Of Taxes and Tea

Grassroots? More like astroturf… Right wing organizations have been spending millions to form this “grassroots” event.. it even has a corporate sponsor… Fox News! A corporate media sponsor! That’s a first! A “Grassroots” event with a corporate sponsor… you people are getting so played! That’s OK, Paris Hilton appreciates you fighting fro her…

These “tea parties” are less a wave of populist anger at Obama than they are a bizarre and potentially dangerous push for conservative insurrection by none other than Fox News.
Didn’t they call Bush bashing “treason” only a few months ago? What about this incendiary political stunt?

The conservatives sure do gather quickly when the big tax spending switches from paying for an unecessary war and lining the pockets of the fat cats to actually helping the people of this country. After all it will be on the backs of the middle class to pay most of the national debt.
What ever happened to the balanced budget and surplus left from the Clinton years? Who was protesting then?

We’ve got some revisionist history here. Bush bashing called treason?—you better go back and clear that with your Moveon.org/Daily Kos/MSNBC handlers.
This is NOT an incendiary stunt. It’s people saying get control of the spending. You can’t succeed by throwing dollars at every single problem. That’s the lazy way to fix problems. 1-1 1/2 years of pain versus 10-15 years of pain with runaway inflation.
The major political movement is the Gimmee/Gimmee party and today’s polititions will do anything to get their vote.
Finally, Mike, all grassroots movements have leaders. So, please don’t just quote your extreme left leadership, have an original thought.

I’m neither a conservative nor a liberal, just to clear the air before I’m dismissed as right wing or left wing or whatever people would label someone who they don’t like.
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Funny – the article states that we’ve had the lowest taxes in the last decade … who was president for the last 8 years again? Oh yeah … Bush, an evil conservative fatcat. While yeah – the war wasn’t the wisest of choices. Get rid of Saddam, yeah I can agree. Jump on any reason? Probably not a good thing to do.
And who was president ten years ago? Oh yeah .. Clinton, you’re beloved and honest Democrat/Robin Hood .. and his harem. Enough said on him.
Let’s get real people. Do I think the teaparty is anything more than a big media hype? Nope. Will it do anything? Nope. Do I think they SHOULDN’T do it? Nope – heck, liberals do crazy stunts left and right for media attention and protesting things … why shouldn’t conservatives? Oh yeah .. because you disagree disagree with them.
But really ..
Do I think our country will fair better under the O-train? Doubt it. Do I blame Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan or Carter or or or for the bad economy and all our troubles? Nope. I blame lazy people and those who enable their laziness by handing them whatever benefits they want.
Make jobs. Not more government programs.
Taxes? Least of our worries. If someone doesn’t keep all those evil corporations from moving to Mexico there won’t be any money in America’s pocket to pay taxes.

I don’t think the American people are ready yet for the Tea Parties. We just have not felt the effects of the Stimulus and bail-out monies. Until probably next year. Will we then be up in arms? Right now most Americans want us to get fixed with this Economy, we are looking for jobs, better health care, fixing the Social Security system, then we will go hay wire on taxes.
I agree with the Tea Parties and what they strive to do. But most Americans are not yet concerned enough now. We just have so much that happens day to day with this Economy and we are struggle to get though the day to day.

Any American who is not concerned with the massive amount of spending that is about to take place has their head up their TV. An annoying fact of life: SOMEBODY HAS TO PAY THE TRILLIONS BACK!!!! The getting something for nothing attitude and the buying things we don’t need with money we don’t have is what got us into this mess. This is insanity and if you want to hide it behind some kind of stupid political blame game go right ahead. Some of us are going to call the jerks we have in Washington out today. You can just sit there with dumb smug looks on your well-fed face and make excuses for the idiots as they pass out OUR MONEY like it was candy to their friends. This movement will grow.

The GOP wants to be the only party in America. They have tried with all their heart and souls to get it done. They have been very upset by the last few months and are trying again to become the only political party that wins. They can not stand that 50% of America and more on any given day think they are wrong. This tea party stuff is all smoke and mirrors. What they are really doing is seeing how many of the right they can muster today and if it going to pay to keep this up until they can wrench power from us dummies on the left.Well we’ll see. I happen to think a two party system keeps everyone honest and I would hate to think we could loose it so easily.This is way to early to tell how the money we have spent on the turn around is doing. I think Citibank is a good example of how things may turn out OK. Time will tell.

Hey Karen…you talk about “astro-turf.” you mean kinda like those union plants that were outside AIG offices “protesting” the bonuses that Geithner and Obama both knew about several weeks prior? Or maybe like the Democrats in control of Congress who requested that language that would have stopped those bonuses, be taken out of the stimulus bill. CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC, have absolutely no credibility. They are in bed with Obama. They do and say nothing without having already run it by the White House to get approval. Please! I am tired of extremists on both sides. I am sick and tired of Obama’s plans to spend us into oblivion.

How can people be so dismissive a o large portion of the population. GMA consistnetly mocks any idea the is to the right of their liberal views. I don’t see them ever presenting both views of an issue. If I weren’t sick I would be at the Denver Tea Party and resent the idea that expressing my views is “fake”. I am tired of the “fake” promises of Obama.

I think some of you people need to do your homework! Maybe before you open your mouth! I was a democrat, I say I was ! Not now, for sure.

Where were these nuts when the Bush administration was shovelling money to the banks (and, earlier, just to the rich) with absolutely no accounting?
The problem with the neolithic conservatives is that they are ignorant of history (and logic, and economics, and compassion, etc.).

So just how many of these fools going out in support of these Tea Parties are actually seeing their taxes go up???? None of those participating in my town. We have seen a tax break at the company where I work on the last 2 paychecks. Thank you PResident Obama. Why would these people protest a tax hike on those making all the money. They certainly do NOT make 250,000.00 a year, not one of them, yet they protest. Idiots!!! FOOLS!!!

This is not really a grassroots Internet protest. It was thought up by a conservative group led by Newt Gingrich and publicized by Fox News, the so-called “fair and balanced” network. Did they ever, every support any Democratic issues?
The shrieks of “tax and spend liberals” worked for hard-core conservatives since the Republicans took over Congress in 1994. They were in shock when the Dems took back control of Congress in 2006 and are besides themselves with the popularity of President Obama.
So they go back to their tried and true tirade of tax and spend. They’ve got nothing else.

Question: Isn’t it interesting that the President and his MSM are on the road again attempting to fix what he and his ACORN thugs contributed to, a “mortgage meltdown”, through their disgraceful Alinsky’s Rules tactics?
This administration and the Main Stream Media go out of their way to have us believe that it was the Bush Administration that created our financial economic crisis, but was it or was it “banking terrorist” tactics used by community organizers from the tools provided them under the federal Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), which were carried out by ACORN’s members, who were trained by the President to use Alinky’s Rules to bully banks into making bad loans, that likely contributed to the “mortgage meltdown” and triggered the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression?
“God Bless Our USA”
Semper Fi!

Since today is April 15 our family just came head on with the reality of how much we are going to pay in taxes this year – well over $50,000.00 Are we happy with this? Of course not. Especially when you consider the fact that my dad is a hard working, self employed 50+ year old who is trying to save money for retirement to say nothing of trying to save a little extra for a house down-payment.
My issue is the fact that so many far wealthier people are getting away with paying almost nothing in taxes – and a few of them even get appointed to the President’s cabinet! Come on stop the hypocrisy! Enforce taxes on EVERYONE instead of increasing taxes on those who are honest.
Probably the reason so many people are OK with taxes in your poll is because they are on welfare and don’t pay anything anyway. Try doing some unbiased polling – you’ll get a picture far closer to reality than your fantasy world.

Of course 61 percent say the amount they pay in taxes is fair. 40% don’t pay Federal income tax. The Burden has been shifted to the rich.

The demonstration is – in my humble opinion – about out of control spending. Too many lawmakers are focused on getting re-elected term after term after term after term after term (Uncle Teddy Kennedy) versus taking care of business to keep this country a superpower.
Here are a few suggestions to reduce the debt:
1. Suspend the income tax for a year
2. Cut in half our foreign support to countries
3. Dissolve our relationship with the UN and stop payments to an organization that has never demonstrated that it can solve any crisis.
5. Stop programs that do not require accountability for recipients of funds
These steps alone will re-invingorate the economy and reduce the debt. With an additional $40,000.00 in my pocket, I will hire contractors to do work versus doing it myself over a longer period of time. Think of the number of people that would have a job for a few weeks or months that now don’t becuase I don’t have this additional money for discretionary spending.

The Tax Day Tea Parties are in NO WAY funded or affiliated with Fox News. They are merely providing coverage with on-site correspondents. Fox News did not provide any donations or fund these events in any way. All monies were either donated by private individuals.
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!
These events are merely a representation of a rising concern for the copious amounts of government spending.
This is not isolated to the Obama administration. Spending has be out of control since 1999.
The timing of these events were simply motivated by the stimulus/bailout packages issued since November 2008.
This is not a protest of Obama or liberals. It is a protest of government spending and excessive taxes resulting from said spending.

Do I think our country will fair better under the O-train? Doubt it. Do I blame Obama or Bush or Clinton or Bush or Reagan or Carter or or or for the bad economy and all our troubles? Nope. I blame lazy people and those who enable their laziness by handing them whatever benefits they want.
Make jobs. Not more government programs.
Taxes? Least of our worries. If someone doesn’t keep all those evil corporations from moving to Mexico there won’t be any money in America’s pocket to pay taxes.
Well said Tadd, it is not about right or left, is about being an american to speak out. What i see with this administration is…we cannot questioned anything the President says does..this is scary, everyone treats him with kid gloves, he could do no wrong, and when he does it’s justifiable.

To all of you who haven’t had an impact on your taxes you must not have had enough success for your taxes to go up. So shut up. Peoples like us who carry this country with hard work do have the say so in something and if you are just average, why do you think you can criticize the successful? We have a say in where our taxes should go and it doesn’t have to go in supporting those of you that can’t support yourselves. We give to charities or our choice every year, and it’s not to you who just sit around whining, it goes to the really unfortunate people. Get a grip.

The tea parties were started from real citizens not activist like ACORN who along with DEM congress ie Chris Dodd,Barney Frank & others who said Fannie Mae & Freddie Mack were fine then collapsed. They bundled the bad loans & sold them. The government cannot spend it’s way out of this recession no more than a drunk can drink his way out of being drunk.

The TEA Parties are against the big government that we have now because of politicians not Democrats or Republicans but BOTH of them. People need start looking both parties for what they are. They are both the same and stand for nothing but reelection and greed.

The TEA parties are great as it seems the only way to get government officials attention. I am tired of every thing being blamed on Bush . True we had a large debt but we also had 911 and other thing that contributed to the spending. Obama stated he is giving use a lot but no one has seen anything being given to the little people only additional taxation which is what this Tea party is about. God bless America and lets not go with socialism.

Is there no commen sense left in government anymore? Every household knows that you spend what you make and no more. You don’t get out of debt by increasing that debt.

I’m sick and tired of all the irrational name calling from all sides of the issue. Fact: spending is out of control and has been for decades. Fact: our constitution is under attack and has been for about as many decades. Fact: someone (the American people) is going to have to pay back all of that money. I’m not a democrate, a repubiblican, a leftist, a rightest, a liberal or a conservitive. I am a American. An American that is a firm believer in our Constitution and the Bill of Rights as put forth by our Founding Fathers for good or for bad. When one group tries to force their beliefs on another we all lose and our founding fathers new that. To bad we as a people have lost sight of that.

The TEA party’s were not just about taxes, they are about an out of control government. Our congress has been totaly out of control. We need term limits on all government employees and not just the president. Make them all pay into the social security system. How do these people think they are qualified to run a company like General Motors when they can’t even balance their own budget. It is a farce.

What is all the fuss about? As a tax preparer for 28 years, I don’t see any of my clients paying more than they did a year ago. Of course, they’re just regular people – no CEO’s or Corporations. And some are paying less, as they lost money and jobs, thanks to Bush’s Boys. Is this “Tea Party” thing a smoke and mirrors act to defame the new President, put on by Fox News and super-right-wingers? Get over it – we all pay taxes, and it’s about time the fat-cats paid their share. I would be delighted to be put out of business by the passage of the “Fair Tax Act” – no more returns, no more IRS, please check this out.

