Mar 12, 2009 8:08am

The Note, 3/12/09: Practically Imperfect — Meet The New Rules, Same (Roughly) As The Old Rules

By RICK KLEIN: Just like that, with a signing statement as exclamation point, it’s done. The old era is out, the new era is in, and Washington stands warned by the new president that the world is about to change. Except if it won’t. What’s remarkable about the carefully book-ended White House events — the private signing making 8,500 earmarks law, and the public statement saying that such earmarks will never again become law with such ease — is how old Washington it all looked. This was about accommodation: President Obama did not choose a frontal assault on the earmarking process that’s survived natural disasters, wars, and power shifts in the White House and Congress. Instead he chose to get something done — a compromise that the president admits is “imperfect.” It may mean just about nothing by the time the next round of spending comes around. But it may also mean that more than nothing will be able to happen with the rest of the president’s agenda. Might this mark a tonal shift? After 50 days of telling the nation the time to act is now — on healthcare, on education, on the economy and more — this was a president saying it’s OK to act later. This was a concession to the possible, at the expense of the ideal. Do as I say I will, not as I do now: “As a candidate, Barack Obama once said that a president has to be able to do more than one thing at a time. Wednesday he proved it, though not in the way he had in mind,” McClatchy’s Steven Thomma and David Lightman report. “It was a day when rhetoric met reality and politicians on both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue scrambled to get on the safe side of a volatile issue, while still advancing favorite projects,” The New York Times’ Peter Baker and David Herszenhorn report. “Republicans who passed record numbers of earmarks when they were in charge chided Democrats for passing their own. The president and fellow Democrats who had promised they would curb the practice when they took charge promised they really would next time.” (Think he really wants to take this on? “I am tired of talking about doughnut holes,” said House Appropriations Chairman David Obey, D-Wis.) A political calculation? “White House counselor David Axelrod suggested a veto would send a strong signal that Mr. Obama’s Washington really would represent change. But the president decided it wasn’t worth adding a fight with his own party onto a plate that is already overly filled,” Jonathan Weisman and Greg Hitt report in The Wall Street Journal. “The old bulls won,” Politico’s Jonathan Martin writes. “Pulled between his campaign rhetoric and his own party’s congressional barons, President Barack Obama largely sided with his Hill allies in unveiling an earmark proposal Wednesday that shies away from any strict crackdown on the practice.” The AP’s Andrew Taylor sees a missed chance for reform — but a calculated one: “In proposing only modest changes in how lawmakers finance their pet projects, President Barack Obama tossed aside a golden opportunity to work with Sen. John McCain. Instead, the president stood foursquare with his Democratic allies, the people he needs most to advance his ambitious agenda.” “President Obama’s call to rein in the use of earmarks was met with derision yesterday even from some of his past reformer allies, dealing an early blow to his attempt to change how business is done in Washington,” Paul Kane and Scott Wilson write in The Washington Post. “As he vowed to press Congress to shun earmarks in the future, a bipartisan collection of lawmakers said the proposals he offered yesterday would do little to curb the practice and would do nothing to address the appearance of a connection between campaign contributions and spending programs ordered up by lawmakers.” Choose your metaphor: “It’s like washing down a doughnut with a Slim-Fast shake,” said Antonia Ferrier, a spokeswoman for House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. “Give me sobriety, but not yet,” Rep. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., told the Chicago Tribune’s James Oliphant and Christi Parsons. “The president blinked,” Steve Ellis, of Taxpayers for Common Sense, tells The Note. What really is new? “The bulk of the proposals in the House reforms have either already been put in place or were expected to be used during the coming appropriations process by House Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) and Senate Appropriations Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii),” Roll Call’s John Stanton and Steven T. Dennis write. “But Pelosi included new initiatives to provide the executive branch greater review of earmarks sought by lawmakers, as well as a requirement that earmarks for for-profit businesses undergo a competitive bidding process.” Two days after saying signing statements should be used carefully — Congress is “advisory?” “President Obama on Wednesday issued his first signing statement, reserving a right to bypass dozens of provisions in a $410 billion government spending bill even as he signed it into law,” Charlie Savage writes in The New York Times. “In the statement — directions to executive-branch officials about how to carry out the legislation — Mr. Obama instructed them to view most of the disputed provisions as merely advisory and nonbinding, saying they were unconstitutional intrusions on his own powers.” The signing came “behind closed doors and away from the glare of the cameras,” per ABC’s (birthday boy) Jake Tapper — and with a signing statement appended. “The reforms he proposed are already either there or meaningless,” said Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. McCain is making good on his promise to make earmark sponsors “famous,” ABC’s David Chalian writes. “McCain has taken to the digital bully pulpit of Twitter that has been all the rage in official Washington of late. He has been regularly tweeting top 10 lists of the spending projects he finds most egregious.” (And Twitter as reporting tool. This Tweet from Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo.: “George S.:Ultimately just couldn’t do it. Not just earmrks tho, also increase in spendng(8%too much)& failure to reconcile $ with stimuls.”) Coming Thursday, per The White House — Obama checks in to make sure no one’s messing with Joe: at 11 am ET, “the President will stop by the Recovery Act Implementation Conference and discuss the need for dollars invested and spent as part of the Recovery Act are effective, transparent and efficient.” Later in the day, it’s some Abe Lincoln action, and a presidential address to the Business Roundtable in Washington. Wonder if he’ll be asked about: “U.S. President Barack Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner received failing grades for their efforts to revive the economy from participants in the latest Wall Street Journal forecasting survey,” Phil Izzo writes in The Wall Street Journal. For your emerging consensus files: “President Obama’s honeymoon is beginning to fade,” The Hill’s Alexander Bolton writes. “Members of Congress and old political hands say he needs to show substantial progress reviving the economy soon.” Where’s the focus? “Today Washington’s discrepancy is not architectural but political. It is between the extraordinary powers and competences the administration claims it has and the administration’s inability to be clear or plausible about what it is doing,” George Will writes in his column. “The administration insists that it really does have a single priority: Everything depends on fixing the economy. But it also says that everything depends on everything: Economic revival requires enactment of the entire liberal wish list of recent decades.” Thing Newt Gingrich is scared? “No one should underestimate the danger posed by these policy failures,” he writes for Time. “Gigantic economic dislocations have gigantic noneconomic consequences. The Great Depression led to the rise of Nazi Germany and a militaristic Japan, the spread of communism and World War II.” Karl Rove judges the Rush Limbaugh dispute a loser for the White House: “Here’s the problem: Misdirection never lasts long. Team Obama can at best only temporarily distract the public; within days, attention will return to issues that clearly should worry the White House.” And yet — something new to distract the driving public. The DNC’s Jen O’Malley Dillon on Thursday will announce the winner of the Rush Limbaugh billboard contest. After some 80,000 suggestions, and some 50,000 votes, the following will go up on up a billboard in West Palm Beach (and will be printed on T-shirts): “Americans didn’t vote for a Rush to failure.” Treasury Secretary Geithner is on the Hill Thursday, again. Per a Treasury official, he’s talking budget, then will go to the Business Roundtable, “where he will walk through the details of the Administration’s comprehensive plan to stabilize the financial system and get lending flowing again — by ensuring banks have the confidence to lend, jumpstarting securitization markets, stemming the foreclosure crisis and providing financing to help the private sector purchase the distressed assets weighing down balance sheets.” As for the next steps — it’s going to mean more money, and look for the rest of the bank plans in the next week or so: “President Obama met with his team, late into the night on Tuesday — past 10 o’clock on Tuesday night — and he signed off on this final part of the bank plan, whereby the government will partner with hedge funds — finance hedge funds, to buy up these toxic assets from the banks,” ABC’s George Stephanopoulos reported on “Good Morning America” Thursday. “The government thinks this is best alternative to temporary nationalization of the banks.” A defense of Geithner — sort of: “Here’s Geithner’s problem: He’s an Inside Man. Inside Man has the brain of Einstein and the presence of a flea. Inside Man can’t catch a break in our telegenic age,” Bloomberg’s Margaret Carlson writes. “Inside Men don’t make nice, or need to. They’re not running for office, just running to save the world.” RNC Chairman Michael Steele talks to GQ — and probably doesn’t do himself many favors in his bid to hang on to his job. “I see the power of life in that — I mean, and the power of choice! The thing to keep in mind about it. . . . Uh, you know, I think as a country we get off on these misguided conversations that throw around terms that really misrepresent truth,” Steele said. “The choice issue cuts two ways. You can choose life, or you can choose abortion. You know, my mother chose life. So, you know, I think the power of the argument of choice boils down to stating a case for one or the other,” he said. Question: “Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?” Steele: “Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice.” Question: “You do?” Steele: “Yeah. Absolutely.” (At what point does he stop playing pundit and start playing party leader?) The clarifying statement from Steele: “I am pro-life, always have been, always will be. I tried to present why I am pro life while recognizing that my mother had a ‘choice’ before deciding to put me up for adoption. I thank her every day for supporting life. The strength of the pro life movement lies in choosing life and sharing the wisdom of that choice with those who face difficult circumstances. They did that for my mother and I am here today because they did. In my view Roe vs. Wade was wrongly decided and should be repealed. I realize that there are good people in our party who disagree with me on this issue. But the Republican Party is and will continue to be the party of life. I support our platform and its call for a Human Life Amendment. It is important that we stand up for the defenseless and that we continue to work to change the hearts and minds of our fellow countrymen so that we can welcome all children and protect them under the law.” Did House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., abuse her travel privileges? Not so fast. “The treasure trove of documents obtained by Judicial Watch from the Department of Defense regarding Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s use of military aircraft doesn’t seem to prove the organization’s allegation that Pelosi has made ‘unprecedented demands’ for the flights,” ABC’s Jonathan Karl and Luis Martinez report. “In fact, it appears that Pelosi uses military aircraft less often than her predecessor, former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert.” Did Sen. David Vitter, R-La., abuse his travel privileges? Investigation underway: “The Transportation Security Administration is examining Sen. David Vitter’s much-reported decision to open the closed gateway door to his plane — even though he was warned against it by an airline worker,” Hotline’s Jennifer Skalka reports. The New Orleans Times-Picayune has a statement from Vitter: “After being delayed on the Senate floor ensuring a vote on my anti-pay-raise amendment and in a rush to make my flight home for town hall meetings the next day, I accidentally went through a wrong door at the gate.” How long before we see the book deal? (“I Could Have Seen Russia From My In-Laws’ House.”) “Levi Johnston and Bristol Palin, the teenage daughter of Gov. Sarah Palin, have broken off their engagement, he said Wednesday, about 2 1/2 months after the couple had a baby,” the AP’s Rachel D’Oro reports. Robin Roberts interviews First Lady Michelle Obama Thursday at Fort Bragg — look for it on “GMA” Friday. The Kicker: “If that’s the case why isn’t Zimbabwe a rich place? . . . Why isn’t Zimbabwe just an incredibly prosperous place? ‘Cause they’re printing money they don’t have and sending it around to their different — I don’t know the towns in Zimbabwe but that same logic is being applied there with little effect.” — Gov. Mark Sanford, R-S.C., arguing that stimulus spending in states doesn’t create jobs, per CNN’s Jessica Yellin. “The doctors tell me that as people age, they become more vulnerable for example to having these muscles — like if I write a lot or play video games or you know, just do anything like that, anything . . . my fingers and these things tighten up or I’m tired if I’m working hard. It will cause your hands to shake.” — President Bill Clinton, telling Sanjay Gupta that he’s been tested and does not have Parkinson’s. Follow The Note on Twitter: http://twitter.com/thenote Bookmark the link below to get The Note’s daily morning analysis:
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User Comments

In his own pragmatic terms,the foundations of this legislation are fundamentally wrong.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:12 am 8:12 am

Basically, it was a symbolic and meaningless event. Sort of like the parent who threatens “If you do that one more time” only to keep threatening in the future but never punish.
I do not doubt that President Obama may be opposed to earmarks. The problem is that Congress is leading him, not the other way around.
http://federalistblogs.wordpress.com/

Posted by: FederalistBlogs | March 12, 2009, 8:14 am 8:14 am

Honk if you’re paying for my Cadillac.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Honk if you’re buying the fuel for my 747.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Honk if you’re paying my mortgage.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:21 am 8:21 am

Honk if you’re my honky.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:22 am 8:22 am

What would the talk be if Obama actually vetoed the omnibus? Conservatives and the media would be trashing him for “wasting” time and effort on a meaningless bill from last year.
http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | March 12, 2009, 8:24 am 8:24 am

The key word describing the Obama administration is “pragmatic,” which translates to “don’t make waves.”

Posted by: tina | March 12, 2009, 8:26 am 8:26 am

Pelosi owns him.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:34 am 8:34 am

tina; Pragmatic means you’re stupid if you don’t agree with him.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:47 am 8:47 am

Pragmatic also translates to “Git ‘er done”.

Posted by: Steve From NH | March 12, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am

Monroeliveson – got anything constructive to say, or is all just grade school name calling?

Posted by: Steve From NH | March 12, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Apparently Obama’s definition of pragmatic is if you don’t agree with him you’re stupid. Stupid is as stupid does Forrest.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 8:56 am 8:56 am

Grade school it is then. Better go catch the bus.

Posted by: Steve From NH | March 12, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Let me be the firs honest Democrate to admit that I am now officially in buyers remorse. I will never be hood winked again by this party. I am 73 years and a retired auto worker. I will never again vote for another democrate. this guy is not only the same as the old crew, he is worse because his policies are anti-american. To my conservative friends, I wish to apologize and to my life long democratic frinds and family members, it’s time to rething a few things. This guy is in over his head and as a Viet-nam Veteran, I’m a little afraid of his agenda.

Posted by: Leroy | March 12, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am

Talk is cheap.!! Obama’s words mean NOTHING . He is going to “change” Washington. Yeah right? Why didn’t he veto the bill with 9000 earmarks like he said during the campaign? Obama has lost all credibility !!!

Posted by: CW | March 12, 2009, 9:09 am 9:09 am

Leroy,
I hated reading your post but I have to admit that I have been feeling the same way. I am only 23 years old; President Obama is the first President I have ever voted for. I so much did not anticipate that we would be heading down the road of socialism that my dad told me he would. Coming from a Sunni Catholic family(:)), everything my parents said would happen is happening even though I thought they were crazy and overreaching of their critisim of this President during the campaign. I still beleive President Obama is a good man but as a recently graduated economist, his policies are very suspect to any growth. Even the Liberal professors at Columbia where I attended are having a hard time figuring this out. I am not ready to give up on President Obama yet, but the fat lady is warming up. More than probably never voting for a Democrate again, I am having to eat a life time supply of crow at my parents home in Philly.

Posted by: Scott | March 12, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Obama said anything to get elected. He is a fraud. He conned Americans in order to get elected.

Posted by: CW | March 12, 2009, 9:21 am 9:21 am

Obama is now talking about a new stimulus.
The first one was supposed to create 3 million jobs. So far it has created 25.
Obama wants to negotiate with the terrorist that have killed thousands of Americans. Obama says one thing and does another. He is not a leader he is a puppet for Pelosi , Reid and others in the Democratic party. Shame on you Obama.!! You deceived the American people.

Posted by: CW | March 12, 2009, 9:28 am 9:28 am

I am so impressed with Obama. Who knew he was such a skilled politician? Smart, idealistic, active, I knew he was all that, but he’s also much savvier, and better at manipulating Congress, than I ever would have expected. I feel good! We have a competent President at long last. And I’m liking Joe Biden too, saw him on a video tape introducing the new Drug Czar. My favorite opening sentece in a news article today? “In a sharp departure from Bush administration policy…”

Posted by: Amy in Maine | March 12, 2009, 9:29 am 9:29 am

You all realize he’s not instituting Socialism, right? And that government’s investment in these firms is only for as long as it takes to right the economy?

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 9:31 am 9:31 am

Obama is “going to shake up Washington” Yeah RIGHT!!! Obama conned Americans into voting for him.

Posted by: CW | March 12, 2009, 9:49 am 9:49 am

“Obama wants to negotiate with the terrorist that have killed thousands of Americans.”
Please explain what you mean by “negotiate.” Not that I don’t think it’s worth considering. Countries go to war all the time, killing each other, and then negotiate peace agreements. That’s kinda how it works. He just wants to save American lives. What’s so horrible about that? That’s more important than your chickenhawk strut.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am

My ear-marks are ringing!

Posted by: Geo | March 12, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am

I hope “Amy in Maine” has lots and lots of the good drugs that she is on because she needs to start passing them out.

Posted by: Lee | March 12, 2009, 9:59 am 9:59 am

Looks like Leroy (73, retired auto worker) and Scott (23, economics student) are the same person, who spells “Democrat” with an extra “e” at the end.
HEY! It’s Dan Quayle!

Posted by: Steve From NH | March 12, 2009, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Steve from NH; I wish he’d gone to MIT and learned about numbers, like a million is a lot, a billion is a mind boggling number and a trillion is beyond comprehension. Since you seem to agree with the Omnibus Spendulus, please furnish your street address so we’ll know where to send the bills.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Leroy and Scott: Before you go being sorry you voted for Obama, please give him a chance. He’s not even in for two months. He has a lot of mess on his plate…He said in the campaign that this is not going to be fixed overnight. It took eight years for all this mess to add up so it’s not going to take two months to fix it. I believe he is doing the right thing and let’s give him some time….Bush was given four years, had us in a war and a mess, and was given four more years. So I think Pres. Obama deserves more than two months.

Posted by: Barb | March 12, 2009, 10:00 am 10:00 am

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose…

Posted by: Terry | March 12, 2009, 10:01 am 10:01 am

Oh, I am so disappointed. It seems the new emperor has clay feet. I had so much hope for Him, he has a golden opportunity to really be a great president and now he is glued into the “system” that he will never amount to anything. We can all thank him for increaasing entitlements to those that don’t want to work for a living and be responsible for themselves. How many of you realized we were voting to change the constitution requirements for the president as far as being a “natural born”? I guess now we can elect anybody? Pray for Obama to be a great President and look out for the American People, democracy, individual responsibility. Oh I’m so upset!!!!

Posted by: Richard | March 12, 2009, 10:03 am 10:03 am

silky you silver tongued devil, It’s not for as long as it takes to right the economy. We’ll get paid back if and when these companies can afford to pay the money back and not a moment sooner. And Amy, manipulating congress? Excuse me. Who is being manipualted? Clue: It’s not him and it’s not congress. Check your mirror for the answer.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am

Yesterday’s NEWS!!!

Posted by: Olu | March 12, 2009, 10:09 am 10:09 am

No, obama lied and conned to get into office. He does NOT deserve a chance. HOw many lies will it take for you liberals to get it thru your heads this guy is not good for this country. He is a rookie, and his policies will do NOTHING to help. It’s like the gambler at the slot machine that just keeps putting in money and losing. But still holding out hope that he/she may win back a dollar here or there. That is the perfect analogy of this administration. And if you think Bush did this go back to school. This started with the CRA (carter and clinton) and the housing market. One man “Bush” can’t make law and create spending bills. Dem’s have been in charge of congress since 2006 when the economy started to tank. Look it up!

Posted by: chad | March 12, 2009, 10:11 am 10:11 am

The prison at Gitmo is still open for business. We are executing the withdrawal and buildup plan in Iraq and Afghanistan put together by Bush and his military leaders. Congress is spending money like a drunken sailor. And O is real sorry he had to sign that bill, but like Chris Brown, promises to never do it again. America was had.

Posted by: ChainsUCanBelieveIn | March 12, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am

Barb; Distractor meisteress…Bush this and Bush that. This isn’t Bush anymore. It’s Obama. Some of us don’t think we can stand four more years of the last eight years.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 10:12 am 10:12 am

While he can’t change things overnight, there are some things he can do, like stop the ear marks and say wake up, let’s do this right and get the American people behind us……instead, same old same old. Different day, same outcome………..same politics…..

Posted by: kab4usa | March 12, 2009, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Obama is a liar. It is now a proven fact.

Posted by: mojo | March 12, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am

There can be no change for the better until “We The People” have a complete new CON Gress.

Posted by: Dave | March 12, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am

It cracks me up that the same Wall Street “big shots” who never saw anything wrong with our banking practices, with the crazy housing bubble, with the poor job the SEC was doing tracking down fraud (how the hell did Bernie Madoff get away with defrauding “investors” of 65 billion dollars, and nobody noticed?) These SAME people are sooo disappointed Obama hasn’t straigthened out their mess in his first fifty days in office. Cracks me up.

Posted by: Amy in Maine | March 12, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am

“silky you silver tongued devil, It’s not for as long as it takes to right the economy. We’ll get paid back if and when these companies can afford to pay the money back and not a moment sooner.”
Of course, but that’s not the point. I was addressing the absurd, recurring “socialism” accusations.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 10:25 am 10:25 am

Amy; They’re the ones he’s hired to fix the mess they made.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Please send all bills to:
Madoff, Thain, AIG, Rubin and Weill
c/o The American Consumer
12 Fatcat Lane
Cayman Islands
You’re right, it’s not all Bush’s fault. Probably started with Reagan (deregulation), got progressively worse, and then Bush got distracted by Iraq and let the bus run completely off the road.
Democrats share the blame, but it’s hard to believe that a party that had just gotten into power when the problem was realized (spring 2007, Democrats took office in Jan 07 – not 06) could cause that much trouble in a couple of months.
Remember, the root cause of all of this is because a bunch of out-of-control gamblers bet 700 trillion that housing prices would go up forever.
Nope, I haven’t given up on Obama yet. Maybe we all will, but not yet – this is still all playing out. And remember while you’re slamming his performance on the economy and calling him a socialist – wait, if he were truly a socialist wouldn’t he have “nationalized” more banks than Bush and Reagan did? – you should remember that he has other urgent items on his plate.
I think that the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan might just be as or more critical than the state of the economy.
For all the complaints, one thing that I truly appreciate (so far) about this administration is that they seem to be trying to act based on factual information, rather than acting as ideologues and then finding some facts to back ‘em up.

Posted by: Steve From NH | March 12, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am

Until you get rid of pork and the lobbyists, D.C. is going to be corrupt. Makke all the speeches you want. But to fix things you need to change things.

Posted by: jamesx | March 12, 2009, 10:36 am 10:36 am

American Taxpayer: -12 TRILLION. Social Security: -60 TRILLION. Medicare: – 40 TRILLION. Washington IQ: +150?

Posted by: Geo | March 12, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Obama’s mission isn’t the economy. It is to punish the rich who he feels made their wealth off the labor of low-income workers — in the same way rich plantation owners made their wealth off the labor of slaves. Subliminally, I believe he is getting retribution for the injustice of slavery. When you look at who his mentors were, this is not surprising.

Posted by: jbjm13 | March 12, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Silky, The United States has been a mixed capitalist/socialist economy for ninety years or longer, although not nearly as paternalistic as Europe’s mixed economies. To argue that Obama has not increased the socialism portion of that equation is truly pointless.
Your rhetoric, especially the use the term “socialism accusations” makes me believe that you believe socialism is a bad word although you unknowingly support increased socialism in action. You are not alone; I am seeing this contradiction of denial more and more among family and friends.

Posted by: Poseur de Questions | March 12, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

Steve from NH; The Pakistan/Afghanistan problem is meritorious of our attention. Possibly more dangerous than that war is the nuclear proliferation in Iran and N. Korea. But these things are distracting our attention. Drug cartels may soon take over the Mexican government, our trade partner. Then we’ll have to sort that out and probably forcefully. The thing that has mystified me for years is that the cartels wouldn’t exist wihtout an unobstucted path into the United States drug market. Why haven’t we secured our border with Mexico?

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am

My New English friend Steve in NH,
The Left constantly plays the blame game and rarely takes accountability and personal responsibility. Ayn Rand was right.

Posted by: Poseur de Questions | March 12, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am

chainsucanbelievein – “And O is real sorry he had to sign that bill, but like Chris Brown, promises to never do it again.” very funny!
And playing the role of Rihanna in this chat forum is Amy in Maine!

Posted by: phreddy111 | March 12, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am

say obama is your child he gets a drivers license he takes the wifes car and totals it next he borrows dads car totals it do you say well hes only been driving two months he needs time to learn do you give him the keys to grandmas car?

Posted by: david reyes | March 12, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am

I have to agree with Leroy. I too voted Obama and I already wish I had my vote back.
I am not sure how much better McCain would have been (if any), but I think McCain would have, at least, vetoed this lavish budget.
Obama must go. I think we will see a mass departure of democrats at the 2010 elections.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 10:49 am 10:49 am

If the economy recovers you dems will say your savior did it. if he fails you’ll blame Bush. you are all lemmings. Move to France you will be happy there.

Posted by: trace | March 12, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am

“Silky, The United States has been a mixed capitalist/socialist economy for ninety years or longer”
You missed the point. The people crying “socialism” are using the term as if his end goal is SOCIALISM. It’s not. Of course, it’s always been mixed.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Punish the rich? Like, how? Tax them so they can’t get that Bentley they’ve been salivating over? Can’t get the 50-foot yacht, and will have to settle for the 40-footer? Please, the rich have never been punished. They have gotten richer over the past 8 years under Bush’s tax cuts for the rich. Let them pay more money since they have a lot more money with which to pay taxes anyway! They could live comfortably just off the interest alone that they are earning from their multi-millions. Give people making under $250,000 a year a tax cut! That’s who needs it.

Posted by: geecee | March 12, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Obama should have asked that all of the earmarks for the individual that has the biggest earmark $ request be thrown out. That way they would only lose 1 vote, and it would have caused everyone to relook at what they are asking for and reduce it to the minimum that they really need, so that they don’t end up being the person who gets the axe.

Posted by: Joel | March 12, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Too bad, I was really expecting Obama to draw down the war in Iraq, devise a plan to repair the economy, and totally revise the business-as-usual Washington mentality in his first 50 days. Maybe he could work out a cure for cancer while he’s at it. Seriously though, ear marks account for 2% of the budget, and a lot of them are actually useful. Worry about earmarks in a budget bill aimed at economic recovery is like worrying about a leaky sink aboard a ship that’s heading for an ice berg.

Posted by: wolf | March 12, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Did anyone actually believe this politician (or any for that matter) would bring about change??? If they instituted the change we really need they would all be out looking for work.

Posted by: what the!? | March 12, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am

monroeliveson: Agreed – I have a friend who went to Mexico last week (small fishing/tourist village south of Cancun), and the army got into a shooting match down the road from where he was staying.
I’m mystified as you are as to why the border has been so porous, I’m assuming it’s for the continued flow of cheap labor?
And, what do you think about the percentage of guns carried by the cartels (70%+ I think?) that come from the US?
Whatever anyone says about Obama and this administration, there are more serious issues to be dealt with – quickly, and carefully – than there have been in a long, long, time.
Also – I read a very interesting book by Kevin Phillips, called “Bad Money”. He’s an ex-republican adviser who know looks at both parties as 2 wings flapping the same bird. He’s an economic historian, and points out in that book that what’s happening in the US now is a natural effect of Finance taking the place of Manufacturing, and it has happened repeatedly throughout history. Very interesting….

Posted by: Steve from NH | March 12, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am

I think you’re right, No Common Sense. McCain probably would not have cut it on the economic issues either, although it would have been an improvement over Bush/Obama, probably closer to Clinton.
The only one of the real contenders who had real solutions founded on actual market-based principles was Romney (unless you count Ron Paul, who also trusts Americans with their economic freedom), who would have been sitting pretty for the election after the October market tank had it not been for the vindictive machinations of one shady minister and professional mixer of the holy and profane, one Michael Huckabee, the only candidate on the docket LESS qualified than Obama.
Oh well, the American people get what they deserve in the end. Saying Obama (or Huckabee or whoever) tricked us is just shifting the blame away from voters, who are supposed to inform themselves fully before casting a vote. There was NOTHING in his record that indicated that he seeks bipartisan solutions or that he was going to take the country anywhere but far left. Rhetoric is so much more telegenic than records though.

Posted by: Poseur de Questions | March 12, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am

Obama is a liar…plain and simple. He likes earmarks that is why he signed the bill, he likes lobbyists that is why he hired so many, he likes scams that is why he has done so many———-but Obamabots and their “reporters” still are making excuses for this slime of a man. Stop making excuses for this pig——stop believing the liar when he speaks—-watch what he does. He is a very bad person.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am

HONK, HONK, HONK! I LOVE YOU mmonroeliveson! Somethings never change, right?

Posted by: enaid32444 | March 12, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am

What you see on the news ( and who you see as our leaders) are only the face the elitists want you to see. There is a shadow government that goes all the way back to old European royalty. That’s just the way it is folks. Obama has a beautiful family that he loves very much. Do you understand what I’m saying?

Posted by: facelessnameless | March 12, 2009, 11:03 am 11:03 am

The new rules are the same as the old; you’re darn right they are…the president had me fooled for awhile- all that nonsense about the right to pursue happiness. Now that the stimulus bill has passed the so-called “community initiative” programs have started up again. The local military now has a financial incentive and directive to carry out their campaigns of harrassment against their neighbors and the ones on political hit lists. Barack Obama you are a fraud. Demotte IN you are a fraud as well.

Posted by: champagneflowsdispite | March 12, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Oh blah.. blah blah blah blah… got nothing really to report so I’ll make something. blah blah oh blah

Posted by: moeb | March 12, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am

My New English friend Steve in NH,
The Left constantly plays the blame game and rarely takes accountability and personal responsibility. Ayn Rand was right.
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Dear Poseur,
Accountability and Personal Responsibility -
I think you hit the nail on the head. I don’t think that particular disease is limited to the Left, is it? I can think of one far, far right radio talk show host who lawyered his way out of a felony, as an example.
Otherwise, I couldn’t agree more – accountability and responsibility are key. Loved it when Obama said “I screwed up”.
Speaking of which, time to get to work…. ;)

Posted by: Steve From NH | March 12, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

They say one thing to get elected, then the boys in Washington show them how things are done. Nothing ever changes. Obama was either lying or painfully naieve. Either way, he was less than honest with his campaign promises and rhetoric. It’s not like we didn’t know this already here in Ohio with his NAFTA two step, and talking out of both sides of his mouth, promising us to renegotiate a make it a more “fairer deal” while telling the WTO that the status quo was just fine… Pastor Wright was Right: “He’s just another politician”, nothing more…

Posted by: hmn... | March 12, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am

you poor people – your lack of knowledge or anything else only confirms what the rest of the world thinks of this country. americans are whiners complainers and mean spirited and I forgot selfish! americans are children – it’s too late for you.

Posted by: cjr | March 12, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Silky, you scare me! you embody everything that I think is wrong with this country!

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

…quite a synopsis by our media “analysts”…..some give us the GOP crap, others the Democratic pitch…very few around who speak for “Americans.” Oh well, President Obama could have saved us from some of the grief associated with the latest “Earmark” caper if he had only followed my advice. When the hew and cry went up over the pork in the “bill which should have been finished up and voted during the previous administration”all Obama had to do was bring Bush back on a short contract basis as President Pro Tem or something similar and let him finish up this rat’s nest. When completed, Bush’s short term return would be completed!
I really don’t think we should be electing anyone who says “ooohhh…it’s not in my job description….can’t blame me”…..until we get some “Americans” elected to our Washington crowd, this beat will go on and on and on and on and on…and….and…”that’s all folks!”

Posted by: justj joey | March 12, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am

Geece, is it a crime to be rich? Is it a crime to get paid more because you work harder and longer? How about we be fair—-and everyone pay the same percentage in taxes? BTW, socialist/marxist that Obama is and is pushing doesn’t work–the really rich just hide their money with their army of accountants and lawyers which just leaves the middle class and higher lower class—YOU KNOW WORKERS—that stuck with the case increases.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am

There is no one else who can do the job, but Obama–so support him. Who do you want Rush Limbaugh? Sarah Palin?

Posted by: paula Wesley | March 12, 2009, 11:10 am 11:10 am

Instead he chose to get something done — a compromise that the president admits is “imperfect.”
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What an intelligent move by President Obama. Finally a bright, thoughtful President of ACTION for the greater good of the country.
Certainly the President would admit “it’s imperfect”-there IS no “perfect” solution, especially given the depth of the current national economic challenges. Obstructing and continued circular debate stalls the inevitable.
Given the huge debacle inherited by the last administration, a President who’s willing to dig in and try sound, informed decisions is exactly what we need.

Posted by: LeRoyScott is a cross-eyed inbreed | March 12, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am

Obama has been part of the Washington scene for many years as Senator and had additional expereince with the system as a Chicago politician. He just lied to his supporters in order to get elected. He lied about lobbyists, ear marks, deficit spending, openness in government and almost everything else. one termer.

Posted by: brian | March 12, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

PS…..would one of our “analysts” give us a complete blow-by-blow description of what Obama has written in the margins of passed legislation which he has signed and made law? Shades of Bush…..the beat goes on.

Posted by: justj joey | March 12, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Obama needs to be impeached..and tried for fraud.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am

“I have a friend who went to Mexico last week (small fishing/tourist village south of Cancun), and the army got into a shooting match down the road from where he was staying.”
I assume you’re talking about Playa del Carmen? Was this drug-related? I haven’t heard about any drug-related violence on the Yucatan.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Obama is a regular politician after all. That change stuff was all mularky!

Posted by: Tom | March 12, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

First, everyone should realize that it’s primarily Congress’ duty to get it’s house in order. Second, the Supreme Court ruled a number of years ago that a President doesn’t have the power of a line-item veto over bills passed by Congress. The President must either accept the bill as sent to him by Congress or he must veto it (outright or pocket veto). In this case, a veto would have brought the government to a standstill just because 2% of the bill consisted of earmarks. Of course, Congress could have rewrote the bill to remove the earmarks, but that seems to involve a lot of wasted time and effort, when so much needs to be done to save our country from the mistakes (intentional or otherwise) of George W. Bush. President Obama made it clear that it wouldn’t be business as usual with respect to earmarks in the future, and I believe him. Of course, it would help if we could stop the party of earmarks, the G.O.P., from attempting to obstruct everything President Obama tries to do. Well, guess what, we can do it in 2010 by voting as many Republicans out of Congress as possible. The, the Democrats in Congress and President Obama could simply ignore the “Party of No” and concentrate on repairing our economy, etc.

Posted by: caliguy55 | March 12, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Obamabots and their “reporters” still are making excuses for this slime of a man. Stop making excuses for this pig——stop believing the liar when he speaks—-watch what he does. He is a very bad person.
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Why do wingnut dullards constantly use reference to peccary in their posts?

Posted by: gus amaral | March 12, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

No washington has not beaten down Obama – he would have to have been up first.
8 billion dollars in ear marks every program the dems wanted for years.
All this could have been fixed in minutes had the dems wanted to do it.
Obama lied about what he would do as president.
I for one feel sorry for him as well as the American people. The Dems are running the country not Obama – he has become their front man and will in the end take the blame for all of this.
The sad part of this is he could have been great, one of the best. The first black president rank up there with best we ever had. If he continues to be nothing more than front man and affraid he will, he will go down in history as the president talk the talk but didn’t have the guts to walk the walk.

Posted by: A citizen | March 12, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am

I’d take either Palin or Rush—both are much more brighter than Obama and I seriously doubt either would have just robbed the American people like Obama has with all his spending on nonsense.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Silky is a paid Obama blogger. A socialist Marxist to boot.
Whatever Silky.
You hero is a liar!
“No earmarks. Line by line. No lobbyists in my administration…”
Obama lies and lies and lies
Obama spends and spends and spends
He is out of his league, as are you, Silky.
Wheels falling off Obama’s wagon soon, Silky?
What a disaster the first fifty days Obama-fools.
Sooner or later, you WILL figure it out.
Unless you are welfare-losers Obama caters to

Posted by: Sam Adams | March 12, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am

Face it, Obama is a puppet who’s masters paid big bucks to get him in so he could help waste taxpayer money to help repay them. Obama has done nothing but make things worse since being in office despite all his campaign lies.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

“Silky, you scare me! you embody everything that I think is wrong with this country!”
Explain.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Obama and the truth do not seem to be compatible.
The man can’t stop spending or lying.
Is Obama on drugs?

Posted by: John Hancock | March 12, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Poseur de Questions -There was NOTHING in his record that indicated that he seeks bipartisan solutions or that he was going to take the country anywhere but far left. Rhetoric is so much more telegenic than records though.
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You are absolutely right – Shame on me for wasting my precious vote! I’ll never do it again.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

All you bloggers who accuse Obama of bringing socialism to America do not plan to take your social security checks..do you? Social security is a tenet of socialism..Also medicaid..you dumb people..all you do is criticize obama and you don’t have an alternative or solution for the mess that George W left us..Go read a book and learn something..by the way can anyone tell me of any Republican administration/president that left office with this country enjoying a surplus and a balanced budget? I can answer for you…NONE! I can tell you of three Democrat Presidents who did..Bill Clinton being one of them. What does that tell you..It tells me that the Republican economic policies do not work and trickle down economics is as George H Bush described it “VOODOO ECONOMICS”. That is what have us in this current situation..George W and his voodoo economics..Now all of you want Obama to change in 50 days the MESS that took George Bush 8 years to create. GET A LIFE AND LEAVE BARACK ALONE!

Posted by: Stanley | March 12, 2009, 11:18 am 11:18 am

cjr….cjr….cjr…..takes one to know one, I guess.

Posted by: justj joey | March 12, 2009, 11:19 am 11:19 am

To all the Republican bloggers on this site, “CRACK IS WACK” leave it alone.

Posted by: Stanley | March 12, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am

“I’d take either Palin or Rush—both are much more brighter”
Early nominiee for post of the day.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Stanley – VERY POOR ARGUMENT!
I’ll just take the back my Social Security payments for the past 35 years along with the interest that I could have made in a passbook savings account. That should ge me past retirement.
P.S. Obama’s plan is just plain ole Kensyan economics. It has never worked, never will.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am

dave, your brain damage becomes more and more apparent every day. I hope you are getting the help you clearly need. I’m not kidding.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am

“Your rhetoric, especially the use the term “socialism accusations” makes me believe that you believe socialism is a bad word although you unknowingly support increased socialism in action.”
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Mr.Poseur,
especially pour vous -
Read between the lines:
liberalBOWELsocialistMOVEMENT

Posted by: vertigo | March 12, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am

“P.S. Obama’s plan is just plain ole Kensyan economics. It has never worked, never will.”
So, you think there’s precedent for the scenario we find ourselves in?

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am

The comments of a lot of these posters are what I was saying last year, but couldn’t get anybody to listen.
I supported NEITHER McCain NOR Obama last year because they both were Washington DC insiders. I fully understood that President Bush had an approval rating of about 25-27 percent and had to go. However, what both parties put up as their replacements were candidates from a Congress that had an EVEN lower approval rating (15-17 percent) than Bush, and that’s saying something. This is the equivalent of trying to replace a 4-12 NFL team with players from the 0-16 Detroit Lions and claiming it is a Hall of Fame replacement.
The only reason I even gave Governor Palin a second look was because she truly was a “not Washington” candidate. However, she ultimately proved to be a “not ready for prime time” player, as well.
The only real winners in the last election were the entrenched Washington establishment and those that support them. Real change–I still doubt it….

Posted by: MNResident | March 12, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am

“Silky, you scare me! …you embody everything”
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Agreed.
Silky *IS* the be all, end all.
Jesus told me.

Posted by: vertigo | March 12, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am

Ha, it took much longer than 8 years for this mess to happen. Its been going on for close to 30 years. As as far as voting for Obama, McCain would of been Bush #2. Same old, same old. The people that are actually running for political office have so many favors to give out by the time they get to that position, its just ugly. Plus the majority of people in office are Lawyers. That means they live off other peoples money and don’t produce anything themselves. Try to get these lawyer-politicians to change laws that are in their favor (no earmarks, term limits, no lobbists), good luck.

Posted by: Spiderman | March 12, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am

No, he has been beaten down by the absolute incompetence that everybody saw except his cult followers. And by the way, it’s going to get a lot worse.

Posted by: rplat | March 12, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Posted by: Lewis | March 12, 2009, 11:35 am 11:35 am

He was not beaten down. President Obama simply decided to play along with the politicians that have made Washington the disgusting pit of greed in America. So he is no different than the rest of the untrustworthy politicians that work there.

Posted by: Lara | March 12, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Spiderman; What about the biggie, tort reform. Can you envision our congress ever making an honest effort at tort reform? Ambulance chasing has become a legal profession specialty.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am

vertigo…your jib is couture-worthy.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

Stanley, Clinton had a republican congress and was despite all his faults still not a marxist. Obama’s “plans” have been played before—–and Marxism has always destroyed the nations it invaded.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

“Face it, Obama is a puppet who’s masters paid big bucks to get him in so he could help waste taxpayer money to help repay them.”
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English as a second language?

Posted by: gus amaral | March 12, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am

And Stanley, Clinton had one other thing going for him……Clinton was not a total idiot, Obama is.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am

THIS IS NOT BUSH’s mess anymore. The markets already rallied in November/December, and the worst case scenario was already factored in. But then came Obama…Treasury Secretary who didn’t pay taxes, and other appointees. The treasury department needs to appoint 17 deputies…guess how many they have appointed? NONE. American’s were fooled by the media into believing that a man who has never held a real job can be CEO of USA. Pres. Obama does not have it, FACT!!

Posted by: nobias88 | March 12, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

“No, he has been beaten down by the absolute incompetence that everybody saw except his cult followers. And by the way, it’s going to get a lot worse.”
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Talking about Rush Limbaugh in this manner is not very nice, Patriot.

Posted by: vertigo | March 12, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am

Amy: Please send Dave some of your mood pills so he won’t be happy and won’t be sad. You did bring enough of those so everyone could have one didn’t you?

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 11:46 am 11:46 am

“And Stanley, Clinton had one other thing going for him……Clinton was not a total idiot, Obama is.”
Do you mean to say that Clinton is “more brighter” than Obama?

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 11:47 am 11:47 am

If this is the best and the brightest republicans have to offer..it makes the case for dismantling the party..I swear every day the ramblings get worse, harder to follow, less logical, and more screechy. my advice is to drink more, talk less and listen in between..and if you are not going to use you ears or brain..donate them to science..save a monkey…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am

“Marxism has always destroyed the nations it invaded.”
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Marxism *invades*?
Is Marxism like, a really mean visigoth
dude?

Posted by: surfer guy | March 12, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am

No more earmarks for as long as the wind blows and the grass grows.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Gus, I’ll repeat it for you. Obama is a puppet (he’s to dumb to have snuck in on his own.) Some people with some huge money made it possible for Obama to get in on purpose, and in return Obama has been paying them back by increasing taxpayer spending on completely ignorant things—hence Obama giant spending packages so quick. For instance, Obama was snagged taking multiple ILLEGAL foreign donations from the Gaza strip, and two of the first things he has done was give Gaza Hamas (a terrorist organization) $20.3 million in a special presidential fund to relocate their supporters (here) along with another $900 million to help Gaza. Do you see why Obama has been spending so much. You probably should be wondering how likely Americans are to be killed by these relocating nuts—you know the group that cheers when their members strap bombs to their own children to kill other peoples children. BTW, you may want to research Soros run on the banks 9/15/08 in order to create a financial crisis here, which in turn, scared American voters. It was a classic marxist/socialist RULES FOR RADICAL PLAY—-create financial crisis to scare people enough to accept marxist changes (which ALWAYS makes the invaded country’s economy worse and chases jobs away.)

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am

Stop looking at the President as a super man, consider these factors, 8 weeks in office, inherited the worst economic crisis in this country history, surrounded by a clan of republican nay sayers.
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Lewis, in 8 weeks Obama has made more mistakes in the economic front than Bush did in 4 years. Fortunately for BO and the Democrats, the media is keeping it quiet. And he is not surrounded by Republicans…WH, Congress, Senate are all Dems. How can someone who has not held a real job, has no management experience be in-charge of the greatest country in the world?

Posted by: nobias88 | March 12, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am

Marxism invades——-it can easily be compared to a Cancer or Foreign Army. It is very bad, and always destroys the nations it invades. ALWAYS.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:55 am 11:55 am

Posted by: Herbert Wetherby | March 12, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Thankfully we have a President that’s willing to make intelligent decisions.
I am standing by the President.

Posted by: Jerri | March 12, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Any leader with ANY sense would have taken this fight to the American people and asked for help. Americans wuold have responded. Instead, the man I voted for cozied up with cronies.
Instead of porking up some grevious infrastructure, do nothing bill. Our leader could have asked for voter’s help in recalling the 7.65% Fica withholding. This would give every worker a 7.65% raise. It would also give every employer a 7.65% addition, per employee, to the bottom line. Print the money to help the unemployed.
Challenging times call for exceptional leaders. I thought that was how I voted.
Nope Bobo is just more DC waste and rhetoric as usual.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 11:57 am 11:57 am

Silky wrote: Do you mean to say that Clinton is “more brighter” than Obama?
No Silky………..It could be said that Clinton is much brighter, but not more brighter. If you are going to be a self appointed grammar policeperson, then you will need to do better.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am

“Obama is a puppet (he’s to dumb to have snuck in on his own.)”
You, PresGov, are the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

bwaahahahahaha…Jerry. And what supposedly intelligent decision has Obama made exactly?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

PresGov
You are incredibly paranoid. Your reality orientation is questionable.
..been screened for schizophrenia?

Posted by: Dr. Krileyev | March 12, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

“No Silky………..It could be said that Clinton is much brighter, but not more brighter. If you are going to be a self appointed grammar policeperson, then you will need to do better.”
I was quoting you, Einstein.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

What are we gonna do now. Join the hedge funds. The very same people that stole the money in the first place. Stupid!

Posted by: mercury57 | March 12, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

Obama is a Fraud…he shouldn’t be in the White House, he should be in jail with Madoff.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

I’m not the grammar police, I just love irony and a good hypocrite.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Posted by: Jerri Thankfully we have a President that’s willing to make intelligent decisions.
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Where is that President? And how do we go about replacing Bobo with this President?

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

Silky, nice try hun, but no that is not what I said. I said Clinton, unlike Obama, was not a total idiot. “More brighter” is your choice of words, but do play again.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Silky, you are just desperate and will try whatever to cloud that Obama is an idiot and fraud.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

Silky Wrote: I’m not the grammar police, I just love irony and a good hypocrite.
Are you sure you didn’t mean to say that you just love to be ironic and a good hypocrite?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm

While most are here dissecting the “headline of the day”..the president has to look at the big picture…over the long haul..and that is he is going to need the congress tosupport him in all that HAS to be done to pull the economy out of this..While my inclination was to slap the S### out of all of them and veto the bill, its not in the best interests of the country in this period of time…to P*** them all off…remember its both the dems and the repubs who have a stake in those earmarks..repubs took their share..The president at this time has 2 options..he can veto the budget bill, or he can SUGGEST changes..he does not AT THIS TIME..have the power to do a line item veto…fact..so what would he have gained ,to take a stand at this time, with so much on his plate, that he will need co-operation for..now he has some chips to play..smart man..me, I would have told them to stick it in their ear..so its a good thing i am not pres..Mr. President…gamed em..

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Obama needs to go………….it should be obvious to even the most ignorant among us by now, that is a giant fraud that lied his way into the White House and is now abusing the office to rob American taxpayers. Gun Sales up, and Jobs are down because this moron was able to fool alot of people.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Every day there are more elephants in my living room.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

I’d take either Palin or Rush—both are much more brighter than Obama and I seriously doubt either would have just robbed the American people like Obama has with all his spending on nonsense.
Posted by: PresGov | Mar 12, 2009 11:15:36 AM

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Cow, the right answer, if Obama was even remotely honest or moral, would have been to send the bill back demanding that it be fixed—-YOU KNOW HIS JOB AS LEADER, NOT A FLUNKY.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

“Silky, you are just desperate and will try whatever to cloud that Obama is an idiot and fraud.”
He’s definitely not an idiot. That much is obvious. Whether he’s a fraud or not remains to be scene. Ultimately, I don’t care if he is a fraud. I just want things to get better and I do think that that is his goal. Whether or not he is a “fraud” in accomplishing that is something I care very little about. In this case, I believe the ends with justify the means.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

If we are giving him a grade…I’d say he has accomplished a great deal in less than two months. I would give him an “A” but will give him a “B+” due to the fact that he signed this stimulus bill. However, I think there will always be earmarks in bills. Even Mr. Graham, republican had earmarks and said if the bill did not pass, he would add his earmark to the new bill, so it won’t be easy to fight this problem but eventually, I think President Obama will reduce them. I think he will be a great president.

Posted by: talmag | March 12, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Silky, is it supposed to be some sort of insult to chose Palin (who has more experience leading, balancing a budget, no terrorist ties, and has run her state SUCCESSFULLY) or Rush (who is 20 times more intelligent than Obama, but then again who isn’t?) over Obama? I’d take Donald Duck over Obama at this point. With either Palin/Rush, our markets would be up, we would have more jobs in the economy, less terrorists out and planning our deaths (Obama has been giving terrorists US taxmoney, and working to turn them loose) and we as a nation would be much better off.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Im glad to see all the people standing behind our president, hoping he gets this country straight. As bad of a president as Bush was, I never seen a democrat say I hope he fails. In fact, there were times when dems disagreed with him, but rallied behind him because he was the president. Now all of a sudden, people are hoping the president doesn’t fix the country. So you would rather suffer, and see your fellow countrymen suffer, then to see a black democratic president turn things around. I dont get you repubs. It is almost sickening that the republican party has stooped to such a low. Where are their morals. Where is the love for country. They are already trying to win in 2012. The sad part is that it is backfiring on them. I mean with a 75% approval rating, a filabuster proof senate and a house majority, you can’t stop him. Lets go Obama. With or without limbaughs idiot groups support.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

Tal, well who cares what an Obama supporter gives Obama—some people are just dumb. Economists in the Wall Street Journal give Obama an F (grade of 59) for his efforts on the economy.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

cowgirl; He really can’t accomplish anything without the co-operation of congress. This piece of legislation could be interpreted as a statement from congress that its entrenched politicians are the ones who really run this country and it’s his job to do what they say. That’s a problem unless we all truly adhere to the principle of voting for other than the incumbent forever.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

“With either Palin/Rush, our markets would be up, we would have more jobs in the economy, less terrorists out and planning our deaths (Obama has been giving terrorists US taxmoney, and working to turn them loose) and we as a nation would be much better off.”
Wow.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

I’d give Obama a negative -59, seeing as how doing nothing would have been better than spending trillions like he has, but then again, I trade stocks all day so what would I know about economics, job losses, and business.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Excuse me…Rush is not more intelligent than our President. He is divisive, rude, and I wonder why no one has called him up on some of his remarks like they did Imus. He has made some racially unflattering remarks over the time i.e. maybe you should take the bone out of your hair and call me back.” No one called him up or wanted him to give up his job. Double standards, I think.

Posted by: talmag | March 12, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

ABC hates me. They won’t let me post my brilliant rebuttals. The heck with that.

Posted by: Amy in Maine | March 12, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

Funny, how the markets crashed since Obama has been elected. Markets are forward looking, and they see Obama as bad for America and the economy which translate into bad for jobs, retirement, and 401 k’s. As I said even with Rush and certainly with Palin—-we would have been much better off than this lying fraud Obama in economics. Obama’s foreign policy is even worse—and Obama’s people saying he is overwhelmed (code for he is clueless.)

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Obama needs to go………….it should be obvious to even the most ignorant among us by now….PresGov..apparently, the MOST ignorant amongst us gets it…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

“I trade stocks all day so what would I know about economics, job losses, and business.”
Yeah, day traders are brilliant. lol. You are a mess, my man.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

Amy, they are trying to block me today too..

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

Tal wrote: Excuse me…Rush is not more intelligent than our President. He is divisive, rude, and I wonder why no one has called him up on some of his remarks like they did Imus. He has made some racially unflattering remarks over the time i.e. maybe you should take the bone out of your hair and call me back.” No one called him up or wanted him to give up his job. Double standards, I think.
Tal—Yes, Rush can be Rude at times, but he is certainly much much smarter than our short bus rider Obama. Don’t kid yourself on this. I don’t know what you are rambling about with the call unless you referring to how dumbly and UNPROFESSIONALLY that Obama has been attacking any that speak out against him such as Rush, Santelli, and the NY Post’s reporter. It is very reministic of Hitler and his Fascist goons attacking dissenters.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Cowgirl: Accomplishment is usually precieved as FORWARD progress. I haven’t seen that happen in the Bobo admisistration.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Cow ignorantly retorted after being cornered witht the facts: Obama needs to go………….it should be obvious to even the most ignorant among us by now….PresGov..apparently, the MOST ignorant amongst us gets it…
Cow, why do you Bot constantly resort to childish name calling? Between these schoolyard tactics and of course the lies and race cards, shouldn’t your own tactics make you think twice about who you support. If you supported a decent person, you wouldn’t be using these tactics.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

I have a potbelly pig I call rush …that could run circles around..the fatter rush…mentally as well as phisically…and hey i think the pair of rush and palin are the perfect poster children for your party..keep talking..you are helping our cause to show how irrational and delusional your side is…thanks for the christmas present

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

“I sit under the bridge and booze all day, so what would I know about distilling whiskey.” — Farfel, the hobo
“I drive a 1976 Datsun 210, so what would I know about designing Aston Martins? — the fry guy at Burger King
“I shoot dope all day, so what would I know about the international heroin trade.” — Sid Vicious

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Silky, must you get everything wrong? You wrote: “I trade stocks all day so what would I know about economics, job losses, and business.”
Yeah, day traders are brilliant. lol. You are a mess, my man.
Hun, I am a woman.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Presgov, the stock markets were artificially high under president Bush. They have come back to reallity under President Obama. Anyone who thinks the stock market should have grown as fast as it did under Bush, should have probably let Bernie Madoff handle all of their profits. Stacks are just speculation. It not actual value. Staocks aren’t actual value until you cash them out. When the money is in your bank account and not someone elses. So all these people who say they’ve lost this or lost that. no you didn’t. reallity is you never had what you claim you lost. Three years ago, If everybody cashout their stocks, wouldn’t have been enough money to pay everybody. That means it was artificially high.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

“Don’t kid yourself on this. I don’t know what you are rambling about with the call unless you referring to how dumbly and UNPROFESSIONALLY”
You are a gift from blog heaven, PresGov.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

Cow childishly wrote: I have a potbelly pig I call rush …that could run circles around..the fatter rush…mentally as well as phisically…and hey i think the pair of rush and palin are the perfect poster children for your party..keep talking..you are helping our cause to show how irrational and delusional your side is…thanks for the christmas present
Cow, seriously a fat joke? And you think this clever and a reason to ignore a speaker who states unflattering facts about Obama? Bwahahaha, truely pathetic and so Obamabotish.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm

Jay, markets indicate what the markets are expected to be………………the sell off as Obama won or stole the election (you know Acorn) is very telling, those who understand business, profits, and jobs see Obama as beyond bad for the US economy. This is simply a FACT, despite the bot spins.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Presgov, if i say Presgov is a homosexual serial killer, who dated Jeffrey Dahmer for a while in the 80′s, would you just sit back or would you speak out against me. If what I’m saying is a lie, then you should speak out against me. That is all Obama is doing when he speaks out about people. The reason Bush never spoke out is cause he knew what they were saying was true. Obama is just speaking his side of things. You, exercising his first amendment rights.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Fat jokes are always fair game.
“Obamabotish”
I’ll tell you what…99 out of 100 words that the less, less brighter contingent of the Republican party make up thinking they are being clever just make them look super deluxe special. However, put this on a shirt and I would wear it.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

the vietnam pot belly pig club is organising a march on washington to protest the defamation of pigs everywhere by the close resemblance to rush L….they are much cleaner, make better pets, can be house trained, and other than the snorkeling noises..share no family tree with mr. rush

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Jay, the markets weren’t artifically high under Bush—–they reflected the profits that companies were making at the time and were expected to make. Once Obama got elected in, the market began to sell off at an almost unheard of rate along with massive job losses (businesses were laying off people preemptively also expecting business to die under Obama.)

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

presgov, those who understand business sold off and took their profits because they knew Obama would shut down corporate corruption. They knew that the markets where higher then they were supposed to be, so they broke with what they already had.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

“Jay, the markets weren’t artifically high under Bush”
I’m beginning to think that somebody is having some fun with us.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Silky, the fact that the bots think personal attacts instead of factual attacks is completely acceptable is in itself telling, but to try to defend such is much more pathetic. It gives new meaning to the words Koolaid drinkers. Cow, how in the world do you we get identical dysfunctional brain patterns in one posting day unless you and Silky are one?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

PresGov..IF you are a woman, and i seriously doubt that…you are a VERY lonley woman…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

BTW, Obamabotish translates literally into 1) Fascist and 2) Absence of sound thought process.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

presgov..the only way you know about dysfunctional brain patterns..is if you are looking at your OWN cat scan…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

Jay wrote: presgov, those who understand business sold off and took their profits because they knew Obama would shut down corporate corruption. They knew that the markets where higher then they were supposed to be, so they broke with what they already had.
Nonsense Jay, why would corrupt anyone be scared of Obama—–look at Obama’s cabinet. It is full of crooks and cheats, not to mention Obama’s little scams and paybacks such as with Rezko. Corrupt individuals love Obama—-he has a HISTORY OF EASY BUY OFF…(he is a typical chi-town politician and has behaved as such.) Then you have Obama’s advisors especially in economics who are also known crooks like Freddie and Fannies Raines and Johnson.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

“Silky, the fact that the bots think personal attacts instead of factual attacks is completely acceptable is in itself telling”
Oh, we’re capable of both. I know, I know…how elitist it is to do two things at once, but we do it anyway. How French.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Hey there is a you tube video 2007 with Jim Cramer talking about how he manipulated the markets as a Hedge fund manager..Its great, he said, yea its against the law, but the SEC isn’t bright enough to catch it..I hope they nail his sorry a## to the wall, he is going up against Stewart thurs nite..aght to be fun

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Jay, for instance take our super sized crook—-Bernie Madoff, infamous for the giant Ponzi scheme…..he is both a big time demmie and Obama supporter. Crooks love Obama.
http://politicalvindication.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bernard-madoff-contributions.gif

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Bwahahah, Silky….and what facts have you brought to the board then EXACTLY?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Posted by: jayandersonjr those who understand business sold off and took their profits because they knew Obama would shut down corporate corruption.
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Those that I know, including me got out of the stock market because of NO CONFIDENSE in Bobo administration and the policies of a liberal agenda.
The lack of checks and balances ( i.e. Democratic President, Republican Congress) undermines the expansion of capitalism in many views.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Its funny how the 25% that disagrees with President Barack Husein Obama, If I can say his whole name,(Hope that dont make yall mad)manage to always find their way to the blogs. It doesn’t matter what he does, it will always be wrong. If he eliminates the entire debt, the say he could have done more. If he was to pass a bill that eliminated world hunger, repubs would say, “if he just focused on our country, we would be eating steak instead of chicken.” Lets just face it, the man can do no right in yall eyes. But when is all said and done, there won’t be a better president.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

So, what is it today..are we A) Faschist B) Socialist or C) Marxist????Or are we a MarSoFastist…bar

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Oh and Jay, then you have all those terrorists that support Obama—-I just don’t see anyone with morality problems being worried about Obama. It would seem Obama has surrounded himself with such people as his friends, allies, business partners etc.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Cow, like his father, Obama is offically a Fascist Marxist.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Madoff donated to both sides, like all crooks, they cover their bases..Try including ALL the facts ….

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

No common sense in DC, do you mean confidence, with a C, not a S. I dont have “confidense” in nobody. Any republican who is against Obama is a hypocrit. He got more consevative ways then liberal. He’s reducing taxes for godsake. What dem does that. Oh, but I bet thats a problem to. huh.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Actually Jay, Obama’s whole legal name is Barry Muhammad Hussein Soetoro. His Barrack Hussein Obama name was legally changed at the time of his adoption to his step father in Indonesia.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Barrack Hussein Obama is in actuality an Alias. Just about everything about Obama is a fraud, lie, and scam which alarms intelligent people.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

presgov..you mean his father wasn’t a muslim too???? Or maybe a minimalist muslim..or maybe he was just and M and M

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Jay, and what taxes do you think Obama is reducing exactly?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

“But when all is said and done, there won’t be a better president.”
I second that emotion. President Obama has the right stuff. Let the complainers pick and pick, I think we are finally moving forward and Obama is doing a great job.

Posted by: Amy in Maine | March 12, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Now that we know about Barracks father, Pres Gov…could you tell us about your father??like did you know who he was??Was he from THIS planet, Was he already a member of your family??? was his name perhaps Jeffrey Doehmer??? Did your father eat a family member of mine??? In law we call these interrogatories…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

After the last 8 years, nobody should dislike Obama.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm

Jay, Marxist always claim they are reducing taxes when they aren’t. They chase away the rich or the rich just join the party of leader so they don’t pay…..what happens is the marxist increases spending (Obama) to repay their buds (Rezko, soros, hamas, etc) that got the marxist (Obama) in and to repay useful idiots (the lazy drug addicts, lazy union workers) at the very very bottom for votes and thug support—————-eventually the bill comes in, which leaves only the working class (not even just the rich working class) to get their taxes raised and raised to match the spend and spend. What is funny is that classes like the UNION don’t realize that the Marxist leaders tax tax tax scam scam scam policies always come back and bite them in the butt too. In the end, marxists despite their promises to help workers wind up killing economies and lowering everyone’s standard of living.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Wow, I say his whole name and all the racist come out. I dont have time for this ignorance. goodbye.

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

“Barrack Hussein Obama is in actuality an Alias.”
__________________________
Geodon is a great drug, PresGov/Dave.

Posted by: Dr. Krileyev | March 12, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

“Jay, and what taxes do you think Obama is reducing exactly?”
Well, if you had a job and paid taxes, your take home per week would be increasing by about $13 per week, effective April 1. It was unprecedent how quickly he is getting this implemented, actually.
Do you actually…y’know…read the news?

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

Posted by: jayandersonjr | March 12, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm

With marxist you have to watch the hidden taxes that marxist like Obama lie about and rename. Take this Cap and Trade nonsense. It’s a hidden tax that is going to hit everyone, but especially those at the bottom (but Obama’s supporters are to dumb to figure it out.) See it is a new tax that Obama and Gore will be profiting off of themselves, while everyone in the US will be seeing a minimum 40% higher electric and gas bills. Not to mention, that all business will be raising their prices for goods such as you know food and medicine to cover their own higher costs for it.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

jayandersonjr: sorry about the typo.
Bobo is NOT a conservative. Is he less conservative that Pelosi or Reid or Dodd? Who knows? They continue to push him around. Frankly, I’d rather have an arrogant Cowboy.
This is Obama’s mess. He needs to clean it up. He just does’t have the jewels or the experience to break from the rat pack.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

“…to repay useful idiots (the lazy drug addicts) at the very very bottom for votes and thug support—–”
___________________________
Do not poke fun at Rush Limbaugh’s addiction to drugs. He needs help from his suffering. He also needs help with his relationship issues with women.

Posted by: Dr. Krileyev | March 12, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

“Barrack Hussein Obama is in actuality an Alias.”
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yessireee. I dun did heard he wasn’t born neither.

Posted by: Festus in Texarkana | March 12, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Posted by: jayandersonjr |After the last 8 years, nobody should dislike Obama.
_______________________________________
I already long for the “good ole” Bush days, when I had a job, stock market gains, a 401(K) with worth and I felt safe from harm when I went to sleep at night.
I wish I had NEVER voted OBAMA!

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Silky, in regards to your $13 a week…..are you really so unknowing? First off, read the cap and trade comment I made…the $13 a week won’t even cover the Cap and Trade tax that the working class is going to get hit with. It isn’t even going to come close hun. Secondly, where do you think Obama is going to get the money for all of his spending exactly? Obama’s line about taxing the rich which he constantly redefines doesn’t make number sense hun. In other words, Obama is lying again.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Festus, before you start rambling off about something, might I suggest you do a web search. Obama was adopted out, and at that time, he has his name changed hence his school records in the name of Barry Muhammad Hussein Soetoro and hence his own reference to this name……….Barrack Obama is legally an alias. I am sorry that you don’t like the facts.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

NoCommonSense….anywhere

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

Silk, for instance……Obama has already voted to raise taxes on those making over $43,000 a year as a senator. He never found a tax increase he didn’t like. Secondly, if you look at his mortgage deduction that he wants, it affects those making less than $250,000 earner that he so demonified. In other words, Obama lied about increasing taxes just on the wealthy, but yet bots such as yourself don’t get it. You think Obama is like Santa Clause and he is going to give welfare class all these freebies that he obviously can just pull out of his bottom.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

I would just love for 1, just 1, republican to show up here with an argument that was worthy of a rebuttal, instead of a statement that only calls for them to be the butt of a joke…its been amusing, but not informative..

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

If we are gonna talk averages here, let’s go ahead and do it. In April, the average worker will take home about $13 per week or $56.29 per month.
Because of cap in trade. His utility bill (if all electric) will increase about $35 per month. His gasoline bill will increase by about $40 and due to transportation fuel cost increases will raise food prices by about $100 per month. Making this guy $118.71 poorer tham before.
WERE EXACTLY IS THE TAX CUT?

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

I can’t believe the bots are claiming that obama has to back down to congress as a defense for his part in defrauding taxpayers. Is your defense for Obama, now that he is just a weak leader that can be easily pushed around?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Yeah, day traders are brilliant. lol. You are a mess, my man.
Hun, I am a woman.
____________________
You one a’ them thar transvestites?

Posted by: Festus in Texarkana | March 12, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

To jayandersonjr: You say about Bush that you “never seen a democrat say I hope he fails…” Just because you didn’t see it doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened. Democratic mouthpieces James Carville and Stanley Greenburg said they hoped Bush failed less than 8 months after Bush first took office and the very morning of the 9/11 attacks. While both were quick to say that the attack changed everything and their comment should be ignored, their intent was immutable. Pundits and strategists have cast stones and pointed fingers since the party-system began. Let those without sin….

Posted by: older&wiser | March 12, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Silky; $13/wk….yahoo! We’re in the high cotton now.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Silky; $13/wk….yahoo! We’re in the high cotton now.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

Cow, despite Obama’s father being a substance abuser like obama (and it eventually leading to his father’s first amputations then death due to DUI in two different car accidents) and his father’s nonsupport for his own children and having multiple children by multiple wives, Obama idealized his father in unrealistic ways. Many children of dysfunctional adults become good liars and crave power. Obama and Jim Jones both have almost identical dysfunctional upbringings and as adults sound the same and both collected their own group of kool-aid drinkers. In the end, Jim Jones ask his nutty followers to kill themselves and children which they did.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm

“You think Obama is like Santa Clause and he is going to give welfare class all these freebies that he obviously can just pull out of his bottom.”
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Is this comment directed at the elves, or the reindeer?

Posted by: gus amaral | March 12, 2009, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

Heheh, you so clever Fetus. Who would have thought a bot would resort to a personal attack and goofy name calling instead of arguing issues? (Sarcastim is on)

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

Obama needs to go, and most of congress needs to be in prison.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

“…Barrack Obama is legally an alias. I am sorry that you don’t like the facts.”
______________________
Who needs high school diplomas or law school?
A GED, along with a middle school diploma, a case of beer,
and a driving need to hold onto ignorant misconceptions is all you need to be RIGHT.

Posted by: gus amaral | March 12, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

Speaking of the $13 a week—–I have a warning for all of you to avoid being fined by the Irs. Apparently, Obama screwed up AGAIN and the way the law is written if you and your spouse work and have both of your HR departments listing you and your spouse as MARRIED FILING JOINTLY……………….GO HAVE IT CHANGED or you will owe money at the end of the year. Obama set it up that the employers will give you back twice what the Irs will allow.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 1:56 pm 1:56 pm

If you look at Bobo’s “Tax cut for 95% of Americans”, it is actually a limit of $250,000 per married couple. In real terms that is $125,000 per person (unless the liberal party wants to discriminate against married couples).

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

President Obama is a wonderful president. Lets’ give him a chance.
I am. I believe in my country and it’s citizens.

Posted by: carole | March 12, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

PresGov: you are exaclty right.Bobo fumbled the HR1 law (imagine, a HARVARD lawyer). It does read “$250,000 for married filing jointly.
He should never have signed this into law. Makes him look like a big, fat LIAR!

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

Obama needs to go…I don’t know which is worse….Obama being a marxist scamming taxpayers, or the fact that he is just a complete moron very likely to get many of us killed with support of muslim terrorists.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has projected that the financial effect of compliance through trading within the Kyoto commitment period will be ‘limited’ at between 0.1-1.1% of GDP among trading countries.[23] By comparison the Stern report placed the costs of doing nothing at five to 20 times higher. So you think the rest of the world can do this and sign on..but we alone can not afford it????

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

Obama must go…..he is an idiot leading idiots.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

Steve from NH. In 1972 I learned that the law enforcement agencies from local to federal were involved in the drug trade. They handled the drug boom like prohibition. Can’t fight it so might as well get a piece of the action. That’s why it’s still illegal, that’s why smugglers are able to get it into the US and distribute it once it’s here. That’s also the reason our borders remain porous. I have no personal interest these days in drugs or prostitution but in the interest of doing the common sense thing why not legalize control and tax both since they’re obviously here to stay? People will get what they want and someone will be willing to take a chance on getting it to them as long as there’s a market and money to be made. Supply and demand 101.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Carole,
Obama is a lying loser from the capital of corruption. Lobbyists, Tax Cheats, No Earmarks. Spend, spend, spend.
You need professional help, you are clearly not well.

Posted by: Sam Adams | March 12, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

True story: My one year old niece was sitting next to the radio when Rush Limbaugh came on. Next thing you know, my brother heard the channel change to music. He looked over and my niece was grinning ear to ear at him – she had turned the dial all by herself! Poor Rush, his problems with the female sex start pretty young. And that’s how I feel about right wingers in general these days: just turn the channel, baby.

Posted by: Amy in Maine | March 12, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

So 0-bama is a LIAR. He says it so well, though. He is such a wonderful speaker and such a nice young man…

Posted by: Liberal Loser | March 12, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

“If we are gonna talk averages here, let’s go ahead and do it. In April, the average worker will take home about $13 per week or $56.29 per month.
Because of cap in trade. His utility bill (if all electric) will increase about $35 per month. His gasoline bill will increase by about $40 and due to transportation fuel cost increases will raise food prices by about $100 per month. Making this guy $118.71 poorer tham before.
WERE EXACTLY IS THE TAX CUT?”
First…where are you getting your projections.
$13 a week isn’t enough to get you a new Bentley, monroe, but it’s enough to ease some of the burden for people on the brink. It’s also more beer for me, which is also stimulation for the economy. It is a tax cut, which is what Einstein was saying wasn’t going to happen. It’s not only happening, it’s happening in record time.
There is also a new $2500 credit available to parents of college students. You know…those evil educted types.
There’s also the COBRA revisions for both consumers and corporations.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Amy,
You will change your tune when the Democrats have no more welfare money to give you!
See you then…
Obama will be broke one day at this rate. It’s just that simple.
But have a good time with hero worship anyway :)

Posted by: John Hancock | March 12, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

“Obama needs to go, and most of congress needs to be in prison.”
And you need to be institutionalized.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

PreGov..you haven’t had a coherrent thought since you have been on here…your ramblings are indicitive of mental illness..you can’t get facts straight, you are wobbling out there on the white line..please step to the side of the road and then..one step back..ah yes, the ditch, now you are shovel ready

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Cow, first off…..global warming being caused by Co2 man made is a scam. We are actually in a cooler period, not to mention those pushing this nonsense have been snagged just flat out lying about facts—such as “losing the ice sheet that is bigger than the state of California while using the ice sheets are melting to scare people, closing of whether reporting centers in cooler parts of the world (primarily areas controlled by russia) which is skewing the average world temperature, and my favorite where Nasa was just finally forced to admit that they have been lying about the temperature records in regards to the 98 major lie for global warming—-that in fact, that the 30′s were much warmer. BTW, common sense should have told people that this was a scam–you know most would assume the obvious that the solar flares during 98 would be the must likely culprit of the short term slight temperature spike and that since the flares have since died down and the earth has entered another cooling cycle that the sun was most likely the reason not Co2 espeically since the earth has been much warmer many many many many many many many times before.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

The only people who support 0-bama are losers looking for a welfare handout.
This is becoming more clear every day with all of Obama’s lies.
No lobbyists, no earmarks.
Tax cheats everywhere.
It’s obvioius why people support 0-bama.

Posted by: Paul Revere | March 12, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Cow, if you think I have gotten any facts wrong…please feel free to cite a pacific facts instead of your empty name calling and indenudo and I will be happy to cram a link up your way.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Silky, are you really this cluelss? Sure obama is going to give $13 a week in your paycheck, but then he is raising taxes on everything else such as Beer so you will actually being paying more.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

cowgirl; I’m not a republican but I’ll give you a valid argument. If the wealth of America is redistributed to the poor people won’t that just redefine poor? There will be a whole new set of people that are poorer than those who were rescued from poverty.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 2:18 pm 2:18 pm

Obama needs to go, and most of congress needs to be in prison.
No matter how right you may be with that statement, it will never happen until hard-working, productive Americans do something about it. As long as we continue to do nothing, this socialist disease will continue to spread.
I suggest looking at http://www.newamericanteaparty.com. They are forming a non-partisan, 10 million person march on Washington beginning April 15, 2009.
If you are “fed-up” with the DNC and RNC pitting Americans against Americans in order to advance the party’s agenda, join with me, and let’s reclaim “America – One nation under God, with liberty and justice for all:.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

“We are actually in a cooler period”
Unless, of course, you listen to everybody in the scientific community not receiving a paycheck signed by a Rep lobbyist. The cooling period is independent of the global warming phenomenon.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm

Cow, come on…you can’t tell me you haven’t wonder why all these global warming events cancelled for snow haven’t made you stop and think that there might be something wrong with thinking it was warming when there have so many extra snow storms. You know like the snowing in africa cancellation, or even when all those people were freezing to death in Kentucky just a few months ago. At my house this year we have had snow 3 times…….and we never get snow. My electric company reports that the last months have been about 5 degrees cooler this year over last, and that last was cooler than the previous year. You know a pattern of cooling….
In regards to your naive comments about being able to pay for the cap and trade scam, first off, we really can’t afford (and you are wrong, many other countries are saying they can’t afford it either even though they support the cap and trade nonsense), and secondly, even if we could afford the Billions to be wasted—it’s a scam. What type of idiots gives money to a scam?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

Silky:There is also a new $2500 credit available to parents of college students. You know…those evil educted types.
_______________________________________
This is one change I whole-heartedly agree with. You obviously need more education, before experience and reality get the best of you.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm

“Silky, are you really this cluelss? Sure obama is going to give $13 a week in your paycheck, but then he is raising taxes on everything else such as Beer so you will actually being paying more.”
Everything else, huh? Please cite real things.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Silky, there is NO PROOF OF WARMING. None. So the scammers do two things, they cite a computer model (that they flooded with wrong information making the model faulty), and they quote supposed experts that aren’t really experts. You know like using UN people who specialize in studying people in climates that change instead of climatogolists who many despite the check writers and the threats from powerful scammers flatly say the warming being due to Co2 man made is nonsense.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

“Silky, are you really this cluelss?”
I really love that everytime you call somebody stupid, there is some sort of grammatical, syntax, or factual error in the sentence. You are making my day.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Correction..It should say there is no evidence of the Warming being caused by Co2 or man made.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Silky, I don’t have the time to worry with my posts being grammatically correct….you forget I am trading stocks as I post. I am working and typing on the side.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Monroe, it will make sure we don’t loose the middle class as they become the “new” poor leaving us with only 2 classes, the haves and the have nots..It takes a middle class to make the economy work successfully..A level playing field is what is necessary, you make more..you pay more, you make less you pay less. Being poor incentifies people to better their circumstances..In my case …I am going to PresGovs house and rob her..LOL

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Average daily temperatures have actually been on the decline since 1998, while Al Gore’s annual income and electric bills have been on the increase.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Facts are that CO2 is actually a lagging indicator not cause of global warming. As the planet warms—-usually due to shifts in the earth’s orbit and solar out put, the warming weather causes water to warm which release trapped carbon in both water and perma frost so the historically data shows higher Co2 FOLLOWING WARMING PERIODS NOT PRECEDING IT.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

I used to wear a tee shirt with a picture of a whale on it. The whale was inside a red circle with a horizontal slash through it. The caption read “No save the whales. Harpoon a fat chick today.” It drew a lot of attention and criticism, mostly from fat chicks.
bWAHAHAHA….SOUNDS LIKE YOU LIKE ATTENTION FROM THE FAT CHICKS. (just kidding….I remember those shirts..they were rude, crude, but funny.)

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

cowgirl…I am going to PresGovs house and rob her..LOL.
Then you have removed even one more class and are left only the have-nots – I think they call this Libia.

Posted by: No Common Sense in DC | March 12, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

OK,Gov..what happens when the polar ice and glaciers melt???? Initially, it cools the oceans (weather)our polar ends of the earth control our climate -so we don’t fry…and why are they melting soooo fast??because of warming, so what happens when the melting glaciers are gone..Gov..is an egg in a frying pan…soon to be a fossil

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

“Silky, there is NO PROOF OF WARMING. None. So the scammers do two things, they cite a computer model (that they flooded with wrong information making the model faulty), and they quote supposed experts that aren’t really experts. You know like using UN people who specialize in studying people in climates that change instead of climatogolists who many despite the check writers and the threats from powerful scammers flatly say the warming being due to Co2 man made is nonsense.”
Right, because scientists are all about making things up. It being science and all. NEARLY THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY considers global warming real. And even if there’s a little bit of doubt, isn’t it worth *giving* the benefit of the doubt on something so potentially disastrous? Have you bothered to view An Inconvenient Truth yet?

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

“Silky, I don’t have the time to worry with my posts being grammatically correct….you forget I am trading stocks as I post. I am working and typing on the side.”
Yeah, most of us are working.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

As we speak ..Jim Cramer is on Martha, rolling “dough” get it…. and looking scared #hitless that Martha is going to bean him with her rolling pin..he is getting a little edgy…his time is coming and so is any other “stock trader” who shall remain nameless …that could be heading for the ultimate “welfare” prison….

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

cowgirl; Call me crazy but I believe it takes people of all classes to make the economy work. Somebody will always be in charge and all the others will always be following their orders and right on down the line all the way to the guy who has nobody to boss around. Employers and workers all contribute to the economy. Everyone should work for whatever they get unless they’re disabled. Our government needs everyone’s support. It’s fantasy to think that educating everyone will make them all rich. Rich is a relative term just like poor is a relative term. There will be haves and have nots as long as we have an organized society. The have nots will always want what the have have and the haves won’t be willing to give up the station in life they’ve achieved by whatever means. Being educated gives people the tools to succeed but many lack the drive to succeed. Some are contented to have just enough to get by. It’s the nature of mankind.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

PresGov…come on..fess up you are really playing monopoly with funny money in an institution somewhere…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm

We could always just make a new formula for determining what constitutes poor people. Americans are spoiled!

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Monroe, countrys like russia and china for instance…previously had no middle class..now they have a middle class…now they are prosperous…simple deduction

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

…who is Obama supporting…the middle class…where does the middle class come from???? Capitalism….ergo..Obama must be “OH NO” a capitalist…there go our good socialist neighborhoods…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Is obama gone yet?

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm

Cow, countries like russia and Ching did not get a middle class until they embraced capitalism. Socialism/Marxism is very bad for the middle class.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Buried in the bill President Obama just signed is a PAY INCREASE for CONGRESS. How nice, they vote themselves a pay increase while Americans are losing their jobs with no hope for employment in the foreseeable future. President Obama is spending money lavishly on entertainment in the White House that is not being reported to the American people who cannot take their children to MacDonalds for dinner out.
The American public is wearing 3 and 4 layers of clothing to keep warm and President Obama cranks the heat up in the White House so he can walk around in shirt sleeves and his wife can walk around in summer frocks in the dead of winter.
He flies Air Force One on frivolous campaign trips when he should be realizing that he has been elected and now he must do the job.
I would like President Obama to publicize what his expenditures have been, year to date, for food, utilities, transportation, entertainment and the like. He is not being the watch dog for the American People he said he was he is simply spending our money for his own personal gratification and ego.
He could have vetoed the bill but he did not that means he does not plan on changing the status quo in Washington but he does plan on lowering the quality of life of middle America and INCREASE GOVERNMENT and INCREASE THE PUBLIC WELFARE ROLLS.
His legacy will be worse than President Bush of whom he is blaming for everything wrong. It is sad because he has hindered the ability of other non-white Americans to be elected to the Presidency. He DOES NOT have the backing of the majority of Americans, that is merely is press team saying it often enough in hopes that people will believe them. He needs to wake up and stop being a politician and start being a President.

Posted by: Beulah | March 12, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

Pres..did you actually comprehend what i said..i tried to make it so simple a fifth grader could understand and yet you still blew it..reread…who is Obama supporting…the middle class…where does the middle class come from???? Capitalism….ergo..Obama must be “OH NO” a capitalist…there go our good socialist neighborhoods…

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm

presgov..I think you are getting a welfare check every month and have deluded yourself into thinking that check is coming from some wall street firm…good luck with your treatment, maybe a stemcell transplant could help you..some socialist medicine

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Beulah..now there is a good ole southern name..the best part of every day is when i shut the computer off and smile..knowing the dumbest people in the room are NO LONGER in charge..We spoke during the election, you lost, goodbye

Posted by: cowgirl | March 12, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Cowgirl; The people have no human rights in either Russia or China. The government decides who gets to prosper and who gets to be the dregs of society. Besides, Russia’s not doing very well economically. Their crime rate, drugs, prostitution, kidnapping, rape, murder. violent crime is astronomical because of mafia control. Seriously, the problem isn’t class warfare in America. Our deeper problem is our economic base. We’re no longer able to push our manufactured trash on other nations. Instead we’re buying theirs. The problem is lack of jobs with a tangible product. That’s why the middle class is disappearing in the US. The rich have pulled their money out of investments in industry because they weren’t getting the return an investor should receive. They are invested in other economies across the world. Can’t blame them for that.That’s how they’re getting richer while the poor are getting poorer. The manufacturing that made us great is practically gone. What’s left isn’t competitive with foreign manufacturers. Pay attention. Don’t make me tell you this again.

Posted by: mmonroeliveson | March 12, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

Russians chicks are hot.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Cow, what in the world makes you think Obama supports the middle class? Because he says he does? He is a liar, he is a marxist. Marxist by nature always lie about supporting the middle class when in fact they support their few buddies at the top being ubber rich while taxing the middle class to death in order to obtain funds to continue to keep the uber rich rich and buy support from the USEFUL IDIOTS at the bottom—-you know you. Obama is nothing new……………..a repeat of many egotesitical drug using marxists.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

Ahh, yes.
Russian literature,
Russian vodka…
the BEST.

Posted by: gus amaral | March 12, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

In every instance of marxist socialist, they spend spend spend—-business see the light and flee or atleast cut down on their expensese and jobs—-then they start the taxing. The taxes always hit the working class the very hardest.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm

“..a repeat of many egotesitical drug using marxists.”
___________________
egoTESTICLE?

Posted by: vertigo | March 12, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

“..Besides, Russia’s not doing very well economically. Their crime rate, drugs, prostitution, kidnapping, rape, murder. violent crime is astronomical because of mafia control.”
_______________
This sounds like Vegas

Posted by: vertigo | March 12, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

“…Obama cranks the heat up in the White House so he can walk around in shirt sleeves and his wife can walk around in summer frocks in the dead of winter.”
________________
Ok. this post wins my vote
for both “Most Popular”
and “Most likely to Succeed”

Posted by: gus amaral | March 12, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm

All of you aught to be ASHAMED! Obama inherits the WORST America since the Great Depression, and two months in, you all expect miracles? FDR they said was creating a socialist America. Did that happen? NO. And it NEVER will.
Bush screwed us all (except his rich cronies), and we still gave him another 4 years. After LESS than two months we turn on Obama?
I REALLY hope when our economy starts to turn around in a year or two, or even 3, that all of you give credit where credit is due!
He has already made our Country, a much more credible and honorable member of the International Community (and the Human Race).

Posted by: Clyde | March 12, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

Sing it, Clyde.

Posted by: silky | March 12, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm

Posted by: Herbert Wetherby | March 12, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm

Obama doesn’t have the guts go against Washington politicians. Obama is not a leader. He is Pelosi’s puppet.

Posted by: CW | March 12, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm

Obviously this was written in am and hopefully the writer watched Obama with the Business Roundtable this afternoon — sure beats the usual “sound bites” coming from the same ole, same ole.

Posted by: paulet | March 12, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

EgoTesticle marxist…….bwahahaha…sure sounds right.

Posted by: PresGov | March 12, 2009, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Posted by: PresGov | Mar 12, 2009 12:37:34 PM
“Hun, I am a woman.”
_________________________
Could have fooled me! With the ‘Junk’ you’ve been slinging and the ‘Trash’ you’ve been talking ……. “It ALL Smells so MANLY.”
It’s difficult for me to ‘get in touch’ with an intelligent woman, who would be so crude as to alter someone’s “User Name” (“cowgirl”) – to the point of “mocking” the person!!! Your contribution to the discussion today, earns you a “C” for Quantity, “D” for Quality and a resounding “F” for Content. Now how does that Performance Grade compare to that of Our New President, whose been on the job for 52 Days? (35 Days, allowing 8 Hours sleep daily.) I guess that’s the reason he STILL has a Job Approval Rating of 60% – as rated BY THE PEOPLE.
Lastly your Behavioral Analysis of President Obama, indicates you are NOT ONLY intellectually inept, you likely have sufficient psychological issues, that you may want to consider Serious Evaluation as soon as possible.

Posted by: bobj72 | March 12, 2009, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Bye bye. I’m outta here for good.

Posted by: ambergis | March 12, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm

Posted by: PresGov | Mar 12, 2009 11:15:36 AM
You said; “I’d take either Palin or Rush— …….”
______________________
I am humbled…… Please accept my apology, I DO understand!

Posted by: bobj72 | March 12, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm

is there any one in the state of lincoln whos paid there taxes its a shame what democrats have done to this poor state embarassment a state shamed

Posted by: david reyes | March 12, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm

bobj72…
Right on.
Whenever I see someone call Obama a “marxist”…
I laugh.
It may be unkind to laugh at the merely or unfortunately ignorant, yes — but at the WILLFULLY ignorant … it is a joy!
<<<>>>

Posted by: dassis | March 12, 2009, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

All politicians have to face reality. To get to the position they are at they made huge promises. Their friends are not the bloggers nor the typical citizen that voted for them. Their real friends are the ones with the money that helped elect them. Bankers, Lawyers, PACs, Corporations and people with mass sums of money. The typical citizen has been duped into believing the election hype by highly paid professional writers. This has occured for many election cycles and its becomming more evident as we see what the current set of politicians actually do in office. The main stream media is becomming unreliable on political analysis because of their evident bias, and because of that they a poor source of information. This means the unknowledgeable and non-interested public rules the vote since they won’t do the research necessary for a informed vote. So we are stuck in this ugly cycle of bad politicians. If there is a way to change this pattern I would like to know, but I can’t see it.

Posted by: Spiderman | March 12, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm

Spiderman….
Unfortunately, your negativity gets in the way of objective reasoning.
We currently have a more informed and involved electorate than ever. The internet alone is evidence of this; the ability to do in depth research with just a few key strokes is phenomenal.
The main stream media is called that because it is representative of the majority opinion.
It seems YOU don’t agree with the majority and that is totally your right in America, but please stop denigrating that majority in some backwards “class argument”.
Having said that — I do agree that it is not as common as one would hope to find a politician that escapes the lure of “retaining power and position above all else” …. do you think YOU would?
If so, please run for office. Walk a mile in those shoes, then pull out the stones and throw them.
That is the way to change the pattern, by the way — YOU take a step. It is called personal responsibility.
Just a thought.

Posted by: dassis | March 12, 2009, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm

Why are we giving the right wing fringe any credence? They have real NO solutions, just criticisms. Kick the bums out!

Posted by: Angie | March 12, 2009, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm

The man INHERETED the absolute worst economy since the Great Depression and the wingnuts want you to believe this mess should be fixed by now. They’re becoming so irrelevent it’s not even funny.

Posted by: Again? | March 12, 2009, 7:39 pm 7:39 pm

Dassis…their minds are too simple to understand such complexities. That’s why they rely on Faux, um…Fox News to tell them what their opinions should be.

Posted by: DanaDoRight | March 12, 2009, 7:42 pm 7:42 pm

Again? – “The man INHERETED the absolute worst economy since the Great Depression”
—————————————
Far from it. Obama is an idiot! Keep drinking the Koolaid.

Posted by: Geeeez | March 12, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

I just don’t get this. President Obama has only been in office for 50 days. He inherited two wars and the worst economy in decades. How about we at least give him another 50 days before we are so certain the he sucks. As for the whole socialism fear, it may come as a shock to some of you, but there are some of us that think some socialism is needed. The banks and large (deeply in debt) corporations don’t seem to mind either.

Posted by: Michael Davis | March 12, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm

Instead of always citing Lincoln and Kennedy and FDR, and trying to make us think he has their strengths, Obama should grow up and start modeling himself after another Democratic President, Harry Truman. You know, “The buck stops here” Harry Truman.

Posted by: Babs | March 13, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Some opinions please–Which person, or persons,in a well run restaurant,should be the most highly rewarded. The boss the head chef, or the waitresses? Please do not be hasty,and think honestly and carefully.

Posted by: charlie in florida | March 13, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am

Charliein Florida…the customer…(other)

Posted by: cowgirl | March 13, 2009, 12:49 am 12:49 am

Charlie, since I..the customer..am paying the salary of all 3…I should get the most reward,– a decent meal, at a decent price, with decent service.

Posted by: cowgirl | March 13, 2009, 12:53 am 12:53 am

Charlie…If you are going to force me to choose between the 3 you listed..this is my answer..the boss has the most skin in the game…however without a really good chef,and a terrific waitress(friendly great service)He is going to lose everything he has invested…so i say..Pay your quality workers a top wage ..and they will make you money..even in a shabby building- in not a great location,- people will talk up a good food joint…they will probably never see the owner….and the size of his reward will be in porpotion to the quality of his employees

Posted by: cowgirl | March 13, 2009, 1:29 am 1:29 am

Posted by: david reyes | Mar 12, 2009 6:42:52 PM
You said; “is there any one in the state of lincoln whos paid there taxes its a shame what democrats have done to this poor state embarassment a state shamed …….”
________________________
Please pay close attention… The obviously tedious and concentrated effort you put into your comment contributions… creates “White Noise!”

Posted by: bobj72 | March 13, 2009, 3:11 am 3:11 am

Who promised over and over that he would “go line by line and eliminate all wasteful spending?” OBAMA 2008

Posted by: Deborah | March 13, 2009, 4:23 am 4:23 am

Bob, and whatever other name you go by…what are you babbling about? I haven’t altered anyone’s name…I have no need to..I can argue facts straight up unlike the Bots. But do play again.

Posted by: PresGov | March 13, 2009, 5:45 am 5:45 am

Posted by: PresGov | Mar 13, 2009 5:45:28 AM
You; “I haven’t altered anyone’s name…I have no need to..I can argue facts straight up unlike the Bots. But do play again.” ……
______________________________
“Pre Go” who is “cow?” Great way to begin the ‘argument of facts straight up.’ (Let’s begin with a ‘slap-in-the-face?’ – Rude & Classless distractions gain you NO POINTS!) Interesting you refer to political discourse as “play.” To some, the seriousness of this activity was ‘couched’ in the admonition; “3 things Never to discuss in ‘polite company’ Politics, Religion and Sex.” Now most of us realize the seriousness of ‘where we are as a societ.’ And that does require an open responsible, bipartisan discussion to begin the correction/s needed. (This is a bit uncomfortable, directing this to a woman but your approach to the activity here, really seems….. so cavalier.)
Posted by: PresGov | Mar 13, 2009 5:45:28 AM

Posted by: bobj72 | March 13, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Thanks all-Interesting observations. This is my first in this blog. I see little in the way of constructive thinking, mostly bickering, which is an incredible waist of time. Cowgirl, thanks for your deliberation, and to the responders, thanks also, for your thoughts and opinions. All equally valuable.
Charlie

Posted by: charlie in fla | March 13, 2009, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

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