The Taxman Cometh for the Obamas and Bidens As Well

File this under: Oh that Joe Number 1,345,569.

I would say that the Bidens are CHEAP for not donating more to charities, but then they are DEMS so that figures. He doesn’t want to help anyone, but expects the GOVT, to have all of these entitlements for whoever they think needs it. HE DOESN’T PAY HIS SHARE, WE ALL DO. NOT FAIR AT ALL.

It would appear that tax cheat Tim G. prepared Biden’s taxes. Something looks fishy.

Okay teabaggers, all those who paid over $855,000 in taxes this year (not to mention over $77,000 in state income taxes) plus donated over $170,000 to charity, please raise your hands!
That’s what I thought.

Yes, the Biden’s charitable contributions are downright shocking but what is more shocking is that they do not have one penney, not on penney in the stock market. Is that a vote of confidence from the VP? Does he know something about Obama that we don’t?

hey dee, you know you can look up what barry contributed to charity BEFORE he started running for pres. i will let you get back to me on that one. i bet you also didn’t know that satan himself glen beck gives 20% of his income every year regardless of what he makes. darn i bet that really gets you huh?

How many of you voted, how many have volunteered in one form or the other, these wages don’t seem to far out of line. I would love to make $200,000 a year would even be happy with $40,000.

so what!: You are uninformed. I can’t tell you how many years now that public officials tax returns are made public. Its all part of the job. Mr Bush, Clinton, Father Bush, Mr. Reagan, etc had all of their returns released to the public.

What does your response have to do with what was posted? It still does not make okay that this information was released but it is okay because it just shows that he understand the middle/working class. He worked his way up the food chain, unlike others who had it handed it to them.

I wonder how many citizens would like to have this scrutiny and unforgiving analysis of their every move. A lot of times my husband and I donate money to charities without putting in for a deduction. We also sometimes help to support other family members, as I belive the Bidens have also done from time to time. Based on the kind and generous people that they both appear to be, I am more than willing to give them the benefit of any doubt about charitable contributions. This is just a reason to pick at and disparage the new administration.

I am waiting to how much money the President and VP give to the poor under their wealth redistribution plan!

Good for him — this is America — the land of opportunity — we should all be so lucky………………My only problem — yesterday, when Obama talked about raising taxes on the wealthiest of Americans, he said, because people like him can afford it. The problem — he wants to start taxing people making over $250,000 — those families aren’t like him!!! There is a BIG gap between President Obama and those families. Yes — $250k might be nice — but the families that I know at that income level — are working — you might call them working wealthy — they get up everyday and put in long hours – they don’t have silver spoons in their mouths. They went to college on loans — paid them off — and are trying to save for their own kids’ college now. Yes, they lead good lives — but they already pay higher taxes then the average person. Today’s tea parties are trying to make that argument. Yes, everyone should pay taxes — but not everyone can absorb a tax increase like President Obama can — because many people that will be affected by his tax increase aren’t millionaires like the Obamas.

>Why aren;t you covering the Tax Tea Parties??? Are you afraid of what the American public really thinks??
Maybe because at this moment they are not news worthy. It was quickly deduced that the Tea Parties were organized by many extreme right-wingers which suddenly was subtly co-sponsored by FOXNews (a major reason why most media is shirking away, and finally embraced by the Republican Party. What started as a non-partisan effort (and really could have made an impact)quickly became another mechanism employed by a party without a clue. First Palin-no! Then Michael Steele–no no!!! Now, the Tea Parties..NOPE! Three strikes! You’re out!!!

“Why aren;t you covering the Tax Tea Parties???”
He has see the left hand frame for other blog entries.
There are currently 3 blog entries related to the tea parties.
Maybe you missed it in your rush to look like a fool.
“Are you afraid of what the American public really thinks??”
The tea parties are not the American public.
They are a small slice of conservatives and FoxNews viewers.

Talk about the “Bushies” calling the kettle black.

What does your response have to do with what was posted? It still does not make okay that this information was released but it is okay because it just shows that he understand the middle/working class. He worked his way up the food chain, unlike others who had it handed it to them.
right on

How sweet that the poor Obama’s paid $48,000 for their precious daughter’s education. No wonder they could not get a mutt like he promised. Only the best dog and swing set will do for those two!

