Post-Condemnation, North Korea Threatens to Boycott Six-Party Talks

Taking a clue from his Iranian adventures, Barack Obama has dropped his demands that NoKo not launch a missile into the US in return for renewing talks.

I think it time for the world community to say enough is enough and cut the country off from all aid – no food, no monetary aid, etc. The North Korean leadership has shown that it does not care about its people – so why should we kow-tow to their whims under such conditions.
I laughed as I heard our UN Ambassodor speak of the Security COuncil resolution yesterday adn the message it sends. Get a clue – North Korean does not care. Let China take care of them and the US should back off and just watch.
My Option on the nuclear weapon situation is to say to both North Korea and Iran: When one develops a Nuclear Capability, much responsibility comes with it. I would tell them that if a nuclear device, even a dirty bomb, goes off somewhere, you two are toast.
BO’s plan to “talk withou tpre-conditions” is not going to get us anywhere.

HobokenJohn:”we have the tearing up of the agreements made during the Bush presidency ”
What were those agreements precisely? They seem to have been about as successful as the agreement Clinton made that North Korea tore up in a fit of pique under Bush.

“What were those agreements precisely? They seem to have been about as successful as the agreement Clinton made that North Korea tore up in a fit of pique under Bush.”
North Korea will walk away from six years of slow, fitful but sometimes productive negotiations that have led to substantial disablement of the North’s main nuclear reactor and partial disclosure of the scale of its weapons program.

The Bush administration tore up the (1994) Agreed Framework because, it claimed, the DPRK had a secret programme to enrich uranium as a ‘second path’ to nuclear weapons.
It did not produce any evidence to back up its allegations, the Joint Statement of 19 September 2005 at the Six Party Talks made no mention of uranium.
Clinton dragged his feet on implementing the agreement, especially as concerned the DPRK’s main goal – normalizing relations. Bush then tore up the agreement, and called North Korea ‘evil’.
If you don’t get the significance of that statement, think on it. There is no negotiating with ‘evil’ – Bush was saying that the official US position is that the US is not compelled to abide by any treaty it signs with them.
Bush wasted five years, and eventually came back to the same position Clinton ended with.
Both Clinton and Bush were probably betting that the regime would fall on its own. They both screwed up.

“Obama shouldn’t waste his time. He should tell China that if they don’t deal with their rabid side kick, we’ll encourage Japan to rearm and let them take care of the neighborhood. That will get some focus, quick.”
Sounds great but Obama isn’t going to do any of that. His European trip tells you how he is going to act. It will be 4 years of nothing with him. If Clinton and Bush were ineffective, then this guys is going to be worse
“North Korea isn’t our problem. Let the locals deal with it. ”
Keep saying that when a nuke strike hits Hawaii of god forbid the west coast or when these clowns sell the technology to the wrong hands.

He inherited the problem, therefore he gets a pass.
And since Obama is not pressing Iran anymore, why should N. Korea worry about Obama talk? If they are lucky Obama will soon be giving N. Korea a trillion $$$ bailout and give them the nukes and missiles.

“When the next missile falls 5 miles off the coast of California I can’t wait to hear what you’ll say next.”
drjohn relays this message from deep inside his fear bunker.
“North Korea will walk away from six years of slow, fitful but sometimes productive negotiations that have led to substantial disablement of the North’s main nuclear reactor and partial disclosure of the scale of its weapons program. ”
Interesting since right wingers were screaming for a military response.
I wonder what that would have done to the talks.

Need more proof that our wonderful president is a just a celebrity waiting for his next photo-op.
That surprise visit to the troops in Iraq was known a day in advance and the soldiers were pre-screened.
As usual Obama sets up the illiusion that he’s Mr Popular–but he’s just posing with his supporters.
I would bet the chilly reception he got at Camp Lejeune is more truthful.
What a fraud.

“That surprise visit to the troops in Iraq was known a day in advance and the soldiers were pre-screened.”
ROFLMAO!
The desperation of the right wing to prove that Obama is just like Bush.
Still mad about this, I see:
Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged
It dominated the headlines and the television news-analysis for days, and the fabricated scandal was utterly dishonest. The so-called “staging” involved no manipulation whatsoever. A group of soldiers who were scheduled for a televised chat with President Bush were “caught on tape” discussing ahead of time who would answer questions on what subjects. There was NO discussion of WHAT should be said.
“I would bet the chilly reception he got at Camp Lejeune is more truthful.”
He didn’t get a chilly reception at Camp Lejeune.
Is the dishonesty on the right wing pathological?

