are you saying that the financing of the murders of Iraqi infants, women and children are justifiable? Did you leave that part out on purpose to support your viewpoint.
Again – list the accomplishments and mistakes of the Bush administration during his eight years and the accomplishments and mistakes of the Obama administration during his 51 days.
So far you have demonstrated nothing other than a deep misunderstanding of the American governmental processes.
Chew on that.

How convenient for the Big Shots we are focusing on the faults and limitations of the New Guy, instead of on the actions of the establishment over the last decade. The more I read about this financial mess the more I can’t believe how blind with greed the banks, the pundits, the investors, the hedge fund managers, and the real estae brokers were. It’s astonishing. And now the market, the press, and the “experts” are whining that Obama hasn’t fixed the mess in 50 days? In my opinion, what we need are new Big Shots.

Obviously, I meant flipping the ggr.

Republicans really need to find something to whine about other than the deficit and spending. Since WWII republican presidents have presided over the largest increases deficit spending, while democrat presidents have mostly had even budgets or even surpluses in the case of Clinton. Obama’s first year is the exception to the rule when it comes to Dem deficits and is in response to a complete lack of care of the US economy and infrastructure that has fallen behind other developed nations. Not to mention the fact that if you correct earmark spending for actual number of senators and reps the spending of Dems and Repubs are basically even. The only reason Dems have more earmarks in the current omnibus is that they have more representatives.

What a big joke bo will turn out to be. He continually tells us “this is needed” but so far has not been able to tell us how it will work or why…he just thinks throwing money we don’t have at problems will solve the problem and he will have paid off all the votes he “bought”

“What a big joke bo will turn out to be. He continually tells us “this is needed” but so far has not been able to tell us how it will work or why…he just thinks throwing money we don’t have at problems will solve the problem and he will have paid off all the votes he “bought”"
Follow your own logic and tell us whose votes he bought and what money has been paid to them.

try the unions

Cry babies….we won…now you live with it like we did for eight years

Obama in ‘Freefall ? Hey, ‘Freefall’ isn’t so bad, but the bump at the bottom can be detrimental to health.
Feinstein (and Boxer) from the broken-economy state of Calif. ought to have voted FOR the Sessons amendment to protect American workers by extending E-Verify coverage for 5 years. Their 2 votes killed the amendment. and caused millions of Americans to join the unemployed. How can it be the Union/Democrat/American coalition fell apart and representatives of Americans are now captive to foreign lobbies ($$$$) and illegal aliens? These 2 anti-American senators just jumped off the cliff and are in ‘Freefall’. “Heads on a Stick” candidates headed for a severe bump.

I believe very much in our new president and his administration, he, they have more (huge)issues,problems, conditions etc. to manage than any other new Presidency/Administration has had to deal with in modern history. Not only is the scope larger than the per verbal 800 pound gorilla, independently any one of these “problems” could derail our country for years, accumulate a few together & we could be sitting in the middle of the Great Depression II.
Given that the shear size and nature of these problems tend to feed each other and are self effacing to the point that they evolve at an exponential speed, our new administration is up to managing these tasks, and the administration is correct in addressing multipul fronts concurrently, because of the aforementioned evoloution and spped these issues are moving.
That said, I also believe that our new president is missing an opportunity with singing the operating budget just forwarded by Congress. There ARE earmarks within this budget that should be “returned to sender” postage due. Granted, one mans “pork” is another mans “stimulus” these “earmarks” by and large do not pass the smell test with respect to carrying any multiplier effect within the economy.
Also granted, most of this budget IS for true operational requirements that pay for the day to day operations of our government, even 8000 “earmarks” combined that will represent 2%-4% of the total spending is a large number.
And really more to the point, this is a great opportunity for Mr. Obama to walk the talk, support your campaign promise of reviewing this budget line by line, eliminate programs that do not function, reset spending to fully support those that do and eliminate the “earmarks” that do not pass the same level of scrutiny the “Stimulus Bill – Recovery Act” underwent.
We”eve got your back Mr. President, please take a little time with this budget, singe an emergency spending stop gap to keep the government functioning, return the budget to Congress with the directive to scrub it, reinstate the line item veto via Executive order and you will walk the talk with increasing your political capitol exponentially while doing what our country desperately needs.

If you followed the election you would know that the young people with brains elected Obama

Feinstein “pay to play payback” 4) Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. — $76,899,425 in PORK for her buddies hidden in the Omnibus package Obama pre-approved.

Hey…I AM STILL WAITING FOR A DEFIMITION OF A CONSERVATIVE…that left us with a 13 trillion dollar deficit. Where are all the Obama bashers??????

BSKI
The Obama Bashers cant admit their President and Their Party was a Disaster for 8 Years, so they Bash Obama for EVERYTHING He does. It makes them feel Better Its called DENIAL! Blaming the President for things Bush did CRAZY!

Odermonger; Clinton did have a budget surplus during his last year in office, but over his eight years as president the national debt more than doubled from $2.3 trillion to $5.7 trillion. It almost doubled again under Bush, rising to over $10 trillion and if Obama’s spending continues it will double again during his administration. Obama has also expanded the federal budget by over $1 trillion. Whether the money is borrowed money or new printed money, the value of the dollar goes down every time money the government doesn’t have is spent. Down the road sometime, somehow the citizens and businesses of America will have to pay for the deficit spending of all past and present administrations. It’s an undeniable and unavoidable fact. There’s no such thing as a free ride.

Ya’ll just don’t wanna admit….your boy tricked you….lol….
You know…when you watch an infomercial…order…..and get junk…..
There’s a sucker born every day!!

The reason that Obama is getting “bashed” is because he said he would go line by line and remove pork before he signed any bill. So far he has not – what a liar!!! and he didn’t do anything while he was a member of the Senate.

Barry is a socialist, as are most of his followers. They are looking for a handout and thrilled that their sugar daddy now has the power to give them a new pair of shoes.
And actually, with the inmates running the asylum in congress, Barry’s followers might even get a new coat to go with them new shoes.
YEEEHHHAAA!!! I ain’t gonna have to pay ma rent no mo!

Monroe, we are paying NOW for bushs free ride…none of this would be necessary were it not for GWs profligate spending, no bid contracts to Haliburton, wasteful fraud, and a trumped up war..the next time you want an ex college cheerleader to be leader of the free world, let me schedule you a lobotomy…

BSKI; Young people do have brains and good ones to boot. Wisdom comes later. They elected Obama because they wanted to change the world, just as every generation has wanted to leave it’s mark. Obama, like every politician since the first one offered change. They elected him based purely on the idea of change without any idea of what changes they might want or get, well that and a lot of people voted by color code.

The main reason Obama is getting bashed for doing some of the excessive speding is this – the ecomony is in the toilet and he is telling Americans that they will have to tighten their belts some more. Why not lead by example? Being president does not mean you have the right to squander the money and trust of the American people. Remember that 48% did not vote for him.

Of course a lot of people also voted for Obama because McCain was so clearly caught blindsided by the economic meltdown and definitely not up for the job with clueless remarks like “the fundamentals of the economy are sound”. Not to mention that Sarah Palin was a clueless, faux-populist nitwit who scared the bejeezus out of decent folks.

redjalapeno — agreed.
This article has no other focus than to slam President Obama.
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The language used [PORKKKKKKKK]
…the insinuation that the Dow decline is directly linked to the new President[Dumb]
…all the same old horsesh*t about too much spending in the stimulus — Despite passing by both House and Senate AND an article yesterday on this very ABC site — economists forecasting the stimulus to not be enough.
Perhaps Klein is apparently misinformed–Odd for a journalist. One might deduct that he’s influenced to write fiction that fires up the base Republicans — successful, indeed.
Irresponsible journalism, Klein.

mmonroeliveson
“Young people do have brains and good ones to boot.
I beg to differ with that one a little bit. The young throughout history have often been the easily maniplulated idiots.
They are directly responsible for America’s horrific defeat in Vietnam, and for the preventable murder of MILLIONS of south vietnamese by the communist north, after America left prematurely due to their viscous anti-war movement.
The youth enthusiastically followed Hitler, that obviously didn’t turn out too well.
The youth adored Stalin, and 30,000,000 innocent people lost their lives by the time that communist was finished.
And most recently, the youth showed their incredibly stupid leader-picking skills in Cuba, when they elected a young, charismatic speaker who promised them all free health care, free college educations and promised change.
With the election of BO, the youth have totally proven that they should not be allowed to drive a car, let alone vote.

gus amaral – I agree completely. Rick Klein’s commentary and language has been consistently biased against the President for weeks now. Everyone who agrees ought to make their feelings known to ABC News – what kind of “senior analyst” can get away with this kind of biased, obstructionist crap? Let ABC know how you feel and that you are going to hold them responsible. I sure did!

Some liberal imposter is posing as me and saying racist things. Very funny.
I am completely aware that there are just as many lazy white people looking for a handout as there are blacks. Freeloaders of all colors are still doing backflips with the election of BO.

Obammy-lammy has promised his constituents a fried chicken in every pot, a watermelon on every back porch, a cadillic pimpmobile in every driveway, and OUR TAX DOLLERS in their mailboxes every week!

Will the liberal imposter posing as me quit saying such racist things?
Barry is the messiah of the lazy people, both black and white.

Lazy ghetto welfare queens be drivin around in cadillacs again thanks to Obammy Lammy ding dong! Praise sweet jeebus, it’s a jubilee of free money in de ghetto!

Last night it dawned on me: our economy isn’t looking so much like 1930 as much as it does 1974. Hey! I remember that!
My family was middleclass, parents college educated, we lived in a house they paid $30,000 for, in a suburban cul de sac, we had one car, my mother didn’t work till the kids had grown, we got three grainy channels on the TeeVee, went to a movie twice a year, if that, and the only “vactions” we took were to grandma’s. But, we thought we were living pretty good, cause, after all, the parents had grown up during the Great Depression.

Kelly Pritkin; Can you blame them for asking as long as Washington keeps giving?

South_Texan – how did Obama “sieze power” exactly?
Like him or not, he did win the election fair and square.
How do you expect to be taken seriously when you say such stupid things?

mmonroeliveson
Suddenly silky disapeared and all of these racist posts began appearing. It sounds fishy to me. Does it to you ?
Silky is paid to blindly blog in favor of BO. His absence at any time on these blogs is ALWAYS cause for concern.

South_Texan is going to get a lesson in “seizing power” by La Familia before he knows it. Then he’ll hold things in proper perspective.

Nevermind, Silky the imposter is back!
Happy days are here again.

Yep. South Texan has become a first responder…when he quits posting..we will know he went down at the Alamo..

Jill, while I think your imposter is funny, and probably not too far off the mark, posing as others isn’t my style.

South Texan
Keep fighting the good fight. These obamabots will stop at nothing to protect BO the socialist from being exposed for what he is- a racist, American bashing, fraud who got elected with the unconditional support of the liberal mainstream media.

the blacks are getting ready to have a big ol’ welfare party now that their jig a boo in chief is handing out stimulus checks like candy to anybody who doesn’t wanna work anymore.
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It must be killing the racists that white, uneducated Americans are the minority.

Sorry, can’t always check this on a regular basis, too busy working and earning money. (Something our liberal friends have forgotten how to do.) But the real point of this discussion should be how we best restore economic stability without continuing on the path of excessive government and excessive government spending. That has never worked, and is only creating a longer window in which a recovery could be possible.

the citizens of the Confederate States of America are ANGRY this morning….

South Texan…that is a theory that has yet to be proven…you can’t even rely on the good ole trickle down theory, because businesses and corp. are closing their doors daily..so how do you see the “do nothing” theory actually working???

Jill – your theory is wrong. I suspect that you’re a racist drama queen trying to have things both ways by posting nasty, racist slurs then trying to deny them by blaming them on alleged “Obamabots”. It’s really a pathetic and transparent cry for help. You really need to spend less time on the internet and more time with your therapast.

counrtygirl_74 – so bascially all you Obama-hating obstructionist have to offer is whining and namecalling? That’s what I thought. No wonder you clowns lost the election – you have nothing left to offer anybody. No new ideas. No solutions. Just the same old Republican BS. Good luck with that.

South Texan
You are totally correct when you say that our efforts should be focused on the economy. However, America is no longer being battled over democratic vs. republican principles. The war has now shifted to socialism vs. capitalism.
Think about it. JFK’s speech when he said “ask not what your country can do for you….” has turned into BO saying that he “just wants to spread it around a bit”.
How many people do you think attended most JFK’s speeches weeping over joy that they were not going to have to pay their mortgages/rent/electric bills anymore?
Liberals refuse to accept that America is the greatest country the world has ever seen with the quality of life it has granted its citizens. That is why they are fighting like crazy people to convert us into European socialists.

Never mind Silky,(although you should try reading your own posts sometime…quite sad) it’s your nap time.
Y’all enjoy…back to work for now.

“Never mind Silky,(although you should try reading your own posts sometime…quite sad) it’s your nap time.”
So, I didn’t threaten you and instead of admitting what an idiot you are, you’re just going to let the posts speak for themselves. Good show.

Liberals refuse to accept that America is the greatest country the world has ever seen with the quality of life it has granted its citizens. That is why they are fighting like crazy people to convert us into European socialists.
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Jill, you must be Native American.

I haven’t shut down the internet just yet. It was the “la familia” reference Silky. This close to the border, that has a distinct and threatening connotation.

“I haven’t shut down the internet just yet. It was the “la familia” reference Silky. This close to the border, that has a distinct and threatening connotation.”
From the abcnews.com politics forum? Are you kidding me?

Regardless of political affiliation, the posters on here are all posturing to prove their brain is bigger than someone else’s. Thing is, your “big ideas” aren’t doing you any good on ABCNews.com. If you were really that concerned, you’d be doing something about it.

Way to rewite history, South_Texan.

History has (a somewhat cruel) way of repeating its’ self when we do not learn from past lessons.
In fact, as HISTORY records the events of the Great Depression, it started with the slowing down(economic adjusting) of the “roaring twenties”. Through the mid thirties our economy was starting to stabilize from the adjustments of the excesses of the previous decade and our government started to deregulate markets to “grow the economy” and in doing so set the platform for the Hoover administration to continue deregulation and “allow the markets to regulate themselves” very much like the past 8 years.
Once we collectively realized that the genie was out of the bottle and “something – anything” had to be done to head off an economic meltdown the Hoover administration froze all spending, to the previous year(s) levels as the corrective measures needed to stop the downward cycle.
FDR DID inherit the economic conditions that completed there preset path into the Great Depression.
So, spending in the way of stimulus,recovery act, etc is the proper course of action so that we do not allow history repeat itself.
And as previously stated, “earmarks” – actually do have a similar effect as long as the spending carries the multiplier that will continue to recharge our economy.

Well, vote and write our representatives…which I recently did concerning a subsidy for businesses promoting the spread of Skeeball in the southeast.

This is funny.
The market is down and may fall like a brick before days end. Yet we have this headline about a “bounce”.
A message from my 401K “Bite me”. This isn’t a bounce it’s a vibration!
The markets and currency are based upon confidence in the future.
Barack, the Dems and even a few Rep’s have spent the last 18 months talking down the economy …. calling it the worst economy ever before it was even in a recession!
Now that there in charge they are calling a 300 point quiver after talking the market down 8,000 points a bounce!?
Take of the vote Obama sticker and write a news story.

How can you tell Obama is lying?
His lips are moving.
Has he found a cabinet appointment who has actually paid taxes yet?
SPEND, SPEND, SPEND from an ultra-radical liberal junior Senator from the capital of corruption, Chicago.
I hope the 0-bama supporters are thrilled!

Skeeball lobbyist turns to posting on political blogs to promote sport. Political comments just a cover for commercial interests. Blogs: the new marketing tool in these dire economic times.

No, 0-bama and his ENDLESS WELFARE is a disgrace to America.
SPEND, SPEND, SPEND PORK from a liberal
Where is the Change?
I hope everyone who voted for Obama is thrilled to death with their “tax credit”
Hope and Change. Yes We Can!
Obama should resign immediately and avoid further embarassment, like the disgraceful treatment of British PM Gordon Brown.
Honeymoon wearing thin…
Have a great day Obamabots!

John Hancock and sam adams-one in the same..must be ashamed of your own handle…and the voice of diaper wearers nationwide..give it a rest…

Silky–I would fully support your proposed Skeeball initiative.

PORK!
What happened to “no earmarks”
Obama lied, America cried
REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH AND SPECIAL INTERESTS ARE THE NAME OF 0-BAMA’s GAME
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dramatic, but dumb, Sam Adams.
The bill includes $12 billion for earmarks requested by lawmakers & the Bush White House — the spending measure regarded as “last year’s business” represents the balance of the final budget prepared by the Bush administration.

Obama’s approval rating today 37%…that says it all.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Skee ball (also spelled skeeball, ski-ball or skee-ball; sometimes called skee roll) is a common game found in arcades and one of the first redemption games. It is similar to bowling except it is played on an inclined lane and the player aims to get the ball to fall into a hole rather than knock down pins.
Like I don’t have more importannt things to do than googling skeeball. Damn you lobbyists!

Outta here…gonna go buy BBQ sauce while I still have $$ for all the porkulous being crammed down my throat!

O-bama non-supporter; He’d really look wierd with his head moving back and forth between the teleprompters but with his lips sitting still.

Conservative Gal..sounds like YOU are on wefare if someone is giving you pork, I have to buy mine….

Silky; Maybe through embryonic stem cell research we’ll someday find a cure for skeeball.

Listen up liberals…
Capitalism is the greatest economic sytstem man has ever created.
This whole notion that gov’t should be the centralized economic planner (socialism/communism) has been tried and failed all over the world.
Gov’t can’t pick the winners and losers, just like it can’t create wealth. Only the free market can do that.
Washington should act as a governing body to ensure laws are abided by, regulations are followed, and American citizens are kept safe. That’s it.Anything outside of that leads to major problems.
Just look what happened to the housing market when the socialist liberals tried to put a roof over everyone’s head, regardless of their inability to pay for that roof. Thank you Barney frank, harry reid, maxine waters, chuck schumer and jimmy carter with the community reinvestment act…
Bush’s first bailout was a terrible mistake (as most conservatives knew it would be). It did nothing to stimulate the credit market, and now no one seems to know where much of that $$$ went.
By Bush listening to the liberal idiots around him, he opened the flood gates for democrats in congress to act like children in a toy store with our $$$$.
Let these companies, banks, businesses fails so that we can start from the bottom.

“Silky; Maybe through embryonic stem cell research we’ll someday find a cure for skeeball.”
Put away the Haterade, monroe. Skeeball is not going anywhere. People need tickets for their out-dated stuffed animals, filthy cotton candy, and glow in the dark bracelets.

Silky; Yeah with that neat place to sit a beer down skeeball probably is here to stay.

Hey, don’t take skee ball away before i get mine!!!! I am always the last to know**!!####

Do you think the term porkulus will have any meaning to people 30 years into the future? Sorry. Things were getting kinda slow on this blog.

By the time barry O gets done with this country, it will be known as the United Socialist States of America, and silky will never have to work again!

I doubt the word porkulus will have any meaning 30 days from now… that’s the fate of most wingnut memes in the real world.

Dave – do you know what socialism even is? Call me when Obama starts confiscating private property and turns us into a top-down, command economy. Until then, I think you’re confusing “social democracy” – which is completely compatible with a free market and private property, and is successfully practiced by every industrialized nation (including our own) – with “socialism”.
This kind of hysterical hyberole is why nobody is taking you wingnuts seriously anymore. You’ve lost the plot completely and are like the boy who cried wolf – only you guys scream “socialism” at whatever you don’t like.
Typical Wingnut: “This coffee is bad – it must be SOCIALIST coffe!”
“My wife is cheating on me – she must be a SOCIALIST!”
“I missed my train – because of SOCIALISM!”
“I got a bad haircut – because Obama is a SOCIALIST!”
Can’t you clowns give your BS a rest for a minute and let the grown ups talk? Sheesh!

“By the time barry O gets done with this country, it will be known as the United Socialist States of America, and silky will never have to work again!”
Sign me up! Is that what Socialism is all about? Not working? Because I’m all for not ever working again. I like skiing, the beach, seeing live music, French, Asian and Latin cuisine, playing golf, traveling, hard drinking in New York City and casual sex. Is Socialism for me?

Typical Wingnut: “This coffee is bad – it must be SOCIALIST coffe!”
“My wife is cheating on me – she must be a SOCIALIST!”
“I missed my train – because of SOCIALISM!”
“I got a bad haircut – because Obama is a SOCIALIST!”
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May I add?…
How about: “I had a liberal socialist BM after my Chinese food?

Earmarking is a republican and a democratic problem. Both parties have a hand in pork barrel projects. However, 60% of the earmark money is from democratic senators and that leave 40% to the Republicans. I will inform myself as to who signed the thing. Saying that this is last year’s problem does not make sense when you are signing the bill this year. We are on a dangerous trajectory, spending money that the government does not have and has to come out of the taxpayers’ wallets. The only reason the markets rallied yesterday was because Citigroup announced that they were scaling back expenses to become more fiscally solid. That is something the Obama really should look at. As to the markets, currently we are almost at a loss of 100 points. One day does not mean his policies are a success. The Dow Jones isn’t even back to 7,000, for Pete’s sake!!!

Conserv,gal, if he fails …you fail..so it looks like you are going to be sitting around laughing at yourself..which is a sign of mental illness..

In my pants.. I will laugh the rest of the day on that one..heard of walking a mile in my shoes..but never walk a mile in my pants….

Dave,
you’re nuts.

Dave..problem with your argument.1776 vs. 2009..the constitution and bill of rights were a framework, did you put sides and a roof on your house??? or are you sitting there with a newspaper over your head to keep the rain off??? maybe i don’t want to know the answer..fact is..population wise..we were a very sparsley populated country at the time, and most people lived off the land and could satisfy their own needs.

Dave—The founding father’s built our country on conservative principles….
-Small, efficient gov’t
-Citizen self-reliance and accountability
-Large and powerful military
-Small taxes for everyone
Liberals today stand for everything opposite of what I just listed.
Very well said, but unfortunately there are too many lazy souls out here that probably have never even learned what this country was founded on. So far we are still the greatest nation in the world but we are on a slippery slope indeed.

Dave – the stock market is back up yesterday and today – by your screwball “logic” I guess that means Obama was right after all. LOL

Dave – FYI, the founding fathers were considered liberals in their own era. Basically all human progress comes from liberals. If we left things up to conservatives, we would all still be living in caves, wondering where all the mammoths went. LOL
Go Obama!

Superfred
Actually the market jumped on CITI’s announcment of profits yesterday, barry’s socialist agenda certainly had nothing to do with that.
What I do attribute to barry his the 35% loss the market has sustained post election (worst in the history of the market). I guess that makes me a screwball, right?
Would your denial of that make you an idiot?

“America became the most powerful, prosperous and generous nation in the history of the world, in a little more than 200 years, but I guess we should try and resemble France now.”
dave, you have a lot to learn about this country and, more importantly, the world.

“Don’t you ever wonder why your friends, family and co-workers all think you’re an a-hole?”
Oh, c’mon…they don’t give him that much credit. The just pat him on the back and encourage him.

Dave – nice logical inconstency there, pal. No wonder everybody here is laughing at you.
Seriously, are Conservatives the stupidest people on earth or what? All you do is rant and rave about nonsense all day long without ever letting the facts get in the way of your prejudices, urban myths and misconceptions about the world.
This is why the rest of us aren’t letting you run the country anymore – you can’t reason at an adult level.
Doofus.

“the 35% loss the market has sustained post election (worst in the history of the market). I guess that makes me a screwball, right?”
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Yes.

Ben Forgash
It certainly is hilarious attempting to picture all of the sissy liberals in caves attempting to hunt. They were probably fighting for animal’s rights and protesting the hunts on a weekly basis.
Of course they had no problem taking food from the conservatives at the end of the day. Afterall, they had to spread the wealth around!

To quote the great Josiah Bartlett…”dave, when you die, on your tombstone it’s going to say, ‘Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc.”

nice one, silky… too bad a knuckle-dragger like Dave will never get it. LOL

Even I feel sorry for Dave.

Dave -
Please stop taking our name in vain, and stop substituting your narrow misreading of the Constitution with what the law actually says.
Thanks,
- Your Founding Fathers

St Dominic
First of all, silky has a lot to learn about the world. I am pretty sure he has never been out of the USA, which is why he doesn’t appreciate this great country.
I have lived in Europe, and been to France several times. Nice people, terrible economic systems.
I was shocked when I first went to london in highschool to see that the poor people there were actually skinny, and they didn’t have cigarettes! I thought all poor people were fat! Nope. Only in America.
Also, I got salmonella in Warsaw. When I returned to my flat, the symptoms started to manifest themselves. It was pretty bad.
I went to several hospitals where I waited in assembly lines to see a nurse, who recommended tylenol to treat my inability to even keep a drink of water down.
Naturally, I got worse and had to a hire a private physician to come and see me in my flat (which is apparently what you have to do if you want any quality care at all) for $500. I felt better immediatley.
Moral of the story. Europe has been around for thousands of years, and in less than 200 years, Americ’s poor people live better then much of the entire continent.
Let’s give a shout out to capitalism for that.

sorry for hitting the wrong keys..my finger in the middle is worn out today

Founding Fathers
You won’t believe what the democrats did after you died! They actually tried to break from the union in order to keep slavery alive. Thank God they lost that war.
And most recently they elected a man who kicks it with unrepetent terrorists and pastors who like to scream “GD America”.
Oh, and his wife says she has never been proud of her country.

“Moral of the story. Europe has been around for thousands of years, and in less than 200 years, Americ’s poor people live better then much of the entire continent.”
Because they’re too stupid to feed themselves properly?

I know I am going to regret this…
Dave, when you want to share actual ideas, I will be open to them, however, so far, you haven’t presented ideas, you’ve present blanket insults, balls of twisted logic, and evidence of a deep prejudice against some mysterious entity called “The Liberal.”
Your supposed values:
-Small, efficient gov’t (government has grown under every “conservative” administration we have had, see Reagan and Bush. In what way has any conservative ever made government more efficient?)
-Citizen self-reliance and accountability (Obama has brought more sunlight to government then we have had in decades but you just laugh at his efforts to make government actions more transparent.)
-Large and powerful military (Republicans love to talk up the military, they just don’t like to serve in it.)
-Small taxes for everyone (how do you pay for the large and powerful military?)

“..all of the sissy liberals in caves attempting to hunt.”
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Dave,
Thanks, this prompted another thought.
Were Neanderthals “conservative”?
Are you a direct descendant?

cowgirl; The French did profess to be our allies and promised to help us during the revolution, but by the time they arrived we’d already won.

How about all those francs Ben F. got for us? Seems they helped us get on our feet by loaning us money…Damn the first deficit

Efficient government is an oxymoron.

No you.

gus amaral
It was terrible- most pain i have ever been in my life.

Gary; Interesting post. I was just thinking that earmarks are in the eye of the beholder.

“recently they elected a man who kicks it with unrepetent terrorists and pastors..”
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really?
The President cuts a rug with these guys — Country line, Fox Trot?

For most of our nation’s history, individual taxpayers rarely had any significant contact with Federal tax authorities as most of the Federal government’s tax revenues were derived from excise taxes, tariffs, and customs duties. Before the Revolutionary War, the colonial government had only a limited need for revenue, while each of the colonies had greater responsibilities and thus greater revenue needs, which they met with different types of taxes. For example, the southern colonies primarily taxed imports and exports, the middle colonies at times imposed a property tax and a “head” or poll tax levied on each adult male, and the New England colonies raised revenue primarily through general real estate taxes, excises taxes, and taxes based on occupation.
England’s need for revenues to pay for its wars against France led it to impose a series of taxes on the American colonies. In 1765, the English Parliament passed the Stamp Act, which was the first tax imposed directly on the American colonies, and then Parliament imposed a tax on tea. Even though colonists were forced to pay these taxes, they lacked representation in the English Parliament. This led to the rallying cry of the American Revolution that “taxation without representation is tyranny” and established a persistent wariness regarding taxation as part of the American culture.

Sue – you do realize that “earmarks” make up less than 2% of the curent budget, right? You cons are nuts with the earmarks… who cares?

