Pot smokers vs. President Obama: Let’s Vote
Barack Obama issued a proclamation today celebrating the drug education program D.A.R.E., prompting the question of whether he’s trying to put some distance between his administration and the issue of legalizing marijuana. If so, not a bad idea, given the platform he's inadvertently given the subject.
Obama opposes legalization, as did 63 percent of Americans in a CBS poll last month. But that we’re even discussing it attests to the legalization lobby's effective use of Obama-sponsored online balloting – underscoring not just that pot smokers can get their act together, but also the utter manipulability of these click-in ballots.
Consider:
-After the election the Obama transition team invited Americans to visit its website and vote on the top policy questions facing the country. Forget the economy, war, health care, climate change. No. 1 on the list: Legalizing marijuana.
-Then in Obama’s online "town hall" March 26, the top-voted questions in the budget, financial stability and "green jobs" categories, and No. 2 in health care, all were about pot legalization.
I’ve written before about the unreliability of online ballots – not just their lack of representativeness, but their vulnerability to intentional manipulation. After the town hall, Obama’s spokesman, Robert Gibbs, griped that pot legalization advocates had mounted a campaign to stuff the ballot box. Apparently true. But the administration, of course, has now twice given them the perfect venue in which to do so.
Then again, the White House isn't alone, as the brains behind NASA's “Stephen Colbert Wing” of the International Space Station may attest. One wonders what they were smoking.
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A group presenting the view of 37% of Americans keeps shoving a simple question in front of the administration. The administration keeps giving a simple answer. This doesn’t seem like much of a problem, and the discussion it is prompting looks like a good one to have. This is exactly the sort of question that these non-traditional, chaotic online ‘polls’ are valuable for bringing up.
Posted by: jhw539 | April 8, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
I am sad that Obama has trashed this country to our friends over seas. They think Obama is a loser
Posted by: Henry | April 8, 2009, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm
The Government doesn’t want mind expanding substances legal. They would rather keep their citizens dumb.
Tax pot and lead us out of this recession. Maybe a nation of pot smokers would not want to start wars with other countries.
Pot will not be legal because major tobacco and pharmaceutical companies can’t compete with a natural substance with no side effects.
Posted by: Joe the smoker | April 8, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
I think we need to include help for anyone that is so crazy,bored enough to look for places to bash someone that has not had a chance to fix 8 years of crap!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: toomuchhate | April 8, 2009, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
The point it not to have a nation of whacked out smokers. Legalization would release people who are serving time. It would lighten the load on the Courts, Police and the jails. It sure seems like that would save taxes since we would no longer need so many new prisons.
Posted by: txview98 | April 8, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
If D.A.R.E. didn’t have a voice Obama would have continued his quest to legalize drugs. Obama is a conditional decision maker; none of his decisions are based on our Godly moral convictions, but what makes him Obama the focal point. He is an unqualified, arrogant, stutting self serving man. He is failing and Americans will not have him much longer. The Bible says “Pride goes before the fall” Wow maybe you unbelievers need to get educated from the God of this Nation. This nation has never failed or fallen because of our Great God.
Posted by: Cec | April 8, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Cec…Hehe.
Posted by: sngeorgia | April 8, 2009, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
I am so glad. This would be the only good thing done by Mr. Obama since becoming President. Still I continue
maintaining my “F” vote for his first 100 days.
Posted by: marianao415 | April 8, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
I can never seem to catch these votes, but I can tell you I would vote YES on the pot. Let me explain. I am not a pot smoker nor a drinker but,I have been married twice. My first husband was a drinker and a pot smoker. When drunk I was his punching bag, black and blue from head to toe at one time or another. When he smoked pot he was so loving not a mean bone in his body.
My second husband has cost us $50,000 for DUI’s. When he smoked pot he to was gentle. He to is mean when he drinks, but does not hit. Then our government puts a high tax on cigarettes? Put it on the alcohol. Wonder if they ever did a study on what their precious BOOZE cost this country. Tax the pot and make it legal I guarantee their will be a drop in crime both public and private.
Just imagine less domestic violence less crime less disorderly conduct. They say it’s because of the cost of health. Well over 48,000 die in fatal accidents per year put a price tag on that! Pay off the national TAX pot and Alcohol.
Posted by: Ellen Knight | April 8, 2009, 6:51 pm 6:51 pm
Ellen,
What a story! I can not imagine the hell your were put through, and I read the truth in your words. Alcohol kills. No debate, and no one can question that…as does ciggs. Especially the thousands of creepy drugs put in cigs.I battle the tobacco addiction every day. Now that they cost over $5 a pack, bye bye smoking. I know exactly what happens when a person gets high daily, and the same for being drunk. Give the people the responsibility to moderate their choices. If one can purchase legally a fifth of 100 proof booze, and fall over dead, or kill innocent people, as you mentioned, I see no reason, NONE that pot equals jail time, but let’s drink all night long…smoke tobacco, too!! See the reason…it’s ALL designed to create zillions of dollars for Doctors, Hospitals, Local Municipalities, Lawyers, etc. it makes me sick. We the people. Remember that?? Come on America…STAND UP for WE THE PEOPLE!! Change MUST happen.
Posted by: J. White | April 8, 2009, 7:54 pm 7:54 pm
CBS Poll = Complete BullS Poll
1142 adults nationwide does not represent 80 million Americans. It’s no wonder that CBS has been losing viewer ship for many years they seem to have remained in an era of Harry Anslinger and box car racing wow! Hey here’s a suggestion try reinventing CBS into the 21century then maybe you won’t see a steady trend of reverse revenue streams.
Posted by: RealiyChk | April 8, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
If they did make it legal. They would probably tax the hell out of it anyway. I retired from the Navy and I can’t afford cigarettes and I can’t get a appointment at my local VA Doctor to get some nicotine gum to help me out. Read I only have a 3% chance to quit without some help. Cigarettes.
Posted by: Thomas Hopkins | April 8, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
I don’t smoke Pot, and still I think it should be legal, think about it. People pay 10 for a “dime” bag, thats less then it would take make a whole pack of Pot Cigs… To make 20 pot cigs it would cost a person about 50 on the street, Make it legal, tax it and grow it. Not only are you lifting out Nation out of the money problems, but you are putting new jobs out there. Really if people wanna smoke weed now they do… It doesn’t matter if its legal or not they do. And the whole country knows they do. So why not make money, and jobs from something that is gonna be done anyhow
Posted by: Matt | April 9, 2009, 7:54 am 7:54 am
I resent being portrayed as a drug user. I do not use recreational drugs or misuse/abuse prescription drugs. I don’t believe your characterization applies to the late William F. Buckley or Milton Friedman either. I do not support legalizing marijuana, per se. I oppose prohibition. I oppose the waste of resources on ineffective policies especially when they promote violence, organized crime, and the imprisonment of millions of Americans for menial transgressions. These prohibitions, also, hinder effective programs that could have positive effects with the problem of drug misuse and abuse. It is STUPIDITY to keep policies that have so demonstratively failed.
Posted by: Tim Schram | April 9, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Funny, evaluation studies say D.A.R.E was ineffective.
Posted by: Josh | April 9, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
The sad thing is that if the marijuana question had NOT surfaced, those “Open For Questions” sessions would be hailed as a ‘great success’, and not some ‘hijacked fluke.’ When is Obama and the nation going to realize that support for legalization IS large and widespread? When are they going to WAKE UP?
Posted by: Philo | April 10, 2009, 4:06 am 4:06 am
I don’t like pot, and I find the odor repusling when someone withing 100 feet lights up–yes you really can smell it at least that far away… But I find the name of this blog very confusing “Pot smokers vs. President Obama…” You see Obama and most pot smokers actually have something in common–both Obama and the pot smokers DID INHALE. Yep, that’s right. Don’t let anyone paint a rosey picture that isn’t accurate. He tried it just like anyone other late teenager that went to college. That said it’s hypocritical for Obama to oppose the legallization of pot without the same restrictions placed on alcohol. Maybe then our favorite government orginazation could be called BATFEM! Not to hijack the thread, but shouldn’t Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms be a store and not government agency? Back to the subject, we’re talking about a naturally occuring weed–really does grow wild in many states–that is about a carcinogenic as tobacco and as intoxicating as alcohol. And yes, cops can smell it on people who do it and drive–it’s also just as easy to test for as alcohol…
Posted by: rob | April 12, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Legalize it. I share the same opinion as those before me. Tax it and sell it. Honestly, no one has the American consumers best interest because everyone (goverment and such) wants to tax us to death to begin with. The only reason why they are going after the tobacoo giants like they have is because they are making so much damn money. They won’t go after Alcohol companies because they are all drunks themselves and there is probably a great big kick back somewhere in the picture too. They don’t give a hoot what happens to us they just want our money. When they can figure out a good way to tax it and get beyond the Christain mind set they will offer it to the American consumer.
Posted by: Rachel | April 12, 2009, 12:24 am 12:24 am
currently i only have one choice, i smoke, i choose to smome, if i smoke at all, i must deal with a dealer…..i should have a choice like being able to grow three weed plants a year and not be considered a criminal and then i could stop dealing with the bad guys,and my gov. could have time to really chase the dealers…..
Posted by: Mr.Me | April 14, 2009, 10:00 am 10:00 am
I think what most of what the Generation X group, and there younglings are trying to say is that the War on drug’s is a loosing battle. Marijuana does not cause traffic accidents that kill people Alcohol does. For being a mind expanding drug I, don’t think so. Marijuana gives off the feeling of feeling alright, your quite alert it also makes you hungry, thristy and you laugh. I can’t think of any time that someone actually started a war or a fight being high on marijuana, were as to it’s counter part alcohol which has caused a lot of problems for a lot of folks. As the the Drug companies I’d think they like to get in on the high profit of the industry. It’s the Alcohol related companies that don’t want marijuana legalized. Let’s go back to prohabition when alcohol was illegal and marijuana wasn’t politicians in washington DC were persueded with there payoff’s and alcohol was legalized and marijuana was banded by the US Government, it never was an issue on any ballot to be voted on by the people just like alcohol. I feel that Alcohol kills our children that drive automobiles and it kills there mind’s. Where as to marijuana has it’s medical benefits for folks that have glucoma that is a vision disorder and marijuana doesn’t kill. With the correct regulation placed on marijuana consumption and taxed by the Government, this not only would end an era of war that the Reagan Adminstration placed on the DEA to battle back in the early 1980′s it has cost the American taxpayer plenty and there loosing the war. It’s ever going support for more coming into our country daily and there seems to be no end to it. If it were legalized this would be a blow to the one’s bringing it in and a country with it’s consumers would turn a profit the government could not even imagine….
Posted by: ThanxFrank | April 14, 2009, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL IT DOPE?
I’m a recovering alcoholic/addict/smoker
who can be addicted to anything that feels good, tastes good, etc., and I know one of the worst things for me is being able to do whatever I want, when I want to do it. Three of the biggest health problems in America are legal lifestyle choices. What if we make everything legal? The laws we have are the only thing that keeps us from complete anarchy. I’ve smoked the pot, and all I’d feel like doing is sitting back waiting for someone else to take care of everything. EVERYTHING WAS COOL; UNTIL I WOKE UP. I find it interesting when the radio stations have people calling in about legalization of marijuana, that most of the supporters, are the best arguments against legalization
Posted by: PARMA HTS GARY | April 15, 2009, 10:17 am 10:17 am
before anyone FREAKS OUT, i’ll tell ya, i’m a patient, not a criminal and WOULDN’T be alive today if it wasn’t for POT!!!! instead of having a closed mind, give it a chance, make it a “pilot program” for a set number of years, see how things work out, if it turns to “anarchy”, cancel it–but ALLOW PATIENTS to have access. i have suffered with chronic pain due to a degenerative condition in my spine and would have died with out it from all of the prescription medications doctors’ were more than happy to write!!! prior to my illness, i was a productive member of society, on the meds, i lost over seventy pounds and would have died if it wasn’t for a hospice nurse recommending it. i was never for total legalization, but in doing research on medicinal use, i became EDUCATED on all of the positive aspects, no overdoses, no domestic violence, and it works well on severe nerve pain. i will sit down with ANYONE to debate the issue. i live in illinois where a medicinal use bills are currently being voted on in our legislature. i am greatly dismayed that support has been split down party lines, whe that happens, it means one side doesn’t want to be “confused” by facts!!!!!
Posted by: mike g | April 15, 2009, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
How is that these right wing nuts are trying to blame a less then three month president for the problems of the country for their eight year man that they voted for twice and all the mistakes that he made , legalizing weed will do no more harm then that has already been by bushes failed presidency.
Posted by: KWOLF443 | April 16, 2009, 8:32 am 8:32 am
Certainly a Hot Topic, no easy answers. I have Multiple Sclerosis, and there have been many studies on how marijuana is beneficial. I know first hand the side effects of the medicines I take, it just means more medications for them also. I hate the thought of all the man-made chemicals being heaped upon me, and I am not fond of the various MS pain and symptoms. Is it right that I am denied something that will ease it? People are using it anyway, it is not going to be stopped. It is not any worse than alcohol, has proven medicinal benefits and we need the money.
Posted by: Linda | April 16, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
Legalizing weed is a bad idea. It would kill the multi-billion dollar black market that sells it illegally everywhere in the United States thus further ruining the economy. Its actually the #1 U.S. gross-domestic product but the government doesnt want you to know that! It also would not be properly taxable because rather than buy it at the store most people would just grow it and the government wouldnt make any money. The local and municipal government makes more money arresting people, taking them to court, jailing them, fining them, court costing them, forced rehabbing them (taking their insurance money) etc. Also it would mean we (as a nation) would need less police, less courts, less jails, less jail-guards, less jail cooks, less prosecutors, less baliffs, less police cars, less reason for towns states and counties to ask the federal government for handouts and bailout money, less DEA agents, less public defenders, less drug dogs, less drug dog trainers, less police equipment, less fuel for police cars, etc. So this would force the government to LAY OFF a lot of the people (government employees) listed above who depend on weed to make a living. Whether they admit it or not! Why would the government commit political suicide? Also we are at war in Afganistan and we arent burning down the opium poppy fields there. We are just offering ‘alternatives’ to them growing poppies but still we allow it. Heroin also keeps this countries government alive for the same reason.
Posted by: omgnoway | April 18, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
Oh yeah and less prisons.
Posted by: omgnoway | April 18, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Less probation officers, less urine-testers and labs, less parole officers, less corrections officers…
Posted by: omgnoway | April 18, 2009, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Not to mention several million less drug dealers selling it to children on a street corner instead of buying it a liquor store or coffee house. Why would the government want that?
Posted by: omgnoway | April 18, 2009, 8:49 pm 8:49 pm
They say pot stays in your system for 30 days, but your only high for maybe 3 hours, big money maker for the courts
Posted by: mi. | April 19, 2009, 3:34 am 3:34 am
for christ sake….. its a HERB! GROWN OUT OF THE GROUND LIKE MY WIFES FLOWERS! PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME A REASON ITS THAT BAD! Yeah… we will lose lots of the officers that are paid and the dogs and the other 2 sence that linda put in the topic. but reguradless….. it doesnt make people violent…. it doesnt make them commit suicide which causes more cold cases on this planet. and may i said with bold structure that making it legal… can put Less stress on people.. less drama given in the court house.. you know. when the judge wakes up and they have a marijiuana case too solve…. they already have it all figured out. 9 months probation . then there on probation, fail the 2nd time because its a problem in there systems that they really cant help because they are just as addicted too it as they are tobacco. They go too prison / juvi. And people in prison and juvi EVEN THEN have the drug there. But there are crazy epople that. And the criminal justice system has another issue when that person dies in jail. When instead, that person could of sat at home and been relaxed just smoking and feeling good. You be the judge. Legalize!
Posted by: qweqweqwe | April 20, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
It’s not stuffing the ballot box; it’s freedom of speech. President Obama asked for input; a group that risks PRISON and LOSS OF PROPERTY for possessing plants or dried leaves and flowers (??) has a good reason to seek change!
A key question is whether we continue a system in which all of the money flows to criminals and guns, or do legalize and tax marijuana so the money can flow to the public treasury and rebuilding America?
Support a personal use and cultivation permit: $100 for twelve plants. Let’s let ordinary Americans grow a little marijuana in their own backyards and put the criminal drug lords out of business.
Posted by: Concerned Citizen | April 20, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
[QUOTE]I’m a recovering alcoholic/addict/smoker
who can be addicted to anything that feels good, tastes good, etc.,[/QUOTE]
Apparently you have an addictive nature and should avoid anything that would cause you further problems. But just because you (and a very minor percentage of people) are genetically predisposed so that you’ll become addicted to -anything- doesn’t mean that the vast majority shouldn’t be able to do it.
Or put another way, according to your statement we should ban Alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, painkillers, cough syrup, hell, even sugar. Matter of fact, why don’t we just ban breathing, that way we can all hold our breath until Heyzeus Christo makes his big comeback tour.
– :D
Posted by: jester1976 | April 22, 2009, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
It’s insane to me that’s 2009 and marijuana prohibition is still law.
Why should the government tell us what we can and cannot put in our own bodies? Particularly when marijuana is far less dangerous than other things which are legal (cigarettes, alcohol, and pharmaceutical drugs.)
Legalizing marijuana will help America in many ways. It will save resources & money. It will decrease crime (making something that lots of people enjoy illegal creates a black market – look at alcohol prohibition in the 1920s for more information.) It could help raise money through taxation. It would free up law enforcement to work on *real* crime (ie robberies, rapes, & murders.)
But more important than all of those factors: Legalizing marijuana is a civil liberties issue. Remember that this country is supposed to be “the land of the free” ??? It’s time to make that more than a slogan.
Posted by: Jonny | April 30, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
@thview98
Keep your god out of my business. More blood has been shed in his name than in all the drug wars on Earth, ever.
Posted by: jeremy | April 30, 2009, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Ugh. That was @cec, sorry @txview98
Posted by: jeremy | April 30, 2009, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
I’ve never smoked weed or used any non-prescription/non-OTC drugs, and barely used alcohol (just enough not to be a tea-totaller). I’m still against prohibition and strongly believe that every person has a right to their own body and what they want to put in it.
In fact, I’m against criminalizing ANYTHING that isn’t demonstrably harmful. It isn’t our right to interfere in the personal choices that other people make. That’s what FREEDOM is all about, though I know that has always been rather unpopular in the United States and many other societies.
Posted by: Alan | May 1, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
This issue should not be put to a vote… It will probably never have a majority’s support, but that is due to the nature of the issue, not what side of the issue the public stands on.
This issue, at it’s core, regardless of anything else, is an issue of individual freedoms. No majority has the right to vote on what individuals do in their private lives.
Marijuana has been conclusively proven of less health damage than Alcohol. And as long as Marijuana remains illegal, while we are free to use a more harmful drug, the government’s policy on this issue is hypocritical.
Responsible adults should be free to do whatever they like with their bodies… Only being punished for it if they behave irresponsibly or cause harm to others.
On top of all that, evidence quite clearly shows that Prohibition is COUNTERPRODUCTIVE towards it’s own goals. Meaning that if you support prohibition, you are actually supporting making the problems worse.
Legalization with regulation, like we have for alcohol, is the best alternative, for all sides of the issue.
Posted by: OkinSama | May 4, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
I am a certified substance abuse counselor with 30 years experience in my field, 17 years of which I spent in DUI countermeasures. During the past 20 years I was also a volunteer E.M.T.
I know all too well the devastating consequences suffered by individuals and society due to the abuse of certain drugs, especially alcohol. And I fully support the legalization of marijuana for personal adult use.
Posted by: Blackhorse 70V | May 8, 2009, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
I can’t figure out why conservatives go nuts at the mention of MJ legalization when their hero’s William F. Buckley, Jr. and Milton Friedman advocated legalization. I think it’s a mistake to say the legal drug industry is the primary in fighting legalization, they have no authority, it’s the Police, Judges, and government that love prohibition. Bill Clinton was well on his way to getting a prohibition of tobacco. Follow the money. You guy’s did a good job of listing the benefactors of prohibition, you left out the terrorists, police unions,and illegal’s. As Buckley said, MJ prohibition is a Plague on out society.
Posted by: bob whiting | May 14, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
marijuana should be legal its basically legal in Canada and parts of europe it should be decriminalized all over the u.s. if not legalized in my opinion. it could also help the economy and also lead to scientific studies, many colleges cant legally study marijuana or thc. but some studies of concentrated thc have concluded that brain cell growth can occur in humans.
Posted by: robbert | June 19, 2009, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
i used to like smoking weed i never seen it on tv that it’s ever killed anybody.unlike going to the store buying beer and havind a wreck putting others in dander. actually it calms people down but im drug free but i sure would like to get high rite about now……i just think the goverment just dont no how to give it a price …..if i wasnt on probation i’d prolly be smoking.
Posted by: jennifer lewis | July 21, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
I have a comment, first off, maybe being
able to smoke marijuana, is not the best thing, to repair the bad economy,it’s about having personal,freedom’s, that we can enjoy something that GOD, put on this earth that we live on.to maybe do us some good, this maybe not be for every one,
but the one’s that want it, should be able to get it, without retributation!
Obama, please do not be a hipocrite,let the
people be free, as the are suppopsed to be in the USA,andhave a say so, even if two people don’t blike it.thank’s and have a nice day.
Posted by: steve the plumber | October 4, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
just comment !yes!
Posted by: juzbeast | October 27, 2009, 1:59 am 1:59 am
im 18 but i was smokeing weed since 14 it helps me relax and get all my worries behind me so i vote yes 4 weed
Posted by: zach | November 23, 2009, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
I am not a smoker, but I did have family and friends who are wonderful , hard working, good people, who are or was, in jail for years or paying huge fines because of them smoking or helping thier friends get it.I see families torn apart because of the people want a little release from the strain of life. I have seen many people smoke and never get violant,maybe eat a little more than usual. Then when they drink alcohole,they go crazy, and hurt other people and alcohole is legal. Also all the votes to legalize it , many people do not see the advertisement to vote , so how can we get the real numbers.
Posted by: DEE | May 17, 2010, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
make pot legal mr president and i will vote for you next election thank you pot for all
Posted by: dog the pot smoker | January 2, 2011, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
i had rather for my kids too smoke and drive than drink and drive thanks pot for all
Posted by: dog the pot smoker | January 2, 2011, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm