Today’s Qs for O’S WH

Undertaking a review on the flyover = hoping people forget about it. Obviously, asking Caldera about his choices won’t take a week.
Specter is beholden to Obama now. There’s no way Rendell holds off other Democrats or Obama campaigns for Specter if Specter doesn’t vote the way Obama wants him to.
Obama’s already told some Blue Dogs he’s keeping track of them.
On the other hand, Specter has already shown he’s willing to vote for Obama’s spending.

“Undertaking a review on the flyover = hoping people forget about it. Obviously, asking Caldera about his choices won’t take a week.”
I am guessing his resignation is accepted within a week.

Nothing here to blame on W or the Rs so let’s just move on. Right Ryan?

MayBee:”Undertaking a review on the flyover = hoping people forget about it.”
I doubt it. Obama probably just doesn’t want to make a knee jerk decision without any information. If Caldera called the NYPD and got a hearty, “Sounds fine here – give ‘em a good show!” back, and then let the mayor’s office know and was told “No problem here,” then that is very different than if he just sent a fax and never had a dialogue.
In hindsight it is obvious, but if the local authorities did not predict this reaction, who should have?
Reality matters, not just going from the gut to make the headline writers happy.

Dem. Senator Kent Conrad just told us that everyone will be getting a tax hike soon. He also tell us that this tax-cut/welfare in the stimulus will be over soon and those taxes will be going up.
Although I find it hard to imagine that Obama will do anything to cut his massive welfare increase.
He programs will however lead to higher unemployment and therefore the extra welfare dollars will be required .
They intend to pass Health Care reform tomorrow and now need to pay for it somehow, and don’t know how.
EVEry country with National health care runs an average 10% unemployment because it is an impossible program to run with out privare competition.
Obama is destroyiing the country and our way of life.
But hey, those union supporters sure are making out.
OBAMA just handed 40% of GM to the UAW and then handed 55% of Chrysler to the UAW.

“I think it’s been characterized that the president was furious upon learning of — of this decision.”
When will Mr. Transparency let us see the manifest for that flight?

“EVEry country with National health care runs an average 10% unemployment”
The truth is there are quite a few countries with nationalized health care that have lower unemployment than the US to say nothing of below 10%, among them Canada, UK, Ireland, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, Portugal, Brazil, Peru, Austrailia, New Zeland.
France and Germany are slightly above the US in unemployment but they are below 10%.

drjohn:”When will Mr. Transparency let us see the manifest for that flight?”
When will we see the manifest for the 2004 VC-25 flight over Mt Rushmore? It’s been 5 years – what are Republicans still hiding? I assume you’re also after that?

“In a memo obtained by CBS 2 HD the Federal Aviation Administration’s James Johnston said the agency was aware of “the possibility of public concern regarding DOD (Department of Defense) aircraft flying at low altitudes” in an around New York City. But they demanded total secrecy from the NYPD, the Secret Service, the FBI and even the mayor’s office and threatened federal sanctions if the secret got out.”

“In a paper written with Katherine Bradley, Rector said that under the stimulus measure, ‘the federal government will pay 80 percent of cost for each new family that a state enrolls in welfare.’
Who is Rector?
Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation.
Oh, well then we can ignore his opinion when it comes to welfare.

“Oh, well then we can ignore his opinion when it comes to welfare.”
Apart from making an ad hominem attack on Rector, can you offer any substantive response to the analysis? Do you believe that it is in some way incorrect? If so, can you explain how?

“Currently [pre-stimulus], welfare recipients are limited to a total of five years of federal benefits over a lifetime. They’re also required to begin working after two years of government support. States are accountable for helping their needy citizens transition from handouts to self-sufficiency. Critically, the funds provided to states are fixed appropriations by the federal government.
“Through a little noticed provision of the stimulus package that has passed the House of Representatives, the bill creates a fund for TANF [Temporary Assistance to Needy Families] that is open-ended — the same way Medicare and Social Security are.
“In the section of the House bill dealing with cash assistance to low-income families, the authors inserted the bombshell phrase: ‘such sums as are necessary.’ This is a profound departure from the current statutory scheme, despite the fact that, in this particular bill, state TANF spending would be capped. The ‘such sums’ appropriation language is deliberately obscure. It is a camel’s nose provision intended to reverse Clinton-era legislation and create a new template for future TANF reauthorizations.”
Anyone care to respond on the merits?
Muster up some courage: defend the massive welfare increase if you like it, but don’t deny that it has occurred.

“No. Saying that his opinion can therefore be ignored is.”
Oh, I just thought it was a good rule of thumb.

Not a rule of thumb, a fallacy:
“An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.”
If you had a response on the merits, I assume you would have presented it by now.

“Times of London:”
Hmmmm silly me, I just realized that hyena is posting opeds from a month and a half ago.
That Specter thing must really hurt.

“Not a rule of thumb, a fallacy:”
Ad-hominem is only a fallacy in pure logical reasoning, but that’s not what this comment board is necessarily intended for. In a courtroom for example it is absolutely standard procedure to try and discredit a hostile witness. Besides you guys do it all the time.

The Buck Stops At Mr Caldera.

I firmly believe that, when you strip everything tangential away, right-wing ideology is based on the twin principles of Fear and Greed.

“Yet you have no answer for why Obama forced the NYC flyover in spite of being aware that it would cause a panic.”
Because I highly doubt Obama was even aware of the photo op.

Ryan C, I am a democrat but have to admit that your endless rants blaming everything on right wingers is getting old. Give it a rest before you become irrelevent.

“I think I’ll knock off for a beer right about now.”
Me too! ‘See’ you all later I’m sure.

Jeff, do you have a quote for that? I must have missed Obama taking credit for rescuing the ship captain, and I can’t find it anywhere on the internet.
Fascist Hyena, where in the stimulus did it cut the work requirement from TANF? I must have missed that too…doesn’t seem to appear anywhere on the internet either, not even at Heritage or other right wing shills.
(for those who are wondering, the stimulus set aside funds for any state that experiences a dramatic increase in caseloads due to the Bush depression – which is not really that likely due to the onerous requirements to apply in most states)
The reason the far right is trying to push welfare right now is that they were fairly successful in getting the media to convince people, quite contrary to the facts, that welfare was something non-white people got, and they are trying to stir up the racists.

Good riddance Spector! McCain and Snow leave next. We need real Americans, not socialist sympathizers! Our tea parties showed how we are taking back America with real Americans. Wait and see! God bless!