Arnold Hypothesizes POTUS Told U.S. Automakers To Go Along With New Enviro Regs for Federal $
After today’s major environmental announcement at the White House where President Obama announced major new national auto emissions and fuel efficiency standards, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was asked what changed to get the U.S. automakers to agree to standards they’d been fighting against for decades.
"Agreements like that are all about timing," said Schwarzenegger. "Sometimes you hit the wall. You can’t get anywhere and then other times when there’s a crisis, like you have right now, all of a suddenly the car manufacturers, you know, they needed the money, they needed the taxpayers’ money. They needed the federal government to help them.
"And in order to get that help, I’m sure that President Obama said, ‘Okay, if we’re going to give you that help, but here’s what you need to do,’" Schwarzenegger suggested. "And so I think that certain things changed very quickly because of that. So when there is a crisis, there is great opportunities."
White House press secretary Robert Gibbs rejected that the billions in bailout dollars had anything to do with the decisions by General Motors and Chrysler to go along with today’s announcement.
"It didn’t play a role," Gibbs said.*
– jpt
* Updated with correct Gibbs quote

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They should be beholding to POTUS.. he’s saving their jobs.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 19, 2009, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm
Auhnold in a clown car, the image would be priceless.
Posted by: bill-tb | May 19, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
If it weren’t banned because of his foreign birth, I would put Arnold as the Republican’s best chance to take the Whitehouse in 2012. That comment was the most skillful political hit I’ve seen come from the Right since before they went religious – beautiful, and he didn’t need to lie or exaggerate to make it.
Posted by: jhw539 | May 19, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
Arnold is incompetent and he should resign. Why anybody thought that an uneducated actor whose resume consists of saying “I’ll be back” could run the fifth largest economy in the world is beyond me.
Now he’s trying to remake himself as an environmentalist in an attempt to keep the support of the wealthy in CA who really only care about the environment, animal rights, etc. You know, things that have little or nothing to do with those icky miidle class and poor people.
Posted by: bubbles | May 19, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
Really, Mr. Gibbs. Really! Are you sure you don’t want to check on that?
Posted by: jim | May 19, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Arnold told the truth. Gibbs lied.
Posted by: Dina | May 19, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
You would think that Arnold has his hands full and needs a lot of Federal funding.. not a great day to be slinging.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 19, 2009, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
So what’s the BD? Does anyone really think there are no strings attached to billions of dollars in bailout? There SHOULD be concessions made to get the money. So this is a story, why?
Posted by: William J. LePetomane | May 19, 2009, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm
Well I do not know how Arnold would know,and I doubt that he does, but I do not care, it needed to be done.
I assume then Jake that you oppose the new standards.
Posted by: Thinking | May 19, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Do we get to wear sweaters soon and wait in gas lines, like we did in the Carter Administration? I am feeling nostalgic for the Yugos I so remember from high school.
Posted by: Mary M | May 19, 2009, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
So what they took The Bailout their Should Be strings attached
Posted by: Angie in Pa | May 19, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
Well, with Bam and the Unions at the controls, at least we’ll finally get to see that infamous 100-mile/gal. engine we’ve always heard the industry fat cats were sitting on all these years. Power to the people! Where’s Preston Tucker when we need him?
Posted by: kevin23451 | May 19, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Looks like the taxpayers are paying all GM debt in full, through a dummy corportation, forgiving all the billions in bailout, and then giving the company to the UAW and some other undesignated bondholders.
Bend over taxpayers Obama just bought himself a heap of political support at your expense! Of course the jobs are still going to China.
Read a partial of the article from Reuters below. I am sure you won’t find it on US media outlets:
NEW YORK, May 19 (Reuters) – General Motors Corp’s (GM.N) plan for a bankruptcy filing involves a quick sale of the company’s healthy assets to a new company initially owned by the U.S. government, a source familiar with the situation said on Tuesday.
Posted by: MNM | May 19, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
I had a 1200cc safety orange corolla, 1973 model.. a 4 speed, no a/c, am radio.. I loved that car.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 19, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
“There SHOULD be concessions made to get the money.”
They shouldn’t have got any money at all–the government has no business taking money from taxpayers and giving it to an auto company and a labor union just so they can keep losing money.
And any concessions that are made ought to be spelled out in advance.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 19, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
Arnold left his home state today to go back for this ridiculous photo-op. When he returns he will discover that in his absence the voters of this state lowered his trousers and ended his career. I can’t wait to watch the returns tonight.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 19, 2009, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
The rest of the article claims they are supposed to try to negotiate before the bankruptcy, but the unions have no incentive to deal or negotiate.
If they sit tight they get the company and no debt all tied up in a bow.
Obama will make out big time on this in future elections.
Bend over taxpayers, none of this helps the economy, it only helps Obama and his union buddies.
Posted by: MNM | May 19, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Looks like the taxpayers are paying all GM debt in full, through a dummy corportation, forgiving all the billions in bailout, and then giving the company to the UAW and some other undesignated bondholders.
Bend over taxpayers Obama just bought himself a heap of political support at your expense! Of course the jobs are still going to China.
Read a partial of the article from Reuters below. I am sure you won’t find it on US media outlets:
NEW YORK, May 19 (Reuters) – General Motors Corp’s (GM.N) plan for a bankruptcy filing involves a quick sale of the company’s healthy assets to a new company initially owned by the U.S. government, a source familiar with the situation said on Tuesday.
The source, who would not be named because he was not cleared to speak with the media, did not specify a purchase price. The new company is expected to honor the claims of secured lenders, possibly in full, according to the source.
The remaining assets of GM would stay in bankruptcy protection to satisfy other outstanding claims.
GM has about $6 billion in secured debt, including a secured revolving credit and bank debt.
The government’s plans include giving stakes in the new company to GM’s union and bondholders, although the ownership structure of the company is still being negotiated, said the source who is familiar with the company’s plans.
In addition, the government would extend a credit line to the new company and forgive the bulk of the $15.4 billion in emergency loans that the U.S. has already provided to GM, the source said.
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This is just too much. If they have actually set up this dummy corporation to do this and pay off the unions IT IS IMPEACHMENT TIME.
THIS IS THE MOST OPENLY CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION EVER.
Posted by: MNM | May 19, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
The UAW paid their dues.. to the DNC.. they understand paying dues, they do it every time they clock in. POTUS was suddenly in a postition to do their collective bargaining.. he consulted with himself and decided to go along with his own decision.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 19, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
“Arnold left his home state today to go back for this ridiculous photo-op. When he returns he will discover that in his absence the voters of this state lowered his trousers and ended his career.”
Arnold was term limited and unlikely to contend for either Senate spot.
His elected career was likely over regardless of today’s vote.
Meanwhile at the back at Clown College:
“I had initially thought that the RNC sources complaining to the Washington Times about the salaries of new staffers under Michael Steele were engaging in typical carping and office politics, but some of the numbers are pretty eye-opening: “[Belinda] Cook, Mr. Steele’s personal assistant, earned $7,134.66 for the month, after withholding for federal and state taxes, which would amount to $85,615.92 over 12 months. The person who held the same post under Mr. Duncan took home $2,436.74 monthly, or $29,240.88 over 12 months, FEC reports showed.”
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
“IT IS IMPEACHMENT TIME.”
ROFLMAO!
Best right wing delusion of the day!
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
The union payoffs are not the same as helping the workers.
When Chrysler was given to the Unions they decided to move jobs to Mexico.
The unions are all about the unions. The jobs were lost anyway after they got their payoff.
And why would Obama/Geithner ever set up a company “initially owned by the US government” if not to try to hide all of this.
There is no need for another company to pay off the debt. Why not just go through the treasury, if it was all kosher, but we know it isn’t
This is flagrant corruption and someone just blew the whistle.
I suspect the media will remain silent on this but people need to speak up and hold Obama accountable.
Posted by: MNM | May 19, 2009, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
—General Motors is telling U.S. lawmakers that it plans to import cars from China starting in 2011, Automotive News reports citing a planning document circulating in Congress. GM would become the first major automaker to bring Chinese cars to the U.S. It would import 17,335 the first year, tripling that volume to 51,546 in 2014, according to the report, dated last Tuesday.—
Congratulations to the new GM CEO, Barack Obama, for his successful OUTSOURCING program!
Posted by: Inconvenient Truth | May 19, 2009, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
“Congratulations to the new GM CEO, Barack Obama, for his successful OUTSOURCING program!”
GM importing Chinese cars is outsourcing?
The stupid, it burns.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
The people of California only have themselves to blame. What were they think? Electing a Austrian bad actor/body builder for governor. I hope they don’t elect that adulterer Gavin Newsom.
Posted by: I hope he parked his Hummer | May 19, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
“Congratulations to the new GM CEO, Barack Obama, for his successful OUTSOURCING program!”
GM importing Chinese cars is outsourcing?
The stupid, it burns.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009 4:14:49 PM
Yes. Cars made overseas, not by American union workers. That’s outsourcing. Obama’s brilliant intervention in the auto industry is costing American jobs. Love that Hope and Change yet?
Posted by: I Have a Gift, Harry. | May 19, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
GM importing Chinese cars is outsourcing?
The stupid, it burns.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009 4:14:49 PM
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Oh yeah you are right Ryan. Giving the company to the Unions, debt free, thanks to payoffs by Obama from taxpayer dollars, and then transferring the jobs overseas is simply corrupt and stupid.
Oh yeah, it is outsourcing the construction of the GM cars.
Just as after Chrysler unions got their payoff they announced plans to move the auto jobs to Mexico.
Whatever you call it America and the autoworkers lose. The taxpayers lost billions and billions of dollars, the autoworkers lost their jobs.
But Obama and his UAW union campaign supporters sure made out better than winning a huge lottery jackpot, all paid for by the taxpayer.
Bend over america Obama is sticking it to us again and again.
Obama is the most openly corrupt President ever.
Although he did try to hide some of this corruption through a dummy corp. this time.
Posted by: MNM | May 19, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
“Yes. Cars made overseas, not by American union workers. That’s outsourcing.”
The reference to GM was the importing of Chinese brand cars made in China for sale in the United States much like Chinese import American brand cars for sale.
You call that outsourcing?
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
The reference to GM was the importing of Chinese brand cars made in China for sale in the United States much like Chinese import American brand cars for sale.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009 4:26:52 PM
Surprise, the cars that GM sells in China are mostly built in….China, not the U.S. (from China Daily)
Now, GM under government management, will open the door for Chinese-built vehicles (previously unsuccessful) to be sold in the U.S., as part of GM’s business base.
Bottom line, GM will now sell more cars in America which are made overseas, and fewer which are made here. To stay in business–production outsourced, and jobs lost. That subject used to get Liberals upset in 2004, but I guess it doesn’t anymore.
Posted by: Scare Force One | May 19, 2009, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
“Yes. Cars made overseas, not by American union workers. That’s outsourcing.”
The reference to GM was the importing of Chinese brand cars made in China for sale in the United States much like Chinese import American brand cars for sale.
You call that outsourcing?
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009 4:26:52 PM
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I agree they will not be made by union autoworkers because they will be out of a job, and those jobs are being shipped to China , and the chrysler ones to mexico.
I don’t care what name you give it. The taxpayers were told we needed to sink billions into these companies because we could not afford to lose the jobs. They were too big to fail.
Instead those billions were inserted into Union leader pockets, the jobs went overseas and Obama bought himself a heap of support with taxpayer dollars for the next election.
The autoworkers lose, the taxpayers lose.
China and mexico the UAW leaders and Obama made out like no one in the history of the US. NO different than any other dictator raping the assets of a country and diverting them to assure his own power.
Chavez
Marcos
Cecescu
Hussein
Get it!
Posted by: MNM | May 19, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
MNM:”the jobs went overseas…”
And when GM factories in the US start up again, employing Americans to make cars to sell in America, shall we just add this to your list of fantasies about how Obama is evil? Right next to ‘He’s too weak to save Captain Phillips’ but before ‘Wait until the entire US is quarantined because he didn’t shut down the Mexican border!’
How many times do you have to be provably wrong before you start to think maybe, just maybe, you should base your opinions on facts?
Posted by: jhw539 | May 19, 2009, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm
Scare Force One | May 19, 2009 4:41:17 PM, didn’t GM have its chance? continuing to build Hummers and massive trucks? watching GM’s advertisements during the NCAA basketball finals you would think there was only a market for massive vehicles in the US. to stay in business GM is going to need to be competitive. hopefully the corporate welfare won’t last forever. meanwhile gas prices are going up in Texas.
Posted by: Paul Wall | May 19, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
Scare Force One | May 19, 2009 4:41:17 PM, didn’t GM have its chance? continuing to build Hummers and massive trucks? watching GM’s advertisements during the NCAA basketball finals you would think there was only a market for massive vehicles in the US. to stay in business GM is going to need to be competitive. hopefully the corporate welfare won’t last forever. meanwhile gas prices are going up in Texas.
Posted by: Paul Wall | May 19, 2009 5:17:48 PM
But the federal government controls GM now. Their answer is: buy more little cars from overseas, rather than try to build them here.
Posted by: Scare Force One | May 19, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
“I don’t care what name you give it.”
Yes who needs accuracy when I can attach loaded words to make my point.
That really sums up the right wing, forget facts and listen to my heated rhetoric.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 19, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
“When GM starts up again….”jhw539 It took roughly 48 months to go from drawing board to production line per model car and that was in good times and without having to re-tool and re-train their production line..Now with the new CAFE standards to take affect by 2012 it is going to be near impossible for GM or Chrysler (Fiat)to meet those standards..not only is GM and Chrysler losing time, but also losing experienced employees, production floor space…but most importantly “Brand Loyalty.” Other car manufacturers smell blood and are moving in and Obama is only chumming the waters….
Posted by: Parallax View | May 19, 2009, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
Might also remember, with the Fiat takeover, Chrysler is also effectively outsourcing the design work on the high fuel economy cars to Fiat. Historically, the US has been where companies outsourced their design work and R&D too, so, at the best case, we’ll be trading white collar work for welding bumbers. Woo hoo.
On long term expansion, I don’t really see how Chrysler is going to get any funds for expanding its US works, given the way the secured creditors got wiped out in the takeover. You would have to be pretty stupid to loan money to them, so even if they do manage to retain the blue collar jobs they have now, growth is not likely to happen here, when they can grow their China plants without risking their creditors. Best case, even if we keep the blue collars we’ve got, we’ll still get a soft outsourcing, with growth going somewhere else.
Seems to me that the only winners here are the unions, and its a pretty pyric victory at that. The rest of us get taken to the cleaners.
Posted by: Voyager | May 19, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
Arnold can us Democrats adopt you? Maybe future Obamacan? Arnold please think about this.
Posted by: Annie | May 19, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
“That really sums up the right wing, forget facts and listen to my heated rhetoric.”
Yeah, like forget Rasmussen.
Posted by: Mary M | May 19, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
Can’t get too excited. There are plenty of other car makers out there: BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi, Ford, not to mention Toyota and Nissan and Hundai. We can do without GM and Chrysler, although I will truly miss the Cadillac.
Posted by: russ in nc | May 19, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
At least Arnold was being honest. Gibbs “Obama did not bow to the Saudi king”…”getting the car companies to agree had nothing to do with the fact that we gave them $15 billion”. What a joke!
Posted by: Faldo | May 19, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
It’s entirely possible!
Posted by: LongT | May 19, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Gibbs rejected that the billions in bailout dollars had anything to do with the decisions by General Motors and Chrysler to go along with today’s announcement.
- We agree Gibbs but don’t you want to court Arnold too? On the stuff he does know about hes great. On the stuff he doesn’t know about like this us Democrats can teach him.
Posted by: Annie | May 19, 2009, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm
Isn’t it funny how America is the land that promotes competition – whether it’s a brand of butter, a car, a football or a basketball team. Yet Americans observe our giant US auto competitors turning to Washington to bail them out. We see giant monopolistic banks and insurance companies and mortgage companies doing the same thing. Imagine Jordan or Lebron or Kobe doing such a thing. The game is over. They lost fair and square. These companies can hardly be called “American” – these giants, with all their anti antitrust conspirators in Washington and all the barriers to entry, make a mockery and a joke of the American way. Truly pathetic. You won’t catch me driving their cars or banking in their banks — you can bank on that.
Posted by: shawn | May 19, 2009, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
“And when GM factories in the US start up again, employing Americans to make cars to sell in America, shall we just add this to your list of fantasies about how Obama is evil?”
The fantasy is assuming that Americans will continue to BUY cars from GM and Chrysler, whose businesses have been totally horked up by Obama and the unions. Billions in wasted bailout money (that we still have to pay for) and now the inevitable bankruptcies that should have occurred in the first place. Brilliant.
Toyota or Honda will be getting my future business.
Posted by: Chuck | May 19, 2009, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
At this point, buy anything that is not made by the two government motors companys..formerly GM and Chrysler.
At least Ford is doing it the good old American way. On their own.
Posted by: solstice21 | May 19, 2009, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
It seems to me that Arnold is trying to stir things up between the President and the automakers. He needs to stick with trying to dig out his own State before he starts speaking for the President or for that matter the Automakers and Michigan!!!
Posted by: flamingobaye | May 20, 2009, 8:15 am 8:15 am
“At least Ford is doing it the good old American way. On their own.”
I would have to agree. Ford went to the UAW and worked out some cost cutting measures. Ford also saved up a nest egg for a rainy day that they are using now. Ford has done the right thing and should be applauded for it. All at the same time increasing their customer satisfaction rating and quality control. Maybe Ford should be running the country…
Think I’ll buy a Ford next.
Posted by: KR | May 20, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am
“He needs to stick with trying to dig out his own State before he starts speaking for the President…”
I think Obama took over that responsibility when he told the government what he can and cannot do with the state budget after they took the bailout money. Seems the Governator doesn’t have much else to do except banter about the defacto Governer of California, Supreme Governer Obama.
Posted by: KR | May 20, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am
POTUS intertwining and collusion in the auto industry must be unconstitutional.
It seems that he is chief cook and bottle washer.. touching every facet of a bankruptcy, industry regulation, personnel.. if I was a nervous type, I would be very frightened.
This is definitely a page out of FDR’s book.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 20, 2009, 10:06 am 10:06 am
If Mr. Obama told the foolish, short-sighted auto makers that bailout would require higher MPG, then good for him! I doubt anything less would encourage these dinosaurs from driving toward extinction.
Posted by: DaveM | May 20, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
“If Mr. Obama told the foolish, short-sighted auto makers that bailout would require higher MPG, then good for him!”
Small thing your missing is that the law applies to all auto manufacturers, US, German, Japanese… most of which did NOT get bailout money, including Ford.
Posted by: KR | May 20, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
Union officials did not carry the labor vote in Mich., Ohio, & Ind. key to obamas securing the presidential election. The rank & file did it. Now we have the big doublecross – cars coming in from china, with “0″ UAW labor,at a 25% less overall cost.
Posted by: TR | May 20, 2009, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
KM – a increase in fuel economy is a great thing. All automakers can and should make it happen. All automakers SHOULD have done this before now. The foreign automakers are more agile with their R&D and should have no problem.
Posted by: DaveM | May 20, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Why are we continually screwing American business. We have suffering car companies so we shove a new CAFE standard down their throats. Then Obama wants to hit manufacturers with the cost of Cap and tax for using energy in production. It’s estimated up to 4800 people will die a year from these new CAFE standards because the cars will have to be lighter and more dangerous. Just who are we looking out for here? Americans? I don’t think so.
Posted by: Gary | May 20, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Looks like the idiot got caught on a related issue. Some of the pension funds which by law were guarenteed to be the first to get their money from Chrysler that the idiot called greedy and ignored the law have now filed suit to stop the bankruptcy and demand that the law be followed. The sooner we get rid of this idiot the better off we will be, he has no clue about anything and is quickly spending this country into bankruptcy.
Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | May 21, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Who’s going to buy a Chinese made car? I won’t!
It’s our buying foreign made products that is helping China to beef up their armies, and putting US citizens out of work.
Once the government gets through with the auto mfgs., no one will be able to afford a car.
Plus, government is putting a lot of other businesses in danger of shutting down, that are related to the auto business.
RV’s, RV parks, their suppliers, Steel industry, etc.
Be on the lookout for more job losses, while China gets all the jobs and fuel resources in the world.
Posted by: bobc | May 21, 2009, 9:19 am 9:19 am