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Apr 18, 2009 11:51am

Judge Rejects President Obama’s ‘State Secrets’ Argument

As a case against President Bush for withholding documents about allegedly illegal wiretapping became a case against President Obama for withholding documents about allegedly illegal wiretapping, President Obama has once again assumed the same "state secrets" arguments as his predecessor.  And a judge that rejected the argument under Bush yesterday rejected the argument under Obama.

In the case, Al-Haramain v. Obama, (formerly Al-Haramain v. Bush) the leaders of a now-defunct Islamic charity, allege that the National Security Agency under President Bush engaged in illegal warrantless wiretapping.

In 2004, while preparing to defend the charity — which had been placed on the government’s terrorist watch list — the charity’s lawyers accidentally obtained a document indicating the wiretapping had taken place.

The lawyers returned the document and have ever since been denied the ability to obtain it again to use it to show the charity had been allegedly illegally wiretapped.

The Bush administration had argued that the document could not be "disclosed without causing serious harm to national security," even if the plaintiff’s lawyers are given access to the document under secure conditions after extensive background checks.

U.S. District Chief Judge Vaughn Walker denied the Bush administration’s argument repeatedly. The Obama administration repeated the same "national security" argument in February, and yesterday Judge Walker said that the government "should now comply with the court’s orders" to hand over the documents.

Justice Department spokesman Matthew Miller says the department is "reviewing the judge’s order."

Despite opposing the Bush administration’s repeated use of the "state secrets" argument as a candidate, President Obama has shown a proclivity for making the argument himself since becoming president. It has tried to block a civil suit brought by detainees alleging a private company helped the U.S. government conduct extraordinary renditions, as well as a case against the NSA for allegedly illegal wiretapping.

Last month in Salon, one of Al-Haramain lawyers, Jon Eisenberg, wondered "Have Obama’s people really decided to continue traveling the Bush path of abusing the state secrets privilege — perhaps for reasons of political expediency — or do they just need more time to get up to speed on the Al-Haramain case before they start doing the right thing? We wait to see. And we wait to see how Judge Walker responds to these latest outrages by the Bush — oops, I mean the Obama — administration."

– jpt

User Comments

I may support Obama but that doesn’t mean he is right about everything. But even with those disagreements he is still a whole lot better than the republicans.

Posted by: unshrub | April 18, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

We wait to see. And we wait to see how Judge Walker responds to these latest outrages by the Bush — oops, I mean the Obama — administration.”
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It would be funny Jake, but I am not sure it is an outrage. It is only one judge. The State Secret Doctrine has been upheld numerous times, perhaps in this case it doesn’t apply, but I doubt that the legal avenues have been exhausted yet.

Posted by: Thinking | April 18, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

no story here

Posted by: Breaking News | April 18, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

On the other hand, if he withdraws from all these cases we won’t have the nice caselaw warning future presidents this won’t fly.
But he does need to let DOJ go after the torturers.

Posted by: Joan Fahlgren | April 18, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

“Breaking News” is wrong. A judicial finding that the executive branch violated the 4th amendment and tried to cover it up is a “very big deal.” “Thinking” dismisses the ruling from “only one judge.” But that’s how we save the Bill of Rights-one judge at a time. Jake, I’ve been critical of some of your posts before. Not this time. Good work.
As for the torture memo authors, at least they should be disbarred. Judge Bybee should be removed from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

Posted by: B. Bear | April 18, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Great reporting! Great news for democracy! However honorable or dishonorable the Al-Haramain charity, like all of us, it merits a fair trial with access to documents the state has used against it.

Posted by: Constant Weader | April 18, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm

It seems obvious to me that US Presidents know much more about these things than the public or the media can ever be ‘let in on’. Obama makes these hard decisions for security reasons.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | April 18, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm

Thinking” dismisses the ruling from “only one judge.” But that’s how we save the Bill of Rights-one judge at a time.
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That depends on your perspective. I did not dismiss the ruling, what I said was that it isn’t over yet. I do not know what might be revealed if the records were made public, but I am not willing to just dismiss the Governments position either.
What I do know is that Obama was very opposed to the governments position before he was President, since though he is strongly in favor. Why? What is there? What else might a ruling against the Government’s position affect?
I am in favor of letting this go through the complete court system. It is just one judges ruling in this case. That is why we have a system of courts. It seems to me that you are willing to dismiss everything else.

Posted by: Thinking | April 18, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

Is this the case from Texas, The Holy Land Foundation, or something like that, that Patrick Fitzgerald was in charge of?

Posted by: mad | April 19, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

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