President Obama Heralds Tax Cuts While Gibbs Tweaks Tea Party Protestors

Were is Distraction Dog when you need him?

It’s Tax Break Day for the Obama administration.

How much was the tax cut for most of these people? How much was an actual cut, and how much a reduction in withholding?
I wonder if it occurs to Gibbs or Obama that many people simply don’t buy their projections and considering that, don’t trust his math.

Will Obama go on Leno tonight?
He needs some kind of distraction from what is going on around the country.
Maybe he can take his shirt off and accidentally get photographed.
Where’s Bo?

lmao O-DUMB-Ah new tax code: how much you make? send it to me
Today Obama is the laughing stock of millions as networks scramble not to let the people see what is going on…DUMP THE MEDIA STOCKS GE, DISNEY, CBS inc, TIME WARNER, NYTs, WASHINGTON POST,
time till this post is down ….20 seconds and counting

So did the tea parties get hundreds of thousands of people like FoxNews breathlessly told us for the last 2 weeks?
Looks like its not so good.
In Boston, which held its protest in Boston Common, near the State House, about 500 people showed up, fewer than the 1,500 that had responded on the internet.

“I guess that depends on the individual consumption with nicotine habits involved in those at tea parties around the country. – Gibbs” ..That, my friends, tells you the way this administration plans on looking down on/treating AMERICANS, who do not agree with them. If you do not bow to Obama, if you are not marked with their number, you are scum. And remember, the Department of Homeland Security has your number.

This is so easy to fix. Call Neil Boortz radio personality, and Representative John Linder. They have the correct answer to overhauling the tax system. It is called the FAIR TAX.Implementing the tax code will fix all the tax problems.

Small turn out for tea parties? Must be because most of us, who wanted to attend, had a job.

Large turnout in New Haven, CT fot Tea Party. Lasted about 4 hrs.

Live Free From Socialism or Die Trying!
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Sadly, many of you conservatives are already intellectually dead…..And it has nothing to with trying to live free from socialism….

Fair tax, yes. Flat tax, no. I will go to my grave believing that it is morally wrong to tax beans at the same rate as caviar.

Then there’s the inflation tax that will come from all the printing to bailout Barry’s beloved bankers. Which will make that lousy $13/week worth exactly nothing once Helicopter Ben’s inflation machinations come to fruition.
Or is monetary/price inflation not a concept Big Bank Barry is familiar with?
The Capitol Hill Clowns are driving us down The Road to Serfdom at a breakneck pace continuing on with Bushonomics (big spending, printing and borrowing) only now, it’s on steroids.
Enjoy your Change®, suckers!
Government Sachs has the matter well in hand.

The 95% income tax cut is a lie.
95% of Americans do not pay income taxes.
Only approximately 70% of Americans pay income taxes.
Therefore, Americans who do not pay taxes are not getting a “tax cut”.
If anything, they are getting a federal welfare check.
And, furthermore, the tea parties aren’t just about taxes.
They are also about the reckless, irresponsible spending that will affect everyone down the road(more business failures, higher inflation).
They are also about the crushing loss of liberty due to the vast high handed expansion of government by Obama.
And, in any event, Obama does favor high taxes on the poor and middle class(eg. gas taxes, cigarette taxes)

I prefer bigger government to oversight greedy companies. I do not like bigger Gov to oversight ME! Pick one!
Posted by: Really? | Apr 15, 2009
Well said… Keep government small except in people’s bedrooms and doctor’s offices.

It is SHAMEFUL that the national media is ignoring the TEA DAY RALLIES across America! If this was two guys on a corner protesting for gay marriage, then ABC would be all over it.

Why are neo-cons so concerned about welfare all of a sudden? Shouldn’t you have been this outraged when we gave Iraq the biggest welfare check in American history?

This President has contributed to the economic failures.
He was part of the Democratic Congress we’ve had since 2007.
He didn’t lift a finger to reform Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac(in fact he resisted reforms ad was the second largest recipient of Fannie Mae campaign contributions).
Bush and McCain both proposed reforms to Fannie Mae(which Obama opposed).
He voted for TARP one and he has voted for every reckless spending program since then(ramming through these bills containing hidden major policy changes with little or no debate).
At the same time, he is destroying the First Amendment by trying to silence conservative and opposition speech through “diversity in ownership” rules designed to silence Rush, Hannity, and other conservative talk show hosts.

The reason you did not get a tax cut is you do not work. and even if you got a tax cut you would have said you did not get one . Its not about taxes you know that. President Obama is the best.
The people spoke, get over it.

A quick example of how FoxNews lies
Fox report on Boston protest attendance
Close to 2,000 demonstrators in Boston — some dressed in colonial wigs with tea bags hanging from their glasses — held signs and read speeches lambasting government spending since President Obama took office.
Also in the same article
Crowds of up to 5,000 are expected in 300 cities in seven states, including New York, Atlanta, Tulsa, Philadelphia, Boston, Hartford, and Indianapolis.
Actual attendance figures
In Boston, which held its protest in Boston Common, near the State House, about 500 people showed up, fewer than the 1,500 that had responded on the internet.

Mr. President, We’ve got your back against tyrants and traitors.

“He didn’t lift a finger to reform Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac(in fact he resisted reforms ad was the second largest recipient of Fannie Mae campaign contributions).”
Obama proposed the STOP act aimed at mortagage fraud.
“Bush and McCain both proposed reforms to Fannie Mae(which Obama opposed).”
McCain proposed nothing, he gloomed onto a bill that languished in committee for over a year before he became a cosponsor.
And the miraculous “reform” for Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac?
Removing Congressional oversight.

GIbbs is lying. The cap and trade energy tax will remove all of the other tax cuts plus some and be, in reality, a tax increase. never mind the incredible deficits that Obama is creating which must be paid back. These guys are nothing but frauds.

“It is SHAMEFUL that the national media is ignoring the TEA DAY RALLIES across America”
A few hundred right wingers and FoxNews viewers deserve coverage?

“ABC, NBC and CBS and the rest of the national media are appalling. Even if YOU don’t agree with the TEA PARTIES…YOU SHOULD BE COVERING THEM.”
They actually are covering them and covering for them.
They don’t mention how small the protests are compared to projections and they don’t pull away during crowd shots to show how small the crowd is.

I was watching some of the people protesting and they made no sense.

“They actually are covering them and covering for them.”
What did you expect? Everyone knows that ABC, NBC and CBS are nothing but right-wingers.
In the meantime, tell us which taxes have been cut for the slothful 43%.

Fascist Hyena:” Unemployment will continue to rise. Keep your eye on it. And remember that Mr. Obama owns it.”
Sure I shot him five times officer, but when I kicked him to the emergency room curb he was still breathing, so OBVIOUSLY those ER doctors are to blame for his death not me. They own it.

What percentage of the below $200K families smoke? Probably the lower income portion and they just received a huge tax increase. Obama and Gibbs are liars.

I filed my taxes and these guys should too, I often feel like I am beign penalized for beign single and childless during tax time. When do I get a break for not increasing the population?

” that is the basis of modern government for over a millennia [sic].”
So, which government was the most modern in, say, 1156 A.D.? And how come the US congress wasn’t empowered to tax personal income until the 16th amendment was passed?

“OBVIOUSLY those ER doctors are to blame for his death not me.”
If they had fired additional bullets into his chest, they surely would be to blame. And that is what Obama has done, and is continuing to do.

The fairly well attended Tea parties around the country cannot be brushed aside as insignificant and are supposed to be against the politicians of both the major parties who have shown the audacity of being indifferent to the voice of we the people. There is a resentment brewing in the country against the bailout, the wall street swindling and the mounting deficit. Some people in this movement are trying to make it an anti-Obama movement and that is deceptive and unacceptable to those who of us not a part of the movement but who are observing it from the sidelines and who welcome some of the changes that Obama has already made but resent the lack of change and movement away from the Bush economic and defense policies.

obama’s trillions in deficits are bankrupting the country. He singed a stimulus bill he never even read. This is not responsible government and he needs to be throttled. Elect a different congress in 17 months that just says “NO” to Obama.
You failed to note that three republicans crafted the bill, so you call your own party out. NO! Why b/c you dont know b/c you did not read the bill either.

The 95% income tax cut is a lie.
95% of Americans do not pay income taxes.
Only approximately 70% of Americans pay income taxes.
Therefore, Americans who do not pay taxes are not getting a “tax cut”.
If anything, they are getting a federal welfare check.
And, furthermore, the tea parties aren’t just about taxes.
They are also about the reckless, irresponsible spending that will affect everyone down the road(more business failures, higher inflation).
They are also about the crushing loss of liberty due to the vast high handed expansion of government by Obama.
And, in any event, Obama does favor high taxes on the poor and middle class(eg. gas taxes, cigarette taxes)
Posted by: ConstantXI | Apr 15, 2009
There’s a difference between large amounts of spending that will generate a return such as with health care, education and energy…as opposed to massive spending to outsource our jobs by giving tax incentives to corporations to move overseas…ans funding a trillion dollor war that wasn’t needed….and I was there. We didn’t belong there. There is no return on the money we spent there…

rj3141 – Now you know how us Ron Paul supporters felt as the republican neoconservative types were turning a deaf ear.

Ok first of all I really think that Obama has screwed the nation over even more. His massive stimulus bill put this nation deeper into debt. I guess no one has seen that, but when Bush wnated to spend money evenyone was screaming an saying how much were are in debt. Now no one seems to care. I really think that we are seeing the cahnge from a democracy to a socialistic country. thanks for all those who voted to have a moron run the country.
Posted by: Seth Vesco
There’s a difference between large amounts of spending that will generate a return such as with health care, education and energy…as opposed to massive spending to outsource our jobs by giving tax incentives to corporations to move overseas…ans funding a trillion dollor war that wasn’t needed….and I was there. We didn’t belong there. There is no return on the money we spent there…

Posted by: Devil_Mutt | Apr 15, 2009 4:12:02 PM
Great post!

To those who want to marginalize today’s tea parties, you completely miss the point! This is not about democrat or republican, rich vs poor, white vs black!
THIS IS ABOUT STUPID SPENDING AND TAXING ANYONE TO JUSTIFY IT!
Honestly, how far can you go to rationalize spending on “wants” on top of “needs” in a down economy? Call it a “crisis?” Give us a break!
In your household you have a limited income and a budget that includes spending on basics for yourself and possibly your family. Are you going to tell us ts OK to spend more than you bring home, especially on luxuries? Do you really do that? If not, why should we allow our government to do it?
Our Free Market has survived many obstacles over the years. Even the Depression! So please, stop bashing efforts to convince our politicians to stop throwing every wishlist earmark around as “needed” to avert a “crisis!”

“Yet another example of blind, ideologically-based, knee-jerk reaction… What makes you think your “source” of “actual attendance” is accurate?”
Because its the Boston police.
And you’ll notice that FoxNews reported attendance in excess of those who had RSVP’d.
But hey when your whole life centers around being spoonfed by Fox, I imagine its quite upsetting when its demonstrated how they LIE to your face.

Why is it that when someone disagrees with Gibbs, that he can’t answer in a professional manner? His remarks are always sarcastic and snarky.

“Ryan C – what do you care how many people show up to a rally? The truth is that over 500 rallies & parties have been organized and there is a movement growing.”
The truth is this experiment in media marketing By FoxNews and the rest of the right wing talking heads is an EPIC FAIL at this point.
More people showed up to protest the anniversary of the Iraq Invasion last month with ZERO media coverage or promotion.

Tired of Republican evil lies and manipulations?
Tired of 8 years of subjugation and abused by republicans?
I say that we waited for 8 years to have a real American President.
And Finally we have one.
I say we Stand UP to Republican lies.
I say we stand up to extremist that all they want if the coming down of a democratic elected government.
I say we stand up to anti-patriots that only care about themselves and no-one else.
I say Americans Stand Up to this republican nonsense.
8 years of republican evil doings is enslavement enough!!

Posted by: Devil_Mutt | Apr 15, 2009 4:16:33 PM
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There’s a difference between economic fascism and social fascism.
We have had economic fascism in this country since the 30s, thanks to that Mussolini-loving, evil SOB FDR.
It’s a bipartisan thing. Both parties practice it, to We the People’s detriment.
Google: Economic Fascism and the Bailout Economy (mises)

I think Obama is the reason why tea parties are happening. He needs to advocate lower taxes

“You know what got us out of the Depression? WWII – MASSIVE government spending on building complex and expensive bombs, planes, tanks, and ships that were literally blown up or sunk into the ocean within a few years.”
I do enjoy the irony of that.
Government spending prolonged the depression until that spending was exponentially increased!

It will be fascinating to see how things are one year from now… The state and local taxation rates will skyrocket while the Federal government wrestles with hyperinflation and discontent from all quarters. The bloom is most definitely off the rose…

HA!:”$14 dollars a week!!!OOOOOOHH!!AAAHHHHHHH!!GO FORTH AND SAVE THE ECONOMY!!!ROFLMAO”
If you don’t need the $728, then feel free to donate it to a worthy cause. And I’m puzzled at how you seem to think over $80 billion dollars left in people’s pockets will have no impact on the economy. It certainly isn’t enough alone, but it’s not chump change.

I think Obama is the reason why tea parties are happening. He needs to advocate lower taxes
Posted by: nycusa05 | Apr 15, 2009 4:23:24 PM
wow, a website to watch a new president, but not one for the previous president who had 8 years, and raised the debt by 3 trillion, wow. tax cuts for the rich, and never got trickled down to anyone else. Two wars neither brought results. two stimulus packages neither helped 01 and 08. Wow, 750 billion , Pauslon, bush, idea. didnt work. 80 billion unaccounted for.
2008 fundaments of economy are strong says bush and Mccain, what happen 3.5 million jobs lost since sept 08. millions of forclosures, etc.
Wasteful DOD spending for planes and helicopters not even used and more are being built wow. 400 million for white house helicopters, bush’s approved.
GOP controlled senate, nothing got done.
DOP controlled senate, stimulus package which helps unemployed, increase in minimum wage, road and bridge construction, 2500 for education assistance, NCLB gets adequately funded finally. I can go. I am posting facts not a partisan website or news group, faux news.

The simplest tax code of all would be no income tax at all, and implementation of a Federal consumption or sales tax. The next simplest would be a flat tax rate with no loopholes for anyone regardless of income. My guess is that the President’s “simplification” will actually be yet another Democrat trying to juggle the numbers to set up a share the wealth scheme through taxation.

“There’s a difference between large amounts of spending that will generate a return such as with health care, education and energy…”
“Return”? Here’s the return I see:
- Health care: Eventual loss of my private insurance when the govt. crowds out all private insurance; rationing of health care and lower quality for all (hey, but we’ll all be equal! it’s only fair!)
- Energy: Solar is subsized at a rate 30+ times that of nuclear and coal (BTW – two forms of energy that are available 24 hours per day); BTW – when will the hypocrisy of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry end with regards to the Cape Wind project in Nantucket Sound? “Do as I say, not as I do” (“everyone needs to sacrifice” unless you are political class)
- Education: What return are you expecting? Is throwing more money at education the solution? More wasted $$$ and favors to teacher unions. How about reform, school choice, and accountability? Much cheaper, better results

“You’re wrong. What ended the Great Depression were massive tax cuts and massive cuts in government.”
ROFLMAO!
The government was rationing and controlled wages during WW2
The government did not cut taxes and government expanded.
“FDR’s own Treasury Secretary admitted nothing they did helped, rather they only”
Unemployment went down from 25% to 10% in 4 years under the New Deal.
When government ratched back spending to appease Republicans (sound familiar) unemployment jumped again.
It was not until MASSIVE government spending and near government control of the economy that we got out of the Great Depression.

“- Energy: Solar is subsized at a rate 30+ times that of nuclear and coal (BTW – two forms of energy that are available 24 hours per day);”
You think power from solar is only available during the day time and not at night?
ROFLMAO!

The “tea party” rallies are a joke. They were invented, promoted and reported on by FOX news and radio. The only media that feels the necessity to create a news story so they can report on it. The rallies were about as “grass roots” as FOX news is “fair and balanced” neither is a true statement in anyone’s reality. The GOP is under the misassumption that the majority of the American populous is stupid enough to fall for political gimmicks and smoke and mirror economic strategies. The ONLY people that attended the so called “tea parties” and are listening to this dribble are the Lemmings that regurgitate almost word for word everything they hear on Limbaugh and Hannity.

“There’s a difference between large amounts of spending that will generate a return such as with health care, education and energy…”
“Return”? Here’s the return I see:
- Health care: Eventual loss of my private insurance when the govt. crowds out all private insurance; rationing of health care and lower quality for all (hey, but we’ll all be equal! it’s only fair!)
- Energy: Solar is subsized at a rate 30+ times that of nuclear and coal (BTW – two forms of energy that are available 24 hours per day); BTW – when will the hypocrisy of Ted Kennedy and John Kerry end with regards to the Cape Wind project in Nantucket Sound? “Do as I say, not as I do” (“everyone needs to sacrifice” unless you are political class)
- Education: What return are you expecting? Is throwing more money at education the solution? More wasted $$$ and favors to teacher unions. How about reform, school choice, and accountability? Much cheaper, better results
Posted by: tjp612
Education…Build up our schools and colleges. Get out and get a better paying job…which in turn generates more revenue through their income tax.
Healthcare…Please read my prior post. To ad to that…why does every industrial nation that has national health care have a longer life expentancy than we do if their care is so horrible?
Energy…You are only going off of what is available now. If we invest in other ways to find MULTIPLE solutions, then we can have a stronger infrustucture through diversification. Hence with the greatest wind tunnel in the world going through the plain states…you wouldn’t ship that energy to Florida.

“$500.00 a year tax cut is NOTHING and Gibbs stupid response to the cigarette tax (apprx. $1.00 a pack) makes me dislike him for the idiot puppet to Obama that he is”
So a $500 a year tax cut is nothing.
But raising the Fed cig tax by 68 cents (not a $1) would mean a pack a day smoker could expect a tax increase of about $250.
So to recap, you think a $500 tax cut is nothing but you are outraged by a $250 a year tax increase on smokers.

“Somebody below is wrong. Spending did not end the Great Depression. World War II did.”
So how did WW2 end the depression?
Why by MASSIVE government spending!
“—Another thing, I’m SICK of hearing about Obama’s DOG!!!!!!!!”
This is where I think right and left can find common ground.

“The truth is this experiment in media marketing By FoxNews and the rest of the right wing talking heads is an EPIC FAIL at this point. ”
On what basis do you make this assertion? What is your source of data? MSNBC?
“More people showed up to protest the anniversary of the Iraq Invasion last month with ZERO media coverage or promotion.”
Again, sources? Perhaps no media coverage as it might put The One in a bad light since he predicted no way, no how could sending more troops into Iraq improve the situation there. He was simply wrong (as was Joe Biden’s suggestion to partion the country into three separate pieces)…but this is a whole other discussion that will I’m sure will be attacked as it is red meat to leftists.

By the way….we had a very large turnout in downtown Cincinnati!
The crowd was peaceful and respectful of the small group of Obama supporters that attempted to be louder than the speakers. They got their news interview and disbanded. Sure they will get more time on tonight’s news than the message from the tea party group!
FYI…Fountain Square was absolutely clean after we left….unlike when radical left-wing zealouts gather there!

“The Tea Party movement is an incredibly dangerous concept”
Yeah? Obama’s policies and approach to the U.S. economy are incredibly dangerous concepts.
“I hope the protesters fail in their mission to bring their message to a national audience. It’s a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate. … The Tea Party movement represents a real danger to the tenets of democracy Americans have embraced for centuries.”
Dissent is no longer patriotic? Public demonstrations are no longer allowed? This viewpoint seems a bit facist to me…

Let me throw this out there…I see a lot of people on here supporting FOX and bashing ABC…
Why exactly are you on ABC and not FOX right now?

The Bush tax cuts are still in place. When they expire, the stories will change! Taxes will go thru the roof!!
Posted by: a
You are so right…. By a whole 3% for the top 1%. How are they going to live having to buy a BMW instead of a Benz. I mean really…who would be caught dead in a Beemer…oh yeah…I would.

Why does the tax code need to be streamlined? Most of the people who find it too difficult to understand are probably the same people who don’t pay taxes and never will. Should they ever develop the business acumen and sophistication to have a bank account, prepare a P&L statement or take out a loan, they’ll then have no problem reading and completing the return.

The tax code is a monster!! The only folks who seem to like it are the tax accountants and tax lawyers. Please simplify it!! Those with resources are able to game it to their advantage. Many average folk who have tax benefits coming to them fail to get them because they just don’t know about them. Besides taking too much of the middle class’s hard-earned money, the government makes it an ordeal to file an intelligent return. Another thing that’s broken and doesn’t make any sense for average Americans.

I assume, Devil_Mutt, that dissenters are here to ensure that people can see that the illusion that everyone loves the current government and thew path it is taking to be exactly that – an illusion. Independent thought is still alive and well in America despite the government and their groupies’ best attempts to quash it.

on a side note for you “extreme” lefties….. it is april 15th and snowing in las vegas. i know what you are going to say…. “global warming causes freak weather changes such as these”. tomorrow it will be sunny and 75 and that will also be global warming. go figure.

jhw: what are you doing with your smack in the face 10 dollar a week tax break? tax break…. fodder for the left. how do you think you pay for all this? taxes have to go up somewhere sometime. if it’s not smokes, its guns, if its not payroll, it’s energy hikes. one way or another if you think you are not going to be paying more you are on drugs.

Of the “tea party” events I have looked at so far there has been “less than” 1% attendance as compared to population within a 10 mile radius of the event.
Example: Cincinnati has about 2.1 million people that live within a 10 mile radius of Fountain Square. There would have had to of been 21000 people to make 1% attendance. Based on the pictures I seen there were less than 2000. Many were probably in transit on the sidewalks because the photographs were taken about lunch time. Some of the attendees may have been there to protest the protesters

I assume, Devil_Mutt, that dissenters are here to ensure that people can see that the illusion that everyone loves the current government and thew path it is taking to be exactly that – an illusion. Independent thought is still alive and well in America despite the government and their groupies’ best attempts to quash it.
Posted by: Publius
Let me ask you this…If FOX is all you have and everyone else is center or left…and this is a democracy… I’ll let you finish the statement.

The politicians still don’t get it: The income tax is both unconstitutional and illegal — our nation did not have it from 1776-1913.
Then again, how can I expect the politicians to understand when the citizens don’t even understand.

Beyond that, I’d rather argue with an evolutionist at this point.
Posted by: jhw539
Is that because we use facts, evidence and structured, rational thought?

“Ryan C: Actually cigarettes in my state went up over $1.00 a pack. I believe that included a state tax as well.”
So a $365 tax increase (if one smokes a pack a day) vs $500 tax cut.
You cast the increase as a horrible burden then discount the tax cut…why?
“That is beside the point. $500.00 a year is nothing when you consider all the other taxes that Obama is going up on.You didn’t even mention the energy tax which will affect heating your home, driving your car, etc. ——-”
That’s because carbon cap and trade is not law and in now pretty much on the back burner, perhaps even till the next session of Congress.
“All of Roosevelt’s senseless spending projects did not end the Depression.”
Unemployment was cut from 25% to 10% in the first 4 years of the New Deal.
Government spending began to ebb (the two year period before the war) and unemployment rose again.

stickman:”what are you doing with your smack in the face 10 dollar a week tax break? tax break…. fodder for the left. how do you think you pay for all this?”
If I see $10 on the sidewalk, I pick it up and think myself lucky. I’ll probably give it (and the other $600 that accumulates) to Cheech, my mechanic, to get my car tuned up for a few track days this summer. But how is this relevant?
How do you think the US will pay for ANYTHING if the economy is allowed to collapse into a deflationary spiral? It’s not too hard to understand – we can quibble over a 23 or 25% tax rate, but if the total pie is cut in half we’ll be hard pressed to maintain a first world nation infrastructure and ever drag ourselves out.

“Education…Build up our schools and colleges. Get out and get a better paying job…which in turn generates more revenue through their income tax.”
Nicer buildings does not proportionally equate to better results. I grew up in a small town in one of the poorest states in the U.S., but got a great education – Not because of great facilities, but due to great teachers and parents who made education a priority.
“Healthcare…Please read my prior post. To ad to that…why does every industrial nation that has national health care have a longer life expectancy than we do if their care is so horrible?”
Did not read your post (apologies). There are a number of factors that contribute to life expectancy (personal responsibility is high on that list, which we Americans believe hold true in fewer and fewer numbers). Compare cancer survival rates in the U.S. vs. countries with socialized medicine such as the U.K., France, and Canada. Guess who has better rates? The U.S. Why? Because wait times for treatment are shorter and care is not “rationed”.
“Energy…You are only going off of what is available now. If we invest in other ways to find MULTIPLE solutions, then we can have a stronger infrastructure through diversification. Hence with the greatest wind tunnel in the world going through the plain states…you wouldn’t ship that energy to Florida.”
I don’t disagree with alternative energy. What I do take exception with is the government hypocrisy (e.g, Kerry and Kennedy) and their selection of winners and losers. Why not more natural gas (which we have in abundance)? Nuclear? Instead, government decides to promote ethanol, subsidizing agri-business while at the same time driving up corn prices (a staple for the poor in Mexico which led to rioting and government price controls). Further hypocrisy: U.S. places tariffs on cheaper Brazilian ethanol.

global warming, climate change…. change the language all you like, it’s still a lie. let me guess were going back to the 70s now and we should melt the ice caps right? i don’t mean to pick on this issue but it is so easy.
Posted by: stickman
If that’s the case…call it the estate tax and not the death tax. Call it anti-choice instead of pro-life… call it superstition rather than religion. Words matter… too bad the last POTUS didn’t understand that.

Erik:”The concept of tax cuts is a lie. Bottom line: the government is taking in and spending far more money then ever before.”
You do know that the population is higher than ever before, right? At least a couple million more people per year, so OF COURSE the government will take in more and spend more. Isn’t that obvious? What is it on a per capita basis?

“can you name just one policy that barry has that you are against? i can’t wait to read your answer.”
I disagree with him strongly on FISA which is what I posted to you last time you asked.
I don’t think the government should be able to spy on American citizens via secret courts and warrants.

With all the bashing on this board, this tea party turnout must really be getting under liberals skin. Is it because you are afraid it may lead to you losing your entitlements from Nobama? Or maybe its because you may be forced into the capitalist system someday where you will be forced to think and be productive vs. depending on the government? Is it because minority groups like ACORN may lose there movement to socialism? What a pitiful bunch! I’m switching back to FOX news to listen to real Americans. Have a nice day…

Stickman – you are right! Try and buy ammunication for a 9MM or any other kind of gun. Taxes are going to go up on ammo and guns. Taxes are going up on everything. I don’t smoke – thank God! At 5.00/pack that’s a budget killer!
You leftist idiots – why do you think you aren’t going ot have to pay for all of this spending?!! I don’t get it. Maybe it’s OK that your children will be paying for it, so you don’t have to – nice.

Hey I just went to the FOX news site and looked at all the pictures of the Tea Party Rallies. Two things…one I went to FOX because none of the other news sites is even mentioning them and two…not a single person of color in any pictures…so much for a unified America.

I have seen More money on my pay check under President Obama. I am not going to portest that. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT

Why is it the the Neo-Cons can only stomach to say the Presidents name as in insult such as No-Bama or “The One”. I don’t recall many dems doing that to Bush as much as we hated him. We might call him an idiot for policies or the way he was unable to form coherant sentances…but we never resorted to insults. If you’re an idiot then your an idiot. That’s not name calling. No-Obama is in direct contrast of what he is actully trying to do against the grain of the “NO” Party of Reps. Oh the Irony

‘‘We, the People are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts — not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.’’
— Abraham Lincoln

“Why is it the the Neo-Cons can only stomach to say the Presidents name as in insult such as No-Bama or “The One”. I don’t recall many dems doing that to Bush as much as we hated him”
Possibly not in your circles but Bush certainly had his share of disrespectful names including Bushit (as in bs), Chimpy, *, Dumbo, etc.

So, you’re not going to tax income, your going to tax what I spend it on. How is that different except for dirty, sleazy, denial that you just raised taxes on 1/5th of the adult population to pay for health insurance for families who make more than I have ever made in my life?
I tell you, that’s sleazy. You think tax doesn’t cost smokers money?
It was the decision to tax that made me angry, but the denial gives birth to contempt.

I’m also sick of hearing about Obama’s dog that he got from Kennedy. As usual he lied to everybody again. Do you remember he wanted a dog from a shelter?
This is so typical of this so called leader. I wonder, if he was sending men into combat if he would change his mind in the middle of the operation and get a whole bunch of men shot up just because?

Posted by: StopStealingMyMoney | Apr 15, 2009 5:16:23 PM
“With all the bashing on this board, this tea party turnout must really be getting under liberals skin. Is it because you are afraid it may lead to you losing your entitlements?”
No, I’m frankly concerned about the subversive control of the Religious Right over conservative thinking.
For decades, right wing Christians have warned that evil “secular humanists” were taking control of public schools and universities, the news media, and the entertainment industry, with the aim of driving Christianity from American life and creating a “socialist” state. Sound familiar?
For the past 8 years, the response was to attack US national education and challenge the teaching of Evolution. So it concerns me that conservative mouth pieces have rallied their listeners by describing spending on public schools is “fiscal child abuse” and “irresponsible”.
For decades the extreme Religious Right has objected to income tax as “idolatry,” property tax “theft” and inheritance taxes simply not allowed in the Bible. And, over the past 8 years they made inroads to build their version of a “Christian Nation.” Deregulation and tax cuts swept through America’s financial system, as if the free market’s “invisible hand” was the hand of God.
It concerns me that fiscal policy based on tax cuts created a pitiful 5 Million new jobs over 8 years, and it concerns me that deregulation was at the heart of our financial mess. So the Conservative solution is more tax cuts and less government?
President Obama’s proposed new government regulations and a return to earlier tax rates fly in the face of not only conservative economics, but also Right Wing religious beliefs. Obama’s policies jeopardize the ideals of a “Christian Nation”, so I am concerned that these policies have been re-packaged and promoted as “socialism”.

“Possibly not in your circles but Bush certainly had his share of disrespectful names…”
With my buddies it was usually: George W Tush, Dlck Shady and Donald Dumbsfeld.
-couldn’t resist -still bitter I guess…

“So how did WW2 end the depression?”
World War II ended it when other nations made gigantic purchases of US defense equipment from Sept. 1939 on.

I’m also sick of hearing about Obama’s dog that he got from Kennedy. As usual he lied to everybody again. Do you remember he wanted a dog from a shelter?
This is so typical of this so called leader. I wonder, if he was sending men into combat if he would change his mind in the middle of the operation and get a whole bunch of men shot up just because?
Posted by: oldrtoy
Wow…that’s a stretch if I’ve ever seen one. The dog was a gift…he didn’t go to a puppy mill to get one. That was the idea he wanted to promote. And being that the dog had to by hypoalergenic…not a whole lot of muts out there that would fit the bill at a shelter. I mean come on…they took 6 months looking for a dog and couldn’t find one. And for you to reach a conclusion about combat based off of recieving a present… That just goes to show that you are trying your best to instigate an arguement. If you have valid points of disussion…please present them. I doubt you’ve ever been to combat. I have. It’s up to the commanders on the ground to change orders and tactics… The president can only give the go ahead or to stop an operation…not change tactics in the middle of it.

Fascist Hyena:”World War II ended it when other nations made gigantic purchases of US defense equipment from Sept. 1939 on.”
Congratulations on making me literally laugh out loud. Nothing like revising history with a fat point sharpie!

“World War II ended it when other nations made gigantic purchases of US defense equipment from Sept. 1939 on.”
Wrong.
Other nations got US defense equipment on loan and on credit, the famous Lend-Lease program.
I think Norway is the only country to ever repay its WW2 debt in full.

Golly Ned, this is quite fascinating. Here Mr. Obama goes on television and says that he’s cut taxes for 95% of Americans. Yet 43% of Americans pay no federal income tax at all. So I have repeatedly asked–and I ask again right now–which taxes has he cut for that 43%?
I ask the question, and yet not a single one of Obama’s fawning sycophants who regularly show up here can provide an answer–they don’t even try. I am left to conclude that they know their man is simply lying. I can understand their embarrassment.

Center One …say that again…it wasn’t loud enough. Bravo. I think you just summed up in one blog what I’ve been trying to say over the last hour or so…

Ryan C. strikes out yet again. Per the BBC:
“Under the lend-lease programme, which began in March 1941, the then neutral US could provide countries fighting Hitler with war material.
The US joined the war soon after – in the wake of the attack on Pearl Harbour – and the programme ended in 1945.
“The final payment of £45m will be made by the 31 December, meeting a 1945 obligation to repay the debt in full.
“‘Repayment of the war loans to the US Government is expected to be completed on December 31 2006,’ the Treasury’s Ivan Lewis said in a written commons reply.”

This is so typical of this so called leader. I wonder, if he was sending men into combat if he would change his mind in the middle of the operation and get a whole bunch of men shot up just because?
RESPONSE TO IGNORANCE: THIS SO CALL LEADER DID GET NOT SEND US INTO A WAR BASED ON A LIE. SOLDIERS AND MILLIONS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF BLOOD OIL AND PRESIDENT BUSH.

All of these so-called tax protests are just people who voted for John McCain and are still mad. This “grassroots” movement was scattered across the country but nothing like the Obama rallies during presidential election.
A poll released today says that Obama’s economic policies–including his tax cuts–have BROAD support. These protests are very similar to those flash mobs that were so popular just a few years ago.

stickman:”google obama says no more earmarks and there are about 100000000000000 stories on this subject.”
And not a single ACTUAL QUOTE. It seems to be a favorite of the Right to make up pledges and attribute them to Obama. McCain pledged no earmarks, and Obama – when put on the spot to match the pledge during a debate – refused to do so.

WHOS RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE OBAMA OR IS IT HILLARY WHAT ABOUT THE SENTERS THAT DONT PAY THEIR TAXES ? AND THE ONES
ARE IN THIRE IS CRIMINALS LIKE HILLARY IS A FELON ALL THE ONES THAT OBAMA PUT IN HIS PARTY IS A CRIMINALS IT TIME TO PUT THEM WHERE THEY BELONG IN PRISON
WHERE IS THE JUSTIC AT

“They’ve been cut by allowing them to hold on to more of their paycheck rather than the government. This only means they will get a smaller tax return but it would be a wash… They will get that money back in a year or so anyway but now they collect interest on it instead of the government. Doesn’t amount to much but it’s something. Also if they got an extra couple of bucks a paycheck…they are more liekly to spend it as cash rather than putting on the CC. That means they will pay less in interest fees to the banks… Because when they have to use their larger tax return to pay off the credit card that they used little by little over the year…it amounted to a lot of interest that now they might not have to pay.”
What exactly are you huffing, Devil_Mutt? Earn INTEREST on $13 per week? From my calculations that’s an average of about $2.50 for the year. WHOOPEE! Also, where do you get the bizarre idea that someone will spend the $13 each week rather than put it into their checking account. Most people figure how much they need for the coming week and withhold that as cash. They aren’t suddenly going to withhold $53 each week instead of $40 because their net pay is $13 per week more. I’ve read a lot of bizarre defenses of the spending bill but yours is over the top.

Publius:”Also, where do you get the bizarre idea that someone will spend the $13 each week rather than put it into their checking account.”
Just to be clear, you are arguing that a $80 billion tax reduction is a bad thing? I’m really muddy on what your point is, other than you appear to think $10 bills are worthless.

“I’m a liberal too but please use facts…not anger to promote your views. It makes us all look dumb…”
Oh let Robin yell at them, it’s good therapy. Besides, right-wingers mangle facts all the time–in fact it’s standard procedure–and don’t care if they look dumb, so why should we?

He wants to simplify the tax code, yet his “tax cut” has made filing more complicated….. That extra money you are getting in your check right now….The tax tables have not changed, so if you forget to take the “credit” on your taxes next year, you will owe the money back. And that doesn’t cover what married people with two incomes have to deal with. You’d better look at your withholding, because chances are you are now underwithheld and will owe money when you file your taxes next year. The change in the withholding tables assumes that only one person is working. That’s a lot more simple, isn’t it?

“The tax tables have not changed, so if you forget to take the “credit” on your taxes next year, you will owe the money back.”
The tax tables for 2009 are not even out yet.

Ryan C – It is stated on the IRS site that the tables are not changing. There is a credit associated with this so-called tax-cut (which automatically, means that it isn’t actually a tax-cut).

“Publius:”Also, where do you get the bizarre idea that someone will spend the $13 each week rather than put it into their checking account.”
Just to be clear, you are arguing that a $80 billion tax reduction is a bad thing? I’m really muddy on what your point is, other than you appear to think $10 bills are worthless. jhw539″
The point, since you obviously missed it, is that the intent of a stimulus plan is to promote spending. When I got my $300 stimulus check I bought a new mower – something that I hadn’t planned to do until it arrived. How many people (you included, up to now)are planning to kick their heels each week and rush out to spend this tax cut? $13 per week is not to going to stimulate anything. A $100 million Powerball win is a fantastic life-changing experience. Spread over 10 million winners it’s meaningless.

“Ryan C – It is stated on the IRS site that the tables are not changing. There is a credit associated with this so-called tax-cut (which automatically, means that it isn’t actually a tax-cut).”
From the IRS
Payroll Checks Increase This Spring. The Making Work Pay Tax Credit will mean $400 to $800 for many Americans. The IRS has issued new withholding tables for employers. Taxpayers can check the IRS withholding calculator to make sure enough tax is withheld from their pay.
This is the same as the stim checks in that the next tax filing had them built in.

“Of course that really undermines your point that foreign countries were buying war material from us and that is what got us out of the Depression since we just finished getting paid for it.”
Not one bit. Just how do you think all those huge receivables were carried on the nation’s books the minute the goods were shipped?

Ryan C said”Obama promised no earmarks in the stim bill.
There were none.” I almost can’t type, I’m laughing so hard. You obviously didn’t read the stimulus bill. It was FULL of earmarks & pork.

rightbehind said ” Of the “tea party” events I have looked at so far there has been “less than” 1% attendance as compared to population within a 10 mile radius of the event.” That’s because most of the people who want lower taxes and less spending were working while they were going on. I would love to have attended, but I was working.

“It was FULL of earmarks & pork.”
Seriously learn the definition of an earmark as well as the fact that pork and earmarks are not synonymous.

“Ryan C – That is the WITHHOLDING tables, NOT the tax tables. They are TWO DIFFERENT things.”
So by all means copy paste the notice you claim the IRS made.

Bushbama is an interesting nickname. Considering the policies Mr. Obama has not changed from his predecessor, I can not see how some of his supporters can criticize Bush on one hand and support Obama for doing the same thing. Perhaps issues of national security and American economy causes the person in power to only have 1 hand to play, no matter who they are. In this way, one can either sympathize with Bush (perhaps not the worst president?) or give Mr. Obama a little slack for having limited options for change.

Obama’s simpified tax code:just sign your paycheck and send it in.

“Keep in mind that unemployment in 1940–seven years after FDR took office–was still at 17%.”
Keep in mind that when FDR took office the unemployment rate was 25%.
Also keep in mind that in 1940 the unemployment rate was 14.6%.
So basically FDR shaved the unemployment rate nearly in half even with the 2nd recession in ’37-38 (where unemployment spiked to 19% in ’38).
That is quite remarkable.

Gibbs just don’t get it! But if he did I guess he couldn’t remain on the payroll. . . . . The tea parties are not a knee-jerk reaction, they are a grass roots movement by a populous too smart to believe one can spend or borrow his way out of debt.

Ryan C said “So by all means copy paste the notice you claim the IRS made. ”
Okay – here: ” In 2009 and 2010, the Making Work Pay provision of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act will provide a refundable tax credit of up to $400 for working individuals and up to $800 for married taxpayers filing joint returns.
This tax credit will be calculated at a rate of 6.2 percent of earned income and will phase out for taxpayers with modified adjusted gross income in excess of $75,000, or $150,000 for married couples filing jointly.
For people who receive a paycheck and are subject to withholding, the credit will typically be handled by their employers through automated withholding changes in early spring. These changes may result in an increase in take-home pay. The amount of the credit will be computed on the employee’s 2009 income tax return filed in 2010. Taxpayers who do not have taxes withheld by an employer during the year can also claim the credit on their 2009 tax return.”
Now let me explain it to you: There will be a line on the 2009 (and 2010) Form 1040 (whichever version you use)to take the credit. Because you are being given it through an adjustment to your payroll withholding, your credit should equal the additional amount not withheld from your check. The tax rate & tables do not change. You have to claim the credit or according to your 1040, you will owe it back. What they are counting on, is that people either will forget to take the credit or will not understand that they have to.

Hmmmmm . . . Did I hear right that Obama gave some 6.5 per-cent to various charities? As a professed Christian I wonder how much he tithes?

Posted by: dan | Apr 15, 2009 5:41:44 PM
“Religion does NOT control this country and it NEVER will.” Well, Dan, I’m not so sure.
Unfortunately, Religious Right groups and their allies insist that the United States was designed to be officially Christian and that our laws should enforce the doctrines of (their version of) Christianity.
The Religious Right made serious inroads into government policy over the past 8 years – in one small example, our nation spent $1 Billion on failed “abstinence only” education programs.
And extremist talk shows have been promoting Religious Right views for decades, including the notion that income tax as “idolatry,” property tax “theft” and inheritance taxes are simply not allowed in the Bible. It is their intent to make our country a Christian Nation. They work to dismantle the public school system, and blame the news media for driving Christianity from American life and creating a “socialist” state.
If you are a Libertarian, watch out for the goals of those you side with.

It seems like the term ‘pork’ requires some kind of consensus. Debatable potentially wasteful spending could be called ‘porkish’.

“I am a financial analyst & my co-workers & I went over this with a fine-tooth comb.”
You and several of your coworkers had to go over it with a fine tooth comb?
Its a 1 page statement that is clear as day.

“If the Obama supporters want his presidency to be a success and for the economy to recover (but I repeat myself), they would beg him to stop this insane spending and cut taxes across the board, or else and pray for a Republican Congress in ’10.”
Is this right out of the latest proposal for the Republican ethereal budget that has no numbers in it?

It seemed more like a how-to pamphlet on the benefits of Republican economic philosophy.

Posted by: Ryan C | Apr 15, 2009 8:06:17 PM
“I think Ron Paul nutters are my favorite kind. They operate via some alternative history.”
Hahahaha and by supporting the Conservative “do nothing” tax agenda, they snuggle up to Evangelicals intent on strangling our schools and government oversight while taking away our Constitutional freedom of separation of church and state.
Alternative reality.

Well Rick Perry just killed his chances at the GOP nomination come 2012.
From the Houston Chron blog
Speaking with reporters after a tea party rally in Austin today, Gov. Rick Perry said Texas can leave the union if it wants to.
“Texas is a unique place. When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that,” Perry said. “My hope is that America and Washington in particular pays attention. We’ve got a great union. There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, who knows what may come of that.”
And shockingly like most right wingers he doesn’t know his history.
Just FYI, on Perry’s 1845 statement, Texas came into the union with the ability to divide into five states, not withdraw. After seceding during the Civil War, Texas was allowed to re-enter the union after ratifying the 13th Amendment. The 13th Amendment banned slavery in the United States and any territory subject to its jurisdiction.
UPDATED: Texas v White, a U.S. Supreme Court case decided in 1869, said Texas cannot secede.

You want to talk about astroturfing?? Obama made it into the WH with the help of the Astroturf guru himself – Axelrod. Now people realize they were manipulated into supporting someone low on substance, but high on charisma. Geo Clooney would have been a better candidate…at least more experienced.

“We’ve got a great union. There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it.”
He ought to make the trip to Arlington National Cemetery to see what happened the last time someone tried to dissolve this union.

Texas probably has the best chance at success. Here is how it can work. The annexation agreement made when Texas joined the union provided that Texas would be able to divide into 5 states. This would create 8 more conservative Senators.
If Texas were to try to divide and be rebuffed, the US would be in violation of the agreement and Texas should be able to go free.
It is not all that far fetched.

We hear over and over from right-wingers how liberals hate America, and then once the Republicans lose power they talk about leaving the union? Now we find out how much these hypocrites really love their country. They only love it when they’re the ones running it!

The president also pledged to “simplify a monstrous tax code that is far too complicated for most Americans to understand, but just complicated enough for the insiders who know how to game the system.”
I guess the President was talking
about his Cabinet, especially
Treasury Secretary Geithner!
Yes they really know how to “game the
system and get rewarded for it with
high paying government jobs!

I guess those people are worried about the confiscatory tax rates coming down the pike as part of Obama’s “recovery” program.
I guess these people are worried about the stupendous inflation that’s around the corner, and the massive expansion of government they’re now expected to finance.
Maybe these people were irritated to hear the Vice President goad them into paying higher taxes to be patriotic, when 3/4 of Obama’s cabinet picks turn out to have evaded their own taxes. Or, they could just be questioning why they have to pay for everyone’s free college tuition, healthcare, job training and home, when they worked, saved and covered such expenses for themselves without government help.
Maybe they wonder why they should pay higher taxes after the Bush tax cuts expire when Obama appoints person after person for his cabinet who turns out to have evaded their own taxes. Maybe they question this administration’s motives after it tries to do away with tax deductions for charitable contributions, or tries to make wounded veterans pay for their own healthcare.
Maybe they’re offended by the DHS report impugning anyone who disagrees with this administration as a potential terrorist, yet won’t allow anyone to call the real terrorists what they are: terrorists. Pirates who terrorize shipping are just “common criminals”. But people who think immigration laws should be enforced? Terrorists!
Maybe they wonder why DHS sees vets as a problem because they have paramilitary training, when others like police and first responders who also have such training are unmentioned in the report.
Maybe they foresee the effects of massive borrowing, spending and deficits on the future promise and opportunities of their children and grandchildren. They’re probably sick of hearing proposals like “smart meters” to monitor their own home energy usage, or of having no options but tiny deathtrap “smart” cars to buy and put their children in.
Maybe they’re wondering why the government is so opposed to banks repaying the TARP money, and why the administration’s so wigged out that some states don’t want to take the money.
Probably don’t much like the idea of bailing out mortgages of people banks knew didn’t qualify for loans that some Congressmen pushed lending institutions into, either.
Or, maybe it’s because they’re tired of the classwarfare and wealth redistribution disguised as “reform” coming out of this administration. Or, they could see that the revolutionary changes in the American way of life proposed by this administration are not compatible with America’s traditions, beliefs and founding values. They might even think a country split between a shrinking pool of producer/tax payers, and a burgeoning class of recipients of government largesse won’t be much of a country.
They might even be aggravated because they thought Obama would “govern from the center” and be a “JFK Democrat”. Many of them voted for Obama. Many were Democrats. Joke’s on them.

jordan | Apr 16, 2009 8:23:45 AM
Great post. You nailed it.
I find it interesting that libs are up in arms about Gov Perry intimating (but not overtly stating) that Texas might secede if the DC crowd continues extension of power and influence over states (“it’s treason!”).
If Arnold or Paterson were to suggest that Cal-e-forn-ya or NY might do the same I don’t think there would be many complaints from conservatives…

Lone Star Rules—hello, i agree with so much of what you are saying. i live in Dallas and although i don’t consider myself a lib, a commie, a socialist, a terrorist or a traitor, i voted for and supported President Obama. i know his economic plans are costly. seccession is not an option for me, as i am a citizen of the United States first and foremost and always. i think if Texas did secceed we would have a state income tax. and the governor’s refusing stimulus funds may bring Texas closer to having to have an state income tax. i work for the state and in August (at the end of the fiscal year) we are expecting 25% lay-offs. i am not a senior employee si i am at high risk. if i lose my job i feel there is still hope for me in Texas as far as emplyoment. but predictions (ecnomic indicators) are that in the early fall the financial crisi will hit Texas and hard.
it’s cool that Gov. Perry wants to grandstand and refuse government funds. i know he will begging on bended knee soon (and privately, of course). obviously he has political ambitions and he is tapping in to popular disappointment we all share.
i hope Texas doesn’t ever even consider seceeding. i would hate to move and even more i would hate a civil war as i doubt we could win.
all of this is just photo-ops and grandstanding. this is not Texas Pride as i know it, it is the Texas Pride the cheap beer. it does not relect Texas well, at all.

Everyday I fathom waking up and listening to OBAMA I never thought I would appreciate PRes Clinton in hindesight. This man is a disaster. He is out for CONTROL which is unconstitutional he is to take care of GOVERNMENT not the private sector. where are the conservative CEO and bankers go after OBAMA take him to SUPREME court DON”T BE SCARED let him know that HE has no BUSINESS.. in BUSINESS>

correction; a lot of MY taxes

sherry—conservative CEOs and bankers are what brought this nation down. maybe you should be angry with their selfish policies which are ruining our nation. if it were not for them the president wouldn’t have to save the economy from the real criminals who belong in court.

Did Robert Gibbs explain how people that don’t pay income tax get a tax cut or why we have to borrow $2 Trillion this year to give “tax cuts”? I didn’t think so. Gibbs make Scott McClellan look like a rhetorical genius.

jordan | Apr 16, 2009 8:20:15 AM
absolutely nails it. Thanks, Jordan

“STOP the liberal democrats that control both the House and Senate from continueing to do all the above by voting them OUT OF OFFICE in 2010″
ROFLMAO!
Because when the Republicans were in office they were fiscal conservatives and watchdogs against financial impropriety….errr….ummm….yeah that’s the ticket!

Obama named the dog after himself…Bo? BO? How self centered is that? Obama has some real mental problems.

In his Gettysburg address, President Lincoln said, “that Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth. That government President Lincoln talked about may not have perished, but it sure has gone into hiding. It has become a Government of the politicians, by the politicians, for the politicians. It doesn’t matter which side you prefer. Both Democrats and Republicans are the same when it comes to candidates for elected offices. They have four goals in common: 1. Get elected. 2. Make the other look party bad. 3. Attain riches from the wealthy lobbyists. 4. Get re-elected. If during the course of the above, they do anything beneficial for the public or the country, it is purely coincidental or accidental … which ever you prefer. The politicians are elected to serve the public and the nation, but they have become a group of self serving, greedy, power hungry, thieves. Yes thieves, because they misappropriate our tax money, and they don’t earn their salary. Even when they are convicted of crimes and sent to prison, they still receive pensions. Why? They also squander our Social Security contributions and refuse to fix the problems for fear that the other party might get the credit. The politicians have their own fat retirement plan and therefore have no interest in fixing Social Security. The offices of Senator and House Representative were never meant to be life long nor even career long positions. Why do we allow them to spend their whole life in a position that was never intended to be for life. I could go on-and-on, but you know what I’m getting at. The way to prevent this abuse of power is to set term limits. Term limits for both the Senate and House of Representatives. It’s time to start a national movement for term limits. The office of President is limited to two terms. So should be the office of Senate and House of Representative be limited to two terms. This may not completely eliminate the abuses, but it’s a start in the right direction.

Now let me explain it to you: There will be a line on the 2009 (and 2010) Form 1040 (whichever version you use)to take the credit. Because you are being given it through an adjustment to your payroll withholding, your credit should equal the additional amount not withheld from your check. The tax rate & tables do not change. You have to claim the credit or according to your 1040, you will owe it back. What they are counting on, is that people either will forget to take the credit or will not understand that they have to.