I am including some segments of this assault on american citizens report from Obama and homeland security. I will note the parts where they could not help but call us racists and anti-semites.
This is an outrage, but read these excerpts for yourself. Please note, they openly admit in the report that they have no proof for any of this. That is propaganda at it’s finest.
(U//FOUO) This product is one of a series of intelligence assessments published by the
Extremism and Radicalization Branch to facilitate a greater understanding of the
phenomenon of violent radicalization in the United
(U) Illegal Immigration
(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremists were concerned during the 1990s with the perception
that illegal immigrants were taking away American jobs through their willingness to
work at significantly lower wages. They also opposed free trade agreements, arguing that
these arrangements resulted in Americans losing jobs to countries such as Mexico.
U) Legislative and Judicial Drivers
(U//FOUO) Many rightwing extremist groups perceive recent gun control legislation as a
threat to their right to bear arms and in response have increased weapons and ammunition
stockpiling, as well as renewed participation in paramilitary training exercises. Such
activity, combined with a heightened level of extremist paranoia, has the potential to
facilitate criminal activity and violence.
(U//FOUO) Rightwing extremist views bemoan the decline of U.S. stature and
have recently focused on themes such as the loss of U.S. manufacturing capability
to China and India, Russia’s control of energy resources and use of these to
pressure other countries, and China’s investment in U.S. real estate and
corporations as a part of subversion strategy.
(of course they play the old racist canard, while openly admitting they have no proof for anything in the report,,,, that is called PROPAGANDA)
THIS IS INSANE. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ARE FRONTING ANTI-CONSERVATIVE, ANTI-REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA FOR WHICH THEY ADMIT THEY HAVE NO PROOF.

What do conservatives and Republicans have to do with right wing extremists?
Are you saying the stormfront crowd and the militia nutjobs are part of the Republican base?
Posted by: Ryan C | Apr 14, 2009 1:15:32 PM
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You know I am not. If you can read, you can see that he is lumping usual routine political disagreement between dems and repubs, on things like the economy and 2nd amendment as radical extremist positons. If you are not following his party line you are a threat and an extremist. He also provides no proof that militias are increasing, he just supposes that this is what republicans will turn into.
The homeland security department has lumped all conservative or republican political positions into the same pot as militias, while openly admitting in the report they have no proof of such.
It is an assault on american citizens. It is fear-mongering propaganda, clearly intended to promote hatred and divisiveness between citizens.
Read the examples from the report that I posted. Obama, and Janet Napolitano, are politicizing the government in a manner never before imagined.

“Don’t forget that militia nutjobs prevailed, in the American Revolution, against the most powerful and bureaucratic empire then on earth.”
Today those would be “militia nutjobs.” Here we have a President looking to turn the country into a Marxian utopia and some wonder why those of us who do all the work are concerned.

“The homeland security department has lumped all conservative or republican political positions into the same pot as militias, while openly admitting in the report they have no proof of such.”
The report did not do that at all.

Now everyone’s a militia rightwing nutjob.. reverse McCarthyism?

Only an anti-capitalist, communist, typical anti-American Democrat would RAISE taxes and SPEND trillions of dollars (that are NOT his) when our economy is the “worst since the Great depression.” Okay, so HOW do you BORROW your way OUT of debt “Mr. Obama?” How? How does raising taxes HELP the citizens of this country? How? How does that spur economic growth sir? How?
And look out now America, in response to AVERAGE hard working Americans who have decided ‘enough is enough’ and are gathering their pitchforks and torches to protest the tax & spend raping of US Taxpayers by our newly elected Hugo Chavez wannabe president, Homeland Security-headed by radical leftist & lesbian anti-capitalist Janet ‘Reno’ Napalitano, has deemed all you PATRIOTS as rightwing threats to national security!! I guess moveon.org is a peace organization??
Only an American-hating communist would now threaten ALL honest, hard working Americans WHO DO NOT AGREE with Obama-anism as being rightwing extremists and security threats. Is Bill Ayres on the list? Nope. Is Ward Churchill on the list? Are the communist professors at Berkeley on the list? I guess Code Pinkers can protest on George Bush’s front lawn all day long, but should conservatives protest, we can’t have any dissent all of a sudden.
New era in Washington is not about freedom is it? Nope. You voted for a communist and that’s what you’re getting.