President Obama to Europe: Sorry About the Bush Years*

Mr. Obama is an honest, forthright individual who has done more to engage and calm the world in the short time he has been president than his predecesor did in 8 yaers. What’s wrong with telling the truth and not hiding things under the carpet. The American people can take it.

GIVE ACT
The words “mandatory” appear in this House version on page 43 and on page285 .
SEC. 6104. DUTIES. b 6 (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
Here is the full text of the 13th Amendment:
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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I think this is the second amendment that Congress has pissed on.

America’s new boy king, Barack Obama, has brought his charm offensive to Turkey. Wasn’t it just a few days ago that he was posing for cameras at the G20 and offering half-baked ideas about rogue capitalism and stimulus packages, European cooperation and more NATO troops for Afghanistan? With great fanfare, and many more photo-ops he rejoiced that, unlike his first magical mystery tour to Pakistan in 1981, he could enter an Islamic country with an American passport.
It’s easy to see why, like Bush before him, Obama is currying favor with the Turks. The military and the oil men want him to. Israel wants him to. And why shouldn’t he smooth over the rift.
Turkey can be an interlocutor among Egypt, Hamas, Syria, Israel, Palestine. Then, there’s pesky Iran. Operation pincher. Iran between the nutcrackers of Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan. How long will it be before someone insists there, too, are weapons of mass destruction.
What does King Obama offer Turkey in exchange for her delights? Entry into the European Union. Obama has offered Turkey, in his churlishly arrogant way, Europe’s hand in marriage; whether the Europeans like it or not. Europe has strongly intimated that it does not want a shotgun marriage. Turkey is not Western enough and certainly not Christian. Being tacitly secular, for a former Islamic state, is not enough. Europe is full to the gills with undigested Muslims. Why doesn’t Obama offer the Turks American citizenship?
One other pesky problem: the Armenian genocide, which the Turks deny and the Armenians and the rest of the world avow. During the campaign for the presidency, Obama’s website stated the the Armenian genocide was an “admitted fact”. A House resolution is slated, yet again, to deal with the question of the massacres that cost 1.5 million Armenian lives during WWI. But it is currently being reported that “no one can predict” what the little king’s expedient stance will be now that he as been elected.

It takes a bigger man to apologize. Only the midget minds would never do so. President Obama understands that before anything get better….you have to have humility. I teaches this everyday to my patients that has been “broken”. Strength comes with humility. God bless our President.

The more I get to know President Obama the more I’m glad I decided to vote for him. Been a Republican all my life, but decided in the voting booth it was time for a change. I haven’t been disappointed. I think he’s representing the best of America and he’s making at least this old Harley rider proud.

Who and what else caused these problems. President Obama did this all in 75 days. The fact is simple…this world was not in chaos until the Dummie took office via a court.

People make up America….she is not perfect……….read it’s history. Until the imperfections are admitted and accepted…..those who choose to ignore it, will remain the same. Nothing changes, nothing changes!

it’s one thing to apologize for our actions and claim that we are trying to make things right…it’s another to say ‘it was all HIS fault.’ if he wants to apologize, fine…but quit pointing the finger…that is what he has done on every issue so far…how long will the ‘the previous administration caused this’ excuse be used?
how many times do people need to be reminded that obama was a senator prior to becoming president. he voted on the stimulus bills, budgets, etc…but nothing thus far has been his fault at all. he ‘inherited’ everything…even though he had a vote.

Charles Krauthammer both you and Bush along with your neoconservative supporters own Iraq. Think about that!
Also Ike’s granddaughter Susan Eisenhower is a Obamacan who threw her support to Obama when he needed support last year.
Charles Krauthammer we challenge you to go on The Rachel Maddow Show! Hell throw in Karl Rove too. Rachel can take you both on at the same time!

Referring to his campaign statements about “very specific decisions that the previous administration had made that I believed had lowered our standing in the world,” the president said, “I would like to think that with my election and the early decisions that we’ve made, that you’re starting to see some restoration of America’s standing in the world.”
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Well now you piece of work, beg for troops for more war…..OIL is IT and always will be about the OIL. You are a bigger BUSH than BUSH. WAR without end, LIAR!

at least under bush the stupid TARP program required congressional approval, which allows the citizens to hold their representatives accountable eventually for their actions. . .
the latest TARP-like bank bailouts are being done extra-congressionally through workarounds cooked up by the white house, treasury, and the FDIC which means NO CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL REQUIRED. . .
very scary.

GIVE ACT
The words “mandatory” appear in this House version on page 43 and on page285 .
SEC. 6104. DUTIES. b 6 (6) Whether a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people could be developed, and how such a requirement could be implemented in a manner that would strengthen the social fabric of the Nation and overcome civic challenges by bringing together people from diverse economic, ethnic, and educational backgrounds.
Here is the full text of the 13th Amendment:
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime where of the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
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I think this is the second amendment that Congress has ###### on.

