The Note, 4/27/2009: Marks & Hallmarks — Can Obama’s popularity push less popular agenda?
By RICK KLEIN Welcome to the right track — where you can still hear the rumbling from the wrong track. Maybe Hallmark makes a card that sums it all up: “Congratulations! Hope the economy gets well in the next 100 days. May the pirates, the Netroots, the tea partiers, and the swine flu find a fairy tale to haunt instead . . .” Amid the 100-day glow, against the backdrop of all the drama he’s already experienced, President Obama’s central political challenge remains what it was on Day One (and may be the same on Day 1,000): The president is more popular than what he’s doing, and what he needs still to do. (There’s a deficit that definitely matters. If it doesn’t earn a Hallmark, it may yet leave a mark.) “What’s important is that he now enjoys the power of public confidence. He will need all the backing he can muster as he moves into what is likely to be an even more difficult phase of his presidency,” The Washington Post’s Dan Balz writes. “This we already know: Obama’s engaging opening act has captivated most Americans, judging by the polls,” Thomas M. DeFrank writes in the New York Daily News. (And look who’s taking credit for making it all happen in the first place.) Honeymoons won’t matter when it comes to the big items on the agenda — to say nothing of the big distractions that make themselves known. Of promises still to be fulfilled: “For all he and his supporters have to celebrate, overcoming political divisions — an Obama pledge — is not among them,” ABC Polling Director Gary Langer writes. “His 69 percent job approval rating in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll is almost exactly the average for an elected president at 100 days in polls back to Dwight Eisenhower. But it belies a more modern partisan gap: Ninety-three percent of Democrats approve. Only 36 percent of Republicans agree.” Remember that the latest storyline will stick around: “Overall, the public is about evenly divided on the questions of whether torture is justifiable in terrorism cases and whether there should be official inquiries into any past illegality involving the treatment of terrorism suspects,” Jon Cohen and Jennifer Agiesta write in The Washington Post. “About half of all Americans, and 52 percent of independents, said there are circumstances in which the United States should consider employing torture against such suspects.” His personal popularity only lasts so far. But maybe just so far is enough. “Obama is more popular than his policies; for instance, most Americans like him a lot, but they dislike his bank bailouts. Republican critics insist that this disconnect ultimately will bring him down, but they’re forgetting their history,” Dick Polman writes in the Philadelphia Inquirer. “Back in the ’80s, Reagan’s persona was always more popular than his agenda. Shortly after he marked his first 100 days, the Gallup Poll said: ‘While the public generally admires Reagan for his personal attributes . . . many people are either dubious or downright skeptical about the effectiveness of the president’s approaches to [the nation's economic] problems.’ “ Or at least it’s enough so long as he’s in motion. Jonathan Alter, in Newsweek: “Barack Obama has put more points on the board than any president since Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933, and his public investment greatly exceeds Roosevelt’s in constant dollars. The only president he falls short of is Lyndon B. Johnson in 1965. Even if you think he’s wrong, Obama deserves high marks for articulating a new vision and getting Congress to act. But he still gets an "incomplete" for the term. That’s because his ethos is to do ‘what works.’ Problem is, we don’t know yet what will.” Changes to believe in: “Bush focused on the Iraq war; Obama has placed more of an emphasis on Afghanistan. Obama wants the government to have a role in reshaping the nation’s health care system; Bush preferred to take smaller steps so individuals could buy private health insurance,” USA Today’s David Jackson writes. “If Bill Clinton once lamented that he didn’t have a true crisis during his presidency, Obama confronts the opposite environment and has responded with an agenda as broad as the range of troubles the nation faces,” Bloomberg’s Michael Tackett. Said Sen. Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn: “At the beginning of his presidency, President Obama is doing very well. . . . But I am afraid if you try to do 17 things at once, he won’t do the one or two things as well as he should.” Said David Axelrod: “We are just at the beginning of a long march.” A march through unpredictable territory continues with the swine flu. President Obama speaks Monday morning at the National Academy of Sciences’ annual meeting, in Washington — what better venue to reference the news of the day? Launched Monday: AOL’s “Politics Daily,” stacked with big names from political journalism. Carl Cannon likes the Obama style: “He is as velvety smooth as a cold glass of Guinness, this new president of ours–and even boasts a drop or two of Irish blood on his mother’s side — not to mention the good looks of a Kennedy, the even keel of a Roosevelt, the understated swagger of an Eisenhower. He has riding shotgun with him a First Lady who is simultaneously hip and squared away, and two little girls so pretty and poised they might have come from Central Casting.” (Don’t miss Walter Shapiro on President McCain’s first 100 days: “Nothing better symbolizes McCain’s man-in-the-arena emulation of TR than his impromptu mid-February flight (the White House press corps was given 45 minutes’ notice before departure) to Johnstown, Pa., in the midst of a protracted showdown with Congress over the stimulus package. Fulfilling his oft-repeated campaign pledge to make the authors of earmarks ‘famous,’ the president stood in the eerily empty main concourse of the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport on a Friday afternoon and mockingly declared: ‘This isn’t an airport in need of stimulus money. This is a museum of wasteful government spending.’ “) One source of maybe a little angst: “Even while trying to do big things, Obama has shown a pragmatic side. Instead of blowing up the status quo and starting over in fashioning healthcare and financial reforms, he aims to build on what already exists,” Linda Feldmann writes in the Christian Science Monitor. Defying labels: “Obama, on the whole, has been as crisp a decision maker and as calm an influence on his aides and his country as he was during the campaign,” E.J. Dionne Jr. writes in his Washington Post column. “But the most intriguing aspect of Obama’s presidency so far may be the way in which he combines intelligence and intellect.” McClatchy’s Steven Thomma: “At the 100-day mark, he’s putting his own style on the presidency. Opportunistic. Pragmatic. Confident. Deliberate. Polite to friend and foe alike. Partisan. Polarizing. A better talker than George W. Bush. A more disciplined manager than Bill Clinton.” “Far more than anything else, President Barack Obama’s first 100 days have been marked by an ideological shift to traditional Democratic policies in tackling the U.S. recession,” Reuters’ Steve Holland writes. “How much of his agenda he will be able to navigate through the Democratic-controlled U.S. Congress remains an open question, because even some Democrats fret at the costs — for starters, a record $3.55 trillion budget for fiscal 2010.” The deficits that can make it all crash down: “The small stuff, such as Obama’s directive to his agencies to cut a total of $100 million from their budgets, may score political points for the president,” Bloomberg’s Al Hunt writes. “He’s talked a good game on some of the bigger-ticket items, while showing no inclination to fight for them. His apologists say he has higher priorities. If it persists, this will produce one of two train wrecks: decimating his health-care and energy initiatives or imperiling a long term, fiscally sound economy.” The politics that can make it all crash down: “Since last year’s campaign, President Obama has vowed repeatedly not to increase taxes for families making less than $250,000 a year,” Lori Montgomery and V. Dion Haynes write in The Washington Post. “That pledge, while politically popular, has left him with just two primary sources of funding for his ambitious social agenda: about 3 million high-earning families and the nation’s businesses. . . . Across the nation, many business owners are watching anxiously as the president undertakes expensive initiatives to overhaul health care and expand educational opportunities, while also reining in runaway budget deficits.” Wait — you sure he wants this? Politico’s Jonathan Martin: “With the still-boiling debate over torture ongoing, one of the Big Three car companies on the verge of bankruptcy and even an outbreak of swine flu dominating the headlines, Obama and his aides may be able to lessen the focus on the traditional milestone they deride as an overwrought ‘Hallmark holiday.’ “ Rarely a positive development: “"Maybe there’s an element of settling old political scores here,” Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” of the push for investigating Bush-era interrogation techniques. “We need to put this behind us, we need to move forward.” On the memos, Obama “looked like a willow bending beneath hot winds from his hyperliberal base, which still luxuriates in loathing the Bush administration,” George Will writes for Newsweek. “Obama shut the door on possible prosecutions of Bush officials for authorizing torture, then two days later he left the door ajar. But to read the memos is to realize what quicksand the Obama administration would step into if it tried to hold the authors of them legally accountable.” What do conservatives want out of this? Pajamas Media’s Jennifer Rubin: “Conservatives are torn. On the one hand, a ‘truth commission’ to investigate enhanced interrogation techniques employed by the Bush administration would criminalize policy differences, potentially tag the Bush administration’s good faith efforts to prevent a second 9/11 as “war crimes,” and tear the country asunder. All that strikes conservatives as dangerous in the extreme. And yet … the temptation to plunge into the abyss is palpable.” Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, scrambling the deck. ABC’s George Stephanopoulos pressed him repeatedly over whether Iran would recognize Israel if the Palestinians agreed to a two-state solution: “Whatever decision they take is fine with us,” he said. “We are not going to determine anything. Whatever decision they take, we will support that. We think that is the right of the Palestinian people, however we fully expect other states to do so as well.” On talking nukes without preconditions: “No, No,” Ahmadinejad replied. “We should just have a clear-cut framework for talks. The agenda should be clear.” Also causing reverberations back home: “The Obama administration, already on treacherous political ground because of its outreach to traditional adversaries such as Iran and Cuba, has opened the door a crack to engagement with the militant group Hamas,” the Los Angeles Times’ Paul Richter writes. (Today on ABCNews.com’s “Top Line” — the Israeli perspective, with Ambassador Jeremy Issacharoff, Israel’s deputy chief of mission to the United States.) Taking credit where it’s (maybe) due. (What does this mean for relationships in the Senate?) “Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid encouraged Barack Obama to run for president in early 2007, telling the then-freshman senator if wanted the White House, he could win it, according to an epilogue to Reid’s autobiography to be released next month,” the Las Vegas Sun’s Lisa Mascaro. “Reid said he invited Obama to his office off the Senate floor ostensibly to discuss other matters. But actually the majority leader brought the young senator in to tell him, as Reid writes in the book, ‘If you want to be president, you can be president now.’ ” Mascaro continues: ” ‘I think he was kind of surprised by the conversation,’ Reid told the Sun last week. Reid could not recall the exact date of their talk. Obama filed papers to run in mid-January 2007, with a public plan to announce his formal candidacy almost a month later. “This new, final chapter is a game-changer in the Reid-Obama relationship and reveals a deeper and potentially more intimate bond between the two men than Washington may have realized. The disclosure also forces a reassessment of Reid’s steadfast neutrality during the prolonged Democratic presidential nomination of 2008.” Taking stock when it’s (maybe) overdue: “Only 614 more days until 2010 and a new Congress,” Carl Hulse writes in The New York Times. “Republicans point proudly to their ability to close ranks, noting that only three Senate Republicans backed the $787 billion economic stimulus measure (though they provided the crucial margin of victory) while not a single Republican voted for budgets approved by the House and Senate. They rightfully note that they have so far held the line against a measure that would ease union organizing in the workplace. “They say they are reconnecting with their core voters by emphasizing what they see as profligate Democratic spending. And they believe they are laying the groundwork for a comeback by putting themselves solidly on the right side of multiple issues in preparation for a public souring on the Democratic agenda on spending, health care, energy, etc.,” Hulse writes. Making their jobs easier: Rep. John P. Murtha, D-Pa. “A string of federal criminal investigations of contractors or lobbyists close to Mr. Murtha, the top Democrat on the defense appropriations subcommittee, are threatening to undermine his backroom clout,” David Kirkpatrick reports in The New York Times. “In the weeks since the news that prosecutors had raided the offices of the PMA Group — a lobbying firm founded by a former Murtha associate that became a gateway to his office and his biggest source of campaign money — about two dozen rank-and-file Democrats have risked his wrath by calling for a House ethics investigation of the matter. One Democrat has even foresworn seeking earmarks for the military contractors in his district because of ethical concerns about the process.” Can he avoid this fight? How’s this for lobbying: “The evolution in public policy concerning the manufacture, sale and possession of semiautomatic assault weapons like AK-47s, AR-15s and Uzis has been very disturbing. Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and I all supported a ban on these formidable firearms, and one was finally passed in 1994,” former President Jimmy Carter writes in a New York Times op-ed. “Even as Obama has packed his agenda during his first 100 days in office, he has mostly bypassed the contentious gun issue, despite its importance in Chicago and other urban areas,” John McCormick writes in the Chicago Tribune. Per ABC’s Jake Tapper, President Obama took advantage of the nice weather Sunday and went golfing — and lost to trip director Marvin Nicholson. The Washington Examiner’s Julie Mason: “Obama may have hit the links, but the White House still kept news photographers far away — now that he’s president, there are no actual shots of him playing.” Newsweek’s Holly Bailey writes on Obama’s struggles with bubbles — the security kind. The Kicker: “I like engaging with people.” — Vice President Joe Biden, having engaged with “60 Minutes” for a piece. Don’t miss “Top Line,” ABCNews.com’s daily political Webcast, hosted by Rick Klein and David Chalian, at noon ET. Monday’s guests: Ambassador Jeremy Issacharoff, deputy chief of mission in Israel’s Washington embassy, and Jennifer Rubin of Pajamas Media and Commentary Magazine. Follow The Note on Twitter: http://twitter.com/thenote For up-to-the-minute political updates check out The Note’s blog . . . all day every day:
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Of course it will allow Obama to take over the country with liberal support and the Media support. But all dictators shoot the media in highly publicized firing squads. Learn from history you scag media tabloid trash scum.
IT REPEATS ITSELF OVER AND OVER AGAIN
Posted by: rang | April 27, 2009, 8:22 am 8:22 am
Americans have discovered that the promises of the Obama agenda justify the more liberal means of achieving it. And the GOP is not even close to being viable opposition, so not too much to worry about.
http://www.political-buzz.com/
Posted by: matt | April 27, 2009, 8:40 am 8:40 am
“Only” 36% of Republicans like Obama? That’s saying ALOT! Considering that ONLY about 26% of Americans now identify themselves as Republicans (the Rush Limbaugh/Hannity/Glenn Beck hardcores), 36% is a darn good number!
Go Obama!!!
Posted by: Julie in VT | April 27, 2009, 9:28 am 9:28 am
OBAMA a dictator oh come on now after 8 years of Bush “The Decider” who thought
it did not have to abide by laws passed by Congress where persons who disagreed
with him were “un-american” and where
our rights and liberties were jepadized
by the PATRIOT Act. MCA and the Protecte America all in the name of protecting the Country Obama is far from being a dictator. It has been Conservatvie poliices that brought us to
the situation we have now not Liberal,
As always Conservative policies wind up being disatorous for the country and it takes Liberal ones to fix them.
Posted by: MiCHAEL S. SMITH | April 27, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am
Oh yes they are working hard to “cut pork barrell spending from the budget”. I just read where they approved 9.1 million dollars in “bonuses for Congressional Aids and 2.5 million for pay raises for the “WONDERFUL LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY”. This at a time when people are losing their Jobs, Health Care and Homes. Now I would say that they are “WORKING HARD TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE” would’nt you. When will they quit rubbing the salt in our face. Remember any of the cuts they are making with our pay, health care, or Social Security apply’s to their benefits. Theirs will stay in place and even increase when they feel they need a raise. Good job “YOU WONDERFUL LEADERS”. Keep rubbing it in until you reach the point that “ALL OF YOU” are voted out. It is just a shame that we can’t take your pensions and health care. You have passed laws to make sure no matter what happens that you will still recieve these bennefits even if you go to jail. I don’t believe you people. You have no conscience what so ever.
Posted by: Don Park | April 27, 2009, 9:48 am 9:48 am
Oh yes they are working hard to “cut pork barrell spending from the budget”. I just read where they approved 9.1 million dollars in “bonuses for Congressional Aids and 2.5 million for pay raises for the “WONDERFUL LEADERS OF OUR COUNTRY”. This at a time when people are losing their Jobs, Health Care and Homes. Now I would say that they are “WORKING HARD TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE” would’nt you. When will they quit rubbing the salt in our face. Remember any of the cuts they are making with our pay, health care, or Social Security does “NOT” apply to their benefits. Theirs will stay in place and even increase when they feel they need a raise. Good job “YOU WONDERFUL LEADERS”. Keep rubbing it in until you reach the point that “ALL OF YOU” are voted out. It is just a shame that we can’t take your pensions and health care. You have passed laws to make sure no matter what happens that you will still recieve these bennefits even if you go to jail. I don’t believe you people. You have no conscience what so ever.
Posted by: Don Park | April 27, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am
The GOP is fast becoming the NOP “no party,” Megan McCain is their only hope; however the NOP has been known to eat their young.
I wonder if they will eat their old once all the young ones have been consumed. What will do they do their middle age like Michael Steel? My guess is; after the 30 lashes Rush gave Mr. Steel he will be too afraid to ever speak out again. Oh well he will just have to smile and be happy with his new title (Symbolic Diversity Mascot)
Posted by: THAT ONE | April 27, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Megan is probably the one person who can save the NOP “NO PARTY” but since the “NOP” eat their young – it will not be long before she finds herself on their menu. I wonder – will they list her as an entrée”‘ or desert?
Posted by: THAT ONE | April 27, 2009, 10:11 am 10:11 am
Americans will wake up once they see what Obama’s policies do to this country. The problem is, we have so many dumb people who can vote. Many of them only watch the liberal news and don’t find out for themselves. By that time it will be too late.
and the GOP becoming the “NO” party.. Whatever, again this is a perfect example of someone who only watches the MSM. Contrary, the GOP has put forth alternatives. Problem is, obama and team don’t even listen.
Posted by: chad | April 27, 2009, 10:18 am 10:18 am
“Of course it will allow Obama to take over the country with liberal support and the Media support. But all dictators shoot the media in highly publicized firing squads. Learn from history you scag media tabloid trash scum. IT REPEATS ITSELF OVER AND OVER AGAIN”
Posted by: rang | Apr 27, 2009 8:22:51 AM
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[no doubt rang is a former boy scout and alter boy, and helps old ladies cross the street]
I suppose rang agrees that talk radio media [Rush] is scum.
President Obama was elected into office by the majority of this country, so ‘taking over’ bad policy, and turning to more positive is exactly why he was voted into office.
Posted by: gus amaral | April 27, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am
“and the GOP becoming the “NO” party.. Whatever, again this is a perfect example of someone who only watches the MSM. Contrary, the GOP has put forth alternatives. Problem is, obama and team don’t even listen.”
Posted by: chad | Apr 27, 2009 10:18:48 AM
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Doesn’t it stike you odd, Chad that a majority of news sources: public radio, foreign press, public television, major newspapers worldwide have reported at least once that the GOP has developed a reputation as the ‘NO’ party.
Are you awake & aware?
Posted by: gus amaral | April 27, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am
With barry as prez, it’s a great time to be our enemies and a terrible time to be our friends. He insults Britain with DVD’s, and he gives the thug dictator chavez a “what up bro” handshake.Barry wants to release or give hugs to the nutjobs who want to blow us up, and he wants to prosescute those who interrogated them to keep us safe.
Only an anti-American liberal could rationalize that pouring water down kalik shaik mohammed’s nose, in order to obtain info that ended up saving THOUSANDS of lives around the brooklyn bridge and Los Angeles, was not necessary.
Posted by: Dave | April 27, 2009, 10:56 am 10:56 am
The Democratic party is the party of “OH NO!”
Posted by: Kitty | April 27, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
Dave, your dedication to lunacy is admirable.
Posted by: Silky | April 27, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Gus…. just like i said. in fact re-read my post. It’s people like you that only listen or read the NYT or msnbc. If they say the party of “no” over and over it becomes reality to the weak minded. If you looked recently, the GOP has an alternative budget. They also had an alternative stimulus. Did you not hear the details? of course you didn’t. The only media outlet that covered it was fox and conservative talk. ABC, CBS, NYT, NBC, CNN did NOT cover the alternatives. CNN mentioned it and that was it. NO details. Had you learned the details you like many other Americans would see that the party of NO is non-existent. In fact, Tell me, were the dem’s the party of “YES” in your mind during Bush?
Posted by: chad | April 27, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Whatever you say, Dave. Just remember to take your meds. You have to take them for them to work.
“If you looked recently, the GOP has an alternative budget.”
Link?
Posted by: Silky | April 27, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
“..If they say the party of “no” over and over it becomes reality to the weak minded.”
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How about if one determines -on their own- by using a variety of sources and thoughtful reasoning, what constitues a party of negativity[No]?
that’s what bright people do – they don’t rely on one news source to think or speak for them.
very telling chad.
Posted by: gus amaral | April 27, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad”
Posted by: Silky | April 27, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am
“Calling [The President of the united States] ..anti-American is completely accurate. He loves this country like oj loved nicole.
Posted by: Dave | Apr 27, 2009 11:20:14 AM
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Just when you think it isn’t possible, Dave’s stooped to an all time low.
Great argument Dave [sigh].
you’ve gone from your own twisted fabricated political history to Hollywood tragedies.
Ever read a book Dave?
Posted by: gus amaral | April 27, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am
The GOP has had an alternative budget… don’t spend 3 trillion dollars in your first 30 days in office.
Bush spent 700 billion for the bank bailouts and it flopped miserably. 1/2 the $$ can’t even be accounted for. Now barry has decided to triple what bush spent in his first 100 days as prez(and bush had 8 years).
The liberals are such mindless zombies. They used to complain and complain about the “defict under bush”, now barry has come up and tripled it, and they still follow him shouting change! change! because they all think they are going to get a new pair of shoes from the gov’t.
Posted by: Dave | April 27, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
Ever lived outside the USA gus?
Ever even moved out of your parents’ basement?
Posted by: Dave | April 27, 2009, 11:44 am 11:44 am
Dave,
you are full of p*ss & vinegar this morning!
take a break from bowling & Keno this weekend?
Posted by: gus amaral | April 27, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am
He’s full of something.
Posted by: Silky | April 27, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
Dave doesn’t understand the hypocracy of his disrespect for the office of the Presidency, while claiming to be Mr. Patriot.
Posted by: Silky | April 27, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
WASHINGTON: The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, one of the nation’s largest and most politically active labor unions, and Americans United for Change, a labor advocacy group, have joined together to produce a TV ad that mashes clips of Republican congressional leaders’ reactions against the $787 billion stimulus package with Rush Limbaugh’s opposition to the White House initiative.
Posted by: gus amaral | April 27, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Talk about junk numbers.
about .5% of people called them selves independent that voted and they made up 25% of the survey? Republicans were about 46% of the vote in the last election and they made up about 25% of the survey and the rest of the survey about 50% was democrats. THESE approval numbers are junk. DID ANYONE see the protests? EVERYONE is denying they happened because people acted with a high level civility. WOW what a news!
Posted by: ChicagBob | April 27, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
WE NEED ONE HUGE July 4th Tea party. Maybe overwhelm Washington. Or somewhere else. ENOUGH JUNK NEWS and messed up poll numbers
Posted by: ChicagBob | April 27, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
Despite the likes of Dave & Chad, I AM ENCOURAGED! RealClearPolitics today reported its polling on “President Obama’s “Job Approval” rating as follows; (the 7 Major Polling Sources) RCP Averages -
Approval: 61.9% and Disapproval: 30.7%.
AND the FOX NEWS Polls, The Pillar of Ultra Conservatism and Anti-Moderate Thought reported -
Approval: 62.0% and Disapproval: 29.0%.
To think of FOX having a “Total Statistical Delta” of a mere 1.54% off of the Most Reliable Poling Source in the U.S. is miraculous!!! Maybe we’re turning the corner on “untruthful reporting?” (Atleast I can have Hope.)
This does however show that Dave and Chad either don’t read, or they’re completely “out of touch!”
Posted by: bobj72 | April 27, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
yea ChicagBob,
Let’s let you get Stupid [again]!