Americans are being hearded to the financial slaughter by the media and our elected officials. The argument put forth by ABC and the administration is intentionally misleading. The continued willingness of ABC to ignore the fact that all americans are paying more taxes due to the overspending of our elected officials. The math does not work and will not ever work. Taxes necessarily will go up for all americans. The argument made by ABC and the administration is limited solely to income taxes. This diversionary tactic is insulting and meaningless. When taxes go up for corporations do you really think they will not be passed to the consumer. When they raise them on gas, cigs, alcohol, utilities the consumer pays those as well. When property taxes go up they are paid by homeowners and passed to those that rent through rent increases. Federal, State and local governments are going to tax the distracted masses by nickel and diming americans. It is all just a political shell game that has gone unchecked due to the liberals desire to advance a political agenda. The only reason liberals wish to have universal healthcare is to save the union workers and government workers from loosing benefits their union leaders extorted from corporations and governmental entities. The rest of us are just the saps that write the checks. Bad contracts by corporations and governmental entities with the union will be borne now by those of us who have paid and saved for our own health insurance and retirement.

ABC gets it wrong ..again..
if these were libs marching, the msm would have been all over this.
We The People have finally have woken up.

When will people get it through their heads that the ‘tea parties’ wasn’t about taxes, but how the government is spending money. They’ve been wasteful for decades and the mainstream media only picks up that it’s about taxes. Shows how much the media wants change. I want my children to grow up in a great country, not a broke one that cannot afford anything.

Leave it to the Leftist Loons who believe their own polls to think the Tea Party’s were all about taxes. They were NOT. They ARE not! They are about this administrations out-of-control spending, the pork-infested bills the idiots in Congress pass without even READING them. The WASTE of our taxpayer dollars to fraud thugs like ACORN is going to stop!! This grass roots movement, which I have been involved in from the start, has nothing to do with Fox News other than the fact that they supplied news coverage when no other network could be bothered. The Fascist MSM have been covering Obama’s rear end from day one so why would we think they would act like real “journalists” and supply unbiased coverage? The loony nitwit, Nancy Pelosi LIED when she said there were LOBBYISTS involved from the beginning. Anyone who tries to minimize this nationwide peaceful revolution does so at his or her own risk. We plan to vote ALL the morons out of Congress, from BOTH sides of the aisle and start fresh. We will impose TERM LIMITS with our votes! We will march again, in even greater numbers, on July 4th!
And, by the way, you need to check out a LEGITIMATE poll like Rasmussen or Zogby to find out how far your Marxist Messiah has dropped during his couple of months in office. Have a nice day.

Well, now, yet another shot across Obama’s bow. I have several questions for the conservative right. Who put us in the shape we‘re in? When Clinton left office in 2000, there was a 500 billion surplus, When Dubya left office in 2008 there was a 1.7 TRILLION dollar deficit. We’re spending 2.5 billion a week on the two wars. All of it financed thru loans from China. You folks who supported the tea parties would do well to reread your history. The tea party in 1773 has nothing to do with the tea party in 2009.
Oh, did I mention that 95% of taxpayers received a tax cut? I assume all of you protesters will be returning the extra money to Washington, right? I wonder if all other things being equal, you would be protesting if there was yet another WASP in the White House instead of an African-American.
The bottom line is this, Bush put us in the position this country is in today. But, you folks don’t have the integrity to admit it.
By all means, keep protesting and complaining. First of all it is your right Second, it’s quite entertaining. Hollywood couldn’t have written a better story.
By the way, I am one of those WASPs. But I judge a person by their deeds not the color of their skin.

I am heartened by the actions of President Obama so far and glad I voted for him. What I truly hope for is that not one more penny be spent on foreign aid, and I do not care if it is only 1% of the budget, as Senator Cornyn has informed me. That 1% would be better spent here to assist low-income Americans. That 1% could assist my neighbor, who is an amputee and is being told by the Social Security Administration that his benefits will be cut. I am sure that he could use some of the ten billion that Bush gave to Pakistan. Or the million that Hillary Clinton wants to donate. Let her give her own money, not America’s.

It is surprising that the tea parties had such a high turnout even though they weren’t well organized. But you wouldn’t know that watching ABC, would you? Seems there’s a lot of stuff that doesn’t get widely reported. For instance did you know that the Department of Homeland Security issued a report calling the attendies “right wing extremists”?! Oh, you didn’t know that either? Seems there’s a lot that news that doesn’t support the agenda I guess. We need to wake up. Since do conservatives strongly rally? It’s unheard of but this time they did. They are called the “silent majority” for a reason. You also need to consider that for every 1 that attended the Tea Parties, there was likely 500 that strongly felt the same way as the ones who attended.