President Obama “Furious” to Hear of Plane Incident

Caldera = sacrificial lamb
If Obama didn’t know, he shold have so someone is inept- I’m sure Rahm knows- it’s his job to know everything WH related. If Obama did know, he’s a cruel moron for letting it go on for a stupid photo op.
YES WE CAN scare the cr@p out of New Yorkers.

“If Obama didn’t know, he shold have so someone is inept”
Obama should know about a planned photo op for a plane?
The fake outrage by right wingers gets more transparent with each passing day.

It would appear Commander-in-Chief is unable to manage Air Force One… Ridiculous.
It will be interesting to see if these photos are ever used to promote the White House.
BTW – Why are tax dollars being spent in the interest of “photo ops”?
BTW2 – Who is in charge at the White House?

call him DOTUS…that would be Doofus of the United States…..How long can this guy claim “wasn’t me” before people give up defending him….I mean cmon….this is getting silly! If Bush had done his the all the crazies would be up in arms….now they are brain washed and just say “wasn’t him”…..just think 3yrs and 250 60 days left….100 days=100 nutty thing have happened….and the left keeps moving forward, asking each other “i wonder whats through the next gate, do you know what that buzzing sound is?” Never to know they voted to be led to the socialist slaughter.

The Obama administration/media are at a loss when they can’t blame Bush for Obama’s mistakes.
Don’t worry the Bush witch hunt will last at least a year.

“Obama should know about a planned photo op for a plane?”
An activity that involves military planes and Air Force One? Yeah, he should know about it. An exercise in a no-fly zone over the site of the terrorist attacks? Yeah, he should know about it.
“The fake outrage by right wingers gets more transparent with each passing day.”
The ever-increasing denial by the left gets more transparent every minute with this administration.
“Caldera = sacrificial lamb” *of the day*.
Fixed it for you. Of course, watching the Dems throw the RINO Three under the bus to try and spin the pandemic money kerfuffle (remember, Rahm says let no crisis go unused), we might require a new term: “Sacrifical lamb of the Hour” – or SLOTH.
I’m taking AJ to the polls and voting against every incumbent in 2010.
- AJs Daddie

No Rage from the righ there, just a sad dark comedy, about the demise of the United States at the hands of “the One”….anybody on the left think maybe “theOne” means the one that destroyed the United States.

“I realize our schools aren’t what they used to be, but I guess I assumed that most children knew what Air Force One is.”
Actually I would bet most school children would not know that Air Force One is only that call sign while the President is aboard.
After all you apparently didn’t.
But perhaps you can explain why the President should know about a photo op using his backup plane?

Yet another example of the ego-centric, arrogant, Obama administration. If it didn’t bother them it did not matter.
Now Obama can feign outrage.
Obama is such an idiot he either did not know, or did not care what was happening with Air Force One.
I can understand why people have such low expectations of Obama, and therefore don’t hold him accountable.
After all, he cannot even focus on one single speech without prompting.
He simply lacks awareness of that that does not directly impact him.
Wrapped in a messiah like self image that he has, it is all that matters.

Gibbs:
Plane?
What plane?
Who are you going to believe–Obama or your lying eyes?
I don’t know why the WH admitted it.
If supporters believe there wasn’t a bow, they will believe there wasn’t a plane.
They trust Obama, not their eyes or common sense.

Do you think that what Louis Caldera told the press was completely true. I surely don’t think so at all.
Last week, I approved a mission over New York,” Louis Caldera, director of the White House military office. In my mind the only person to approve a mission like this should be the current sitting President.
Now we, the American public, expect some kind of reason to have a mission over New York City.

Someone did something stupid, it is clear. But before we start hurling accusations in ANY direction, let’s get some more information. We are told the president was furious, and rightly so. But we have not been told why the planes were sent on this mission. Who asked for the trip to take place? For what purpose? Once that information has been released from this tranparency-promising WH, then we can better assess the situation.

“I can understand why people have such low expectations of Obama,”
These summary evaluations of Obama’s presidency provide a more detailed picture of public reaction to the new president than Gallup’s standard job approval rating. Gallup Poll Daily tracking from April 20-22 finds 65% of Americans saying they “approve” of the job Obama is doing as president; 29% disapprove. Thus, on both measures, Americans’ general assessment is quite positive, by a better than 2-to-1 margin.
The new poll also finds that Americans generally got what they expected in the Obama presidency. More than 6 in 10 — 62% — say Obama has thus far done about as they expected as president, overall. Among the rest, more indicate he has exceeded their expectations than fallen short, 24% vs. 13%.

People people….CNN just announced that George Bush ordered this fly over before he left office. LMAO…………Get him left get him

Tell us, Obamaites, why is it that Obama’s White House was the FIRST White House to use the plane that serves as Air Force One and two F-16′s to create some photos?
Why, lefties, why?
Can’t answer that question, in this Age of perfect governance and wisdom from the genius Obama.
No Bush to blame here, lefties.
Why did Obama’s White House make it a priority, in the FIRST 100 DAYS, to get PR photographs of Air Force One and the Statue of Liberty/NYC skyline?
Why, lefties, why would the great Messiah betray your beliefs of eco-awareness (how much fuel did those three planes use???) and sensitivity to causing undue fears of terrorism (like you blamed Bush for doing, for years? )))
Sad.

Okay – on the one hand, there was obviously a conflict between some security protocol for presidential planes and the fact that there was a reaction that, in hindsight, should have been obvious. They screwed up, they admitted it.
On the other hand, there is something fascinating about the sudden concern about a president wasting money with photo-ops, after eight years of George W. Bush and the constant campaign from an administration that couldn’t walk and chew gum (Well, Segway and eat a pretzel. Okay, Segway *or* eat a pretzel.) at the same time.
Obama’s first 100 days have juggled a dozen crises, and this is arguably the worst screw-up. I can live with it.

tell me nato, why did obama need these photos as such a priority, tying up his plane and two f-16′s for hours over NYC for photos – something no president has ever done before, let alone in the First Hundred Days.
Way to prioritize.
Where’s the outrage at the greenhouse gas emissions?
Isn’t this the Obama that cried about emissions and yoking the whole economy with his carbon tax last week?
Can we say hypocrisy?

“Excuse me, aren’t you the guys that held Bush accountable for absolutely everything including the weather”
The weather?
Global warming maybe…
So MNM as penance for your not holding Bush accountable for anything, you are going to hold Obama accountable for anything that happens regardless of his involvement?
Well that makes sense….if one is insane.

Disclosure upfront: Conservative here.
I’ve been aboard Air Force One (while it was on the ground). It’s an amazing aircraft! The cost to fly that plane is huge. To use it (and yes, I know it’s not called AFO unless POTUS is on board) for a photo-op is ridiculous. If this was a training exercise, there would be no need to use one of the two planes that are equipped to fly as AFO…just deploy a cheaper to operate 747. In short–training mission, my butt. It was a photo-op all the way.
I believe Pres. Obama did not know it was being used today. The President does not concern himself with that type of detail, nor should he. That’s why there’s a WH Military Office and all sorts of other staff charged with monitoring deployment of those two special planes.
What is apparent is the incompetence and insensitivity of whoever dreamed up this stunt and whoever authorized it. That may be two different people, since Caldera apologized for approving the “mission”–no word that it was his idea in the first place.
And for that incompetence and insensitivity, Pres. Obama should send Caldera and the originator of the idea packing, immediately. He might also consider an apology to the citizens who were scared out of their wits…(being “furious” isn’t enough).

It’s interesting how the Defenders of Obama circle the wagons to point out the technicality of “it’s not Air Force One” because The One is not on board. The planes that belong to the fleet are a symbol of the President (with or without The One). Which is why they were commissioned for this photo op.
Bone-headed move and bone-headed execution by a bone-headed administration.

“Its his backup plane.”
So? It’s just as able to become AF1 as the other one. In any case, if you think either plane can be used in a “photo op” without approval from the White House, then I think you might want to think again.
Now, if you’re saying that it was all Caldera’s fault and that the President had no clue what was going on, then I can perhaps believe that, although I have to believe the constant litany of “He didn’t know, He didn’t know!” is starting to wear thin even on you.
“There is no “no-fly zone” in New York City.”
I was imprecise in my wording, forgetting that the last 100 days has been about little more than twisting words.
Let’s be clear: there is no good reason to fly one of the Presidential planes in a non-traditional flight plan over NYC, much less without clearly and completely warning the public. Considering how much time this administration spends in front of the TV cameras, it’s simply unconscionable that nobody happened to mention it.
But that’s okay. In the brave new world order, common sense has no place.

In addition to everything else, what was the carbon footprint of this photo op?

“Ryan Ryan Ryan……no rage here….Obama and HIS staff goofed the sooner you learn to call it like it is the sooner you will get it.”
I called the plan boneheaded but to claim that Obama approved of this is ridiculous.

Why couldnt the obamaZobies at the white house have cleared it for the flight…anounced it to newyork….and made it a big fun photo-op for every one???? And the 1st person who says because terrorist could have blown it up, I say the LEFT says the are no Terrorist…so it should have been no prob!

silky,
Great minds and all that jazz

Obama couldn’t have known about his plane being used in NYC, but Bush was supposed to know exactly what date & time the terrorists were going to carry out their mission? Hypocrisy much?

“something no president has ever done before,”
This and the word arrogant seem to be used in every right wing meme regardless of its rightful application.

LOL…
MISTAKE NUMBER 101..
LOL…………

Who cares about this plane incident? If anything this just proves what cowards Americans are.

Heheh… I’m a liar because I used the term “no-fly zone” to describe an area where planes are not supposed to fly. Okay. Typical Leftist – argue about the details, miss the point.
Fine, I’ll accept the fact that I used the wrong term. If you want to continue to cling to the word lie, then fine. But it doesn’t change the central fact.
Fact: people were scared, panicking, running out of buildings.
Question: if one person is injured because of this stunt, who is ultimately responsible? Is it Caldera, or is it the President?
I’m just trying to gauge exactly where the buck stops in your world.
- AJs Daddie

Global warming maybe…
So MNM as penance for your not holding Bush accountable for anything, you are going to hold Obama accountable for anything that happens regardless of his involvement?
Well that makes sense….if one is insane.
Posted by: Ryan C | Apr 27, 2009 6:40:39 PM
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OH my god. SO you think that if indeed climate change exists that it only began with the Bush administration.
You believe that climate change alarmist Gore, who did absolutely nothing to prevent this when he was VP, had no reason to act because it is a brand new phenomenon created by Bush, allowing Gore to whine and complain for 8 years.
I do think Obama is accountable for the actions of his administration. He is accountable for this, just as you would have held Bush accountable.
If Bush were in office he would not have been stupid enough to do this without giving NYC people a heads up.

Tapper – the official excuse is out there now – White House was “updating the file photo” of Air Force One near Liberty.
Great use of resources there Obama!!!!!!
Way to cap the first 100 days by simulating a terrorist attack on NYC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASHINGTON – An administration official says a presidential Boeing 747 and a fighter jet flew low near ground zero in New York City Monday because the White House Military Office wanted to update its file photo of the president’s plane near the Statue of Liberty.
This official said the White House Military Office told the Federal Aviation Administration that it periodically updates file photos of Air Force One near national landmarks, like the statute in New York harbor and the Grand Canyon.

“He is accountable for this, just as you would have held Bush accountable.”
With everything on the plate today, I would absolutely not hold Bush accountable.

Looks like NYC got a little taste of what the sane, non-KoolAide drinking Americas attending all those Tea Parties have noticed about Barry Obama.
Looks like that attendance for the July 4th versions just went over 2 million.
Anybody else need details for the nearest location??

“Heheh… I’m a liar because I used the term “no-fly zone” to describe an area where planes are not supposed to fly.”
Planes fly up and down the Hudson all day. Sometimes they even land in the Hudson.

Who asked for this photo op and why? I want to see the pictures. Who was on the plane and who gave the fighters the order to be along and why? Too many questions for and no answers.

“If Bush were in office he would not have been stupid enough to do this without giving NYC people a heads up.”
No, he was stupid enough not to give ANYONE in NYC a heads up when NYC was designated a target by Bin Laden and activity consistent with hijackings was discovered.

Yes LogicalUS!
July 4th–I’ll be there.
We had 1,000 attend our Tea Party in a small coastal town in Morehead City, NC

“And where was this outrage during the previous eight years? ”
Bhahahahhhaa! The standard Daily Kos nutjob has arrived with the Buusssshh statement.
Listen you boob, your messiah just launched a “terrorist” attack on NYC with Air Force One!
I am taking 100-to-1 odds that when Barry’s college transcript finally shows up he will have made worse grades than Bush. Because we damn sure know that Bush, who is believed by leftist as the “stupidest” person to ever breathe, would NEVER HAVE CONSIDERED FLYING A JUMBO JET AT TREETOP LEVEL AROUND NYC!!
Barry Obama is repeatedly showing himself to be an idiot when will the media notice??

This stupid stunt cost the taxpayers over a million dollars for a “photo op”? Where did I see the media demanding to know who and what the photo op was for? Oh,, no where as usual.

Ryans right (NOT), tea parties need more people….so we shoud give some free concerts and beer….no..no wait…Obama already took that one

“Because we damn sure know that Bush, who is believed by leftist as the “stupidest” person to ever breathe, would NEVER HAVE CONSIDERED FLYING A JUMBO JET AT TREETOP LEVEL AROUND NYC”
Naaah Bush rather ignore warnings about terrorist attacks then after those attacks happen invade a country who was not involved in the attacks and then as a coup de grace plan a photo op declaring mission accomplished only 3 months in.

“Naaah Bush rather ignore warnings about terrorist attacks then after those attacks happen invade a country who was not involved in the attacks and then as a coup de grace plan a photo op declaring mission accomplished only 3 months in.”
Talk about stranger than fiction.

“Ryan, even you must wonder about his under grad work from those school he attended, curious to see just how he got into Harvard”
Not really.
Getting into Harvard means he did quite well.
I am a bit more concerned with how he governs vs what he took in undergrad and what grade he got.

“know that Bush, who is believed by leftist as the “stupidest” person to ever breathe, would NEVER HAVE CONSIDERED FLYING A JUMBO JET AT TREETOP LEVEL AROUND NYC!!”
Yeah, he just ignored memos that warned of terrorist attacks, started an illegal war on false information, failed horribly with Katrina, is responsible for the deaths of thousands of soldiers and iraqi civilians. And has never found the man responsible for 9/11, but found a dictator that had nothing to do with anything.
This is why your party is a laughing stock in this country. Any intelligent person knows this was an honest mistake, a stupid one, but not even close to being Obama’s fault. No one was hurt. No one was harmed.
Anti-Obama people.. why? Why are you so bitter about this man who is honestly trying his best? Don’t pull that tea bag crap on me because unless you make over 200,000 dollars a year, you aren’t feeling the pinch. And I hardly doubt any of you are since most people don’t make that much.
Wake up, read the news and actually think for yourselves because your party is going down in flames, and I’m honestly having a lot of fun watching.

Mr. Obama runs on the premise that “Washington is broken”. Little did he know that his administration is cracking slowly.

“Don’t presume to lecture me about 9-11 and the response.”
Naaah I’ll lecture you about your tinfoil idiocy that this photo-op is somehow tied to Obama’s first 100 days.

Obama had another “fake outrage” moment.
Honestly when are people going to wake up?
This was another idiotic mistake by an administration that doesn’t have a clue
what regular people are feeling.
Did you see the pictures of those poor people in NYC? Mistakes like this are unforgivable.

This is proof positive that the Obama administration has forgotten all about 911.
Is it normal to have a civilian in charge of the White House military office? (Caldera’s a civilian, but served in the late 1970′s). He also said officials had taken all the right steps to notify New York and New Jersey authorities about the pending flight. (?)
It’ll be embarrassing for Bloomberg if that’s true, because it would point to a communications breakdown between the WH and his office. He came down pretty hard on the military today.

“Did Bush release his undergrad grades? I don’t think he did.”
Bush, Gore and Kerry had their undergrad grades (or at least GPA) revealed by the media.
They did not release anything.

“It’ll be embarrassing for Bloomberg if that’s true, because it would point to a communications breakdown between the WH and his office. He came down pretty hard on the military today.”
I think Bloomberg himself realized that.
A spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration said the maneuver wasn’t an emergency. Several Port Authority executives, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to an ongoing investigation, said that the agency received a memo from the FAA, but not until sometime Monday morning. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey operates bridges, tunnels and airports in the area.
“Information in this document shall not be released to the public or media,” the memo instructed. “Public affairs posture for this effort is passive.”
Mayor Michael Bloomberg, during a news conference Monday afternoon, said the FAA sent an email to an unnamed City Hall official late Thursday, detailing the publicity event, but asked the person to keep it confidential. The City Hall official, in turn, told New York Police. However, Bloomberg said he didn’t find out about it until Monday morning when the planes were flying through Manhattan airspace and his handheld wireless device was flooded with complaints.
“I’m annoyed – furious is a better word – that I wasn’t told,” Bloomberg said, calling the photo opportunity “ill-considered” and “badly conceived.” He added the federal government’s decision to stage such an event near the World Trade Center “defies good judgment.” He says if he would have known about the decision, he would have worked to get it reversed.
Bloomberg also said he would discipline the City Hall office involved, but declined to identify it.

If Obama doesn’t want to be embarrassed again maybe everything his staff does should go by him first.
The people that made this decision never stopped to think that it might bring up memories of 9/11?
Very hard to believe anyone could be that clueless.

All of you right wingers screaming about this, did you have any problems with the RNC video showing violent images from 9/11?

“Naaah Bush rather ignore warnings about terrorist attacks then after those attacks happen invade a country who was not involved in the attacks and then as a coup de grace plan a photo op declaring mission accomplished only 3 months in.”
‘Talk about stranger than fiction.’
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Yeah. Too bad it’s the truth.
I travel to NYC for business regularly and I was there on 9//11. It was traumatic beyond words, and I didn’t think I would be able to fly again, or walk around the city without suffering panic attacks. But to give in to my fears would be letting the terrorists win, so I summoned up all the stubborn resolve I could muster and refused to think that the sky was falling or terror was around every corner. Eventually it stuck and now I no longer fear planes, crowds, loud noises, etc.

“Not that you will believe this, but go think for yourself and realize that OBAMA HAS SPENT MORE THAN ALL OF THE PRESIDENT BEFORE HIME COMBINED….(he did it in 100 days) that is what worries me.
Is this where you call me racist?”
This is where I ask you how you came to this conclusion thinking for yourself. And either way, where is the support for that accusation?

Posted by: ll | Apr 27, 2009 7:37:36 PM
No – it where I say you really need to stop lying about things you do not know or wouldn’t take the time to learn about them if you did. AIG, Bear Stearns, M/L deal with Bank of American, TARP, first stimulus program – ALL under Bush Administration!!!

Melanie said “The fact that Bush left a $5 Trillon national debt on top of a $5 Trillion dollar debt that took over $20 year to reach doesn’t bother you!!! He basically DOUBLED our national debt in 8 years!!!”
Melanie….Obama has already tripled it…where is your outrage at that?

So Obama didn’t know huh? Well, whats new? There is so much this man doesn’t seem to know. His standard answers for everything seem to be “I didn’t know”, “I’m sorry” or “It’s not my fault, it happened when I was 3 months old” “It’s not my fault, I blame the admin of the last 8 years.” This man is a product of our times. No one wants to take responsibility for anything anymore. Oh wait, he’ll take responsibility for any victory in Iraq and for bringing our troops home which by the way Bush planned before he left office.

lol. barry shouldnt yell at ‘prompter totus. tele had to show big boy who really runs the show. flying airplanes less than 1000 ft, even bush’s not that dumb. oh barry, you so funny. let totus do his thang.

“So cool it on the “I know because I know someone crap.”"
I don’t just know people. I was there. I have no patience for morons trying to go high and mighty on the 9/11 thing all the while demonstrating a gross detachment from any kind of real connection to the event and in this case a flat-out disrespectfulness of the gravity. Saying that Obama was launching a terrorist attack on New York with this? Sorry…that’s grounds for a telling off.
Of course, I’m not the only one who was in NY on 9/11. But you’ll find that most people willing to talk about it share in the low threshold for bs position. For the record, I lost three friends, nearly my roommate, all at WTC, and another from suicide a couple years later. I’m from DC, used to live less than a mile from the Pentagon, my father is buried not a mile from the Pentagon, and I had an ex-gf on a sales call in the Pentagon at the time. I also used to ski about 20 miles from the crash site of flight 93. That attack was a direct hit on where I live and where I’m from.

There it is- the theme for the entire Obama term:
“It’s not my fault”
What a jerk.

Melanie
What new “green technologies” will we have?
Please be specific.
Thanks

Melanie….Bush Doubled the money Clinton spent on education…what did that get us??

“The fact that Bush left a $5 Trillon national debt on top of a $5 Trillion dollar debt that took over $20 year to reach doesn’t bother you!!! He basically DOUBLED our national debt in 8 years!!!”
So that Obama will double the national debt in 5 years. Yeah, that’ll teach those Republicans. Melanie, you’re something else.

Melanie…..do you really tink the Dems/left have no responsibility in any of this…Carter/clinton….getting people into homes they could not afford…cause it felt good….Bush Did not stop it….but he also was not alone…(Frank/Dodd)..Goverments do these things….be mad at THe GOVERMENT…

So where exactly did this thing fly? The video I’ve seen had the plane over Long Island City and going away from downtown. I haven’t seen any footage of it OVER Manhattan. And I’m sorry…it would take all of two seconds to look up and be able to identify it as the President’s plane. A bad idea, sure…but not worth all this noise.

Melanie…..do oyou have any idea what you are really mad about?

Posted by: drjohn | Apr 27, 2009 8:00:25 PM
Whatever… go back to watching Fixnews – racist Hannity is on…

“you’re really making his point for him.”
What was his point?
That he should be allowed to make things up?

Posted by: Jon | Apr 27, 2009 7:42:08 PM: “I will say that I can see how this could have slipped under the radar for him.”
I agree. Louis Caldera, director of the White House military office, graduated from West Point, had a MBA and a law degree. He was Secretary of the Army under Clinton, so he came with a decent resume into the Director of White House Military Office.
People who work in the White House are expected to be experienced grown-ups who don’t have to run every small project by the Oval Office for permission. Caldera’s bonehead judgment just made the President’s job more difficult. He should resign.

So melanie…how do you find time to read everything on KOS everyday?

So melanie…how do you find time to read everything on KOS everyday?
Posted by: as | Apr 27, 2009 8:12:08 PM
Don’t read extreme left or right blogs… You do it seems…

What an absolute outrage! What were they thinking? The public didn’t need any further trauma and our President is calling for fiscal discipline. I guess his staff didn’t get that memo. Amazing, absolutely amazing at the lack of sensitivity exhibited not only to the NY area but to the people scraping by in this recession to see such a blatant waste of dollars.
Perhaps somebody should send the White House a copy of Photoshop. They could have done the picture in mere minutes at a cost of pennies instead of the half million or so that this idiotic stunt cost.

his point was that you always deflect. He asked questions and instead of answering you ranted about something else. you in a word were deflecting. Aj’s daddie asked you where the buck stops with you. If not at obama then who?

Just so everyone is clear…NY has airports w/ standard flight paths. When a jumbo jet starts doing donuts ON the manhattan skyline followed directly by a fighter jet…that’s cause for mass panicPERIOD btw if we’re assigning due blame lets go w/ the fall guy Louis Caldera, a Democrat who also served under Clinton. Gotta love the niavete of this entire administration. BUT NO LETS HAVE FREE MONEY AND WORLD PEACE!!!2012 bring it on!:)

“Just so everyone is clear…NY has airports w/ standard flight paths. When a jumbo jet starts doing donuts ON the manhattan skyline followed directly by a fighter jet”
Is that true? None of the video that I’ve seen had the plane directly over Manhattan. All over what was either Long Island City and Newark.

I have said this not a good idea…what more do you want from me? It’s not a good idea, but it’s also not that big a deal and I don’t hold Obama accountable for anything close to substantial on this. But as has been said over and over today…he’s got some other things on his plate.

President Obama’s performance as Commander in Chief has been awesome and very impressive but he is not God nor is he clairvoyant. He cannot be expected to know everything and be everywhere all the time. One of his staff made a mistake and owned up to it. Get over it.

Really, who is in charge of the Whitehouse? I know it’s not Obama but who is it?

And knowing a little bit about Rahm’s reputation, somebody might have lost a finger or two over this.

Whew! There are some cranky people today from the post on this Blog. Here’s what has so many of you befuddled:
It’s called….. responsibility.
I know it’s been a long while since we’ve seen that because we’ve had to know the definition of “is” and then we’ve had to know the definition of “torture” and so on and so on.
Here you have an administration who is accountable for their actions and you don’t know what to do.
Someone screwed up and someone took responsibility and apologized.
Now that is change you can believe in.

It is SHOCKING that someone would not think that flying a low level plane would cause a panic. It is hard to understand what qualifications Obama looks for in his staff.
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1. They informed the NY & NJ police agencies and the Mayor’s office. So did the FAA.
2. It was stupid for someone not to inform the public.

Also from that CBS/NYT poll
“And even more Americans – 71 percent – think the use of waterboarding and other aggressive interrogation techniques constitutes torture.”

>>Question: if one person is injured because of this stunt, who is ultimately responsible? Is it Caldera, or is it the President?
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>>Bloomberg’s deputy who was informed of the mission/photo op, but failed to inform anyone else.
Hopey/Changey’s group ordered them NOT TO TELL THE PUBLIC.
Wouldn’t have mattered even if Bloomberg knew, would it?
Hopey/Changey owns this lock, stock and barrel.

This might be a good time to take “Distraction Dog” for a long walk though the yard. I little positive photo op to take people’s minds off of all the blunders might do a little good. If all else fails just annouce that the girls are getting a “pony”.

“It is clear that you are a professional poster…there is nothing you can write that will make me think otherwise”
Well thanks for the compliment in regards to the professional nature of my postings but alas I do not get paid for such.
Though if people want to find out about right wing astroturfing, they can google I ghost wrote letters to the editor for the mccain campaign.

I think that the administration is trying to instill as much fear in people as they can -
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It reminds Fascist Hyena and dr.john of the good ole days…

Day in, day out, gaffe here, gaffe there. It just seems that it is never ending with Obama. I do have to admit that my favorite is the latest spat with the teleprompter. It was hilarious when the telepromter got ahead of Obama and he was absolutely clueless in what to say. What a phoney!

Are you serious? Where in this article does it have Obama laying blame? Sounds to me like Caldera owned up on his own, which is more than the Bush administration has done amid allegations of suborning and encouraging torture and being in charge when banks started loaning money to anyone with a pulse. And now Republicans are trying to blame Obama for the current financial crisis? Please. It’s like none of you were even here for the past eight years.

This just keeps getting more bizarre every day. This administration and its’ assorted nuts and amateurs are like the freaking keystone kops. The bozo’s are screwing up on an hourly basis. What in the *ell was AF One doing flying a around, burning fuel and polluting the environment? Pffftt!! Idiot president, idiot administration! Gawd, how much longer till we can lose these morons?

The teleprompter told him to get mad. He is channeling George Soros.

Is that the best you whiners have with regards to a flyover by one F-16 and a clearly marked Air Force 1 plane?
Hee, hee………You cynics continue to pull your hair out while chanting to your Ouiji boards HOPING for this president to slip.
NOTE TO BRAIN: You’ll be needing skin grafts after 8 years of Presidential precision.

If Bush were still in office, Caldera
would be promoted for this.
I don’t believe O had any knowledge of this.
I believe we will see heads rolling for
this on tomorrows news.

GOOD one – Scare the Cr@p out of New Yorkers.
This is ridiculous for someone to allow this and whoever had the power to do it is a %&^%&. seriously…
I would sue them

Many people had to be involved in this flyover. It defies common sense to believe no one said “hey this might scare people in NY”.
I don’t think the Obama administration cares. They say and do things and don’t seem to care if it upsets people.
They seem to think they are immune to
any kind of lasting recriminations.
We can thank the media and supporters that excuse Obama for virtually any idiotic and harmful mistakes he makes.
This was a terrible decision that hurt a lot of people just for a stupid photo op.

How about you American forget about small stuff like this and focus on the real issues, Obamas refusal to prosecute the past administration for WAR CRIMES!.
Or the fact that even though he said that gitmo is being shut down, he still supports the interrogation methods and they are still authorised to use “Advanced Interrogation” techniques.
Or how about the fact that he is yet to and has made no mention of restoring habbus corpus???
The world is going to hell in a hand basket at the hands of a very few men and your worried about a plane flying low!!!

Obama has matured in 100 days.
He’s gone from “I screwed up” to feigning outrage.
Maybe he will actually get in touch with regular people one day.
No excuse for what the WH put NYC through today.

Bloomberg called it poor judgement.
And a photo op at taxpayers expense.
That describes the Obama administration perfectly.

Let’s see if Obama takes responsibility for his own aircraft.

There should be a flood of lawsuits.
It was terribly wrong.
How anyone could think this was a good idea is beyond reason.

naturally that Obama would fake outrage and then order that the military take the fall

Obama better release the torture pictures tomorrow.
This flyover was a major blunder and Distraction Dog won’t work this time.
Not even Michelle in a new outfit will be a good distraction.

He don’t know nuthin about nuthin, right?
LMAO Sure.
He promised transparency, and we certainly got that! I can certainly see right through it.
*still laughing*

Obama is furious.
What else do you people want?

Sorry Schumer–blaming the FAA doesn’t cut it.

What is this? Conservative Obama-bashing fest? Chill out, do you really think he would do this on purpose?
Sheesh…so many pointing fingers, all convoluted….

Whenever something goes wrong Obama pretends like he never had anything to do with it.But let some small economic good news come out and there he is trying to take all the credit.

rather conservative, still bitter crowd here…

What happened to all the concern about the global warming hoax?How much carbon got dumped into the air to fly an empty 747 back and forth to NYC.

Look, more mountain out of mole-hillers from the Bananna Republicans!
No one died people. Yes, it was stupid…but this is not Torturing and Murdering Civilians (Bush), Lying about reasons for war(Cheney), Denying rights for gay people while being gay yourself (About 20 Republicans I can name), Decrying people underpaying their taxes (which is a problem) while helping corporations steal BILLIONS (a bigger problem)
You guys are so desperate for an issue where you do not look like total fools you do and say anything…which just makes you look more foolish.

Robert:
Hope, change and unity convinced me just about as much as compassionate conservative convinced you. You will get the same treatment that you gave Bush for 8 years. You want unity–prove it–admit your leader is not keeping his promises and has made some terrible mistakes. You can’t hold Bush responsible for the buck stopping at his desk and not do the same for your leader.

AJs Daddy:” Even if it is decided that the President is entirely blameless and that Caldera acted entirely on his own, it still begs the question: why is someone with so little touch with reality given that much authority?”
That much authority? How much authority do you think it takes to file a legal flight path with the FAA?

I wouldn’t dare want Mr. Pearls gruesome, barbaric death at the hands of the heartless, selfish, evil and ruthless maniacs that done this….neither would I want my President to use the same tactics as them, and if we do then, what do that say about us! America do not torture, or violates anyone’s Human Rights! And how long do you think that other countries will sit back and take our criticism of human rights violations in their countries, while commiting that act in our own. How will our citizens manage if they were stopped, jailed and tortured in other countries. It is truly sad that morals, principles and values do not count in this country. Just listen and read these comments.

Scaring terrorist= torture
Scaring New Yorkers= photo op
Obama’s twisted logic.

Ronaldus:”But it’s O.K. for him to fly an empty 747 around to take pictures of.Obama thy name is hypocrisy.”
Are you saying that Obama should personally order the Air Force to stand down it’s pilot training hours and allow their flight status to atrophy? Simple question, yes or no?
There is plenty to criticize the administration on this one. You don’t need to make up transparently vacuous things to whine about – it just makes your whole argument look petty.

Well, is the white house official going crazy or doing for money for photo op. Obviously people get scare when they see fighter jet and air force one together. OMG… the official should have been sacked over this incident… Hail Obama…

this president in training is having a great day with scaring new yorkers and the telepromter failure all while he was playing golf today with tiger.

Ronaldus:”Massive carbon emissions for me,but not for thee.Typical liberal thinking.”
Can you cite a “typical liberal” demanding that the military cease training exercises in order to reduce carbon emissions?

there are a bunch of clowns in the whitehouse. i can not stop laughing hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

“For example, could a Yankees player with a private plane get the same flight plan approved to show the sights to a new girlfriend?”
I was going to quit while I was ahead, but this one is simply irresistible! What possible bearing does this have on anything? Could that same hypothetical Yankees player take the Presidential plane out? No! So your argument is just a textbook example of apologist rhetoric.
I love it! I couldn’t write this stuff better myself.
- AJs Daddie

The incompetence of this administration is unsettling.
Do they ever consult with each other?
Take the time to read the comments of the people in New York that went through this “photo op”.
I hope Obama enjoys the pictures.

This was just plain stupid. Whomever approved this fly by just did not think about the repercusions. Apologies have been made…a day of so of tongue lashings are deserved. After that…calm will restore itself. Lession learned. This has nothing to do with liberals/conservatives, Republican/Democrat ideologies. Get off it.

So, Caldera will be resigning, right? Or will he be fired? Disciplined? Will there be changes made so something like this will not happen again?

Let me get this straight:
The director of something called
the White House Military Office
authorized this without getting the
President’s approval? Don’t think so!
If we are to believe our
commander-of-disbelief anyone in
his administration can order
Air Force One or any plane for that matter to fly over an American city
without presidential approval.
This was a bone-headed, insensitive,
act by an administration and
president who seem to have a tin ear
when it comes to the war on terror and
the families who were victimized
on 9/11.
2012 can’t come soon enough!

Obama is no Harry Truman. That’s for sure. And what is truly amazing is that the press is finding it very difficult to probe this matter. An implement of mass destruction flying low over the skyscrapers in NYC and under the command and control of some lower level White House staffer and the president didn’t know?

jhw539: “I made no comment nor suggestiong regarding the validity of doing it over Manhattan (although as a New Yorker I do regret I wasn’t in the city today to watch a bit).”
Ah!!! Gotcha! You think it was a *GOOD* idea to fly the Presidential plane and a fighter low over Manhattan!
Finally, a clear statement!
- AJs Daddie

I hope they got some sweet pictures!

jcarob:”An implement of mass destruction flying low over the skyscrapers in NYC and under the command and control of some lower level White House staffer and the president didn’t know?”
It was under the direct command and control of the Air Force. The lower level White House staffer has held the position of United States Secretary of the Army in the past. If we can’t trust these guys with weapons around Manhattan, we’re screwed.

It just really is strange. Air force one flown over new york. For what reason? Just all rather strange

So did they get nice shots of the people of NY running for their lives?
This administration is the epitome of “boneheadedness”.
First this, then later in the day he speaks back to his teleprompter.
Methinks his tiny brain is overworked.

Has anyone in the White House ever heard of Photoshop ?

These comments are really laughable. Support Obama and his policies or not, could this really deserve this many comments? For reason’s sake, talk about something important and stop acting like this is any reflection on his leadership. Some of you need a hobby.

There are a few days left before Obama’s first 100 days are up.
So I guess he saved his best blunder for last.
This one takes the prize.
And the sad thing is many of these terrified New Yorkers probably voted for Obama–and they probably will again.
What will it take to wake people up?
If this doesn’t do it what will?

I’d rather have an administration make a mistake that actually didn’t have any victims – much better than the last administration (see Katrina, Iraq, the Economy, the Constitution, etc.). I love comments by people that have absolutely no perspective on reality (especially the one about Obama’s “tiny brain”, LOL).

So New York–how do you like Obama now?
That’s right give him another chance it’s only been 100 days.
Excuse him for every insensitive, incompetent, and dangerous thing he does to our country.
Chant “Yes We can” and everything will
be OK.

But Obama is so brilliant….
And he has a gift…

Why are you nutters carrying on about the administration?
This was a military operation, and New York state and local officials were notified and chose not to pass it on to the people or to the mayor. This is a New York problem, not a Washington problem.

When the 9/11 “attacks” occurred my immediate, gut response was that it was an inside job. At the time I was in Vermont and to even mention my hunch was almost criminal. Now the city of Brattleboro, Vt has sanctions against Bush for what they believe was an inside job. They regard him as a criminal and a liar and think the 9/11 explanation is BS.
My gut response to this plane-flying is that they need some new raw footage to Photoshop for “evidence” to support their scientifically dubious story. Face it, we were duped.

you all sound like your hanging by threads

i think it’s incredibly sad how some right-wingers jump on any little mishap that occurs during this administration. GET OVER IT! The previous administration you people so strongly advocated failed, immensely I may add, at doing its job properly. People wouldn’t be so scared about this stuff happening if the Bush administration hadn’t made America such an irresistible target for terrorist.

Someone down the chain of actors should have raised a stink, and the NYPD should not have “obeyed” the orders to keep it a secret from the public.
If there ever was a time to thumb one’s nose at Obama, this was it.

Obama and friends ARE the 2nd wave terrorist attack against this Country. This flyover was just a celebration of their victory.

George,
Even though I would not have been so pointed..YOU ARE ON THE BUTTON! Conservatism is another term for selfishness and greed! The conservatives have destroyed our country with their stupid trickle down economics and messing in other country’s business. They are all about wars and have no domestic policy. Why poor and middle class people voted for Republican party in the pass always confused me..but most poor and middle class Americans have left the Republican party and rightly so..and the party is dying a slow but sure death..Hallelujah!

This is so stupid who cares if there was a photo op in New York? I am really supposed to be upset by this? So there was 1 attack 8 years ago on 1 city, we use that as an excuse to terrorize and murder countless people for oil and Bush Jr’s pride. We re-elect the idiot who ordered us there and I’m supposed to see New Yorkers as the victims? Get a clue people, go visit Mexico, India, or Iraq see how many citizens of this planet live in constant fear and danger. Its like the Titanic GET OVER IT! I’m so sick of this if you or a loved one was not IN the twin towers ON 9/11 shut up about it, it didn’t affect you.

Yes, the President of the United States with all his duties would be consulted and have to approve a photo op for Air Force One. The same as a CEO for a huge company would approve a photo for an advertisement. Or know everything his managers do because he is a micro manager.
Geez, get real that is why you hire people to do the mundane things. Can he be held responsible for the idiot doing something dumb? Probably, but to say that he knew ahead of time and approved it. It is very unfortunate that the people of New York had to go through this, but mistakes happen. You apologize, make sure it does not happen again and move on.

Why are they photographing an empty plane? Do you have any idea how expensive it is to operate that thing? 0bama is on it so frequently, why don’t they just take the pics then and photoshop them? Best and Brightest? Yeah. Right!

Why use Photoshop ™ when you can spend millions of $ on the real thing?

And who exactly does the NYPD work for? Oh yeah.. the people of New York. So WHY did they think it was a good idea to listen to the idiot who said not to tell the public?

Stupid….thoughtless… idiotic…
dumb…..good grief!!!!

Our country is currently facing wars with people who don’t mind killing themselves if they can kill us, an economy that looks like it is heading for a replay of the Great Depression, a possible influenza pandemic from Mexico that the CDC did not know about until they read it in the newspapers.
Eventually we are going to have to stop electing idiots as President if we are going to survive.

New York politicians are lashing out at ‘WHOEVER’ is responsible? What do you mean: Whoever’s responsible? OBAMA’S RESPONSIBLE! It’s HIS WATCH. Remember? The BUCK STOPS with ‘THE ONE’. The freakin Media want to give this BUM the credit, for the Sun coming up in the morning, but let something go WRONG….That’s somebode ELSE’ probloem.

“Now the city of Brattleboro, Vt has sanctions against Bush for what they believe was an inside job.”
This is why Vermont is dying and can no longer support itself. It harbors a diseased mentality.

Whoever signed off on this “stunt,” should be in the unemployment line, if not in jail.
H/She incited a panic. Here in OH that’s a crime.

I’m sure Obama didn’t know a thing about it. Most likely it was yet another dirty trick served up by teleprompter!

No-Drama Obama “furious”. He took the heat off of Geitner during the AIG bonus mess, saying he’s the president and it’s his responsibility. Will he step up again. It’s his fault since he’s the president.

does anybody even know what the soul plane was doing there anyway? So, barry wanted pictures of the statue of liberty? is he thinking of sending it back to france like the churchill statue in bush’s old office? is it too late for an intervention?

Hey ellsbells930 did you read my post? I am empathetic of the victims! You know the countless people murdered without reason in Iraq, the American soldiers coming back from a point less war injured physically and mentally, all the people in less fortunate countries such as Sri Lanka that live day in and day out with the possibility of a violent death! The people I DON’T have empathy for are those cling to the attack as a reason to murder thousands and hate an entire religion. I don’t care at all about those who some how think the life of one American is worth more than thousands of Iraqi’s. Why in this country do we only count American lives in the offical death toll? The life of an American means nothing more than the life of a human being from another county but I don’t see people in Ohio going on about the terrorist acts in Bombay. There have been so many deaths since 2001 what makes those the important ones that should be mourned? NOTHING!!!

$30k just to start Air force one. Glad the obama administration saw fit to waste more tax dollars on a photo op that could have been done for $25 in Photo Shop.. What a waste of $$ and for what… his image. That’s all this admin thinks about is his image. Not thinking about tax payers. And for those of you who said obama didn’t know… yah okay… the president always knows what is happening with Air Force one. Obama knew all about this photo ops waste of tax payer money. Not to mention he scared the hell out of new yorkers… This is the most imcompetent presidency in history.

hey, what’s the buzz with that chick in the iraqy jail? what’s ‘prompter totus doing to bring her home. i hear rumors that JEsse jackson is offering his services

Obama is Superman, so why didn’t they do a photo op of Obama flying to the rescue instead of Air Force One

I see the “real Americans” are out in full force this morning! Angela, I agree with your post completely. This was a stupid stunt, of course some will use it as an excuse to critize the President AGAIN. Josh, good point, I caught the same error. The President was NOT on the plane, it’s not “Air Force 1″.

they could have done a picture of barry in a super man uniform, getting nailed to a cross, with one hand full of $20 bills, with a for sale sign in the other hand and air force one behind him with the dog flying the plane with thunder and lightning bolts above and below the totus seal. this would have been better that flying into NYC. even bush wouldn’t do that.

this is all bush/cheney’s fault. congress needs to hold hearings and prosecute the bush/cheney cabal for making our Lord and Savior President Barack Obama look bad.Bush/Cheney are stupid. President Obama is smart and hip and hansome. I love him. Congress should make a new law if you don’t praise and honor and worship and serve President Obama, you should go to jail for 2 days.

Take away the teleprompter and he doesn’t even know the topic he is speaking about. Funny, and so many Americans think he is on thier side. Whatever, the guy is a moron. Without the teleprompter, he is useless. IN fact, i don’t think he is even that smart. Flying a plane over new york, wasting tax dollars doing it is just stupid and indefensable. You libs can’t defend this. It’s and outrage.

Ahhh, what a waste of our tax dollars!
I don’t care what party you belong to, those in Washington are having far too much fun on our dime!

Well, if they got a great picture during their photo op, it will be used somehow for marketing purposes – to pump up this administration to the American people, which will in turn increase confidence and improve our economy. A good investment and wise decision from the pr/marketing side of the obama administration.
obama is an idiot.

Chris you nailed it when you wrote, “Okay…in today’s day and age couldn’t they have just taken a picture of the Statue of Liberty and then photoshop a picture of the plane flying over it?” This is ridiculous people. It is all monopoly money to these gov’t crooks now. What a wasteful disgrace!!!

Once again, the buck doesn’t stop anywhere within the vicinity of this president.

I bet the use the picture to put on their new and improved pig flu vaccine.

Can you imagine the outrage if this had happened 6 mos ago? I bet somebody will still float the idea that the orders were originally cut during the Bush Admin.

Caldera – one huge government idiot! But I suppose even if he did warn everybody via the media , there would be some person who never reads or watches the news or talks to people who would cry “It’s another 9/11!”. Terrible, dumb stunt that wasn’t necessary. Plus, it was a 747 I think. One of the oldest, heaviest and worst fuel guzzling planes in the world. Overkill for POTUS and all his staff and press. Caldera needs to be fired.

“The only new president less popular was Bill Clinton, who got off to a notoriously bad start after trying to force homosexuals on the military…”
I can only imagine who you are quoting here. How about ‘end discrimination’?
-And these poll numbers and how you interpreted them. I hereby grant you the award for the most persistent statistical contortionist.

From the Daily News:
Sources said the chief reason for the panic-inducing flight was to create souvenir pictures of Air Force One flying over the Statue of Liberty to be given out – like a presidential tie clip – to family, friends or supporters.”
Which makes nearly impossible that Obama did not know.
“NYPD Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne said the department was told of the “aerial photo mission” last Thursday but was ordered to stay quiet about it. But they did alert 911 operators at 7 a.m. to tell callers it was an authorized military mission, he said.”
So the White House told them not to tell anyone, and yet here are Obamatons telling us that NY authorities are to blame for not telling NYC residents.
Typical.

He is lying as usual. He owes everyone a televised apology and explanation.

yeah, right. Like the president schedules his own plane. Probably performs the maintenance himself too. Orders the food. Determines the flight path.
Get a clue, drjohn.

Looks like the white house aide is taking the fall for this one, although he notified the NY authorities. Someone failed to tell the public.

OSAMAS laughing hysterically in his cave. Talk about TERRORISM.
Give the Terrorist what they want.

Posted by: Skip | Apr 28, 2009 9:35:19 AM
I don’t listen to or watch Rush, Skip.
Hannity either. I hardly watch any news at all any more. About the only thing I’ll watch is Special Report.
News is usually one or two days behind events, sometimes more.

Posted by: max | Apr 28, 2009 9:44:14 AM
LOL
“That’s not the Air Force One I sued to know”

I compliment you ABC
It did not take me as long on your site to find the story as it took me on NBCs site, they hid it in a local news section. It is a shame it was not a top story, but if you are into entertainment instead of journalism, I guess that would explain it. Rock on!

MSNBC had this report last night that Obama wants us stop using toliet paper. The report said americans are wasting it and Obama wants to save the globe.

“Do you suggest that someone other than Obama can order both of those planes to be somewhere without TOTUS?”
Both? And yes.

Interesting. Now it has come out that both the NY Police Department and the Mayor’s office DID know about the flyby in advance. Why didn’t these locals raise their concerns?

Apparently these “photo-ops” are routinely done as rewards to donors and supporters.
WHO WAS ON THE PLANE
Release the manifest and let americans see who was being “reimbursed” for their donation with a taxpayer funded flight on Scare Force One!!!

Is President Barry going to use the version of totus with 2 screens or the big daddy 50in tv on tomorrow’s good times with barry show? maybe he could bring out the dog to do some tricks and answer some questions from the people. he could even bring a air mattress and let larry summers take a nap. Emmanuel “Toes” could do an opening jig as well. this would make a great prime time show. This Barry is big time good.

drjohn: Try not be naive. The office responsible for all matters related to AF One is the White House Military Liaison. Obama, nor any president before him, does not personally approve anything related to the plane or its schedule anymore than he schedules the limosine. Presidents have more important matters to attend.

Can you imagine how many people it took to pull this off?
And not one person thought how it might terrify people in NYC?
Unforgivable and unbelievable.
And Obama is unaware of what his staff is doing? Incompetent.

Trust me, the POTUS is appraised of the status of Air Force One and it’s back-ups daily. At the very least, two of his most inner circle know it on an almost hourly basis. Your messiah is lying to you. Wake up…

It is a true shame we cannot bottle all this crankiness and completely overdone, overhyped contrived “outrage” that oddly enough is the same from the far right regardless of the story.
If we could bottle all this verbal pollution and use it for something productive – imagine the possibilities.

Steve Z:”WHO PAYS for all the fuel burned by Air Force One and its two fighter escorts, and the salary of three pilots?”
Pilots are REQUIRED to maintain current flight time as part of their training. This is part of why we have the best Air Force in the world. Are you advocating slashing the Air Force’s training budget? Perhaps cutting all that waste of ammunition at the marine sniper firing range while you’re at it.

As for who was on the plane, we’ll get that manifest released right after Vice President Cheney’s energy task force attendance list – which set actual national policy goals leading up to the oil price spike – is released. Deal?
Posted by: jhw539 | Apr 28, 2009 10:26:31 AM
——–
Stop making excuses for Obama.
We could ask that Hillary release the members of her super secret health care task force too from when Bill was Pres. It is an old game.
Obama must tell us who was on board.
Who was Obama paying off with this flight!
RELEASE THE ENTIRE MANIFEST!

Pilots are REQUIRED to maintain current flight time as part of their training. This is part of why we have the best Air Force in the world. Are you advocating slashing the Air Force’s training budget? Perhaps cutting all that waste of ammunition at the marine sniper firing range while you’re at it.
Posted by: jhw539 | Apr 28, 2009 10:28:08 AM
——–
This is how far you go to defend Obama.
Is it your assertion that they must scare the crap out of New Yorkers and pay off campaign supporters with this “photo-op” in order to maintain training requirements??
Is that your idea of a Joke?

So the taxpayers paid for this flyover so Obama’s donors can go for a joy ride?
It would not surprise me at all.
Was Obama as choked up and outraged as he was over the AIG bonuses?

MNM:”Is it your assertion that they must scare the crap out of New Yorkers and pay off campaign supporters with this “photo-op” in order to maintain training requirements??”
The assertion that this was a waste of taxpayer dollars is what I was replying to, and in light of the Air Forces requirements on pilot seat time my point was and is that is STUPID argument.
As for scaring some New Yorkers, if the mayors office was informed ahead of time (it was), and the NYPD was informed ahead of time (they were), and they did not raise a single concern (they did not – didn’t even bother to inform the mayor it was considered such a minor thing), then I place any blame for the scare on the local authorities. They were informed PRECISELY so they could raise any concerns. They didn’t.

new yorkers love this guy. they probably thought bush did it. now that they know totus’ voice, barry is responsible, they’ll shut up and say and do and belive what they are told. They will say that they are sorry for questioning big boy’s motivations.

60% approval rating.
That’s why Obama can do these stupid things.
It’s the only thing that keeps his administration from sinking.
Wake up America.

Where’s the transparency?
How many people knew?
Who thought this up?
Who was on the flight?
Why doesn’t Obama know about the decisions his staff makes?
Doesn’t he read line by line how our tax dollars are spent?

MNM: In the initial announcements after the flight it was stated that the photo opportunity was combined with a training exercise to save money. That’s documented, google it up.
The Air Force will get it’s training hours some other way in future, perhaps by sending escorts along on some cross-country flights or shuttles to get some formation hours with a VC-25.
You can carry on your little witch hunt for who got to do a ride along. I’m sure that’s the TOP priority of the American people right now, seeing as how it didn’t actually cost the taxpayers an extra dime and is part of a bipartisan practice spanning administrations.

MNM: In the initial announcements after the flight it was stated that the photo opportunity was combined with a training exercise to save money. That’s documented, google it up.
jhw539
——
Maybe so but as happens often in the Obama administration the first explanation has evolved to now exclude the training part of all this.
The mea culpa includes nothing about training and the Caldera (sp) did not in any way shape or form claim that this was anything other than a photo-op!
Obama needs to:
RELEASE THE MANIFEST AND TELL US WHO WAS PAID OFF WITH THIS PHOTO-OP FLIGHT
Which donors and supporters got their fly-over ground zero on Scare Force One?

meggie:”Where’s the transparency?
How many people knew?”
The New York Mayor’s office knew ahead of time; the aide informed didn’t even feel it important enough to mention to the mayor. The NYPD also was informed (that was probably a few hundred, depending on if they included in the full department brief or just the westside beats).
No one foresaw the localized bouts of panic it caused.

MNM:”The mea culpa includes nothing about training ”
You mean it was a sincere apology for scaring some folks, without a bunch of unrelated CYA to cut off possible partisan attack points? I’m convinced, they MUST have been lying about it being combined with training time.

Rick:” Law 101
This is the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater.”
Since the local police and city authorities did not predict this response, no, it is not like yelling fire in a theater. The response was clearly not obvious (the mayor’s aide didn’t even bother to inform the mayor), except in hindsight.

What kind crazy stunt was that to scare already traumatized people due to 9/11. My question is what is going on in Washington. Mayor Bloomberg is right to be outraged.

MNM:”The mea culpa includes nothing about training ”
You mean it was a sincere apology for scaring some folks, without a bunch of unrelated CYA to cut off possible partisan attack points? I’m convinced, they MUST have been lying about it being combined with training time.
Posted by: jhw539 | Apr 28, 2009 10:58:17 AM
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NO, I mean the part where they now admit that it was a White House requested photo op to “update file photo’s” of Scare Force One.
They won’t tell us who in the white house requested this.
They also refuse to tell us who was on board.
All they have to do is release the manifest and we will know the truth.
Surely the most open administration in history could tell us who was on board when this debacle took place!!
TELL US WHICH DONORS WERE PAID OFF WITH THIS TAXPAYER FUNDED FLYOVER NYC/GROUND ZERO
This is easy to resolve, IF they can afford to tell the truth!!

Carol:”Mayor Bloomberg is right to be outraged. ”
His office was informed in advance of the flyby and raised no concerns at all. He looks like an idiot now for his feigned outrage.

Obviously, Limbaugh must have just introduced this “Scare Force One” bit on the air. Goody, I love when the special people think they’re being witty. It’s cute.

OK, lets assume they are adding the guise of also a “training” moment for Scare Force One pilots.
We don’t need to argue that.
They should still release the manifest.
Tell us who was on board this frightful faux training mission!!
WHICH CAMPAIGN SUPPORTERS AND DONORS HAD SEATS ON THE SCARE FORCE ONE DEBACLE.
WHO DID THE TAXPAYERS REIMBURSE FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF OBAMA!!
WAS THIS A 100 DAY CELEBRATORY LAP FOR SUPPORTERS?
This is sooo easy to resolve. My bet is they cannot afford to release the manifest and will not do so.
As usual the state run Obamedia will not force the question.

We have
GEORGE W BUSH AND HIS GOP TO THANK FOR
OBAMA.

Does anyone here ACTUALLY believe that Obama is not accountable for HIS planes? He clearly had to have given the OK for this stunt because he is in charge of his planes. And don’t even try to say that the military is responsible for them because, as president, Obama is Commander in Chief. I honestly don’t understand how he can pass the blame onto someone else. And if Caldera actually IS responsible for approving his without clearing it with the president, then he and all the people who listened to him without question need to be fired. And they haven’t been. Now doesn’t that raise even the tiniest bit of suspicion that the President is to blame here?

How soon we forget! Obama has undone every strategy and policy that was enacted as a response to the terrorist (yes, terrorist…not man-made crisis) attack on 9-11. Oh, everything except the response plan when the air space over the capital being violated, which we saw enacted last week.
Obama has appologized to the world for our nation being arrogant. Arrogance is forgetting the pain all Americans felt that morning as we watched those planes strike not just the twin towers but our hearts. Arrogance is assuming because Obama ran on a campaign of change that Americans are so accepting of a new way that we would forget our history and the pain of losing our innocence and security.

anyone who actually cares about this is a complete idiot, nothing happened and its just a plane, if people are going to be afraid of every single plane maybe they shouldn’t live in new york city

Connie:”The president had to know and I won’t ever believe he didn’t know. ”
Reality is secondary to belief! Do you even know how many VC-25s there are? It’s not like he was left without a plane for the day (on the extraordinary event he needed it on the spur-of-the-moment).

“I’ve been under the impression the far left would like for the country to forget we were attacked.”
Actually, what is happening is that now that the left is in power, we’re going after the guy responsible for that attack. Your assessment is WAY off-base. Maybe if Obama blew a third, totally unrelated entity back to the stone ages…maybe that kind of noise would make you think he was fighting the terrorists who pose a threat to us?

This is what happens when a media made politician becomes President. I don’t get the impression that they take anything seriously, especially national security, other than their continue image-making process. Everyone Obama has appointed to his administration is either a crook or moron. Is it any wonder that they would do something this stupid?

Can anyone tell me exactly where we can now see these photos? I mean, if they were taking pictures… where can we see them now as to the purpose of taking these pictures in such a manner? Haven’t these idiots ever heard of Photoshop? Cripes MS Paint even!

orlandocajun:
Better to keep quiet and let them guess if you are a moron or not, then to open you mouth and remove all doubt.
I take it you think Chaney, Bush, and all his croonies were the prime examples of piety and justice for this country and this world. You just don’t get it.
The Republican party was dessimated last November. They loped off the heads of the entire Republican leadership in government EXCEPT for 1. THE ONLY REMAINING #1 rank Republican man in government was Sen. Arlen Specter and guess what… NOW HE EVEN JUMPED SHIP.
Perhaps it’s time you cut those strings that you endearling gave Chaney to tell you how you should act, what you should say and where you should go and start making some diverse decisions of your own.

i think this was a test to see how passive we’ve become, in preperations for o-bomber to let his third world cronies bang us up some more. if this was done w/out the pres’s knowledge and w/o public awareness….who’s to say it wasnt a practice run to dispose our inherent weaknesses? caldera should be considered amaricas biggest terrorist threat in over 8 years. he exposed our presidents arrogance and took the heat for o bomber so he didnt have to look like the boob that he is in front of america and the world at large. what an expensive and ignorant stunt. this aint no freeking popularity contest (punks)!!!

Obama furious? OBAMA had to have known. Its his plane. If he doesn’t know his own plane is being used…what else is he out of touch with? He is too cowardly too admit he made a mistake. So this person Caldara is the scapegoat for Obama…Obama seems to use alot of escape goats .

All I have to say is if this had happened on Bush’s watch, it would be front page news for days, and Bush would be the fodder of all the talking heads and late night comedians. He would be portrayed as a total moron, out of touch with reality . . . I like Obama, but the extent to which he has a free pass from the press and other entertainers is astounding, and scary . . .

“Obama had to know?”
Indeead, when he woke up he should have realised someone took the keys of his plane.

so many comments for nothing !!dont you think Oba has enough to worry about..

There is no way that Obama did not know that Air Force One was flying over the Statue of Liberty and the Twin Towers. Anyone that believes that is just plain dumb. As long as people listen to the drive-by news they will never get the truth about anything. That is why Obama was elected. As far as Spector is concerned—Good, glad he is leaving the Republican Party because he never was a Conservative to start with. Graham, Snowe,Collins and the rest of the Liberal Republicans can leave also.

“Doesn’t he have to approve where and when his plane goes?”
No. And it’s not his plane.

Hellooooooo! Nobody in New York noticed the plane “like” Air Force One was escorted by a USAF Fighter Plane? Shouldn’t that tell someone that it was NOT another 9/11? Was it really necessary? Probably not. HOWEVER, common sense should have told everyone if it was another attack, the fighter jet would NOT have been escorting it. It would have shot it down! DUH!!!

“Of course a wing plane could easily be mistaken for a military escort on a hijacked plane. The military would not shoot down a plane over the city causing 100,000 of death on the ground, but would escort it away to a less populated area.”
No, but it would shoot it down over the New York Harbor, which is where it came up from and where it was coming from in the video from Battery Park.

YUP I am sure he did not know — right it sure took the news away from the CIA and other mistakes he is making.

NOW for our administration: well they rather scare the poor people in NY with abusing our tax money, flying A1 around for photo ops, then putting a health division together. Napolitano is incapable to handle her normal job and I feel that our government is not prepared to handle anything right now. As long as campaigning and talking hot air or playing the blame game is needed, they do well.
In this case concerning the swine flue, I don’t think they know what they are dealing with and wasting a good amount of time.
Well as long as B.O. gets is photos in.
By the way my prayers are going out to the people in NY, they lived the horrible hours of 9/11 again and I am sure horrible memories came up and to the folks infected with swines flue.

Last week Obama wanted it done…. now, “he never knew anything about it and is furious.”
That’s typical of this piece of garbage in the Oval Office.

Never have written to a blog or for that matter any internet website…….but this stupidity of flying over NYC in the Air Force One jet…plus two “F whatevers” brings out the anger in me!
This is not only stupid…but given the reasons for doing it…I would say it is borderline insane!
Can you imagine what the New York Times editorial would print if this was a Bush Administration gaff? Don’t think so. If the editorial page writers do an editorial blasting the “Oh Bama” underlings….I will personally donate $10,000 to the New York Times Neediest cases…..
I think this is a safe bet!
p.s. I think Bloomberg should fire the idiot who didn’t tell him about the “exercise”….both in the N.Y.P.D. and his “Event” staff director.

I love all the ignorant comments on here. Nothing irrelevant – just bitter, slams from anxious Republicans.
“Well…your poodle is now a puddle.”
Oh, ok. Thanks for clarifying. Problem solved, guys! He wasn’t a poodle. He was a puddle. It’s all so clear, now…

When one of the President’s jets is out of service, many authorized contingency plans are put into place. These are not normal, everyday jets. They are always on the ready to carry our President in any situation. You can bet without a doubt that Obama was briefed as to what was going on. It’s infuriating how he keeps getting a pass with this “I didn’t know” garbage. Let’s face it folks, if he didn’t know he’s incompetent. If he did know, he’s corrupt. Either way, we’re getting screwed! The press needs to start doing its job.

why would somebody do something like that without full and absolute approval? does america have ANY common sence?

What if this would have been an enemy plane? Aren’t they supposed to shoot them down?? He had to have known what was going on. If this would have been GW it would be the only thing in the news and internet.

nicholas | Apr 29, 2009 11:28:19 PM
You asked the absolutely correct question:
“why would somebody do something like that without full and absolute approval?”
And I am quite willing to bet that it was done with the “full and absolute approval” of the President.
The Administration tried to say it was to update their photo file.
That, Nicholas, is a big fat lie.
No one takes AF-1 on a “joy-ride” around Manhattan and New Jersey without having a very good and fully approved reason, period. Oh, they may have been taking photos . . . that is a virtual certainty.
But updating the photo file was NOT the reason for the flight.
The real reason is what they are covering up. and if they won’t tell the truth about it, we’re going to speculate about it.
The only suggestion I’ve heard so far that makes any sense at all, is the one about taking a group of supporters on the flight, perhaps as a reward for their help in the campaign, or, as a way to raise campaign funds for the future.
Or, BOTH!

Best commentary i’ve seen about this…why would they need a photo op?

Has anyone wondered if it might be Obama’s daughters that were going for a trip to see the statue on our dime (cost almost $400K) because their daddy is president. Honestly… it wasn’t just a
‘presidential jet’, it was one of only two planes known as Air Force One… Yeah that plane. Obama’s plane. I smell a coverup. Obama was furious that it made the news and made him look bad… I bet it was his idea.

“When one of the President’s jets is out of service, many authorized contingency plans are put into place. These are not normal, everyday jets. They are always on the ready to carry our President in any situation. You can bet without a doubt that Obama was briefed as to what was going on. It’s infuriating how he keeps getting a pass with this “I didn’t know” garbage. Let’s face it folks, if he didn’t know he’s incompetent. If he did know, he’s corrupt. Either way, we’re getting screwed! The press needs to start doing its job”.
EXACTLY!!!
What did this cost $300K-$400K?Unbelievable with how the economy is struggling, people out of jobs, families losing their homes. What a JOKE! I’d like to really know who was on that plane.