How about this time you take your t e a b a g g i n g to a place more ‘appropriate’. [There are clubs in big cities specializing in those types of activities...'overwhelm' away]!
Posted by: gus amaral | April 27, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
The tea parties have largely been a big bust. Few hundred people. Far cry from the thousands predicted. I will bet if you asked every one of those atteneding which of their federal or state services they’d like to do without in order to reduce their taxes, they’d suddenly become mute.
Posted by: William J. LePetomane | April 27, 2009, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
I read an editorial in the NY Daily News today. The topic was how the conservative right wing, like Dave and Chad, tell us over and over that we are wrong. We are wrong to like Obama. We are wrong to support his policy. We are wrong to believe that the majority approve of how things are going so far. The polls are wrong, everyone is wrong.
Nevermind the fact that less than 30% are against pretty much everything that Obama stands for and wants to have happen. Nevermind that the majority of America voted for Obama and the Congress/Senate we currently have. No, we are wrong. We dont know what we are talking about, believe, nothing. I find it kind of insulting.
I try hard to discuss facts, reality, positive things. I try to not worry about what I cannot control and focus on what I can control or impact change upon. But people like Dave and Chad, they want to argue. They want to spoil the positives that we are seeing. They are more interested in dividing than uniting. Why?? Because to them, in their simple minds, that would mean a tacit approval of Obama. How insane is that? Working together is out of the question for these kinds of people.
These same people claim to love America. They claim to have the best interests in mind when they argue their points. But what do they do to show that love? What are they doing to make this country a better place to live? I think we all know that answer. It is easier for these people to behave like little children. If they don’t get their way, completely, then they throw their little fits. Call us all crazy. Call us “liberals” or “socialists” because we are trying. And all the while spread their divisive, hate filled lies and innuendo. Nothing good comes out of these people.
It really is easy to find common ground. Take one point, like abortion. No matter what side you are on, we can all agree that we need to reduce the amounts of unwanted pregnancy. But supporting family planning is taboo to the right wing. Solutions like this, not even considered. We need to get past that mindset, and work together on the commonality of our beliefs. It can be applied to everything.
Obama is our president. He will be so for at least the next 3+ years. Longer if the majority of us have our say. Is it wrong to want to work together with Dave and Chad and the rest of you Obama Haters? I don’t think so. How can we get things accomplished without everyone chipping in? We can’t. I know that seems to be the underlying plan of some, to try and undermine all the positives, but that is childish. Grow up!! Act like a responsible adult. Help out. We are ready to accept your help and work together. I do know that for a fact. Make it happen.
Posted by: John | April 27, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
Dave: “The GOP has had an alternative budget…don’t….”
And that’s why we call them the Party of No. Even their budget is basically one big “No.”
Posted by: jock59801 | April 27, 2009, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
“I read an editorial in the NY Daily News today. The topic was how the conservative right wing, like Dave and Chad, tell us over and over that we are wrong. We are wrong to like Obama. We are wrong to support his policy. We are wrong to believe that the majority approve of how things are going so far. The polls are wrong, everyone is wrong. – John”
Yes, I read it, too. From a guy (Mike Lupica) who should stick to a topic he knows a little bit about, like sports. His analysis of politics, like yours is about as hackneyed and biased as it gets – he pretty much regurgitates leftwing talking points gleaned from Daily Kos and other sites.
These folks seem to forget, Obama won 53 to 47% – nearly half the country did not vote for him. And when one looks at the most unbiased polls, the numbers that approve vs disapprove of his job after 100 days isn’t much different. This president campaigned on being a uniter, not a divider, and he has turned out to be more divisive than anyone could have imagined. And if anyone tries to question the president’s many mistakes, or chooses to peacefully protest, we are suddenly “whiners”, “unamerican”, “dividers”.
It is truly incredible that people that did nothing but complain and bash everything the previous administration did for 8 years, suddenly has total amnesia of their own behavior!
Posted by: Bjohns | April 27, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
“The tea parties have largely been a big bust. Few hundred people. Far cry from the thousands predicted. – Bill LePew”
The age old liberal tactic: if you are going to tell a lie, might as well make it a whopper.
Posted by: Bjohns | April 27, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
South Carolina Senator states that Americans are “experiencing Buyer’s Remorse” following the election of President Obama? Even though President Obama’s approval ratings are currently even higher.. ..than the percentage who voted him in (which itself was solid)? Uh huh…
President Obama enjoys the approval of Americans overall on every major issue: Iraq (63 percent approval), the economy (61 percent), foreign policy (59 percent), Afghanistan (56 percent) and terrorism (55 percent). He is widely seen as a different kind of politician, one who Americans say cares about them and can unite different groups. Most say he has already made progress on critical issues and that he is tough enough to make the hard decisions required of a president. only 21% were self-declared Republicans, the lowest number in decades.
People like Chad, Dave, and ChicagBob live in an alternate reality. No rasoning with them because they have no reasoning skills.
Posted by: sandy | April 27, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
CBS/NYTIMES Poll: Poll: 100 Days In, High Marks for Obama
Mr. Obama enjoys the approval of Americans overall on every major issue: Iraq (63 percent approval), the economy (61 percent), foreign policy (59 percent), Afghanistan (56 percent) and terrorism (55 percent). He is widely seen as a different kind of politician, one who Americans say cares about them and can unite different groups. Most say he has already made progress on critical issues and that he is tough enough to make the hard decisions required of a president. Only 21% were self-declared Republicans, the lowest number in decades. Nigh-on 70% approvals beg to differ with many bloggers here.
So you 21% keep on complaining – you no longer have a voice in this country. Your party is backing you into a corner and you are willing walking into it.
Torture is TORTURE! There is no way around it. Bush and his cohorts broke International law (you have heard of the Geneva Convention which we not only helped WRITE, we signed it! Then, they wrote memos to try and justify what they were doing and “rewriting” the law so that the end justified the means. The problem being there was no end – no reliable information ever came out of torture. Idiots like McCain and Gingrich have been against torture for years – yet now they are twisting themselves into pretzels tryng to defend torture. Such hypoocrits!
And just as a side note, it is not President Obama who is releasing the photos – it is the Pentagon.
Posted by: sandy | April 27, 2009, 10:18 pm 10:18 pm
Rasmussen reports (4-24-4/26, 1500 LV): 55% approval, 44% disapproval. 35% strongly approve, 30% strongly disapprove. Right track/wrong track (4/22): 57% heading in the WRONG direction, 37% in the right direction. Democrats: 61% in the right direction, Republicans: 11% in the right direction, unaffiliated: 27% in the right direction.
Posted by: Larson | April 27, 2009, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
FOX News Poll – the CONSERVATIVE Network – YOUR Network
Do you approve or disapprove of the job Barack Obama is doing as president?
22-23 Apr 09
Overall Approve 62% Disapprove 29%
Democrats Approve 92%
Republicans Approve 24%
Independents 57%
Only 21% of voting populace is self-declared Republicans, the lowest number in decades!! And 24%of Republicans APPROVE of the job President Obama is doing!!!! And look at those Independents who approve of the job President Obama is doing!!!! Must have killed you neocons when YOUR network polled such positive numbers for President Obama!!!
Posted by: sandy | April 27, 2009, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
Bjohns | Apr 27, 2009 9:49:51 PM
You say; “These folks seem to forget, Obama won 53 to 47% – nearly half the country did not vote for him. And when one looks at the most unbiased polls, the numbers that approve vs disapprove of his job after 100 days isn’t much different.
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Any Interest in “The Gold Standard” of Unbiased, Professional & in-business-to do-Truthful-Polling; RealClearPolitics
(“RCP”). They report a daily listing of 7 – 9 Major Polling entities. RCP DOES NOT PARTICIPATE, but only provides the statistics which make up the RCP Composite Average.
This week their reports include the following “Top 7″ Polling enterprises;
CBS News/N.Y. Times, CCN/Opinion Research, Gallup, Rasmussen Reports, ABC News/Wash. Post, FOX News and Marist. All polls are equally weighted.
The statistics Polled 4/27/09 (today) which will be posted 4/28/09 (tomorrow) are the following for President Barack Obama’s “JOB APPROVAL RATINGS” are the following RCP Average:
APPROVAL 62.4% and DISAPPROVAL 30.7%.
The FOX News Poll(Very Conservative) was
APPROVAL 62.0% and DISAPPROVAL 29.0%
Your assertion was; “53 to 47% – nearly half the country did not vote for him. And when one looks at the most unbiased polls, the numbers that approve vs disapprove of his job after 100 days isn’t much different.”
Your statement IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD! Compared to the RCP Poll Report Your APPROVAL RATING of 53% -vs- 62.4% (-9.4% / 62.4%) is a Discrepancy that Understates the actual by 15.2%. And the DISAPPROVAL RATING OF 47.0% (+16.3% / 30.7%) is a Discrepancy that
Overstates the actual by 53.1%. Which means your Total Discrepancy is OFF A COMBINED 68.3%!
This IS NOT offered as a “Gotcha”, but simply as “clarification of pubicly published data.”
Posted by: bobj72 | April 27, 2009, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
bobj72, my statement above was based on the Rasmussen poll, which tends to be the most accurate. The RCP as you accurately describe, is a compilation of 7 polls, however, as you conveniently leave out, 4 of which are blatantly biased.
I said the election results vs that poll weren’t much different, which is entirely accurate.
By the way, apparently statistics are not your strong suit. One does not add “discrepancies”, but it was a humorous exercise!
Posted by: Bjohns | April 27, 2009, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Larson | Apr 27, 2009 10:54:50 PM
You should be embarrassed. You said; “Rasmussen reports (4-24-4/26, 1500 LV): 55% approval, 44% disapproval.” …….
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Bjohns “Just threw out some numbers, and he was OFF A COMBINED 68.3%! Rasmussen Reports DID THE POLLING and they’re OFF A COMBINED 55.2%!!! Rasmussen Reports CONSISTENTLY Publish a Report with the GREATEST DEVIATIONS from the Actual Statistical Norms, to the extent They are LAUGHABLE!!!
I would say ANYONE who would use the Rasmussen Reports as their Primary Source of information, is either politically gullible and immature OR fully intends to Risk the Loss of
Credibility – all together!
Posted by: bobj72 | April 27, 2009, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm
johns | Apr 27, 2009 11:36:23 PM
By the way, apparently statistics are not your strong suit. One does not add “discrepancies”, but it was a humorous exercise!
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No, I’m well aware of the fact that statistically it’s incorrect to “add” discrepancies. (And NO Statistics is not my ‘strong suit’, but I have a reasonable ability to interpret data.) My intent on this matter was to NOTE YOUR DISCREPANCIES (glad you agree on “discrepancies”) Compared TO THE NORM, to humor you! The bottom-line is; You were at fault for offering up some data was was GROSSLY Inaccurate!!!
AND You continue to Make GROSSLY FALSE STATEMENTS, i.e., YOU SAID; “my statement above was based on the Rasmussen poll, which tends to be the most accurate.” ???
There is ABSOLUTELY No Way IN THE WORLD you can defend this statement! I THINK You’re too smart, to be this ignorant.
NOTE paragraph 2 above, 11:47:49 PM. All anyone has to do, is go to the RCP website and the composite poll “comes right up.” (with the Rasmussen Report “way out of step with the 6 other Polls.) And “Bam”, you’d be busted as a Fraud, a Liar or a guy with NO Credibility.
BTW, how do you rationalize FOX News (“the Church & Bible of the NeoCons”) with their Poll being “Right On” the RCP Composite Average? AND so Far OFF of Rasmussen??? : > )
Posted by: bobj72 | April 28, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am
President Obama is doing a wonderful job and anyone who thinks otherwise is a Republican Rush Limbaugh koolaid drinking disciple. Most Americans view Rush Limbaugh,Sean Hannitty and Glen Beck as comedians! Republicans are in the minority now so that is great news..Republicans get all their news from Rush the comedian Limbaugh..All the Republican bloggers on this site are Limbaugh disciples. Most of the country supports president Obama…that is great news!
Posted by: Stanley | April 28, 2009, 4:29 am 4:29 am
In just 100 days Obama has secured his place as the worst president of the modern era.
Ballooning deficits and debt, massive government programs, corporate takeovers and the inexorable creep of socialism (which has never once succeeded on the world stage) and the fate of his administration is set.
Posted by: Erik | April 28, 2009, 10:30 am 10:30 am
President Obama’s message hasn’t changed. “Yes, WE can,” was and is a statement of COLLECTIVE action. When he took the oath of office he also had to step into an elephant herd’s cumulative 8-year pile of deep doo-doo. WE, the citizens of this great country, not just the President, his administration and Congress, but ALL of US have to dig in to clean up that pile of manure, because we all have contributed to the gigantic mess — colletively, we embraced a culture of blatently shameless consumerism, the mantra of
which has been “Put it on the plastic,”
ignoring the fact all that “stuff” will eventually have to be paid for. a few members of that herd of elephants continue to trumpet the same old tune of “Me, ME, Me”, refusing to acknowledge they, along with the rest of America’s citizens, contributed and continue to make deposits to the pile and are equally responsible for cleaning it up. Beside the mess the new administration inherited, are new threats from old enemies, piracy on the high seas, the imminent threat of a new swine flu pandemic for which there is no vaccine. Sure, he’s made some mistakes in his first 100 days, but he acknowledges his mistakes to us all — and does his best not to repeat them. Those who only shoot off their mouths with criticism need to put up or shut up.
Posted by: nanameow | April 28, 2009, 10:54 am 10:54 am
Bjohns; 7:36 AM
O.K. I’ll submit to listening closer to whomever. But WHY is it YOU’RE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION;
“BTW, how do you rationalize FOX News Poll (“the Church & Bible of the NeoCons”) with their Poll being “Right On” the RCP Composite Poll Average? AND so Far OFF of the RASMUSSEN REPORT Poll???” : > )
OR do you NOT understand it?
Posted by: bobj72 | April 28, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am
Bjohns,
“All anyone has to do, is go to the RealClearPolitics website and the composite poll “comes right up.” (with the Rasmussen Report “way out of step with the 6 other Polls.) And “Bam”, YOU’D be busted as a FRAUD, a LIAR or a guy with NO CREDIBILITY.”
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