Apr 18, 2009 4:49pm
Sales Soar of Book Chavez Gave Obama
Just after Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez gave President Obama a present this morning of a book that criticizes the role of the United States in Latin America – "Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent" by Uruguayan author Eduardo Galeano — its Amazon sales rank was No. 54,295.
Just a few minutes ago it was No. 20.
- Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller
UPDATE: At 4:54 pm EDT – rank is #17.
UPDATE: At 5:42 pm EST – rank is #14.
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President Obama Tops Mitt Romney in New Poll
Romney on a Roll
Sort of like a Vote For Pedro movement.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | April 18, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
wonder when he will be on Oprah?
Posted by: Breaking News | April 18, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
OPEN VEINS OF LATIN AMERICAN: Sounds like a Hispanic heroin expose. The subtitle is even more curious: “Five Centuries of the Pillage of the Continent”- Wait a minute! Is that another drug reference- i.e. “pills”. O.K. he meant to say …”pillaging the continent”. Finally, “Five Centuries”- So the score is Spain, Brazil, Church-410. US-90
Posted by: B. Bear | April 18, 2009, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Chavez is desparate for publicity. At least, his choice of book gifts to U.S. presidents has improved. He reportedly gave “W”-MY PET GOAT.
Posted by: R.Wood | April 18, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
He reportedly gave “W”-MY PET GOAT.
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I thought it was something with more of a latin beat like “Chicka Chicka Boom Boom”
Posted by: Thinking | April 18, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
It will make a great movie. Hope it stars Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie as Barack and Michelle and Tom Cruise as Chavez. Maybe Streisand can direct.
Posted by: jackie | April 18, 2009, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm
It will be interesting to see who Obama re-gifts it to. Hopefully the Queen isn’t coming to the Whitehouse any time soon!
Posted by: Jeffrey | April 18, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I’ve been trying to figure out this Tea Party hubbub and I think I have it. People went to the rallies thinking they were about “No Texas” instead of “No Taxes”, Perry’s secession speak confused them. Frankly, if I thought it was “No Texas” I would have gone too.
Posted by: JR | April 18, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
America’s Imperialism, especially in the past, have spread far and wide throughout this hemisphere, albeit most of it sponsored by multi-national corporations. Therefore, I would say that our hands are as bloody as any Conquistador or European vanguard. The book given to Obama as a gift speaks to the truth.
Posted by: Jake | April 18, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Obama probably gave him a signed copy of one of his book. You know the one that described his cocaine use and how he was never thrown in jail.
Posted by: Ben | April 18, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
Oh lets make it go to number 1.
Leave me out of it. Instead of Galeano, I should rather get a couple of bottles of Gallo’s Boone Farm. Instead of this old re-tread tripe, perhaps some fresh menudo.
Posted by: robert b | April 18, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
i just bought the book! Obama is great for everything, including book sales!
President Obama is fantastic for promoting a positive and smart USA image abroad!
Posted by: judy | April 18, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
To JR:
Over 3.5 million Texans voted for Obama, more than any other state other than New York and California. There are a lot of progressives in Texas.
If you do not support all 50 states of OUR UNION and are going to be anti-American then perhaps YOU should move to another country.
Posted by: Leah | April 18, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Was the book hateful of the U.S.? If so, you know who is going to up late reading it in one night (I’ll give you a hint: it sounds like “mahell”)
Posted by: JLB | April 18, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Excellent book.
Excellent message that Obama will probably ignore. He thinks America is god’s (a being that does not exist) to the world.
Posted by: Brian | April 18, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Sean Penn would be a good choice to play Obama in the Hugo Chavez movie.
Penn admires Chavez and Obama.
Even though they both oppose gay marriage.
Something Penn tries to forget.
Posted by: nick | April 18, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
I wonder if Obama let Sasha and Malia pick out the gift to give to Chavez?
A picture of Bo perhaps?
Much better than 25 DVD’s.
Posted by: ricky | April 18, 2009, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm
Brian you left out something “gift” while unnecessarily explaining your atheism, and Obama didn’t say that and neither did Bush. Bush was fond of saying that “The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”
To conclude, I would actually say that Obama thinks HE is God’s gift to the world. Now that’s funny.
Posted by: robert b | April 18, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
VERY much like a Vote for Pedro movement. The more the corporate press bashes Chavez, the more people like him.
Posted by: Flash Override | April 18, 2009, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm
I’m not naive to the point that America is “perfect”. And we need to stop acting as if we are. People make up our great country, but I’ve never met a perfect person, have you. Read our history…or just go back 40 years. Is America perfect yet?
Posted by: sngeorgia | April 18, 2009, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
Why is it so difficult to
imagine that the book might be
useful to read?
What is wrong with learning
something?
What is wrong with listening
to another person’s point of
view?
Why do we think we don’t have
to listen to other people?
Posted by: Dave | April 18, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
“President Obama is fantastic for promoting a positive and smart USA image abroad!”
Half my family lives in Italy and Greece. We discuss current events all the time through email and phone calls. They fear for us.
Posted by: Nikolas | April 18, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
It is actually a pretty good book
Posted by: IOF | April 18, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
I’m very impressed with you right wingers who are ready to comment on a book you not only haven’t read, but hadn’t even heard of until now. Impressed with your ignorance and arrogance, that is.
I’ll admit I have not yet read “Open Veins,” but I have read several articles and four other book by Galeano, including his “Memory of Fire” trilogy, a brilliant history of the Americas. I’m very pleased with the news in Tapper’s dispatch. American readers, including our president, can learn a lot from Eduardo Galeano.
By the way, the book is now up to #14 on Amazon.
Posted by: Union Guy | April 18, 2009, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm
A great book, “A People’s History of the United States”
Posted by: timothy Lynch | April 18, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
it’s actually a fantastic book.
if people read it, they would learn a lot about what the real meaning of America is.
Posted by: Marcos | April 18, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Love the 4 Questions sent by Dave at 7:15 today. If you love doing a Quiz, these 4 questions are good fun, we’re just working our way through them….
:)
And then there is Jeffery’s comment about your President re-gifting the book and hoping that the Queen would’nt be stopping by any time soon, had us in stitches….
Did’nt know this post-a-comment thing could be so much fun. That too on a Saturday!!
:)
However, on another note, the thing to remember is that of all Nations, the U.S. & Americans are the most loved, but somehow end up being the curtain behind which Old Europeans hide, hid….
Posted by: HelloFunnyWorld | April 18, 2009, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
This book is just another “been there done, said that” of Noam Choamsky, nothing new, the same old stale arguments of imperialism. I guess Obama read it in Columbia for his political science class
Posted by: Bill | April 18, 2009, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
@Nikolas
Is your last name by any chance Berlusconi?
Anyway, most of us non-American world citizens appreciate the change that has happened on Pennsylvania Avenue. Obama is not without flaws, nobody is, but he is sharper than most of our own current leaders. And a lot sharper than Bush. And Chavez.
Posted by: Dane | April 18, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Jake, have you read the book? if not, aren’t you being a little too confident in declaring that it is a book that criticizes the role of US in LA? whatever happened to knowing what you are writing about before giving such a short summary of it
Posted by: Question | April 18, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
P.S. ~
We just bought the book too. Guess it’s going to the top.
Posted by: HelloFunnyWorld | April 18, 2009, 8:26 pm 8:26 pm
To Bill, who posted a comment at 8:14pm, today:
Hi Bill,
Just a thought: Even “the same old stale arguments of imperialism”, which may be “nothing new” – as you put it – do still leave consequences, results, y’know…. Harm. Sometimes even grievous Harm that stays a while, messes everything up and takes time & energy to fix, to put right…. yes, eh….??
:)
Posted by: HelloFunnyWorld | April 18, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Sorry lefties, #1 and #2 spots are by us right wingers. I do hope you might pass #10 the zombie version of Pride and Prejudice, really!!
Posted by: robert b | April 18, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
HelloFunnyWorld
“results, y’know…. Harm. Sometimes even grievous Harm” Point taken, but sometimes everyone has a grievance on the past and ride on these as excuses for current failures. Some countries in central America have great issues of corruption, nepotism and racism, big time.