US Recovery Is Far Off, Banks Are ‘Basically Insolvent’: Soros
The U.S. economy is in for a “lasting slowdown” and could face a Japan-style period of relatively low growth coupled with high inflation, billionaire investor George Soros said on Monday.
Soros, speaking to Reuters Financial Television, also warned that rescuing U.S. banks could turn them into “zombies” that draw the lifeblood of the economy, prolonging the economic slowdown.
An announcement from President SOROS!

Obama is the worst advertisement for the United States.
Obama tries to build himself up by putting the rest of America down.

Soros is doing very nicely. Everything Obama does seems to make Soros money.
Hmmmm

Sally J—and Bush was such a success. the president doesn’t own the world. your post doesn’t reflect the nuance in what happened in Europe or the gains made. diplomacy is not a pass/fail as your post would reflect, quite the opposite. but hey just cut and paste O’Reilly and Limbaugh and you won’t even have to attempt to think. “FAIL” lol.

“Other than fluffy press for Obama and Michelle, the substance of the trip was failure.”
Not really. They knew what they were going to get going in. I think the goal was to lay the ground work for future dialogues. That goal was reached with flying colors.

sally j
“Obama trip:
He wanted more money from the Europeans in the economic bailout. They said “NO”.”
Actually $1 trillion, nice try though, back to Hannity you go
Grade for Obama: A
At the NATO meeting he wanted more combat troops for Afghanistan. The European response: “NO!” (please cite quotes of nations that said “no”.
Grade for Obama:
Obama gives a speech about disarming the US nuclear deterrance.”
Russia and US agreed to arms limitation and better relations are restored between the two countries
Grade for Obama: A

Apparently none of you have read any european newspaper they are having a good laugh at Pres.Obama some of the comments are: weakest President ever!!! when will he leave??? how come he insults the US??? How dare Michelle Obama puts her arm around the Queen, was she not told about protocol??? Europe might not have liked Pres. Bush but they have no use for Pres. Obama they call him the Pres. with no backbone. But then you would never hear what that from our press because they are so unbiased.

I wonder if Obama will blame Bush and the United States for the democracy in Iraq.

“I wonder if Obama will blame Bush and the United States for the democracy in Iraq.”
No, just the 4,000+ American casualties, 100,000+ Iraqi casualties and the fabrication that led to their deaths.

What a complete and total self-promoting, self-aggrandizing SLIME. OOPS, I mean how unpresidential. There is no precedent for this anywhere in the world.
Obama got nothing for his groveling except to appease anti-americans overseas and lower our stature and security worldwide.
His oath was to “protect and defend” not screw the US. We have pulled Europe’s a** out of the fire over and over again, and I don’t just mean WWII
Most recently, the Europeans could not even handle conflicts in their own European Union. They called on us to take care of their problems in Kosovo, Yugoslavia(Bosnia/Serbia) and are total ingrates for our efforts.
We have nothing to apologize for, they should be thanking us, not cheering an apology from a slimebag.
We will however soon share their inability to defend themselves, even among themselves.
Obama is moving this country to a Euro financial model, even handing over our financial sovereignty to some unelected group of self interested Euros..which he agreed to during the G20.
European countries cannot afford to defend themselves, they have a chronic very high 10 percent unemployment, they have LOUSY national health care with high premiums and high cancer death rates as they are forced to ratio
n care. This is the model Obama seeks for us.
Now Obama denigrates the US to appease this group of LOSERS!
When Europe has contributed something, or for that matter managed their own conflicts without our help. Or, when Europe gets their own financial house in order then we can discuss any theoretical BS merits in apologizing for helping them and defending them.
Come to think of it, maybe Obama should resign and run for president of the EU, he seems to appreciate EU while being derisive of the US.

“Now Obama denigrates the US to appease this group of LOSERS!”
You have to love the people born with a winning lottery ticket chastising those who weren’t for not being born with a winning lottery ticket. U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

During the G-20 no world leader trashed their own country–and no world leader trashed his/her predecessor.
Except for Obama.
I think that says volumes about his character and integrity.

I love the way Obama set the stage to make himself look like a rock star.
Then he and Michelle strutted around like they were models on a catwalk.
I can see why our enemies are so intimidated by Obama–that grin is scary.

meggie—i think it’s a lie to say Obama trashed our nation. by portraying the US as a nation of diplomacy, a country that respects others, that the United States is a nation of tolerance, and that the last 8 years weren’t a portrayal of the best the US had to offer the world is right on. Obama has never trashed this nation. saying we have not been perfect and that relationships with other countries need to be repaired is not un-American, it is the exact opposite.
the hate radio of Limbaugh and O’Reily are the true un-Americans. they perpetuate the fallacy that the US is so much better than everybody else—and that is pompous and stupid and not at all realistic.

You have to love the people born with a winning lottery ticket chastising those who weren’t for not being born with a winning lottery ticket. U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Posted by: silky | Apr 7, 2009 11:57:24 AM
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You have that backwards. That is to say we used our lottery winnings to help the LOSERS, over and over again, but they still gave us the proverbial finger and our slimebag President apologized for our generosity of blood and treasure to pull them out of trouble time and again.

Posted by: silky | Apr 7, 2009 11:48:17 AM
“The US President is in no position promise to rid the world of the Bomb, says Janet Daley.”
“Michelle Obama, take note: we don’t do hugs”

The Radical, more self-absorbed Jimmy Carter. He’s a miserable President for American prosperity.

saying that the way international affairs were handled during the last 8 years and wanting to do better is not trashing President Bush. it’s stating simple facts. during the Bush years America portrayed itself almost constantly in contradiction to america’s highest ideals. Obama didn’t even mention his Bush’s name.

President George W. Bush held the position for 8 years with dignity and respect. He was not involved in any scandals where he lied under oath regarding his relationship with one woman, or where his administration audited another woman he slept with, before she could tell her story.
President Bush also provided barry O a very smooth transition, not like the clinton who trashed the white house before they left when he came in 2000.
Barry is the epitomy of the left- blame others for your own incompetence and tell the masses that gov’t is the only way to obtain happiness.
Wake up people.

Perhaps Obama should have paid a visit to Normandy. All of Obama’s actions are simply a result of being George Soros’s and the Center for American Progress’s puppet. It is their philosophy that he is propagandizing. (If you don’t believe this, check out their website; it’s all there; read George Soro’s opinions about America.)Obama continuously puts down America and this is disgraceful and VERY UNPRESIDENTIAL. Look at history and the destructiveness that Europeans have caused by the leaders they have promoted. They refrain from helping even when the conflict is in their backyard, such as the Balkans. It has always been America that has come to their rescue. Adding to the propaganda is Obama’s narcissistic personality disorder bordering on sociopathic. We are in for a very long and destructive 4 years. It’s time for the other half of America, who idolize him, to wake up and recognize what is happening to our country.

Obama sounds like the Dixie Chicks!

Bush had too much class to go after the Clintons, and as far as that is concerned there was a whole lot to go after.
Bush remained presidential and put the dignity of the country over self partisan interests.
Obama could learn a few things from Bush, but Obama thinks he knows everything, so that is unlikely to happen.
Bush always was careful to do what he thought was best for the US, agree or not.
Obama is only interested in doing what is best for himself, reading the US the riot act, and making us pay for our past success and generosity. He will most certainly continue to “teach the US a good lesson” , one that we will likely never forget.
How did it happen that we elected a President that HATES his own country and will sacrifice us to the rest of the world because of that.

A DREAM/NIGHTMARE—most americans are educated enough to know that all major politicians giving speeches use teleprompters…all your heroes did: Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Bush I, Bush II.
and most americans voted for the president because we feel he was the best candidate to handle the complexities of the world.

Nobama—President Bush had plenty to say about “my predecessor.” Go back and read/listen/watch.

and most americans voted for the president because we feel he was the best candidate to handle the complexities of the world.
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How wrong can you get! Say your sorry……good excuse to use is I drank the kool Aid!

“These pathetic world leaders BO is groveling to, whom he is also desperately trying to emulate now, are the same ones who have relied on the US to do everything throughout the last 50 years.”
Wow…it’s hard to imagine why the world views the U.S. as arrogant.

Somebody needs to reboot Obama’s teleprompter. His 27 year-old chief speechwriter knows only the campaign speech, slightly retuned. Every speech starts with Bush-bashing: Him Evil; Me Good. Didn’t his (Obama’s) grandmother ever tell him you don’t build yourself up by tearing the other person down. Yes, Mr. Obama, we know you’re different from Bush. Get on with it.

Many Democratic Partisans made this conception of a lowered opinion of the USA, when a Republican is President, for pure political gain.
Having traveled and worked throughout Europe over several decades, it is simply a myth. It reflects the ugly partisan effort to dehumanize the opposition, and is actually quite dangerous.
If Democrats in the MSM, actually think it has merit, they are truly delusional, as the anti-American sentiment was the same as it was during the Clinton – Carter Eras, as it was during the Reagan – Bush Eras.
In fact, during the Clinton Era, the US President was often considered the source of jokes, and the USA was considered weak.
Sorry, but just because many Partisans who favor the large Government – socialist lean of the modern Democrat Party, become more vocal during a Republican Tenure in the Executive Branch, doesn’t equate to a change in USA reputation.
We know how manipulative polling data can be as well. When the Media reports biased material during a Republican Presidency, of course less positive conceptions are going to exist.
The reality remains, GW Bush liberated Millions in the ME, in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Far more in the World have shown a new appreciation for US sacrifice. If we poll the population of the new Democracies who were born from former Iron Curtain, we see a far different picture from the Western European conceptions.
Also, the mindset in Europe, with it’s overt anti-Semitism, is not exactly the most attractive to be following.
For example, just because Chirac, Schroeder, Putin, etc., wanted to keep a monster named Saddam for the contracts on Oil, doesn’t mean the USA should have followed this folly.
Sometimes, the USA has led admirably, and some in Europe have resented the positives in a juvenile form of jealousy.

Unadultured adulation clouds the mind.

Rob Easterling, could you tell us in all honesty that your hero, George W. Bush, never used a teleprompter or ever said “um”, “er”, “uh”? what president including Eisenhower and beyond has not used a teleprompter? which one? please, do tell us. Obama has every right to let Europe know that things are different and that we won’t be acting like we own the world. he hasn’t apologized for Bush (as Tapper wrote simply to inflame this thread with hyperbole). he’s only said that the last 8 years were not the greatest for US-European relations, and that is a factual statement.

Well it appears the worm continues turn beyond the criticisms of Obama in British papers.
This is an excerpt from Der Spiegel. The Germans and French appear to believe Obama is quite arrogant in so publicly telling them to accept Turkey into the EU. Apparently they understand some things are best said privately or not at all, like bashing your own country.
Excerpt below:
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US President Barack Obama says Turkey’s future is in the European Union. Not everyone agrees. Numerous politicians in Germany have gone on the attack, and even French President Sarkozy is unimpressed. Turkey’s role at the NATO summit has soured the mood. …
Now that Obama is in Turkey, however, some political camps — particularly in Germany — have discovered the political efficacy of Obama bashing. While in Ankara, Obama reiterated his support for Turkish membership in the European Union, a position he first voiced on Sunday in Prague. That doesn’t sit well with some.
“Turkey is bound to Europe by more than bridges over the Bosporus,” Obama told the Turkish parliament on Monday. “Centuries of shared history, culture and commerce bring you together. And Turkish membership would broaden and strengthen Europe’s foundation once more.”
It is a sentiment not universally shared in Europe. On Monday, a number of politicians, particularly in Germany, went on the offensive. “It is a meddling in the internal affairs of Europe,” Bernd Posselt, a member of the European Parliament from Bavarian’s conservative Christian Social Union (CSU), blustered in an interview with SPIEGEL ONLINE. “The EU is not Obama’s plaything. … He should accept Turkey as America’s 51st state instead,” he continued. …
Indeed, Sarkozy was quick to reject Obama’s support for Turkish EU membership. Speaking after the US president said in Prague on Sunday that membership for Turkey would “ensure we continue to anchor Turkey firmly in Europe,” Sarkozy said: “I have been working hand in hand with President Obama, but when it comes to the European Union it is up to member states … to decide.”

there’s such a thing as an “Eleanor Clift Fan”? – that’s too funny!!!!

Some appear to be living their own reality world(LA LA LAND). They read things that are not there. If they knew ANYTHING about German politics, he’d know that the views of a right wing CDU politician from Bavaria about President Obama carry as much weight as anything Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh has to say. The fact is…
AMERICA LOVES PRESIDENT OBAMA AND WELCOMES THE GREAT CHANGES HE IS MAKING! The polls don’t lie. Deal with it!

Barry is just another anti-American, apologist liberal who believes that the USA is the root of all evil throughout the world.
Barry is nothing more than jimmy carter with MUUUCH better marketing.

If they knew ANYTHING about German politics, he’d know that the views of a right wing CDU politician from Bavaria about President Obama carry as much weight
Posted by: leftyintexas | Apr 7, 2009 1:49:34 PM
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Gee I guess if you cherry pick your politicians and don’t include Merkel and Sarkozy you might have said something true, but they do count, like it or not. Read the whole article at Der Spiegel. Merkel struck out at Obama before he even arrived in Europe when she exclaimed that he would not dictate their finances and tell them to offer a stimulus.
IN fact polls do lie. CBS/NYT were just caught oversampling democrats, defying statistical acceptable standards. Why would they inflate his popularity if he were not in a downward trend right now. Maybe not in trouble yet, but certainly not moving in a direction that could be interpreted as positive.
So the CBS/NYT poll, along with the most recent Newsweek poll do lie.
The NYT numbers as they admit are:
Democrats – 39%
Republicans – 23%
Independents – 30%
This grossly underrepresents repbulicans by at least 8-10 percent.
If they had followed accepted standards Obama would have stayed the same or lost ground following his fabulous apology, get nothing back, euro tour.
So if he is doing so well, why do prominent liberal news organizations have to lie?

“The point is that Bush was called an idiot by the liberal media, as ALL republicans are, despite the fact that he never flunked out of lawschool like Al Gore, and he got higher grades then John Kerry did.”
He was an idiot.

The headline is misleading despite the explanatory note at the bottom (and who reads those?). Also, I recall Bush actually giving the Saudi king a kiss on the cheek at one time. Somehow a slight bow seems less, well, intimate, although we know that the Bushes had very intimate relations with the Saudis. Obama is not constantly apologizing for the actions or arrogance of the US. And yes, Bush and Cheney especially were arrogant. Remember Rumsfeld’s dismissive comments about old Europe.

“The NYT numbers as they admit are:
Democrats – 39%
Republicans – 23%
Independents – 30%
This grossly underrepresents repbulicans by at least 8-10 percent.”
Not really.
From last year:
In 5,566 interviews with registered voters conducted by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press during the first two months of 2008, 36% identify themselves as Democrats, and just 27% as Republicans
From the new Pew poll:
The Republicans, in particular, have lost quite a bit of support over the past several years; those persons who continue to identify as Republicans are a hardened — and very conservative — lot. Just 24 percent of voters identified as Republican when Pew conducted this survey in March, which is roughly as low as that total has ever gotten.

