Little-Noticed Budget Changes Signal Problems Ahead for the Obama Agenda
ABC News’ Jonathan Karl reports: The good news for the White House: The budget passed. The bad news: Not a single Republican in the House or Senate voted for it. The worse news: Little-noticed changes to the budget suggest problems ahead for the Obama agenda. On the major pillars of the Obama agenda — healthcare, energy and climate change, education, and regulatory reform — the signs from Capitol Hill are less-than promising. President Obama vowed to push for all of them this year in his speech to Congress last month. The push is happening, but the White House and its allies are beginning to scale back expectations. In the coming weeks, listen for Democratic leaders to say it is important to see "movement" or "progress" on the big agenda items this year. Getting final passage of more than one of these before the end of the 2009 will take a minor miracle. Here’s the outlook: Healthcare — The biggest challenge here is finding a way to pay for it. The Senate last night rejected one funding source: reducing the tax deduction for charitable contributions by high-income taxpayers. The White House also proposed using revenue gained by taxing greenhouse gas emissions (cap and trade). That also appears to be a non-starter in Congress. So, Congress can agree on how not to pay for it, but not on a viable way to pay for it. There will be a big fight ahead over using the "reconciliation" maneuver to pass a healthcare overhaul with just 51 votes in the Senate. But even then, getting final passage of sweeping healthcare legislation by the end of the year will be extremely difficult. Energy/Climate Change — Last night, two-thirds of the Senate voted to make it much harder to get it passed by opposing a the use of reconciliation for climate change, which would make it possible to pass a bill with just 51 votes. This will be one of the year’s greatest legislative battles, but even some of the bill’s most fervent advocates say the odds of final passage this year are low. One Democratic Senator who strongly favors the bill told me bluntly yesterday, "It won’t happen." Look for a major assist from Al Gore on this one. Gore’s group, the Alliance for Climate Protection, has hired Obama campaign strategist Steve Hildebrand to launch a national campaign to get a climate change bill passed this year. This will be an aggressive, high-profile, well-funded campaign. Education — Is see no sign of progress on a sweeping education reform bill this year. There’s talk of reforming No Child Left Behind, but no real movement. The year’s most significant education legislation may have already passed: the billions in education spending included in the stimulus bill. Regulatory Reform — The financial crisis has forced this into the center of the Obama agenda, and it is the White House’s best shot for a major legislative accomplishment this year — a sweeping change to the way the financial system is regulated.
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Don’t tell me that you realy thought that he would get everything he asked for. Don’t tell me you thought that he thought he would get everything he asked for. And please don’t tell me you thought that he would ever get any GOP support.
Posted by: Thinking | April 3, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
I seem to remember Hillary saying Barrack was all hat and no cattle. Smart cookie that Hillary.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 11:37 am 11:37 am
In only two months in office Obama has lead the Congress to:
1. SCHIP passed.
2. Control of the rest of the TARP – $350 Billion.
3. Huge stimulus that folks said would never pass – passed without a single House Republican ;-).
4. Robust and much needed budget – passed.
There’s 9+ months left this year!
Posted by: Tom | April 3, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
The bad news, the budget passed.
The good news, no republicans voted for it.
The GREAT news, it is unlikely to get final passage on any of these socialist plans.
Posted by: Kate | April 3, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Ahh the good ol’ GOP (now and forever more termed the Grand Obstructionist Party). Keep it up fella’s and you’ll see yourselves in Ralph Nader territory sooner rather than later.
Posted by: Bob Lees | April 3, 2009, 11:46 am 11:46 am
lol.
kate thats just wishful (and typically moronic ) republican thinking.
the bill passed . it is a law. that is a fact. relax and take a nap. we adults are in charge now.
Posted by: Bennet | April 3, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
The republicans are not going to vote for anything, shall we just give up on that being news..and quit reporting the obvious..unfortunately..they will not be able to claim a posistion on the economy recovering and that is where most americans are looking to, to see if these policies work…I predict once that is clear…no roadblocks to the rest of the presidents agenda…the senate needs to Man up..and not water down the bill….e-mail your senators to keep the pressure on…
Posted by: cowgirl | April 3, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am
cowgirl…it passed the senate too. read carefully and objectively or you ll come down with moron disease and have to change your [arty affiliation to republican.
very bad…
Posted by: Tim R | April 3, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am
Once the Republican’ts have shown their true agenda—self destruction. And not just of their party, but of the country as a whole. What Boss Limbah (sic) really meant was “I hope America fails,” for that is the only way for him to stay relevant.
Posted by: Rick | April 3, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Love seeing the republicans getting left out of the rebuilding process.
They don’t deserve any credit for anything other than blatant misuse of their positions in government to run the nation into the ditch.
The republican party has been brain dead for +40 years ,it’s long past time to pull the plug.
Posted by: Bill | April 3, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
There will be a big fight ahead over using the “reconciliation” maneuver to pass a healthcare overhaul with just 51 votes in the Senate. But even then, getting final passage of sweeping healthcare legislation by the end of the year will be extremely difficult.
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All the more reason to vote a pretty straight democratic ticket for the next 10 years or so of election cycles ,especially at federal and state levels.
Generally speaking politicians are like the sewer system , distasteful but necessary.
However they should not do anything that is not in the best interest of the nation at large, just as a doctor must swear by oath to “do no harm” .
Lets just agree as responsible sensible voters to be sure to choose the LEAST distasteful ( and most useful )from amongst them shall we?
With that in mind…
Q: Which party brewed up countless lies to start a senseless war that drained this country dry?
Q: Which party started using torture and illegal detainment camps as national policy?
Q: Which party oversaw the biggest financial collapse in us history , all of that occurring with unprecedented party control of the federal government during their reign?
Answer honestly ,and you’ll never vote republican again.
Posted by: Frank W | April 3, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
This is not a rebuilding process. Its the end to America as we know it.
Posted by: Carol in Alabama | April 3, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Since the GOP is focused on Obstructionism as it only resourceful tool, I would support the Democrats in Congress to do as the Republican have done often and without apologies, to use the “reconciliation” maneuver of 51 votes.
The GOP has made it clear that they are catering specifically to their base and have no need for the rest of us…And that their only plans are to obstruct the President and to focus on posturing for the 2010 and 2012 elections.
I say, we have no need to them as well, let them keep digging that hole they seem so intent on digging.
The Republican Congress seem to have no real leadership, no new sense of direction… They seem stuck on the Reagan era and in denial and indifferent to mainstream and middle class Americans…
Posted by: theafalcon200 | April 3, 2009, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
And who was responsible for Vietnam?
Posted by: Carol in Alabama | April 3, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
I still have a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on my car and I am going to keep it on there as a reminder to all those that voted for the emperor. If the does well, (which is not going to happen), the obama and the dems deserve all the credit. If it tanks even more, (and it will), then obama and dems bear all the responsibility. The 2010 elections are coming up fast and it is going to be great. What do they say about payback? :-)
Posted by: DJ | April 3, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
How to pay for health care? A gas tax – or maybe even a carbon tax! And incentivize energy conservation, greater fuel efficiency, reducing greenhouse gas emissions, and buying “local” all at the same time.
Posted by: George52 | April 3, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Everyone is forgetting that America does not have the demographics to support this spending bill … next step is to bring more workers to pay taxes into the system through amnesty for illegal immigrants and more looking the other way when illegal immigrants work and pay taxes (through stolen social security numbers) but don’t file returns to get refunds — that’s free money for the government and they’re not about to give up that golden goose, especially now.
Posted by: Taxpayer | April 3, 2009, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
Bill, I disagree with you, if the obama idiots stay in power, we won’t even have a vote. We will have a say in nothing. I just can’t believe so many people are blinded by this “Messiah”…..
Posted by: maniteu | April 3, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Wow, look at the hatred on display. Here’s some easy shorthand:
Bush Derangement Syndrome = if you criticize Bush on anything or make fun of him, you’re obviously unhinged
Obama Derangement Syndrome = if you *don’t* criticize Obama on everything and make fun of him, you’re obviously unhinged
Wow, no double-standard here, huh?
