Was there anyone that we didn’t apologize to?
Was there anyone who didn’t hear the “Bad bad bad USA” schtick?
Posted by: drjohn | April 19, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am
The takeaway quote:
‘”I’m grateful that President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old,” Obama said, to laughter and applause from the other leaders.’
Quick to defend himself but not his country.
Cover up Jesus and then quote Jesus. Do not let Jesus compete with the glory of the Obama.
The usual narcissism from Obama. It’s a disease.
Posted by: drjohn | April 19, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am
The most interesting thing the President said in his speech was this-
“I think it’s important to recognize, given historic suspicions, that the United States’ policy should not be interference in other countries, but that also means that we can’t blame the United States for every problem that arises in the hemisphere”
He should explain what he means when he says the “United States’ policy should not be interference in other countries”.
Aren’t we currently trying to ‘interfere’ with the internal affairs of DPRK, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc…? It seems the President does not understand that his job is to put AMERICA’s interests first, and if it means ‘interferring’ in another nation’s affairs, so be it.
It then seems clear Obama is saying that Communist or any other revolution in Latin America is their own business, in any circumstance. That certainly is 180 degrees from White House policy for the past 100 yrs.
I guess that also means that Obama is saying the U.S. should not be interferring in Sudan (Darfur), Somalia, Rawanda or anywhere else…oh, that’s right. We’ll make an exception for genocide.
Posted by: J House | April 19, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
drjohn, you raise an interesting point.
How much can you blame individuals within a country for the actions that their government takes?
Are we collectively to blame for the debacle in Iraq, even when tens of millions of US citizens protested against it?
Americans tend to compare administrations, yet ignore the state.
If we have failed to dislodge the corporate control of the state, and made our government responsive, are we individually and collectively to blame for every mistake, historical and recent?
Worth pondering.
Posted by: Flash Override | April 19, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Reminds me of the ABC debate when Obama dismissed his cozy relationship with Bill Ayers.
He called it rediculous or something like that–because he was only 8 years old when Ayers bombed the pentagon.
I do believe Obama was a grown man when he kicked off his career in Ayer’s living room.
But voters bought it…
Posted by: ricky | April 19, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am
The President and Mr. Chavez seem to have alot in common-they both like to bash America and its former president.
There is one big difference-Chavez has undeniable proof he ws born in his own country.
Posted by: J House | April 19, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
J House:
For your information, any person born in anyone of the 50 states of America irrespective of the nationalities of the parents is considered an American born US citizen. So by this definition, President Obama is as American as Uncle Sam.
Posted by: pBen | April 19, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
It looks like the evasive antics of Obama and umpteen ugly about-face from election rhetoric that would be normally considered as lies to win the Whitehouse chairs, is paying off over and over again.
Duped and conned public could well give him another four years ignoring the uglier public debt burden we and our future generations are being loaded with.
I thought only those in India are fools to carry the burden of 140 mil islamic extremists dumped on them in 1947 despite two homelands for their barbaric cousins exporting anarchy like Charles Taylor of Liberia now in jail of the Hague. We see more and more subverted fools all around, dont we?
The big difference between Obama and Chevez-Morales leadership is that former is a member of the minority ruling the majority, while other two are indigent majority being still persecuted by white spanish settlers who are exploiting them to this day; hence, the growth of leftist agenda in Latin America where the church has done little or nothing to lift people out of poverty.
Bush encouraged Obama (during their sit down) to take care of Columbia’s trade agreement.. this didn’t get a lot of press, then or now.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | April 20, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
“There is one big difference-Chavez has undeniable proof he ws born in his own country.”
J House is a birther?
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Ryan C | April 20, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
“He called it rediculous or something like that–because he was only 8 years old when Ayers bombed the pentagon.”
He was 8 years old when that happened.
But right wingers insisted he was a terrorist.
“I do believe Obama was a grown man when he kicked off his career in Ayer’s living room.”
You mean when Obama was a guest of Alice Palmer because the party was for her?
All the right wing has is fear and lies.
Because the right wing “solutions” have brought us to the mess we have now.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 20, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
“It then seems clear Obama is saying that Communist or any other revolution in Latin America is their own business, in any circumstance. That certainly is 180 degrees from White House policy for the past 100 yrs.”
Because CIA backed coups, financing right wing death squads along with an arrogant attitude that the US can do as it pleases have won us so much respect in the region.
The stupidity is mind boggling.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 20, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
RyanC,
I didn’t say it was wrong…I said it was a complete policy shift, and you made an example that agreed with that,
correct? (CIA coups, RW death squads, blah,blah)
So,now that you agree it was a complete policy shift from America’s ‘bad-boy’ past in Latin America, why is the President’s rule of ‘non-interference’ any different anywhere else?
By the way Myanmar has a policy of ‘non-interference’ too.(As in, stay out of our business, as does Sudan).
So, is the President going to ‘walk the walk’ everywhere else, or not?
Posted by: J House | April 20, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
This President needs to practice the rule of ‘non-interference’ at home, not just abroad-
As in, ‘I as President will not interfere in a criminal case involving former WH officials and torture’.
Or,” I will not cover up the fact that a member of Congress tried to influence a criminal case for political contributions and the previous and my WH tried to bury it’. (I would also include the former US president and his AG for that one)
Posted by: J House | April 20, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Aye, RyanC,
I also said that about Chavez and Obama’s birth in jest…
I take the President on his word that he was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. (that is all I have to go on…what do you know? Haven’t yet found the link to the PDF of his original birth cert.,you know, the one with your little feet imprints on it?)
Wouldn’t a reporter like to see his mother’s passport though just to clear things up and blow all these ‘birther kooks’ out of the water?…is that any greater a state secret than the Bush ‘torture’ memos?
If it shows she was in Hawaii on that date (she certainly wasn’t in school), we’re all good to go, right?
It would also dispute his own relative’s accounts of him being born in Kenya on that date, right?
Posted by: J House | April 20, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
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Was there anyone that we didn’t apologize to?
Was there anyone who didn’t hear the “Bad bad bad USA” schtick?
Posted by: drjohn | April 19, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am
The takeaway quote:
‘”I’m grateful that President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old,” Obama said, to laughter and applause from the other leaders.’
Quick to defend himself but not his country.
Cover up Jesus and then quote Jesus. Do not let Jesus compete with the glory of the Obama.
The usual narcissism from Obama. It’s a disease.
Posted by: drjohn | April 19, 2009, 10:38 am 10:38 am
The most interesting thing the President said in his speech was this-
“I think it’s important to recognize, given historic suspicions, that the United States’ policy should not be interference in other countries, but that also means that we can’t blame the United States for every problem that arises in the hemisphere”
He should explain what he means when he says the “United States’ policy should not be interference in other countries”.
Aren’t we currently trying to ‘interfere’ with the internal affairs of DPRK, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc…? It seems the President does not understand that his job is to put AMERICA’s interests first, and if it means ‘interferring’ in another nation’s affairs, so be it.
It then seems clear Obama is saying that Communist or any other revolution in Latin America is their own business, in any circumstance. That certainly is 180 degrees from White House policy for the past 100 yrs.
I guess that also means that Obama is saying the U.S. should not be interferring in Sudan (Darfur), Somalia, Rawanda or anywhere else…oh, that’s right. We’ll make an exception for genocide.
Posted by: J House | April 19, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
drjohn, you raise an interesting point.
How much can you blame individuals within a country for the actions that their government takes?
Are we collectively to blame for the debacle in Iraq, even when tens of millions of US citizens protested against it?
Americans tend to compare administrations, yet ignore the state.
If we have failed to dislodge the corporate control of the state, and made our government responsive, are we individually and collectively to blame for every mistake, historical and recent?
Worth pondering.
Posted by: Flash Override | April 19, 2009, 11:07 am 11:07 am
Reminds me of the ABC debate when Obama dismissed his cozy relationship with Bill Ayers.
He called it rediculous or something like that–because he was only 8 years old when Ayers bombed the pentagon.
I do believe Obama was a grown man when he kicked off his career in Ayer’s living room.
But voters bought it…
Posted by: ricky | April 19, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am
The President and Mr. Chavez seem to have alot in common-they both like to bash America and its former president.
There is one big difference-Chavez has undeniable proof he ws born in his own country.
Posted by: J House | April 19, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
J House:
For your information, any person born in anyone of the 50 states of America irrespective of the nationalities of the parents is considered an American born US citizen. So by this definition, President Obama is as American as Uncle Sam.
Posted by: pBen | April 19, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
It looks like the evasive antics of Obama and umpteen ugly about-face from election rhetoric that would be normally considered as lies to win the Whitehouse chairs, is paying off over and over again.
Duped and conned public could well give him another four years ignoring the uglier public debt burden we and our future generations are being loaded with.
I thought only those in India are fools to carry the burden of 140 mil islamic extremists dumped on them in 1947 despite two homelands for their barbaric cousins exporting anarchy like Charles Taylor of Liberia now in jail of the Hague. We see more and more subverted fools all around, dont we?
Posted by: Miriam Epstein | April 19, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
The big difference between Obama and Chevez-Morales leadership is that former is a member of the minority ruling the majority, while other two are indigent majority being still persecuted by white spanish settlers who are exploiting them to this day; hence, the growth of leftist agenda in Latin America where the church has done little or nothing to lift people out of poverty.
Posted by: Miriam Epstein | April 19, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Bush encouraged Obama (during their sit down) to take care of Columbia’s trade agreement.. this didn’t get a lot of press, then or now.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | April 20, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
“There is one big difference-Chavez has undeniable proof he ws born in his own country.”
J House is a birther?
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Ryan C | April 20, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
“He called it rediculous or something like that–because he was only 8 years old when Ayers bombed the pentagon.”
He was 8 years old when that happened.
But right wingers insisted he was a terrorist.
“I do believe Obama was a grown man when he kicked off his career in Ayer’s living room.”
You mean when Obama was a guest of Alice Palmer because the party was for her?
All the right wing has is fear and lies.
Because the right wing “solutions” have brought us to the mess we have now.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 20, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
“It then seems clear Obama is saying that Communist or any other revolution in Latin America is their own business, in any circumstance. That certainly is 180 degrees from White House policy for the past 100 yrs.”
Because CIA backed coups, financing right wing death squads along with an arrogant attitude that the US can do as it pleases have won us so much respect in the region.
The stupidity is mind boggling.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 20, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
RyanC,
I didn’t say it was wrong…I said it was a complete policy shift, and you made an example that agreed with that,
correct? (CIA coups, RW death squads, blah,blah)
So,now that you agree it was a complete policy shift from America’s ‘bad-boy’ past in Latin America, why is the President’s rule of ‘non-interference’ any different anywhere else?
By the way Myanmar has a policy of ‘non-interference’ too.(As in, stay out of our business, as does Sudan).
So, is the President going to ‘walk the walk’ everywhere else, or not?
Posted by: J House | April 20, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
This President needs to practice the rule of ‘non-interference’ at home, not just abroad-
As in, ‘I as President will not interfere in a criminal case involving former WH officials and torture’.
Or,” I will not cover up the fact that a member of Congress tried to influence a criminal case for political contributions and the previous and my WH tried to bury it’. (I would also include the former US president and his AG for that one)
Posted by: J House | April 20, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
Aye, RyanC,
I also said that about Chavez and Obama’s birth in jest…
I take the President on his word that he was born in Hawaii on August 4th, 1961. (that is all I have to go on…what do you know? Haven’t yet found the link to the PDF of his original birth cert.,you know, the one with your little feet imprints on it?)
Wouldn’t a reporter like to see his mother’s passport though just to clear things up and blow all these ‘birther kooks’ out of the water?…is that any greater a state secret than the Bush ‘torture’ memos?
If it shows she was in Hawaii on that date (she certainly wasn’t in school), we’re all good to go, right?
It would also dispute his own relative’s accounts of him being born in Kenya on that date, right?
Posted by: J House | April 20, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm