Texas Governor: Texans May Want to Secede From the Union

I am hoping they do because Nebraska is right behind them.

Finally, a place people with white hoods can call home.

Don’t let the door hit ‘cha…

Didn’t we fight a war over this a while ago? Now those in the “party of Lincoln” want to leave the Union. Good luck with that.

Go Ahead Bye Bye keep Bush with you One more thing god for bid a Katrina Like hurracane should hit you Dont ask for Help!

What level of immaturity – because my guy is not in the White House, I want out.
Hurry up – Leave quickly, this will be very interesting and while they at it- People look at them now “Country First”
Keep exposing your reason for coming into politics – Perphaps all Politicians have to be enrolled in Politics 101.
I am an Independent but I am outraged as to how narrow minded a lot of these politicians are. Using political offices for personal gains. Can we have an investigation into what happened in the last 8 years.

Perry is a moron and he’s kicked a hornet’s nest with this one. Most Texans (including myself) are Americans First, Texans Second.

So LBJ “Mr. Great Society welfare/warfare statist of the ’60′s” who brought us civil rights is a “queer”? You MUST have been “educated” in a public school.

If you believe the federal government is violating the 10th ammendment, go to court. There is no provision in the constitution for a state to leave the union.

Nothing in Texas but “steers and queers” anyway…. perfect place for EVERY Republican on earth to relocate to …..
Posted by: Levi | Apr 16, 2009 2:14:32 PM
Levi, HAVE YOU SEEN PIPER?????

Anybody else notice how quiet the repubs have been about the stock market lately?

Texas is a great state which is why voters will wipe Gov. Perry off the political map next year voting in Kay Bailey Hutchinson as Governor.
Texas will be a swing state in 2016. Perry just dug the Republicans in a deeper hole with his shenanigans. The RNC has to be cringing!

good luck with that. Texas would be taken over by Mexican drug lords within a day…

I say “Texas – go for it and good riddance”

Perry is an idiot!!! Why would Texas secede? Mexico would love that!!!!

Rick Perry pandering to the Rightwing Puppy Kickers, just telling them what they want to hear!

I can see it now. Texas secedes, followed by Alaska and a few others. War protests break out on the National Mall with chants of “They Took Our Oil, Let’s Go To War”. I would place bets on Texas surviving without the USA, than the USA surviving without Texas.

Secession is a form of tyranny/treason AGAINST the US Government – something Perry should think about on his way to prison…. I had the misfortune of living in that crime-ridden state, with gun carrying racist and the most religious intolerant people you could ever imagine… Let them secede and see how far they will get on their own with the next hurricane or with educating all the illegal immigrant children in their public schools without government help! Bye – don’t let the taxpayer’s door kick you in the backside on your way to being your own country…

Bob – Please, by all means, if that’s the way you feel about our President, go with God, and leave this country so that you won’t have to be so miserable as to spew such a hateful e-mail. No one should be that unhappy. And no one will care if you do. I’m sure there are much better places in the world for you.

Great news. Take all the neo-cons from the rest of the country with you.

What so hypocritical about Perry’s comments is he just asked for FEMA help with the 199 wildfires we had in our state as well as hurricane relief and planning.

Sounds like a great way to get rid of bush, cowboys, and a lot of other trash. Maybe all redneck rush-listening hicks can go there.

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists and Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950′s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let’s just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way. Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes. We don’t like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU. Since you hate guns and war, we’ll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donnell.
We’ll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We’ll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEO’s and rednecks. We’ll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we’ll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we’ll help provide them security.
We’ll keep our Judeo-Christian values… You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U. N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.
We’ll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors we’ll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We’ll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I’m sure you’ll be happy to substitute Imagine, I’d Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.
We’ll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we’ll keep our history, our name and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I’ll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.

I am a resident of Texas and I have lived her for approximately 16 months. I am embarassed that this moron is our Governor. What a joke !! All of my fellow Texas residents, let’s get rid of clowns like Perry and Cornyn ASAP!!

This Texas dude is a real doofus. Most of us have concerns or issues with the present tax system, but to jump ship from the Union….LOLOLOLOL. Yes, take a look at WRONG TURN….what a dumb and hopeless, even more so, state texas (that is with a little t) would be in. Again, LOLOLOLOL!

It is amazing how quickly all of you are to judge an entire state’s worth of people all because one politican’s big mouth.
Y’all have a right to say what you want, but maybe you should consider focusing your anger on the idiot that said it instead criticizing the people that have to put up with him and his policies in our everyday lives.
And in case you’re wondering… no, I did not vote for the half-wit.

Kay Bailey 2010!!

and the people of texas keep voting this idiot in office if texas does secede we can change the name too taxs.

Gov. Perry won reelection in 2006 with 39% of the vote in a four way race. He is hot air. Don’t worry about him. He has an uphill battle in 2010.

“It is amazing how quickly all of you are to judge an entire state’s worth of people all because one politican’s big mouth.”
It’s amazing how quickly you are to judge an entire thread’s worth of poster all because of a handful of poster’s big mouths. ;)

I believe he has forgotten that the agreement of 1845 was modified once Texas re-upped for statehood as part of Reconstruction. I believe, at best, Texas can only split itself into 4-5 smaller states, not secede completely. Either way, it doesn’t really matter. It didn’t work before and it won’t now. He’s just taking his toy guns out and popping snap caps before the election. The guy is an embarrassment. Let’s focus on his fishiness with TXDOT…

Texas Governor: Texans May Want to Secede From the Union …… okay if you take George Bush with you.

You people crack me up. Someone on here was talking about The Civil War being about Texas seceding the Union…do your homework it was about slavery you idiot. Oh and Lincoln abolished slavery…he wasn’t for it. (Jeff) Oh yeah…steers and queers…we won’t even get into that one; We ride our horses to work too. (again do your homework) Repubs quiet about the stock market…look what your awesome Democratic president is doing…not so easy there is it? They just keep throwing money at it, driving up inflation (better idea right?) Oh and the provision about Texas seceding is not in the constitution you idiots, it was an agreement between Texas and the US when we were inducted into the Union. Not all of us believe this, but you criticize every Texan for one man’s words. It amazes me how so many people are uneducated about…life. Get over it.

it’s time for no parties or another one because every event in the universe seems to attributed to the Republicans or Democrats somehow? How about we just accept the election is over and some are happy and some are not…..either way, we are taxed to much and corporate America is screwing Americans every way we can. the power of our nation is the voice of the people. Don’t thwart that or we are doomed….remember the Roman Empire, the most dominant country(entity) ever[600 years] whosde demise was casued by exactly that…..

Finally a place where a border wall is called for, we could make our own Gaza Strip out of Texass.

Rick Perry was never my favorite…but he is now!!

Let’s see, what will we miss from Texas……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………

Judging by the comments from the people from Texas on this thread, it seems that they aren’t too happy with the statments made by this nitwit.

……………………………………………………………..still thinkiing…………………………….

First Bush, now Perry… I love Texas but we sure do elect idiots.
Bill White will be the next Governor!

I was born and raised in Texas. I am not a hick, a gun toting cowboy, a racist, an idiot or a Christian. And I am starting to think that we should take our jobs, our oil and our diversified economy and tell the rest of the country to shove it!

Somebody mentioned something about the republicans being mighty quiet about the dow lately. I’ve noticed this also. Currently it’s up 115.

Just think Texas, if you secede, you could make Bush your sovereign ruler, hell, maybe you could get Cheney to crawl down from Wyoming and be Queen.

Judging by the comments from the people from Texas on this thread, it seems that they aren’t too happy with the statments made by this nitwit.
Posted by: ClairLA
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You mean all three of them? That’s because people that support Perry and Texas Soveriegnty aren’t inclined to read anything on ABC news. Just saying…

Q: Doesn’t the Texas Constitution reserve the right of Texas to secede?
A: No such provision is found in the current Texas Constitution (adopted in 1876) or the terms of annexation.
However, it does state (in Article 1, Section 1) that “Texas is a free and independent State, subject only to the Constitution of the United States…” (note that it does not state “…subject to the President of the United States…” or “…subject to the Congress of the United States…” or “…subject to the collective will of one or more of the other States…”) Neither the Texas Constitution, nor the Constitution of the united States, explicitly or implicitly disallows the secession of Texas (or any other “free and independent State”) from the United States. Joining the “Union” was ever and always voluntary, rendering voluntary withdrawal an equally lawful and viable option (regardless of what any self-appointed academic, media, or government “experts”—including Abraham Lincoln himself—may have ever said). Both the original (1836) and the current (1876) Texas Constitutions also state that “All political power is inherent in the people … they have at all times the inalienable right to alter their government in such manner as they might think proper.” Likewise, each of the united States is “united” with the others explicitly on the principle that “governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed” and “whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [i.e., protecting life, liberty, and property], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government” and “when a long train of abuses and usurpations…evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”
Q: Didn’t the outcome of the “Civil War” prove that secession is not an option for any State?
A: It only proved that, when allowed to act outside his lawfully limited authority, a U.S. president is capable of unleashing horrendous violence against the lives, liberty, and property of those whom he pretends to serve. The Confederate States (including Texas) withdrew from the Union lawfully, civilly, and peacefully, after enduring several decades of excessive and inequitable federal tariffs (taxes) heavily prejudiced against Southern commerce.
Refusing to recognize the Confederate secession, Lincoln called it a “rebellion” and a “threat” to “the government” (without ever explaining exactly how “the government” was “threatened” by a lawful, civil, and peaceful secession) and acted outside the lawfully defined scope of either the office of president or the U.S. government in general, to coerce the South back into subjugation to Northern control.
The South’s rejoining the Union at the point of a bayonet in the late 1860s didn’t prove secession is “not an option” or unlawful. It only affirmed that violent coercion can be used—even by governments (if unrestrained)—to rob men of their very lives, liberty, and property.
It bears repeating that the united States are “united” explicitly on the principle that “governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed” and “whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends [i.e., protecting life, liberty, and property], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government” and “when a long train of abuses and
usurpations…evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

by all freakn means! Don’t let the door hit ya in the arse on your way out!!!! Dear Lord, how much BETTER this country would be without the stupida$$ Texans and southerners!!! Let them have their backa$$ ways WITHOUT our dime to support them. Let Texas support them all, with their fat citizens and uneducated children, yeah, you’re livin’ the dream, you dumb a$$e$! GO! We dont even like you anyways.

Dear Mexico,
Take Bush or the deal is off. And just for broaching the subject, you’re going to need to tack on that hot chick from Y Tu Mama Tambien.
Not amused,
Sammy

Dont forget your guns and Bibles either!

Go ahead. Don’t let the door hit you in the butt.

I will move to the first state to secede from the union!!! I hope Texas is the first of many, the central government is a burden, I’m all for States rights!!!

Can we get rid of FOX NEWS TOO LET THEM JOIN TEXAS Lets not let them be availiable in the Us there all made for eachother!

Yeah till they get another natural disaster and want money from the mean ole Fed. Cheney said “deficits don’t matter”, I guess he meant as long as a coke head, drunk and awol Republican was borrowing.
Texas is a horrible place to live full of drugs, thefts and illegals their city property taxes make federal income taxes look cheap.
Please go, it’s really no loss.

Oh snap…he said y’all are gonna have cholera.

You ANTI-Americans are wasting time on this thread.
Since you want to leave…..START PACKING.
…daylight’s wastin.

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Talk about ironic since the Texas Boy put us in this mess after I had the country rockin…

I bet the voters of Texas want to secede from Rick Perry. They should be calling for new elections now. If Texas did vote to secede then toll roads and checks points should be installed on all routes in and out of Texas. We’ll need to bring the fence to the northern edges of Texas. All businesses that do business with the United States that are based in Texas will have to leave as a matter of national security. I’ll demand it from my representatives! The economics of dung are over. The real tea party began more than 2 years ago.

Well Bush could be their President and maybe we could get Hannity, Rush, Savage and any other hate preaching right wingers to move there. Maybe throw in Pelosi as no cost. Then instead of building a fence seperating the US and Mexico we could build it around Texas. Some Republicans!

I am a Texan from Dallas, Texas and I think Perry is insane for saying such a stupid comment. Texas is becoming more and more democratic everyday. He is just pandering to his religious right Republicans that got him elected. The big cities of Dallas, Houston, Austin and San Antonio all consistantly vote Democrat these days. This state isn’t even the most Republican of all the 50 states. We are very proud to be Americans even though we have insane leaders like Perry and the former Bush.

“Bye Bye Texas – good to see you go – take Louisiana with you”
NO! We need New Orleans.
“This is what happens when you select all the elements of Nazi Germany to run the Federal Government.”
No, but your post is what happens when you smoke glue.

So glad that, finally, people are understanding how truly anti-American and anti-democratic republicans are. Of course, absolutely immoral as well. Amusing to read posts from these texas yahoos trumpeting their Judeo-Christian values – the same values that allow these folks to support criminal wars of agression launched on false pretenses by – what other than – texan presidents like Johnson and Bush. America would actually be far better off without the morons in texas, lower midwest, and south. I’d love for them to split off, and take their like-minded buddies from the rest of the US with them. The avergae education levels and intelligence of the US would then skyrocket, and we might actually have a chance to again become the democratic, moral, and decent nation that our founding fathers envisioned us to be, rather than continue to be polluted with low-mentality cretins.

Yeah, as a former texas resident – don’t let the door hit your bigoted a$$es. And once we take away NASA and all the government contractors that go with it, and all the US military bases, good luck with that diversified economy. And because you will have no credit rating as an entity, “little” employers like the medical center in Houston, etc. will be gone. And the next hurricane – pay that cleanup and recovery off yourselves. But you “Texas independence” loudmouths just keep braying. Be the laughingstocks you are. “All belt, no cattle”, as you like to say….

California is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Better then Texas Prettier too

“i wish california would secede, then we wouldn’t have to pass a phony stimulus to bail out these over spending entitlement clowns. chew on that”
California is the greatest state in the country. Always a little f’d fiscally, but otherwise, California’s got it going on.

Sure, the right-wing REPUBLICANS in Texas would LOVE to secede from the Union… whereas the Democrats there probably just wish that they didn’t have to live with the stupid Texas Republicans!
Okay… let Texas secede. We’ll build our border fence AROUND Texas, and close the border. It will be lots easier to secure!
We can move the Johnson Spaceflight Center and numerous other federal facilities to more receptive states that will be grateful to have them. Next time a hurricane visits Galveston, we will save ENORMOUS amounts of FEMA response costs. We can prohibit Texas-based companies from owning energy facilities anywhere in the 49 states. In fact, maybe we can simply label Texas a terrorist state, impose sanctions and seize all the assets we can identify!
While we are at it, maybe we can pull Bush’s and Cheney’s citizenship, and drop their Secret Service protection as well. That would save a few $!
Well, in my dreams, anyway.

Is not Texas the place where Bush is from …the guy who ruined America ?? Now this guy Perry…. What in the world does Texas have to offer the US anymore but quality like this ?? And their all Republicans….. Future history books could call this movement, “The Trailer Trash Revolution” !!!

I never liked J.R. Ewing anyway.
___ punk.

angie you must be high. go check out debt ratings for municipal bonds, how about state deficits? now i know your talking just to talk

Bye Bye Texas. When are you leaving?

To borrow a couple of favorites phrases from conservatives, Perry is giving aid and comfort to the enemy and is obviously a member of the hate-America-first crowd. He should be arrested and charged with sedition.

Maybe Texas should secede and start another civil war…that may be the only way this country can get rid of the right-wing gun-crazy wackos trying to destroy it!

This crackpot talk of secession coming from a Republican governor doesn’t surprise me. These folks are the sorest loosers in the world – lose an election and secede from the Union. Nice, eh? However, this same guy didn’t hesitate to critize the Federal government for not getting aid to Galveston sooner after the last hurricane, nor is he sending back the FEMA clean up money! Can’t have your cake and eat it too. He should apologize to all Texans and to the Nation.

Perry’s an absolute idiot. It may be hard to believe, but there are a lot of folks in this state who wholeheartedly support the Obama administration, gun control, and the teaching of ACTUAL science in public schools. Granted, we are in the minority, but just because we don’t shoot our mouths off the way the governor does doesn’t mean we like what Rick Perry says or does. It just means we don’t want crosses burned on our lawns.

Texas apparently does have the legal means to secede should it decide to do so. However, if that happens, this Democrat will move out of the Lone Star State. Hey guys, Obama won all of the big cities in Texas… there are plenty of thoughtful people here. If we all leave, Texas may fall back into the 19th century.

Uh….there are actually politically liberal, non-truck driving, non-redneck, non-Bush loving people in Texas (especially in Austin). Check us out before you judge.

I stand corrected – the better quote was “big hat, no cattle” and there is a variation implying that the larger the belt buckle, the smaller the……. you get the point. Out of Texas, it translates loosely to “all talk, no action.” Happiness was Texas in MY rear view mirror. Never lived in a more intolerant, bigoted place in my life and was thrilled to get out.

texasgirl – you need to read the news… we have a problem right now with deflation still… this ball o’crapola came from 4 things…
the last 8 years…
the moronic sensibilities that the gov is still spouting
the walls being removed that protected us from wall street playing games with the numbers that kept our economy stable and kept someone having some skin in the risk (a removal by the republican establishment)
and the false and misleading push to reduce the taxes on the rich at the very top of the economic ladder over the last 40 years saying it was helping the country and was imperative to create a more stable economy of jobs.
all republican bank issues.
and have you seen the facts on the tea parties and what 99.999 % of the people that have gone have been saying when interviewed… their logic is about states raising their taxes or about selling out their children…ugh (as Obama is putting money toward education of idiots)…fall out from the last 8 years…yet here is an idiot governor getting up and saying they might secede…
stupid is…as stupid votes for.

Perry…. he bears an “uncanny resemblance” to Jim Jones….. the “drink the Kool-aid” Jim Jones….

Perry will get re-elected, he is very popular in Texas. Maybe he could run for president.. (Of Texas)! America is totally coming apart under Obama’s crazy regime, a breakup of the USA just like the USSR years ago is probably inevitable if this socialist agenda continues??

Levi:Nothing in Texas but “steers and queers” anyway…. perfect place for EVERY Republican on earth to relocate to …..
This is very Funny! I totally agree

As a Proud Texan whose family was orginial 300 settleters, I am apalled at such untruths about Texas. I figure that most of you don’t even know history of my state. So to inform you, it is written in law that we could succede lawfully. Perry did not say we were just that we could

As a lifelong Texan, I can say that not everyone here displays the ignorance that Perry has exhibited. However, we have more than our fair share of conservatives who like to talk about how patriotic they are in one breath, and then talk about seceding in the next breath. Where’s the patriotism there? I will happily move to another state if Texas ever secedes. The old arrogant, conservative Texan role has gotten old – nobody thinks you’re cute anymore.

Good riddance to trouble-makers. While you’re at it, take the AIG execs with you. And do it before another from the Bush family escapes your borders.

“Happiness was Texas in MY rear view mirror.”
That’s more like it. That is song-worthy, AndieLee.

With the biggest Medical center in the world as well as the The first “integrated circuit” (a computer chip for you stupid people) was invented in Texas. The first word uttered by man landing on the moon was “Houston.” Texas produces more fuel, including petroleum and natural gas, than any other state. In 2006, Texas was home to six of the top 50 companies on the Fortune 500 list and 56 overall, more than any other state.
So why are some of these people thinking that Texans are a bunch of rednecks.
Last point – Texas PAYS IN more federal tax money than it receives. I could go on and on.(from YouSheeple) I will say it again..TEXAS ROCKS!!

YouSheeple….we get your point. But a lot of us have been to Texas…. except for the handful of people you mentioned above, ALL of the rest are rednecks….OK…..

I’ll go to the first state that secedes !! A propper response to a currupt government. Did’nt this happen before in history? Yea I think it did…

It’s hard to argue with facts.
Texas has the highest number of Fortune 500 company headquarters in the United States, fifty-eight. This has been attributed to both the growth in population in Texas and the rise of oil prices in 2005. Houston has the second highest number of Fortune 500 companies in the US, second to New York. There are currently 33 billionaires residing in Texas today. Dallas has 11 billionaires, the most of any city in Texas. Houston, the state’s largest urban economic enclave stands at the center of the petrochemical, biomedical research trades, shipping, and aerospace (particularly NASA). In 2006, for the fifth year in a row, Texas led the nation in export revenues. Texas exports for 2006 totaled $150.8 billion, which is $22.1 billion more than 2005 and represents a 17.2 percent increase. In 2002, the Port of Houston was 6th among the top sea ports in the world in terms of total cargo volume; Air Cargo World rated Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport as “the best air cargo airport in the world”. The ship channel at the Port of Houston—the largest in the U.S. in international commerce and the sixth-largest port in the world.
Waiting on “comebacks” that have no factual (or thoughful) basis.

“So why are some of these people thinking that Texans are a bunch of rednecks.”
Because some of us have been there and seen that many are.

There are actualy about a dozen states that have this in their state constitutions or in state legislation. The right to leave the union if the feds become to intrusive. Arizona, Texas, New Hampshire…. I dont know all the others?? It should be an interesting next 4 years….. People can take only so much oppression.

I wish Texas WOULD secede from the Union. It and most of the Southern redneck states have been nothing but a pain in the #### to the rest of the country. It is Texas that gave us the worst president we ever had. It is Texas that gave us Enron and Texas that has been the headquarters of keeping Big Oil in the saddle and stymying any and all energy reforms. Texas has produced or was instrumental in a lot of the major problems this country faces today. I wish they WOULD secede. They think they are sick of us? WE are sick of THEM. GET OUT AND DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YA WHERE THE GOOD LORD SPLIT YA.

OMG! We have a black president! We must secede! The sky is falling!

hmmm…I do read the news…have you seen what the dollar is related to the WORLD market…its not good. In fact, China isn’t even sure that they can afford to bail us out. You think Bush did all that? Haha…how about all your big office guys on Wall Street screwing the American people? I forgot…Obama inherited it all, but I think he’s having a harder time saving what “Bush” did than he thought he would. I’m just curious how you think that the Republican’s have cause these bank issues? I guess in the next four years, since the Democrats are now running those banks, we will see how much better they do. We as American’s should quit trying to figure out how to screw everyone out of a dime. That’s where the problem is. Oh and in case you didn’t read the last line of my last post, not all of us believe this (Rick Perry)…just stating the facts.

I would love to see him win…and then run for national office after he publicly said he’s keeping the option open. One more national election for the Dems… Please keep up the sabor rattling…it definatly reminds us every day as to why we voted your party out of office twice…and probably a third on the way.

hate to break the bad news to you haters of texas and lovers of california but im from las vegas and the only people moving to cali are illegals i know this because anyone worth their salt is moving here. people are fed up with california and its tax burden. the state of california is on a cliff ready to go and what did we do???? we elected barry, the guy who will take us the same way as cali only at warp speed. beam me up please.

Secede then, I know that it is written in your constitution and rights when you joined the union, also your right to self divide your state into parts/sections also…. Just don’t let the door hit you on the way out when you leave our long standing union of other 49 states… Maybe you can single handedly fight another war with Mexico for your independence.

Screw all of you nay-sayers about texas, Rick Perry is doing whats best for us. Even if it seceding from the union

If one thinks about it, Calif, NV, NM, Colo an AZ will be run my Latinos. I give that about 8 years to happen. Also, the Libs will do away with the Electorial College an that would mean that the large Cities will have control of the voting block. Which is about the way it is now. Texas could do very well by itself, having all of the necessary resources within its Borders. 33 States are now looking at the same l0th Amendment. Thats interesting.

Don’t let the door hit you in the rear on your way out.. If Texas wants to leave, let em. Let’s see how long they last when the USA takes away ALL military equipment and units, all monetary state support and budgets, closes all military bases and government buildings and facilities and so forth. And where does Texas think it will get its money from so it can buy basic things like FOOD for its citizens?
Oil? No, don’t think so. Times are changing and Oil is finally on the board to become less and less of a dependent resource. Sure we are years away from that yet but the process has finally started. So what will Texas export then? Sand?

Texas – at or near the bottom:
* Has the highest rate of people living in poverty.
* Texas ranks 50th for the highest teen birth rate.
* Texas ranks 50th in the nation for the most people without medical insurance.
* Texas has the second highest income gap between rich and poor.
* Texas is the first in the nation for cancerous emissions into the air and toxic chemicals released into water.
* Texas is home to three of the most polluted cities in the U.S.
* PortArthur, Beaumont and Orange have the highest rate of cancer incident and death in the state. (hydrocarbon toxins and emissions)
* 5.6 million do not have health insurance.
* Texas has the highest teen birth rate and the most repeat teen births in the nation. (Texas requires middle schools to teach abstinence as the only method that is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy.)
* 80-90% of the homeless population living on the streets are affected by mental illness. One in four is a veteran.
* Texas is home to three of the poorest counties in the nation.Texas leads the country in executions since the death penalty was reinstated in 1976
* Texas has the second highest rate of incarceration.
Dallas Morning News 2007

“I guess in the next four years, since the Democrats are now running those banks, we will see how much better they do” Posted by: Texasgirl
Let’s do some simple math shall wee. The last 90 days of the W’s presedency, the market dropped 1600 points. The first three months of O’s presidency has halted the freefall and in the last 30 days has actually seen the market bottom out and regain it’s losses from his first 45 days…which of course were the leftovevers of W. So in 30 says or so…there has been a reversal of what W did and you can’t see that? Why is it so hard to admit that your ways are wrong? The DOW dropped 50% under bush in 1 year. Was that a succes to you?
Let me ask you this… So many are affraid of paying the extra 3% tax for the top 1%…but let’s put it in percpective. Since this economy is driven by produce and sales…wouldn’t you rather pay a higher tax rate on sales that you making than a lower tax rate on sales that your not? Something to consider.

This is just Perry trying to rally his redneck, ignorant, one-toothed NASCAR base for next year’s primary with Hutchison. I’m ashamed to call him governor of the state I’ve lived in my whole life. Disgusting …

Saturday, January 28, 2006
Governor Perry. We’re number one! We’re number one!
In the most recent TV commercial aimed at Joe “After he drank a six pack”, Governor Rick Perry sharply turns to the camera and says “I’m proud of Texas. Are you?”. After anyone drinks a six pack, they just might agree with the Governor, but when they wake up and realize their head hurts, and the Governor left them with the bar tab, they might begin to think. For once.
Being proud of Texas has absolutely nothing to do with being proud of Rick Perry. Being number one sometimes isn’t that good. For instance we are number one in:
# College Football (yea! We ARE number one!)
# Highest home insurance rates
# Percentage of Population without Health Insurance
# Percentage of Uninsured Children
# Amount of Toxic Emissions from Manufacturing Facilities
# Amount of Toxic Release Inventory Chemicals Used by Manufacturing Industries
# Number of Clean Water Permit Violations
# Number of Hazardous Waste and Spills
# Number of Adults in the Criminal Justice System
# Number of Firearm Deaths
# Number of Registered Machined Guns
# Number of Traffic Fatalities
# Number of Alcohol-Related Traffic Fatalities
And if that isn’t bad enough, look how we rank in other areas:
# Education 37th
# Parks and Recreation 48th
# Police Protection 49th
# Government Administration 50th
# Environmental Protection 46th
# Public Health 45th
# Mental Health 47th

Texas, Please go. And take Oklahoma, Louisiana, Missisippi and Alabama with you. If you would be happier, I know that I certainly would be estatic. They say Texas is a state of mind. Well it is a state of mine that can be another country as far as I am concerned.

Why don’t all of you find something constructive and worthwhile to do and stop the bitching back and forth. Talk about childish!

YES YES YES!! THIS IS THE GREATEST NEWS I HAVE EVER HEARD!!!
FINALLY WE CAN GET RID OF ALL THE COUNTRYS PROBLEMS IN ONE PHEL SWOOP!!
NO MORE WHITE TRASH…LAME SUV DRIVING LOSERS!!!
YEEEHAW!!! TELL ME WHERE I CAN VOTE ON THIS NOW!!
finally the usa will be a great country again!! yes yes best news ever!!

hege, take illegal immigrant stats out of all that and what do you get. this is going to be the same problem with the census now that barry has his hands on it. can’t wait.

“Why don’t all of you find something constructive and worthwhile to do and stop the bitching back and forth. Talk about childish!”
Actually, there’s not much forth in the back and forth. This is pretty much an avalanche of Texan redneck-bashing. Join in or get out of the way.

“hege, take illegal immigrant stats out of all that”
Why…do they live somewhere else?

I say we secede. One thing you should have learned from GW is that Texans doesnt take sh!t from anybody. We can then build our own oil fields and make you idiots buy the oil. And even if we did become part of Mexico that would make new neighbors out of Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma.

Belkeoki, well worded post, and thanks for actually articulating a position instead of the bluster that’s all over the rest of this blog.
The thing you may consider about Obama pushing the CEO out is that the CEO first came to the federal government for bailout money and was coming back for more. If we were purely capitalistic and free-market, that shouldn’t happen either. I like the fact that Obama’s version of a bailout, while not perfect, at least carries some implication of accountability and a true “investor” relationship. If you want our (the US public’s) money, we’re going to be in your underwear while you spend it. My impression of the first TARP was, the money is gone, no questions asked, no hope of getting it back. That made Bush seem like the liberal and Obama taking it a step rightward. Not quite “Ron Paul” rightward, but better than nothing.
If you think the govt. should stay out of the business, I respect that, but then also chastise the business for going to the government.

What has happened to people? The Texas Governor makes reckless remarks before a right wing fringe of people in Texas politics and many of you throw all 24 million residents under the bus without blinking an eye!
Texas is home to many great and profitable industries and is home to 3 of the top 10 biggest cities in the US.

You are a bunch of northern bigots against Texas. Do you know that Texas asked the Union to help them fight for independence against Mexico, but the Union stayed out of it. Then Texas won independence from Mexico and the Union asked Texas to join. Texas said no, we’ll make our own country, we needed you then, but we really don’t need you now.
Pick up a history book and stop being ignorant about our state (our country) and running your mouth about “hillbilly hicks”, “steers and queers” and “the redneck RNC”.
Perry is appealing to what every native Texan is inculcalted with as a child in our public schools. And that is, Texas doesn’t need the USA. The USA needs Texas.
Most of you are just ignorant and jealous Yankees.

Only a Republican idiot from Texas would say this. What’s wrong with that state? George W, now this nit wit.

I happily support this, one less red state in the union, the red state with the largest number of votes in the electoral college. Please, Please, Secede.

“One thing to remember, Texas has a lot of natural resources, including oil”—we get the majority of our oil from Canada, and they dont like Texans either. AND we will be having huge surges in windpower and other technologies , remember? we’re going to invest in getting off oil and you’re doing to drill baby drill ,remember?

“Most of you are just ignorant and jealous Yankees.”
What are we jealous of again?
I’ll bet that Perry didn’t anticipate the collective “by all means, go ahead” sentiment echoing throughout the country today. Ha. I think his bluff has been called.

Can’t we just nuke California, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont and DC? That would solve most of the problem.

If Texas leaves, how will we get our drugs from Mexico? And who will Mexico buy guns from?

Really? Leave and we’ll be sure to bomb you.

It is unfortunate that the paid “political bloggers” are here in force to spread their lies….the fact remains that Carter and Clinton were instrumental in the housing crisis and the Nafta programs! So much for the intelligence of the DEMS…no one ever said that EVERYONE should have the same amount of money and possessions….those are WORKED for and
and educated for….but, if you live in CChina….that is what you get….this is not CHINA…this is AMERICA where you were FREE to accomplish your dreams and PAY your own way….you small minded uneducated buffoons …you would do well to know what you are talking about before you open your foul mouth garbage traps!!

The neocons want to start another civil war because they do not get their way. WAH!

Can’t we just nuke California, New York, Massachusetts, Vermont and DC? That would solve most of the problem.
Posted by: Alex
Ah yes…Mass Murder… the battle cry of the religous right.

Talk , talk , talk…blah, blah blah
I can see how heated the debates on this post are. Most of you show nothing but hatred on all sides I mean.Something is for sure if were France or England there will be riots and bloodshed in this country by now. With this economy and the way the country is heading I will not be surprise.

It would be a beautiful thing if we lost Texas. Can they take the rest of the red states with them? That would be nice.

Country First?

hey man, cali is the best man. all the ladies bro, beaches, man. nothin better bro than sittin on the beach, soakin the sun, waitin for the first to roll around and pick up my check dude. que paso holmes, wheres the cervesa?
Posted by: stickman
Oh no…not you again. Stickman…you haven’t said one intelegant thing in the last two days I’ve seen you on here.

Can’t we just nuke California, New York, Massachusetts —–you just nuked over 90% of the country’s wealth moron. And brainpower. Over 80% of venture backed new technological businesses are in Massachusetts and California. You just nuked MIT. You just nuked Cal Tech. You just nuked the best hospitals in the country with the leading biology R&D in the world. You got something against money and brains? IQ-envy?

I resided in TexAss for many years, and talk about a thumping bore of a state. There is no culture, diversity, no redeeming qualities, absolutely nothing to do but go to the bar on Saturday, the mall on Sunday, monster truck shows at the Astrodome, and the rodeo – you guessed it – at the Astrodome once a year. The state is ugly, flat, its climate is hot, humid, wretched 8-10 months of the year, and its cities are filled with strip malls, billboards, and topless bars. The list of why you shouldn’t live/visit TexAss is just endless. When you ask anyone where they will be traveling to on holiday, do you ever hear them mention “Texas?” Steers yes, queers not so much. Big hair, click-ish drunks, and attitude…that would be a definite yes. Thousands of points for having big cotton candy hair as they say in the south; ‘The higher the hair, the closer to God…” This latest article of the governor wanting to become independent is why one shouldn’t even waste their time, money, and energy visiting a state that wants to be excluded from everyone else…

The majority of Texans don’t support this knucklehead. He’s planning another run for governor and is looking for his 15 minutes of national fame. This too shall pass. Plus, he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell of winning against Sen. Hutchison or Houston mayor Bill White. For that matter, Kinky Friedman could probably beat him this time around. He’s just another black eye on good, honest, hard-working Texans.

It is unfortunate that the paid “political bloggers” are here in force to spread their lies….the fact remains that Carter and Clinton were instrumental in the housing crisis and the Nafta programs! So much for the intelligence of the DEMS…you small minded uneducated buffoons …you would do well to know what you are talking about before you open your foul mouth garbage traps!!
Posted by: rfchir81 | Apr 16, 2009 4:34:30 PM
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ROFLMAO! So the 6 years we had a Republican controlled House and Senate with a sitting Republican President following Clinton did WHAT to overturn these so-called policies of Carter and Clinton?

Benedict Arnold, Robert E. Lee and Rick Perry.
Rick Perry owes the people of Texas an apology and his resignation.

“Davy Crockett said, “You may all go to Hell, and I will go to Texas.”"
Ah yes, the genius of Davy Crockett. This is the one that kilt him a bar? Nothing like a Davy Crockett quote to drive home the over-whelming worth of a culture.

You all are so jealous – oh yes, We all want fat as ses and uneducated children in some parched ugly self delusional self important blow hard land ruled by the biggest idiots in the nation. oh yeah, why live in a green place with clean water and mountains and beauty and good schools and healthy food and lifestyle when you can be a big fat slob living in the heat and dessert in stupidass texas. LOL! Your housing is SO much cheaper than up north and STILL the smart people would NEVER move away from here. Why would we????? only the dumb ones who cant get jobs and afford to live up here move. you get our scraps from the table.

What a complete Jack**s!!!! Why? So they can become another third world country for the rest of us to support!!! OOP’s !! Forgot they already are!!!

“Ah yes, the genius of Davy Crockett”—LOL!!! some folks quote Einstien. Other quote Emerson. Texans quote Davey Crocket. LOL!

“remember all his promises of bringing us all together?”
He’s doing a good job of it, in spite of the ridiculous disinformation/fear-monger campaigns being run by the right-wing talking heads and those who eat whatever they’re fed by them.

Governor Zoolander doesn’t speak for all of us – he walked through the last election with less than 40% of the total vote.
I think most Texans know there’s nothing to the secession myth and previous movements to establish an independent Texas have been pooh-poohed, if not outright ignored.

Maybe they can still divide and form five states but the Compromise of 1850 makes absolutely no provision for secession! Perry is a blowhard and only marginally worse than his predecessor. There are times I’m ashamed to be a Texan by birth–and this is one.

Hey Silky, whatever that means, here is another quote for you from THOMAS JEFFERSON, “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.” So if you want government in practically most of your lives, then so be it. I for one believe in the Constitution which protects us from the Government. Why don’t you read it one day!

What would Davy Crockett do?

“What would Davy Crockett do?”
—shoot something, probably. I wonder how that ‘coonskin hat’ smelled after a few years.

GArcia. the only laws that directly affect my life are conservative laws. you know…the folks who brought us these gems….When you can buy booze. War on Drugs. What a woman does with her body. Who can get married. Who can adopt. Who can unionize. Where you can build certain businesses. When certian business can operate. What religious prayer my kids have to sit through at school sporting events. Also brought to you by neocons… no laws to protect us from polluted water and air. Deregulation of the financial markets. Warmongering, and the disdain of the rest of the civilized world…which would in all likelyhood NOT include a Nation called Texas.

Devil-Mutt. Do you look up facts first or do you just post things you pull out of the air? The south isn’t taking any more $$$ than the rest of the country. California is in the top ten states with the highest unemployment rates so don’t bank too much on them saving your butt. I would have to assume that a lot of the people that got us into this trouble in the first place went to your beloved Ivy schools. Who cares where a school is located. And it’s the fed’s job to secure the border not the states so don’t blame the immigration problems on Texas, AZ or NM.

Btw, the writing and viewpoint of the kid with the master’s degree doesn’t speak to highly of the school from which he got his degree. I call bs.

hahawrong, let me give you a few from the left, where i can smoke, what i can drive, how much of my check i get, what i can eat, and coming soon where my thermostat is at. i agree with you actually, its just crazy of you to think it all comes from the right.

“Silky…that should be TOO with 2 O’s….why is it folks who go after grammar always make an error in the post?”
It wasn’t the grammar, it was the jist. And while I’m not a spelling and grammar stickler on the message boards, I can certainly appreciate calling out those who don’t proofread posts addressing others’ intelligence. Fair enough.

Oh, is there a what you can drive law where you are? odd. Conservatives created the income tax…so that answers the check thing. The what you can eat thing…never heard of that kind of law. The only one I see that is a real gripe is the smoking thing, and that effects everyone around you. If you want to attack the left…argue that we: Stifle your religious rights as the majority. Force you to accept and deal with parts of american culture that offend your beleif system (ze gays). Give unfair advantages to individuals because they may fit a demographic, instead of basing aid on individual need (see affirmative action). Don’t push personal responsibility along with welfare, to break the cycle. Often want to abandon the 2nd ammendment in favor of some unrealistic ideology that by banning guns, you will stop criminals.
Yeah…I’m not a huge fan of the far end of the spectrum either way.

“silky, so he was going to bring the left and the faaaarrrrr left together? what would you like me to explain. i am a wealth of information.”
The left, moderates, and anybody willing to get away from the mob mentality of the Hannity/Limbaugh machine. Those people are unreachable and he knew it. Look at his approval ratings…he’s done it. Those aren’t all Democrats, as there are plenty of Democrats who aren’t very happy with him.

Well… at last, Rick Perry has something to say that makes sense. By the way, most of you bloggers need to look in your history books for the agreement Texas made with the USA when it was admitted into the union. If you are so quick to show your ignorance, you should blog on your local county news website where you will be accepted among your peers.

hahawrong, i think we agree on quite a bit, i can’t be as articulate as i would like i am at work, i was reffering to things like trans fat laws in ca, standards on automobiles, (and who runs the companies now), income tax is not the only tax, and that specific tax has been perverted by both sides over and over. what i meant by how much of my check is that with all this debt we are piling up we either have to borrow, print, or tax. two of the three raise taxes and one causes inflation. that is why there were demonstrations yesterday. its not the whopping 13 bucks we get that should be the focus, it should be how are we going to pay for all this debt? that doesn’t even include some of the other garbage they are proposing. smart thermos, cap and trade, (they even admit this would cost every household thousands)climate change, (i laugh every time i write that) universal healthcare, it goes on and on. i am the first to say that the right wing has serious issues, its just that the left isn’t any better.

It is interesting to see the “right-wing” zealot responses to this story and how anyone who even examines the idea of secession is labeled as such. Welcome to the era of mobbing Republicans for any and all reasons. It has happened before and we’ve survived it nicely. In fact, we’ll grow from the experience.
To the main point: Given that eleven states seceded in the past Civil War years, one must at least concede that there were what we might call “left-wing” radicals in the form of “Red-Shirts” who were, in fact, Democrats. The “Red-Shirts” were, in fact, a para-military force that were pro-South and pro-Slavery. It is interesting to note once again that these were mostly Democrats.
So…. THESE are the folks who, in the past, advocated secession. For the most part… Democrats.
Perhaps this is a case, so to speak, of the pot calling the kettle black? One should examine one’s party history before casting aspersions at those they disagree with. Of course, given the Liberal history being taught in schools and with the truth being bent at all levels by the Liberal Left, it’s pretty clear that most younger minds are not aware of these rather interesting histories of their own party.
Fascinating… isn’t it?

i love barry

Apparently everything in Texas really is bigger. Like the rates of retardation among elected officials there. (Perry, Bush). ZING!

This type of un-American partisan politic plays on the fears of groups of people and fosters hatred between them.
I see this type of segregationist thinking weakens our democracy. Don’t play into the hands of these people.
Our country is always strongest when we all pull together.

Seriously…the whole jealous Yankee thing? Comedy gold.

I doubt very seriously that Texas would secede from the union even if it could. I am a native Texan and proud of it but I am also an American and very proud of that fact! I guess its time for all the Texas-bashers to come out of their holes or wherever they hide. Perry’s comments certainly excited them. Although the Texas-bashers don’t know it if Texas were to legally secede it would have very negative consquences for the US more than these small minded people can imagine. I have served in the US military and I will not idly stand by for anyone to threaten the United States of America or commit acts of terror!

A better idea for you Texans reading this: may I remind you that the treaty admitting you to the union allows you to split into fiva states. Look it up. Imagine having 10 senators! Let’s hear from the Lone Stars!

WATCH FOX NEWS FOR ALL THE NEWS, NOT ONLY THE NEWS THE LEFT WANTS TO REPORT.PRAY FOR OUR PRESIDENT THAT HE CHANGES FOR THE RIGHTS OF THE UNBORN.

Obviously most of you know nothing about, or have never been to Texas (maybe Austin where I live, but not the rest of the state). First of all, Texas would do a MUCH better job protecting our own border than the US is doing right now. In fact, California, Arizona, and New Mexico would probably see their borders’ taken over as Texans would not allow an invasion if given the option, forcing all of the illegals and drugs through other states. Have fun with that one.
Also, on the secession note, we CAN legally secede. On the note above, part of the treaty we signed with the US back in 1845 states that as part of our agreement the US government must keep our border with Mexico secure. Since it clearly isn’t, we don’t have to secede at all! All we have to do is acknowledge that the liberals from the other end of the country think Mexicans (and worse) coming across our borders as they desire is perfectly fine. After we acknowledge that, the treaty is off and we are a Republic once more. Assuming we kept free trade with the US (best for both sides considering we have a lot of what you liberals need to fuel your daily lives), we would thrive as we could use about half the taxes we currently pay to fund our government. Have fun without our money, but don’t complain to us when you’re broke in a few years.

Wow Bri. Learn some economics, look at some facts, and then get back to me. First of all, you can’t have a “failed presidency” unless you are kicked out, so stop using the term. Second, it’s the Bush family, not the Busch family (typical, you call us dumb?). Third, again if you knew anything about economics, the US can’t afford to embargo Texas. The US needs what we have to offer. Fourth, we don’t need your military, but you’ll need ours because many of the US military are from Texas and the biggest military base in the nation (along with MANY others) is in Texas, so you can take yours and we’ll take ours. Fifth, we cleaned up THREE hurricanes recently. Katrina in Louisiana because the liberal mayor in New Orleans couldn’t handle it, Rita, and Ike. Never did we whine and complain (we leave that to the academics that don’t know how to work). Finally, if the US did create an embargo on Texas, our college teams could become a new TFL along with our pro teams because more players come from Texas than any other state (by far).

It is funny (in a sad way) how so many of the self-proclaimed patriotic conservatives are talking about seceding and rebelling against a duly elected president and congress.

To everyone that says this is treason…IT’S NOT!! If you would read that Constitution and U.S. laws, would would find nothing, I repeat, NOTHING that outlaws or prohibits the right of a state to secceed from the United States. Vermont has voted and only narrowly defeated a measure that would have them secceed from the U.S., so it’s not just a Southern idea. And also how can it be treason? Secceession is deeply rooted in American culture. Did our Founding Fathers not secceed from Great Britan? The Declaration of Independence states, “Whenever any form of government becomes destructive, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it and to institute new government.” So while I personally think it is a bad idea, at the moment, it is by no means treason.

I support Texas independence. I’ve lived here all 50 years. I was educated at TCU. My farm has been in the family since the civil war(which started over states rights, not slavery which entered the picture later, ie Fredrick Douglas). I even think Obama does a great job representing the federal government. But Texas can truly stand better on it’s own two feet minus Washington.

Texas won’t have to succeed. By the time God’s wrath is finished with this Nation,there won’t be much left to succeed from.It would be amusing if Texas and other states would succeed.Liberals are hedonistic cowards and would not be willing to fight. Many in the armed forces would desert before they would fight their own people. The new states could send all the illegals and criminals they have to the blue states. They love criminals,Perverts and God-haters. The Lord would bless a new Union honoring Christianity and decency.Then He could take care of business with his enemies,since they will all be flocking together.

TEXAS ROCKS FOR DOING THIS FINALLY SOMEONE HAS THE BALLS TO DO IT

Hey, I’m a Texas. Do I want Texas to secede? NO! I think it’s a stupid idea. Not every Texas agrees with Perry. And not all of us down here are Republicans and/or hicks.

There are a lot of emotions on this post, but a couple of things should be clarified. Texas joined the Union prior to the Civil War and was an independent country for around 10 years. It had it’s own Constitution and still does. When Texas joined the union, it held the right to leave the Union in its own Constitution.
I’m a Texan, not a Republican nor Democrat, and have been to almost all the states and see their people. All have their own steers and queers, beer and rednecks of some sort, and white coats are prevalent in the far North. So I’m not offended by the remarks of the uninformed, or people who’ve never even been here.
Anyway, it’s just politics. Texans won’t let politics rule its state. The people do. Perry has been throwing rocks at Obama from the start. But he should keep his own bed made and his nose clean if he wants to keep doing it.

By the way Elanie I agree full force with you, Texas has the right to suceed NOT because of the USA constitution but by their own state constitution that the USA agreed to when Texas was anexed..

You people can make fun all you want- but don’t forget Texas has got the space program, one of the largest and best hospitals in the US, refines 80 percent of America’s oil, and has enough farmland to become self-sufficient. Plus every citizen in Texas practically owns a small armory, they could raise their own military overnight. But they wouldn’t need to- they practically own the defense industry anyway.

Didn’t we fight a war over this a while ago? Now those in the “party of Lincoln” want to leave the Union. Good luck with that.