I’m still pissed about the Stamp Act.

mmonroeliveson – dude, are you serious? Do you know anything about the battle of Yorktown? If it wasn’t for the arrival of the French fleet to box in Cornwalis’ army on the Yorktown Peninsula, Washington never would have been able to force a surrender and Cornwalis would have evacuated by sea to fight another day. Without the French fleet, we very well could have lost the American Revolution.
Seriously, don’t you know anything about our history? No wonder nobody takes you cons seriously anymore – you don’t know anything about anything. LOL

Common sense
I don’t hate the gov’t, I just don’t want to grow so big that the people lose their abililty to monitor it.
Growing gov’t is something that is very hard to reverse. Once people become gov’t employees and have every holiday known to man off, pension plans that rivals the NFL, and excellent salaries they are certainly not going to vote themselves out of a job.
My theory is that republicans and democrats can’t be trusted with too much $$$ or power, but the democrats are always trying to increase the federal gov’ts power in both areas.

huh? mmonroe – who the heck claims that the revolution was about “religious freedom”? There was no serious religious oppression in the colonies by 1776 – especially not from the Crown or Parliament. Our Revolution was primarily motived by economics and questions of self-government, not a rebellion against the Church of England. You really need to brush up on your history, sir.

Sam,Obama: “I was against the earmarks before I was for them” which is typical Obama double speak. As one news report stated “President Obama on Wednesday announced new reforms he said would prevent wasteful earmarks, but spoke in support of the practice and defended what he called an “imperfect” spending bill passed by Congress — one loaded with thousands of earmarks.”

Dave – you forget that both Nixon and Reagan and Bush all expanded both the size and power of the government, too.
The fact is that Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats of big for “big government”. The truth is that we are too complex a society to abandon big government. So the trick is not to demand smaller government, but BETTER government.

When the Constitution was adopted in 1789, the Founding Fathers recognized that no government could function if it relied entirely on other governments for its resources, thus the Federal Government was granted the authority to raise taxes. The Constitution endowed the Congress with the power to “…lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, and excises, pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States.” Ever on guard against the power of the central government to eclipse that of the states, the collection of the taxes was left as the responsibility of the State governments.
To pay the debts of the Revolutionary War, Congress levied excise taxes on distilled spirits, tobacco and snuff, refined sugar, carriages, property sold at auctions, and various legal documents. Even in the early days of the Republic, however, social purposes influenced what was taxed. For example, Pennsylvania imposed an excise tax on liquor sales partly “to restrain persons in low circumstances from an immoderate use thereof.” Additional support for such a targeted tax came from property owners, who hoped thereby to keep their property tax rates low, providing an early example of the political tensions often underlying tax policy decisions. OK Dave…what say yee

Common Sense; The term “good government” is something that means different things to different people. I find it interesting that the term liberal suggests free spirited while conservative means backward. The thing that’s so peculiar about those perceptions is that liberals want a big controlling government with lots of regulations and laws, a government that dictates how they must live to receive government benefits, while conservatives prefer a small government with few regulations and minimal say in how we live our lives. If you think about the overall situation laws, rules, regulations, standards, qualifiers all restrict your freedom to choose for yourself. That’s why I consider myself a conservative. I don’t like laws, etc. I don’t like taxes. I want to have as much flexibility in my decision making as possible. So I’m a conservative. As for anarchy, when was the last time you saw comservatives protest or stage a sit-in or riot. Sorry Common Sense you must have us confused with the man in the mirror.

dave…it seems to me the constitution specifically authorised WELFARE……

mmonroe – actually, conservatives CLAIM to want a small government, until they’re faced with the actual realities of governing. Then these very same “conservatives” – Reagan, Nixon, GW Bush – all go on to expand both the size and power of the Federal Government (usually in the name of “National Security”). And when they do cut government programs and oversight, it usually leads to disaster (like at the SEC and the current economic meltdown). The truth is that the only difference between Liberals and Conservatives, when it comes to the size of government, is that Liberals have already made peace with the necessity of big government to run our increasingly complex society – while Conservatives swing from the extremes of their ideological beliefs to the realities of governance. Which is probably why Conservatives make such a hash out of governing at the Federal level.

Tim – what “stumbles”? Obama has been outfoxing the GOP at every turn and winning all his legislative battles so far. Republicans are reeling while Obama dances like a butterfly and stings like a bee. Heck, even the stock market is back up today, thanks to Obama.
You wingnuts really live in an alternate universe, don’t you?

cowgirl – you know what the Constitution DIDN’T authorize? An air force. The Constitution specifically authorizes an Army and a Navy and a militia (and I assume the Marine Corps falls in there somewhere), but there is NO SPECIFIC MENTION OF AN AIRFORCE! Clearly the U.S. Air Force is therefore completely unconstitutional and must be disbanded IMMEDIATELY! LOL

Common Sense, Obama “I was against the earmarks before I was for them” was intended to accurately describe Obama’s current position on earmarks. Obama stated during his campaign that “If any Bill comes across my desk filled with earmarks I will Veto it!” However, “President Obama on Wednesday announced new reforms he said would prevent wasteful earmarks, but spoke in support of the practice and defended what he called an “imperfect” spending bill passed by Congress — one loaded with thousands of earmarks.” If you had any “common sense” and want to be taken seriously you would see the truth of this. LOL

Common Sense; What you’re saying is historically factually true except for the part about deregulation leading to disaster. But we could argue all day about that. We’ve already argued all year. My complaint which will never be rectified is that the government is too big already and it saddens me to see it grow even larger. Big government is the reason we live in such a complex society that requires such a big government. By putting more power in the states the complexity and expense could be minimized. But as you put it the liberals have made peace with the necessity of big government so I suppose we’re all stuck with it. Keep in mind though that because you’re the ones who made peace with big government, you’re responsible for our loss of rights and freedom and increased taxes.