Paul Wall,
If Obama is not referring to Bush when he makes his critical comments and negative insinuations about American policy over the past eight years, who is he talking about? Bill Clinton?
Come on! Admit it, it is not very fitting or becoming of the president of the United States of America to come out with such petty and vindictive statements.
…Just watched Obama in Iraq on British TV. Don’t think he had his teleprompter, but instead was using 3×5 cards. Does this guy never say anything from the heart? Does everything have to be scripted for him?
When he told us that some Americans are arrogant (I presume he was implying Republicans), and then turned around and displayed indisputable arrogance in his disdain of European leaders over Turkey, does that mean that all Americans are arrogant?
He is not a very good advertisement for America!

Sorry About the Bush Years*
It really doesn’t matter if he used those exact words or not because they convey precisely what he meant, and every one knows it, and it’s an absolutely disgraceful way to treat a former president!

The Republicans, in particular, have lost quite a bit of support over the past several years; those persons who continue to identify as Republicans are a hardened — and very conservative — lot. Just 24 percent of voters identified as Republican when Pew conducted this survey in March, which is roughly as low as that total has ever gotten.
Posted by: Ryan C | Apr 7, 2009 2:27:50 PM
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Wrong. Republicans have been gaining ground. It is sampled daily, with robo, not personal calls that can influence results, using the highest of polling ethical standards, achieving a much more accurate result –because of daily not snapshot polling by Zogby and Rasmussen —and the republicans range anywhere from a low of 31. 7 percent to 34.8 percent. Times they are a changing.
While that does not equal the number of dems YET it does far exceed the sample of the NYT/CBS.
A poll is only as good as the polling standards utilized. While some people complain about Rasmussen because they prefer different results NO ONE has yet been able to attack their polling methods as they are of the highest standard.
Those that don’t like the results simply dismiss them as biased, but if that were so, and they were biased like the dem pollsters Obama would poll even lower and republicans would poll even higher.
Talking about last years poll is such a waste of time and only proves that you desperately want to deny the facts, just like CBS/NYT.

“yet the republicans are still the ones the media deems as “idiots”.”
Well truth hurts.
And apparently people are catching on since self identified Republicans are down to their lowest levels ever.
No one wants to admit they are Republican so as to associate themselves with Republican idiocy.

Oh oh the stock markets are dropping like a rock again ..obama must be on his way back to the USA. Why can’t he stay with the rest of the socialists and communists there in europe.

Paul UK—please do some research into american political history to find ample examples of presidents talking down about other presidents (i.e. Bush’s blaming Clinton for 911, EXPLICITLY). Obama was indeed referring to Bush’s policies in his speeches but never said “President Bush…” because he was speaking about poicies not personalities. US policy will be different and more engaging with Europe and the rest of the world. that the US acted high-and-might during Bush’s presidency is a fact (although i think it is more of an indictment against Rumsfeld, Cheney and Gonzalez rather than Rice or President Bush).
while you are feeling so sorry for President Bush and feeling his treatment is “disgraceful” perhaps you will remember your press and citizens speak disgracefully about the Queen and Prime Minister Blair ( a friend of Bush and Obama).

North Korea is testing long range missiles. Iran is funneling money through NY banks for nuclear weapons.

Well truth hurts.
And apparently people are catching on since self identified Republicans are down to their lowest levels ever.
No one wants to admit they are Republican so as to associate themselves with Republican idiocy.
Posted by: Ryan C | Apr 7, 2009 2:59:31 PM
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Wrong and wrong. Republicans, as I posted earlier are beginning to gain ground and dems are beginning to lose ground based on party identification. Admittedly dems are still ahead, but they are losing ground.
However when you have a president who has denigrated his predecessor and his country in a manner that is embarrassing and indefensible dems resort to lies and name calling as usual.
The point of this article is the shameful, slimy, self-aggrandizing attacks on the US by it’s President. What an embarrassment.
Obama is a weak empty suit and he is taking us down with him. Even N.Korea thumbed it’s nose at Obama’s weakness and empty oratory.
Still waiting for the big O’s stern response. Oh, wait, was that it?
N. Korean leaders are shaking in their boots, and let that be a lesson to Iran.
Obama hates his own country so much he not only won’t defend it, his faux empty posturing weakens our security.
Last time N. Korea did this we cut off access to their offshore accounts. Bush had the clout to get the UN and other countries to cooperate. They laugh at Obama.
But hey, they really, really like a guy they can wrap around their fingers while they rape the resources of the US, as Obama hands over control of our financial institutions to some euro board, in defiance of the declaration of independence.
They recognize Obama hates the US as much as they do, and they love Obama for that. Obama wants to make the US pay for imagined wrongs as much as the rest of the world, especially the mideast and europe does.

“Wrong and wrong. Republicans, as I posted earlier are beginning to gain ground and dems are beginning to lose ground based on party identification.”
Based on what?
The latest sample from Rasmussen?
Republicans were LOSING ground in that survey.

