McCain Guru to Urge GOP to Back Gay Marriage

This dude needs to prepare to be excommunicated…
http://www.political-buzz.com/

The Repugs are dead.
Let the divisions continue.
The Greedy Old Pigs (GOP) are finished.

Steve Schmidt has a great platform to bring more Republican victories. The gist of his platform is this: “Liberal Democrats are right and you are wrong”. Steve Schmidt is going places. I can think of plenty of Republicans who can’t wait to tell him where to go. :)

Steve Schmidt has a great platform to bring more Republican victories. The gist of his platform is this: “Liberal Democrats are right and you are wrong”. Steve Schmidt is going places. I can think of plenty of Republicans who can’t wait to tell him where to go. :)
Posted by: Sean O’Brien – at last a republican who has figured out what is wrong with their party. They are wrong and Democrats are right!

This guy is not republican, he needs to switch parties—-better still just go away

This is foolish advice. I think that there are still more people who oppose gay marriage than those that support it. I’m one of those who oppose it, and I’m not even a Republican.

This guy is right. Marriage is a conservative institution with real rights and responsibilities. If you want to show you support such a conservative institution, you should recruit as many people into that lifestyle as possible. Converting liberal single gays into conservative married gay couples does a lot to dissipate the liberal single lifestyle gays currently have. Copnservative married gay couiples are more likely to support adoption over abortion and fiscal responsibility over Vegas-style banking.

No real ideology just doing whatever is necessary to get the most votes lol. I love it just become Democrats already, oh I forgot you still are anti-middleclass Americans.

“if you allow gay marriages to be granted, you are condoneing sodomy against children. Think about it. Your senses will catch up to all of you…”

If you accept that line of reasoning, you have to conclude that traditional marriage leads to heterosexual abuse of children.
Oh, yes, and did you know that extreme hard line pro-lifers promote the spread or Aids?
Think about it! They oppose the use of condoms, therefore they must be in favor of unprotected sex, therefore they promote the spread of Aids.

Maybe he can get the vatican to back abortion next. Then he can try to get the vegans to back eating meat. What a clueless fool.

To be gay or not (marriage) is the question? Since when. As it states in the bible, God loves all his children but where does it say it is ok with Him to prostitute or “choose” to be gay? He does and never has approved of this type of behavior. Neither do I? And for any priest, Rabbi, Reverand, Minister to be able to hold ‘a’ bible in his/her hand and ‘pronouce them as partners for life’? I don’t think so. Simply put until this issue goes away or gets defeated once and for all count me out. Meaning don’t shove it in my face go back, do your thing but behind those closed doors for the sake of others who feel as I do and I know I’m not the only one. Others for whatever reason choose not to express their opinions and that is their ‘choice’.

With all the people divorcing and cheating maybe the straight population is just fearful that gays will be better at the marriage thing, just as they are at revamping bad neighborhoods/city sections and then all the straights move in when it’s safe and cleaned up.

Jean: you seem to think other people are obligated to go to great lengths to avoid offending people like you. You feel entitled to go around the world without seeing anything you disagree with! I think if you are so concerned about seeing things you don’t like, you should do the world a favor and just stay home!

Sure, the GOP can approve of gay marriage, abortion, big taxes and a socialist form of government. But then why would we need two parties for that? We already have that choice with the Democrats. The guy is clearly out to destroy the Republican party with brilliant advice like this, because they’d lose 90% of their us as supporters. Let’s hear it for diversity. Ha.

With the divorce rate at around 50%, too many people cheating on their spouses, etc. I don’t think the sanctity of marriage is being taken very seriously right now. Honestly, I don’t see how two gay people wanting to be married will affect my marriage or anyone else’s. The only thing it will affect is to be a small boon to businesses involved in weddings as all the gay couples who have waited to get married will finally be allowed to.
This whole ‘controversy’ reminds me of the fears some had when bi-racial marriages started happening years ago. The fear-mongers used the same tired arguments: it isn’t natural, it will destroy marriage as an institution, blah, blah, blah. The arguments were silly then and they are still silly today.

The Evangelical based Republican party created by Karl Rove in 2000 will NEVER accept gay marriage and any Republican who suggests the party lessen it’s opposition won’t win the local, county, state and Federal House/Senate seats they hold. Certainly many Republicans believe that the hypocracy is quite evident, but so was slave holding. Sad. Really sad.

I like this idea, but fear we’d lose the election in 2012

Rick Hetrosexuals committ more crimes agaisnt children then homosexual do are u living in the stone ages or what.

this statement by mccains head GOP advisor is a big sign that the tipping point has been reached beyond which society won’t turn back, just like in the civil rights movement when society shifted enough to see that blacks shouuld have equal rights… the GOP needs to take back it’s original goals (listen to Ron Paul a bit)… but mark my words, Mccain’s daughter will blossom and grow and be a HUGE person to watch if the republicans are to ever survive… all you bush/cheney holdouts who follow rush limbagh and fox news (right wing extremists icall them) need to see your gig is up and you have painted yourself into a corner

With advice like that! Now why did McCain lose?

“if you allow gay marriages to be granted, you are condoneing sodomy against children.”—-Wow…..just wow!

what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

THe world is coming to an end! it’s foretold in prophecy. Kwasimoto predicted all of this!!!

Whats next after same sex marriage, do we allow marriage between people and animals, people and fish when will this sinful trend end.

It’s over for Republicans. They will never win in 2012.

Well McNutjob was in the navy, so he’s coming out of the closet, maybe he can marry one of the illegal immigrats he want’s to pardon. If he put’s on a dress he’ll look like Rosie O’Donnell. Maybe he’s been tapping his toe in the men’s room with Barney Frank and looking for young male pages.
Ex Republican

I for one am fed up of the Republicans lies and hypocrisy. All they do is whine about Obama. Obama is working hard and trying to improve things. Republicans like Rush and Hannity sit on their fat butts and whine and complain. They staged a tea party to protest Obama’s citizenship and complain about how they don’t like his policies. Yet, they have not made any new proposals. It’s always the same old “We cling to our guns”, “We want smaller government”, “We hate gays” nonsense. Unless they change their ways, their party is over.

Doesn’t McTwink do the voice of the old pedophile senior on Family guy. LOL
Ex Republican

Let the Republicans continue to do what they do best: lie and complain. They can continue to stage their tea parties. The rest of America can see through their tricks. We will stick it to them where it counts as we did in 2008: in the voting booths.

McCain? You mean that guy who takes his marching orders from Ted “Mary Jo” Kennedy? No thanks Johnnie, you’ve done enough harm with your Bob Dole-esue crash and burn campaign for ineptitude… No Republican would ever waste their time listening to you… Maybe that’s why you lost the support of your party, even before you lost the American people.

I photograph child abuse
who has been sodomize and…
any one in the right mind
says anal sex is normal.
hetro,gays, no matter
Posted by: rick
You photograph that stuff sicko! You should be locked up. Child porn is bad, but abused sodomized child porn is off the charts!

Listen…Listen…It’s not about religion and it’s not about rights (there is no constitutional right to marry)it’s about propogation. The natural act of heterosexual marriage is procreation (I know some can’t have kids, but that is not the point). Procreation increases the tax base. Very simple people. The natural act of homosexual marriage does not lead to procreation (yes some can artifically enseminate – but again this is not the point). Thus, the government has a vested interest in supporting heterosexual marriage and denying homosexual marriage, just like it supports all things that increase the tax base. Very simple precept.

Ah-The country is changing and heading for the future. Whether its same sex marriage or relationships with Cuba the days of the old Republican right wing etremist is coming to an end. No more all white, no more all Christian, no more closed minds and wanting to live in the past. In 1990 92 percent of this country claimed to be Christian or religous. Now its 62 percent. We are slowly becoming realist in this country and the days of making policy and laws on beliefs of a fable book are going away. I am so happy to see us starting to wake up and move to the future. Its going to happen so why not now. Cuba will become a better place as our country will when we open the doors and end the embargo. The world will become a better place and man will get along better with their fellow man when people can experiance eachothers cuture and worlds instead of everyone hiding behind political fences put up by old thinking, live in the past political idealist. Lets move the world forward. We all need eachother and that will become even more true as time passes. We live in a country that produces 5 percent of the world energy but consume 25 percent. We are already relying on communist China for money. As we open doors and knock down barriers we will see a one world under God instead of a one nation under God. And it wont matter what God one believes in. A higher power can be anything you want it to be. Religion or God to me is like the center of a bikes wheel and all the different spokes are the different religons that end up at the same center. Just nice to see us finally moving in the right direction. Its also ok if you do not believe in any God. Live and let live because we are all here on this earth together. My humble opinion

Oh come on…no one will argue with the “natural act of heterosexual” stand??? It all slips right back to religion and politics I guess.

This is a joke, right? Never were two things farther apart than the Republican party base and support for gay marriage. Might as well suggest they change their mascot to a flying pig.

Look at it this way:
-Business investment – Supports the economy, government supports through tax breaks.
-Home ownership – supports the economy, government supports via tax breaks on interest.
-Charitable donations – Supports the economy (in that there is that much less the goverment has to pay for), government support via tax breaks.
-Heterosexual marriage – natural outcome is children, which increase the tax base/economy (more tax payers), the goverment supports heterosexual marriage.
-Homosexual marriage – natural outcome is NOT procreation, no increase to the tax base, no government support.
SIMPLE.

shadrack meshak abednego; all of the crazy religious fanatics that make up the grand “OLD” republican “christian” american taliban party wingnuts will be posting here for hours on this subject. Beware the trolls of religion! gay marraige is going to bring america down , lol! i love it! over 50% of these “christians” DIVORCE every year and some marry again and divorce and mary again.so much for the “sanctity” of their christian marriages. what a farce!

Rgeier …. you don’t know what you are talking about. REAL republicans don’t hate “lil Bush” as you put it. REAL Republicans live by principles and so did Bush. Let’s just see what happens if a terrorist attack takes place under an Obama Administration (which kind of seems likely since they are telling our enemies exactly how to attack us and what our tactics will be if we do indeed capture them). Let’s see how many people still love Obama then. Everyone is a critic of Bush …. but you know what? He kept us safe since 9/11 and he didn’t do it by waltzing around bowing down to kings and telling foreign leaders that America is weak.

They do not have a right to use marriage.
Some day the people are going to turn on the homo’s.Then they will have to hide again.
All the looney left wing,”if it feels good,do it”,moro ns,will be taken care of…

johncopeland
Likes it where he craps.
Now doesnt that sound awful?
Why would you want to do something like that?
Sodom and Gomorrah my friends.
Follow the Lord.Your anger and name calling really goes away.

CAW?
deplomacy? Is that what your Barry used on those pirates?
He had them bring one of the pirates on board to negotiate and then ordered the navy to kill the the others….
Where was that deplomacy?????
CAW,you are a weird guy.

All the looney left wing,”if it feels good,do it”,moro ns,will be taken care of…
Posted by: Christian Conservative ———–Whats wrong with if it feels good do it. Should we only do what the right wing religous extremist approve of? 38 percent of this country isnt religous or Christian. In 1990 it was only eight percent. People are waking up and becoming realist. They know that we, as a nation cant and wont survive my putting up barriers and telling everyone how they should live based on right wing religous beliefs. Those days are numbered and that way of thinking is dying. I thank God for this change.

This is just one big mistake and America will pay the price for abandoning our long-held ideals and values. Our children will grow up in chaos, without a sense of the order of things, where God is a bad word and where anything-goes, as long as it isn’t common-sense.

CAW?
deplomacy? Is that what your Barry used on those pirates?
He had them bring one of the pirates on board to negotiate and then ordered the navy to kill the the others….
Where was that deplomacy?????
CAW,you are a weird guy.
Posted by: Christian Conservative —————By using deplomacy and neg. with the pirates is why they let the Navy ties a line between their ship and the pirates boat. What happened when we took them out would have been a lot harder if they had not allowed us to. That came from talking to the enemy and them intrusting us enough to hang themselves. Pretty smart strange guy.

omg a sane republican!.. talk about endangered species!

But CAW.They were just young kids.
It was deplomacy.And they negotiated with them,so they could murder them.
A little more talking and they would have given up.
President Bush would have handled it without unnecessarily killing young boys.

If Jesus were a Liberal he would condone murdering babies in the womb.
Jesus never sinned.
This is so easy:>

Christian Conservative ————–And you call me strange. Whatever my friend
Good come back CAW..

I for one am for gay marriage. It paves the way for me to by lovely canteloupe (I cut a hole in the side of it) to get hitched. I call my sweet fruit, Buster Brown.
I always knew I was different, even as a child, but thanks to my nurturing left wing kindergarten teacher and school therapist (they were lesbians). I learned it was ok to yearn to be with melons.
Sure I was teased and bullied, I had low self-esteem and would seek only large melons. I would only be with big fat watermelons.
Then one day, I was in the grocery market fruit and veggie aisle and who’d imagine of all places. I found true love. I am not embarrassed to say, I got a slice later on that night.
If marriage isnt between a man and a woman, well then hell! I sure be able to tie the knot with my precious melon.
And any woman should be able to marry her frozen banana lover (or cucumber if they swing that way)!
We will win the gay marriage. Someone asked whats next that we will fight for? That we always have to have some cause to fight for.
I nominate those whose parters are killed and eaten by vegans!
Vegans hate and kill and maim the partners we love!
Marriage for all and no more eating vegatables and fruits. (unless you eat them like I do *wink wink*)

Jesus would have never tolerated: greed,hate,bigotry.warmongering and torture. That’s what rightwingers are all about! Can you say:BAD CHRISTIAN!

Christian Conservative ———–Also Bush would have been watching TV and laughing and telling the American public he is doing everything he can or he would have just blown the pirates boat hostage and all right out of the water. I will bet on the latter.

CAW. Now your saying that you can talk to them until you are blue in the face and they would have never given up.
If that is true,then we should try to kill them all as soon as possible without diplomacy!
Barry would be so dissapointed in you.Its all about communication and diplomacy…
So now we pretend to be diplomatic and then when there close…POW!!! we shoot them:>
Liberals can never look down the road.
Hmmmm. I wonder if those other pirates are going to behead some of the other hostages??? Way to go President Barry!

I bet Christian Conservative admires Sarah Palin for her ‘family values’.
The Palin brood put the “D” in dysfunction. Obama is the candidate with the strong family values. Look at his sweet and well-behaved kids compared to the wacky Palin brood. In 2012 all we have to do is make Bristol Palin the poster child for Conservatives. That will expose the Republicans for the hypocrites that they are.

Alot of anti-Christian bigots all up in ABCNews.
Hate speech is hate speech no matter which side it comes from you dumb muthaf**ckas!

I guess abortion is the litmus test for if you are a christian (much to the surprise of most christians who voted for obama)… but lying about starting a war, torturing people,and dozens of other scandals involving the ‘christian party’ doesn’t matter… your logic is skewed and your flavor of christianity is just one of many… but keep preaching your fundamentalism, it is PRECISELY what has turned SO MANY towards the left

It’s actually difficult for me to believe that I was once a registered republican. The party could many years ago lay claim to being a fiscally conservative party. That hasn’t been the case for a very long time and is actually laughable to hear it still tossed about. The party has become the hateful crotchety old man party. And even though I am now a crotchety old man it still sounds older and crotchetier than even I can stand. It’s as though they have staked out every anti-US Constitution and personal freedom position they can find. Everyone knows that same sex marriage does not affect one person who isn’t gay. And anyone with even a superficial understanding of the US Constitution knows that opposing it is not only a lost cause but it’s just wrong. The spirit of the US Constitution is to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. Why is the Rep.party so hardheadly set on being and/or representing the tyrannical majority? Stand up for what’s right. Stand up for the constitution. You can’t go wrong with that.

Liberals can never look down the road.
Hmmmm. I wonder if those other pirates are going to behead some of the other hostages??? Way to go President Barry!
Posted by: Christian Conservative —————Your right. I cant speak for all liberals or anybody else like you think you can. However I tend to look up the road and to the future instead of living in the past and doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. Which by the way is a definition for insanity.

morethanpolite – to answer your question about what happened to the republican party, the answer is it was coopted into the party of bullies and power hungry and greedy… of course these people needed votes, so they duped the religitards into thinking they were the party of christianity and social conservatism (laughing at them behind their backs), and they also used the angry uneducated white poor folk by pandering to bitterness and being bullies… but what happened is their deck of cards collapsed right after the fiscal conservatives and get-out-of-my-bedroom republicans (i.e. Ron Paul types) jumped ship, leaving only the angry white bullies (limbaugh and fox news) and christian conservatives (abortion and being saved = litmus test for being president)… of course, this is what we now call ‘right wing extremism’ because these same people are livid and shocked (yes, they are shocked because they are not very bright) shocked because the “planet shifted left overnight” … of course this is their viewpoint, but the planet did not shift left overnight, it took 8 years of proof with the bush/cheney regime to show that greed and trickledown capitalism only helps a very tiny sliver of society at the very top of the food chain… of course the world breathed a hugh sigh of relieve last november (i can still feel it watching the election results come in)

Boy is this easy!!!!

Christian Conservative – you tell us not to name call but if you go back a few of your posts, you will see you are exactly guilty of this same crime… typical hypocritical born again christian… calling people “weasle” and “Queen hugger” and “president barry” and “morons” and “weird” and “mrs. barry rubbing her all up”… now apologize and say your penance lest you end up in hell like the rest of us!

christian conservative – if the heaven you so precisely know all about is as you describe it, i think i’ll pass… especially if it is inhabited by the likes of the fundamentalist born again christian extremists

earth_not_flat!
That is exactly what I said.Not going to heaven is your own choice.
God isnt punishing you by not letting you into heaven.He is giving you your own choice about it.
And earth_not_flat.You have chosen to not go.

It’s about time we let this issue go. Gay and lesbian families should be treated equally under the law. Let churches do their own thing, but when it comes to the government, it has no business discriminating against gays.

I do apologize for the weazle and the moron.
But why is Barry,Queen hugger, weird” and “mrs. barry rubbing her all up”
That is his name and that is what Mrs O did.
And CAW is a little weird in the cute sort of way:>

earth_not_flat perhaps you’re right. It happened slowly and subtly. And I look at comments like the one from “I.C. Thru U” about not wanting to “sanctify Gay marriage” and it turns my stomach. You could transplant hateful people like that back to 1967 when interracial marriage was finally settled by the Supreme Court and their argument would fit like a glove. Think about that – 1967 – in my lifetime the SC overturned the “Racial Integrity Act”. that prevented interracial marriage and here we are again.

earth_not_flat…
There is not your god and my God.Its just one God and one kind of heaven.
If you dont know Jesus.Then you are lost.
Heaven is were I want to be and hell is not where I want to be.
We all choose.

morethanpolite – well, hang in there, the tide is turning, humans are still moving forward, and there is still buckets of hope and good in the world, despite what the media puts out there… and obviously after seeing the tantrum fromthe right of late, it’s obvious they know their gig is up with regards to homophobia being the norm

Christian Conservative says: “We all choose.”
EXACTLY MY POINT! That is why I am pro-choice, pro-equality for gays, and choose not to be a born again christian!

Christian Conservative – no one BELIEVES in abortion… stop putting words in peoples mouths and twisting logic on its head

earth_not_flat.
I can just tell you that my religion says that if you die today,you will be suffering in hell.
Thats all. cant say anymore.

pro-choice, pro-equality for gays?
That would be pro abortion and pretending to be normal.

dont forget the six pack joe

What McCain is saying about the Republican Party and ‘gay’ HOMOSEXUAL marriage just proves that his stands in the past have been purely political and not his true beliefs. No wonder he lost the presidential election to a socialist. He won’t win another national election either… No wonder he considered becoming a Democrat…he should! He fits in better there than as a stumbling block for the Republican Party…

If an election were held tomorrow and 99% of Americans voted to legitimize homosexual “marriage,” that still would not make it moral. Morality is defined by God and communicated through his Word. Men may scorn it and reject it, thinking themselves to be oh, so enlightened, but in the end all will be held to account on a day of judgment and none will escape. Scoff and mock if you will, but in the end God will have the last word.

McCain can suggest anything he wants the Republican
party to embrace. The Republican party & Democrat party have both moved too far away from the Constitution to ever warrant a vote from me again.
The party or person that is the closest to the Constitution will get my votes and support, and I’m pretty sure that a few others are inclined to think this way, since the truth is finally getting out to the multitudes. You can’t fool all the people all of the time.

Funny how Republicans CLAIM to be all about INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY and personal freedoms, yet their party is ALL ABOUT preventing OTHER individuals from living as they so desire.
The GOP is the party of nosey neighbors, meddling into the most personal aspects of everyone elses lives. If you ever watched Bewitched, Gladys Kravitz is a great metaphor for todays GOPer for sure!
The GOP is hell bent on BANNING OTHERS from doing ANYTHING they deem immoral!
How does telling OTHERS who to marry, telling OTHERS they can’t have a dr. assisted suicide, telling OTHERS they can’t consume marijuana etc. amount to being supportive of individual liberty and freedom?
The GOP claims to be the party that wants “government out of our lives”?
Hardly!
More like the party that wants government control, restrictions and oversight on even the most private, intimate and personal aspects of our lives!
It’s GOP religious nutters like Rick Santorum who have publicly argued that Americans have NO constitutional right to privacy and shouldn’t expect it!
When the GOP stops being the party of “BAN IT, BAN IT” on everything under the sun, from entertainment
to gay marriage, maybe THEN I’ll reconsider them as a viable alternative once again.
Until then, they are just the U.S. version of the TaliBAN, out to BAN OTHERS from doing ALL THINGS they deem offensive!
Here’s an idea. Stop worrying about how OTHERS are living THEIR lives, and focus on your own? Better yet, how’s about focusing on writing legislation which actually BENEFITS ALL PEOPLE in their day to day lives in areas such as health care and retirement.
GOP PARTY PLATFORM POSITIONS:
Gay Marriage-BAN IT
Stem Cell Research-BAN IT
Medical Marijuana-BAN IT
Buying RX’s From Other Countries-BAN IT
Dr. Assisted Suicide-BAN IT
Adult Content In Media-BAN IT
Abortion-BAN IT
That’s just off the top of my head. I’m sure I’ve forgotten a few things.
Does the GOP even try to come up with even a slightly intellectual position on anything anymore or does it just reactionarily default to “BAN IT” when presented with any new developments?
GOP = U.S. Tali”BAN IT”

Dear BBub,
Whether gays are 10, 5 or even 1% of the U.S. population does not matter.
Counting ALL JEWS, even secular Jews, Jews ammount to only 2% of the U.S. population. Mormons only make up 1.7% of the U.S. and Muslims only make up .5, yes that’s POINT 5 PERCENT of the U.S. population. Asians, EVEN IF you count all of them collectively, from every Asian country, still only make up 5% of the U.S..
So. Even by the LOWEST estimations, there are at least as many gays in America as there are Jews, and many more gays than Mormons or Muslims.
Would you suggest that Jews or Mormons or Muslims or Asians are not entitled to demand what they feel are THEIR rites in light of how few there are?
The Constitution protects ALL INDIVIDUALS, not just those who are part of a group that has reached some critical mass. Remember, even 2% of over 300 million people is A LOT of folks!
Also remember that a lot more people are willing to reveal their ethnic or religious affiliation than their sexual orientation, as most gays are still closeted. Just something to think about.

Gay marriage/Sodomism is just WRONG! And its sick! I’m a Rep. & I don’t support it cause its unnatural. Read your biology homework. “Survival of the Fitess” doesn’t include them. Using God as a reference not to support gay marriage is just a poor explanation. This is why I use facts from research so they can keep thier mouths shut!
All hope for humanity will be lost if Sodomism/GLBT culture is seen as normal. I especially fear (confused) straight women turning lesbians because of the lies the lesbians/sodomism they spread. And if they succeed, there will be no REAL men left in this world to give a woman what see wants. Trust me, anything a butch/dyke can do, a REAL man can do better! I’m all for reformation, but not for the gay culture cause its just sick!
Don’t support gay marriage & gay culture if you really care about humanity!