More Biden Fallout: Napolitano Explains, Harkin Scolds

If the swine flu affects Homeland Security, as evidenced by Napolitano being the spokesperson, why haven’t we closed the borders and limited travel?
Joe said what everyone is thinking. He, mostly humorously, doesn’t have a filter. I can’t believe I am defending Biden, who I think is a complete nutcase, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Someone ought to do a series called
“Oh that Joe!”
;-)

Would be nice if we could all backtrack and erase things we’ve said. Napolitano says they didn’t “mean” the vets-can-be-terrorists memo, they’re switching “passive surveillance” to something else. Now a pull back on Biden; “What he meant to say was…”
How many chances are these people going to get before someone asks a real question?

Biden is right on this one. If there is a flu or bug going around that is airborne the LAST place you want to be is on a plane. I’ll admit this was a gaffe if we accept the definition of a gaffe as being when a politician accidentally tells the truth.

We have flu episodes every year and people die from it every year. Get a grip.

Concerned:”even a stopped clock is right twice a day.”
On that note, I think it should be pointed out both Dr. Ron Paul and the Obama Administration agree on the current cautious-but-not-panicked response (although I’m sure they’re at loggerheads over the ‘just in case’ $1.5 billion request).

I think he was expressing common sense actions..just like the ‘wash your hands often’ that we are hearing 50 times a day in the news! And..he WAS speaking about his own family. Boy, some folks (Harkin)will spout off about anything to get themselves in the limelight!

Just think. This MORON is in charge of implementing the $800 Billion stimulus which will save our economy!
Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that he would not recommend taking any commercial flight or riding in a subway car “at this point” because swine flu virus can spread “in confined places.” A little more than one hour later, BIDEN RUSHED OUT A STATEMENT BACKING OFF.
“I would tell members of my family — and I have — I wouldn’t go anywhere in confined places now,” Biden said on NBC’s “Today” show. “It’s not that it’s going to Mexico. It’s [that] you’re in a confined aircraft. When one person sneezes, it goes all the way through the aircraft. That’s me.

Biden should offer the same advice as Gibbs–go ask the White House.
These guys are entertaining.

Mad,
He is the VP of the US. What if, God forbid, something happened to the President? I’m just glad we dodged that bullet out of Alaska. Whew! Confidence in his backup gives us all tingly feelings down our legs.

The International Monetary Fund looks at Mr. Obama’s program, and reports:
“On April 21, the IMF issued an updated World Economic Outlook which predicted negative growth for the world in 2009 and a modest recovery beginning in 2010.
“But their forecast for the United States was not so positive. They predicted that the United States economy will have zero growth in 2010, despite President Obama’s stimulus package. In fact, they predicted that U.S. unemployment will climb, that year, to 10.1%.
“The IMF also estimated that American foreign debt is now in the process of doubling from 4.5% of world GDP in 2007 to 9% of world GDP in 2009, and they saw a pretty good chance that the continuing U.S. trade deficits would cause a dollar collapse.”

Fascist Hyena:”The International Monetary Fund looks at Mr. Obama’s program, and reports:”
This is not really news. Most of the hardcore analytical economists (the sort who make up the IMF to a great extent) were quite strongly of the opinion that the stimulus package was too small to do the job needed, particularly have so much of it was forced into poor-return tax cuts by the Republicans.

THat IMF don’t know how ‘bama and usa rolls. bama knows money.hes got the conomy going good. he be fixin george bushs messes. he going make us rich wait and see.we all going to be getting paid now. joe he going to help too when he all better from the pig flu.

Quick, somebody check to see if Joe Biden has “Foot-in-Mouth” disease……again.

Oh, yes, lets pretend that we’re all safe and that Joe Biden was speaking irresponsibly. Lets just stay in denial while the entire world becomes infected with H1N1 virus with incredibly rapid speed… because the ECONOMIC and FINANCIAL INTERESTS of BUSINESS guides our policy, not science or intelligence. Biden was telling the truth. Wake up! Stockpile food and hole up. Get ready. This could be the worst pandemic since 1918 when up to 100 million people died worldwide. Or, pretend your safe and keep your kids in school. Good Luck.

Scare Force One:”$23.8 billion in corporate tax breaks were included in the $825 billion economic recovery package.
That’s less than 3% of the Pork-a-Palooza. Tiny! “So much of it”??? What are you talking about?”
I see you’re another zealot arguing confidently from a position of ignorance. The stimulus included $237 billion in tax cuts. The second largest chunk of that – the AMT tax cut – is a perennial Republican priority and accounts for almost 10% of the total bill cost and ONLY goes to middle class or higher earners.
I have a hard problem taking your rants seriously when you have such a proud ignorance of reality.

mike:” his record? You mean when he voted against the first gulf war but voted for the invasion of Iraq in 2003 WOW you are sooo right. ”
I see the error of my ways! Every multi-decade Senate career should be judged by a single vote! What a GREAT idea – it’s so simple! All that confusing law making is too hard to follow! Why didn’t I see the light earlier!

====Anyone familiar with Biden’s long and concrete record isn’t concerned. We’ve survived Presidents who were inept in public before, from “Bring it on!” to literally throwing up in the lap of visiting heads of state. ======
I am familiar with his long and concrete record and I am concerned. Don’t paint too broad a brush. And you want to equate throwing up (something you can’t control) to opening your mouth and saying something stupid? I guarantee you Obama is pissed at him. If he can be pissed, I can be amused. And make fun of him.

All passengers from mexico should be screened by a doctor.
Napalitano is only allowing passive screening without checks from a doctor. It is basically nothing border agents are letting people through by asking how are you at select airports.
You could stop all flights from mexico giving u.s citizens a week to return by plane. You could stop tourists from mexico flying here.
The middle approach would be to at least screen all passengers with doctors when they land in the u.s. It would stop all the sick people from then spreading but it is better than what we are doing now.
As for biden he has dementia.
Last year Biden called Palin the lt governor. I am no fan of Palin but I thought Biden sounded out of it when he called her the lt governor.
Biden also last year said FDR was giving updates on television.
Obama got no flack from picking Biden even though Biden would be a disaster as president.
Biden as president would be a disaster because the lights would be on him and he would be a gaffe a minute constantly.
Biden is in no position to be president.

Joe plugs who famously berated a reporpter saying he had a hire IQ than him.
Biden said he talked to millions of people in a speech when he first ran for the senate.
Biden said he was the only one in his class to get a full scholorship to syracuse that was a lie.
Biden said he graduated in the top of his class which was a lie he graduated in the bottom half.
But america loves this ego maniac gaffe machine joe plugs biden.
Joe Biden the average joe whose son is involved in a ponzi scheme.
Joe Biden the average joe whose son Hunter is a millionaire lobbyist thanks to connections with dad.
Joe Biden the average Joe who got his mansion in deleware for half the price. Instead of paying 4 million Biden only had to pay 2 million because the owner worked at the firm where his son is a lobbyist and the owner was part of MBNA credit card industry.
Biden helped pass the bankruptcy bill to help MBNA that is our average joe.
Biden talks about his middle class roots from scranton when is family was actually well off.
Average Joe is a joke.

Obama during the campaign last year said ICE agents who arrested illegals in raids were terrorizing illegals.
America wanted change and you got change all right.
Obama’s homeland security pick Napalitano won’t allow national guard at the border even though border governors from arizona and texas have asked for them.
Napalitan cancelled an ICE raid against the border.
But policies don’t count in this country.
All that counts is that Americans like Obama even though his policies suck.
And all this liking Obama. Remember when Obama wouldn’t even sign an autograph for that guy who was begging him for one and he got so arrogant about it. This is a guy who never served his country in uniform and walks around like a king.
Obama and Clinton want in state tuition for illegals.
Obama and Clinton want affirmative action for illegals over caucasian american citizens.

He was specifically asked “what would you tell members of your own family?” and he was honest – this is just what they were wanting – another gaffe from Joe. That was the one thing that was picked up out of the entire interview.

Every time Joe opens his mouth…..it is Damage Control Time!!
Ya’ll ought to leave him in his oxygen tent and tell everyone he has a DNR signed by his doctor.
He is GAWD AWFUL!!

I think if people want to get on planes, fly to Mexico, and expose themselves to some virus, they should be allowed to do so. In fact, I would encourage large numbers to book a flight right now. Pandemics are VERY bad for business, aren’t they?

Don’t be too harsh on Obama’s first choice for vice president, after all it is a bit challenging for Joe when he is asked a question and left to his own devices because there is no one to
plagerize.

Scare Force One:”The AMT fix is just that–A FIX, which should have been done long ago. It has nothing to do with the stimulus.”
Then WHY are you calling the full $70 billion cost of this “fix which should have been done” part of the “of the Pork-a-Palooza” that you snidely insisted had only $23.8 million in tax breaks? You weren’t ‘wrong’ were you – you were deliberately lying. Typical.
Anyone who cares, feel free to read the posts below. I don’t really have anything more to say about this guys credibility.

Perhaps it just depends on one’s level of cautiousness. The question for the airlines to answer is what happens when a person with this flu virus sneezes in the enclosed space of the airplane.

leftyintexas..Please tell me again WHY Dan Quayle’s statements were “perfectly understandable and not a big deal.” One word from second in command could potentially shut down a good portion of our transportation system as in no ticket revenue; as well as, as work stoppage that would surely follow…Yes, that is a big deal as well as showing VERY POOR JUDGMENT.

“We all need to lay off our vice president at a time of global crisis.”
Posted by: matt
Oh boy. Finding a difference between the Bush and Obama administrations is growing ever more difficult.
People should lay off of Biden anyhow. God invented limousines and private jets for occasions just like this.

The Obama administration has been very effective at unnecessarily frightening people this week.

A heartbeat away…
And people were worried about Palin?

This could boil down to survival of the fittest. Could be time to “thin the herd”

Let’s find out what Cheney and Palin have to say.. they are the V.P.’s that everyone talks about..

Janet N. needs to drag out the color coded alarm levels…

They told me that if I voted for McCain we’d have a Vice President who was a moron….and whaddayuh know, they were right!

What is it they are not telling us if “Stand up Chuck!” Biden is telling his family not to use public transportation. Now we know who was on the 747 that buzzed NYC. Joe freaked out and was trying to bail in AF2 and BO had to send 2 F16′s to bring him back.

They tell us not to go to Mexico but at the same time, they have no problem at all if Mexico comes to us! Insane.

In fact, the current outbreak of the H1N1 virus, which emerged in San Diego and southern Mexico late last month, may not even do as much damage as the run-of-the-mill flu outbreaks that occur each winter without much fanfare.
“Let’s not lose track of the fact that the normal seasonal influenza is a huge public health problem that kills tens of thousands of people in the U.S. alone and hundreds of thousands around the world,” said Dr. Christopher Olsen, a molecular virologist who studies swine flu at the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine in Madison.

change we can believe in….nothing changed ,,,,we are still being governed by absolute morons….janet nap..whatever her name is…biden, timmy g, harry reid…on and on …thats the best we can do?

The trouble with VP Biden is that he makes good sense. Plus, he is no one’s talking doll. Big business, over-blown media, and politically correct governmental types have a hard time with somebody who is authentic and unscripted. Bravo, Joe! Keep telling the truth!

We’re just over 100 days in and there’s trouble in paradise already. How funny!!!

I am so tired of being told that what I saw with my own eyes didnt happen (that bowing thing), and now apparently what I hear with my own ears cant be trusted either.
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It didnt take 2 hours before the various talking heads started telling us what Joe really said, as opposed to the words that left his mouth.
Sad thing is, he spoke like a true father and family man….when did we outlaw that.

Spreading fear never helped anyone. Biden is a complete idiot.

Um why is he being flammed for this comment. I think what he says makes sense! Isn’t that why they are closing all the schools? close quarters large groups of people.. just saying everyone got all mad at him but I think he makes a good point. Heck before he even said this I was doing the same thing.. stayign awat from large groups of people in close quarters.

Joe ! Aren’t you supposed to be watching the TARP funds ? There disapearing.

Jake Tapper, you are by far the most respectable, investigative political journalist ABC has. The rest seem to have resigned to covering the First Dog, and the enchanting moments of Obams first 100 days .
Having said that, Why do we not see stories on the sealing of Obamas Birth Certificate, college admissions records, campaign donor list, selective service information, etc? How about confronting Obama on his broken pledges of transparency, earmarks, and lobbyists? Why not more scrutiny over the boneheaded Air Force One flyover in Manhattan? Why is the transformational, candidate who pledged transparency to the people for their votes, not being held to the lofty standard he set for himself?

You are probably surprised at all of the support VP Biden has received for being an honest man who gave a loving response to a question about his family. He’s smart and talks the truth…big oddity in politics, I don’t care what party you’re with. Many of us would listen to Biden before most anyone else; do you know why? He doesn’t gaffe, that’s merely a media term; he say things with integrity and because he has true affection for others. Frankly, I don’t care anymore if that fact is disputed, we love Joe and would go to the mat for him because we know he would go to the mat for us. How many people could you say that about? BTW, Biden was purely and simply correct. He spoke with calm, and left it up to viewer to use their own judgment and intellect with travel and work choices. Good for him. The only reasons this became anything more than a really nice interview was because the White House jumped in suddenly to tell the rest of us what Biden really meant (sheesh) then MSM, (who can’t seem to leave the word gaffe alone, right?) jumped on the correction. WH and Harken were only protecting big business rather than Americans. Sad really. Love ya Joe Biden…keep on being real; it’s refreshing.

BOY! Talk about much ado about nothing! Jake Tapper, I understand you’re trying to build a career via blogging, and I wish you luck, and I understand that the talking heads need to justify the expense of 24 hour news… but GEEZ! This man is no George Bush… and remember how HE couldn’t open his mouth without sticking at least one of his feet in? So WHAT if Biden advised against going into crowds if you could avoid it – I SAY THE SAME THING! I think all this is a tempest in a teapot. Get real, his common sense comment is national news? Slow news day? And to the fool who said it was maybe time to ‘thin the herd’ – I think you should get in line for the ‘thinning’…

Biden is a buffoon who talks before he thinks, this isn’t the first time his made such a mis-statement. Experts at the CDC have stated he is wrong, ABC’s own Dr. Tim Johnson says he’s wrong. But all the Biden apologists are out trying to protect his looney-tunes statement. Besides, swine-flu seems to be much ado about nothing. Regular flu kills 36K per year in the US, nobody runs around crying “the sky is falling though,” do they?

This is all Mexico’s fault. It’s time they face the facts and stop riding on the coat tails of the world!
The majority of Mexico’s wealth has come from American soil (that’s USA soil) and yet they act as if though they are the entitled to all that is good and have no obligation to their people (just look how they treat their people) and even less to the rest of the world. We wouldn’t even be having this discussion today if the Mexican Government had grew some ##### for once and faced their own problem (this outbreak) in a timely manner. Mexico should have closed their borders and requested that we do the same immediately after this began. Not only that they haven’t interviewed a single family member of a victim…therefore they have no idea of any leads as to where this started….
Just yesterday they said it was the World Health Organizations fault…I guess their next excuse was they didn’t speak English…idiots