The disrespect, contempt and hatred displayed by the right-wing commenters here demonstrates how irrational and extremist they are. They seem to exist only to make snarky, mean-spirited jeers (like “Their messiah” or “Nobama”). They have no respect for diversity of opinion, seem to live and breathe hypocrisy, and are ridiculously over-the-top in their attacks. Listen to them wail about how Obama is “destroying America”; they spread rumors that he’s trying to enact Sharia law in the USA, or that he’s going to turn America into a socialist nightmare. These aren’t considered, respectful positions. It’s smearing and rumormongering. The fact that so many of our citizens seem to think that Rushian “truthiness” and frat-boy conspiracy are the way to make America great is proof of how easily people can fall into destructive patterns of thought. This country is not immune to the terror of the hateful mob. God help us all.
Posted by: John Clavis | April 3, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
Democrats are so sarcastic.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
I read the comments and note that very few liberal posters argue with the conservative position–they just call names.
Liberals: Your blind faith in the Democratic party shows how unthinking you are.
It’s time to drop the hero worship and blind allegiance to political parties. Read the constitution and then demand that your elected representatives follow it. That is the only path to salvation.
Posted by: foutsc | April 3, 2009, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
The MSM have been telling us for weeks there were “problems with the budget” Now voila it’s passed house and senate and without Republican votes. This was a surprise? The budget will pass on reconciliation with 95% of what the president wants. The only serious area of contention I see is cap and trade and a way will be found to make this work since it’s central to funding the budget. This is basically journalistic kite flying.
Posted by: john | April 3, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Hey Kate,
Tell me how you and the rest of the progressive sodomites feel on judgment day.
Posted by: Jack | April 3, 2009, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
I hope that Karl is right. But huge damage has been done already – we’re spending $2 for every $1 of revenue on projects that won’t help the economy. We’re leaving our combat troops in Iraq 9 months longer than even Bush would have done. We’re kowtowing to the Iranians while they build the bomb. The new plan to fix the banks is the same as the old plan to fix the banks. We’ve decided to rename GM – it is now called Government Motors – and Obama is promising to fix your car if it breaks.
Change we believed in!
Posted by: Ernie Banks | April 3, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Kate I’m sorry that was intended for:
Bob Lees; cowgirl; bennet and the rest of the sodomites who continue to drink the coolaide!
Posted by: Jack | April 3, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
Hey clavis,
Interesting comments, clearly you are one of those people who could critisize Bush with ease and take great offense to anything anbody says to obama . . . I wonder why that is . . . typical email though from your kind.
Posted by: jack | April 3, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
It sad to to see that there is so many libral stupid people who does not think for themselves, but they need thier idiot leader to direct them to hell.
Posted by: wa | April 3, 2009, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
Any program that will need Al Gore’s political acumen to advance is as good as dead.He couldn’t even figure out how to carry his own neighborhood or he would have been President himself
Posted by: Jill | April 3, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Liberals, Just answer this question, why your leaders don’t like to pay taxes while they ask every one of us to pay ours. I know that you have no answerb because you are dum as a wall.
Posted by: jt | April 3, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Obama and the democrats now own this economy. If it recovers by the fall of 2010, they get the credit. If not, it will be 1994 all ove again. Rememeber 6% unemployement is tolerable. for every % point above it, the party in power will lose at least one senator.
The NY election this week exposed one thing. 1) the republican brand is still tarnished 2) the democratic party brand is beginning to show cracks. Obama went all in on this election and still came up with a draw.
Final thought…the last time the stock market crashed was 1988. it took about 10 years for the economy to recover…
Posted by: dumpdodd2010 | April 3, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Liberals, just answer this question. Why your leaders from Dashel and on and on do not like to pay their taxes, while they demand us to pay higher and higher taxes??? I know that you don not have an answer, because you are DUM AS A WALL.
Posted by: JT | April 3, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Since Obama is out of the country things are getting better on Wall Street. Since he likes to be the PRESIDENT of the WORLD, why he cann’t has his headquarter some place in China, Africa, Iran, Cuba, Venzula, then America will prospor.
Posted by: SDL | April 3, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
As a Conservative Republican, I am not going to call anyone a name, especially President Obama. The office deserves the respect, even if I do disagree with him on pretty much everything. I do find it remarkable that the same people who spent 8 years totally trashing the last President and the office, and actively rooting for his failure, now get so bent out of shape when one simply disagrees with this President.
I am very happy to be the obstructionist party for this President’s agenda. I wish the Democrats had their 60 seat majority so they could do what they want without any Republican support. The more they own this agenda, the sooner Republicans surge back into power–only hopefully chastened back to Conservative principals by the poor way they governed the last time.
The devastating inflation that this budget spending will inflict on America and the world will be the legacy of President Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. The Democrats will be branded the party of high spending, high taxes and crushing inflation for another generation.
Posted by: Rob | April 3, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Hey Frank W…here’s some real answers for ya:
“Q: Which party brewed up countless lies to start a senseless war that drained this country dry?”
Let’s see….. since most military funds spent, are spent on items (Tanks, Weapons, Ammo, etc.) that are produced here in the states…. the TRUE answer is… NO PARTY!!!
“Q: Which party started using torture and illegal detainment camps as national policy?”
Whew…. gotta go back quite a few years for this one couple hundred to be exact when your looking for a party that “Started”… of course, up until recent times, I wouldn’t call it “national policy”…. heh, actions being taken; even endorsed or encouraged by our leaders doesn’t make it “policy” jack-a$$.
“Q: Which party oversaw the biggest financial collapse in us history , all of that occurring with unprecedented party control of the federal government during their reign?”
Well, since the collapse took place in 2007… and the democrats controlled congress…. we can’t say it was republicans, so we have to go back to maybe Jimmy Carter days…
“Answer honestly ,and you’ll never vote republican again.” *cough* you meant Democrat… but that’s ok, we forgive you for your err.
Posted by: Hiddukel | April 3, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Cap and trade will make electric and gas bills and costs skyrocket for every citizen. Inflation will abound. The economy as we know it will come to a screeching halt because no one will be able to afford the simple basics like lights and water(uses an electric pump)and basic transportation.
Posted by: anony | April 3, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
Speaking of taxes, were you aware that the TAX on a pound of tobacco went from $1.09 to over $24 on Wednesday? Who was that said ‘No Taxes will not go up for you if you’re earning less than $250K’?
Posted by: deanbob | April 3, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Excuse me if I misunderstand, but aren’t we retreading and retrenching for more destructive partisan battles that ~53% of the nation voted to end? What we need now is not either a democratic set of dogma or a republican set of dogma. We need someone who will look at all the information available, consult with experts of various opinions and make the most informed decision possible. People want to idealize these decisions. Obama is trying, with resistance from both sides of the isle, to make the decisions that will set our country up for success in the future. In my opinion, he made too many concessions to the democratic congress on the stimulus bill and the 2009 budget. The more we let partisan politics get in his way, the more we undermine our collective prospects for a bright future. In essence, grow up!!
Posted by: jeff | April 3, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
…. to enlighten, my remark about the Democrats controlling congress in 2007, feel free to look folks… Nacy “screw-up” Pelosi and Harry “Has Alzheimers” Reid were controlling the House and Senate all of 2007 and going forward… so if our financial collapse took place during this time, and your feeling like pointing fingers, you can point at them… after all, our country was truely prosperous from 2001 – (end of) 2006… problems didn’t start will the beginning of 2007… coincidentally when Democrats took over Congress….
Tired of Demo-dumb-dumbs pointing fingers at Republicans when a Republican President is in office, regardless of who controls congress….. but get a Democrat in office, and they talk like the man could walk on water… and any foul-ups done… their response? “well that’s because of Bush”…. Typical Democrats…. if they oppose Republican proposals, they’re put on the highest pedestal as being heros…. republicans do the same thing, regardless of WHAT it is, they’re treated as “obstacles”..
Sorry Democrats… time to get over yourselves, stop thinking about YOU and start thinking about everyone as a WHOLE.
Pick up some real books once in a while, stop searching on google till you find some subjective, completely opinionated article that purposely lies to spin the facts to look good for them (and subsequently you), and educate yourselves. Kind of showing your a$$ when you suggest the republicans controlled everything up till the dat Obama was elected.
Posted by: Hiddukek | April 3, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
ROB—Excellent post…
Posted by: arkie vet | April 3, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Spend, spend, spend!
Posted by: LongT | April 3, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
A part of me would like the Democrats to pass the cap and trade nonsense. The ill effects on our economy would be hard for even our liberal media to hide, and I think there would be a big political price to pay. With the cold winters we have been having lately, there would be quite a backlash on the Democrats for our much higher utility bills. That said, the cap and trade scam’s effects on our economy and lifestyles would be tragic.
Posted by: Mike Kelley | April 3, 2009, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
I, for one, am not going to pay any taxes than I can avoid to help fund the King’s plans. I am retired with a small business that can work very well in the underground economy. I can not believe how willing the sheep are to have a tax increase put upon them. Obama says people need to by cars and houses and in the next breath he spends the money that I would have to do just that. He is a joke and he will fail because what he is doing is impossible too maintain financely. The new tax form will have two lines. The first line says” How much do you make?”. The second line says “Send it to us”. This is an old joke but it is not funny at all.
Posted by: MrDuffin | April 3, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
To Frank W.
You are Dum and ignorant. Go educate yourself and not rely only on MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NYT, DailyKos. Go read some real books that tell you the truth about our nation and its history.
Posted by: Tom Daschle | April 3, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Health Care is paid for by making the reform budget-neutral.
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR) has a bill that has substantial bipartisan support, including the support of Judd Gregg. It is politically viable and it will address the most serious problems in our system, make health care portable and available to everyone. And it won’t cost billions or trillions in new spending.
Why is the media ignoring bipartisan, budget-neutral solutions like this?
Why is the White House doing likewise?
Posted by: Pan Metron | April 3, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Hiddukek–”Nice response to Frank W — If he’s still listening .. or for any other lib who might be still reading.. let me add a couple of things..
1.) 47 prominent democrats including John Kerry, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosci, and Ted Kennedy made public statements from 1998 to 2000 supporting military action against Iraq and indicating that they too believed WMDs existed. But now, according to dems.. it was all just a Bush/cheney lie.
2.) The so called torture argument came primarily from teh use of an activity called water-boarding. Water boarding is used on our own troops during survival training in SEAL school.. its very unpleasant, but its arguable that it is actaully torture.
3.) If this financial collapse was the fault of rebublicans, then why did Pelosci say that a full investigation would be conducted and the responsibile individuals would be held accountable, but then never convened an investigation.. answer, because several days were spent trying to find a republican to hang it on, but when only democrats could be tied to it ( Frank, Waters, Reid, Dodd, Rangle) she dropped the whole idea of an investigation. Paint it anyway you want to, but this crisis has only democrat fingerprints on it..
Posted by: arkie vet | April 3, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
@Frank W | Apr 3, 2009 12:47:24 PM
Q: Which party brewed up countless lies to start a senseless war that drained this country dry?
Are you referring to now, Vietnam, Korea, or WW2 all wars can be seen as senseless and draining on a nations economy. There is no “easy button.”
Q: Which party started using torture and illegal detainment camps as national policy?
I could spend all day on this one lol! Should we start with FDR and Executive Order 9066 on February 19, 1942?
Q: Which party oversaw the biggest financial collapse in us history , all of that occurring with unprecedented party control of the federal government during their reign?
Both. It started in October 1929 under Hoover with the stock market crash, the Depression became a worldwide business slump of the 1930′s under FDR that affected almost all nations, the Great Depression ended as nations increased their production of war materials at the start of World War II in 1939. This increased production provided jobs and put large amounts of money back into circulation.
FDR tried a lot of the things Obama is trying to do which eventually prolonged the great depression in more recent history Japan also tried some of the same ideas leading to what they call “The lost decade.”
What is going on now is not in the best interests of the nation as a whole. Spending like a banana republic only increases the debt your children will have to pay back and make more borrowing much more expensive (interest payments higher than the whole defense budget).
History has lessons to teach if people would take the time to listen rather than react emotionally and in a knee jerk fashion.
Bush is out of office that’s good, is some of this his fault? Sure, it’s also the fault of the congresses that sent him legislation to sign and it’s also the fault of past administrations and congresses for poorly thought out regulations and plans that were well intentioned but counter productive.
We could play the blame game forever but it’s kind of a waste of time since it doesn’t do anything other than divide people so maybe we should focus on some common sense approaches to the current problems such as observing the first rule of holes, when your in one quit digging.
I read a lot of comments about the republican party sadly they resemble the same comments I heard when the Democrats lost power, for conservatives this is good, they get to clean house and elect legislators who more reflect their views and beliefs much like what happened when democrats lost power but liberals should take note and learn from the past just because some republicans got their walking papers doesn’t mean their base suddenly became liberals it means they took out the trash and are doing the same thing democrats did some time ago and right now liberals are helping that along with runaway spending and poorly thought out legislation that is once again counter productive.
Posted by: tony7914 | April 3, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
Pat Metron–” is politically viable and it will address the most serious problems in our system, make health care portable and available to everyone. And it won’t cost billions or trillions in new spending.
Why is the media ignoring bipartisan, budget-neutral solutions like this?
Why is the White House doing likewise?
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The answer is simple… This White House is not looking for a viable and inexpensive solution to anything.. their priority is to find the solution which will garner THEM the most control regardless of expense.. and the media is their greatest enabler…
Posted by: arkie vet | April 3, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Give it a rest Obama worshipers, picture Obama on the can taking a smelly dump and get over it,he’s not special.just another president screwing up a pretty good country.
Posted by: scott1963 | April 3, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Great to see the brainless Dems out in force. D’ohBama is indeed highly accomplished, if you are looking for 15% unemployment, 15% inflation, currency devaluation, and nationalization of industry. Hasn’t worked for anyone else in U.S. or world history, but let’s all hold hands and sing “Yes we can”! And by all means hang on to the “he’s better than Bush” argument. That’s a real persuader.
Posted by: HT | April 3, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
tony 7914– EXCELLENT POST!!!!
IF more people had your grasp, we would be in much better shape..
Posted by: arkie vet | April 3, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Bad news for the Republican Party. Republicans have hitched their wagons to Obama failing. That is why they vote no. It has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility and you know that but you are so “objective” that you can’t even tell the truth. Republicans are on the road to extinction.
Posted by: Serryer | April 3, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Serryer–”Republicans have hitched their wagons to Obama failing. That is why they vote no. It has nothing to do with fiscal responsibility and you know that but you are so “objective” that you can’t even tell the truth”– actually it has everything to do with fiscal responsibility..Fiscal conservatives see out of control government spending as an economy killer. If they are right, then the economy will tank under Obamas plans.. if they are wrong, it will mean that we will become successful.. if this happens, then the republican party will fail, but that will be okay because it will mean that they were wrong to begin with..
Posted by: arkie vet | April 3, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
and since out of control government spending has NEVER been successful, I am pretty confident that failure is not in the republican future..
Posted by: arkie vet | April 3, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
It’s interesting to hear that the adults are in charge now. Can you imagine Ma and Pa sitting at the kitchen table and deciding to spend more on credit card interest than they spend on food, rent and utilities combined? Yet that is exactly where the Obama budget takes us in 10 years using CBO estimates for growth and spending.
When the republicans do something fiscally irresponsible like pass a Medicare prescription drug benefit the democrat’s usual complaint is it’s not generous enough. When the republicans do something really stupid like invade Iraq a majority of democrats vote to go along including every democratic senator who ran for president (the state senator from uber liberal Hyde Park did not have a vote.) The head of China’s central bank recently called for the creation of a new international currency reserve to replace the U.S. dollar. You know we’re not in Kansas anymore when the communist Chinese, who hold $1 trillion in US treasuries, think the administration is dangerously incompetent in economic matters.
Posted by: RazedByWolves | April 3, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
You say: “Healthcare — The biggest challenge here is finding a way to pay for it.” I say: No problem, just borrow some more from the Chinese and the Saudis.
You say: “Education — Is see no sign of progress on a sweeping education reform bill this year. There’s talk of reforming No Child Left Behind, but no real movement.” I say: No problem, just listen to a great speech (a well-read speech, I mean) and all the education concerns will disappear.
Unemployment is at 8.5%. Huge number of certain Americans are either overweight or obese (79.5%, according to the latest CDC findings and if you don’t trust the CDC numbers, just visit your local mall and watch the parade of fatness). Tent cities springing up all other the land; Still, the Dow is on the rebound.
But, have no fear, the French, Germans, Brits, and other Europeans keep cheering and screaming at the mention or sight of Michael Jackson and Obama. That’s gotta be worth something. Maybe something we can take to our neighboring Safeway, Wal-Mart, or Krogers.
Posted by: Percy | April 3, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Your smarmy BS will come back to haunt you…the elitest attitude of the liberals will cost them dearly in the next cycle. Count on it.
Posted by: BobLeesGhost | April 3, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
The varnish is coming off the statue!! He has placed individuals in cabinet positions who could not follow the law (Geithner specifically — not to mention the Sec of Labor and HHS). To the average Joe, they have ZERO credibility, and are not trusted. This climate issue has NOT BEEN PROVEN, yet they want to totally revamp the economy based on junk science, and simultaneously, tax us into oblivion! The smart democrats are going to start pushing back …..very quickly!
Posted by: PappyHappy | April 3, 2009, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
You republicans just choke down that crow as best you can…apparently it tastes terrible!
GO MR OBAMA , THE MORE THEY WHINE THE BETTER YOU AND NANCY ARE DOING!!!
WOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO!!!
Posted by: haha | April 3, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
Just wondering if one of you Obama Haters or McCain/Palin lovers could give us an idea of what you think would be happening now with our economy with the GOP running it; where would we be going with healthcare, medicare; how would we be dealing with Iraq, Afhangnistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea.
SInce the Dems an Obama don’t know what they’re doing ans just want to spend money, I’m just courious about where you all see our economy, education, healthcare, energy, and foreign policy given the examples of what the GOP think shoud be done over the last 2 months.
For ex: WOuld we have made a decision to stay in Iraq for however long it takes despite what the Iraqis want? Would we stil not be paying attention to Afganistan? WOuld the rich be getting their tax cuts and everyone else get a freeze in spending? I mean, do you really need a job? Would you be able to find someone to insure you with that taxed $5000 married/$2500 single credit McCain proposed? Do you think it will be easy to find private health insurance at age 65 after Medicare is stopped? An oh, with all the major financial institutions closed and the stock market crashed, just where are we going to get those loans?
Posted by: Just wondering | April 3, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Why do so many people in this country have to make every issue black and white? There is no black, no white, just shades of grey.
Seriously, some times I am ashamed of my fellow Americans.
Liberals, Conservatives – all just basically an excuse to pander your world views without thought or objectivity.
Posted by: harakiri_love | April 3, 2009, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
i can’t wait for the one party system! it will all be so simple then. i’m tired of making decisions. besides, i look great in red!
Posted by: benita canova | April 3, 2009, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
Most (99.99%) of the republican leaning posts om this blog are simply hilariously sophomoric
Are you just a big bunch of spoiled brats or what?
Republican “facts” and “truth” are really mostly rhetoric
propaganda and lies .
The republican party lost power (and will probably continue to be denied significant leadership roles ) because at it’s ideological core it was/is chock full of you-know-what ,and it was just getting WAY too obvious to the american voter ,even for most republicans.
Posted by: George | April 3, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Republicans wouldn’t know a fact if it bit them.
Their idea of “facts” are what they watch on Fox news (read : republican propaganda).
It’s pretty to me sad to see people being so simple minded and easily led about by the nose , but I can understand it seeing that the average i.q. is about 110 or so.
Just flip over to american idol or dancing with the stars once bill or hannity quit spewing the bile they call “journalism” ,and don’t even bother thinking about it cause … YOU ARE RIGHT ,YOU ARE SURE YOU ARE RIGHT , AND NO STINKING LIBERAL FACTS ARE GOING TO CHANGE YOUR MIND!!
…sigh…
Posted by: Denis R | April 3, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
And here’s a tough question for you free thinking republicans…
Why does the republican party need it’s own private televised propaganda channel /24/7/365 ; it is basically an infinite neocon kool-aid dispenser for the uneducated masses.
AND…
Why doesn’t the democratic party have such a dedicated tv channel ?
Keep being brainwashed republicans , you are now insignificant as a party because of it , and will probably remain so until you quit drinking the Fox/Bloomberg kool-aid.
Posted by: Frank W | April 3, 2009, 6:54 pm 6:54 pm
I don’t understand democrats. They say we need to reduce dependence on foreign oil. Then they repeal offshore drilling rights, shale leases and now Feinstein wants to close off the desert to wind and solar. They want to stop nuclear and not use the Yucca mountain storage facility. What exactly are we supposed to use for power??? Now they want to spend trillions that we don’t have and the $$ of generations to come.
They want to tax our most productive citizens and businesses and shut down growth. They want to turn over health care to a bureaucracy that can’t even run the post office or the SEC or Fannie and Freddie. And then they call themselves Progressive. I think not!
Posted by: Gary | April 3, 2009, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
Will all the Republicans who think it’s soooooooooo funny to keep their cash tucked into their wallets please start spending it now. Everyone knows electing Obama was a mistake. You have taught us our lesson. If I hear one more Republican snicker and talk about “the plan”, I think I am going to spit. It’s not funny anymore. We are so sorry for electing the Bamster, and we promise never to do it again.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Frank, the Dems tried it but nobody watched/listened …. given that most of the mainstreeam media is arguably liberal, the “dedicated” programs just got lost in the shuffle.
And remember … this is America. If YOU want that and (more importantly)think there’s a nitch, then be an American, and make it happen.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Health care and an energy policy will pass through the budget recon program with 51 votes, and we will find a way to pay for it or every Blue Dog Democrat better be prepared to lose their seat. Every Democratic leaning organization will target these people – health care reform and an energy policy have been put off for 30 years and these policies are the keystone of the Democratic agenda. We can’t wait to enact energy legislation until we go to the gas station and there is no gas or we turn on the light and there is no electricity. Why do people not see that we can’t keep buyng oil and not looking toward the future. The Republicans claim that spending will bankrupt our children, but if we don’t do something about health care, and energy there will be no future so it won’t matter what our debt is.
Posted by: Kate1149 | April 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
A lil side note to everyone. When should the government decide your healthcare and charge you for it? It’s our tax money that pays for everything in this “Agenda”. Expecting the Government to meet the needs of everyone is Socialism. How long did that last in the USSR? What happened to the USSR because of that?
Posted by: Mike | April 3, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
What a sad commentary on America. 10% of our working citizens are now umemployed; Obama and the congress are demonstrating a total lack of fiscal responsibility with their spend/tax programs. Our country is going down, big time – obama and his team are working to nationalize every major corporation. Welcome to the new USSA! This is not the America that the constitution established or our forefathers died for. We now have an idiot, clueless Messiah (HIP HOP POP STAR) running the country with no leadership ability, no management skills, no ethics, no integrity or wisdom, just a hubris attitude and sense of entitlement.
We are in huge trouble. Where is the outrage? Where is the media when we need them to stand up for America?
Posted by: Wizard | April 3, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Gary,
The Dems have never said not to use offshore drilling I think their point is to make sure we’re not destroying or contaminating the surrounding resources before we just blindly do anything. Start off with what we can do that doesn’t damage the environment.
How is taxing the top 5-10% shutting down growth? Small businesss are the mainstay of our country. Major businesses are all about making a buck. If they can outsource jobs and pay them $5 with crummy or no benefits when they would have to pay us $10 with benefits, where do you think thye’re going to go. It has nothing to do with the tax rate. Maybe if we got a better handle on healthcare were busineeses would not have to absorb so much o fht cost, that may help with job growth.
Finally, maybe if we can get more reguations in a deregulated system, we can get Freddie and Frannie back in control.
The Post Office, to put it plainly has to grow as the suburbs and country grows. That means more employees without enough money to pay them. WHere do you think there money has to come from?
Posted by: Just wondering | April 3, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
All of you people on this site who insist on talking about Obama’s cabinet not following the law obviously don’t remember the Bush years. Bush and the Republicans never met a law they didn’t break – they turned the Justice Department into their personal joke, discriminated in hiring, tortured people in violation of international law, and supported corrupt corporations on wall street and in Iraq. I hope all of you Republicans burn in hell along with your idols Cheney, Limbaugh, Hanity, Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, and the wall street CEO’s who robbed the middle class blind and complain about paying your fair share of taxes. You are all disgusting individuals Uck!
Posted by: Kate1149 | April 3, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Yes, Mr. Karl, there are problems ahead for the Obama agenda. It’s cool to be cool, but no amount of cool can make Obama’s numbers add up. Unlike politics, math is tough that way.
Most Americans, and even most democrats, know that you cannot spend or borrow your way to fiscal responsibility. When GWB ran up a large debt, his critics, whether conservative republicans or then candidate Obama, were right to call this an unfair burden on our children. Can it now be right to triple or quadruple that debt?
Had Mr. Obama concentrated on a short-term stimulus bill, I believe most Americans would have supported it, just as they did when W proposed a smaller version last year–this despite the lack of solid evidence that Keynesian stimulus really works.
But under Obama’s watch, the stimulus bill morphed into a pork-ridden behemoth, and Mr. Obama now advocates a unprecedented and positively reckless level of spending of trillions on issues like healthcare and cap and trade, which he disingenuously insists are both necessary to economic recovery, and cost-free, except to the “rich.”
The cold facts are that if passed, this budget will eventually require much higher taxes on middle-class Americans (because that’s where the money is), or the printing of money and a runaway inflation rate that will make Jimmy Carter look like a financial genius.
The present democratic majority may or may not have the votes to pass this budget. But that “success” will only guarantee more debt, higher taxes, and higher inflation down the road.
Math is just tough that way.
Posted by: panda7 | April 3, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Wizard says: “We now have an idiot, clueless Messiah (HIP HOP POP STAR) running the country with no leadership ability, no management skills, no ethics, no integrity or wisdom, just a hubris attitude and sense of entitlement.”
What clueless idiot, other than the one we just got rid of, do you suggest would be doing a better job? What do you think that they would be doing to correct our economy, fix healthcare/medicare, develop new energy sources, and educate our kids so that they are the ones developing new technology before we all start having “made in China” stamped on our forehead.
Posted by: Just wondering | April 3, 2009, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm
You Kate1149 on the other hand appear to be a beautiful, tolerant, and altogeher reasonable individual.
Have a nice day.
Posted by: panda7 | April 3, 2009, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm
Don’t just do something, sit there. It’s my new campaign slogan. It’s aimed at all the folks who think the Bamster is the answer to all of their problems. I figure they will all vote for me since I advocate sitting on your butt, doing nothing, and having the government take care of me. Who cares if my sense of self worth plummets and I teach my children to be a leach on society? I’m tired of working for what I want in life. I give up. I’ll take what’s behind door number two.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
Daniel Hannan the Englishmen that spoke out against Gordon Brown warned us if we can stop just ONE thing in this new budget…..to stop government health care. I agree. I have a friend who just received a triple bypass and valve replacement. He can’t pay. He wasn’t turned down in this great country and he received fantastic care. We do need to reform our health care, we need tort reform to lessen outrageous liability suits and we need to be sure everyone co-pays as it reduces unnecessary treatments, but we don’t need to turn it over to the government!
Posted by: Gary | April 3, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Kitty says:
“Don’t just do something, sit there. It’s my new campaign slogan. It’s aimed at all the folks who think the Bamster is the answer to all of their problems. I figure they will all vote for me since I advocate sitting on your butt, doing nothing, and having the government take care of me. Who cares if my sense of self worth plummets and I teach my children to be a leach on society? I’m tired of working for what I want in life. I give up. I’ll take what’s behind door number two.”
Or you could take door number one: no job, no house, no health insurance, no medicare, no education, and a free trip to Iraq or Afganistan.
Posted by: Just wondering | April 3, 2009, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
Gary,
Are you out of your mind. I work in health care and your attitude is one of th reasons the cost is healthcare is constantly rising. People who don’t have insurance and can’t or don’t pay the bill. WHo do you think absorbs the cost of that CABG? Who do you think absorbs the cost for anyone who recieves care that can’t pay for it. That’s why you have hospital costs rising, insurance cost rising, and hysicians refusing or limiting the number or Medicare/Medicaid patients they see. Some facilities won’t even operate on you if it’s an elective surgery if you can’t pay for it. That’s why some rural area hospitals have closed. So you think everyone can just walk in an hospital and get what they need without worrying about paying for it without there being serious long term cost to that facility and the people in that service area if they should lose their facility.
Posted by: Just wondering | April 3, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Just wondering, problem is we already know what’s behind door number three – failed policies to eradicate most of that stuff you mentioned and MASSIVE tax icreases to pay for it. The burden this president is heaping upon future generations is criminal.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
republicans … gotta love em! NOT!
Posted by: Ti,ster | April 3, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
And who was responsible for Vietnam?
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Carol in Alabama
President Eisenhower was the one who got the ball rolling in Vietnam. It just reached its peak under LBJ.
Posted by: Andrew | April 3, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
I have news for Kitty, I am 60 years old, have worked at two consecutive careers since the age of 20. I am not a leech on society, I employ 10 people and I have paid a BUNCH of taxes over the years. Somehow, I can still identify and care about people still trying to gain a foothold in life. I do not denigrate as wanting a free ride or a hand out, only a hand. Do I think President Obama is a great man? Yes I do. I can only think of one Republican in his class and that is General Colin Powell. Too bad there aren’t more Republicans like him around.
Posted by: Phoenix lady | April 3, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
I feel like we are making the wrong argument for Cap and Trade on Energy. What nobody is mentioning is our addiction to oil is financing and strengthening our enemies. How do you think Iran is a strong enough nation to develop a nuclear weapons program? How has Russia become a national superpower again? Why do the Islamic Jihadists consider us an enemy? Because we are a free country? No. Russia was a communist country and they waged war on them. They are against any country whose foreign policy imposes a threat to them. Why do we meddle in the Middle East at all? Leading the charge on alternative energy not for our country but the rest of the world will cripple these regions who we currently suck up to and the terror groups they finance. With no global demand for oil, our interests in these regions would be the same as our need to meddle in Africa today, almost none. 90% of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi citizens. Would we put up with that if we didn’t have to kiss Saudi Arabia’s butt to ensure our supply of oil?
This revolution can only happen with government leadership on putting pricing pressure on these fuels. Tax what we wish to eliminate consumption of…cigarettes, soda, FOSSIL FUELS. It might not be pleasant to our wallets, but it is the only choice we have to drive incentive for an alternative approach. This is not a granola eating, save the planet, idea. I am not sure there is even enough evidence for global warming. What I do know is there is plenty of evidence on how $150 oil strengthens our enemies. SUPPORT Cap and Trade. Yes the taxes will be passed on to us citizens (Sean Hannity, we know), but that will give us more reason to buy into alternative fuel. Cap and Trade has more to do with our National Security and our Global Standing, then just being painted as a simple tax increase to stop global warming.
Posted by: LI Chris | April 3, 2009, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
Obstructionist, really? Do you left-of-centers not remember your not too distant past where you whined incessantly about Bush’s spending? Obama has now surpassed that point and then some within the first 100 days of office!!! How is someone like myself, a 22-year old soon to be college graduate, supposed to compete with overqualified recently unemployed job seekers? I am sure not going to be getting any help from the government. They’re assuring my bleak future with every bill they pass (without Obama’s 5-day online promise). Talk about a turnaround from transparency and partisan compromise!
The fact that ALL republicans vote no means something. No, they’re not idiots… if that’s your belief then maybe you should blame the constituents and label yourself a biased self-labeled intellectual, but for gosh sake realize they are looking for ANY compromise in this situation. The Dems drunk off their power trip have no intention of bringing a post-partisan world to light. Becoming an ex-pat is becoming quite enticing these days…
Posted by: Reese | April 3, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
Andrew writes: “President Eisenhower was the one who got the ball rolling in Vietnam. It just reached its peak under LBJ.”
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It just “reached its peak” under Johnson??? Did you learn that bit of history at an ivy league school during the 70′s and 80′s Andrew??? Why don’t you tell the folks here tonight how many “troops” Eisenhower had in Vietnam??? The point that you hate to admit is that it was two Democratic presidents who sent this nation into a war they were not prepared to WIN (Kennedy and primarily Johnson). It was a republican who got us out.
Posted by: socialism101 | April 3, 2009, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Reese, you have articulated the hypocrisy of the left……when the spending is by one of their own, it is righteous spending that will stimulate the economy. When a bomb gets dropped or military action undetaken….it is righteous if it is done by one of their own.
Posted by: socialism101 | April 3, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
This column has absolutely got to be the GREATEST news I’ve read in a very long time. Mr. Karl, keep it up.
Posted by: go_figure | April 3, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Phoenix Lady, why don’t you be honest? The only reason Colin Powell is the only one you can think of is probably because he came out in support of Obama. Colin Powell is a HUGE part of the reason we got into Iraq. You brought him up.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 10:30 pm 10:30 pm
And if I might be so bold. Mr Gore, please, PLEASE, get a real job.
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Posted by: GLOBAL1ADVISORY | April 3, 2009, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm
vietnam?
too complex for you armchair quarterbacks?
ABSOLUTELY!
google Gulf of Tonkin…then blame the stupid naval academy for commissioning that moron who started the war ball rolling by shooting at whales…in the dark…
Posted by: Frank W | April 3, 2009, 10:59 pm 10:59 pm
LI Chris, The only alternative is to tax fossil fuels? I beg your pardon. How about tapping into the closed oil wells off the coasts of CA and FL? How about tax incentives for shale oil production instead of closing down the leases that companies have already been exploring and developing for 7 years? How about developing nuclear power, (no emmisions) We already have a storage site ready, Yucca Mountain that Obama doesn’t want to use. This cap and trade program is a money grab pure and simple. They even have a hedge fund for it! If they were serious about stopping carbon or dependence on foreign oil, they wouldn’t be closing off our other sources of energy. Obama slapped the off shore oil ban back on just recently and shut down shale leases. Feinstein is trying to close off the desert to wind and solar. They aren’t planning to use Yucca Mountain. What options are they leaving us but to pay dearly for the little energy they are allowing us?
Posted by: Gary | April 3, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
It comes down to a very simple truth: you cannot spend what you do not have. All of the spending objectives lack one important element and that is money. If the Democratic party thinks they can fund the objectives through taxes, it is wrong. It is immoral for a government to take money by force from its citizens. I hope you who are talking on this site really are thinking through this.
Posted by: ken | April 3, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
The Republicans are cowards. They are afraid to double down on our finances in order to bring us out of the ditch they allowed Bush to put us in.
The Democrats who were in congress under Bush know they cannot make more self serving mistakes under a President they helped elect who has a mandate to restore our domestic and international status.
The Republicans know the are in congress on borrowed time.
Posted by: clarity | April 3, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Just Wondering….no I’m not out of my mind. I was just pointing out that people aren’t being refused care, as many like to suggest. Of course we need to reform health care but it can be done in the private sector and keep our doctors incentivised to perform well, thereby keeping our excellent United States health care. We can’t resort to mediocre or worse government health care. I don’t want to trust my family’s health to the type of performance I have seen from government entities. “Government is not the answer.” Repeat 3 times slowly.
Posted by: Gary | April 3, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
It is quite evident in reading the posts on this blog. You have to admit that the Republicans give of plenty of laughs. First, they are the party of NO…for the next 8 years. Yep – the party of NO brains, NO hearts, NO courage, NO vision. Every time Rush, Hannity, Billo, and Beck open their mouths, the insanity that comes out is hilarous!!!! They provide fair game for every comedian around.
And remember if you were not around then – NO Republicans voted for Medicare 44 years ago. I wonder how many Republicans, who enjoy their Medicare coverage, know this.
And then there is late-night TV – what a hoot! Letterman calls Billo a “goon” TO HIS FACE and ran the “party of Yes” ad –it was priceless. Colbert eviscerates Beck and Jon Stewart hails Limbaugh’s vow to leave New York. Keep it up Republicans – for eight years you will be our entertainment.
Posted by: sandy | April 3, 2009, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Sandy, it appears as if the Repubs are making you crazy.
Posted by: Kitty | April 3, 2009, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
Kitty,
No, but they are making themselves crazy – certainly providing plenty of entertainment for the rest of the populous. Republicans have no idea what is up and down but are finding “down” seems the preferable path for them. If Republicans do not support trying to get the economy back on its feet, or health care reform, or education reform, new energy sources, or rebuilding our infrastructre but stay so wrapped in ideology that had brought this country to its knees since the deregulation practices started in the Reagan era, then Republicans have no right to praddle on in nonsensical terms. More Republicans voted against the Republican budget than Democrats voted agains the Democratic budget by a 2-1 margin. I say it again – the Republican party is the party of NO brains, NO hearts, NO courage, NO vision. Nothing to offer, nothing to get this country back on track. They just seem to be swirling around in their own pot of craziness with no dipper to spoon them out.
Posted by: sandy | April 4, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Sandy,
And the “democratic” party is the party of thieves (by robbing people of their hard-earned money via the highest taxes they can pass).
And they are the party of tax cheats as well. Just how many Democrats has our new Kenyan president, that Chicago machine product, Hussein, had to tell to withdraw from his nominations?
That alone tells you all you need to know about the ‘democratic” party.
Those Marxists think the rules apply to everybody else — but not them. They want to tell everybody else what to say; what to do; and even what to think.
They HATE the word, “liberty.” It sounds way too much like an environment where people are free to do anything they want as long as it doesn’t negatively affect their neighbors. That concept (the foundation of our Constitution) makes Hussein Marxists scream and they want to stuff it out anywhere they find it.
You see . . . THEY know what’s best for the rest of us. We’re all totally incapable to making choices about what is best for us. THEY know better than WE do. They are, therefore, pathetic excuses for human beings.
Hussein and his minions (specifically, pathetic Pelosi and Reid)have no intention of trying to be bipartisan. They made that clear when they released that trillion dollar pork barrel “stimulus” bill only a few hours before they called a vote on it.
Oh, BTW, their breaking of their commitment on that first major bill (to engage the Republicans in discussions about legislation) proves that “democrats” are pathological liars as well.
Posted by: Rick | April 4, 2009, 1:32 am 1:32 am
If Colin Powell is such a great man, why didn’t he come out immediately and slam Obama when he told the military vets he was going to take away their lifetime VA benefits for service connected injuries and disabilities and force their private insurance companies to pay for them? If George Bush had ever put forward such an obscene plan, Colin Powell would have been all over him in a New York minute. Brave Colin Powell? I think not, just another hypocritical Obama supporter losing more and more respect as each day goes by.
Posted by: Babs | April 4, 2009, 3:52 am 3:52 am
Let’s see, government run health care – if the government decides you’re too old for expensive surgery that may prolong your life a few years, you’re dead. But those health dollars you were denied will be providing care for every illegal alien in this country. If you don’t see something wrong with this picture, you must be a “progressive”. And I really feel sorry for you.
Posted by: Babs | April 4, 2009, 4:02 am 4:02 am
talk about people jumping to conclusions. skimming over the comments here, I see that very few O drones are making a point other than to say that every republican comment is delusional because THEY think so or THEY think they know so. WHAT?!!
Since when do people in America have to bow down to other people in America? Oh that’s right, in the 1800s maybe? From all I see, coming from a conservative background is this:
BUSH=too much fiscal irresponsibility
OBAMA=off the charts fiscal irresponsibilty
When are people going to face the fact that following a political party as blind sheep will get us nowhere????? Why have so many political cycles taken place? Because of BLINDNESS.
OBAMA=BUSH CONTINUED PART 5
(trying) to MOVE ON.
Posted by: Gregg | April 4, 2009, 4:39 am 4:39 am
Wow I am just so impressed how this president has brought this country together/it is so evident by all the postings here that there is such unity among us(sarastic,sorry).
How’s that hope and change working out for you all??? I guess it is only hope and change if you agree 100% with this POTUS/ at least that is the take I get from the majority of the postings here. I did not totlaly agree with the last one so i will use my right as an American to disagree with this POTUS/according to the postings here I must then be left out of the process in spite of the fact that I pay taxes every year(over 200,000 income) and have voted in every election(even county and city every year)since my 1st vote in 1972.
Thank you all for the hope and change!!!!
Posted by: Karla1953 | April 4, 2009, 8:41 am 8:41 am
CHANGE HAS COME: JOBS ARE AT A STAND STILL! MURDER,CRIME & TAX RATE IS UP! AMERICANS CAN DO ANYTHING! THAT’S WHAT I HERE. YES YOU CAN, OUST THIS SOCIAL PIG. NOW THIS GUY CAN TELL YOU: WHAT YOU CAN MAKE & WHERE YOU CAN WORK. THE NEXT STEP IS WHO LIVES & WHO DIES OR HEALTH CARE REFORM. I RATHER TAKE MY BUSINESS & MONEY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY THAN LET THIS GUY STEAL IT FROM ME. THIS IS THE REASON WHY JOBS ARE NO MORE IN AMERICA. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT OTHER COUNTRIES TAX RATES & YOU DECIDE. I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO HIRE MY PEOPLE BACK, BUT AT THIS TIME IT’S (TO BE DETERMINED). I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN FOUR YEARS. I’LL BE ON VACATION UNTIL THEN.
THANKS,
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Posted by: MISSISSIPPI | April 4, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
The marbled doors of Wall Street, and the mortgage
companies, and the insurance companies, and Congress,
and the marbled doors of the White House, and IBM,
and Microsoft, and Harpo Productions; and the marbled
doors of Kodak, and Corning, and Johnson and Johnson;
and the marbled doors of peanut factory headquarters,
and pharmaceuticals, and Arthur Andersen, and Chase Bank,
and Lawyers Coop, and the Pentagon, and network tv,
and the Republican National Committee, as well as the
marbled doors of the big three automakers, and the
Democratic National Committee and the national banks;
are all guarded by armed policemen, outside.
Tell me something, if those policemen are there to stop
crime and catch criminals, ain’t they on the wrong side
of the door?
Posted by: j | April 4, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
on health care spending per capita, the United States is spending twice as much money than other developed countries practicing universal health care. The key is the cost of many medical service in US is many times higher than in Japan or Europe while spending high cost on health management. Why keep pumping big sum of taxpayers’ money into current profit oriented health care industries to widen the coverage for the uninsured. ?
Posted by: austin | April 4, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
Prompt Corrective Action Law, passed after the savings and loan crisis, which mandates that severely undercapitalized banks be promptly put into receivership is a mandate which the Bush Administration did not enforce and the Obama Administration is not enforcing. Bailouts should not have happened last year or this year!
Posted by: clm | April 4, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
While we are on the subject;
“The Obama administration is engineering its new bailout initiatives in a way that it believes will allow firms benefiting from the programs to avoid restrictions imposed by Congress, including limits on lavish executive pay, according to government officials.”
I would suggest going to msnbc.com and checking out these articles. Just goes to show, the more things “change”, the more they stay the same.
Posted by: Michiel W | April 4, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm
Gary, your response is making my very point. If we don’t understand the problem, we’ll never get to the solution. Energy independence by just tapping into our own oil reserves is not solving the greater geopolitical issue. Oil demand is growing around the world, making our enemies rich. We need new technologies to eliminate the need for oil… period. We need the rest of the world to follow in our footsteps. Even if tapping into our oil wells, or using nuclear energy would make us energy independent (which it can’t), that won’t get the rest of the world off oil. Our enemies will continue to grow stronger financed on oil demand from a growing China, India, etc… “Drill, baby, drill” is a solution for the wrong problem. How else can we change direction and lead the world off oil. Please give me the republican solution for bankrupting our Middle Eastern enemies. I am an independent, I will go with the best solution, but so far I am only seeing it come from 1 party.
Posted by: LI Chris | April 4, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
Bush screwed up be letting government get too big (spending too much) and not by people who are supposed to regulate and watch for crooks not doing their jobs. The democrats rightly attacked Bush and the republicans for those faults. I find it interesting however, that the democrats are going to fix it by spending much more than the republicans and letting government get much, much bigger. It will hit the fan when inflation hits in about one year or two. The regular person will start screaming when your utility bills double – and you have to pay more for everything because their utility bills have doubled. We are heading for much harder times than right now.
Posted by: ms1236 | April 4, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
We are not ready to just jump into new energy technology that does not exist. Also – those of you who like to make a point by calling other people morons or whatever, I was taught a long time ago by a very good teacher that “good people can disagree.” US citizens and the world were not calling republicans “morons” when Reagan was around. Republicans have gotten away from true conservative ideas. I do not necessarily agree with the Presidents socialist agenda – but I refuse to call him names or show dis-respect. He is the President duly elected as Bush was…twice.
Posted by: ms1236 | April 4, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Tom,
Do you enjoy your Socialist Fire Department and your Socialist Police Department and your Socialist Post Office and your Socialist Social Security………..Shut up you worthless blogger!
Posted by: Johnny | April 4, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
LI Chris,
I don’t understand how taxing oil into oblivion and shutting off our other resources will suddenly burst forth a new technology that all other countries will embrace and put Russia and Saudi oil sales in the tank. You have a little wishful thinking involved there. I’m not willing to sacrifice the United States to try to do in Russia and the Saudis. When we move forward as a strong nation, buoyed by our resources, innovation and technologies, we can deal with the problems other nations present. If we cripple our economy with heavy carb taxes and shut off access to developing other resources, we are in a weak position to deal with any of our problems at home or abroad.
Posted by: Gary | April 4, 2009, 4:34 pm 4:34 pm
Paul Krugman, liberal economist, recently mentioned that China is in a dollar trap of their own making. They wanted to keep the RMB exchange rate low compared to the Dollar so they can keep selling us cheap goods. They tied their currency to our Dollar by investing in Tbills. Now, China’s wealth is basically joined at the hip with ours. If there is going to be significant inflation of the dollar in the future, all of China’s investment wealth is going up in flames. It’s no wonder that they want a new super currency because they can’t sell their Tbills now without causing the dollar inflation they fear. Short of taking over our government, they have no hand to play aside from watching from the sidelines as we take more of their money to double down on this recession. Forget American partisan politics for a moment. If there is a definite good part of Obama’s epic budget, it is how we get to watch Hu Jintao and his communist party sit helplessly as we continue to take China’s money and spend it like a drunken sailor.
Posted by: T961585 | April 4, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
In the bad news department, shouldn’t one also be concerned that in addition to 100% of the Republican NO votes 20 Democrats also joined that group?
Posted by: Bill | April 4, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Republicans want to continue the same old failed policies of George Bush. They want to continue sending American jobs overseas with companies that utilize child labor.
Posted by: con me not | April 4, 2009, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
Gotta agree with Gregg. Being an independent is great because you actually look at the facts. Bush and the Republican Congress spent too much money the first 6 years and Bush and the Democratic Congress spent too much the last 2. I know a lot of Obama voters (according to a Pew poll about 60%) are completely unaware that the Democrats have controlled Congress for over 2 years now but it’s true. Bush even vetoed several spending bills his last year in office when he was trying to act like a fiscal conservative but the Democratic Congress overrode those vetoes so you really can’t blame all of the approx. $500 billion deficit left by Bush completely on him. I know it may sound crazy but Congress does bear a lot of responsibility for the deficit, as well as, the financial crisis we are in. They had plenty of warning this crash was coming and did nothing because most of them are just as greedy as the corporations and individuals involved in causing this mess. And if you support the insane increases in spending over the past few months then you should really seek help from a mental health professional because deriding one party for overspending and then praising your guy for spending quadruple that amount is just completely irrational. Also, the budget “blueprint” passed but now each package has to be voted on separately as the article stated so try not to get too excited about soaking those of us who work for a living so your savior, the government can take care of your every need. There is nothing adult about spending money you don’t have to pay for things you can’t afford. That mentality is what got us into this mess. The spending in the last 8 years and now the rapidly increased spending of the past several months is completely selfish, irresponsible and childish. It is the same as taking out a credit card in your child’s name, maxing it out, and saying screw them they can pay for it when I’m gone.
Oh, and to the poor guy who was whining about the Democrats not having any “dedicated” news channels for them, check out your facts. MSNBC is bought and paid for through their parent company GE who received $140 billion in bailout money. Don’t worry I thing Keith and Chris have your back!
Posted by: lorilei | April 5, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am
Gary, so what you are saying is stay the course. Because our approach to the Middle East, Russia, etc..has worked so well. Why the need for innovation if energy remains low cost? If you are so confident that we will lead the way in innovation, please tell me what will drive that. “We are a great country” is not a solid reason. Innovation needs a catylist. I am interested in your solution. Bin Laden’s goal was not to destroy America by force…it was to bankrupt America. And thus far, he is succeeding. Please tell me how we can bankrupt our enemies. Other wise, things will always be the same. You tell me Cap and Trade is not the answer…then what is?
Posted by: LI Chris | April 5, 2009, 1:39 am 1:39 am
I find it amusing that the very people bashing Obama… Would have been the very ones that would have had McCain and Palin elected if they had their way…
Just the thought of a McCain/Palin administration trying to handle all of the problems that Obama is dealing with would be a crisis within a crisis… Just Palin by herself is a walking disaster…
People criticizing Obama’s every word and deed are people who think that Cheney/Bush did a great job.
Bush, born with a silver spoon in his mouth had no conceptual idea of the middle class except that they may end up catching…trickles??? of economic growth if he took very good care of the wealthy and Corporations…
Which grew our great country of Capitalism into Corporatism leaving less and less of the middle class that is a must have for the wealthy to stay wealthy…And middle class consumerism, we see now is the power beneath powerful Corporations…
Bush was a weak President and the real power over the last 8 yrs was Cheney…
People calling Obama a Socialist?
Firstly, that is a very old, tired argument, Were these the same people pretend that Cheney was not a silent dictator standing right behind Bush???
They speak of Obama’s disregard for the constitution but, seem ok with Cheney bending and rewriting it the way he wanted it to be for his own beliefs…
My support is for this President and not to any Party… I note that the Republicans have positioned themselves in opposition to this President which puts me in opposition to The GOP…
Let that then be their stance… hoping that the President fails… if policies fail then the President fails… and the country fails…
Personally, I am happy to see that they unit under this one hope…of the Presidents failed polices…That they clamor together for their base and their beliefs.
Neglecting the mainstream, that voted in this President because we had more faith in his abilities to put the economy right and make the Changes we have asked him to make.
It is a big gamble on both sides… One side betting on the President and the other against him.
It is highly ironic that essentially betting along with greed and shortsightedness is what has caused the financial meltdown in the first place…
Posted by: theafalcon200 | April 5, 2009, 7:44 am 7:44 am
In the bad news department, shouldn’t one also be concerned that in addition to 100% of the Republican NO votes 20 Democrats also joined that group?
Hey Bill,,,
It’s no surpize that the party of “No” would no to the Obama’s budget. And there conservative Democrats which, I like in the mix… We need their voice and not just a party of NO…
What I find more interesting is that 38 Republicans had the good sense to vote against the Republican version of a so called Budget…
The Budget alternative that the House Republicans put together is laughable and will probably not be taken seriously even by Senate Republicans, although I really wish it would…
Posted by: theafalcon200 | April 5, 2009, 8:01 am 8:01 am
LI Chris,
If you are concerned that Bin Laden’s plan is to bankrupt the country, then be concerned about the current budget that will take us to 80% of the GDP. Historically our debt has always been at approx 40% of GDP. That leaves us little margin of error if (as always happens) government programs go over budget, we have another 911, another war, another Katrina. I’ll state again, our best defense is to keep our country robust and healthy. You can’t do that by smothering progress with cap and trade. (Which will also harm the elderly and those on fixed incomes, raise food prices, heating, transportation etc.) My suggestion was not to stay the course but to develop ALL options for energy that make economic sense. (We have the technology to do it cleanly.) We have not been doing that. We have blocked access to our resources. A healthy economy begets innovation and technology, which would deliver your best option for the technology that will make Russia and Saudi oil worthless. A depressed economy does not bring innovation to market.
Posted by: Gary | April 5, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Obama is often like a judge in being able to consider the other side’s position. In this way, he could have reached out to the conservatives in the other party and his own. But he is following party lines run by Reid and Pelosi. A large part of his budget focuses on education, CO2 cap and trade, and health care. The budget is basically 2 new spending programs and 1 massive new kind of tax that may or may not have any effect on the environment. I understand the need to raise taxes for the spending programs but I resent using the alarmist climate change agenda as wool over our eyes as we blindly raise a new kind of tax. Carbon trading in Europe has done nothing for the environment.
Posted by: T961585 | April 5, 2009, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
The Budget alternative that the House Republicans put together is laughable and will probably not be taken seriously even by Senate Republicans, although I really wish it would…
And you know what it was more Republicans voted against their onw budget and didn’t vote for Obama so what that tell me is the Repbuicans are just lose and have no vision of getting us out of this economy crisis.
Posted by: Republicans what a joke they have become! | April 6, 2009, 8:53 am 8:53 am
I don’t care if you don’t like my conservative ways. I dislike everything about any liberal, and I am glad, no proud that the GOP said no to BHO. I guess from what I read from the liberals on this blog, all us tax paying conservatives should just leave the US, well screw u, this country was built on the sweat of conservatives, and I have paid enough taxes to support a small country, maybe before you start mouthing off about your messiah, tell us, have you paid your taxes????? 1 in 5 appointees BHO wanted have had issues paying thier taxes, just like the minion that follow BHO. Everybody wants a free lunch, just cry to BHO, he send some help to his homies, cause you know we are all so arrogant…..
Posted by: beau | April 6, 2009, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm
BHO supporters, show your names, quit hiding behind “Republicans what a joke” act your age, if you want to slam someone, at least leave your name so we all know who you are, quit hiding behind your president. Your president thinks we are all arrogant, so act like it and let us know who you are. quit hiding…
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