Who cares what they made? Geez, get a real story printed.

I wonder how many citizens would like to have this scrutiny and unforgiving analysis of their every move. A lot of times my husband and I donate money to charities without putting in for a deduction. We also sometimes help to support other family members, as I belive the Bidens have also done from time to time. Based on the kind and generous people that they both appear to be, I am more than willing to give them the benefit of any doubt about charitable contributions. This is just a reason to pick at and disparage the new administration.
Ever hear of public records?

Eleonora27: Of course, I’m quite aware that the tea parties have appropriate received news coverage. However, it is quite clear from Tracy (and another poster) here that the coveage should have been much more intense. I posted just to let them know “why” the event has not received more intense news coverage that they so desired. For all practical purposes, the Tea Parties were a bust (and that’s being kind.) Better luck July 4th!

The president said today that he had provided tax cuts for 95% of Americans. Which taxes did he cut for the 43% who pay no income taxes at all?
Was the president lying?
Somebody, please–if you love your man Obama, you’ll name us just one of those peoples’ taxes that have been cut. Come on, you can do it!

LOSERS…. LOSERS….LOSERS…. LOSERS…. LOSERS….

Mr Biden has some explaining to do. Does he not believe this economy is going to turn around? He has no money invested in the stock market! Is there something he’s not telling us?

I think the Bidens are surely lacking in the charitable contributions area. Not good role models.

Posted by: BarryG | Apr 15, 2009 6:37:14 PM
“How sweet that the poor Obama’s paid $48,000 for their precious daughter’s education.”
BarryG, your post has the tone of bitterness and jealousy. Here’s the good news: even if you can’t afford $48,000 for your kids education, they can go to school for free, work hard, go to college (even with federal support!), write bestselling books, and make a lot of money too. It’s called American opportunity.

I guess it’s the internet and information so readily available but I just find it hard to believe the awful comments people make and what a short memory they have to why we are in this fix to begin with.
I hope that people say awful things just for the shock value, because it is frightening how hateful people are.

“Obama paid more for his dog than Biden gave to charities last year.” Jeffery, the dog was a free gift. Go back to the basement.

“He has stated that the tax credit will help offset payroll taxes for those WORKING families…”
It won’t reduce their payroll tax at all; it will just be money given to them. It would equally true to say that it will help offset their liquor bill, or their cigarette tax, or their gambling losses. Why say it will offset payroll taxes?

President Obama needs to put his money where his mouth is. He needs to pay in 39% (minimum) as well as not taking a deduction for charity contributions.
President, Pay Up! Spread that wealth!

Joe Biden: The gift that just keeps on giving.

“I think the Bidens are surely lacking in the charitable contributions area. Not good role models.” Posted by internet marketing outsourcing @ 6:58:05
In 2009, after 36 years of service in the United States Senate, Joe Biden was listed by US News and World Report as the poorest of the 99 Senators. That, sir, is the best role model one could have. Maybe the current 99 Senators, including John (I don’t know how many houses I own.) McCain.

Posted by: Marte | Apr 15, 2009 7:01:05 PM
“Center One, only problem is Obama is taking away that opportunity otherwise I would agree with you.”
Not in my state where unemployment is 12%. We’ll be using upcoming federal money to help build healthy new tax payers by investing in school districts, summer jobs for low-income teens, training and community college scholarships.
Check on your state’s web site to see how stimulus money is being used. Whether we like it or not it’s coming. Demand the money is spent to improve your kids’ long term American opportunities.

>Those who feel the President worked his way up from the bottom are really naive. Private school in Hawaii, Ivy League college education on a scholarship and contacts with all of the movers and shakers in Chicago. Please, get as grip on the bull about being one of us.<
You see, this is what "gets" to me about the naysayers. (I refrain from using conservative or republican because there is NOTHING wrong with having those beliefs.) Both of the Obama's worked their way up through the system. There are many parents who value education and the opportunity offered by education and this country. My father and his parents were sharecropprs yet he worked hard and sent my brother and myself to private schooling. This done by a man who did not finish high school! I won't call many of you racists or bigots (although your posts support that type of conclusion) but clearly you are jealous of the success the Obama's have achieved. You work hard, you get scholorships. You work hard, opportunities come to you. That's the simple story folks! The Obamas story is one that happens more often than we think in the USA. I know of a person who came to this country with only $200 in his pocket. He worked, and works hard and now commands over six figures. Anyone can do it and our country affords the environment for that to happen. Instead of whining and complaining, take stock of yourself and determine what you have to do to get yours! Its not just financial either. I know people who are happy making very little but have a passion for what they do and believe in.

Good for them. This is the USA and nothing wrong making it honestly.

For those criticizing the Obamas for paying for education.
LOL. How can you be so stupid? Go criticize your neighbors for paying their kids way through college.
No wonder China and India are taking over the world.

You can tell a lot about a person from how they spend their money. I wonder how the Biden’s can say they give of their time so that is good enough. It would be interesting to see exactly how much time they donated. Probably a whole hour.

Republicans continue to bash Obama on every single thing he does. Good or bad. And dont hand me that you bashed Bush for eight years. When Bush was in office 100 days I certainly was not bashing him. After 9-11 the whole country stood with Bush. Is that what has to happen for the country to get behind and stand with Obama? Bush has gotten a lot of heat and some uncalled for. Bush was the type of man that snuck on Airforce 1 and flew to Iraq to visit the troops on Thanksgiving Day im 2003. No one new about this trip but Bush and 3 or 4 other people. Bush had a good heart but made the mistake of surrounding himself with bad people including yes Cheney. He became so tunnel visioned with the war on terror and Iraq he forgot about everything else and his cabinet and VP edged him on to either making mistakes, possibly lying and forgetting his other Presidential responsibilities. Even most the Rep party abandoned him. Give Obama a chance, he deserves at least that.

I kind of see a pattern with the Obama family – want, want, want.

Dear IRS,
I am sorry to inform you that I will not be able to pay taxes owed
April 15, but all is not lost.
I have paid these taxes: accounts receivable tax, building permit tax,
CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog license tax, federal
income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting license tax,
fishing license tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax,
liquor tax, luxury tax, Medicare tax, city, school and county property tax
(up 33 percent last 4 years), real estate tax, social security tax, road
usage tax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational
vehicle tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal
excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone
minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility
tax, vehicle license registration tax, capitol gains tax, lease severance
tax, oil and gas assessment tax, Colorado property tax, Texas,
Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma and New Mexico sales tax, and many more that I can’t
recall but I have run out of space and money.
When you do not receive my check April 15, just know that it is an
honest mistake. Please treat me the same way you treated Congressmen Charles Rangle, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and ex-Congressman Tom
Dashelle and, of course, your boss Timothy Geithner. No penalties and no interest.
Sincerely,

Yes. ABC where is your coverage of the protests going on ALL OVER THE COUNTRY???? Why no coverage? What is behind the negligence?
P.S. Obama’s made double in the previous year. I guess Michele’s position was quite lucrative. See their 2007 earnings.

Girl Friday,
Do you not truly believe in the Lord?
I give 90% of my income to the Lord.
Posted by: jiml1956
————————I hope you are kidding and if you are not you must be really brainwashed. Chances are the Lord does not have a bank account and you are giving it to a man or woman that has you snookered. When I see statements like that I thank God I am athiest. Did you catch that? :)

Dear CAW,
All the people you cited were required to pay full interest, although since premeditation was not seen they were not charged punitive fines. As you are clearly on record as deliberately and with intent shirking your duty to pay for our armed forces, infrastructure, legal system, and general trappings of a first world nation, you are liable for both the full interest penalties paid by the aforementioned luminaries and civil penalties including fines and imprisonment.
Sincerely,
Posted by: jhw539 ————–Please lighten up. It was just a funny post I found. I pay my dues every year and as a 30 yr retired Master Chief I make sure not to ever do anything against the military. Smile it will make you feel better.

“Yes. ABC where is your coverage of the protests going on ALL OVER THE COUNTRY???? Why no coverage? What is behind the negligence?”
This has to be the new right wing spam as this keeps getting posted even though there are 3 articles dealing with the tea parties today on political punch alone.
There are also 3 articles on the Note blog, an article in the Numbers section and a general summary in the politics section.
The lesson as always? Right winger lie.

“Yes. ABC where is your coverage of the protests going on ALL OVER THE COUNTRY???? Why no coverage?————————–It is posted and even if it were not, why would ABC promote FOX, Hannity, Rush, Savage, and Newt. Thats all the Tea Party gimmick was. A promotion to start bashing Obama early on and well before the next election. After all isnt that the only way Republicans know how to win an election. Spend 90 percent of the time smearing the other guy and 10 percent talking about what they would do to help the country. Just take our recent past election as an example. Nice to see the party is really trying to fix itself. The rudderless ship carries on.

You know when Obama has a 72 percent approval rating on what he is doing with his tax plan doesnt the 28 percent against it have to atleast wonder if its maybe themselves that are wrong. I certainly would if that many more Americans thought he was right.

It is really interesting that a hugh group really don’t get the life issue.
Give to the gov’t what is theirs and to the Lord what is his. God really doesn’t care because God already has everything. He wants your heart. If you love, you will give.
BTW, I don’t have “some pastor” getting my money and living the high life. That is not what giving to the Lord is about. Sadly, some “pastors” do this (Al Sharpton come to mind?).
Come to think of it, my religion supports mission work worldwide and can document that it was one of the first relief organizations to the Tsumani, Katrina,etc. NOT the government with all its tax money redistributed.
Give a little more from the heart and see the rewards (tangible and intangible) you will reap.

Umm, seems like people are jealous because the obamas are giving people. I guess you gotta say something bad about them since most people are miserable in their own lives.

Posted by: brad | Apr 15, 2009 7:33:36 PM
“I kind of see a pattern with the Obama family – want, want, want.”
Well Brad, we kind of see a pattern with you – whine, whine, whine.

For all those who say Obama has raised their taxes, will you please give one instance of this happening to you personally? Thank you.

Quick everyone focus on your tv – they’re about to parade distraction dog accross the yard. Whew, that should buy them another day or two.

Frieda:”He became more charitable when he knew people are going to look closely in his tax filings.”
It also corresponds pretty closely to when he and his wife finished paying off their school loans and he hit the NY Times bestseller list paydirt.

Ryan! LOL!!! That was rather funny!!! …”distraction dog!” Very clever! Well, I guess you people do need something else because your Tea Parties did not capture the nations attention! So… now your kind will usurp the Obama’s dog to use in your vitriol?

Tea party? What tea party? Should we bring crumpets?

“Tea party? What tea party? Should we bring crumpets?”
Please do as its my un-birthday today.

jhw539,
My apologies. I obviously meant to ask that question of someone else.
Someone had brought up Blago or Ayers or Rezko, or some other nonsense.
Man, we need standards for commenting software. Poster’s name should always be on top, or bottom.

That’s really not that much. It’s nice they’re willing to pay more in tax due to their ability to do so.

Eric,
Let’s demand a government web site where every congressman and senator posts their tax returns.
Then we can judge their generosity compared to theirs.
Remember when Cindy McCain would release hers?

“Let’s demand a government web site where every congressman and senator posts their tax returns”
That’s a good idea.
Currently you can access financial disclosure forms on all members of Congress that can be viewed either at opensecrets or the Washington Posts Congress Votes database but that’s not tax returns.

“…since you have a history of exagerating the President’s words, could you please provide the EXACT QUOTE of what he said?”
October 2, 2008:
“‘Here is what I can tell the American people: 95 percent of you will get a tax cut,’ Obama said during last week’s debate.”

It pays to have an education and be able to write. God Bless America!

“He has stated that the tax credit will help offset payroll taxes for those WORKING families who do not have an income tax liability.”
In what sense does it “offset” their payroll taxes any more than it offsets their liquor bills? It is money given to them (it doesn’t reduce their payroll tax at all). They can use it for anything they want, including buying a dog or playing the lottery. It is not a tax cut, and he depends of fools to sell it as one.

You know, it really bugs me that campaign donations don’t have to be treated as business income.
These guys flew all over the country, all over Europe, to Hawaii, all on free money.
It should be taxable.

“These guys flew all over the country, all over Europe, to Hawaii, all on free money.
It should be taxable.”
Or just make elections publicly financed.

Or just make elections publicly financed.
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Hmmm….I seem to remember one candidate this election backing out of his pledge to go with the public financing option.
I don’t see why campaign donations shouldn’t be taxed.

“The working class as a bunch of drunks….”
Notice how energetically Ryan C avoids answering the question. He doesn’t answer it because he can’t: He knows that what Obama is calling a “tax cut” is really just a gift of money that can be used for any purpose at all.

“He knows that what Obama is calling a “tax cut” is really just a gift of money that can be used for any purpose at all.”
OMG Obama is gonna let people spend their tax cut as they see fit!
As opposed to other tax cuts where the government tells you how to spend it!
ROFLMAO!

“Obama is gonna let people spend their tax cut as they see fit!”
No, he’s gonna let them spend their welfare check as they see fit, which is as it should be. Provided that you think they should get those welfare checks, and provided that you identify them as such instead of pretending they are “tax cuts.”

“‘This report appears to raise significant issues involving the privacy and civil liberties of many Americans — including war veterans,’ Mr. Thompson said in the letter sent Tuesday.”
Is Rep. Thompson a right-wing extremeist?

“Obama left a carefully worded statement…,” i.e. a Clintonesque statement. Too bad he isn’t as careful with his use of the term “tax cut.”

“Here’s some of those ‘welfare’ credits.”
For people who pay no taxes, what are they credits against? Why are you unable to acknowledge that they are just gifts? Does that inescapable fact embarrass you?

From InvestorWords.com:
“Tax Credit
Definition
“The direct dollar-for-dollar reduction of an individual’s tax liability; compare with tax deduction, which reduces an individual’s tax liability only in proportion to his/her tax bracket.”
Mr. Obama is lying.

Should speech be taxed?
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Of course it already is. Those campaign ads cost money, and the people that earn the money either from the production or the airing of the ad make money and have to pay taxes on it.
The one getting the free ride is the candidate. He’s like a businessman that has to pay no taxes at all on his business income.

From the Free Dictionary online:
“Tax credit – a direct reduction in tax liability (not dependent on the taxpayer’s tax bracket).”
Mr. Obama is lying.

“Of course it already is. Those campaign ads cost money, and the people that earn the money either from the production or the airing of the ad make money and have to pay taxes on it.”
That is not taxing speech.
Again, taxing campaign donations directly wold be akin to taxing speech.
How do you get around that?

Let’s not focus on whether it is a tax cut or welfare payment. Let’s focus on Distraction Dog – isn’t he cute!

“Student aid and grants are available for the student with low income earning parents.”
They are also available to students with rich parents.
“Not so for the higher wage earners, who have to save their own money to pay for college.”
You mean their kids college.
Their kids of course can apply for financial aid and loans etc just like everyone else.
In fact that is the route most middle class families take since college is so expensive.
So now the right wing is whining about having a more educated populace and allowing even student of merit with low income backgrounds.
Why is winning the birth lottery of having rich parents such a burden and so unfair because poor students get fed aid?
No wonder you guys got your clocks cleaned the last 2 elections.
You really hold a majority of society in contempt.

Ryan C:
So now the right wing is whining about having a more educated populace and allowing even student of merit with low income backgrounds.
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No. I believe I asked why you didn’t think lower wage earners would be taking college tax credits.

What does Biden do with his money? We know he doesn’t give it to charities. How could he have only $273 of interest income and $0 dividends. I hope it’s not being spent on “coke”.

The lack of media coverage on these is just as sickening as what our government is doing with our money!

Hope all those Obama voters who bought his works of fiction last year and are now out of work and out of gas and unable to find a job, enjoyed their books a whole lot. Maybe they can burn them for fuel, while contemplating the $48,000+ the fraudulent First Couple spent on tuition last year.
Oh, look over there! It’s a dog!

Thomas Jefferson said:
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.”
That’s what Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are aiming for.

Poll conducted by Harris for the Tax Foundation:
“Despite the recent political and economic shakeups, the Tax Foundation’s 2009 Survey of U.S. Attitudes on Taxes, Government Spending and Wealth Distribution shows that American opinions on tax issues have not changed markedly since 2007, the last time the survey was done. Issues of tax complexity, fairness and burdens continue to be important to the American people.
“To test whether U.S. adults view their tax burdens as too high or too low, the poll asked what the maximum percentage of a person’s income should go to all taxes-federal, state and local. This year, the average response given is 15.6 percent.
“‘This average is significantly lower than he Tax Foundation’s estimates of the nation’s actual average total tax burden: 28.2 percent of income,’ said Matt Moon, the Tax Foundation’s Manager of Media Relations, and author of the report on this year’s survey, Tax Foundation Special Report No. 166.”

First off, in response to jiml1956, I have a couple of books you might want to read. The first is a play by Ibsen called “An Enemy of the People” and the second is of course “1984.” Read them and then dare to ask such a ridiculous question as you posed on here earlier. Being in the current political minority does not make our opinions and beliefs wrong, it only makes them unpopular. Frankly, I have learned very quickly that this lack of popularity is not due to any genuine disbelief in our way of thinking but rather in outrage that we would dare to voice the fears that everyone else has but won’t admit to. We live in a society where people continually try to pretend that everything is just peaches because it’s easier that way. I’m tired of all of the pretense…doesn’t it make you sick to lie to yourselves?
What’s worse is that it starts at the highest chain of command. I am absolutely disgusted with the way that our current President tries to be something that he isn’t. I am sick of hearing about how he “worked his way up” and blah, blah, blah. I mean really, cry me a f***ing river. The worst part is that if he had donated the money he spent on his daughters’ private education to the Chicago school system–as he says we all should be doing–then he really COULD have made a difference. Everyone on here–regardless of their political affliation–knows that schools that do poorly suffer from a lack of funding. Instead of just keeping the status quo for his two fithy rich brats, he could have helped thousands of children–including said rich brats who would have learned a valuable lesson. Several ignorant people on here have made comments about Republicans all being privately schooled–well I have a reality check for you! I went to public school and I HAVE had to work my way through life–and I don’t regret it one bit. In fact, I got an excellent education at a public school through the International Baccalaureate Program. Frankly, I learned more there than I did at the private university I went to after high school where I paid $40,000 a year to hold wooden clothes pins above glass flasks because bunsen burners cost too much money…
Now, I’m 26 and broke as can be, but I don’t WANT the government to give me money because it is my right and my responsibility to pursue happiness on my own. Looking for handouts is just a cop out that gets you nowhere in the long run. Last year I made $12,000 and I barely had money to eat…and I’m NOT complaining, just providing an example. I never once thought of going to get food stamps or applying for welfare because it’s not the right thing for me. I would rather struggle on my own than beg scraps off of someone else’s table.
So when you say all Repbulicans are spoiled, rich people you really should think again. Some of us are simply realists because we KNOW what it means to have no money–and like it or not the US has NO money to spend on causes right now–regardless of how worthy or unworthy they may be. And yes folks, this does include education and health care. No matter how nice daydreams are, they are still only idle fantasies. They just aren’t viable in the real world. Kindly wake up and stop demanding things that don’t exist…

What a sham! The Obamas did not “share the wealth” enough and give to charity. If you want others to give all they’ve got then, you have to also.

“There are, in every country, some magnificent charities established by individuals. It is, however, but little that any individual can do, when the whole extent of the misery to be relieved is considered. He may satisfy his conscience, but not his heart. He may give all that he has, and that all will relieve but little. It is only by organizing civilization upon such principles as to act like a system of pulleys, that the whole weight of misery can be removed.”
~Tom Paine
… who goes on to advocate establishment of social security, for both the elderly and the young, abolishment of inheritance and the landed monopoly. Further,
“There could be no such thing as landed property originally. Man did not make the earth, and, though he had a natural right to occupy it, he had no right to locate as his property in perpetuity any part of it; neither did the Creator of the earth open a land-office, from whence the first title-deeds should issue.”
While the founders were in general of the better off classes, it was Paine’s arguments which persuaded the ordinary Americans to fight.

VERY charitable people!

i would think that someone making $2.6 million a year who is wedded to redistributing wealth would be fessing up a bit more than 7% of his annual income. he could have given away 2/3 of his income and still had nearly $900,000 left over. he’s sure a lot more “charitable” with the taxpayers’ money than he is with his own.

“This carefully-crafted strategy has led to the wealthiest members of congress having (D)’s in front of their names. In fact, more then half of all the millionaires in congress are democrats, but i am sure you will never hear that mentioned on cnn.”
Probably because its a useless statistic given how large an edge in members of Congress the Democrats have (they hold nearly 60% of the seats).
But I bet you heard it on FoxNews.
They thank you for your gullibility.

Ryan C–”Probably because its a useless statistic given how large an edge in members of Congress the Democrats have (they hold nearly 60% of the seats).”– Okay, then useing your logic, the actual number of rich dems is equal to the number of rich repubs.. the difference it this.. republicans support a free market system where profit is based on ability and effort. Democrats thrive on telling the “common man” that the wealthy are the cause of problems that the country faces. Its seems pretty apparent, especially in light of recent events that today’s democrats enjoy the same level of wealth as republicans but seem to be the only party to condemn the other side for the same level of wealth that they enjoy. I find it hard to stomach the fact that a president who madeover 2 million last year is outraged that some execs took 1 million dollar bonuses to stay on at a failing company (AIG) long enough to right the ship before they collect their pink slips and depart. I find it even MORE deplorable that Barney Frank and company violated the constitution in assessing a 90 percent tax on the 160 million in bounuses at AIG but said not a word about the 200 million in bonuses handed out to Fannie Mae execs even though Fannie is far more responsible for our current situation than AIG is.. (Maybe he wasn’t upset with fannie becasue of the 400,000 he received from them). The hypocracy of this administration and teh democratically controlled congress is far worse than who is or isn’t “rich”…

Flash–”There could be no such thing as landed property originally. Man did not make the earth, and, though he had a natural right to occupy it, he had no right to locate as his property in perpetuity any part of it;”— again this excerpt was written to dipose the GOVERNMENTS authority to maintain land “in perpetuity” against is rightful owners (the citizenry). This would have served well as an argument against Imminent Domain issues more than it would have against any issues of private ownership including the passage of held lands to subsequent generations. To read it any other way would be to summize that Paine felt that any land held by private citizens should revert to the government upon their death. I hardly think he would have garnered much support from the populus had this been the message he was conveying..

Coffee Party we need to organise and campaign- Too little tax and Charitable donations LOL
All you…………..go free yourslves instead of sending off all the tea bags. Spend less and live within your means- you might perhaps break free from being taxed so heavily and start reaping dividends.
Go and do your homework and figure out who is looking out for for your good in the long term
Mr President, I do appreciate your contribution – I hope more will follow your example and pay their taxes and give generously.

the thing i’ve always found odd about liberals’ approach to money is that it is, at one and the same time, the cause of and answer to all our problems. why is everything going to hades in a handbasket? because of money. what’s the way to keep us out of the handbasket? throw money at the problem. there is no doubt something oxymoronic about a left-wing multimillionaire. that’s about on par with the absurdity of gay republicans. it would appear that both groups consist of people who are apparently idiologically opposed to their own lifestyles. very weird.

“You are missing the whole point with your blind defense of the rich democrats in power.”
My blind defense was debunking your right wing lies.
“All I was demonstrating with my mention of the private jets and ultra-rich democrats in power is that they are hypocrites.”
Yes its an old right wing talking point that the rich can’t care for the poor.
Or that wealth disqualifies one from acting in the working class’s interest.
Its BS.
“The liberals use saul alinsky’s tactics of pushing their socialist policies through”
ROFLMAO!
You really have no idea who Saul Alinsky was or what his tactics are.

“Stay Optimistic – It is early days yet. I have confidence in the President’s vision for the Country and likewise I am optimistic about my vision for my self”
To paraphrase Field Marshal Rommel: “Yes, you can afford to be optimistic…I can’t.”
This spending isn’t something that years from now when it doesn’t work we can just shrug our shoulders and say, “Oh well, at least we gave it the old college try.”
Somebody, somewhere down the line is going to start crying on the campaign trail about how ‘something must be done about this out of control budget!!!’…and folks will nod and agree, forgetting who/what brought it about in the first place.
And we’ll see higher taxation…if that’s possible given what they’re doing to us already.
Perhaps those who pay little or no income tax are willing to gamble with the rest of our incomes and jobs?