Isn;’t it time for Obama to stop campaigning and start leading?
Who are these idiots that think he’s doing a decent job?

TELEPROMPTER—every president since Eisenhower have used the telepromter extensively. “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall” (Reagan) was read from a telepromter as was “Ich bin ein Berliner” (Kennedy). if you’ve heard Reagan and Kennedy away from the telepromter they “umm” and “err” like Obama and Bush. these are linguistic fillers people use while speaking in situations when they don’t have pre-planned remarks. obviously all people have to think before they speak.
it’s stupid, childish and ignorant to use the telepromter as an indication of anything. some speeches are scripted, some aren’t.

just because you don’t agree with me doesn’t mean i am wrong. just because i don’t read what you read doesn’t mean that what i read is false. i’m sorry i don’t read Limbaugh or Politico. but there are many places to get information from.
and just because you believe in something doesn’t make it true. and just because i believe something doesn’t make it true.

Bush has been far mare gracious to barry O then he deserves. Barry has trashed W. and blamed him for everything wrong with the world right now, but I wonder why he also doesn’t mention that since Nov 4th, it has been the worst POST ELECTION sell-off of the market in history. That probably doesn’t fit in with his whole “smoke and mirrors gig he has going.
I guess the stock market can recognize an anti-American socialist far better then many of the lemmings on this post can.

but there are many places to get information from.
and just because you believe in something doesn’t make it true. and just because i believe something doesn’t make it true.
Posted by: Paul Wall | Apr 7, 2009 3:48:55 PM
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Really?
OK, I gave you a legitimate, neutral source for my claim. Politico. Obama has an unusual reliance on the teleprompter.
Lets hear you offer up one neutral source that claims all presidents use the teleprompter with the frequency and dependency of Obama.
Your opinion is not fact, back it up, I did.
By the way, you keep mentioning Limbaugh and I have to wonder why? I never mention him only because dems feel that discredits information however untrue that may be. So lets agree to leave him out of it as his opinions are not a part of my post.

Pew is a more respected polling org and they have GOP self IDs at 24% with Dem self ids at 36%.
Posted by: Ryan C | Apr 7, 2009 4:01:39 PM
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The Pew methods are less accurate than zogby and rasmussen which run a daily poll.
Snapshot polls have a much lower degree of reliability and the framing of the questions can affect the response. You have heard of “PUSH POLLS”.
I accept Rasmussen as most reliable and it’s polling methods and standards have never been questioned. A rolling poll, not push poll, being more accurate places the republicans almost ten points above your numbers.
We will have to disagree on this point.

Leftintexas
One could easily win the argument in court that barry O is the typical liberal who HATES America.
If barry O doesn’t hate America, then why has he surrounded himself with anti-American people his whole life?
In audacity of hope, which was titled after one of rev racist’s sermons- audacity of hope, barry said “in college i sought out the marxist professors”.
Really? When I was in college I was arguing with those traitorous fools.
And what about the whole rev wright lie he told us? When I was in church several years back the pastor said something that enraged me. I never went back to that church again. Barry on the other hand, lied about his knowlegdge of rev racist’s statements from the pulpit, had the man marry he and his wife, baptize his children -the relationship is solid for 20+ years. Barry refers to him as his best mentor MANY times throughout that 20 years.
Not to mention the fact that bill ayers gave barry O his political coming out part in the early 90′s. Any country loving American would not be in the same room as that terrorist traitor, but not barry.
Then there is of course michelle’s incredibly patriotic comments that she has never been proud of her country…

MNM says “In fact the polls do lie”. Oh really? Talk about cherry picking. I could take lessons from you pickers on the right. Gee I’ll just bet all those polls that gave Bush 27% job approval rating were lying too! And Cheney’s poll was so low that they’re still looking for it. I’ll bet that poll was lying too! And all those polls that showed the Democrats were more trusted to govern than the Repubs. were lying too? And now YOU say Americans don’t like President Obama even through ALL the polls say otherwise? Son, you are a little confused to say the least. Hahaha.

Dave, read my comments to MNM. They apply to you as well.

President Bush and his administration were the worst in American history. They damaged relationships with allies and inflamed our enemies to the extreme. Regardless of what some of our conservative friends say, the U.S. can’t go it alone. We are no longer the sole superpower in the world, able to throw our weight around to get what we want. And our superpower status is further threatened by a weak economy and tons of debt, all thanks to President Bush and the Republican controlled Senate of the past 8 years. No, Obama should not HAVE to apologize to the world, but our Republican friends have made it necessary.

I find it amusing to read the bush apologists trying to make their case against President Obama. The fact is America is “sorry for the Bush years” and righfully so. The President is moving at great speed to undo all the Bush screw-ups but it may take a while…say a second term perhaps. We can only HOPE…

Don’t worry Bugher, it’s not going to happen any time soon.

“but the ABC’s ‘The Path to 9-11’ docudrama clearly indicates that Clinton bears the most responsibility for what happened on 9/11.”
ROFLMAO!
You mean the film by Rush and David Horowitz flunky Cyrus Nowrasteh that he admitted taking dramatic license with?

The obamabots will continue to sing his praises even as he drives the stock market to 5000 (worst POST-ELECTION SELL-OFF in the history of the market). They do not understand why the housing market collapsed, which is why they lined up in droves to vote for change! change! change!
Little did they know that the whole spread the wealth around mentality of liberal polticians is what brought the housing market down in the first place.
It’s too bad that they didn’t spend more time reading history books. If they had, they just might realize that young/charismatic speakers don’t always do the best jobs at leading people. Just look at Germany, Cuba, Soviet Union, ect.
All their leaders promised change and that “change” led to some of the worst genocides/economic conditions in history.

“Bush’s fault, eh? And here I was thinking that a lot of this toxic debt originated from loans that banks gave to some sections of the population after being pressured to do so by enthusiastic young community organisers.”
Actually the failure of government oversight coupled with deregulation and good old fashioned greed are the reasons we are in this mess though right wingers like to blame poor people.
Even before the economic crisis we were looking at a ridiculously large national debt thanks in part to large budget deficits under Bush.

Oh, and good luck blaming the Dems for this mess. The polls don’t lie. The country blames the Republicans and rightfully so. They suck as evidenced by the election!

Ryan C
Do you honestly believe all those liberal talking points you insist on repeating?
The housing crisis is the direct result of liberal politicians’ spread the wealth around mentalities. Those idiots, along with charismatic community organizers, FORCED banks to lower their lending standards. This led to the poor getting loans they could NEVER pay back, and they greedy obtaining more then they could afford, too.
It was people like barney frank, chris dodd, chuck schumer, maxine waters, harry reid who FORCED the banks to give bad loans. Liberals are socialists, and apparently the stock market knows it better then you do.

Paul UK—you don’t contest my statement that President Bush explicitly criticized President Clinton and his adminitration. i don’t know what docudrama you are watching and could not possibly care less. i agree with you that both administrations (Clinton’s and Bush’s) are to blame for the leading up to 9/11 (Clinton, which he himself has admitted) and Bush (for entering into a war that was un-necessary and under false pretense [and please remember the US and UK did not go to war with Iraq to "save the Iraqi people" but because of Iraq supposedly having weapons of mass distruction: there was no concern about the welfare of the Iraqi people at that time, that was a ruse later risen after no weapons we found]). don’t you believe that if the US were in the war business to “save people” we would have invaded N. Korea, a nation, indesputedly, with the worst human rights record, followed by Zimbabwe (both non-oil-producing nations). so please skip using the “concern for human rights” and “Bush administration” in the same sentence. perhaps under your logic the US should emancipate and save the people of N. Korea while the UK takes care of the dying in Zimbabwe its former colony).
you failed to condemn the UK’s press treatment of Prime Minister Blair, a good friend of both President Bush and President Obama. but you are much more concerned with politics this side of the pond.
i do not think President Obama is artrogant at all. if he were a white president he would be considered “confident” but in america, as you may know being such a studies reader of US News probably know that when black presidents are confident or have self-esteem they are considered, pejoritively of course “arrogant.”
i applaud your concerns for human rights as i am involved with Human Rights Watch and follow UN trials which just sentenced the prime perpetrorot of the Rwandan genocide to life in prison (not well reported in US or UK news; after all who cares? i will support you in your support of “wars of liberation” when they have some genuine concern from human rights rather than trans-Atlantic political posturing.

Sheryl—yeah kissing and hugging from Bush. but Obama shows respect and is unamerican, socialist, a traitor? right wing thinking knows no logic.

Jill—President Bush’s change (initiated with Ronald Reagan [deregulation of financial institutions]) brought us this financial collapse. but it’s soooo easy to blame everything on a president who has not even served much more than 100 days. Obama was in law school when all your pals were deregulating financial institutions. he became a senator well after all the damage had been set in motion. but neverthless you blame Obama completely and the poor, the defenseless who were preyed upon institutions that were basically loan sharks. very classy.

RE: TOTUS. agreed Presidents since Eisenhower (or before) have used teleprompters. And that when speaking w/o all Presidents have used verbal fillers. I don’t know of any POTUS the has used a TelePrompTer for the most trivial photo-op events. Or used them to answer pre-canned questions from reporters at a press conference.
And I don’t think you want to into a comparrison of use of verbal fillers between Barry and past Presidents because I assure you it will be ugly. Barry downright stutters when his Teleprompter fails. He is figuritivly frozen. This man would fail an 8th grade speech class without his prompter. This wouldn’t keep getting written about if there wasn’t something there

i wouldn’t count my chickens before they hatch. especially with a popular president and a bunch of pathetic losers and haters in the other party which is in paralysis and pinning its hopes on anybody who doesn’t have the deer-in-the-headlights look. who’s it gonna be Palin, Jindal, Limbaugh?

“This wouldn’t keep getting written about if there wasn’t something there”
ROFLMAO!
How convenient.
Right wingers talking about the teleprompter incessantly then cite their own talk as evidence that its an issue.

Obama is a disgrace.

Let me give you a little “prompt” Mr. Obama: perhaps you should also apologize to all the Cuban Americans for JFK, to all Americans for Carter and perhaps, in the not-so-distant future, to all the world, for you.

Who is really calling the shots at the White House? It surely is not The One. He is nothing more than a marketing prop, a narcissistic empty suit devoid of any sense of pride in America’s history and what it means to be an American.
I told my dad before the election that it seems Obama has a chip on his shoulder. My opinion has been validated by the way he has conducted himself on this “apology tour” through Europe.
Where is his next campaign stop?

You guys think there is any chance Obama will apologize in advance for destroying our country financially through massive spending, borrowing and taxation? And for trying to limit constitutional rights? Or how about, now that he has weakened our security, he will apologize in advance for the next homeland attack? I say, not a chance in heck!

“Concerning the Obama bow to the Saudi king, the bow is not a sign of respect. It is a sign of submission and subservience to a superior. Intentionally or unintentionally, Obama just told the entire Muslim world he’s submissive to them.”
I leave it to right wing anti-Muslim lunatic Charles Johnson
Charles Johnson, whose blog, “Little Green Footballs,” is best known for its key role in uncovering the reporting flub by 60 Minutes that led to the ouster of legendary news anchor Dan Rather, provided a video showing Bush bowing before King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia to accept a medallion.
“More than a few people on the right are screaming that Barack Obama should be impeached for bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia,” Johnson wrote. “Those of you who are buying into this hyperventilating nonsense need to see this video.”

Re: “Concerning the Obama bow to the Saudi king, the bow is not a sign of respect. It is a sign of submission and subservience to a superior. Intentionally or unintentionally, Obama just told the entire Muslim world he’s submissive to them. HUGE mistake.”
I agree. Sadly, though, Dubya bowed to him too. Americans don’t bow to any king or queen! What’s going on? The Founding Fathers must be spinning in their graves.

Kennedy spoke all the time without a teleprompter. In fact, I seriously doubt he used one back then at all.
Reagan was an ACTOR who went senile. He’s the one who began using them extensively.
What’s Obama’s excuse? I can understand using them for big speeches like the State of the Union, but he uses them for everything–town hall meetings, press conferences. Doesn’t he know the issues?

Oh Yeah, Bring Back George W. Bush for 4 More Years !!!
Borderline Bull-Spit !!
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George W. Bush left this Country with …
[[15 Trillion Dollars of Debt]]
I Thought You Low Life’s are Concerned with…
[[Generational Debt]]
HYPOCRITE
Obama’s Spending Stimulus will not start until..
[[2010]]
I guess it does not matter if its a [[Republican President]]and a..
6 Year Majority Ruling [[Republican Senate & Congress]] Screwing up the Country and leaving …
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look i cant blame obama for relying on the telepromter you cant have your president out there looking dumb or stupid cause he cant talk really would you want him out there without it, um ah um oh and uh and oh and umm get real he has to use everyone can see that noone wants there president looking dumb
and another thing terrorism didnt start cause of bush look at the cole ,the barracks in lebanon all under clinton and he wasnt the first either its there because of israel is living on diputed territory maybe obama should appogize for that TOO

david reyes—hey man, don’t forget your hero Ronald Reagan. over 300 soldiers were killed in Lebanon on his watch. or were you not born yet?

Ken, after Bush kissed, hugged and held hands with the Saudi king, was that a good message to send the muslim world? perhaps we should hope for peace with muslim nations? muslims are people just like us.

“One person bowing to another, on the other hand, indicates subservience.”
So does that mean when Bush bowed to the Saudi King he was being subservient?
“That’s why Obama did not bow to Queen Elizabeth.”
Obama did bow to the Queen.

“Obama almost knelt in front of the king. At least that is what it looks like in the photographs I have seen.”
The bow gets lower and lower with each lying retelling by right wingers.
It was a quick bend at the waist.
Here’s Charles Johnson (right wingers who is no fan of Obama or the Saudis) on the hypocritical controversy
provided a video showing Bush bowing before King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia to accept a medallion.
(Click here to watch the video.)
“More than a few people on the right are screaming that Barack Obama should be impeached for bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia,” Johnson wrote. “Those of you who are buying into this hyperventilating nonsense need to see this video.”
Johnson said American presidents have long been kowtowing to the Saudi Arabian loyalty, and will continue to do so for as long as America is addicted to the country’s oil.
“Even Camille Paglia, who is no right-wing conservative, – in fact she is a registered Democrat – writing in Salon expresses her horror with Obama’s recent series of embarrassing gaffes”
ROFLMAO!
Camille Paglia is still miffed at Obama from the thumping of Hillary, cried about Palin and even dabbled in the some birther tin foil conspiracy theories.

“Apparently the WH is now saying that Obama didn’t bow after all.”
I suppose you are referring to this
“”It wasn’t a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he’s taller than King Abdullah,” said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.”
That aide is wrong.
With the many problems this country is facing, right wingers are focused on the debate of teleprompter vs notecard, protocol with royalty and a budget with no numbers.
2010 is gonna be a breeze.