We cannot keep riding on Uncle Sams neck with imperialism. Its like reparations, I agree with Obama, getting the best education and working hard is the best pay back rather than chasing some compensation for issues of 19th century.
Posted by: Bill | April 18, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Read “Legacy of Ashes: A History of the CIA” and then tell me criticism of US intervention in Central and South America is not completely deserved.
Posted by: jim | April 18, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
“…issues of the 19th century”?
Bill, imperialism isn’t ancient history. Nixon and Kissinger orchestrated the bloody coup that overthrew Salvador Allende, elected president of Chile, in 1973. The Dulles brothers organized the military overthrow of Guatemala’s elected government in 1954. In the 1980s Reagan funded contras and death squads that kept blood flowing through the streets of Central America.
And every American who loses their job when a multinational corporation moves operations to Mumbai or Mexico or China, for cheaper labor, is a victim of imperialism, too.
Posted by: Union Guy | April 18, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
This gift needs some context…”The Open Veins of Latin America” was the guide for a generation of Latin American youth and intellectuals for understanding the world. Although some of the facts of the book have been discredited, the worldview remains important to understanding how many view us. BTW Galeano’s newer book “Upside down: A primer for the looking-glass world” is far better and a fine work: poetry mixed with social critique.
Posted by: traveller | April 18, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
Hello Bill,
Thank you for your reply. Duly noted. And you are right on all counts:
(1) using past situations as excuses when one fails – that does happen and (2) continually blaming Americans & the U.S. for Imperialism – ditto. It happens. A lot. And (3) a good education & hard work could be the answer.
However, most of our problems, whether due to Race, Religion; Money; Law; the Economy; Capitalism and the links between all that and Equality in Practice – All our problems in the World today, seem to be of the man made variety. No acts of God. No accidents of nature. Not really.
And so, everyone wants, if not a place at the table where the rules are made, then at least, honest and sincere representation at that table and guess
talking to each other properly, is the first step…. right??
Yes…. No…. Maybe..??
____
And a P.S. to Robert B posting at 8:42pm – Jake says he has rules. Just like in Kindergarten.
Specifically: no knocking Jane Austen and definitely, no name calling. No, not even “lefties”. As much as you may like the word.
:)
Posted by: HelloFunnyWorld | April 18, 2009, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
What the heck is Soros going to do with all those books?
Maybe Oprah bought up a bunch to give away at one of her shows.
This reminds me of when Scientologists would (still?) ship L.Ron Hubbard books to bookstores, they say they never ordered them, send them back and the Scientologists count those books as ‘sold’.
Posted by: RR GOP | April 18, 2009, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
It is actually a great book, and many Americans should read it.
Posted by: ThatOne | April 18, 2009, 10:57 pm 10:57 pm
Traveller, I don’t think “context” makes the “gift” any better– in fact it makes it worse. The gift was designed to be outrageous, as Chavez always is, and to be insulting. For people to compound the insult by making the book a bestseller is just plain sad. It’s a work the specialists at State need to have a working knowledge of, not a work that the general public needs to rush out and read to understand our south american neighbors.
I was pleased to see that the president was noncommittal when asked if he would actually read the book.
Posted by: moderate | April 18, 2009, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm
People dissing this book obviously have not read it. Galeano’s book is a CLASSIC and Obama is intellectual enough to appreciate it. Good pick, Mr. Chavez.
Posted by: Perla | April 18, 2009, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
It’s now at #7 on Amazon (9 PM PDT), and it’s still moving up.
Posted by: Laylahb | April 19, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am
It’s a great book. I still have the copy I read in college 25 years ago. The course was ‘Revolutionary Literature in Latin America’. The Reaganite fanatics in the class were in constant state of freak out. Very Funny.
Posted by: Michael7843853 | April 19, 2009, 12:29 am 12:29 am
We did not take the time to understand other countries point of view during the bush years. Maybe Chavez gave Obama the book in hopes that he would at least try to understand Latin America’s point of view.
Posted by: kate | April 19, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am
I haven’t read the book but it does sound like a practical gift, considering the circumstances. Anytime you can get Americans past Taco Bell ads when they think of Latin America, it’s a good thing.
Posted by: Dema | April 19, 2009, 1:06 am 1:06 am
There is nothing so ignorant as someone so afraid of an opposing point of view that he shuns written words to understand it. This book is important, not because it changes our point of view, but because of how it assists us understand the prism through which others see us. It’s even more valuable than listening because it tells us the thesis that informs the roots of our quarrels with Latin America. I have no doubt Obama will read the book within a month.
Posted by: Axl | April 19, 2009, 1:38 am 1:38 am
It is pathetic! To buy the book from Amazon because the of the Chavez tell him what to read? Because of the sales went soar? Who wanted to buy it? I wouldn’t. Amazon is just playing ‘politic’.
Posted by: anonymous | April 19, 2009, 5:34 am 5:34 am
That book must be so negative to read it. I wouldn’t buy this book.
Posted by: anonymous | April 19, 2009, 5:43 am 5:43 am
The book is written in Spanish. And it is a ‘scary’ book to read. I wouldn’t buy it.
Posted by: anonymous | April 19, 2009, 5:55 am 5:55 am
Where’s the surprise? The USA has used Latin America as its doormat for centuries and before that England, Spain and Portugal, leaving behind a legacy of slavery, poverty and the sound of resources being sucked out of it. I’m sure President Obama is already well aware of this history. Nevertheless, I will check this book out of the library when the opportunity arises in a few months when all the muck has been raked.
Posted by: Hell's Kitchen Working Class Guy | April 19, 2009, 8:17 am 8:17 am
this is a must read book for every american who is not afraid of knowing the truculent history of U.S. (but also spanish and british) domination and exploitation of latin america. it may be hard at the beginning but at the end the reader will overcome the orwellian maxime that “ignorance is strenght”!
Posted by: peteRed | April 19, 2009, 8:42 am 8:42 am
well, we americans have much to be ashamed of. whats that you say, we weren’t around 5 centuries ago? oh…. ah…… nevermind. the thing is the current nitwit we have as president will read it, and apologize for something we didn’t do. again. he’s like the french, who never forgave us for winning ww2.
Posted by: jim | April 19, 2009, 9:28 am 9:28 am
Yes, I remember when he suggested to Bush I believe to read Hegemony of Power by Noam Chomsky. He has great taste in books and this will probably be very informative of what shoes he is walking in.
Chavez has earned his popularity in Venezuela. Considering he is in a fight to keep corruption at bay, and the CIA and oil companies from the control of his country and people, perhaps I could understand his desire to keep things like term limits as reasons to surrender to the colonizing and dehumanizing effects of the global elite. His people would elect him and term limits are only necessary if everybody in Venezuela votes they are.
He hasn’t done any action that the Venezuelan people haven’t supported in fair elections. Because…hint, hint for Republicans…he EARNS their support by working for THEM! Go figure why he’s Republican enemy #1.
Posted by: Richard | April 19, 2009, 9:57 am 9:57 am
There is and has always been a small
segment of the american people willing
to look at the truths of the past.
Unfortunately, a larger segement would
have difficulty locating South America
on a map.. and have no interest in any
demands for justice.
Posted by: w bradford | April 19, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am
I can see that Jim misses having a president whose reading list did not extend beyond “My Pet Goat.”
But don’t worry Jim, your own beliefs will remain secure as long as you continue to refuse to read anything that might threaten you blissful ignorance.
Posted by: Union Guy | April 19, 2009, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Democratis donors at work!
They gave Obama several million this way too!
BTW, for a guy who believes in spreding your wealth around, he sure didn’t spread much of his around.
Posted by: drjohn | April 19, 2009, 10:27 am 10:27 am
The book at Amazon sales rank is at nos. 2. It is pathetic! I wouldn’t buy this book because it about the Latin American countries bashing USA. It is written in Spanish. It is a negative book.
Posted by: anonymous | April 19, 2009, 10:46 am 10:46 am
Anonymous won’t read the book because he/she already knows what it says, and also because “it is written in Spanish,” which, as we all know, is Satan’s native tongue. My, you are a genius!
By the way, it’s been translated into English for 37 years, and the edition people are buying on Amazon is in English. But you don’t really want to know that, or anything else, do you? You only want to read books by right-wing talk radio gasbags — because, lord knows, those books are never “negative.”
Pathetic indeed.
Posted by: Union Guy | April 19, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
It is about time americans wake up to the facts what their government is up to, not only in Latinamerica but the rest of the world. Another american exposed the facts, John Perkins, The economic-hit man, the horrors of american policy of manipulation, assassination, toppling governments, serving the corporations to exploit others nation, etc. Yes, wake up people and stop the pretenses your government serve you…nay! serve the corporations and the industrial military complex.
Posted by: Art | April 19, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
to union guy,,,, just to set the record straight i do not believe that our current nitwit is any worse then our previous nitwit.[bush]. outside of that nothing i say will convince you of my position and nothing you say will convince me of yours. the difference in our positions is that overall i believe our country is good, and you see only the bad. you know, i once had a book printed in 1933 that listed mussolini as one of the greatest men of all time. my point is anyone can write anything, it doesn’t make it true. and by the way, i voted for obama, but so far i’m underwhelmed by him,,,, but he still has time to get off the ‘nitwit list’.
Posted by: jim | April 19, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Obama is not any more a man of religion than George Bush. Claiming to be Christian is a political requirement in this nation if one seeks elected office. But we already know politicians are frauds. President Obama is seeking plenty of good photo ops to bolster his popularity. He will have many battles with Congress where he will need the support of the American People.
Before the American People lend their support, they should examine the former Constitutional law professors positions on Bagram Prison in Afghanistan, Patriot Act wiretap authority, prosecuting CIA torture war crimes, increased drone attacks on Pakistan and banking system bailouts. One will find only deference to the Bush administration policies.
The high number of high level appointees from failed financial institutions and Wallstreet insiders working in his administration is disturbing. So is their influence. Treasury is a revolving door for Wallstreet, administration after administration.
Our government is beholding to large corporate and indutrial interests. Insurance, Banking, Finance and Energy are just few of the players. This is not Democracy.
Posted by: Anubis | April 19, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
“People dissing this book obviously have not read it. Galeano’s book is a CLASSIC”…amongst Communists…
Posted by: RR GOP | April 19, 2009, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm
When I first heard that Chavez gave a book to Obama, I thought, “Wouldn’t it be great if it were ‘The Open Veins of Latin America’”?
For over three decades I’ve said that book should be required reading in all our schools. For many it will be an ice-cold dip into the Reality of the History of this hemisphere. The book outlines 500 years of economic and political history of the region, product by product, country by country.
How many of you realize that Watt’s steam engine (and with it, Britain’s “industrial revolution”) would not have occurred when it did without the financing of precious metals that broken and discarded Indians were forced to dig out of this hemisphere’s mines?
I spent over a decade living in Latin America, and that book was the present I gave to all my friends when I came home.
Not at all about “America-bashing”, it deals with Reality, a concept not so popular with many folks like Union Guy who seem to prefer to base their ideas on heresay and prejudice.
Posted by: alank | April 19, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
I am enjoying reading the comments from the ‘right’ here……. especially the ones that indicate all of Obama’s ‘shortcomings’ and ‘mistakes’.
It’s very reassuring to see that their disappointment stems from Obama not curing all the problems of the U.S. and the world in 3 months…. the standards for U.S. presidents should be very high, and it’s correct that the ‘right’ holds Obama to these standards.
Unfortunate that they don’t hold their own political party to the same standards,
It’s also unfortunate that the republican cacophony for the ‘my country right or wrong’ mantra seems so dead set against reading or learning anything from history, simply due to the source not being written by an American, or having a positive view of America.
In other words, if a book doesn’t compliment the U.S., and bow to the usual American self perception and mythology, it shouldn’t be read. One would think that to better understand the world and differing political ideologies, understanding how ‘they’ think would be mandatory.
Seems this is not the case for many here, .. better to have not read a source of information and simply be uninformed.. just make stuff up and call it fact,…very Taliban like..
Posted by: not a revisionist | April 19, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Jim, at 9:28 a.m. you wrote: “well, we americans have much to be ashamed of. whats that you say, we weren’t around 5 centuries ago?”
Latin America’s history includes 300+ years of colonialism, enslavement. mass murder and exploitation by Spain and Portugal. No sooner had they fought for and gained their independence, than the U.S. began interfering, invading, and overthrowing their governments, generally so U.S. business interests could exploit their resources and people.
The difference between you and me is that, seeing the harm our government and corporations have done to our own people, I don’t take it personally when people from other countries complain of what U.S. rulers have done to them, and I’m open to hearing their point of view. Judging from the rise in the Amazon sales ranking of Galeano’s book, a lot of other Americans are as well.
Posted by: Union Guy | April 19, 2009, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm
alank writes: “Not at all about “America-bashing”, it deals with Reality, a concept not so popular with many folks like Union Guy who seem to prefer to base their ideas on heresay and prejudice.”
What are you talking about? All my posts here have been in favor of Galeano. Do you realize that a person’s name appears UNDER their post, not above it?
Union Guy
Posted by: Union Guy | April 19, 2009, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm
Are they gonna update every time the rank changes? LOL.
Posted by: Mikey | April 19, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Will read this book.
Posted by: yoli | April 19, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
It’s now #2.
Posted by: Union Guy | April 19, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
To Jim: America isn’t a bad country and we do plenty of good in the world. But we have done some shady things in the past and have dealt with some less than desirable individuals. I think that sometimes, you have to look at yourself and say, “What was my role in this? Was some of this somehow my fault?” Most people don’t want to do that though, and would rather see the United States as this all benevolent country. Things have been done for the better interest for our country, that may not have been in the best interest for others. It’s just a fact.
Posted by: CobaltBlue | April 19, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Great – maybe some people will finally get a clue about why we are so hated. Let’s face it for all we’ve done, the ‘good’ things notwithstanding – we as a country deserve to be looked at as criminals. That’s how we’ve acted for a long time.
Posted by: the dave | April 19, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
well, union guy,,,,,,,,sorry took a nap and i must say you proved my point, you see the bad, i see the good [in america]. i am willing to discuss the bad as a citizen with another citizen in private. i am not going to overseas and apologize to others in public. let spain and portugal apologize for their part. we are the greatest country ever, if you don’t like it take your union card and leave. and by the way if people like me[moderate]and others from the right don’t vote for obama he wouldn’t have won. now if he goes too far to the left he will be another jimmy carter[4 and out],if he is a pragmitist he gets 8 years. after 2 years clinton had to move to the center and became a pretty good president.my people came to america about 110 years ago[from ireland] so i don’t apologize for whatever america did, we found freedom here.the british subjected my people to unspeakable things. the far left thinks it somehow matters that our country apologize, well let me tell you i am a baby boomer and i saw what the far left did in the 60s, they were wrong then. then they went into business and education to indoctrinate my children that america was bad, and in business ruin our economy, so they are wrong today too. [do you think bernie madoff ever voted for a republican?]. 30%of our people will always vote for a reublican and 30% will vote always for a democrat, its the 40% in the middle that decide things so learn to live with us, because if you don’t we won’t let you govern.
Posted by: jim | April 19, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Union Guy-
Point taken, mea culpa.
It’s 500+years of exploitation by many: add England, Holland as well as all the Vatican proxies: the pope “gave” half of South America to Spain and half to Portugal — with all those millions who already lived there — how nice! The US just picked up when the others left off.
You can understand how some folks would not like to hear about (much less admit to) such goings on. No amount of prayer or blessing could overcome the guilt generated by such a past.
Posted by: alank | April 19, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
I just bought this book, and I am looking forward to learning more about Latin America. I think as a whole, we are too ignorant about the history of our own continent and our own hemisphere.
Posted by: Carol | April 19, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
jim:
America would be a great deal better off if it would have taken many of Carter’s policies to heart……. Reagan was elected, and then he supported and armed Saddam, with that famous pix of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam.
It’s interesting that you consider an open policy discussion with the rest of the world, ‘apologizing’.
re: “so i don’t apologize for whatever america did, we found freedom here. the british subjected my people to unspeakable things.”
and most of the new Americans revisited that oppression you mention by participating in slavery and killing native americans.
re: ” i am a baby boomer and i saw what the far left did in the 60s”
well, why don’t you tell everyone what you think the ‘far left’ did in the 60′s….
Posted by: Mr. Tony | April 19, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
jim
re: ” if you don’t like it take your union card and leave. and by the way if people like me[moderate]”
yes indeed, your position represents true ‘moderation’…. LOL
Posted by: Mr. Tony | April 19, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
mr.tony…….. just so you know it was the british and the french that killed most of the native americans, by the time americans got involved there were not many left. and by the time my people escaped the british it was long over, so none of it was my fault, nor was slavery. both things were[are]repulsive to me. the french and british laced blankets with smallpox killing most of the indians, and my people in ireland were starved and their farms and homes confiscated.i’m old enough to remember some of americas mistakes yet young enough to know that what is written in the history books is wrong. history has nothing to do with what happened, its just ‘his story’, so go on, mr.tony, believe what you want, i tell you i’m a moderate and you doubt me. who cares? the far left and the far right will be the undoing of our country. who will write the history then? probably the chinese.i hope you are young so you see the end, i’m not young and will be dead when the end comes.
Posted by: jim | April 19, 2009, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Everything Obama touches turns to gold.
Yes we can!!!
Posted by: Omentum | April 19, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
How come all these people around the world always brang up what the USA has done to other countries. Like what we did to Latin America. Well, what about what the Spanish did to the Incas and Aztecs, I heard it’s kind of hard to find any of those people.
Posted by: K. Hayes | April 19, 2009, 8:03 pm 8:03 pm
brang
Posted by: Omentum | April 19, 2009, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
mr.tony…. you must not have been alive when jimmy carter was president, 17% interest rates, oil shortages,20%inflation, the hostage crisis in iran etc….. yeah he was a great president. even bill clinton dispised him. now i don’t doubt the man’s inherent goodness, but my god, he was perhaps our worst president ever. what ideas did he have that were not installed? he had a democratic house and senate, why couldn’t he get it done?he was an idealist, which is ok if your a college professor, but not a president.a good man?perhaps. a good president?laughable.
Posted by: jim | April 19, 2009, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
Some people in america like to still read what is relavent. GREAT!
Posted by: jess | April 19, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
That’s the Obama touch!!!
Posted by: GBO | April 19, 2009, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
I read the book. It’s worth reading it, although I don’t agree with Galeano point of you. I’m from Argentina, and I think that if we want to progress is not with resentment.
Posted by: Andrus | April 19, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
I wanted to say point of view (not you)
Posted by: Andrus | April 19, 2009, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm
The book is actually about how developed countries became so developed – DRAINING latin america’s gold, silver and other minerals from the “New World”, building cities to make profits as fast as possible instead of developing it, killing the regional crops to grow what was valuable for the foreign market, etc etc etc.
It’s not just about the United States but a lot about Europe in general and specially Spain, Netherlands, France and other traditional colonizers.
A must read book to understand how some countries are so rich and others so poor. Poor countries were actually the richest ones but learned too late how to do business in a world called JUNGLE.
Posted by: Marcela | April 19, 2009, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
To understand the present is important to learn about the past. Americans (from US) don’t know about the history of the Americas. At least, this will make people have an idea of what happened to our countries and then with an open mind will learn why there are Chavez, Castros and Morales in Latin America nowadays.
Posted by: Gaston | April 19, 2009, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
I think Bill and Bernardine already gave him this book.
Posted by: RL in Illinois | April 19, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
jim:
so according to you, Carter was directly responsible for all of that?
we might be about the same age if you were born in the early 50′s…..
too bad no one adopted his energy policies, you must have forgotten how much Reagan increased the deficit, supported Iran, Savings & Loan collapse,
re; “i tell you i’m a moderate and you doubt me..”
your love America or leave it sentiment hardly seems moderate.
again, how much better we wouls be now, if Carter’s national energy policy that included conservation, price control, and new technology would have been continued..
while it is true that his last year in office was difficult… to blame Carter for oil shortages and resultant economic problems across America is a shallow argument, ……
and, as much as you like to quote history, to blame Carter for the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, without also giving the history of American involvement with the Shah long before Carter as causative factors , is also shallow…
Posted by: Mr. Tony | April 20, 2009, 12:54 am 12:54 am
jim:
re: ‘he’s like the french, who never forgave us for winning ww2.’
-about ‘The French’…
I have a friend who’s father died in France in WW2, defending a small ‘in the middle of nowhere’ type town…. I ‘ won’t get into all the details, but “The French’ of that town searched for my friend over 60 years later, and flew him over to France, where after arriving at that town, all of ‘The French’ of that town honored my friend and expressed their deep gratitude for his father’s sacrifice.
It’s very easy to use ‘historical’ reference to qualify and ‘justify’ your opinions, but without the details …… making a generalizations about ‘The French’ makes you seem like the folks who were ranting about ‘freedom fries’ not too long ago.
Posted by: Mr. Tony | April 20, 2009, 1:11 am 1:11 am
mr.tony….. if you hold reagan responsible fot the 80′s can i not hold carter responsible for the late 70′s? you seem to judge them by different standards. and with a democratic controlled house and senate carter couldn’t get his agenda passed. see, its not what you wanted to do that you are judged, its what you did.and carter left us worse off then he found us. as far as i’m concerned we have not had even one ‘good’president in my lifetime[born1949].one[lbj] stuck me in vietnam because i was poor, and allowed middle-class and wealthy kids to get a draft deferment.[what was up with that?].nixon was, well, nixon. ford was a caretaker, carter was ineffective, reagan ushered in greed, bush 1 was out of touch, clinton could have been good, [but was selfish]bush 2 was a disaster.thus we find ourselves in the mess we are in today. a whole series of bad to mediocre presidents got us here.as for the french, their government is what i was refering to. the people in paris are like the people in new york, and i would hate for america to be judged by that standard. the french in the countryside, particulary in normandy, are lovely.i am a social liberal,i think the government should help the poor, the disabled,the hungry. but i have been all over the world, and despite our failings i know this is the place with the most opportunity and the best of countries. and while i am prepared to debate another citizen in private and admit we are not always right, i am not willing to apologize to the japanese for hiroshima [as obama did]or slavery[which clinton did]or allow the ‘draft dodgers’ back in the country[as carter did']or pardon nixon[as ford did']or make blacks a permanent underclass[as lbj did']. you see sometimes things look good but turn out bad, and thats what a president gets judged on, how did things turn out,the road to hell is paved with good intentions. by the way, i am a black man.proud that our country elected a black man. but he will not succeed by running us down to not only our allies but our enimies. i want him to be a good president, so do you, i want him to do it with honor, you don’t. there is no honor in appeasement.
Posted by: jim | April 20, 2009, 5:31 am 5:31 am
The best book ever wrote about latino-america.
The subtitle does not exist in the spanish version.
Posted by: Dul | April 20, 2009, 11:12 am 11:12 am
jim:
re: you seem to judge them by different standards”
I’m glad you got my point about how easy it is to lump events in a time period together and blame any president, and certainly some Presidents are certainly worse than others,… of course to me, the recent Bush remains in a class by himself.
re: ” i want him to be a good president, so do you, i want him to do it with honor, you don’t. there is no honor in appeasement.”
I would disagree with you that candid historical discussions by an American president with the rest of the world is somehow ‘appeasement’ and ‘without honor’ or ‘runs down the country’.
As to doing everything with ‘honor’ .. that word like ‘truth’ has a way of having a different meaning depending on one’s political slant..
Taliban blows up schools for ‘honor’, women in some countries are murdered for family ‘honor’………
same thing with the word ‘appeasement’,…
Obama is certainly not doing what is known as ‘appeasement’ from WW2 : the foreign policy of British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain towards Nazi Germany between 1937 and 1939.
re: “you see sometimes things look good but turn out bad, and thats what a president gets judged on, how did things turn out,the road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
you can use that same approach to see what a country has done historically,.. I am less concerned about Pres. Obama political speeches around the world than you seem to be……… I don’t view them as a threat to America…….. and I do not believe that the ‘honor’ of America is some how being lost by America coming to grips with it’s past, good and bad…… to me, it’s THAT kind of political strength and character that is ‘honorable’.
Posted by: Mr. Tony | April 20, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am