“..Media complicity in covering up ..stumbles. Daily media coordination with WH. Attacks on private citizens.”
_________________
Tim [brother & uncle of Dave],
Using lines from the film
‘THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON’
is plagarism.

mmonroeliveson – um, no. Government is not why our society is so complex. It’s just one factor – our society is complex because of technological innovation, exponential population growth, economics, etc. – government is just trying to keep pace. The idea that government can be shrunk back down to pre-industrial or pre-superpower levels is absurd. For military reasons alone we can’t afford to turn our backs on the size and organizational might of the Federal Government. It’s a pipe dream that Cons just need to get over already.

Common Sense; Yes the French were in the harbor. That was their contribution. On land the colonists had kicked Cornwallis’s arse and there was nothing but ocean behind him, no ships, no way of escape, so thank you French Navy for watching.

mmonroeliveson – and do you know WHY the French were in the harbor? To blockade Cornwalis’ army and cut off their retreat by sea. Cornwalis’s forces were caught between the Continental army and the guns of the French fleet – and he was pounded mercilessly from both sides with no hope of relief by sea. This is what forced his surrender. The French were full, and crucial participants in the final battle of the Revolutionary war.
Don’t forget, Cornwallis originally wanted to surrender to the Marquis de Lafayette, not General Washington. That itself should tell you something about the impact of the French intervention in our Revolution.
This is not up for debate, friend. It’s historical fact. Do you seriously not know this? I recommend you take a vacation at Colonial Williamsburg some day and walk the battlefield for yourself. You might learn something.

“As for anarchy, when was the last time you saw conservatives protest or stage a sit-in or riot.”
How about during the 2000 election when Bush supporters rioted on the Statehouse steps in Talahassee?

Interesting… and you got all those from Newsweek? Tell me again how the media is “covering up” his “stumbles”? LOL
You dumb cons are too easy.

Madisons ad hoc comments don’t trump the constitution…

Good one, Clean Machine!

Clean Machine, The media is still making excuses for Obama that if he was Bush, Obama’s stumbles would not be one obscure article in Newsweek, they would be headline news on every news outlet day and night.

Common Sense,
The Air Force was originally a Branch of the Army. Also known as the Army Air Corps. So that fact alone legitimizes the progression of a Specialized Branch for the Sole Purpose of Aircraft. That also Explains the Coast Guard and Marine Corps since one is considered part of the Navy and the other could be considered as such.
The Fact that Ballons did exists in some form in the 1770′s does not mean the Founders could have forseen the creation of an Airforce for Warfare.
Considering that the Main Reason for the Creation of Government is to Protect your Freedoms and Liberties would it not make sense that instruments to assist in that cause would be considered Constitutinal?
Common along that line of reasoning there is no specific mention of Abortion in the Constitution…But yet it receives Government Funds, like the Airforce. But I don’t see how it’s existence protects Me and My Family, Do you?

“..to confuse the Post Office with Socialistic Programs like Welfare(The Act of taking ones Property for the Sole Purpose of giving to another.Which is Not what Taxes are as defined by the Constitution.) is not only intellectually dishonest but shows your lack of understanding in what exactly the Constitution is ment to establish which is a Limited Government with Limited Powers.”
___________________
Whaa?

Patch W Adams – um, no. The Air Force would be Constitutionally legitimate ONLY if it remained part of the U.S. Army. Remember, that Arcticle 1, Section 8 ONLY specifies the creation of an Army, a Navy and a Militia. It doesn’t matter if you think that an airforce is necessary for our defense (or if social welfare programs are necessary to protect our neediest citizens) – if the Constitution doesn’t mandate it, it’s unconstitutional!

“..The Fact that Ballons did exists in some form in the 1770′s does not mean the Founders could have forseen the creation of an Airforce for Warfare.”
_____________________________
The father of the dirigible was Lieutenant Jean Baptiste Marie Meusnier (1754-93).
Those pesky French
rearing their[collective]head again!

sorry patch..missed your name on there as well, and the federalist papers don’t carry the weight of the constitution…kinda like different intrpretations of the bible…the fact that you consider madison to be the father..is just an opinion..it was the original poligamy..many fathers…

Kelly Pritkin, the Dow closed at 9,625 on Obama’s Inauguration on January 20, 2009, now it stands at 6,930, a loss of 32 percent. In order to say “the stimulus is working” the market should at least go back up to 9,625 where it way on Jan 20, 2009 don/t you think?

Mary – no, what I actually think is that to blame the Dow & Nasdaq’s fortunes on any one factor is complete crap – and that all the ranting kooks like Jim Cramer trying to blame their failure on Obama are just pathetic. That’s what I think, thanks for asking. LOL

I can’t believe that Obammy Lammy ding dong has such low class as to give the PRIME MINISER OF ENGLAND, OUR MOST IMPORTANT ALLY a bunch of crappy DVDs! What an outrageous insult! Obama is the worst President ever! He is worse than Hitler! All you brainswashed lib Obamabots are going to be begging for George Bush – who you once reviled and scorened with your hate – to come back to protect you when the terrorists strike again! Obama wants to surrender to the Taliban and let Al Queda run wild! You’ll be sorry when you see what Obammy-Lammy-Ding-Dong has in store for you!

Chattyway, boy your side really has a way with words…I see bush has brought you down to his level of dialogue..congrats

shut up cowgirl – your nothing but a stinking communist obamabot who wants to steal our freedom and give our money to the lazy, unemployed blacks and the welfare queens! You liberal elitists want to make fun of a good family woman like Sarah Palin while the blacks run wild and steal and rape and kill! You limosine liberals make me sick with your lies and lack of patriotism! You spit on our soliders and side with the terrorists just like Barry Obammy Lammy ding dong!

President Obama and Congress Fiddle while America’s Wealth BURNS!
Since Barack Obama was installed as President – a mere 6 wks ago, our Major Stock Market Indices have plunged more than 20% (the defining point of a “Bear Mkt”) and the Recession has deepened with over 8.1% now officially Unemployed. investors see major American financial and manufacturing behemoths on the brink of bankruptcy.
Zoom out a bit, and we see the situation even more dire. Since Mr. Obama’s Election, Americans have lost some $3 trillion in wealth, reports Investors’ Business Daily, as the markets have plummeted some 30%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average, for example, has collapsed from 9,625.28 on January 20, 2009 to 6,930 on March 11, 2009. In the midst of all this: Millions of Americans have lost their jobs. Small businesses are dying. Big businesses are dying. Credit is tight. Confidence is low. And people are anxious.
The White House and Congress are fiddling – with an “Omnibus Spending” (& Pork) bill that will increase spending by 8% and includes 8500 earmarks that Obama promised to veto , a “Cap and Trade (carbon tax)” bill that will increase everyone’s energy costs, the (so-called) “Employee Free (i.e. Forced) Choice (card check)” which will further increase unemployment per testimony before Congress, and a (National Socialist) Universal Health Care plan which will further put us into debt- No wonder the market is tanking. while America’s Financial Markets and Banking System are BURNING Obama and the Dems fiddles.

Thank goodness.
Jesus has arrived. and back on the political blog scene.

Chattyway
I love you.

Someone is posting under my name. I do NOT love chattway.
Chattyway, slow down with racist rants. There are just as many lazy white people jumping up and down in church-revival fashion when BO speaks, who are expecting him to pay their rent for them, too.
You lose all credibilty when you say that blacks are the lazy people in this country. Just shut up.
Lazy whites and blacks everywhere will drain this country dry as BO spreads around the hard earned dollars of working Americans. To say that it is only the blacks is offensive and stupid.

Kelly Pritkin, In case you have not noticed we have not been attacked since 9/11, the war in Iraq has been won, (however maybe Obama will change a win to a loss but that will be on his watch) and New Orleans and other areas that were impacted by Katrina are well on their way to recovery. So your definition of failure is not credible.
What my point was is that despite these two catastrophes the economy and stock market grew under President Bush for seven and one half years. A fact you cannot deny. And again, it was only when the Dems took over that the economy started to fail.
The basic reason behind the failed economy now is the failure of the banks due to bad home loans. Bad home loans that the Dems supported and promoted despite the fact President Bush attempted 18 times during his Presidency to bring Fannie and Freddie under control which all the Dems all opposed including Obama. The facts are that the root caused for the failure of the economy, the collaspe of the banks, lies squarely at the feet of the Dems and Obama.
The above should also address the “post oc ergo propter hoc” from Common Sense. Bad home loans supported by Obama and the Dems, led to the failure of the banks led to the current economy collaspe which Obama is still not addressing. As the post from Carl says Obama and the Dems are fiddling while America’s banking system and financial markets are BURNING. A good explanation of this is from an Oct 8, 2008 article in the NY Times “The Reckoning
Pressured to Take More Risk, Fannie Reached Tipping Point” http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/business/05fannie.html?_r=1&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

The war in Iraq has been “won”, huh? That place will go to the dogs again shortly. You think a conflict dyed that deep in the wool evaporates just because W sprinkles a little FREEDOM dust? You’re on acid.

Tim
Great post.
Barney Frank should be in jail for his crimes against the economy. While he was the HEAD OF THE HOUSE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMMITTEE, he fought like a wild man against ANY regulation of fannie/freddie (this can be viewed at various senate hearings on the internet) while at the same time having a gay affair with the head of fannie mae. That is one heck of a conflict of interest.
The only reason that most of the country doesn’t know about this is because barney, the blundering idiot, has a (D) before his name. With media protection anything is possible.

tim,in case you don’t remember, we were attacked by anthrax after 9/11, rather suspicious since all envelopes mailed were to democrats..and coincidently…no one was ever charged..and don’t give me the dead guy…no one believes it for a minute…i am still waiting to see where that shoe falls

Looks like it’s been “Quite A Day!” Lots of bickering, bantering, “finger pointing”, substantiated and unsubstantiated claims. Lots of ‘cut-n-paster’s', gambler’s (who’ll just toss something out there (for effect), with their fingers crossed and the “Hobo’s” – out there to jump on any train going in their direction. Then there’s the Liar’s and the Flier’s. You Liar’s know who you are. But yet you persist, coming back daily with the same-old-trash….. in hopes, I guess… that you’ll get a slightly new audience, who JUST MIGHT ‘buy into your ‘unadulturated crap.’ The Flier’s are “just along for the ride.” They’re the “Hanger On’s”, they have their partisan platform (Left, Center or Right) and they set out to influence the mis-educated, the mis-informed or the illiterate – “By Any Means Necessary!”
A couple of major problems, I detected while browsing, that I could use some help with;
1.) “Our Congressional Representatives were elected to represent The People.” If that’s True, why is it that 60%+ of The People are supportive of President Obama, giving him “good marks” in Job Performance AND his handling of the Economy, thus far. The People’s sentiments (+ 60%) is certainly NOT reflected in the positions of The People’s Elected Legislator’s!!!
2.) Several Participant’s claim that President Obama won the 2008 Election, based largely on the overwhelming support of blocs of voters; The Young Vote, The Black Vote and The Hispanic Vote. Well the Obama Campaign was sufficiently Effective to garner all 3 of those Valuable Voter blocs. But please be Clear, the Primary Group of Voters responsible for the 2008 Election of Barack Obama, was the Overwhelming Turn-Out of the “Well Educated, Largely Affluent, Politically Engaged – White Female Voter, nationwide!”
It’s been fun, it’s late, game’s on.

good summation Bob…

To all you lying republicants here you should get your lies straight.
John McCain campaigned to END earmarks.
Barack Obama campaigned to REFORM the earmark process.
Stop getting your news from Fox, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS and NBC and find out for yourselves.
Your lies got us into this middle east mess.
If you think we are stupid enough to put another republican in charge of our country you had better think again. One dummy per century is about all this country can take.
All you Herbert Hoover republicans…KMA

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