President, Vice President Bask in ‘Specter’ of 60-Vote Majority Senate
ABC News’ Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report:
One of the newest members of the Democratic party, Sen. Arlen Specter of blue-trending Pennsylvania, appeared in the Diplomatic Reception Room of the White House with President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden this morning.
Specter, a Republican from 1966 until yesterday, recalled that as a Senator pursuing the Democratic presidential nomination, Mr. Obama approached him and said, “Tell me, Arlen, if a Jewish kid from Kansas can carry Pennsylvania, how can a black kid from Kansas carry Pennsylvania?”
"And I gave him some advice," Specter said to laughter, "and he became president of the United States of America."
"That’s how it worked," Mr. Obama said.
President Obama said he was "thrilled to have Arlen in the Democratic caucus."
With the likely arrival of Al Franken as a senator from Minnesota, Democrats will have a veto-proof majority in the Senate for the first time in 30 years, including two independent senators who overwhelmingly vote Democratic, Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Joe Lieberman of Connecticut.
White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs yesterday said that the word "ebullient" properly described the reaction in the White House to Specter’s announcement.
"I know the decision Senator Specter made yesterday wasn’t easy," President Obama said today. "It required long and careful consideration, and it required courage. But I know that it also reflects an independence that has been the hallmark of Arlen Specter’s career since the days he arrived in Washington.”
Mr. Obama said for this reason he doesn’t expect the Senator to agree with every decision that he makes, and suggested that Specter’s comfort in coming to the Democratic party reflects his own administration’s big tent approach.
“I don’t expect Arlen to be a rubber stamp," said the president. "I don’t expect any member of Congress to be a rubber stamp. In fact, I’d like to think that Arlen’s decision reflects a recognition that this administration is open to many different ideas and many different points of view; that we seek cooperation and common ground; and that in these 100 days we’ve begun to move this nation in the right direction.”
Specter’s decision appears to be grounded in basic math. The liberal Republican has been polling behind former Rep. Pat Toomey, R-Penn., among Keystone state Republicans. With more than 150,000 Republicans having re-registered as Democrats before the 2008 Pennsylvania Democratic primary, it was likely that many of Specter’s Republican supporters would have not been there to vote for him in the 2010 primary.
But with Gov. Ed Rendell, Sen. Bob Casey, D-Penn., and the president promising to clear the Democratic primary field for him if he switched parties, Specter’s chances of re-election significantly improved.
"I was unwilling to subject my 29-year record in the United States Senate to the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate," Specter said today. "But I am pleased to run in the primary on the Democratic ticket and am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers in a general election."
Calling two-time cancer survivor Specter “one tough hombre," the president said that the former Philadelphia district attorney will have his “full support in the Democratic primary” and that he is “confident the Senator will get a 6th term in the Senate."
Vice President Biden, who has been lobbying Specter to become a Democrat since he almost lost the GOP primary to Toomey in 2004, said that "Arlen Specter has been my friend and my confidant and my partner, and I his partner, in scores and scores of major, major pieces of legislation and issues for a long time. And beyond that, Mr. President, he’s been there for me every time things have been tough for me, and I hope I have been there for him."
Yesterday in Houston, as reported by the Houston Chronicle’s Alan Bernstein, Vice President Biden said he’s been Specter’s best friend in the senate for 33 years and has "been trying to remind Arlen that he is really Democrat… I have been working on that in earnest for the past four years and double time for the past 100 days."
Double-time increased to triple-time after Specter’s February vote for the stimulus package, which really aroused the wrath of conservatives. Since that vote, Vice President Biden met with Specter in person six times, and spoke with him on the phone an additional eight times.
Biden said this morning that "it gives me great pleasure, great pleasure, Mr. President, to now officially be in the same caucus with Arlen Specter. We’ve ridden the train for so many years, we’ve visited each other’s homes, our families,… it’s just a delight to have no separation." He welcomed "Arlen’s independence, integrity and piercing intellect" and called him "a man of immense personal courage and unmatched integrity."
Specter said that he has some different positions from the traditional position of the Democrats and will continue to exert his independence when necessary.
“I will not be an automatic 60th vote,” he said. But Specter twice repeated that he can be of assistance to the new administration.
"You have projected an administration that I feel very comfortable with," Specter said to president Obama.
The president said he was "grateful" that Specter was in the White House today. "And I’m also grateful that Joe Biden paid him a little attention on the train."
– Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
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Posted by: Angie in Pa | April 29, 2009, 10:44 am 10:44 am
I think you meant to say “filibuster proof majority”, Sunlen.
It still takes 66 votes to override a veto.
Posted by: Flash Override | April 29, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
“I don’t expect Arlen to be a rubber stamp,” said the president. “I don’t expect any member of Congress to be a rubber stamp. In fact, I’d like to think that Arlen’s decision reflects a recognition that this administration is open to many different ideas and many different points of view; that we seek cooperation and common ground; and that in these 100 days we’ve begun to move this nation in the right direction.”
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Yeah. This administration is open to many different ideas.
We’ll see if Specter meets a spending program he doesn’t like. This is more of a PR loss than a vote loss for the Republicans, and I’m holding out hope for the Blue Dogs to enforce some fiscal sanity.
This was a nice gift for Specter to give Obama for his 100th day, and I’m sure they were happy they could get him to announce it to break up the swine flue and scare force 1 news.
Posted by: MayBee | April 29, 2009, 10:45 am 10:45 am
This is a perfect example of lifers in congress who will do anything to stay in. These guys need to be voted out no matter what party. He only cares about himself and his special interests that line his pockets and his pals pockets. Is this not supposed to be the term of change? Change will not come with the lifers and old ways in both houses. Change is new people and new ways.
Posted by: Jim Rod | April 29, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Mr. Obama approached him and said, “Tell me, Arlen, if a Jewish kid from Kansas can carry Pennsylvania, how can a black kid from Kansas carry Pennsylvania?”
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Who is the black kid from Kansas being discussed here?
Posted by: mad | April 29, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
I don’t know why, but this administration reminds me of the Lord Aster quote, “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely…”
It’s time for Congressional term limits. These guys and gals need to learn what it is like outside of the Washington bubble and live for a while without Congressional perks.
Also, any national health plan needs to be applied to Congress, as well. They should be required to have the exact same health care they are trying to give us.
Posted by: Concerned | April 29, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
“This is a perfect example of lifers in congress who will do anything to stay in.”
This is a perfect example of why the Democratic party is dominating because they are the party of attraction while the GOP is shrinking because they are the party of repulsion.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Don’t matter, Specter never was really a Rep. anyway. At this point America is going down no matter what, if it isn’t the economy and bailouts the flu will get us all.
Posted by: CG | April 29, 2009, 11:02 am 11:02 am
mad- ha! From Kansas indeed.
Posted by: MayBee | April 29, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Do you ignore Biden’s remarks about reminding Specter he is really a democrat? Anyway, he’s all yours now. A man who will switch parties to save his senate seat, just a month after saying he wouldn’t, and blaming the GOP and not his own sorry hide for the defection, deserves to be in the democratic party. Just hope if he is re-elected, the republican party doesn’t recapture the majority. That seems to be where his loyalties and morals lie.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am
GOPers need to quit whining and saying nothing but “NO” and focus on making their party a valid and effective opposition party…
it is not good for anyone to have the GOP in total meltdown. We need an effective oppositon party in this democracy, and the GOP is light years from this at the moment.
Full of Palin/Plumber types….sad really
Posted by: indithinker | April 29, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Only a politician could spin what is clearly an attempt to survive politically into an act of personal conviction. He’s phony.
Posted by: LongT | April 29, 2009, 11:24 am 11:24 am
hey CG, how can you say that a Senator who voted 82% over his career with the GOP was not a real republican…that’s a higher figure than 70% of the current GOP senators.
Please explain your point here.
Posted by: indithinker | April 29, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
A fine reason not to trust any politician. However, I’m delighted that this ######## is out of the GOP. AS the US goes to hell, there is not a finger that can honestly be pointed at the Republicans.
Posted by: SureEnough08 | April 29, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am
hey CG, how can you say that a Senator who voted 82% over his career with the GOP was not a real republican…
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One problem is he voted with the Republicans when they overspent. Then people voted Republicans out of office for overspending, and voted in Dems who promised fiscal responsibility. The Republican party shrank and lost power because it spent too much and we are left with a smaller group of fiscal conservatives. Which you would *think* should be a popular stance.
Now the Democrats are the ones spending like crazy, and Specter is right along with them, criticizing the fiscal conservatives for pushing him out of office.
It is a world gone mad.
Posted by: MayBee | April 29, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
The Democratic majorities of thirty years ago weren’t sufficient to pass the Labor Law Reform Act, or to reverse the fascist Taft-Hartley Act.
Time will tell if they pass the Employee Free Choice Act, a much watered-down version of labor law reform, even with a majority who want it.
For the uninformed, the US has extremely employer friendly labor laws, ones no self-respecting democracy would tolerate. It is illegal for workers to use their most effective tactics, while allowing employers to threaten workers all they want.
Lets see how democratic the Democratic Party really is. The EFCA is pretty much the litmus test. If they fail that, they are worse than useless.
Posted by: Flash Override | April 29, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
GOPers need to quit whining and saying nothing but “NO” and focus on making their party a valid and effective opposition party…
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It doesn’t matter what the GOP says or does now. Democrats can now pass any legislation desired.
Posted by: mad | April 29, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
Another reminder that if you don’t stand like a robot with the far right BushGOP position, you are not wanted as a Republican. So be it. The Dem Party welcomes discussion and a healthy variety of viewpoints. But it’s not enough to finally have the power to get positive things done, it’s time to get those things done. Acquiring power is not an end, but a means to making America stronger and better and improving the quality of life for all Americans. It’s up to Dems to seize this historic opportunity.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | April 29, 2009, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Hey GOP, you think you are upset now? Just wait until your party grows even smaller in the next election. But don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll retain a few die-hard Confederate flag waiving right-wing nut jobs, but thats the beauty of living in a free country. George Bush and the the GOP have ruined this country. Arlen Specter, good for you. I’m glad to see you have the courage to leave the party of “no”. The Democrats represent the middle and lower class, and not the rich. Trickle-down economics is gone for good.
God bless America!
Posted by: Proud American | April 29, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Spector fits in with all the other turncoats and liars. Good riddance.
Posted by: enaid32444 | April 29, 2009, 11:41 am 11:41 am
Mad…I think at one time briefy obamablessed one lived with his grandparents in Kansas..and he identifies with whatever suits the moment.
Posted by: CG | April 29, 2009, 11:43 am 11:43 am
=========. I’m glad to see you have the courage to leave the party of “no”.========
Courage? You think what Specter did took courage? No, what Joe Lieberman did took courage. Standing on your convictions and still winning the election. Specter better hope the political climate is the same 18 months from now. Otherwise, his courage will really be tested. Nothing about what Specter did yesterday took courage. He left the minority to join the majority. Courage would have been to leave the majority to join the minority. Like Lieberman almost had to do when the democrats tried to toss him off committees because he stood by his vote on Iraq.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am
Obama has flown to Missouri today to tell us Washington needs to learn to only spend what they have.
Oh, this is rich indeed.
Posted by: MayBee | April 29, 2009, 11:45 am 11:45 am
CG,
Obama never lived in Kansas. Read his books.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 11:46 am 11:46 am
If the Democrats get the 60 vote supermajority it is very unlikely that they will come together for any organized agenda, but if they do overreach it would be the best thing that could happen for the Repubicans in 2010.
Posted by: GreggW | April 29, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
“Only a politician could spin what is clearly an attempt to survive politically into an act of personal conviction. He’s phony.”
It’s the GOP that’s phony, when it comes to working across the aisle. Specter is seen in PA as a right leaning, hard working honest senator and for that has been consistently rewarded with strong bipartisan support. When he tried to do his job and represent the views of the Democrats that supported him too he was almost shafted by the right-wing in the last primary. Democrats in PA thought they were nuts. Specter has decided to go with his real supporters instead of stubbornly sailing away over the right-wing horizon with the rest of the GOP.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 11:48 am 11:48 am
======When he tried to do his job and represent the views of the Democrats that supported him too he was almost shafted by the right-wing in the last primary. =======
Which is why the GOP went to battle for him and helped him keep the job as senator from Pennsylvania. Can’t wait until the midterms when all those ads of Specter, Bush, Rove, Santorum et al are used by the democratic challenger to Specter. He just spit in the face of all those in his own party that battled for him to hold that position 3 short years ago. Loyalty isn’t his strong suit, which the democrats should keep in mind.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am
Good for Specter. As others have said before, our first loyalty is to our country, not our party. It is obvious to all that the Republican Party is now the party of no. With all the troubles our country is facing we need new answers, not negativity or trying again what hasn’t worked many times before.
As for those who’ve complained numerous times about the spending package, try to see why it is needed. If our economy is a car that the previous administration allowed to run into a large ditch, a tow truck(spending plan) is necessary to pull the car out. Complaining about the towing bill being too high won’t help. Sitting in the ditch won’t get you anywhere either. Once the car is back on the road, with a more competent driver we can all move forward again.
Posted by: Lydia | April 29, 2009, 11:54 am 11:54 am
With more than 150,000 Republicans having re-registered as Democrats before the 2008 Pennsylvania Democratic primary.
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The Death Knell Is Imminent. Republicans are about to go the way of the dinosaurs. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch either .
Posted by: Dan | April 29, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am
people forget that el rushbo lead operation chaos to change voter registration and the success that it achieved will be experiened for decades while the sheep get their bailed out stimulus $2.
Posted by: joey | April 29, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
hopesprings52…..”The Dem Party welcome discussion and a healthy variety of viewpoints.” LOL…Please see comments above and below….”GOP’ers need to quit whining.”
“Republicans party of repulsion.”….
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Posted by: Parallax View | April 29, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Don’t matter, Specter never was really a Rep. anyway. At this point America is going down no matter what, if it isn’t the economy and bailouts the flu will get us all.
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You made the point of why so many moderates have left/are leaving the Republican Party. The party is not really a party anymore, but a far-right mindset and if you waiver from that fundamentalist mold, you are totally ostracized.
Posted by: Paige | April 29, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Obama’s almost 70 percent approval rating and Specter’s bombshell party switch are clearly referendums on the success and popularity of the president’s agenda.
It’s a good 100-day scorecard for POTUS.
Posted by: matt | April 29, 2009, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm
Obama in Missouri again is saying he wasn’t responsible for the deficit he “inherited”.
He voted on the spending when he was Senator, and voted for the biggest piece of that deficit. Someone needs to call him on that.
Posted by: MayBee | April 29, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
Everybody knows he did it because he was down 21% in the polls leading-up to the GOP primary for his seat. And he already admitted as-such. The sad truth is that this hack has spent three decades in the Senate, while accomplishing little.
Actually, I would vote for Phil Spector over Arlen- seems like a more stable and trustworthy individual, lol.
Just a little over a month ago, the Senator said in an interview that he wouldn’t switch parties due to the importance of checks and balances.
And back in 2001, Sen. Arlen Specter, then a Republican, proposed a rule forbidding party switches. Specter was upset when then-Vermont Sen. Jim Jeffords’ left the Republican Party to become an independent.
Who knows what the truth is with this guy, you’ll never get it from him.
With all due respect, Senator- don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out. Nobody on our side’s going to miss you.
Posted by: Reaganite Republican Resistance | April 29, 2009, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm
“Obama’s almost 70 percent approval rating and Specter’s bombshell party switch are clearly referendums on the success and popularity of the president’s agenda.”
As long as you don’t do any thinking at all, yes.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
=====The party is not really a party anymore, but a far-right mindset and if you waiver from that fundamentalist mold, you are totally ostracized.======
Y’all are kidding and I missed the joke. The democratic party is the party that refuses to allow anyone with opposing viewpoints. The democratic party is full of progressive liberals that run the party, the WH, and both houses of congress.
Specter was going to lose the midterm primary so he switched parties. If that makes y’all think the republican party is done, over, dead, I’ll remind you that the republicans thought the same thing about the democrats when they won in 2002 and 2004. Or maybe I won’t remind you and let you find out for yourself while you think you are safe in your belief that republicans, ie, conservatives, are done, over, dead. Check the newly elected senators and reps. They are mostly blue dogs. If they want to remain senators and reps, they won’t be voting the party line or the done, over and dead conservatives in their districts will vote them right back out.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
With all due respect, Senator- don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out. Nobody on our side’s going to miss you.
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Yes ,that’s a fine attitude. Presumably you Republicans will not be needing the big tent for awhile. As a matter of fact ,the doghouse sounds like an appropriate/suitable place for your next soiree.
Enjoy ,you deserve it!
Posted by: Biscuit | April 29, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
=====Specter was upset when then-Vermont Sen. Jim Jeffords’ left the Republican Party to become an independent. =====
That was then, this is now. When Jeffords left, he caused Specter to become a member of the minority. Specter leaving the minority to joint the majority explains his objections in 2001.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
***joint***
That was a typo but it kind of works for me in describing the democratic party.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
“Y’all are kidding and I missed the joke. The democratic party is the party that refuses to allow anyone with opposing viewpoints.”
You missed the first joke so you decided to tell one yourself? The Democratic party is the one with the ‘big tent’ remember? Their classic problem is that they fight amongst themselves too much and don’t march in lock-step like the Republicans tend to do.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Obama:
I won.
I have a gift.
I have no accountability.
Posted by: nick | April 29, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
“Y’all are kidding and I missed the joke. The democratic party is the party that refuses to allow anyone with opposing viewpoints. The democratic party is full of progressive liberals that run the party, the WH, and both houses of congress.”
While the progressive caucus is the single largest caucus in the Democratic Party, the conservative Blue Dog Coalition numbers about 50 in the House and the business friendly New Democrats have about the same in the House as well as a dozen Senators.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
“You made the point of why so many moderates have left/are leaving the Republican Party.”
Yup Party Boss Limabuagh called for a purge yesterday.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
Axey, you are right on one count. The Democrats have been pounded much worse and have come back. However, the newly elected aren’t the blue dogs, although it is true there are too many of them.
When the Democratic Party loses this momentum, it will be because they moved too far to the right.
Obama and Reid are to blame if they don’t pass EFCA.
It used to crack me up to hear GOP shills here write about how the democrats could pass whatever they wanted, as if they were going to impose the rigid ideological discipline that the GOP does.
Now, its just depressing, since the GOP shills are right.
The democrats pretend to be for working people, but only vote for EFCA when it has no chance of passing.
One corporate party
Posted by: Flash Override | April 29, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
The left loves Arlen as long as he votes Obama’s way.
They loved him after the stimulus bill
hated him when he said no to card check.
The left are fair-weather friends.
Enjoy them Arlen.
Posted by: tyler | April 29, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
“The Death Knell Is Imminent. Republicans are about to go the way of the dinosaurs. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch either .”
The obit is premature, though there are few positive signs for the GOP.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
He is a ‘miserable failure”. I give him a grade “F”. He has a ‘lack’ of inexpereince and leadership. So many things has happening here since he became President in office since Jan. 21st. He is the worse President in this history since former Pres. Carter. For example, he blamed former President Bush on swine flu. No, it is not Bush’s fault. It the Americans went down to Mexico for a vacation or business trip. When they returned home, some of them got sick and got the swine flu. That why we should close the border. The mainstream news media are trying to scare us. Obama and the Democratic Congress are just playing ‘politic’. And they are not doing their job for the American people. They like to keep on complaining and whiny everyday. It is just a waste of time. Mr. Specter is a loser. Glad he left the GOP and he will lose in 2010 as the Democratic. He should have retire long time ago.
Posted by: anonymous | April 29, 2009, 12:40 pm 12:40 pm
Lefties/Democrats are only tolerant when you agree with them.
They are some of the most intolerant and close-minded people you could ever meet.
Look at the venom spewed toward Hillary until she helped Obama.
And how they turned on Evan Bayh.
Hypocrites.
Posted by: millie | April 29, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
“The Death Knell Is Imminent. Republicans are about to go the way of the dinosaurs. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch either .”
Marked for future reference.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
Now the Democrats get all the credit and all the blame.
Looking at the past 100 days I think they are going to get blamed for a lot.
Good luck Arlen you are going to need it.
Posted by: meg | April 29, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
Specter went from the party of “NO” to the party of “No Accountability”.
Posted by: riley | April 29, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
tyler, EFCA is more than card check, which by the way is simply returning the law to what it was when it was passed in the 30′s.
The maximum criminal penalty for willfully violating a safety standard or regulation and causing a worker to die is six months in prison, while the maximum sentence for improperly hunting migratory birds is two years.
Killing a worker through willfully lax safety standards is a misdemeanor. OSHA under Bush didn’t even bother to collect half the fines.
Posted by: Flash Override | April 29, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
“I give him a grade “F”. He has a ‘lack’ of inexpereince and leadership.”
The stupid…it burns
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Barack Obama is one lucky guy. His acolytes do not question anything he does. They regard hyperactivity as accomplishment. Whatever Obama says passes as gospel. How good is that?
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
======You missed the first joke so you decided to tell one yourself? The Democratic party is the one with the ‘big tent’ remember? Their classic problem is that they fight amongst themselves too much and don’t march in lock-step like the Republicans tend to do. =====
The democratic party purges anyone that doesn’t toe the party line. Ask Joe Lieberman. Anyway, you see it your way, I’ll see it mine and I think they have already written a song along those lines.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
Arlen Specter admits that he switched parties simply to win an election. I am not sure that Obama really wants to celebrate this. I am not sure that this decision is “courageous”. It sounds just about as spineless as could be. Arlen will be sure to throw Obama under the bus when the political winds blow the other way. I would have to say that Obama has asked for it. Who’s kidding who here?
Posted by: Sean O'Brien | April 29, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
======While the progressive caucus is the single largest caucus in the Democratic Party, the conservative Blue Dog Coalition numbers about 50 in the House and the business friendly New Democrats have about the same in the House as well as a dozen Senators.=====
Which is why Pelosi says, wink, wink, nod, nod, vote against us, we have the votes anyway. They will continue to vote against her if they want to be re-elected in conservative districts.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
=====When the Democratic Party loses this momentum, it will be because they moved too far to the right. ======
Okey, dokey. Keep up the good work, then, moving your party further left.
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
“The democratic party purges anyone that doesn’t toe the party line. Ask Joe Lieberman.”
Joe was very naughty. But even then he didn’t get ‘purged’.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm
The Democratic Party has put all their eggs in one basket.
They have literally bet the bank on Obama.
Without him they are nothing.
And without his popularity he is nothing.
Once that fades the party will tumble.
Posted by: nick | April 29, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
====Joe was very naughty. But even then he didn’t get ‘purged’. ====
As I said elsewhere, Specter hasn’t really met Markos yet, has he?
Posted by: Axey | April 29, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
“Which is why Pelosi says, wink, wink, nod, nod, vote against us, we have the votes anyway. They will continue to vote against her if they want to be re-elected in conservative districts.”
Yes, the Blue Dogs are in an enviable position where they can buck the party line while not jeopardizing the party agenda.
Though they may want to be judicious in their independence as incumbents depend upon the party apparatus to get re-elected.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
With all due respect, Senator- don’t let the door hit your butt on the way out. Nobody on our side’s going to miss you.
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Yes ,that’s a fine attitude. Presumably you Republicans will not be needing the big tent for awhile. As a matter of fact ,the doghouse sounds like an appropriate/suitable place for your next soiree.
Enjoy ,you deserve it!
Posted by: Biscuit | April 29, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
“The democratic party is the party that refuses to allow anyone with opposing viewpoints. ”
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Not according to your leader..
Conservative host Rush Limbaugh said Tuesday he isn’t sorry to see Arlen Specter leave the GOP — and that many Republicans wish the Pennsylvania senator would take a few others with him when he goes.
“A lot of people say, ‘Well, Specter, take [Sen. John] McCain with you. And his daughter [Meghan]. Take McCain and his daughter with you if you’re gonna…” he told listeners, dissolving in laughter.
“…..It’s ultimately good. You’re weeding out people who aren’t really Republicans,” he said.
Posted by: Paige | April 29, 2009, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Funny how the Democrats are bragging about Specter.
He didn’t really want to be a Democrat but switched only because he couldn’t win as a Republican.
Wonder what they promised Arlen to make the switch on the 99th day. Hmmmmm
Posted by: carrie | April 29, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
All Arlen had to do to get love from Obama/Democrats was to agree to put our country in debt for a few generations.
He got a good deal.
Specter can vote for bills that he doesn’t even have to read.
Posted by: ross | April 29, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
“Barack Obama is one lucky guy. His acolytes do not question anything he does. They regard hyperactivity as accomplishment. Whatever Obama says passes as gospel…”
You’re exaggerating.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
“‘I don’t expect Arlen to be a rubber stamp,’ said the president,” as he held Specter’s wrinkly manhood in his hand. But I do expect Arlen to see things a little more clearly, um, differently (Sorry, go ahead. Move it up… *waiting for teleprompter*) after Rahm spends a few minutes with him explainin’ what we expect. “‘Tis a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.”
Posted by: Ruh-Oh | April 29, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
He didn’t really want to be a Democrat but switched only because he couldn’t win as a Republican.
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I understand he is:
Pro-Choice
Supportive of Gays
Supportive of Unions
In favor of science being taught not creationism
In favor of stem cell research
Take a look at what the extremist lobbying groups are doing to hold up various nominations, what came out at CPAC alone and see if he fits in anymore with the right-wingers. They think he’s going to hell.
Posted by: Paige | April 29, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Just wait until Specter finds out what the dems will require of him! But come to think of it, that probably won’t bother him as long as he gets to keep a seat. Arlen, word to the wise, when they start shooting politically, remember to “serpentine”.
Posted by: LongT | April 29, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Politics! Only a politician could spin what is clearly an act of political survival into an act of personal conviction.
Posted by: LongT | April 29, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
I bet Specter is actually a Republican spy sent to infiltrate the Dems and report back to Rush Limbaugh. Very Lost like.
But honestly I would have thought this was a good move until he said he did it because he would get elected as a repub.
Posted by: Scott | April 29, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
I keep hearing about Specter making it a veto-proof Senate – remember, we’re talking about Democrats here. Unlike the repubs who follow the party line and talking points memos, getting Dems to follow is like herding cats. While I’m happy to make it 60, I certainly am not counting on “veto proof.” And Carrie – if you really don’t understand why Arlen switched – just listen to M Steele for a while.
Posted by: MaryE | April 29, 2009, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
I’m not sure what he calls himself now really matters. He has already established a voting record that does not follow party lines. He could possibly enjoy the role of the “spoiler”. I would advise the dems to not count their chickens before they hatch.
Posted by: LongT | April 29, 2009, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
drjohn – sure obama’s agenda is succeeding but is that what we really want?? Change is a comin’. and what is up with a president that scoffs at people protesting peacefully and letting this administration know they do not agree with what is going on in Washington?
Posted by: mj | April 29, 2009, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm
lydia – please explain to me how saving and endangered bird in california and a skate park, and condoms to Africa really stimulate the economy???
Posted by: mj | April 29, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
A warning for Arlen…
There are rich people that tell the Democrats what to do.
Obama flips and twists himself into a pretzel just to follow their orders.
They will own you Arlen like they own Obama.
Posted by: max | April 29, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Scott has a valid point! If Specter could not win as a Republican, why wouldn’t they want him to stay as a Democrat? He’s so old now, there’s not much to gain by just following the Democratic herd. This is going to be interesting!
Posted by: LongT | April 29, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
“You’re exaggerating.”
Not hardly.
The guy badmouths the US all over the world while defending himself, claims he is about fiscal discipline and yet is going to run deficits out the wazoo forever, is not guarding TARP fund usage, wants to nationalize health care, is nationalizing the auto industry and banks. He is waging war on energy producers which will raise the energy costs to all. He’s making massive budget cuts amounting to .0029% and his followers think he’s wonderful. He promised to end earmarks and signed 4500 of them into law. He promised no lobbyists in his administration.
Hyperactivity is not the same as accomplishment.
Not one follower questions any of it. They buy into what he says, and they either will not or cannot analyze what he actually does.
Brain dead cultists.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
“I keep hearing about Specter making it a veto-proof Senate – remember, we’re talking about Democrats here.”
While your point about Democratic unit (HA!) is a good one, I must be a stick in the mud and correct you about veto-proof vs fillibuster-proof.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 1:38 pm 1:38 pm
“sure obama’s agenda is succeeding but is that what we really want??”
Not me!
This is a guy who claimed he would “bring us together” and then about the first words out of his mouth were “I won.”
He has refused ANY kind of compromise with Republicans and then whines that they’re not supporting him.
Obama’s idea of bipartisanship is that everyone does what he wants.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm
“This is a guy who claimed he would “bring us together” and then about the first words out of his mouth were “I won.”
He has refused ANY kind of compromise with Republicans and then whines that they’re not supporting him.”
Someone is whining alright and its not Obama.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) led the GOP’s unanimous opposition to the $787 billion stimulus, blasting the inclusion of $8 billion for mass transit projects.
At the time, he took aim at the possible use of some cash for a Vegas-to-Disneyland mag-lev light rail project.
During a March 15 appearance on “Meet the Press,” Cantor said: “Over the last 50 days, we have passed the stimulus bill … you’ve got that train from Disneyland to Las Vegas, you have, you know, you have other things like the, the money that goes to remove pig, pig odor.”
Alas, the Richmond Times-Dispatch is now reporting that Cantor joined a group of local officials lobbying to direct greater federal funding toward a planned Richmond-to-Washington 110-mph train that would cut the travel time between the two capitals to 45 minutes.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm
“Not one follower questions any of it. They buy into what he says, and they either will not or cannot analyze what he actually does.”
Well I certainly do. The trouble is that there is an amazing dearth of real alternatives coming from Obama’s right-wing detractors. That budget proposal, for example, was a joke and you know it. We need real alternative ideas not critical calisthenics.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
The economy shrank by 6% in the first quarter. That means the economy has to grow 6% in each of the next three quarters just to come close to the $1.8 trillion deficit for this year. It’s going to be much worse than that.
Obama’s projections are and were way off. I told you once already that static analyses always fail.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
“Someone is whining alright and its not Obama.”
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan. My daughter could do better than this.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
“Well I certainly do.”
I would carved out all those earmarks.
Are you FOR trillion dollar deficits, Skip?
How many of those do you think we can sustain without a major currency devaluation?
How much inflation are you willing to tolerate? It’s going to be up there.
It cracks me up to see comparisons of Obama to FDR. It’s ridiculous. At least FDR made people work for their money. Obama just keeps shoveling it out there with no demand for return. He is captivated by control through dependency. The only people who have to be accountable are those of us who have conducted ourselves properly all along.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
“A battle over control of the party’s purse strings has erupted at the troubled Republican National Committee, with defenders of Chairman Michael S. Steele accusing dissident RNC members of trying to “embarrass and neuter” the party’s new leader.
Randy Pullen, the RNC’s elected treasurer, former RNC General Counsel David Norcross and three other former top RNC officers have presented Mr. Steele with a resolution, calling for a new set of checks and balances on the chairman’s power to dole out money.”
Its the Moonie Times so take it with a huge grain of salt.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm
In January 2009, just as former President George W. Bush was leaving office, the Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll found that 31 percent of Americans viewed him somewhat or very positively. In their latest poll, positive views of Bush have dropped to just 26 percent. In roughly the same time period, positive views of former Vice President Cheney dropped from 21 percent to 18 percent.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm
FACT IS, SPECTOR KNOWS THAT THE CHENEY’S BOYS IN THE GOP AND CIA ARE PLANNING ANOTHER GOP LED JFK STYLE COUP D’ETAT AND HE WANTS OUT, NOW.
HE WAS THERE FOR THE FIRST ONE AND HE KNOWS ANOTHER HORRIBLE PRESIDENTIAL ASSASSINATION WILL KILL OUR GREAT NATION…
Posted by: CHUCK | April 29, 2009, 2:22 pm 2:22 pm
“How much inflation are you willing to tolerate? It’s going to be up there.”
I think there is risk involved in the stimulus plan. For it to succeed the economy has to turn around before inflation sets in. If it works the Democrats are going to be heroes, if it doesn’t you get to say ‘I told you so’.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
The only “change” that has happened is that we are now a democratic society and the democrats will eat the country alive.
Posted by: jill | April 29, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
“brain dead cultists”
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Pretty much describes the GOP as the party blindly follows leader Rush Limbaugh on the road to destruction.
Posted by: EdDoc80 | April 29, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Specter? The swine flew.
Posted by: JD | April 29, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
That Specter Moth.. just couldn’t resist the allure of the flame.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | April 29, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
“WASHINGTON (AP) — The Federal Reserve said Wednesday it sees signs the recession is easing and that the U.S. economic outlook has “improved modestly” since last month.”
Skip
If this is true, do you know what it means?
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
If the GOP wants to be viable in the near future, they need to reach out to the middle, to minorities, to the Log Cabin Republicans. If the party remains in the death-grip of the Limbaugh-Lovers and Hannity-Handjobs, recovering seats in the midterm election is doomed. Case in point: I recently watched an HBO documentary which followed the McCain campaign. They filmed rallies, parades, town hall meetings at churches, school appearances, sporting events, NASCAR events, etc. I was struck, repeatedly, by the virtual total lack of any black faces, brown faces, Asian faces anywhere in any of the footage. If the GOP is appealing only to white, NASCAR, gun loving right wingers, the party will lose.
Posted by: EdDoc80 | April 29, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Now drjohn will elighten us all on why the glass is half empty.
Posted by: EdDoc80 | April 29, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
DR JOHN
It Means the Republicans are out of Power the Dems are In power and Therefore the Economy Is getting Better!
Posted by: Angie in Pa | April 29, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
I can’t figure out why democrats care if republicans eat their own or become the party of no. Enjoy it. And Specter. Really enjoy Specter. He is now your problem, not ours and since both sides are happy about it (for the most part, anyway) let’s all rejoice together! This was a win-win for both sides.
For a party in power, the democrats sure are het up about getting republicans to vote with them. You don’t need us. Remember? Just pass whatever the hell you want and stop with the bipartisan bs. As Obama said, “I won”. To which I say, you sure did. Now pony up to the bar and own it and stop trying to pass the tab around to republicans.
Posted by: Sue | April 29, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
“I was struck, repeatedly, by the virtual total lack of any black faces, brown faces, Asian faces anywhere in any of the footage.”
Exit polls have the following percentages for Obama
African Americans: 95%
Hispanics: 67%
Asians: 62%
Other: 66%
Gallup just put out demo groups for Obama’s job approval
African Americans: 96%
Hispanic 85%
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
When “clearing” the democratic field for Spector, what do they do with the otherwise loyal democrat man or woman that would have opposed Spector or Toomey?
Posted by: david | April 29, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
I can’t figure out why democrats care if republicans eat their own or become the party of no.
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Isn’t is obvious? Do you not read the news? Republicans themselves are the ones clamoring for bipartisanship ,not the Democrats.
Don’t worry Sue , the Democrats are putting the Republican Party on ignore for the next 3.5 years (at least) .
We’ll take all the credit if the economy goes up and we will be sure to have the statistics on hand from the last 8 years of conniving/bungling to show why that is not our fault.
note: I love Factcheck because it killed the Republican party and the lie machine it had become ,indeed it did!
THANK YOU FACTCHECK!!
G’BYE Republican party!!
Posted by: Lib Driver | April 29, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
“When “clearing” the democratic field for Spector, what do they do with the otherwise loyal democrat man or woman that would have opposed Spector or Toomey?”
Chris Matthews was out already.
Torsella was backed by Rendell but that will change.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 3:45 pm 3:45 pm
Sue, both sides are not happy about it.. Your party is pretending to be happy about it to save face. We are not stupid, this is a major blow to the republican party, and you, Rush, Steele and no one else can make us believe otherwise…
Posted by: Obamaall theway | April 29, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Some of these old politicians should not only be put out to pasture.. they should reconsider issuing them a driver’s license.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | April 29, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
“Your party is pretending to be happy about it to save face”
My party may be but I’m not. He is now the problem of the democratic party and I couldn’t be happier.
“We’ll take all the credit if the economy goes up and we will be sure to have the statistics on hand from the last 8 years of conniving/bungling to show why that is not our fault.”
You did this anyway, why is now different?
Posted by: Sue | April 29, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
No Angie,
What it would mean (and I am no means sure it’s true yet) is that the economy is healing on its own.
Only $107 billion of the “stimulus” package is being spent this year, and pitifully little on anything that could mean jobs. As the money only started to flow at all on April 1, it means none of the so-called stimulus could have an effect.
It would mean the “stimulus” package was unncessary spending.
Actually, it is unncessary spending. Most of it is simply welfare expenditures.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
“We’ll take all the credit if the economy goes up and we will be sure to have the statistics on hand from the last 8 years of conniving/bungling to show why that is not our fault.”
Cute, but not in touch with reality. The economy did really well through 2006 and only tanked when Democrats took over Congress.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
It begins!
From The Hill:
“Several Democrats are furious with Reid for agreeing to let Specter keep the seniority accrued over more than 28 years as a Republican senator. That could allow him to leap past senior Democrats on powerful panels – including the Appropriations and Judiciary committees.”
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
“President, Vice President Bask in ‘Specter’ of 60-Vote Majority Senate”
……but, we can still blame the Republicans for whatever goes wrong, can’t we??
Posted by: I Have a Gift, Harry | April 29, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
“Several Democrats are furious with Reid for agreeing to let Specter keep the seniority accrued over more than 28 years as a Republican senator. That could allow him to leap past senior Democrats on powerful panels – including the Appropriations and Judiciary committees”
What at terrible problem to have….why I much rather have my party run by a talk show host with a figurehead running the RNC.
Posted by: Ryan C | April 29, 2009, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
drjohn,
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Now, we really don’t want him back when he doesn’t get those coveted chairs he was after.
Posted by: Sue | April 29, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
“What it would mean (and I am no means sure it’s true yet) is that the economy is healing on its own.”
Well if that is true then the deficits may not go as high as you fear, if the Democrats keep their word and start paying them down as soon as we can afford to.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
“Well if that is true then the deficits may not go as high as you fear, if the Democrats keep their word and start paying them down as soon as we can afford to.”
OK, but what do you think the odds are that Democrats won’t spend the money?
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
“Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Now, we really don’t want him back when he doesn’t get those coveted chairs he was after.”
I agree. The glitter will wear off Spector quickly, even for Dem’s.
I almost feel sorry for them.
Almost.
Posted by: drjohn | April 29, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
“OK, but what do you think the odds are that Democrats won’t spend the money?”
I’ll grant you that: I wouldn’t bet the farm that they don’t. I’m well aware of my party’s weaknesses and am not afraid to admit them. I think that they won’t however because if they do they will lose the support of the moderates.
Posted by: Skip | April 29, 2009, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
I’m glad he switched, he’s been Democrat all these years anyway.
Posted by: j | April 29, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
“That why I like our President He likes to Be Challenged and Surrond Himself with People who will Challenge Him and Point out If he is Wrong what a Great Change from a My Way or Highway!” What a bunch of Hoowey!
Posted by: LongT | April 30, 2009, 9:57 am 9:57 am
The GOP core believe they need to be more right wing to attract voters. However, the voters have recognzed the inherent contradictions in their arguments.
Less government…however they promote more government survallince of communications, more government tracking through the Real ID, more govermenet in our reproductive rights.
this is not more freedom and less government. The GOP and their contractions will put them into permanenet minority status. This is from a former rebuplican, college republican, fund raiser and supporter. NNo more!
Posted by: scott jeffries | April 30, 2009, 11:06 am 11:06 am
Americans grew tired of being thought to be dumb by the rest of the world, so they went to the polls and removed all doubt.”
Posted by: Swine too | April 30, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am
The die is cast for at least the next 18 months. Fellow Republicans, accept reality and take it. However start NOW to correct the balance of power in the house and Senate, in the up coming elections. Don’t take the bait from the victory drunk democrats, who are acting like the citizen French after the revoluation, hungery for revenge.
PO said it last night, and how right he was – “nothing is ever as bad as it seems, and nothing is as good as it seems”
Posted by: ZZ | April 30, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm