President Obama to Face Opposition from Gun Lobby, Possibly Democrats, to Ratify Treaty on Firearms Trafficking

If we had closed our borders (both ways) years ago, we could have prevented all these issues regarding illegals, drugs and guns. We still don’t have the guts to do the job right.

This shows how insane Republicans have become. They will not even support a measure that aims to curb the illegal smuggling of guns to foreign countries. The Republican party has become the biggest disease that afflicts the United States. They should all be shipped to the Amazon because that’s where they belong. Uncivilized animals.

Obamacrat for Palin wrote:
“I used to support President Barack Obama, but Barack Obama isn’t interested in solving our nation’s problems. He is only interested in using our nation’s problems as a fear …”
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This comment is so fake!

I don’t understand gun enthusiasts who shout down any reasonable effort to make our nation and now Mexico safer. How would trying to limit gun smuggling into Mexico, hurt any gun owner in the U.S.? Especially when thousands are dying in the drug wars down there, innocent civilians, courageous police officers and honest judges.
Will you feel safer if Mexico’s drug wars breaks down their government’s control and millions of Mexican refugees flood into our country seeking asylum from the violence?
This nonsense objection is just like the stupid complaining they did about the Brady Bill. In that case the law demanded a 5 day background check before anyone bought a handgun. Yes, the ‘support guns for everyone’ crowd found something wrong with checking the background of a gun purchaser just in case he was crazy or a criminal. Somehow this bill would affect them, they might have to wait a whole 5 days before they bought a new gun to add to their arsenal.
Just like they are complaining of proposed legislation to close the gun show loophole in some states. How can anyone in their right mind think it is a good idea for anyone to be able to go to a gun show and buy guns without any background check?
Commonsense is needed when the subject is something dangerous to society. We have limits on who can drive because a car can be used to hurt people. It is no different with guns.

America’s love for guns is a great example of how irrational human beings are. Every study (except of course those payed by the NRA) show a strong correlation between gun ownership and violent crime. Still, people buy more guns to protect themselves from all the other guns, thus contributing more to the problem. Some 10,000 people are murdered with guns every year in the US, an insanely high number compared with other developed countries with stricter gun laws. That’s almost three 9/11′s a year and for what reason? Freedom? When your freedom costs your neighbors life it ain’t freedom anymore. It is anarchy.

Concerned in OH:”How does this help the economy?”
How is that vaguely relevant? Do you think the drug cartels in Mexico are politely going to hold off on wreaking havoc in border towns while they wait for the economy to improve? Perhaps we should hold off on pursuing any terrorists until the economy improves. Or working the Somali pirate issue. We wouldn’t want you to get overloaded and confused now.

Carl in Chicago:”This is the centerpiece (quoting you):
“The treaty makes the unauthorized manufacture and exporting of firearms illegal…”
Your less astute readers deserve to know that unauthorized manufacture and exporting of firearms is CURRENTLY illegal.”
This is a very good point. The treaty is getting other countries to buy into the laws we already have. In that case, it is only to our benefit to sign it and encourage them to live up to our internal standards, accepting lawful gun ownership and responsible quality manufacture.

Please let us register all guns and register all gun owners….and then send that information to the often corrupt government, police, and military officials in Mexico! You think some more stolen guns might make down to ol’ Mex after that!
ps: drugkingpins don’t buy their guns retail or even steal them from US citizens. They get better deals, plus full auto weapons, by buying from arms dealers, countries, or from the corrupt police and military in Mexico and Central/South America.

For all this talk, I was just wondering if anyone could point me in the direction to buy a fully automatic AK-47 or M4 here in the states. Know of any gun dealers that sell them?? Please read this with sarcasm as any truly informed individual would catch my drift.

He has lied about everything right down to his promise to get a shelter dog. There is not one thing real or true about this man –

Travis
re’ “The TEA parties are just the tip of a rebellious ice berg”
this is manufactured hypocrisy by conservatives and republicans…… the proof of this is easy to discern: if these people were so concerned about their issues related to the ‘tea-baggers’ tax & spending concerns, why weren’t they out when Bush was president, and the republicans massively increased the deficit?
If they were so concerned about economics, why weren’t they taking to the streets last fall
when Bush was president and the ‘bailout’ was first taking shape?
Like everything else Conservative/Republican,
it’s a meaningless slogan with no substance or
plan to actually do anything to address the problem, just make stuff up, blame someone, bring up god, abortion and immigration and hope that everyone believes you and doesn’t ask any follow up questions.

Why should my rights be violated for the Mexicans??
They bring the mooching illegal selves across our border and demand help and $$$$
They are the problem, and there is no way in hell we need to have a treaty unless it includes laws that allows instant arrest and deportation for anyone sneaking into America.

Lydia,
Name one single gun-control law that has made anyone safer. For that matter, just name one single gun-control law that has kept a single criminal from obtaining a firearm.
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” — Jefferson’s “Commonplace Book,” 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
This is as true today as it was in 1764 when Cesare Beccaria penned those words. they were still true when Thomas Jefferson referenced them in his “Commonplace Book”.
Why do we need any more treaties or gun-control laws when we don’t (because we cannot) enforce the ones on the books? The only thing gun-control laws accoomplish is to disarm law-abiding citizens leaving them at the mercy of the criminals and/or tyrants.
Guns are not the problem. Criminals are. Instead of more gun-control, we should be concentrating on criminal control.

Yeah, I am a very pro-2A liberal Dem (there are a lot more of us than you might think). AWB, “gunshow loophole”, “smart guns,” all obvious infringements.
But I am having a hard time seeing the big deal about this one. Don’t we already license the manufacture and export of arms? Don’t we already share information? Mexico gives the ATF guns, and we tell them where they came from.
My mind is open on this one, but I just don’t see the down side here.

As an american i must confess: the problem with criminals in the US can be greatly helped by a proper education system (US education is worst in the developed world). There is also nothing liberating about owning a gun, you have more responsibility. If your enemy doesnt own a gun, you wont need one to defend yourself from them. And as Eistein once said: there is nothing as harmful to a government as a law that cannot be enfored -> im talking about anti drug laws, the only way they can get any control is through legalization. i dont know if im right, but it seems more logical,or it could be a first step, but we should remain open minded: we could always update a 200 year old document with which we govern ourselves. Lets be a good neighbour to mexico and help them instead of always trying to cut them off, problems will keep coming back to us until they are solved.

Why is America at fault for items smuggled into Mexico? If we are then are they at fault for items smuggled into America? Why are the Mexican boarder police not protecting their boarder from in bound illegal products? It would appear that the Mexican boarder authorities are making money by the two way traffic at the boarder and if they are not interested in stopping the illegal traffic then it makes it harder for our boarder police to do so. If anyone thinks the Mexican police are not in on this smuggling, just look how many of them have been arrested for corruption? If the chief of police in one area is taking money, most of the officers on his force are also. We can not protect the boarder for both countries.
I think the percent of firearms ID as American is not correct, it is more like 90% of the weapons taken in Mexico to not come from here.

FIRECONGRESS
get the bums out in 2010

From the ACLU FAQ page:
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ACLU POSITION
“Given the [U.S. Constitution's] reference to “a well regulated Militia” and “the security of a free State,” the ACLU has long taken the position that the Second Amendment protects a collective right rather than an individual right. For seven decades, the Supreme Court’s 1939 decision in United States v. Miller was widely understood to have endorsed that view.”
“The Supreme Court has now ruled otherwise. In striking down Washington D.C.’s handgun ban by a 5-4 vote, the Supreme Court’s 2008 decision in D.C. v. Heller held for the first time that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to keep and bear arms, whether or not associated with a state militia.”
“The ACLU disagrees with the Supreme Court’s conclusion about the nature of the right protected by the Second Amendment. We do not, however, take a position on gun control itself. In our view, neither the possession of guns nor the regulation of guns raises a civil liberties issue.”
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The HR45 bill, at
prescribes draconian licensing measures surpassing what it takes to receive a driver’s license.
Enough is enough!
It’s time to cease and desist from assaulting our Civil Liberties!
Gun ownership is NOT to be relegated to a mere privilege to be licensed out by the Federal Government; it is a CONSTITUTIONALLY-MANDATED LIBERTY, a FACT which has been UPHELD by the U.S. Supreme Court’s 2008 decision in “D.C. v. Heller!
Contact your congressional representatives and make your voice heard!

My apologies, i meant “as the death toll rises around the World.”