White House Denies Charge By Attorney that Administration Threatened to Destroy Investment Firm’s Reputation*
A leading bankruptcy attorney representing hedge funds and money managers told ABC News Saturday that Steve Rattner, the leader of the Obama administration’s Auto Industry Task Force, threatened one of the firms, an investment bank, that if it continued to oppose the administration’s Chrysler bankruptcy plan, the White House would use the White House press corps to destroy its reputation.
The White House and a spokesperson for the investment bank in question challenged the accuracy of the story.
"The charge is completely untrue," said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, "and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way."
Thomas Lauria, Global Practice Head of the Financial Restructuring and Insolvency Group at White & Case, told ABC News that Rattner suggested to an official of the boutique investment bank Perella Weinberg Partners that officials of the Obama White House would embarrass the firm for opposing the Obama administration plan, which President Obama announced Thursday, and which requires creditors to accept roughly 29 cents on the dollar for an estimated $6.8 billion owed by Chrysler.
Lauria first told the story, without naming Rattner, to Frank Beckmann on Detroit’s WJR-AM radio.
Perella Weinberg Partners, Lauria said, "was directly threatened by the White House and in essence compelled to withdraw its opposition to the deal under the threat that the full force of the White House press corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight. That’s how hard it is to stand on this side of the fence."
A Perella Weinberg Partners spokesperson told ABC News on Sunday that “The firm denies Mr. Lauria’s account of events.”* The spokesperson would not elaborate.
Perella Weinberg Partners, which owned Chrysler debt through its Xerion Fund, was one of Lauria’s clients in this bankruptcy, but no longer is. The firm is led by Joseph Perella. On Thursday afternoon — after the Wedneday deadline — the portfolio manager for the Xerion fund decided to join the larger four creditors who are owed roughly 70% of Chrysler’s debt and had already agreed to participate with the administration’s plan.
Those four financial institutions – JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, and Goldman Sachs — are recipients of up to $100 billion in federal government bailout funds, though the Obama administration insists the matters were kept completely separate.
Someone familiar with the Perella Weinberg Partners’ portfolio manager’s thinking told ABC News that the decision to go along with the government plan "was based on an assessment of investment risk and reward and nothing else."
Lauria said his clients "are mainly fiduciaries for pension plans, college endowments, retirement plans and credit unions who invested in low yield supposedly very secure first lien debt" with Chrysler.
President Obama singled out Lauria’s clients for criticism when he announced the Chrysler plan on Thursday.
"While many stakeholders made sacrifices and worked constructively, I have to tell you some did not," the president said. "In particular, a group of investment firms and hedge funds decided to hold out for the prospect of an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout. They were hoping that everybody else would make sacrifices, and they would have to make none."
Lauria said the president’s assertion that his clients weren’t willing to make any sacrifice is false. The clients were willing to take 50 cents on the dollar from Chrysler for their debt, he said.
President Obama also said of Lauria’s clients, "I don’t stand with them. I stand with Chrysler’s employees and their families and communities. I stand with Chrysler’s management, its dealers, and its suppliers. I stand with the millions of Americans who own and want to buy Chrysler cars. I don’t stand with those who held out when everybody else is making sacrifices."
"He stands my clients up as basically the reason Chrysler is going into bankruptcy," Lauria said. "He wrongly says they’re not willing to make any sacrifice. And then he says he does not stand with us."
Lauria said the president saying he doesn’t stand with his clients "kind of sounds like ‘You’re fair game.’ In whatever sense. People are scared. They have gotten death treats. Some have been told people are going to come to their houses. God forbid if some nut did something, I’m just wondering how the president would feel."
The Miami area-based attorney describes himself as an independent, and says after waiting in line for six hours last November he ended up not voting in the presidential election. He donated $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2008 and $1,000 to then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, in 2006.
– jpt
* This post was updated with first the White House’s, and then Perella Weinberg Partners’, statements.
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leading bankruptcy attorney representing hedge funds and money managers told ABC News Saturday that Steve Rattner, the leader of the Obama administration’s Auto Industry Task Force, threatened one of the firms, an investment bank, that if it continued to oppose the administration’s Chrysler bankruptcy plan, the White House would use the White House press corps to destroy its reputation.
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So he claims.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 3:30 pm 3:30 pm
How dare President Obama bailing out all the banks and auto corps and overlook the organization that has been around since the days of Lincoln. An organization is this bankrupt and desperately needing help. An organization that has been a mainstay of American history. They have had bad leadership and horrible management and public relations but I believe they are worth saving.
Help them PLEASE Mr President
THE GOP NEED YOU.
NOW.
Posted by: Omentum | May 2, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
hey thinking, this guy is a Democrat. So perhaps the “he’s a liar” chants could get a rest?
Lauria said the president saying he doesn’t stand with his clients “kind of sounds like ‘You’re fair game.’ In whatever sense. People are scared. They have gotten death treats. Some have been told people are going to come to their houses. God forbid if some nut did something, I’m just wondering how the president would feel.”
The Miami area-based attorney describes himself as an independent, and says after waiting in line for six hours last November he ended up not voting in the presidential election. He donated $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2008 and $1,000 to then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, in 2006.
Posted by: the Truth | May 2, 2009, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
I have no doubt the WH would make threatening comments like this. It is all about image and polls for them. Forget the fact the “deal” harms the individual investors in this company (and others). People like your families and neighbors. How does it feel to be in the WH Press Corps (not you Tapper) and be mentioned as the “enforcers” in this administration?? Thanks Jake for bringing this out and please continue informing the public on the situation…you have courage and conviction in your profession and obviously will not be used as a lap dog!
Posted by: annie | May 2, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
And, so it begins…
The press is complicit in this thuggery and is, in fact, a propaganda tool and now arm-twisting accomplice in the Obama Administration. How’s that for enchanting…
It is a sad day.
Posted by: ByeByeRepublic | May 2, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
Tapper:
Rattner did the same thing to the TARP lenders to get them to play ball – using TARP as leverage. The Obama White House is lying about this: WAPO:
At a meeting with executives from four of the nation’s largest banks earlier this month, the chief of the government’s auto task force, Steven Rattner, delivered a message that shocked some in the room.
To save Chrysler, he told them, the four banks and several other financial firms would have to surrender their claims to most of the $7 billion the automaker owed them. And what would the banks get in return for this sacrifice? Nothing.
“People’s jaws just dropped,” said a person familiar with the discussions.
The banks — J.P. Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs — have all since balked at the government’s proposal. This week, they are drafting a counteroffer.
But those four banks are themselves recipients of billions of dollars in government largesse. Collectively, they have received $90 billion from the rescue program for the country’s banks. Now, their critics say, the firms have an obligation to cooperate as the government seeks to save Chrysler.
Posted by: the Truth | May 2, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
“So he claims.”
Please give us any reasons you might have for doubting his claim.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
Very poorly written article — it’s almost certainly drudge bait.
The “source’s” motivation is buried –”Perella Weinberg Partners, which owned Chrysler debt through its Xerion Fund, was one of Lauria’s clients in this bankruptcy, but no longer is”
and
“Before the Thursday deadline, Joseph Perella and Peter Weinberg tried to join the larger creditors — JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, and Goldman Sachs — who are owed roughly 70% of Chrysler’s debt and had already agreed to participate with the administration’s plan.”
The guy held out for a better deal and failed, then he got fired by his client.
Plain and simple.
It’s about time they got tough with these banksters.
Posted by: Dave Smi | May 2, 2009, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
What else do you expect from a thin-skinned bully?
Obama has bought into the media hype and public adoration. He has a taste of power and is used to getting his way.
When BO doesn’t get his way he mocks and belittles those who threaten him.
Posted by: max | May 2, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
hey thinking, this guy is a Democrat. So perhaps the “he’s a liar” chants could get a rest?
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He is an attorney doing what they do for their clients in anyway he can, period.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“So he claims.”
Please give us any reasons you might have for doubting his claim.
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The White House said the story was false.
“The charge is completely untrue,” said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, “and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
1. Jack is the only MSM reporter in America adhering to journalistic principles and not goosestepping like the OPrvadamas elsewhere in the media.
2. Does anyone doubt this story is entirely possible? Think of how Obama first got elected into office (most Obamabots likely don’t even know). The thugocracy is here folks, this is just the beginning. Who else would support the abolition of the secret ballot withiin unions? The Obama administration is going to be worse than the worst things said about Bush. They’ll make Nixon and LBJ look like whimps.
Posted by: KSM | May 2, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
Go to Gateway Pundit’s front-page 5/2 post about the threats.
There is also an audio commentary by Mark Levin.
Posted by: Michelle | May 2, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Obama isn’t the wonderful thoughtful guy all of the kool-aid drinkers think he is.
His approval index has fallen 27 points in 100 days.
As he mocks the tea parties, outs the CIA, wastes taxpayers money,flips on promises, makes veiled threats to investment managers–more and more Americans will wake up.
Posted by: nick | May 2, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
They bring a knife, you bring a gun.
They send one of yours to the hospital, you send one of theirs to the morgue.
Thats the Chicago way.
Posted by: not buying the bull | May 2, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
press is in obamas pocket is what i get i noticed that twice in news conferances lately the leader in cable news didnt get to ask a question.which i believe is because they question things not, like hows the dog ,do you like airforce one,we need ballance people want ballance,we wanna know the good and the bad.then the americans can make up our own mind if the countrys in the right directon
Posted by: i_dream_of_a_jeannie | May 2, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Obama is drunk with power and his supporters/media are blinded by love.
Posted by: bailey | May 2, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Scare Force One
Soon people will be running away fron Obama instead of toward him.
Posted by: fran | May 2, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Why is anyone surprised? This is mob mentality! This is who they are.
Posted by: KansasGirl | May 2, 2009, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
the Chicago political machine revs up in D.C.
should surprise no one.
Posted by: jaungalt | May 2, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Thanks for helping get this story out Jake- keep digging for the truth- one way or the other. You’re one of the few real journalists left in Washington.
Posted by: Oh Please | May 2, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
“The charge is completely untrue,” said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, “and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”
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It’s hard to know what is true. We do know the Obama White House is very clear that they believe in public shaming to change even legal behavior.
We also know they were instrumental in both keeping the AIG bonuses and ginning up the pitchfork crowds against them, then telling the bankers he stands between them and the pitchforks.
We also know President Obama himself will obfuscate when it comes to putting out the facts regarding these kinds of dealings (witness his answer to Ed Henry in the second prime time press conference).
I do think the WH press needs to remember to be on its toes. *If* it’s true President Obama believes he can manipulate them enough to tell his story as fact, they need to guard against that.
Posted by: MayBee | May 2, 2009, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Now that the WH threat has been made public Obama better cancel the busload of ACORN protesters.
Isn’t that how Obama/Democrats get what they want?
Send a mob of obnoxious protesters out at taxpayers expense to intimidate those who don’t agree?
Posted by: max | May 2, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
Jake, this is the kind of story, that this White House is all about. Black listing individuals that are americans. WE knew this was coming. We knew it. This needs to be the nightly headline evey night for the rest of the year.
Posted by: Heavenislikethis | May 2, 2009, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
“use the White House press corps to destroy its reputation.” Sounds like normal Democrat party policy….. just WATCH the White House daily press conferences…. It’s quite obvious the media has been very accommodating to BO and his lackeys’….. same thing BO is doing by releasing classified documents to the press…..
Posted by: unscrupulousmedia | May 2, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Obama = Cheney
Bush = Biden
Rahm = Rove
2009 = 2008
Posted by: fish | May 2, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
THUGGERY. Pure and simple thuggery. It’s like the mob…and it is anti American at it’s core.
We warned people about this prior to the election, yet, big business voted for this criminal…people who should have seen the writing on the wall…still…they voted for this megalomaniac.
WAKE UP, AMERICA.
Posted by: Diane | May 2, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
The BO bullies…… Just gives businesses one more reason to move to other countries….
Posted by: unscrupulousmedia | May 2, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
How come Rattner hasn’t said anything?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
Obama thinks he’s a big man by threatening investors who don’t comply.
When it comes to the terrorist BO is worried about scaring them with bugs, water, or cold temperatures.
Yea Obama is a real tough guy.
I feel safer.
Posted by: mike | May 2, 2009, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm
It’s my sad duty to rain on the parade:
“Historical polling data shows Obama’s popularity during his first 100 days is right in the middle of the scores other new presidents received from the public over the past 60 years.
“Obama’s 63 percent average, according to a study released by Gallup last month, is the highest for a new president since Jimmy Carter (he clocked in at 69 percent during his first 100 days).
“But John F. Kennedy bested Obama by more than 10 points, with 74 percent. Dwight Eisenhower enjoyed a 71 percent rating early on.
“Even Richard Nixon averaged a 62 percent approval rating, just 1 point shy of Obama’s.
“Overall, Obama’s average for the first three months matched the historical average of 63 percent for presidents since Eisenhower.”
This guy has fooled people about as well as Nixon did, but not as well as Carter.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
This story is obviously false. The WH is not using the press corps to destroy reputations. The WH is using the president to destroy reputations.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 2, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Obama claims that when Fiatt pays back the government it will own a controling interest in the company. How can that be went the UAW will own 55% of the stock? Am I missing something here??
Posted by: ed | May 2, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
Is this where Obama says “I’m the only thing between you and the pitchforks”?
Obama threatens mob violence then he sends out the mob–kind of like the buses full of ACORN workers that went to the AIG exec homes.
We paid for that.
Sorry Obama, Americans are catching on.
Posted by: meg | May 2, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Once again, thank you, Jake. I have no idea what your political inclinations may be (a tremendous and rare virtue in a journalist, to be sure), but you are perhaps the only member of the WHPC who isn’t a complete shill for the Administration. To say the American people deserve more journalists like you would be a tremendous understatement.
Posted by: MSR | May 2, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton wasn’t there. Ask Steve Rattner and Attorney Thomas Lauria to answer the question under oath and see who purgers them self.
Posted by: tillyerkt | May 2, 2009, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm
Time to start keying cars with Obama bumperstickers. Make the people pay who put this thug and his criminal crew in office. Do it with random acts.
Posted by: Al Gibson | May 2, 2009, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm
Why, I believe this calls for an investigation. We need to get to the bottom of this.
Congressional hearing … I want both Rattner and Lauria to testify.
Maybe a special prosecutor … this can’t be swept under the rug.
Posted by: darwin | May 2, 2009, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Thank you Jake for being the one true journalist who asks the tough questions and reports the truth.
Posted by: ctmom | May 2, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
American voters are stupid , uneducated ,hyper-opinionated and egocentric to the nth degree. No clue about the issues = no objective dissection of the issues = The American voter (in general)
They think they can argue/discuss politics in depth and they can’t even properly define the word “fact” . Real einsteins for sure…
The “fact” is , don’t freeking blame the politicians for YOUR gross overt stupidity/bias . The American voter is where the buck stops ,and once they realize that “fact” maybe they will take questioning/examining/electing the leaders and representatives of this nation a bit more seriously .
Btw ,who voted for/elected Bush and the rest of the yayhoo Republicans who ran this country (into the ditch) for the last 8 years or so? Was it you?
I know I sure didn’t vote for him (or any Republican for that matter…)
Posted by: Not My Fault | May 2, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Man oh man, what has this nation become when you have a president trying to tell business how to operate or else. This is just the beginning folks, Obama will own you before its over.
Posted by: billy bob | May 2, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Let’s just be grateful that Obama is setting the precedent of prosecuting previous administrations, as it will make what the next administration does to his thugs in 2012 so much simpler.
Posted by: paul | May 2, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Time to start keying cars with Obama bumperstickers. Make the people pay who put this thug and his criminal crew in office. Do it with random acts.
Posted by: Al Gibson | May 2, 2009 5:06:39 PM
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Time to start keying cars with Obama bumperstickers. Make the people pay who put this thug and his criminal crew in office. Do it with random acts.
Posted by: Al Gibson | May 2, 2009 5:06:39 PM
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Yep Al ,you’re a punk.
Posted by: lol | May 2, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
NOT MY FAULT You described yourself well since you obviously voted for Obama. In about a year everyone will be saying it’s not my fault.
Posted by: billy bob | May 2, 2009, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
Obama misrepresented the “negotiation” with debtors who rejected his “deal they could not refuse.” Those debtors with whom he does not stand hold secured debt in Chrysler. They are entitled by law to stand at the front of the line in a bankruptcy proceeding. They rightfully rejected Obama’s offer of 30 cents on the dollar because the bankruptcy court must and will allow them to recover more of the money they loaned Chrysler. Obama knows this. So he resorts to heavy handed coercion. How is this any different than a mafia thug approaching a store owner and demanding protection money?
Posted by: jcarob | May 2, 2009, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
It’s not like 90% of the White House Press Corps wouldn’t be down for doing Obama’s bidding.
Savannah Guthrie NBC News: “Seeing Obama was like a dream sequence without the pink Unicorns”
New York Times Squish: “Hey Obama, you feeling enchanted”
The only two reporters who actually ask substancetive questions are Tapper and the Fox News Guy.
The Obama Crime Family Rolls on.
Posted by: robtr | May 2, 2009, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
So he resorts to heavy handed coercion. How is this any different than a mafia thug approaching a store owner and demanding protection money?
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Publicly outing conniving liars is good for the nation and bad for hedge funds.
Sounds like the right idea to me.
This is not even akin to thuggery in the least , this is a good government repudiating and admonishing back door thievery and racketeering .
GO MR OBAMA ,MAKE IT HURT!!
Posted by: Bart | May 2, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Jake, this is a very disturbing story, but not unexpected.
Thank you for reporting it.
Posted by: centralcal | May 2, 2009, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
NOT MY FAULT You described yourself well since you obviously voted for Obama. In about a year everyone will be saying it’s not my fault.
Posted by: billy bob | May 2, 2009 5:16:48 PM
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what do you mean “in about a year”?
that is all i have heard from republicans since obama was elected ,i.e. , “IT’S NOT REALLY OUR FAULT!!”.
LOSERS…ITS TOTALLY YOUR FAULT AND WE KNOW IT!!
Posted by: DEF | May 2, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Is this democracy or just the Chicago way?
Posted by: Dee | May 2, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Publicly outing conniving liars is good for the nation and bad for hedge funds.
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What makes the hedge funds conniving liars? Where would Chrysler be without their investment?
What about the investments of the people and groups the hedge funds represent?
Posted by: MayBee | May 2, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
“While many stakeholders made sacrifices and worked constructively, I have to tell you some did not,” the president said. “In particular, a group of investment firms and hedge funds decided to hold out for the prospect of an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout. They were hoping that everybody else would make sacrifices, and they would have to make none.”
Wow, you would think these evil bondholders were criminals sitting in Guantánamo Bay. Oh wait, Obama treats those criminals much better than bondholders exercising their legal rights.
Posted by: Roy Mustang | May 2, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
They rightfully rejected Obama’s offer of 30 cents on the dollar because the bankruptcy court must and will allow them to recover more of the money they loaned Chrysler.
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Hmmm….. Are sure of the number? Is there 30% to get? How many others had secured debt? Are youn going to tell me that those banks had unsecured debt?
About the only individuals I know who don’t have security are the stockholders.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
The way Obama’s administration gets out the message is by trading access for dissemination of talking points. Axelrod or Emmanuel calls in their stable of reliable contacts from the print and broadcast media. They dumb down the message du jour to a few key points and then their correspondents spread the word exactly as it was fed to them. You doubt that? Pay attention to the words during the next news cycle. Identical statements will be reported by a dozen supposedly independent “news” sources in a matter of hours. Moreover, there is no critical analysis, no differing views presented. That is how Axelrod and company shape the news and keep their guy in a positive light. Was Rove any different than Axelrod, the new Svengali? Probably not. Every president is entitled to have his or her own Axelrod. But the people of this country do not deserve to have the news served up by a bunch of sycophants passing themselves off as journalists.
Posted by: jcarob | May 2, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
What I find unbelievable is that this story has barely been covered. Yes, I want to khow what is happening. I want to know the truth. We need the press to do what they should be doing: reporting the truth. These are scary times and I am starting to be fearful. We do have separation of powers, so that bullying and threats can’t happen. Why isn’t the press all over this story???
Posted by: Gina | May 2, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Aww, sounds like the poor baby is upset because he’s being criticized.
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Posted by: jcarob | May 2, 2009 5:39:18 PM
Hey you 2 ,this post is for you!
Check it please.
Posted by: Not My Fault | May 2, 2009 5:12:34 PM
Scroll down until you see it ,then read.
It fits you both perfectly.
(btw your analysis of the white house press situation sounds more like fox news/hannity/rush/coulter ‘s diffuse rantings and the lemmings that repeat ad nausem without thought or question every word/lie they mumble.)
Posted by: kyle | May 2, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
NOT MY FAULT You described yourself well since you obviously voted for Obama. In about a year everyone will be saying it’s not my fault.
Posted by: billy bob | May 2, 2009 5:16:48 PM
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what do you mean “in about a year”?
that is all i have heard from republicans since obama was elected ,i.e. , “IT’S NOT REALLY OUR FAULT!!”.
LOSERS…ITS TOTALLY YOUR FAULT AND WE KNOW IT!!
Posted by: DEF | May 2, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
It’s time for these money makers to realize that the new President is NO PUSHOVER and any form of trying to benefit of the less powerful people in this country will NOT play well with the Obama administration …
Posted by: Blogger | May 2, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
Here is another take:
“Unlike many insurance policies, however, credit default swaps don’t require that holders own what they are insuring. So creditors, say Chrysler bondholders, can buy more CDS protection than they need to simply secure their debts in order to profit from bankruptcy.
As a result, some hedge funds and other investors that own Chrysler’s debt may make more money now that Chrysler has declared bankruptcy, triggering their credit default swaps to pay out, than if they had agreed to further concessions with the automaker.”
Back to AIG again, and Tax payer bailout?
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
Thanks Jake for being a real journalist and uncovering this story.
I do not trust or believe in government anymore and for sure do not believe that an Obama government will be a transparent one.
Posted by: lm | May 2, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
What makes the hedge funds conniving liars? Where would Chrysler be without their investment?
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A more appropriate question (and telling one as well ) would be : Where is Chrysler NOW?
Bankrupt ,but with a government that will greatly and genuinely help them to become a money making operation again ,as opposed to a money losing operation that has to employ shady hedge funds/cooking the books to turn a corporate profit (at least on paper…) and all of that b/s tacitly subsidized by the taxpayer (more-or-less under the radar )to begin with.
The other scenario (the hedge funders get their way) leaves Chrysler asking for more bailout $$ or cooking the books or whatever to support day-to-day operation ; THEY WERE NOT FINANCIALLY SOLVENT AND WOULD NOT ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO HOLD THE AMERICAN ECONOMY HOSTAGE FOR MORE BAILOUT $$ ,WHICH WAS ALL THIS WAS EVER ABOUT TO BEGIN WITH …CHRYSLER/THE HEDGE FUNDERS WANTED IT FOR FREE/ON THEIR TERMS AND WITH NO BANKRUPTCY HANDCUFFS TO WORRY ABOUT…GOOD JOB MR OBAMA , NOT ON YOUR WATCH!!
KUDOS SIR ,SOME OF US DO REALIZE YOU ARE HOLDING THESE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 8 YEARS AT LEAST ,THEY WON’T LIKE IT BUT YOU GO GO GO!!!
YAAAAAAAAAY MR OBAMA!!! FORCE THEM TO BE ETHICAL EVEN IF IT KILLS THEM!!
Posted by: Gart | May 2, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
NO! We don’t key cars or anything violent. That’s what the radical left does. We simlpy keep informed and inform others of the truths they aren’t hearing on the mainstream media. Keep a file of the controversial issues and the lies and half truths most are hearing. Have facts to back up what you know. We will vote the dems out of office next year if we are vigilant. Then let Obama try to get by with the things he does now. He will be like Clinton with a Republican majority Congress. That I can live with.
Posted by: peggy | May 2, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Kind of like when the WH denied that Obama bowed to the Saudi king.
And denied that Biden said what he really said.
BO supporters won’t even believe their own eyes you know they won’t believe this.
Posted by: tad | May 2, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
One, this is a he-said she-said thing – there is no evidence it happened.
Two, where did Obama name names here? I re-read the transcript, and it is completely anonymous.
Three, it’s MY money these guys were making a play for. The only way they were going to get more than they were offered is from more taxpayer money being ponied up. I hope the media follows up and reports how bankruptcy worked out for them.
And finally, the bully pulpit is a legitimate power of the Presidency. This wasn’t sicking the IRS on them, or deposing them in front of Congress. This was merely threatening to tell the TRUTH about how they were doing business. I don’t have much sympathy for tantrums about how backroom old-boys dealing may start to be exposed to the public.
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Tyranny:
When the people fear the government.
Posted by: nick | May 2, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
NO! We don’t key cars or anything violent. That’s what the radical left does.
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I find your statement interesting especially considering the poster said let key cars with Obama bumper stickers. How does that equate to that is what the radical left does?
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Here it is ,simple for you.
Chrysler : We need to be bailed out , or else we will go under and that will be very hurtful to your administration and perhaps/probably a gigantic disaster for the American economy to boot .(wink wink)
Mr Obama : You will have to accept our terms if you want help , you cannot dictate this issue.
Chrylser : Don’t you understand? If we go under , and we might (wink wink) ,it will spell big trouble for you ,and the American economy ,for years. So you should reconsider and let us have our way (or else)
Mr Obama : Look ,take this offer or sink to the bottom. And don’t try to blame me or my administration because I will CLEARLY show everyone in the world at length EXACTLY whose fault it is that Chrysler is where it is at present…busted and looking for a handout.
Chrysler: (as publicly as possible)
We accept your arm twisting offer (but only to save our conniving skins from jail /shareholders with tar/feathers/pitchforks)
Posted by: Brain? | May 2, 2009, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Death threats and mob mentality–sounds like ACORN.
This is what we pay them to do?
I thought their main job was to intimidate banks into giving loans to everyone.
Posted by: carrie | May 2, 2009, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
One of the released detainees could blow up half of NYC and die-hard Obama supporters would still support him.
But the people on the fringe that gave Obama a chance–I bet they won’t come back for seconds.
Posted by: max | May 2, 2009, 6:28 pm 6:28 pm
Has Rattner, the car czar, been fully vetted by the BO administration?
Posted by: tyler | May 2, 2009, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm
“One, this is a he-said she-said thing.”
No it isn’t. It’s Lauria said there was a threat from Rattner; Rattner doesn’t say anything at all. Lauria’s words are evidence.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
I swear you Obama supporters will say anything to cover for the guy, without having any idea of what you’re talking about mind you.
These hedge funds are peoples retirement accounts, they shouldn’t just on a decency standard be expected to be treated better then the UAW in this fiasco, they are legally required to be prioritized over them. Obama is lying to you when he tries to vilify them, they didn’t do anything to anyone to be treated this way and Obama knows it. That’s why he worked so hard for this not to get to bankruptcy court, now they’re going to be treated fairly.
Posted by: loflyer | May 2, 2009, 6:41 pm 6:41 pm
Thank You, Jake
You are one of the almost extinct trustworthy news sources. Please continue to tell it like it IS and not how you (or ABC) would like it to be.
I no longer watch ABC for news but I do still read you.
George C
Dallas
Posted by: George | May 2, 2009, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
“Three, it’s MY money these guys were making a play for,”
No it’s not. It was money they had lent to Chrysler which was secured by their interest in Chrysler corporation’s assets. You had nothing to do with it. But the United Auto Workers stand to get a ton of your money, and it will go down the rathole.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm
Should anyone be surprised that Obama wants to use the media to intimidate someone?
He used a townhall to mock American citizens that participated in tea parties.
So is Jake the only one in the Press Corps that wants answers about this?
Posted by: ron | May 2, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
Jake–Thank you for your courage and integrity.
If it weren’t for you and a few other fair/balanced people in the media, Americans would not know the truth.
Posted by: bailey | May 2, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
I believe Obama’s administration is suffering from an overload of ideologues in positions of power. He would be wise to weed them out.
His appointees’ supporting Obama’s agenda is expected but true ideologues do things out of blind devotion to their cause; not necessarily out of reason. The results can damage a president immensely.
Posted by: MizFW | May 2, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Thug Republic.
Posted by: mesquito | May 2, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Don’t believe your eyes, your ears, your gut, or your own sense of decency–believe the White House.
Wake up America.
Please wake up.
Posted by: henry | May 2, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Here is Professor Mark J. Roe of the Harvard Law School:
“Worse, there could be a legal fight over whether the vote of Citibank and the other ‘big four’ creditors — J.P. Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs, who together hold 70% of Chrysler’s debt — should be counted toward the two-thirds threshold that would bind the company’s other 42 creditors. The Bankruptcy Code requires that the votes of creditors be given in ‘good faith.’ It won’t be hard for the smaller creditors to argue that Citibank and other TARP recipient’s votes aren’t in full good faith. In agreeing to Treasury’s offer of 32 cents for each $1 of their debt, the objectors would say, Citibank and some others were influenced by the fact that Treasury was keeping them afloat with federal subsidies. If this type of litigation begins, it won’t be easily resolved.”
On the one hand, we have Professor Roe. On the other hand, we have those who say this bankruptcy is no different from any other.
I agree with Professor Roe.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
o it’s not. It was money they had lent to Chrysler which was secured by their interest in Chrysler corporation’s assets. You had nothing to do with it. But the United Auto Workers stand to get a ton of your money, and it will go down the rathole.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009 6:43:41 PM
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See the word “lent” above? That word implies a world of b/s you don’t have a clue about ,but Mr Obama apparently does.
He knows that the hedge funds/hedge fund managers are scum-sucking leeches in the first place that only ever gained any legitimacy at all the easy way…they lied and still do ad infinitum , which is why I am so glad he let them know via Mr Rattner (in very certain terms evidently )the old way is over and the carpetbagging conniving way of doing business they have been used to will NOT be tolerated any more.
Posted by: Brain? | May 2, 2009, 7:01 pm 7:01 pm
Obama has a history of using intimidation.
The WH has a pattern of intimidation and denial.
Do the research people.
Posted by: nick | May 2, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
Thank You, Jake
You are one of the almost extinct trustworthy news sources. Please continue to tell it like it IS and not how you (or ABC) would like it to be.
I no longer watch ABC for news but I do still read you.
George C
Dallas
Posted by: George | May 2, 2009 6:43:38 PM
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Cherry Picking your news sources/journalists/reporters to suit your obviously egocentric whims won’t do much for your objectivity ,I can promise you that much sir.
Posted by: Brain? | May 2, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Thuggish behavior? That is funny coming from a supporter of the Chaney, Rove, and Rumsfeld bully club. The answer to the question however is believe the President Barack Obama who has shown more integrity, honesty and character in 100 days then the Bush administration has shown in eight long years.
Posted by: V. Brame | May 2, 2009, 7:07 pm 7:07 pm
I agree with Professor Roe
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That is good, but doesn’t make him right. The court may rule otherwise. Got to wonder how much in credit default swaps these hedge funds had. I also find it interesting that the attorney speaks, but not the supposeded enjured client who no longer is represented by the attorney.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Jake.. Thank you for your integrity.
Posted by: JT | May 2, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
I’d like to know why ABC continues to employ George Stephanopoulos. It was reported a while back that he has conference calls with Carville and Emanuel most mornings, and I half-dismissed it…figuring he would either soon be stepping down from ABC or distancing himself from the Obama administration.
Then what do I see on tv yesterday, but George with his wife on a red carpet — telling us that what Biden said, VERY CLEARLY, about the swine flu wasn’t what he MEANT to say at all, but quite the opposite!
Are you kidding me?
Stephanopoulos has lost all credibility. Can anyone even begin to imagine Walter Cronkite working as a shill for the Nixon White House?
The media is in deep decline and I really do count on ABC for their integrity. His behavior is shameful to everyone associated with him.
Posted by: paul | May 2, 2009, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
peggy:”NO! We don’t key cars or anything violent. ”
Why was my comment referencing the FACT that Jim Adkisson murdered two as a direct result of his far right views? I feel it is indeed relevant in response to the above to note a recent event that strongly suggests the far right has a long standing tendency towards extreme violence based on political ideology. FAR moreso than the lunatic left (who from McVeigh to Rudolph to Adkisson is behind by literally hundreds in the US body count).
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
For those that defend Obama and say he won’t go after his opposition,remember Joe the Plumber and how government officials in Ohio used the state databases to dig up dirt to try to discredit him, a private citizen? Add to that the media that “sees no evil” when it comes to Obama.
This latest report fits a pattern and is very credible to me.
Posted by: AmericanPatriot | May 2, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Jake, offer the attorney a polygraph on film right now!
Posted by: dfu | May 2, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
I heard the audio myself and was shocked that it took 3 days for this story to percolate.
Thank you Jake for getting this out.
Posted by: Christine | May 2, 2009, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm
“Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.” -Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: BigGator5 | May 2, 2009, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm
Right, sure, I get it, get ‘em, wink wink …
Remember Joe the Plumber who dared get Obama to spill his wealth redistribution scheme? And what the media did to Joe?
It’s too bad all America has left is a lapdog.
Posted by: bill-tb | May 2, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
“That is good, but doesn’t make him right. The court may rule otherwise.”
What do we need a court for? The president has spoken. Case closed.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 2, 2009, 7:35 pm 7:35 pm
“The Perella Weinberg Partners` Xerion Fund has today agreed to the Chrysler
settlement offer extended yesterday to the Secured Lender Group. We believe that
this is in the best interests of all Chrysler stakeholders, and our own
investors and partners. We are working with other non-TARP Lenders to encourage
broad participation in the settlement.”
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 7:51 pm 7:51 pm
So let me get this right, the White House threatened to reveal the truth and the investment firm was scared that it would ruin its reputation so they preemptively file a lawsuit to make someone else look like the bad guy? I get it, more corporate/financial manipulation. Nice.
Posted by: blah blah blah | May 2, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
From the Wall Street Journal’s article
Bank-debt holders, many of them hedge funds or distressed debt funds, voted against the latest deal for various reasons, ranging from financial interests to philosophical ones. Some said their funds had bigger positions in Ford Motor Co. or General Motors Corp. and could benefit by a Chrysler bankruptcy and the production capacity that may eliminate. Some funds may also have credit-default swaps on Chrysler bank debt that pay out in the event of a bankruptcy.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Yes more of the same pattern from this administration. Spin Spin Spin. Does anyone believe in God? Do you know that He loves justice? He is bringing all the lies of the administration out in the open for all to see.
Posted by: Jenny | May 2, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Hmmm…Since I posted the views of the estimable Prof. Roe, essentially echoing my own, on the issue of the good faith of some secured creditors’ agreement, there has been an astonishing silence from those who hold a different view. Perhaps the found the Professor’s ignorance stunning…
Meantime, here’s more of a primer from Prof. Roe concerning bankruptcy in general and these proceedings in particular:
“First off, in a bankruptcy any single creditor is entitled to get the liquidation value of its claim. So any creditor can assert that what it would get if Chrysler sold its factories quickly would be more than the 32 cents per dollar that Treasury had guaranteed Chrysler’s secured creditors before the government deal fell apart this week.
“Valuation proceedings are notoriously difficult in Chapter 11. Although the judge doesn’t actually need to liquidate Chrysler, the judge must determine what it would have gone for if there were a liquidation. Some creditors appeared ready to bring that case to the bankruptcy judge.
“On top of liquidation value, the whole class of secured creditors is entitled to the ‘fair value’ of their claims. Usually fair value — the money that can be obtained from operations — is greater than liquidation value, though Chrysler may be an exception.
“The government thinks the fair value issue will be resolved easily. That’s because in a bankruptcy proceeding the creditors whose claims amount to two-thirds of the total amount of debt can bind the rest to take the deal. Indeed, the judge doesn’t have to figure out whether value is fair, if the class of creditors votes in favor. And since two-thirds have already raised their hands in favor of 32 cents on the dollar, it seems to be a done deal.
“But this time it might not be so easy. Not all of those who’ve already raised their hands in favor prior to bankruptcy, especially the smaller investors, will still be raising their hands inside Chapter 11. They can change their mind, and some just didn’t want any negative publicity before the bankruptcy.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
I never, ever watch ABC Nightly news anymore. I use to love them but somehow, lately, they seem to be so biased. I want the truth, both good and bad, about what is goingo on. I am an adult and can handle the truth but ABC seems to think that we are all children and need them to screen everything. Had Bush done half the things that this administration has done, it would make news. Somehow ABC doesn’t deem it worthy. Wonder if we’ll hear how ‘insensitive’ Michelle Obama was helping out the hungry wearing $540 sneakers… remember when McCain wore dress shoes (not sneakers) that cost $520 and the media said he was disconnected??? This bullying is just one more instance of this administrations do-as-i-say-not-as-i-do.
Posted by: mayah | May 2, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
they are like making deals with the mob
Posted by: Tim Love | May 2, 2009, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm
In any “adversary proceeding” within a bankruptcy case, the parties are afforded the same rights of discovery provided to civil litigants under the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Thus, I would anticipate that Mr. Lauria and his colleagues will afford Mr. Ratter (and others) the opportunity to state under oath, subject to cross-examination, precisely who said what to whom. Witness to the conversation, if any, can similarly be subpoenaed and examined. So we’re likely to learn quite a bit more than we know now.
If I were litigating it, I would certainly inquire very deeply and aggressively into all converations between the United Auto Workers and any representative of the Executive Branch.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
When a company ‘writes down’ its assets its actually worth more than it is saying. Think of Bank of America or Citibank’s assets/worth as a single piece of paper. When the government asks how much are you worth Bank of America folds the paper in fourths and says we are only worth ‘this much’. Then when asked how much profit did you make they unfold the paper to half size and say hey we made this much profit. This way they dont have to report to the govt they are actually worth the whole size piece of paper get it? This is how they say they turned billions in profit. They didnt really. It only says so on paper. The same applies to GM or Chrysler etc. Its all lying and the government cannot really control corporate lying can they? Only throw money at them. No companies are hiring U.S. Citizens and at this point some arent even hiring Indian or Pakistani immigrants who live in the USA anymore. They are offshoring and outsourcing everyone.
Posted by: realizingthetruth | May 2, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
Hmmm…Since I posted the views of the estimable Prof. Roe, essentially echoing my own, on the issue of the good faith of some secured creditors’ agreement, there has been an astonishing silence from those who hold a different view
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I do not understand what you are saying, no one disagrees with you or the professor. It is going to the Bankruptcy court, what happens there is anyones guess, how much anyone gets if anything, is of no concern of mine.
The question is what are the motivations. If the creditors change their minds, so what? It has no bearing on this discussion.
That there strong tactics and arguments made, by both sides, no doubt. Did the white house threaten to ruin the reputation of a certain firm? I seriously doubt it.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Bush crimes: Ummm. Torture. Hmmm. No-bid, sweet-heart contract deals. Let’s see: Warrantless wire-tapping. Oh, this is hard: Politicizing the justice system. Golly, I don’t know: defanging the Freedom of Information Act. Maybe: restricting our rights to organize and protest anywhere within a half mile of where he was? Whoo, this is hard seeing as we’re not allowed to list those crimes that you have vindicated in your own mind and thus claim to be nothing more than ‘bogeymen.’ Jeez, can anyone help me out here? But then again, Bush can’t really be guilty of any crimes because, ‘when the president does it, it is by definition not illegal.’ Still, if he had not been the president, what would his crimes have been?
Posted by: GW Wears a Halo | May 2, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
President Obama is stiffing millions of Chrysler and GM investors.
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You are aware that Bankruptcy means that all stockholders, Millions of them are left holding the bag.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
There is only one thing you need to know – everyone in government are creeps and don’t really give a dam about us. Look what they did to our enconomy – not one had the guts an steped up and apologized for not doing their job.
I use to be very middle right – but I was wrong for 45 years, both parties
are so bought off. If nothing changes we will no better than Mexico in ten years un-fixable.
We should demand term limits from these bums. We need better people than pelosi-reid-shurmer-add the republicans in as well.
The government failed us all – exporting jobs was approved by our great government. Everything was for sale and business was good.
Notice no is paying the price for what happened – O I forgot it must have Bush – if you belive that I have a bridge for you at a great price
signed fed-up
Posted by: A citizen | May 2, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Thinking, Obama is breaking the law when he gives precedence to Union members rights over investors. Per the The Financial Times
On Wall Street: Chrysler saga sets dangerous precedent
“For once, the law is unambiguous: senior secured creditors should be paid before junior unsecured creditors and employees”
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Wow that is quite a statement,. I am sure I do not know what it it means exactly. I do know that under a Bankruptcy that allows the company to continue, the employees have first dibs on any revenue. That is they are are to be paid.
I do not know what obligations Chrysler has to the retirees, or how that works in a Bankruptcy, or how the UAW retiree fund will make out. It could be that the UAW will get nothing.
Under the Bankruptcy the US has no say, Before the Bankruptcy the US was trying to strike a deal with the creditors, that would prevent a bankruptcy. Saying that Obama was breaking the law is absurd. They were not in Bankruptcy.
Now that they are in Bankruptcy every one of us who own an index fund have just lost our stake in Chrysler. While millions who bought Credit default swaps for Chrysler, weather they owned bonds or not, have made out.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
NewsBusters has a lengthy transcript up of the radio interview:
Establishment Media Is Ignoring White House Threats to Chrysler’s Non-TARP Lenders; WJR Interview Transcript
This is just a bit:
Beckmann: You made a comment to me before we went on the air about the significance of this case as it relates to the Constitution. I’d like you to explain that to my audience.
Lauria: Well, look, there are kind of two aspects to that. The first is the right to property and the right to contract are kind of sacronsanct in this country. I think everybody understands that when you make a deal it’s supposed to be honored, and if it’s not honored you’re supposed to be able to get protection in court. And what is happening here, through the force of the United States government, and that’s what’s disturbing about this — I mean, private parties have contract disputes all the time — but for the United States Government to step in, the Executive Office of the United States Government, who under the Constitution is charged with enforcing the laws to step in and try to in effect break the laws, I think we should all be concerned about that. That is a constitutional issue.
Posted by: Always Fresh | May 2, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
Both are stiffing the rightful owners of Chrysler and GM assets, the investors, out of their money.
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As a stock holder I was a rightful owner. No that Chrysler is in bankruptcy my stock is worthless. Thank you hedge funds.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm
but for the United States Government to step in, the Executive Office of the United States Government, who under the Constitution is charged with enforcing the laws to step in and try to in effect break the laws, I think we should all be concerned about that. That is a constitutional issue.
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What law was broken? None. The creditors can agree to give a stake to non secured investors. Obama was working with the the secured bond holders, the deal was not made, had it been made, or not, no law was or, would have been broken.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
“As a stock holder I was a rightful owner.”
And the value of your shares is rightfully at zero, as happens in every bankruptcy (equity holders are last at the table). Hedge funds had nothing to do with your problem. Perhaps you should phone the investment advisor who recommended purchasing shares of Chrysler–or did you do that all on your own?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Oh have I mentioned that Chrysler has a defined retirement benefit for it’s employees. That is money that has to be invested to sustain the fund under federal law. Those funds are not subject to a bankruptcy proceeding, and in fact is insured by the US government. I do not know the details of the agreement that would have given the UAW a 55% stake in Chrysler, but perhaps it would have been that the UAW would continue to pay into the fund, instead of Chrysler, for a 55% stake. So now we may be in hawk for the Credit Default swaps, and the Chrysler Retirement fund, plus the loss of our own stock in the Company.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Tapper,
You are rapidly becoming the best journalist of your generation. Tough on both sides, an enquiring mind and you actually seem to know the meaning of the word journalist.
Keep up the good work.
Posted by: John | May 2, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
“As a stock holder I was a rightful owner. No that Chrysler is in bankruptcy my stock is worthless. Thank you hedge funds.”—–
Oppenheimer Funds, Perella Weinberg Partners and Stairway Capital aren’t obligated to you, the Federal Government, Chrysler or the country. They are obligated to get what’s best for their clients. That what they’re supposed to do. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
Posted by: loflyer | May 2, 2009, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm
Perhaps you should phone the investment advisor who recommended purchasing shares of Chrysler–or did you do that all on your own?
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No. It was from the S&P 500 index fund and other index funds that I purchase through the 401k. Which I remind you that millions of us purchase. Why you probably own some. Most investment advisers will say that an index fund is the safest most secure way to diversify your portfolio.
Thanks for your concern though. Allthough I was just pointing out that I was an owner.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
Thinking: On another thread, someone offered the following statement: “I assume that no, you can’t cite any way this bankruptcy will be different from any other. What a shock, your argument is baseless if not outright false.”
The difference between this bankruptcy and all others of which I am aware is that the government has substantial control over several large secured creditors (through TARP), and at its urging those creditors have agreed, pre-bankruptcy, to terms favorable to an unsecured creditor (the UAW) who is on public record as having contributed substantially to the chief executive’s political campaign. Thus the issue of “good faith” in the agreement is presented. If anyone is aware of this issue having been presented under these circumstances in any prior bankruptcy, I would be pleased to hear of it. It may have occurred, but I’m unaware of it.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
UAW now owns 55% of Chrysler.
UAW represents the employees at Ford and GM.
President Obama & Houston:
We have a problem here!
Posted by: John | May 2, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Welcome to the Thugocracy. Thank you Mr. Tapper for shining a light on this particularly slimy episode.
Posted by: DocinPA | May 2, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Wonder if any of the small investors are your grandparents? When Obama gets through with hedgefunds maybe your grandparents will be out on the street. Obama just may destroy your parents or grandparent’s small investment while blaming everything on people for just doing their jobs. Either Obama is stupid or he is literally trying to destroy America. Some of you people don’t have a clue. You rant and rave about things because you think Obama is cute while at the same time he takes your hard earned money and blames people that are working hard to protect their investors. Some investors are small and some are very large. Their job is to go out and find money to keep investments prosperous. You wait until the trillions of dollars Obama is spending comes due. Talk about greed. Trillions are being spent that America does not have is pure GREED and political rape on all citizens. Who the heck is going to pay for it all? There are just not enough people in the United States to pay for all that money. I understand that Obama is spending more money than what has been spent since George Washington was president. After Obama’s first 100 days, it appears there is not going to be a dime left for anyone by the time his first term is up. I guess all of us will be working for the Chinese or the Arabs. Obama won’t have to worry about that, because he’ll be on some island drinking margaritas having a good time. I guarantee you if you disagree with the Chinese or the Arabs they will just chop your head off or shoot you in the back of the head. Now that would be torture.
Posted by: justanamerican | May 2, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Thinking, Ok, I guess your point is President Obama was trying to use the power of his office to strong arm investors into giving up their lawful right as senior secured creditors to be paid before junior unsecured creditors and employees. If this is legal than I guess when someone gets assaulted by their boss he can say well she agreed to give up her right not to be assaulted because I told her she would be fired if she didn’t allow me to assault her. Hmmm
Posted by: Amy | May 2, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
“Bush crimes: Ummm. Torture.”
Obama crimes: Ummm. Murder (assassinations by Predator drones in Pakistan). Or does he have a defense to such a charge? If so, what is it? By what authority does he launch those strikes?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm
Oppenheimer Funds, Perella Weinberg Partners and Stairway Capital aren’t obligated to you, the Federal Government, Chrysler or the country. They are obligated to get what’s best for their clients. That what they’re supposed to do. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
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yea I uinderstand it, So? Do I have to like it? Why is it so hard for you to understand that Obama was trying to prevent Chrysler from going into bankruptcy. Now the government is on the hoock for credit default swaps througn AIG or the large banks, for the Chrysler Retirement Fund, plus millions of stock holders have lost. Is that so hard to understand?
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
UAW now owns 55% of Chrysler
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Get it into your head. The UAW doen’t own 55% of Chrysler. The deal fell through.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:39 pm 9:39 pm
Thinking, Ok, I guess your point is President Obama was trying to use the power of his office to strong arm investors into giving up their lawful right as senior secured creditors to be paid before junior unsecured creditors and employees.
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No I am arguing that Obama was trying to prevent Chrysler from going into bankruptcy. some of the creditors agreed, some didn’t.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
Allthough I was just pointing out that I was an owner.
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I’m not prepared to push aside the rule of law because it would be more profitable for me to do so.
Posted by: mad | May 2, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Obama came to power through innuendo and maintains it the very same way. He always says, “….there are those who would say….” – pure innuendo. He did it to Hillary, to McCain, and anyone who stands in his way. I’m hoping that Mr. Tapper or someone else will list the pension plans, college funds, average investments of individuals holding these Chrysler bonds to refute the notion that these are “speculators”.
Posted by: Citizen70 | May 2, 2009, 9:49 pm 9:49 pm
When the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Obama and his wife have never worked in the private sector. They dislike what they don’t understand. By the way, how’s Joe Binden (who never worked in the private sector either) doing watching all those bailout funds ? The funds are disapearing into a black hole.
Posted by: realitycheck99 | May 2, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
To Peggy:
Good luck with buying any Obamamobile made by the “NEW” Chrysler Corp(se).
Tapper has reported this story well. Surprising ABC still has him on its payroll.
Obama is a thug, folks. This unprecedented and unnecessary involvement in the private business of America is a disgrace. How many billions of dollars of cash did the US taxpayer give to Chrysler (and GM)? Where has it gone, Mr. Tapper?
Posted by: dantes | May 2, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Welcome to the Thugocracy. Thank you Mr. Tapper for shining a light on this particularly slimy episode.
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Jake and the rest of the WH press corps has been slimed by this as well, if it’s true.
Posted by: MayBee | May 2, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
“Why is it so hard for you to understand that Obama was trying to prevent Chrysler from going into bankruptcy.”
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Why can’t you understand he wasn’t trying to avoid bankruptcy for the good of the country, Chrysler, the workers but trying to honor the sweet deal he was giving to the U.A.W? Good grief when even the New York Times can’t believe what sweet deal it was you know somethings up.
Posted by: loflyer | May 2, 2009, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Can the President be impeached for extortion?
Posted by: caleb | May 2, 2009, 9:54 pm 9:54 pm
Jake Tapper: A true, American journalist. Bravo, sir, bravo.
Posted by: Mutnodjmet | May 2, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
I’m not prepared to push aside the rule of law because it would be more profitable for me to do so.
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No one pushed aside the rule of law, no one proposed puishing aside the rule of law. No law was broken, the company was not in Bankruptcy, the creditors and the company were free to make any agreement that they so desire. Period.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Good Work Jake.
Posted by: John | May 2, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
As usual, MayBee has an excellent response to a silly defense of WH tactics: “What makes the hedge funds conniving liars? Where would Chrysler be without their investment?What about the investments of the people and groups the hedge funds represent?”
That’s a real problem here. Yes, a president has a bully pulpit and can often effectively use that platform to jawbone people into agreeing with his positions. It seems to me, however, that the current WH is dangerously close to going being jawboning to inappropriate strong arming of those who get in their way. The attorney might well exaggerate, but his accusation does not sound implausible to me.
Posted by: moderate | May 2, 2009, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm
Chrylser owed the employee retirement fund 10 billion dollars. Either Chrysler or the federal government is in hawk for it. Get that into your head.
Posted by: Thinking | May 2, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
So what they said they weren’t going to do, the Obama administration went ahead and did. They threatened to embarrass them publicly for doing what they are supposed to do and thats what they did. The only ones who win with the Chrysler mess is the UAW, big shocker.
But that’s Obama’s MO. Dare to question him on substance and he attacks personally no matter how little the attack is true.
Posted by: Zaggs | May 2, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
While Thinking continues his railing against the rule of law I wonder if anyone thinks that the alleged threat to unleash the press corp is believable.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 2, 2009, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
Citizen70, you were very insightful when you wrote, “Obama came to power through innuendo and maintains it the very same way. He always says, “….there are those who would say….” – pure innuendo. He did it to Hillary, to McCain, and anyone who stands in his way.” He creates strawman opponents and responds to them, rather than addressing the legitimate criticisms of actual critics.
He also has a related verbal tic of saying, “as I have said before” when presenting an idea he has not previously floated, acting as if people are simple-minded and have not been listening for asking him about something he does not want to discuss.
Posted by: moderate | May 2, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
Thinking,
“When Chrysler emerges from bankruptcy, the United Auto Workers will own 55 percent of the automaker and the U.S. government will own 8 percent. The Canadian and Ontario governments, which are also contributing financing, would share a 2 percent stake.” Chicago Times, May 1,2009
You were saying?
Posted by: John | May 2, 2009, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm
“Chrylser owed the employee retirement fund 10 billion dollars. Either Chrysler or the federal government is in hawk for it. Get that into your head.”
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And why should the hedge funds be liable for that? That’s what Obama was pushing for. Now it’s going into bankruptcy where those benefits and pensions are going to get slashed, as they should.
Posted by: loflyer | May 2, 2009, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Kerry,
If the guys name who did this was Joey Gallo, they would call him Crazy for shot and RICO would be invoked for extortion and racketeering.
If the guys name is President Obama we bow and chant hope and change.
Posted by: John | May 2, 2009, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
Kerry:”The problem with your premise, “no law was broken”… This goes against the rule of law that President Obama has sworn to uphold.”
No, actually, it does not. There is room within the rule of law to use the bully pulpit of the Presidency as long as NO LAWS ARE BROKEN. That’s kinda the definition of ‘rule of law.’
“I just know that if President Bush had tried the same tactics in order to benefit his cronies the media would be screaming for his impeachment and rightly so.”
Ah, the fantasizing that the media is all to blame. So, has Cheney released the attendees to his energy task force meetings yet? You know, the ones that major energy producers attended to set the nation’s energy policy just before those energy producers (some would call cronies) had their highest profits ever? Did I miss that impeachment push or are you utterly wrong?
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 10:14 pm 10:14 pm
loflyer:”And why should the hedge funds be liable for that?”
That’s right – hedge funds are only liable when they’re raking in profits, when it’s massive losses they shouldn’t have to take the slightest hit. Risk is for the chumps who don’t have Republicans looking out for them.
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Thanks Jake.
You are the only “real” reporter left.
Posted by: jack | May 2, 2009, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
What a tyrant Mr. Obama has turned out to be. He also isn’t very smart the way he has decided to resuscitate all of the old Marxist lies. I wonder how many non-Marxist books the man has ever read.
Rattner needs to be investigated for other things too.
Posted by: Nigel Tufnel | May 2, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
Chrylser owed the employee retirement fund 10 billion dollars. Either Chrysler or the federal government is in hawk for it.
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The government is in hock for a lot of things. No need to worry, the administration doesn’t believe 10 billion is that much money because it is a tiny percentage of the $3.6 trillion budget.
Posted by: mad | May 2, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
jhw, secured creditors take a lower rate of return on their investments in exchange for the safety of the investment.
That is true of any secured investor, not just hedge funds.
Posted by: mad | May 2, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
President Obama was not only using his “bully pulpit” to strong arm investors into giving up their lawful rights he was also allegedly using threats that the compliant media would be used to smear the reputation of the investors if he did not get his way. Sounds a lot like blackmail to me which is most definitely illegal by any definition of the law.
Posted by: dan | May 2, 2009, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
Mr. Obama wants to spread the wealth around. For that he wants to raise taxes on the wealthy through the progressive income tax. But the cruelest, most regressive of taxes is inflation. Since he has gone into a spending frenzy, severe inflation will be the result. The wealthy have the means to preserve their wealth through investments that gain monetary value in times of inflation, diamonds, real estate, collectibles, etc. The poor working schmo who tries to put aside a couple of bucks in the cookie jar or a passbook savings account will be robbed by the insidious thief of inflation. If Mr. Obama truly want to help the poor, he will take the actions necessary to insure a stable currency.
Posted by: Terry | May 2, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Dittos to anyone thanking Jake Tapper for having the guts and intelligence to do the job our society has always expected from the press i.e. be skeptical, dig out the truth and report it fairly and without bias.
Posted by: suziQ | May 2, 2009, 10:33 pm 10:33 pm
Thank you, Mr. Obama, your warning has come through loud and clear. Our money is no longer safe from government fiat in the United States, and we will adjust accordingly.
Unfortunately for the American people, it seems that’s part of your plan.
Posted by: An Investor | May 2, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
It wasn’t so much that they wouldn’t take what Obama wanted to give them it was the fact that they had a contract with Chrysler which put them as first in line for recovery of funds if Chrysler filed bankrupt. Seems like Obama the lawyer, who never really practiced law, didn’t want to recognize a valid contract which had a clause relating to Chrysler filing bankruptcy.
Just anothe example of Obama trying to use his roughshod Chicago style politics on the rest of the country. This administration is nothing but a bunch of crooks, they are robbing our children, grand-children, and more.
Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | May 2, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
frege @ May 2, 2009 10:31:53 PM is right, but sadly too few Americans are knowledgeable enough about investing and the economy to realize it.
Posted by: DRJ | May 2, 2009, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
And thanks to Jake Tapper for asking questions his fellow journalists are too enchanted to ask.
Posted by: DRJ | May 2, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
mad: “secured creditors take a lower rate of return on their investments in exchange for the safety of the investment.
That is true of any secured investor, not just hedge funds.”
Not sure how that is relevant to the case at hand. It appears there are not enough assets to cover all the secured creditors – not surprising considering the current commercial real estate market (typically the biggest asset is the real estate and facilities). They have thrown their lot in with going to the bankruptcy court. Lets see if they do better (I doubt it, although I assume they dotted the i’s and crossed the t’s to ensure their position is perfected).
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
Could this have anything to do with Parella’s last-minute capitulation?
“Representatives for Perella Weinberg, which is advising the government on a wide range of banking issues…”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
President Obama’s whole ideology is to take the wealth from the legal owners via government fiat and hand it over to his chosen few. In order to achieve this end he will break the rule of law, thus turn the Nation into just another third world Nation run buy a bunch of lawless strong armed thugs. So much for hope and change.
Posted by: Amy | May 2, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
90% of the negative comments are from the 20%er wingnuts who’ll never approve of anything the president does or says. The investors invested in a company that went bankrupt. They were apparently a minority among the interests in opposing the bankruptcy deal that was put in place. Is it true that they wanted a taxpayer bailout instead? And how would the wingnuts have responded to that?
So far, Obama’s doing a pretty good job containing the mess that Bush left him. We’ll see if he turns things around though. If he doesn’t, then hopefully the Republicans can find somebody not insane and beholden to Rush to run in 12. How about Olympia Snowe? She’s about 10 billion times more competent and intelligent and qualified than Palin, but gets nothing but scorn from the crazies in the GOP base.
Posted by: jrshipley | May 2, 2009, 10:46 pm 10:46 pm
An Investor:”Our money is no longer safe from government fiat in the United States, and we will adjust accordingly.”
And what pure capitalism haven are you fleeing to exactly? Poland? France? Somalia?
As for your money no longer being safe, you can hardly claim that Obama made a thuggish money grab THAT FAILED, yet your money is no longer safe… The hedge funds said no and now they’re off to court under the same law that was in place well before Obama. That looks like pretty strong protection to me and I’ll keep my money in the US thanks (I recently pulled it after a great half dozen years in a Europe/Asia fund – I bet that the Republicans and their war would destroy the US economy and dollar and really won big).
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 10:47 pm 10:47 pm
A little background:
“Obama’s chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, had earned somewhere between $16-$20 million in something between two and three years as an investment banker at Wasserstein Perella & Co. when the Clinton Administration went into exile in 2001, even though Emanuel had zero education, training, or experience as an investment banker or any sort of businessman. And yes — that’s the same Perella; he’d moved on to Morgan Stanley by the time Emanuel was at Wasserstein Perella & Co., but it’s such a small world, isn’t it?)”
This is how Mr. Obama spoke of Mr. Emanuel’s benefactors this week:
“Peter A. Weinberg and Joseph R. Perella are part of a band of Wall Street renegades — ‘a small group of speculators,’ President Obama called them Thursday — who helped bankrupt Chrysler.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Representatives for Perella Weinberg,
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FH, Is this the same Perella thst Rahm Emanuel went to work for after he left the Clinton WH?
As I recall he made millions in a very short time despite having no background in investment or finance.
Posted by: mad | May 2, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Fascist Hyena:”This is how Mr. Obama spoke of Mr. Emanuel’s benefactors this week:”
I’m really not sure of your point – are you saying Obama is bad because he’s not showing proper Good ‘Ol Boy deference to a guy who once held a high position at his chief of staff’s ex-employer (but had left the firm before that stint), Joseph R. Perella?
Seriously, what was the point of that? That the Obama administration has not been corrupted by money is the only I see.
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
since when does the white house have control over what the white House Press Corp writes. That story makes no sense. I am sure there was lots of arm twisting. So What??? That’s what politics is all about. GOP used to have orgasms when Ronald Reagan was twisting the arms of Congressmen and Senators.
Posted by: Barbara | May 2, 2009, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm
This is too easy to believe. Remember how the media tore private citizen Joe the plumber apart for simply asking a question. Look how they maligned the Tea Parties. They still have not stopped savaging Gov. Palin.
Anyone who dares to oppose Obama is at risk of the MSM attack dogs going after them.
Posted by: Clifton B | May 2, 2009, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
“I recently pulled it after a great half dozen years in a Europe/Asia fund – I bet that the Republicans and their war would destroy the US economy and dollar and really won big.”
Yeah. That’s credible.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 2, 2009, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
This one may actually sink Obama. If he did indeed threaten him then this could turn into a felony and if the direct orders came from Obama he would be charged. There are legs on this one like I’ve never seen before.
Posted by: Brad | May 2, 2009, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm
I found Mr. Obama’s statement “We don’t stand with them.” in reference to the investment firms very threatening, especially in light of what happened in the AIG bonus fracas. I took it in the same sense of “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” as in Henry II of England.
Posted by: Terry | May 2, 2009, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
I saw Obama’s news conference and he never mentioned any hedge fund by name; so it is obvious there are numerous lies in the article. It was Bush’s treasury secretary that supposedly threatened the BIG BANKS over TARP. Gee he was just trying to bring the world economy back from the brink of disaster where
Bush the brainless took it.
GOP LIARS. Go AWAY. we see what your goof ball ideas bring us. Hve the decency to just shut up after the destruction you have caused.
Posted by: Barbara | May 2, 2009, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm
President Obam allegedly threatened to use the WHPC to destroy the reputations of private citizens as a punishment for not giving up their legal rights to their rightful share of Chrysler’s assets. If this is true, Obama should be impeached.
Posted by: keep trying | May 2, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
Brad:” If he did indeed threaten him then this could turn into a felony and if the direct orders came from Obama he would be charged”
You’re delusional. ‘Threatening’ to publicize true and accurate information is not a crime, even if he did do it. Heck, Bush accused the NY Times of treason – a crime punishable by death. Now that’s a threat. “I’ll name you and truthfully recount what you did to hold you responsible for your actions” is NOT a threat as it is legally defined, no matter how much you hate Obama.
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Hi Barbara,
He didn’t have to mention them by name, he only had to indicate that he had strong feelings about them “I don’t stand with them.” to unleash the media to find out who “they” are and hold them up to scorn by the followers of Mr. Obama.
Posted by: Terry | May 2, 2009, 11:11 pm 11:11 pm
Foghorn Leghorn:”Yeah. That’s credible.”
It’s public record how they did. I was in by 2001 and out by late 2006. The crashing dollar was a real driver.
Posted by: jhw539 | May 2, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
I have an investment in a Total Bond Market index fund as a part of my 401K. Does that mean that I too should be first in line to receive funds? (as tiny as it may be). Do I have any recourse?
Thank you Jake for doing what no one else seems willing to do ( and that includes working on Saturday).
Posted by: humdinger | May 2, 2009, 11:12 pm 11:12 pm
“President Obama allegedly threatened to use the WHPC to destroy the reputations of private citizens as a punishment for not giving up their legal rights to their rightful share of Chrysler’s assets. If this is true, Obama should be impeached.”
I agree, but anyone who dares say anything negative about President Obama is called a bunch of names and torn apart by the media and his other cult followers. Given this I am surprised that Tapper came out with the story. Obama is one scary dude.
Posted by: thereyougo | May 2, 2009, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
“It’s public record how they did. I was in by 2001 and out by late 2006.”
Right. You bet against the Republicans and their war and you did it two years before the war started.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 2, 2009, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
“‘Threatening’ to publicize true and accurate information is not a crime…”
If you don’t have sex with me, I will tell the world who is really the father of your children. Crime or no crime?
(Where did the “true and accurate” come from, anyway?)
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Het, Terry
The article says this:
President Obama also said of Lauria’s clients, “I don’t stand with them. I stand with Chrysler’s employees and their families and communities. I stand with Chrysler’s management, its dealers, and its suppliers. I stand with the millions of Americans who own and want to buy Chrysler cars. I don’t stand with those who held out when everybody else is making sacrifices.”
President Obama never mentioned anyone’s clients or any specific hedge funds. The hedge funds are a bunch of blood suckers that are one of the main causes of the disasterous condition we find our financial sector.
According to Obama, whom I would believe above a hedge fund anyday, they are the only group who felt they should not have to sacrifice. I believe the numbers 30c on the dollar are probably eroneous.
Posted by: Barbara | May 2, 2009, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
“Seriously, what was the point of that?”
I should think the point was quite obvious. Obama uses a term of opprobrium to describe an organization from which his chief of staff was all too happy to make millions. If the point does not bother you, fine–but it certainly seems to, which adds further delight.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
the whole story is ridiculous because Obama has no control over what the press corp does. Who pays attention to the lame Press Corp anyway???? If there were such a threat, there would certainly be more influential people to get out the word about the hedge funds than the whole WH press Corp. the whole idea is just silly. Jake Tapper is in the Press Corp, right??? Would he write what the WH tells him too.
Posted by: Barbara | May 2, 2009, 11:29 pm 11:29 pm
Hi Barbara,
Peace friend… don’t get too emotionally involved in politics. In reality it is you that have the most control over you life and your situation. The adversaries you oppose are more in your mind than in reality. If we met, I would give you a warm handshake and a smile despite being one of those you oppose.
Posted by: Terry | May 2, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
I believe the attorney over Prez. Urkel. The bond holders had a fiduciary responsibility to fight for their clients. Urkel is buying the votes of extortionists who make ugly, unreliable cars.
Posted by: Rob | May 2, 2009, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
“”I don’t stand with them. I stand with Chrysler’s employees and their families and communities. I stand with Chrysler’s management, its dealers, and its suppliers.”
It is quite inappropriate for him to “stand with” any unsecured creditors as against the secured creditors. The fact that he has coercive authority over some of the latter makes his stance particularly offensive, and would be the subject of great media outrage were a Republican president to do it.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 2, 2009, 11:35 pm 11:35 pm
I will go out on a limb and predict that Chrysler is finished. Their most popular models are gas guzzlers. In order to satisfy Mr Obama, they will have to begin producing models of the future – e.g. cinque-cente. Even in the age of 5-dollar gas which will inevitably follow cap and trade no one will want to drive one of those west of the Mississippi.
And yet the Arctic Ice Extent (Google) is approaching the 1979-2000 average, and I go down to the sea everyday and have not noted any rise in sea level over the past 10 years.
How many years of Global cooling will we have to undergo before the CO2 alarmists will be silienced?
Posted by: Terry | May 2, 2009, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
This story is just like a Rorschach test. There’s absolutely no hard evidence one way or the other, it’s just reporting an allegation. Everyone is automatically seeing exactly – and only – what they want to see. From the right: Aha! Obama’s a lying, thieving crook and he should burn in hell! I told you! From the left: Aha! The bankers are lying, thieving crooks and they should burn in hell! I told you! Nobody has any proof either way yet. It’s the same, all across the Internet. Everyone sees only what they want to see, and so fast to write hate-filled comments excoriating the other side. The climate in this country is really, really hateful, and we’re all suffering because of it. Isn’t there a way to cool it down?
Posted by: So Sad | May 2, 2009, 11:50 pm 11:50 pm
“I stand with the millions of Americans who own and want to buy Chrysler cars”. If millions of Americans wanted to own Chrysler car, Chrysler would not be in bankruptcy! What a moron!
Posted by: TheOldMan | May 2, 2009, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
Thanks for the kind words, Terry. Hopefully they were sincere. I have traded my own stocks everyday for over 30 years. I sold in 2007 because I perceived that crooks were runng our government and deregulating other crooks who ran banks, insurance companies and hedge funds.
Now we have an honest leader, in my opinion. I have been buying stocks and doing well. I’m with the decent people who can compromize and make sacrifices, and just like Obama, I am not with the greedy ones who cause mass destruction because they think everyone should sacrifice but them.
By the way, if the WH wanted to threaten them, I am sure they would be smart enough just to suggest that the SEC will now be regulating hedge funds which is what is going to happen. I’ve got other news for you folks… There is no way any one could further injure the reputations of hedge funds anymore than they could injure the reputation of an AIG; so as I say, the story is silly and makes no sense which means it was made up by the only silly people I know of which are the GOP.
Posted by: Barbara | May 2, 2009, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
“The financial sector will make up a smaller part of the economy in the future as new regulations clamp down on “massive risk-taking,” President Obama said in an interview published Saturday.
You be the judge how whether Obama administration threaten an investment firm?
Posted by: Parallax View | May 2, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
“This one may actually sink Obama. If he did indeed threaten him then this could turn into a felony and if the direct orders came from Obama he would be charged. There are legs on this one like I’ve never seen before.”
You betcha, wing nut.
Posted by: Pug | May 2, 2009, 11:57 pm 11:57 pm
“They have gotten death treats.”
Oh no! Not death treats.
Posted by: Pug | May 2, 2009, 11:59 pm 11:59 pm
This attorney represents hedgefunds and wall street the same group of people who brought down the economy. They think they can do business as usual, while asking the President and the American taxpayer to bail them out so they can raise interest rates and scam us again.
Give me a break!!! We are all having to sacrifice and I am tired of Wall Street and Bankers think they have it tough while they continue their unethical business practices and giving bonus while losing money.
Posted by: LINKABEIN | May 3, 2009, 12:02 am 12:02 am
Hi Barbara,
I’m glad to hear that you have done well in the market and that you got out in 2007. Millions of others didn’t, including myself, and have seen a dramatic decrease in net worth.
You said that you got out in 2007 because you perceived that “crooks were running our government and deregulating other crooks who ran banks, insurance companies and hedge funds.” But it was in Jan 2007 that Mr. Obama’s party took control of both houses of congress from the admittedly corrupt republican party. Things got worse immediately. Both parties have integrity issues.
It’s good that you find reassurance in Mr. Obama. But remember “Even the the best of men is just a man, at best.” Better to judge him by results and it is too soon to see those. In the meantime, hold to yourself and yours and don’t put too much faith in politicians.
Good night for now…
Posted by: Terry | May 3, 2009, 12:05 am 12:05 am
Until this administration is out of power, I won’t buy any corporate bonds in unionized firms.
Posted by: investor | May 3, 2009, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Look for a lawsuit that WILL go right to the Supreme Court regarding violations of protection of the bondholders of Chrysler. And, the Supreme Court will rule in favor of the bondholders and the Union will be left out to dry.
Posted by: RobbieK | May 3, 2009, 12:12 am 12:12 am
Hey jhw539, you have no idea what you are talking about. This now makes twice Obama has threatened people. Keep wishing jhw539 that this crook is going to stay in office. Just around the corner is a large Court getting ready to lower the hammer on Obama. Finally!
Posted by: RobbieK | May 3, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am
“Please give us any reasons you might have for doubting his claim.”
Because it’s Bill Burton. And because he sounds suspiciously like Bart Simpson. “We didn’t do it, no one saw us do it, there’s no way you can prove anything!”
Posted by: Jim Treacher | May 3, 2009, 12:18 am 12:18 am
Gee isn’t it great thatour President thinks that it is agaisn tthe law to want your investments to pay and not to have to take pennies on the dollar like they were demanding?The thugs from Chicago strike again.Smart attorney to get out in front and cut off the talking points of Obummer.Since when is it greedy to not want to be taken to the cleaner for investing when the industy needed them if not for the investor’s they would’ve went Bankrupt about 3 years ago
Posted by: cccc | May 3, 2009, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Thank you Jake for asking the hard question of Gibbs. The rest of the white-house press are tools for Obama.
Posted by: Ken | May 3, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When people fear the government, there is tyranny.”
- Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: ceeLeelee | May 3, 2009, 12:27 am 12:27 am
Once again, I really admire Jake Tapper for his professionalism, something that is in scarce supply in America these days. Thanks, Jake. Please don’t stop.
Posted by: Sami | May 3, 2009, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Terry,
You seem like a kind person. I am sorry you lost money during these horrendous times.
It was not the Democrats who believed in deregulating everything. It was the GOP. There was that disasterous Bankruptcy bill GOP pushed through. That was a complete gutting of the consumer.The bill was written for the GOP by the credit card companies just like they let the cable companies and the telephone companies write the telecommunications bill back in the 90″s. look at your cable bill, Terry. What do you get for it. Then there was the killing of the Glass Stegal act by phil Gramm and company in 1999.. Letting banks take on enormous risks and weird financial products.
Things started looking worse in 2007 because the Democrats started having hearings and bringing out the truth. It was then obvious that the emperor had no clothes. The Democrats had asked Greenspan almost a decade ago about derivatives and about lending practices in the mortgage industry. 18 States wanted to start cracking down on the mortgage industry and Bush prevented them from doing that in spite of the fact that Appraiser whistle blowers were quitting their jobs saying that they were being asked to break the law and over value properties. These are facts, not the old wives tales about Fannie and Freddie the GOP tries to peddle. Fannie and Freddie did not sell fraudulent products. By mandate, they were forced to back the ones sold by crooked private companies and crooked rating agencies. S&P, Ambac, Moody’s, etc.
I could go on. have a nice evening. i wish I could be as kind and civil as you are, but i am angry at the right wing. Nothing is ever their fault, ever!
Good Luck, terry
Posted by: Barbara | May 3, 2009, 12:34 am 12:34 am
Jake please ask Gibbs about this monday.
Posted by: Tina | May 3, 2009, 12:40 am 12:40 am
Personally, I think this article is very poorly written. It is full of inuendo and bereft of facts.
Posted by: Barbara | May 3, 2009, 12:40 am 12:40 am
“”I don’t stand with them. I stand with Chrysler’s employees and their families and communities. I stand with Chrysler’s management, its dealers, and its suppliers.”
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It sounds so noble until you realize he is criticizing people for not being willing to let their retirement accounts take a hit so Chrysler employees don’t have to take the hit instead.
To whom do we supposedly all owe this collective sacrifice? Only Chrysler? Other people are losing jobs. Other companies are going out of business.
I wish Chrysler the best, but I’m not sure where the moral imperative is that other private citizens give up their savings so Chrysler, in particular, has a better chance.
Posted by: MayBee | May 3, 2009, 12:45 am 12:45 am
If anyone had made an accusation similar to this about Bush, there would have been calls for a special prosecutor to conduct an investigation. Eric Holder, are you a patsy, or the Attorney General of the people.?
Posted by: freedomrings | May 3, 2009, 12:50 am 12:50 am
The assumption that the only choices were ripping off the bondholders or bankruptcy is completely fallacious.
Four decades of far-left regulation of Detroit’s auto industry, combined with a longer history of union extortion had already left Detroit near death’s door.
Then last year the credit market implodes thanks to decades of misguided government interference and regulation, and all of the sudden consumers are unable to finance a car purchase, and Chrysler can’t borrow any money in the private markets to survive through the slump.
Now it’s ok for the government to buy worthless assets from the banks, give the banks tens of billions of unsupervised open-ended loans, to pour billions into fantasy energy schemes with no possibility of a return.
But can we loan a few billion for a few years to an industry with a proven repayment history?
Can the government make good on a mess that IT created?
No, the best the Chicago mob can offer is a day late, and a dollar short, allowing just scant number of days to restructure an entire industry.
In spite of insurmountable odds, Chrysler was on the verge of making arrangements everybody could agree to, but guess who couldn’t budge on their oh so precious April 30 deadline?
That’s right, it was “The Won” who forced the May 1 bankruptcy of Chrysler, not the bondholders.
Posted by: Junk Science Skeptic | May 3, 2009, 12:54 am 12:54 am
Keep up the good work, Tapps. If this is true, this is an outrage, and every legal avenue should be pursued to squelch these attempts at government coercion.
Posted by: Hillary Fan | May 3, 2009, 12:56 am 12:56 am
This was a non-denial denial. It was a fact, not a threat.
They will use their thuggish Chicago politics to make sure that Obama and the unions own all the automakers, and will then go about putting the rest out of business.
They not only threatened these guys privately, they took shot s at chrysler production specifically in the news conference, claiming Chrysler did not produce the right cars, they were too slow in dealing with this and so on.
No different from GM but GM allowed their company to be handed over to Obama and the unions. 40% Union ownership, and 50% the govt.
Like with GM Obama wants to confiscate the Chrysler shareholders stock, including retirement funds for regular folks, and hand it over to the unions. He is openly furious they did not give over their 401K’s to the Unions.
-WHO WILL PAY HIM AND THE OTHER DEMS BACK IN ELECTION AFTER ELECTION
They then control:
-All suppliers to GM will be forced to unionize or they won’t do business leading to higher costs at every level
-Obama can decide which cars he approves of for manufacture
-Obama can subsidize GM without the congress or taxpayer permission, because he/we own the stock and put other auto companies, that don’t go along, out of business.
-The unions instead of the shareholders now own the company and will do what is best for the unions and the taxpayers will subsidize the losses
-the shareholders including companies investing for 401K retirement plans have their stock confiscated to give ownership to the unions.
THIS IS A CRIME ALL AROUND
Posted by: MNM | May 3, 2009, 1:14 am 1:14 am
The white house has lied before… it continues to prey on the weak and vulnerable people with misleading statements.They have perfected the talent of such.
Why do you think they hate FOX news so much… if fox news was lying the whitehouse would have every means to file a complaint or sue them but they don’t because they know better.
It angers this administration beyond words and it shows. They can’t control FOX news and it really bites them hard.
I hope more businesses start to come forth and put the truth out there. No business needs to be bullied into the control of this administration.
The people will stand behind them. Because we can see what is real and what is not… does not matter what the whitehouse says… they lied many times. from what I see
Just my thoughts on the topic
Posted by: pockettes | May 3, 2009, 1:17 am 1:17 am
I believe it…. thats why other banks gave back the stimulus check. They wanted no part of being controled by the govenrment. Most banks understand and run their business as it should be… it is the few and unfortunately the most powerful ones that caused the corruption…. funny this administration use to be a part of the very banking industry that has now gone array
Posted by: pockettes | May 3, 2009, 1:19 am 1:19 am
Barbara, what flavor kool aide, pray tell are you drinking this evening?
When it comes to dodging responsibility, you can put Schumer, Frank, Pelosi, Dodd and Obama at the very top of the list. As a matter of fact, President Obama is the first President in my 45 years who has spent more time blaming everyone else for the problems he faces than accepting the responsibility that comes with the big chair. Perhaps you could email his campaign 2012 website and remind him that the deficit he supposedly inherited, was voted for by him when he was a Senator?
Posted by: Dale Evans | May 3, 2009, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Obama has seized shareholders share of these companies, including retirement investments 401K investments and handed the stock over to the unions,
This is a national scale of corruption only seen in Chicago prior to this.
Payoffs to unions buried in taxpayer support and subsidies to those automakers that go along with Obama.
The rest will be driven out of business.
The shareholders, including those investing retirement funds, will be driven out of their investement businesses if they don’t play ball, ala jakes report above.
The depth of corruption this sets up for the future will cost the taxpayers at every level. There is a reason Chicago has some of the highest taxes in the US.
Obama is a corrupt chicago thug with an idiot grin that the media covers for over and over again.
Posted by: Nobama | May 3, 2009, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Mr. Tapper- You’re great! This is incredibly good investigative reporting!! I’m surprised that the MSM is avoiding this really uber relevant story! Keep up the excellent work!!
Posted by: kim | May 3, 2009, 2:01 am 2:01 am
I am 53 years old and for the first time in my life, I am scared for my beloved country. Obama is a Chavez wannabe, and my fellow Americans are too stupid to see it.
Again, Obama is waving the single digit at our rule of law.
Thanks, Jake, for all that you do. You are fast becoming an American hero.
Posted by: samiam | May 3, 2009, 2:16 am 2:16 am
So who’s idea was it to invest heavily in the auto industry’s attempt to sell the American public fleet of millions of big gas-guzzling pieces of junk for as long as possible? The shareholders should take a hit. The whole SUV craze was one of the dumbest phenomena I’ve ever seen. Hopefully Americans have learned that they can’t all buy huge ridiculous vehicles as part of a fashion trend like they were sneakers or something.
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 2:22 am 2:22 am
You rock like Pajamas Media, jpt! I don’t think even FOX has caught up with this late breaker yet!
Posted by: amber | May 3, 2009, 2:26 am 2:26 am
KSM, secret ballots for unions huh? How about they take pride and say “Yes, I voted for the union. By the way since the company now has to pay alot more to pay my wage, they gotta let you go.
Nevermind George over there, even if he’s sleepingont he job, he won’t loose his job. Unions got his back!” Screw that! Let every union BURN and let those who sowed the wind of speculation reap the whirlwind of poverty. As far as this story goes, good riddance to those who want to “hold out for more”. You know what, it’s the unrestrained greed that seeps out of my countrymens pores that’s the cause of this. It’ll hurt but i hope they learn a little lesson on restraint.
Posted by: onepissedoffvet | May 3, 2009, 2:52 am 2:52 am
The real truth is that Obama’s administration demanded to see all of their birth certificates, and proof of American citizenship.
All that other stuff that’s going on is meaningless. Corporate lawyers, crying foul? say it ain’t so…
Posted by: Non-Revisionist 33 | May 3, 2009, 4:23 am 4:23 am
95% of Americans enjoying President Barack Obama’s tax cut are in for an unpleasant surprise next spring.
The government is going to want some of that money back.
Ask about that Jake Tapper.
Posted by: TempusFugit | May 3, 2009, 7:10 am 7:10 am
Jake Tapper,
I only want you to ask, don’t play stump the Press Secretary.
President Obama could have just issued $400 checks and avoided this problem.
Ummm, Military Retirement payments don’t get a tax cut? because it’s not earned income? What is it Government Charity? So Retirees have to pay it back come tax time.
Posted by: TempusFugit | May 3, 2009, 7:22 am 7:22 am
NO MORE MONEY TO THIS THEY LOST ENOUGHT
Posted by: RAMBOW99 | May 3, 2009, 7:39 am 7:39 am
Posted by: Barbara | May 2, 2009 11:24:13 PM
Obama ignored bankruptcy law to take stock in Chrysler and to hand control to the unions.
This was all about handing the reins over to a supporter and having the those of us who pay the bills take over the debt.
Posted by: drjohn | May 3, 2009, 7:49 am 7:49 am
Good job, Jake. Keep digging – for as long as ABC lets you. Unfortunately, you will never again be allowed to ask a question at a White House press conference, and all your WH sources will mysteriously now go mum. You are now to be shunned as an “enemy” of the administration. Folks, the Nixon administration’s anti-press sentiments have nothing on Rahm and the Obama team. Jake will now be on the White House Enemies List for daring to air a story that is unflattering to the WH.
Posted by: The End Up | May 3, 2009, 7:51 am 7:51 am
It is not, and never has been, up to a President to “take sides”, exert pressure or denegrate either side in what is essentially a commercial matter – a failed company. For a guy who once taught constitutional law, Obama seems to have no clue regarding the boundaries of presidential power under Aticle II.
Posted by: The End Up | May 3, 2009, 7:57 am 7:57 am
>>>The charge is completely untrue,” said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, “and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”<<< We know the value of White House denials of these kind. Do you recall that famous denial "I…did not…have sex…with that woman…" ?
Posted by: The End Up | May 3, 2009, 7:58 am 7:58 am
It does not suprise me that democrats destroy reputations with the medias help.
look what they did to JOE THE PLUBER compared to all the tax cheating crooks working for Obama running the IRS
Posted by: think hard | May 3, 2009, 8:00 am 8:00 am
Americans didn’t get a tax cut. The government reduced the amount of federal withholding by $13 paychek every 2 weeks.
At the end of the year this money will have to be paid back. If you get a tax refund it will be minus this amount.
Posted by: CW | May 3, 2009, 8:00 am 8:00 am
UAW is the union at Ford. Ford a competitor of UAW owned GM and Chrysler.
Ummm, wonder how Ford fells about that.
Posted by: TempusFugit | May 3, 2009, 8:04 am 8:04 am
Is President Obama, Richard Nixon incarnate?
Posted by: TempusFugit | May 3, 2009, 8:20 am 8:20 am
Leave it to the Obama lovers.
Government by Thuggery – ‘The Chicago Way’
Posted by: spammer | May 3, 2009, 8:22 am 8:22 am
Anytime you talk to the Obama or the Obama team. You should be wearing a WIRE TAP.
EXPOSED
Posted by: hanky panky | May 3, 2009, 8:24 am 8:24 am
Anytime you talk to the Obama or the Obama team. You should be wearing a WIRE TAP.
EXPOSED
Posted by: hanky panky
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Maybe this man was wearing a WIRE TAP and a hidden camera.
Posted by: screuwed | May 3, 2009, 8:25 am 8:25 am
People really need to pay attention to what Obama does instead of what he says.
He says he doesn’t want to own auto companies and he took control of auto industries.
He says he doesn’t want to control banks and he bought into BofA and won’t let others pay back TARP funds.
It’s all part of the plan and denying it is merely a headfake.
Posted by: drjohn | May 3, 2009, 8:33 am 8:33 am
“Is President Obama, Richard Nixon incarnate? ”
Maybe, but he’s a Democrat so he is allowed to get away with it, jsut as his wife is allowed to wear 500 dollar sneakers while McCain isn’t allowed to wear 500 dollar dress shoes.
Opie Howard won’t be making any movies about this guy, maybe a hagiography.
See, only Republicans are guilty of everything, Democrats are angels.
It’s what we’ve been told to believe.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller | May 3, 2009, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Frank Beckmann is a rightwing stooge. Anyone who believes anything that clown says, or what any of his guests trying to advance his agenda says, is a moron.
Beckmann is also the play by play announcer for the University of Michigan football team.
And he’s just as biased for the “home team” on his UofM broadcasts as he is in his column and his radio talk program. He’s worthless.
This was clearly a power play by one of Chryslers bond holders to push back against getting a large haircut. Pathetic.
Posted by: Hesiod | May 3, 2009, 8:53 am 8:53 am
This is a lawyer who threatened to file suit to block the Chrysler reorganization plan if his clients didn’t get what they wanted.
This WATB is now saying that his reputation is going to be threatened by the White House. Fortunately for us, his reputation had already been ruined when he tried to pull the same crap in the Adelphia bankruptcy, where the judge dismissing his motion called his antics a “nuclear war button” that threatened the sale.
This guy is angling for some $1250 per hour work which won’t do his clients or anyone else any good.
Why is it OK for workers to be threatened into concessions everytime a company wants, but we’re supposed to sympathize with WATB banksters?
Posted by: Flash Override | May 3, 2009, 9:02 am 9:02 am
Frank Beckmann is a rightwing stooge. Anyone who believes anything that clown says, or what any of his guests trying to advance his agenda says, is a moron…
This was clearly a power play by one of Chryslers bond holders to push back against getting a large haircut. Pathetic.
Posted by: Hesiod | May 3, 2009 8:53:21 AM
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See, only Republicans are guilty of everything, Democrats are angels.
It’s what we’ve been told to believe.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller | May 3, 2009 8:43:39 AM
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Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller, As an Independent I can see your point.
Posted by: TempusFugit | May 3, 2009, 9:03 am 9:03 am
Flash Override — “Why is it OK for workers to be threatened into concessions everytime a company wants, but we’re supposed to sympathize with WATB banksters?”
Maybe a better question is: Why aren’t you bothered by the possibility that your government is threatening to destroy the reputations of private citizens who dare assert their contractual rights in court?
Posted by: CaptainVictory | May 3, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am
“Why aren’t you bothered by the possibility that your government is threatening to destroy the reputations of private citizens who dare assert their contractual rights in court?”
Even if we should believe this charge, how can the government destroy their reputations? Are they afraid that they will be caught looking out for #1 again after they just got done putting money into companies that were selling people junk. If they are behaving reputably they ought to have no fear.
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 9:35 am 9:35 am
Well Tempus, I am not really a Republican, I vote that way because of some slim chance they are better on freedom than the Stalinist Democrats. I am a libertarian, who was once a Democrat and crawled out of the illogic and stupidity that makes up the leftist philosophy.
But when I see Michelle O wearing 500 dollar sneakers and not one word from the shriekers, these were the same people who raised holy hell with our national TV about Palin buying clothes and McCain’s wingtips…
Well, I can see what is going on…we see how the Mark Foley and Larry Craig things were treated…but then we Barney Frank, Gerry Studds and Bill Clinton’s episodes were handled. I can go on and on about the differences in how Repub scandals are handled and the Dem scandals.
The Democrats can get away with a lot, their PR firm called The National Media sees to it that none of their scandals are given the same assault that Republican “crimes” are given.
It’s amazing to me actually.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller | May 3, 2009, 9:36 am 9:36 am
“I am a libertarian, who was once a Democrat and crawled out of the illogic and stupidity that makes up the leftist philosophy.”
Libertarians always seem to be smug in the conviction that their ideas are very logical and make such good sense, but when you try and actually make policy based on them they turn out to be hopelessly impractical.
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am
How long before these two auto companies become places where well connected Liberals go to become wealthy off the taxpayers like what happened at Fannie Mae\Freddie Mac?
Raines, Rahm Emmanuel, Gorelick and a whole host of other “important” Democrats were given positions at Freddie\Fannie where they got huge bonuses at the same time that they were driving the sub-prime disaster on the nation. And all under the cover of Barney Frank and Charles Schumer in Congress. How long before Madeine Albright is named Chairman of Chrysler? How about Michelle Obama as CEO?
Liberals are in hog heaven that America is being driven to Cuban-style economics where political connections determine wealth.
Posted by: SClanding | May 3, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am
“Are they afraid that they will be caught looking out for #1 again after they just got done putting money”
So another Commu-crat shows that he is thrilled that Obama is destroying the private capital markets. So, einstein, how do you propose to get private citizens to invest their capital in business ventures if Comrade Obama and Comrade Pelosi can come in at any time as simply override the LAWS OF OUR NATION in telling them that your legal claims are irrelevant? Do you understand bond investments at all? What about principal stock vs common stock?
Well, your idiot Obama is quickly destroying the difference because he obviously does NOT understand them as he has often stated! And you idiot followers, especially the young ones will be paying for the consequences for years. I hope you enjoy 15% unemployment, if not higher. Obama’s Legacy, a Welfare Nation.
Posted by: LogicalSC | May 3, 2009, 10:15 am 10:15 am
“So another Commu-crat shows that he is thrilled that Obama is destroying the private capital markets.”
The private capital markets already destroyed themselves. Obama is trying to patch them back together as best as he can.
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am
“In short, Obama wants companies to eat nearly $5 billion so that he can give away Chrysler to protect union jobs.
“The unions that backed him. This is their payoff.
“If true, this is the biggest corruption scam in American history.
“But like Obama’s $750 million campaign jackpot, this alleged pay-to-play scam will not be investigated by the authorities, Congress or the press.”
Thank God for Jake Tapper. The rest of the lapdogs are an embarrassment to themselves.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 10:36 am 10:36 am
Evidently they’re not getting the message over there:
“Iran is responding to President Obama’s diplomatic overtures by needling him, lambasting him for a lack of progress in his first 100 days, and demanding to see his ‘change.’
“On Friday, prayer leader Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami — an Assembly of Experts cleric with strong ties to both President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei — lashed out at the U.S. administration’s call for talks with Iran.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Fun Facts about the first 100 days:
•Obama’s first two major bills alone, the “stimulus” and ‘omnibus,’ cost nearly twice as much as was spent on Iraq over six years – $1.2 trillion vs. $650 billion.
•Obama abandoned his campaign promise of ‘a net spending cut,’ his first annual deficit – not counting bailouts – being three times the worst deficit under President George W. Bush.
•Obama’s objective in his first G20 summit – commitments to spend our way to prosperity with massive stimulus boondoggles across the G20 – was rejected out of hand.
•Obama’s objective in his first NATO summit – commitments to combat troops for Afghanistan from ‘our European allies,’ which Obama and his party imagined were ready and willing to fight if only someone ‘enlightened’ like him were running things – was predictably refused, with some more European non-combat contingents offered as a token.
•Obama’s Defence Department announced cuts of $1.4 billion to missile defence, the day after North Korea test-fired its long-range, multi-stage ballistic missile.
•Obama’s economics were criticized by Warren Buffet, whose endorsement had been candidate Obama’s highest economic credential.
•Obama reversed the free trade Bush policy that had allowed about 100 Mexican tractor-trailers into the United States, which the Mexican government immediately used as an excuse to levy tariffs on 90 American goods amounting to $2.4 billion in U.S. exports.
•Obama’s ‘tax cuts for 95 per cent’ turned out to mean $13 a week from June to December, to be clawed back to $8 a week in January – as compared with President Bush’s 2008 tax rebates of $600 to $1,200 plus $300 per child, which were notably scoffed at during the election campaign by Michelle Obama.
•Obama’s campaign promise of a $3,000-per-employee tax credit for businesses that hired new workers – repeated ad nauseam for weeks before the election – was discreetly retired even before inauguration day.
•Obama abandoned his campaign promise that ‘lobbyists won’t work in my White House,”‘waiving his no-lobbyist executive order or conveniently re-
defining his appointees’ past lobbying work to allow 30 lobbyists into his administration.
•Obama abandoned his campaign promise to reform earmarks, signing the omnibus bill which contained 8,816 of them.
•Obama took more money from AIG than any other politician in 2008 – over $100,000 – and signed into law the provision guaranteeing the AIG bonuses which later had him in front of the cameras ‘shaking with outrage’ and siccing the pitchfork crowd on law-abiding citizens who had fulfilled their end of a contract and had their payment upheld by Obama’s own legislation.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am
Good. I’m glad he’s being exposed.
Posted by: Eyes Open | May 3, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
“Which brings us to the real question, which is, when did it become the government’s job to intervene in the bankruptcy process to move junior creditors who belong to favored political constituencies to the front of the line? Leave aside the moral point that these people lent money under a given set of rules, and now the government wants to intervene in our extremely well-functioning (and generous) bankruptcy regime solely in order to save a favored Democratic interest group.
“No, leave that aside for the nonce, and let’s pretend that the most important thing in the world, far more interesting than stupid concepts like the rule of law, is saving unions. What do you think this is going to do to the supply of credit for industries with powerful unions?”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am
“It is now absolutely his economy,” said Paul Light, a New York University professor who specializes in presidential transitions. “I don’t think that the public will continue to believe that this was all George W. Bush’s doing. And every day that goes by, it becomes more Obama’s than Bush’s.”
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 10:58 am 10:58 am
To the Banks & Investors that received BAILOUT $$$, for all that still refuse to work with homeowners, forcing them to foreclose.
IT HAS GENERALLY BEEN ASSUMED BY CUSTOM, POLICY AND PRECEDENT, FOREVER, THAT THE LENDER IS SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO JUDGE WHETHER OR NOT AN INDIVIDUAL CAN AFFORD A LOAN.
I wish that skin color did not have to enter into the picture – the lenders are wolves (simple racketeers) taking advantage of sheep – black and white.
The lenders should be PROSECUTED UNDER RICO (Racheteer Influenced and Corrput Organizatons Act) and have any monies collected in this fraud seized and paid out to the victims. I think the “lenders” would be much more amiable to negotiating interest rates and payments if they knew they were vulnerable under RICO.
Posted by: Disappointed Homeowner | May 3, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am
Mr. Tapper, I commend your dogged good work. It’s got to be pretty lonely there at ABC, being the only one with an ounce of integrity.
It is sickening to watch this administration destroy our children’s future, with the Press acting as agent. To then be openly ridiculed by the president when we protest that destruction, and see his enablers eat it up, is infuriating. Which, no doubt, thrills them even more. They never understand that we are all in this together–they’ll just be eaten last.
Posted by: Chris | May 3, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Skip — ” If they are behaving reputably they ought to have no fear.”
So I guess you’re okay if the administration were to try a smear job on you for some good-sounding reason? How about if they spied on you? Opened your mail? I mean, if you’re behaving reputably …
Posted by: CaptainVictory | May 3, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
Mr. Tapper; Unlike me, you are too young to remember Mr. Nixion’s enemies list. I suggest you are now just below FOX News on Mr. Obama’s enemies list.
Take care and be safe.
Posted by: Al Reasin | May 3, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
How come FOX news isn’t reporting this?
Posted by: amber | May 3, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Jake: Is there anyone in the White House press corps besides yourself who takes exception to the notion that it can be used to destroy a firm’s reputation?
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
Bulletin for Disappointed Homeowner:
None of the holdout creditors of Chrysler took a penny of taxpayer money.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Hey Barbara, you can stop blaming Bush now for Obama’s bad actions. Your claim about oil prices is totally untrue anyway. Anyway, Perella Weinberg Partners are totally in the RIGHT for opposing ANY offer to take a portion on the dollar. Obama is totally wrong to even state ANYTHING regarding a Bankruptcy. It is none of his business and he is in direct violation of the Constitution. Perella Weinberg Partners ARE looking out for families, Obama! Shut your pie hole because right now you need to be impeached for your comments and I HOPE IT HAPPENS!!! Perella Weinberg Partners needs to take this to the U.S. Supreme Court immediately and get Obama deep in the mud. This is an outrage!
Posted by: RobbieK | May 3, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
Thank You Jake Tapper!! Keep up the good work! Let it be known that the President of the United States has ZERO power over ANY private corporation, whether or not they received bailout funds. The bond and stockholders own the corporations and it is illegal for a President of the U.S. to state ANYTHING regarding their business. The only power the President of the United States has over any dealings in a corporation is the ability to dissolve a Union per the Labor Act of 1938. Obama and his Adminstration I’m afraid have crossed the line now and there is not explaining this away. Good job Jake Tapper! We are behind you!
Posted by: RobbieK | May 3, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
skip:Even if we should believe this charge, how can the government destroy their reputations? Are they afraid that they will be caught looking out for #1 again after they just got done putting money into companies that were selling people junk.
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Are you saying Chrysler was selling junk? If so, why should President Obama be putting our money – taxpayer money- into it?
As for looking out for #1- who do you want the people managing your money to look out for? Do you want the manager of your retirement account to care more about you and the other investors, or about keeping some company from going bankrupt?
Who was responsible for bailing out Circuit City, Mervyns, or Linens-n-Things? Did you tell the people managing your money to save them at any cost to you?
Posted by: MayBee | May 3, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
“Fun Facts about the first 100 days:”
In fairness it should be pointed out that France has agreed to take one Guantanamo detainee.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 3, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
to FH:
Keep fighting the good fight but you really should credit Megan McCardle for those quotes.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 3, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
True enough, Foghorn. I put quotes around her comments, but then neglected to cite her by name.
Posted by: Fascist Hyena | May 3, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
“Libertarians always seem to be smug in the conviction that their ideas are very logical and make such good sense, but when you try and actually make policy based on them they turn out to be hopelessly impractical.”
Smugly put.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 3, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
No surprise that this story has gained no traction.
Posted by: jcarob | May 3, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
>>>The charge is completely untrue,” said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, “and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”<<< Right. So was Monica Lewinsky. The WH occupant at the time denied that story, too.
Posted by: The End Up | May 3, 2009, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm
Sorry, Bill. You have no credibility – and neither does your boss.
Posted by: ceeLeelee | May 3, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
“Sorry, Bill. You have no credibility – and neither does your boss.”
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Oops! The above should have read the other way around…
Sorry, Bill. Your boss has no credibility – therefore, neither do you.
Posted by: ceeLeelee | May 3, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Now lets not ask Obama anything over a 6th grade level question on this or he will not call on reporters to ask any question at all.. “enchanting huh”
Posted by: How am I doing now Comrades | May 3, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Poor babies – they can always return the bailout money to protest.
Posted by: Kendall | May 3, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Kendall, I hope you were being sarcastic when you wrote,”Poor babies – they can always return the bailout money to protest.” That’s one of the most maddening things about this whole mess– companies who took bailout money are having a hard time regaining their independence by returning the money. The government won’t let them just return the money, even the financial institutions who didn’t really need money in the first place but were asked/told to take it anyway to provide cover for the weaker companies that did need it.
And if you argue that financial institutions that took TARP money should just accept that the government gets to call the shots, you have to ask why the government should be able to force them to make decisions that are not in their financial best interest. So say a company got tarp money because of its financial situation, and now it is being told that it should write off a Chrysler debt for less than it might be able to get under ordinary bankruptcy standards. Wouldn’t writing off that debt, or settling for far less, further weaken its balance sheet? Isnt’ the idea to have these institutions become stronger financially, not weaker?
Posted by: moderate | May 3, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Mr. Tapper, I hope you read this.
As someone who spent almost 10 years of my life working for the WSJ/Dow Jones, I can tell you that the state of modern journalism is, in my opinion, sad. No longer are journalist acting as watch dogs representing the citizens against the government. You Mr. Tapper, are the exception to that rule. For that, I applaude you.
The major debt holders in this whole Chrysler fiasco were the very banks, Citibank and Bank of America, that profited handsomely from TARP. And they were the very financial institutions that agree to reduce Chrysler’s debt to them substancially. The question now remains; what was the deal that was cut? Did the administration agree to reduce those TARP bank’s liability to pay back the taxpayers if they reduced Chrysler’s debt? The banks are not saying and the Administration is not saying. But if that is the case, then it was the American taxpayer, and not the banks, that really reduced the Chrysler debt. Again, no one is saying exactly what deals were cut.
I understand that you are probably on the Oval Office favorites list now just about level with Major Garrett. But continue to apply real journalism standards, not the phoney ones, to your reporting. If you ever do decide to sell out, as so many have, well, there is always the advertising department or working as a stable hand. Both having a primary function of shoveling manure.
Posted by: retire05 | May 3, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Moderate,
Actually I was being facetious. But I do not buy that companies were forced to take bailout money. I don’t believe these bankers/investors did anything that they thought wasn’t in their best interest. They took a risk and…. there are no guarantees. Their disappointment mirrors that of other Americans who have had to deal with the fallout of irresponsible and reckless decisions by both government and the private sector.
Posted by: Kendall | May 3, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Kendall- the creditors Mr. Lauria represents did not take bailout money.
Posted by: MayBee | May 3, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Are you saying Chrysler was selling junk? If so, why should President Obama be putting our money – taxpayer money- into it?
I most certainly am. And so were Ford and GM -as many people were unpleasantly surprised to find out when they saw the pittance they were offered on trade-in of many of these vehicles. The rest of your comments would be valid under normal circumstances except in this case the Obama administration has made the apparently controversial decision that it’s in our long term national interest to try and save one of our largest auto manufacturers. As part of the rescue they want Chrysler to design and market good cars.
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Bush was a criminal. The whole world knows it.
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Then the president must begin prosecution immediately. He really has no choice.
Posted by: mad | May 3, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Jake keep telling the truth
everyone wants t hear both sides of any story You have courage keep up the good work
Posted by: nancy | May 3, 2009, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm
In March, Chrysler topped the 100,000 mark for the first time in months. 77% of those were pickups, SUVs and minivans.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 3, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Tiny Tim let another investment bank and a shadow bank.. hang out to dry last Sept. .. how much has this cost the U.S. taxpayer.. I believe that there is a near criminal conspiracy going in within the beltway!!
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 3, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Will anyone besides Laria say they were threatened with there reputation getting atacked? Really I wasn’t impressed with how he’s trying to link a comment that doesn’t come close to naming them with death threats. There’s been enough Chicken Littling these days – but hey this has got some juiciness to it like a finely made Pina Colada. But it’ll probably fizzle cause this guy Laria is not coming accross as that beleivable.
Posted by: amber | May 3, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
Its amazing to see a president stealing from the Americans who did nothing wrong but invest in Chrysler and hand it off to the UAW which was the cause of the downfall of the US car companies in the first place.
Anyone who believes in free enterprise will definitely not buy a Chrysler or GM car after Obama has socialized them. That means half the American people. SO stick a fork in both companies they are done.
I expect prosecutions of the Obama administration to come about when the republicans take the country back for this. Its a clear violation of unreasonable search and seizure laws .
Posted by: Steve B | May 3, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
As part of the rescue they want Chrysler to design and market good cars.
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And the decider of what constitutes “good cars” for Chrysler to design and market is going to be….??? Who? The government? Fiat?
(btw, how does an Italian company bailing out Chrysler make it more American than the Japanese automakers manufacturing in the US?)
Posted by: MayBee | May 3, 2009, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
As far as Tiny Tim and the others go, they’re like the same wine put in a different cask. When you do that, you get as the end result bitterness. Anyone drink to that?
Posted by: amber | May 3, 2009, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
(btw, how does an Italian company bailing out Chrysler make it more American than the Japanese automakers manufacturing in the US?)
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Maybee, I’m still trying to figure out how Fiat is aquiring Chrysler with no financial input. It looks like taxpayer money is being transferred to Italy.
Posted by: mad | May 3, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Well, since the president doesn’t stand with Lauria’s clients, I guess it’s a good thing Lauria and his fellow fund managers do. Don’t those clients represent a cross section of America, including many of the public employees Obama considers “his people?”
I don’t like this president setting himself up to be The One determining who among us will be winners and who will be losers. We have laws that govern bankruptcy and reorganization for a good reason, so that investors can make rational decisions based on risk/reward evaluations. The president has no business “rearranging” things to suit his personal code of “fairness”.
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“The charge is completely untrue,” said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, “and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”
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This White House sounds more and more like Clinton’s all the time. Instead of issuing a direct denial, Clinton’s people would say something like “there’s no evidence that such-and-such happened.” At least this administration is still issuing denials.
Posted by: KJo | May 3, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
“And the decider of what constitutes “good cars” for Chrysler to design and market is going to be….??? Who? The government? Fiat?”
Why not Fiat? If the government has in effect taken over Chrysler and doesn’t have confidence in their designers why not call in some outside help?
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
New Chrysler. Autos by Fiat by fiat.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 3, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
This kind of hardball politics and manipulation is nothing new.. I think many people believe that Obama is going to change things in D.C.
If you believe the allegations against Rattner, this is not ‘Change We Can Believe In’.. it is:
Yes We Can (do anything we please)!
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 3, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Seems as though the Tiny Tim wine blend has ‘gone to vinegar’.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 3, 2009, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Why not Fiat? If the government has in effect taken over Chrysler and doesn’t have confidence in their designers why not call in some outside help?
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Mainly because Fiat doesn’t even sell cars in the US anymore. At all. One suspects that is for a reason. The idea that they know precisely what to do is….untested at best.
There are cars being built here that people *do* want to buy. Why the need to risk our money looking elsewhere?
Posted by: MayBee | May 3, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
This Rattner is a former NY Times reporter and is tight with Bloomberg and the dazzling Pinch Sulzberger, publisher of the Times.
His outfit Quadrangle Group has a client list full of elite media like Comcast, Cablevision, Bloomberg LLC, NY Times.
He is on record (according to Vanity Fair) to be in favor of transforming failing newspapers into ‘public trusts”.
Rattner has been named as a payor to corrupt and indicted NY pension player HHenry “honest Hank” Morris to gain access to the massive NY State Pension fund. He has also been connected to a New Mexico State Pension payment involving NM Governor Bill Richardson.
Posted by: Moose | May 3, 2009, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm
It isn’t much of a leap to believe claims of a socialist administration threatening free market. All one has to do is sit back and see what the current administration has done.
This administration is shredding this country at every turn.
Thanks to all those empty heads who don’t understand freedom and who voted for a person they could not describe other than “change”. Each and every one of you are the root cause. And the main stream media who continue to bow at the feet of Obama and engage in black out news when it comes to negative press for the great and powerful Obama.
Posted by: Jack | May 3, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Who is Obama to talk about the “millions of Americans who want to buy Chrysler cars”? If millions of Americans wanted to buy Chrysler cars, the firm wouldn’t be in this position.
Posted by: Jason | May 3, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Nationalise america.I doubt Obama had anything but praise for Chavez and his allies.
it should come as no suprise that a majoriy of common people in our nations capitol welcome socialism and worse in america.Many giddly looking forward to americas collapse becuase it brings them closer to utopia.Ethics,Morals and truth mean nothing to this mindset.
Posted by: you | May 3, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm
I am sure it happened, that’s the way they gor elected, using the press to lie for them. The Obama regime is already a most corrupt regime. Wait long enough and they will make Hitler look good!
Posted by: cadpipe | May 3, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Cry me a river. Bruce Perella and co. are kazillionaires. You think they got there without brass ones and a lot of backroom arm twisting? Negotiation at this level is about using whatever leverage you’ve got. They’re fools and tools if they think the White House, any White House, isn’t going to play hardball. Deal with it.
Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | May 3, 2009, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm
Fascist pig IMPEACH obama
Posted by: rcb | May 3, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Kathleen:They’re fools and tools if they think the White House, any White House, isn’t going to play hardball. Deal with it.
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Do you think the Press wants to go along with the White House playing hardball? Because that is the heart of the charge here.
Posted by: MayBee | May 3, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
I guess Obama thinks he owns the press.
Posted by: Tina | May 3, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
I say destroy them. Americans are pissed at them any ways. They didn’t do their jobs as Americans.
Posted by: Sara | May 3, 2009, 5:05 pm 5:05 pm
Typical of the Big Brother Bully Obama Administration.
Wait until this administration starts using the torture techniques (that they allegedly decry) against “dissidents” — critics of the Obama Administration.
Posted by: Effra | May 3, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Wouldn’t surprise me at all. A bunch of Chicago thugs have taken over Washington.
Posted by: Patriot4Ever | May 3, 2009, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
“Cry me a river.”
Posted by: Kathleen Hussein in Maine | May 3, 2009 4:52:58 PM
That was a great post Kathleen, I wish you would visit us more often.
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm
Kudos to Jake for reporting this story.
This administration is proving to be very dangerous, as they use bully tactics to undermine contract law. What they are doing to Chrysler’s senior bondholders is outright theft.
This will be great opportunity to see if all the liberal whack-jobs truly believe in their mantra, “question authority.”
Posted by: Mike M. | May 3, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
It was politically stupid for Obama to handle the Chrysler announcement personally. He’ll have hundreds of chances to play the hero over the coming years. This situation is liable to blow up in his face. One obvious disadvantage of a heaIthy Chrysler is more competition for Ford and GM. I realize the press is in the tank for Obama now and that his major gaffes have been ignored, or even missed by a love blind media. However, the media can also be fickle. Yeah, Obama should have let an underling do the Chrysler stuff.
Posted by: Jim Benham | May 3, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
The joke’s on us.
Posted by: Joel | May 3, 2009, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Gee Peter, thanks for that well-informed commentary.
Let’s inject a dose of reality. The bondholders – without whom the employees of Chrysler would have been out of a job long ago – own $27 billion in SECURED loans. The UAW has $10 in UN-SECURED claims. So the bondholders have roughly 3x the investment in the company pre-bankruptcy.
Obama is proposing that the UAW get 38% of the company and the bondholders just 10%. Let’s call if what it is: theft.
Who will lend to any auto company in the future? Those who do will demand exhorbitant terms to compensate them for the added risk, meaning that the employees will get screwed, to use your terminology.
Those are the facts, but I’m sure from reading your informed post that you were well aware of all this already.
Posted by: Mike M. | May 3, 2009, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm
Peter, you don’t know what you are talking about. The whole idea of secured credit is that the lender takes a lower rate of interest in exchange for being higher in the bankruptcy pecking order. What the Dear Leader has tried to do is mau-mau these entities so that they will not exercise their legitimate rights so that he can give a windfall to the UAW. He is trying to force these people to basically subsidize his UAW political allies (this is actually pretty much what the Obamas of the world do when they extort funding for ACORN from corporations).
Also Peter, not that you care, but these holdouts have not accepted TARP funds – again those are on the same side of the table as Dear Leader Obama in these negotiations).
This really is stunning abuse of power by the president, even to people who knew his politics was heavily Marxist.
Posted by: frege | May 3, 2009, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Thank God this President has the balls to stand up for the common worker.
Boo Hoo! – the hedge funds didn’t get what they wanted, so they took their ball and left the game.
Obama just reported what they did. Adding that he didn’t appreciate it.
WELL, neither do I! I don’t expect businesses to become charities – but where’s the patriotism of “doing what’s best for the country” – or is everything only about the bottom line? They are supposed to be the best and the brightest – WHY could they not negotiate with the Obama Administration for a “win-win” proposition – knowing the dire straits the U.S. is in? Entitled Brats!
These guys can’t have it both ways. The public will ignore these crocodile tears. Watch & see.
Posted by: Tama Mattocks | May 3, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
The most stunning development in the first 100 days is that the White House media completely falls for Obama’s demagoguery. The White House denials in this case are so transparently false they make Nixon look like a Boy Scout, but the press corps (except Trapper) doesn’t care. Mencken’s description applies to Obama better than any prior President: “one who will preach doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots.” Obama is clever, give him that, but he’s just using freshman logical fallacies and the press corps is too ignorant (or complicit) to call him on it. Let’s see, half-truth, check; false dilemma, constantly; demonization, exactly what Trapper reports on here; straw man, also constantly. Obama’s smooth, but so was Hitler when he nudged Germany into socialism. Obama is not even hesitating to transfer control of the means of production to the “workers,” control of the banks to the “people,” and the press corps applauds him.
Posted by: Horace | May 3, 2009, 5:26 pm 5:26 pm
I for some reason tend to believe the attorney from White & Case. Of course the fund would deny it was threatened. It did drop out of the group.
While banks and hedge funds etc. have not been the best of citizens lately, the bond holders do have “contracts.” They have priorities under the bankruptcy laws which the administration is taking away and giving others superior rights. This whole bailout situation is out of control.
Posted by: BillMacD | May 3, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Surely this surprises no one, it is not hard for me to believe.
Posted by: StlDan | May 3, 2009, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Once again Obama is using Chavez’s nasty little playbook. Take control of the free market enterprise system any way he can, then edge out any one left trying to stake a legal claim, and assume ownership for the state in the guise of ownership by the people. I used to think Obama might be good for this country. These tactics will ensure that I will never vote another for another democrat as long as I live.Shove that hope and change lie. Post politics candidate my hiney.
Posted by: Im so sorry America | May 3, 2009, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm
Mike M., Obama’s plan is intended to make sure that Chrysler never takes private investment again. It’s a nationalization. Chrysler’s only source of capital in the future will be the banks controlled by the government. GM is right behind. As is any corporation that needs capital, for that matter, since the government now controls all the major banks.
Now that Obama has shown how the government can and will coerce bondholders to yield to the “workers” claims, investors and their advisors will be crazy not to withdraw their money from any entity that needs government “assistance.” This is the tip of the iceberg of wholesale government takeover of the means of production. It will be the fastest socialist revolution in history.
Posted by: Horace | May 3, 2009, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
Fantastic, honor .29 cents on the dollar, see how well that encourages vendors caught in the crossfire!
Whose gonna do business in this environment?
Obama has killed confidence and trust in ANY contract.
Time to restrict Anchor and Media pay???
Posted by: DogGoneit | May 3, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
All you socialists who crybaby about people who worked hard and made something of themselves, who run companies are the ones who GIVE YOU PEOPLE JOBS! When was the last time you got a paycheck from a welfare worker? Too bad they took real teaching and learning out of schools. Otherwise you people would have learned a long time ago that what Obama is preaching is socialism. Google socialism. You may find yourself enlightened.
Posted by: Andrea | May 3, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
WHY could they not negotiate with the Obama Administration for a “win-win” proposition
How do you negotiate in good faith with a man who threatens to publicly destroy your reputation of you don’t give him what he wants? The UAW got 55% ownership, a 4.6 billion dollar note in return for the $8.2 billion they are owed, and the banks with secured liens are supposed to accept 2 billion instead of the 6.9 billion they are owed?
Posted by: Dave C | May 3, 2009, 5:35 pm 5:35 pm
This idiot president has turned the rule of law on its head.
Contract law is the foundation of civilized nations.
We are rapidly morphing into Anarchy.
Posted by: uDufas | May 3, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
America100 days
One government made crisis after another
100 days
One government made crisis after another
We need to start a count down
If Bush is bad
obama is THE boogeyman!
WIlson
Posted by: 8yd | May 3, 2009, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm
The fact that the administration is making threats to personally ruin the reputation of people and/oir companies shouldn’t be a surprise after hearing the attacks on Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, etc. i find it exrememly reprehensible and something that, if true, calls for some kind of strong disciplinary action and should be made public by the mainstream media other than ABCnews.com. I doubt this will happen. The mailstream media can’t criticize the president they have helped make the chosen one. The way this administration in general and Obama in general operates make me sick. I saw problems in the Bush administration, but nothing as frightening as what I am seeing and hearing now. I can only pray our country can withstand 4 years of Obama and still be a free, capitalistic country where the government is not telling us what to say, think, eat, drink, drive, etc. I truly believe that is the end goal of Obama’s 4 years and the Democrats in general – not for the good of the country, but for the sake of retaining power.
Posted by: lukuj | May 3, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Of course this administration has to bend the truth in order to continue with their social engineering of America.
Posted by: Keith | May 3, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
It’s no surprise that Obama would bring the thuggish, divisive Chicago style politics to the White House. How can this be a surprise? Obama is an arrogant, self-righteous ideologue who will use any and all means to force his agenda through. What makes me more sick is that the White House Press Corp have and would attack, personally, anyone the White House wanted. They are the propaganda wing of the president and the democratic party.
Posted by: Malcom Z | May 3, 2009, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
So,in essence, according to this attorney, we have an admission from the White House that they control the White House Press Corps?
Could no one see this coming?? Seriously….all one had to do was observe Obama’s behavior and record in Illinois to know fully well of what he is capable.
Unfortunately, all the little college kids who put Obama in office are working off their hangovers and trying to get through final exams ….and have NO CLUE the tenuous position in which they have placed the rest of us, the PRODUCTIVE class of America…as well as the future of this country.
Posted by: cartimandua | May 3, 2009, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
How many cents on the dollar would the bondholders get if Chrysler is liquidated?
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Screw the investment bankers. If they were halfway competent, they would have stopped investing in Chrysler a long time ago. Any idiot could see the writing on the wall for the last 10-15 years that Chrysler and GM were going down faster than a fat girl on a donut.
They were waiting for their taxpayer bailout. It’s unfortunate they’re getting even .29 on the dollar.
Posted by: haha | May 3, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Isn’t it refreshing that one reporter is willing to report facts. Give credit to Jake for doing the job journalists are supposed to do. Most other “journalists” do not know what journalism means.
If you think the way the administration is trying to stiff the people who have invested in good faith, and how Obama is trying to stiff the legal system is OK, then you have my sympathy.
Posted by: Independent | May 3, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Obama is simply rewarding his Union thugs and playing Chicago politics. What a shameful disgrace of the office of President
Posted by: byron | May 3, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
If the threats can only be verified with heresay, then ignore them and concentrate on verifiable facts.
If this firm indeed offered to lose 50 cents on the dollar then Obama’s statement “They were hoping that everybody else would make sacrifices, and they would have to make none.” makes Obama a liar, plain and simple.
I’m surprised the White House Teleprompter Corp didn’t catch that verbage, tsk tsk.
Posted by: Chocolatier | May 3, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
Read “Liberal Fascism” by Jonah Goldberg, of the LA Times, New Yorker, WSJ and The Review.
Then the light bulb will finally, finally go on. America is NOT this liberal or extreme. Get over the ‘feel good’ crap and start using your thinking brain before it is too late.
Posted by: cartimandua | May 3, 2009, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
How many of you are experiencing buyer’s remorse with respect to your purchase on November 4th, 2008?
Posted by: Ben | May 3, 2009, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm
when you have a Socialist with no appreciation for business, and no understanding of business, in power, these antics should not be a surprise.
what, this wasnt the Hope and Change you were looking for?
Posted by: JIM | May 3, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
The real ameicans are going to bring the Obama administration and the economy to it’s knees by not spending the money they have….we will see who really runs the country………….. the rich….
Posted by: dean | May 3, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
while the story needs verification, in the past there have been ample cases where the white house has played the “heavy”. their need to play rough will cover and obstruct any attempt to uncover their role in the creation of this mess and allow them to re-write history.
Posted by: eamon | May 3, 2009, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm
Gee, Obwana’s apologists out in full force. I guess they are still on ACORN’S payroll since they got fresh billion(s)funding in the stimulus bill. The unions ruined these companies and that’s why manufacturing left this country. I never understood the term, until now: 13% of the population, 90% of the problem.
Posted by: Truth Hurts | May 3, 2009, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
This is typical Obama. You mess with the messiah and you are asking for trouble. He has already put a board together to shut down conservative talk radio. You libs wanted change you are getting it. You probably should have looked at his record and demanded to know what changes he planned on making. It will not stop here either. It will continue until he reaches dictator.
Posted by: 7papa7 | May 3, 2009, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
Tip of the hat to Jake for reporting this story. It should only get better.
Only the blind and dishonest refuse to see the glaring conflict of interest the Obama administration and the UAW share in Chrysler’s murky future.
Hedgies (“…pension plans, college endowments, retirement plans and credit unions…”) be damned.
“Loose the usual smear tactics”
-Inspector Rahm-ault
Posted by: sozomuse | May 3, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
Let the union have 55 % of the company. When the new company goes belly up again they can sell all the assets and give the union and all the retirees 55% of the sale probably at 30 cents on the dollar and that will be that. No life time pension or benifits, thats it no more for them. I sure won’t be buying a Dodge or anything from GM if the Chosen one is involved. They will fail with gov’t control. No brainer.
Posted by: Tony | May 3, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
so now the WH is going to destroy Lauria….just watch. What a bunch of Chicago thugs we have in the WH now.
Posted by: chris | May 3, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
The Chicago mob is alive and well. We just handed over Chrysler to the Detroit subsidiary overseen by the mob corporate out of Italy.
Posted by: Zillaan | May 3, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
I appreciate Mr. Tapper’s thoroughness. Interesting that much of the MSM will not report this allegation. The heavy-handedness of this administration is not unprecedented, but it is nonetheless a very serious concern, especially for those who fear the lurch toward nationalization of industries.
Posted by: frdwken | May 3, 2009, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
Thank God this President has the balls to stand up for the common worker.
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I’m afraid he thinks the common man is too stupid to know the difference between facts and rhetoric.
Posted by: mad | May 3, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Considering Barack Obama threatened radio and TV stations with lawsuits during the campaign if they played ads critical of him; that he and his thugs threatened to sue citizens who gave money to certain conservative organizations that were running ads critical of him; considering he got sympathetic law enforcement officals to form a “thruth” goon squad to threaten anyone who would criticize him during the campaign
considering all the Chicago thug tactics that Barack Obama regularly employs, this denial is not credible.
Posted by: RealityCheck | May 3, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
What Obama should care about is the validity of contracts. The “speculators” he decries are senior debt holders. By law, they are entitled to be paid in full before any junior debt holders, any equity investors, and any employees are paid one dime. Like it or not, that is how debt works. If he continues to ignore this, he will raise the cost of debt for everyone, as debt investors will always worry about political risk
Posted by: Sue Donim | May 3, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
Skip,
“How many cents on the dollar would the bondholders get if Chrysler is liquidated?”
TBD in bankruptcy court.
Posted by: sozomuse | May 3, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
I voted for Obama. I really believed in the whole thing I thought he stood for.
I deeply apologize to my fellow citizens for this.
Posted by: Frances Scott Key | May 3, 2009, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm
I believe the charges brought forth in the article.
In the past thirty years I’ve owned a Buick Skyhawk, a Mazda RX-7, a Ford Mustang and a Chevy Express 2500 Series cargo van. Given 1) the support by the UAW of Obama and 2)the takeover of the American auto segment by socialists and Marxists my next vehicle is going to be a Toyota or a Honda.
I am going to try my best to convince everyone I can to buy Japanese or Korean and bankrupt the UAW.
I suggest that everyone who is against the Democratic party do the same. Lets hit ‘em where it hurts and bankrupt the UAW.
Posted by: TI | May 3, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
So…when will Obama be prosecuted for this?
Oh yeah…when will Obama be persecuted for the war crimes of killing innocent civilians with predator drones?
Posted by: politicaldookie | May 3, 2009, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
BO used the media to try and destroy Palin, Joe the Plumber, Rush and basically anyone that he perceives as a threat.
BO probably would still be back in Chicago if not for the media that covered his a**.
Posted by: millie | May 3, 2009, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Oh, poor little hedge funds. Did they have their feelings hurt? This is not complicated, any money these guys get will have to come from the Feds because Chrysler is broke. They made a business calculation that they could hold out and get the last penny off the table. I’ve negotiated with these guys they have no shame. What do they care what Obama says. They are in bankruptcy court and we will see if they do better than they would have done with a deal. But these hedge fund guys made a fortune on fees over the years. They won’t be going into the bread line soon.
Posted by: alanmarv | May 3, 2009, 6:06 pm 6:06 pm
Saul Alinski’s Rules for Radicals playbook at work to make our contract safe business environment turn into a 3rd world villianize the people who would fund the progress. This administration, Soros and the South American Declaration of Cumana state that capitalism is bad and Obama is doing his best to kill it in America. This is not just a payback to the UAW by one of the best politicians who money can buy, but a campaign against the system which made America the leader in the free and non free world. Don’t blame me!! I listened to him like alot of my mooreon friends and relations told me to and I did not only hear, but understood. I voted for the lesser of two evils, McCain.
Posted by: Ross Howell | May 3, 2009, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Time for Distraction Dog.
Obama will come up with something, some kind of crisis to hide behind as this story comes out tomorrow.
Posted by: ross | May 3, 2009, 6:09 pm 6:09 pm
Memo to America, contracts are no longer contracts. As a debt investor the only protection you have is your seniority in the structure and your covenants….now I guess they don’t mean anything if the President says so…
And for those would say this only impacts “Wall Street”, who do you think owns this debt? If you have money in a bank, a pension, mutual fund or insurance policy, you do.
Posted by: WillieS | May 3, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
I do believe this person. The President has always had a “bully pulpit” from which to dictate, but this goes beyond that completely.
I have owned 2 Chrysler’s and 4 GM’s in my driving life. And I ridiculed all of the Obama/Biden bumper stickers in my area were on foreign auto maker cars. Guess what White House, my next car if a foreign auto maker car too. I am done with Detroit. UAW may have won with the one in the White House, but find someone to purchase your crap in the future UAW. You lost another customer today.
Posted by: Steve | May 3, 2009, 6:10 pm 6:10 pm
This Bully President is a thug and so are his cohorts and all of congress. This is the Chicago Mob we have running America now. Dmeocrats and republicans alike need to go.Term limits need to be put in place. If they want do it then we the people can. Vote against ALL incubents in 2010 and 2012. Lets clean house.
I hope these 4 years go by fast and that the damage done to this country can be fixed.
For the first time in my life I AM ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY!
Posted by: Mary | May 3, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Is this the USA, third world banana republic or mob takeover of Washington.
The unions ruined these companies and now they get a big stake for free and the ”President” is strong arming investors.
Posted by: Paul | May 3, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
We should be very afraid of Obama, we have elected a fascist a person who no love of the United States or her people. The progressives are dangerous people and we should be very afraid of what they may do if they consolidate power. They are different than the Bolshevik.
Posted by: Adealia Artist | May 3, 2009, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
I’ll never buy a union made car!!!
Posted by: Jeff | May 3, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
50%? The bond holders should insist on 100%. They are holders of sercured debt. It’s not their job to look out fot he best interests of Chrysler, but to those who invested with them. The bond holders should force the sell off of assets to recoup the debt owed. Just because the Obama Administration stupidy threw money down the toilet, it’s not the bond holders fault.
Posted by: Tom Genin | May 3, 2009, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
This comes as no surprise. America should expect this type of aggressive behavior and intimidation tactics from a Socialist President. Dear Leader Obama borrows from the Saul Alinski guide to radicalism.
All should recall that each time Obama was challenged whether by Joe the Plumber or a radio station running ads against him, he either employed the news media or lawyers to shut down opposition.
Obama is no better than Putin the thug of Russia.
Posted by: walterLen | May 3, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
The guy who doesn’t care what the US Constitution says (natural born citizen) doesn’t give a rip about a contract.
Posted by: LibertyJustice | May 3, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
“Obama will come up with something, some kind of crisis to hide behind as this story comes out tomorrow.”
I thought this was a distraction to hide the return of military tribunals for our houseguests in Cuba.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 3, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
Why should they accept anything that is not fair. Obama offers $0.29 on the dollar. Many of these hedge funds are owned by State and private retirement funds. How can they accept in good faith this paultry sum. They have a financial responsibility to their clients, not Chrysler or Obama. And I do not doubt there are and will be strong arm tactics by this administration. If you look at the vote, only those that received bailout money, and thus beholden to the government, went along with Obama. Those that remained independent did not. Tell me that there is no fear as to pissing off the Master….
Posted by: Wkenddad | May 3, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
And the reason Obama threatened people is because he has a track record of using the nipple feeders in the press to cover up stories and destroy people.
What about Lawrence Sinclair Mr. Tapper? You let this man become a political prisoner to silence him.
What about John Edwards who was destroyed by the Obama syndicate before the Denver Convention?
What about Rod Blagojevich who was destroyed, because he wouldn’t take Obama crumbs?
What about Eliot Spitzer and the real reason he was taken out in New York as Governor?
The reason Obama threatens people is because YOU Jack Tapper and your ABC Obama corp have been bully thugs for Obama.
You just outed two fine Americans over the interrogation of terrorists when you were complaining of the same thing in Plamegate.
Bush you were screaming for impeachment and Obama you give an hour free press.
Why don’t you do your job Jake Tapper in exposing your own cronies at ABC.
Posted by: Lame Cherry | May 3, 2009, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
“How many cents on the dollar would the bondholders get if Chrysler is liquidated?”
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TBD in bankruptcy court.
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OK, but can anyone make a reliable estimate of what they would get in court? Would it be as much or significantly more than about 30 cents/dollar? Some of these people are trying to portray this as highway robbery.
Posted by: Skip | May 3, 2009, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
“Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than the fact that the office sanctifies the holder of it. “…Lord Acton, apparently referring to the Obamas of the world.
Posted by: Sigmonde | May 3, 2009, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Why is anybody surprised, except for the left that don’t see a problem with anything this administration does, what a bunch of sheep we have become
Posted by: OldMan | May 3, 2009, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
This man has WHine Flu……..Please quarantine him!!!!
Posted by: Chukkalady | May 3, 2009, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
It must be shocking for Obama to learn that there are actually laws and courts and contracts involved in all of this, and that he cannot simply dictate his will on every last human being in the nation, from sea to shining sea.
He gets away with it every other time, it’s nice to see someone stand up to this bully for a change.
Posted by: John | May 3, 2009, 6:27 pm 6:27 pm
Looks like Obama’s ultimate goal is tyranny–when the people are afraid of the government.
No wonder he was so happy to see Chavez
and the Saudi king.
Posted by: riley | May 3, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
i have heard that the whitehouse will not allow companies to pay off there loan from the goverment. isnt this against the law. its un-heard of. a loan company not allowing a debtor to pay his loan back. seems to me a total takeover is in the works and and they will say who gets jobs and runs the business. can you say cronies and campaign donors.i could also see in 4 yrs a takeover aka like venizuella if he loses. we have 19mo before the next cycle. to shut the raping of america and the constitution.
Posted by: carl6352 | May 3, 2009, 6:31 pm 6:31 pm
Threats by the tyrant dictator Obama and his mafia crowd from Chicago are certainly real and this man and his gang need to be impeached and thrown out of office! Personally, I am sick and tired of this gang who are nothing more than thugs and they think they can take OUR money and throw it around like it is candy! This country and nation is a nation Of the people, For the people and By the people and not for the government, and by the government and of the government! Those in the White House think they have total authority over all of us and they do not! Our authority is the Constitution of the U.S. and the Bill of Rights the highest law of the land and the administration is UNDER its control not over it!! It is now time for change all right, a change in the White House and Congress. Vote them out! Let’s start a new party dedicated to the people of America and throw out the thugs in the current tyranical government by demanding a national vote again for President and Congress and the Senate! We need a new election! We can call for a new election according to law! We can demand as a people a new election! They have to grant it to us if we demand it! Let’s get one going again and get backing for a new party run by honest, sincere, dedicated to our Constitution and Bill of Rights type people! Let us demand the elimination of the Progressive Income Tax which came from Moscow when it was initiated and put in place a “National Sales and Consumption Tax” which means every person and entity in this nation will pay a small tax which will solve the nations economic problems almost over night! No entity or person can be “tax exempt” – all pay a percentage when they buy or sell or use something. Accounting principles will be used to establish a proper amount, perhaps around 10% or 15% across the board. In this manner we have a “fair” tax system which stops the Nazi black boot IRS agents and agencies from putting fear in peoples lives and placing people in jail when they get into problems when they don’t have money! Using these cruel and unjust methods to keep people as slaves in this society has to stop! They only use the tax system to get votes and keep people tied to them every time voting comes around! We must stop this nonsense! Let’s get a real change going! One for America and not against America! Obama is against everything we have built and established through the free enterprise and capitalistic system. Nothing has ever been wrong with that system, but we have had people who absued it such as Obama and Barney Frank and others in the past! Men like Madoff abused it but the system wasn’t wrong it was the person!!! Arresst them jail them fine them but don’t throw the baby out with the bath water! Wake up folks Obama wants to destroy Wall Street and Business in America! He will make all of you slaves for sure! He learned his dogma from Rev. Wright which is “Hate America First” for all the problems in the world relating to certain ethnic groups! This must be so or why would he hate American strength arrived at by capitalism and the Free enterprise system? He is a socialist and a neo-marxist! He is not a patriotic American citizen at all!
Posted by: Lamar Carnes | May 3, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
Power, pride, arrogance.
It will bring Obama down.
And his smug little staff too.
Posted by: nick | May 3, 2009, 6:36 pm 6:36 pm
I’m having a flashback to seeing the president bow to the Saudi king. Then hearing their denial, “There was no bow.”
Then the president says, “In particular, a group of investment firms and hedge funds decided to hold out for the prospect of an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout. They were hoping that everybody else would make sacrifices, and they would have to make none.”
But we are suppose to accept “there was no threat” to use the press corps to exert pressure. I’m sure the AIG executives who had buses of ACORN protesters at their homes are as convinced as I am.
If the people are as stupid as this administration clearly thinks, perhaps we do deserve what has and what will happen to us.
Posted by: BAW | May 3, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
The guy that won’t show his Real birth certificate is the same guy that is trying to scare these bondholders by making them look like outcasts because they won’t take his offer
Posted by: manfromuncle1962 | May 3, 2009, 6:40 pm 6:40 pm
I have yet to read or hear anything about the constitutionality of the government intervening in private business matters. I am no scholar but all of these bailouts etc are unconstitutional. The 10th amendment makes that clear.
Posted by: Bob | May 3, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
This has been a remarkable series of comments.
Luria’s allegations sound reasonable to people who remember Obama telling the bankers that he was the only one standing between them and the pitchforks. He may or may not be truthful, but given much of what else is happening today, he certainly is credible.
My husband and I are approaching retirement age. We had accepted a lower rate of return for the security of owning bonds — after pulling all our money out of the market last fall and hiding it under the mattress, metaphorically speaking.
Now that we see the way bondholders are being mauled in the GM and Chrysler restructurings, we have reexamined our bond holdings and are selling off any in companies with any dependency relationship with the government.
Posted by: lbphilly | May 3, 2009, 6:44 pm 6:44 pm
my pension fund invested in bonds, by law these had to include gm, chrysler or ford and other us companies. these bonds are now worthless (bondholders are the first to be paid in bankruptcy court, and usually get paid 100 cents on the dollar) the tax payers in my state are now on the hook for these funds (they were required by state law and backed by the full faith of the state). so think about that before you bad mouth the bond holders.
Posted by: JOHN GALT | May 3, 2009, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
If Ratter’s comment is accurate, we have a lap dog press that fetches for the white house. How depressing. Where is Sam Donaldson when we need him?!!
Posted by: Teresa | May 3, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
O takes over banks, auto industry, and health care in the country; bullies CAO into stepping down; insults tea party protesters; we no longer have a democracy. When will the media and the average citizen understand?
Posted by: S. J. | May 3, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
The other comment from Obama: Wall Street will play a smaller role going forward, hedge funds will shrink and face much stricter regulation.
Let’s remember the previous administration and what Obama has to deal with and mitigate. In the US, it takes the creation of 100K-130K new jobs created PER MONTH just to absorb new graduates into the US workforce. George W Bush and dimwit former US Labor Secretary Elaine Chao rarely met that target, proof that Republican tax cuts don’t work to create jobs. The labor force available in India and China are way too large.
There is no need for a real estate industry in the US. There is no need for more than 1 bank. There is no need for automobile manufacturing. There is certainly no need for hedge funds. The best paying jobs have gone offshore. They’re not coming back. They’re not being replaced.
Posted by: Thinking and Naming Names | May 3, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
chicago thug politics,saul alinski style.
Posted by: gary | May 3, 2009, 6:48 pm 6:48 pm
Its funny how the liberal media loved whisleblowers when they lied about Bush.
And could wait to call for investigates iinto the crimes of the white house!
Posted by: Oh But Bush was a idiot? | May 3, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
Hey, this was a good one, Jake.
Posted by: drjohn | May 3, 2009, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
We don’t need to wait till 2010 or 2012. What we need to do is to continue to grow the Tea Party Movement to show the facist who have gained control of our government that the grass roots people are not going to be taken down without a fight. That will scare the heck out of the Congress who stand for election in 2010 and crush much of the Obama Administrations sway over them in the immediate future. Take to the streets about this facist mixing of corporate and government ownership and abuse of the Constitution and do it now.
Posted by: Richard Fontaine | May 3, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
Why isn’t everybody like Mr. Lauria, who has to deal with “King Obama”‘s handlers, taking a recording device with them to every meeting, every phone call, etc., turning the device on, and clearly stating that every word is being recorded? As long as it’s announced in advance, it’s legal to record a conversation. And to try and stop such a recording, after it’s been announced, is illegal—unless the other party says No, in which case the conversation can’t happen AND the other party can’t make any other kind of statement after the fact. This tactic would stop the bullying.
Posted by: MEF | May 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
Well The whitehouse already has the press licking their boots.They can use the press against anybody they want .They did it to Rush and anybody that gets in their way.I just hope the press and Obama can come crashing down soon.Dont need 8 years of this guy.
Posted by: Tyrone | May 3, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I have to ask why my pension plan, 401K, is less important than the auto company’s. I believe these companies should have my best interest at heart, not the governments.
Posted by: Linda | May 3, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Why has this guy spent over $800,000 with his high priced when it would take $10 to show his birth certificate
Posted by: manfromuncle1962 | May 3, 2009, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm
Apparently Obama believes he knows who should sacrifice and how much. The first sign of a nascent dictator.
Posted by: Jaiy | May 3, 2009, 6:58 pm 6:58 pm
The President of the United States is the chief executive of the United States.
His job is to enforce the law, not to bad mouth those who wish to be protected by the law. These investors have children to feed and protect and their very lives to protect by ensuring they have the money they were promised by Chrysler.
The law is on the side of those bond holders who invested their money and were giving a lien on all assets of Chrysler if the promise to repay was not kept. These investors effectively own all factories and assets of Chrysler if Chrysler is liquidated and has less assets than it owes the secured bond holders.
The UAW received only a promise from Chrysler without any lien on any assets.
Now Obama wants to violate the law and take the assets from the investors who own them and give them to the UAW and FIAT.
There is a conflict of interest when the chief executive officer of the United States, who is suppose to enforce the law, is verbally and financially supporting the law breakers at a Press Conferences.
Posted by: Reality Check | May 3, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
The Obama White House? Bullies? No way, not the Prophet! He has been sent from above to show us The Way!
Posted by: WorldclaZZ | May 3, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
Plain and simple: Chicago style politics on the national stage.
Compromise, bribe and threaten.
Posted by: Gordon Barr | May 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
wow,
all this nutty right wing paranoia, and after only 3 months!
can’t wait to read this crazy stuff after 6 months…..
I love the ‘birth certificate conspiracy’ crazies
Posted by: LOL | May 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
This accusation is not coming out of left field. Bullying is part of this White House.
For instance, “Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother.” That’s what President Barack Obama said to Rep. Peter DeFazio in a closed-door meeting of the House Democratic Caucus recently, according to the Associated Press.
Also if this guy is telling the truth, then the White House believes it has the press working for it. Wouldn’t that be enchanting?
Posted by: graphx | May 3, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Is discouraging investment (investors) during a recession a good idea? If the MSM weren’t responsible for getting Obama elected, they may actually investigate the “cause and effect” of all this populist rhetoric and populist policies. These guys attack businesses daily, want to impose a costly cap & trade policy, impose environmental standards, raise taxes, take away the secret ballot, impose more regulations, etc…. and then question why we’re losing business overseas. The media is too “enchanted” and “getting chills up their legs” over Obama to ever have an honest debate over anything. Congress just signed a $3.7 trillion budget – did you see much debate in the press. If you can’t have a good debate over $3.7 trillion, does anything else matter? We’re headed for $5 gas (to justify solar energy), an extremely weak dollar, debt we’ll never be able to pay (and yes, Bush started it), out-of-control inflation and under current policies, very high unemployment. The koolaid drinkers are too stupid to see it.
Posted by: Kevin | May 3, 2009, 7:08 pm 7:08 pm
Michigan gets what it deserves. They helped put this radical socialist in the White House.
Posted by: AtlasObjectivist | May 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Posted by: Richard Fontaine
‘Take to the streets about this facist mixing of corporate and government ownership and abuse of the Constitution and do it now.’
careful, they’ll start calling you a ‘hippie’ type 60′s radical…..
Posted by: LOL | May 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
The hero here is Jake Tapper. His reporting on this White House is excellent and I now consider him the Golden Standard of White House reporters. Thank you Jake and keep up the good work.
Posted by: dbl | May 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
If Obama wants everyone to sacrifice to save the UAW retirees, then he should have the courage to raise taxes on everyone to do it.
Instead Obama is choosing one set of retirees ( those with retirement accounts invested in SECURE CHRYSLER bonds – to steal 71% of the assets from – to give to only those retirees who used to work for the “NOW BANKRUPT CHRYSLER”.
Instead Obama is a coward.
Who is trying to pretend he is only stealing from rich speculaters on WALL STREET.
That is a lie.
Obama is letting the small SECURED investors get screwed.
The large Investment banks who invested in Chrysler and had CREDIT DEBIT SWAPS will be paid back the the OBAMA administrations Bail Out plan.
Only the small investors with money in retirement funds will lose 70% of their SECURED money in Chrysler. The Investment Banks who own Secured Bonds themselves and insured them via phoney Credit Debt Swaps will get bailed out by the U.S. Taxpayers – so why should they not vote anyway Obama wants them to – Obama is going to “take care” of the Investment Banks – it is only the little guy who wanted to retire someday who will get screwed by Obama in this bankruptcy, if the judge Obama selected gives Obama the “surgical bankruptcy” Obama, the President of the United States, has the told the entire world the Bankruptcy Judge should do if he is one of the “Good Guys”.
Posted by: Reality Check | May 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
kevin
re: ‘The koolaid drinkers are too stupid to see it.’
that’s what anyone with sense said when ‘W’ was selected to be president…
Posted by: LOL | May 3, 2009, 7:12 pm 7:12 pm
The tactics referred to as Chicago style politics, they used to be called fascist. in that system the government doesn’t own the means of production, but instead merely controls the means of production. They seek and have obtained some control of big banking, now the auto sector, energy sector under cap and trade and next: health care. one sixth of the economy
Posted by: randy | May 3, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
Jake – one of the few left. Kinda guy who probably wouldn’t ask “What enchants you about all this power?”
Posted by: Scott | May 3, 2009, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
I am saddened by the American peoples gullible and lazy attitude about our President. They think they know him and that his change is for the good.Even he has told you that he will change American completely, are you ready? For you will be the first to feel the hard cold steel of his reality. I cry for America.
Posted by: Sadbuttrue | May 3, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
wonder where all the financial ‘experts’ here were during World.Com & ENRON….
funny tho’ that the republican anti-litigation crowd is now so ready to believe what an attorney says….
Posted by: LOL | May 3, 2009, 7:18 pm 7:18 pm
“careful, they’ll start calling you a ‘hippie’ type 60′s radical…..”
or a community organizer
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | May 3, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
leading bankruptcy attorney representing hedge funds and money managers told ABC News Saturday that Steve Rattner, the leader of the Obama administration’s Auto Industry Task Force, threatened one of the firms, an investment bank, that if it continued to oppose the administration’s Chrysler bankruptcy plan, the White House would use the White House press corps to destroy its reputation.
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So he claims.
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The lawyer could lose his license to practice law and his lively hood if he lied.
If a government employee get’s caught, no sweat, he has no duty to tell the truth.
Even if a government employee is caught breaking the law, no sweat, as long as Obama believes he is one of the “good” guys he will never be tried, let alone spend a night in jail.
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Seems clear the lawyer has much more to lose here – so why would he do anything but tell the truth – he was a Democratic campaign contributor and a Hillary Clinton supporter according to the article … why tell this story for any reason other than to expose wrong doing and tell the truth.
Posted by: Reality Check | May 3, 2009, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm
Sounds like politics as usual for an Illinois politician!!!!
Posted by: D Smith | May 3, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
And the news is what?
How would an alinsky trained street organizer behavior when told he may not get what he wanted?
This is just more confirmation. And the denial in my mind adds more credence to the story.
Pretty sad in another way. Chrysler is finished. There are just too many other brands selling better cars that are not controlled by the feds.
BHO loses all around on this one too.
Posted by: jimsom weed | May 3, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
Lol posted:
funny tho’ that the republican anti-litigation crowd is now so ready to believe what an attorney says….
Why do you take the administrations word on this? Have you investigated the attorney already and found his character lacking?
Posted by: graphx | May 3, 2009, 7:27 pm 7:27 pm
“How many cents on the dollar would the bondholders get if Chrysler is liquidated?”
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TBD in bankruptcy court.
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OK, but can anyone make a reliable estimate of what they would get in court? Would it be as much or significantly more than about 30 cents/dollar? Some of these people are trying to portray this as highway robbery.
Typically bonds are secured by the assets of the corporation. That means in a bankruptcy court, the bondholders are first in line to get paid -in full- if the assets are adequate. They are a very conservative investment which is why pension and retirement funds, buy them. If you dig really hard you might find Chrysler bonds in your IRA or 401k.
Everybody else, (unsecured debtors) wait in line behind the bondholders to get paid, in normal circumstances.
To answer your question, if the rule of law prevails, the bondholders get 100% or close to it. If the White House throws it’s weight around, who knows? 20% 40%?
I am not a lawyer, just an average retiree watching out for highwaymen.
Hope this helps
Posted by: sozomuse | May 3, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
I have absolutely no doubt something very much like this occurred. Anyone who would doubt it has never played power politics.
DC, still as corrupt as ever…
Posted by: Randall | May 3, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
Jake,
Thank you for being one of the very few who is standing up to a man who is turning out to be a tyrant. Totalitarianism is not the change we were looking for.
Posted by: Mark | May 3, 2009, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
The White House denies?
Here’s all you need to know about the obama administration :
The man bows before the Saudi king and is filmed doing so, and the White House denies he did. So we did not see what we saw?
Ergo, you can’t trust a thing the current administration says.
Posted by: Freddy1 | May 3, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm
The White House said there’s no truth to this accusation after we all just watched Obama carry out his threat to destroy the reputations of these hedge funds. He must think the American people are extremely stupid. He may be right, though. After all, a majority did vote for him.
Posted by: Ollie | May 3, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Chrysler is finished. How many Americans want to buy a car from a company that is owned by union thugs, who were primarily responsible for the downfall of the company in the first place?
Posted by: Thomas Paine | May 3, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
” 2 + 2 = 5.”
- 1984
Posted by: Deimosghost | May 3, 2009, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
No bank willever lend money to a company that is unionised. capital mkt will just break down if UAW controls 55% of Chrysler. Obama is paying back the union for their support.. Corruption at its best
Posted by: tt | May 3, 2009, 8:01 pm 8:01 pm
I can’t believe it. One of the drive-by media is actually covering a real story showing the true lack of character of this President. Way to go, Tapper. I like what I see in you. Keep it up and ABC is going to get rid of your for sure. I’m sure Fox will take you in.
Posted by: Libertarian in Texas | May 3, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
Wah! Wah! Wah! All of the dissident bond holders are big enough boys to know that in the business of reorganization of insolvent companies, there is always a risk of “payback” if one votes the wrong way on a Chapter 11 plan, or if one opposes an asset sale under Section 363.
Many of the dissident bond holders bought their bonds for 15 Cents on the dollar after Chrysler’s insolvency became well known. They are speculators, nothing more. If they didn’t like risk, they should have bought Treasuries.
The lawyers for the dissident bond holders, White & Case, are trying to orchestrate political pressure against the Section 363 sale of Chrysler’s assets. They’ve got pundits writing stories all over the internet of the “unfairness” of national economic interests playing a factor in bankruptcy cases. Too damn bad.
Just last week White & Case’s peers from Wall Street were out in force in Washington, rounding up votes against a bill to amend the Bankruptcy Code to provide homeowner debtors the same right to a mortgage cram down as found in commercial Chapter 11′s. Gee, that sounds political to me. White & Case’s politically immature lawyers need to give it a rest. Win for their clients on the legal merits, or not at all.
Posted by: JenniferK | May 3, 2009, 8:05 pm 8:05 pm
It seems that the Obama apologists here fail to realize that the only reason anyone invests in this country, or buys bonds, is confidence in the LEGAL system. They trust that should their investment go south, there is always recourse in the court system. That is why bond holders, described by Obama as evil “speculators”, are willing to accept a lower return on their money, knowing that thay are first in line at the bankruptcy table.
These evil bond holders aren’t asking for a bailout. They are asking that the courts determine fair value, knowing that they are already going to lose money. Most were willing to accept $0.50 on the dollar.
If Obama prevails, investors will be hesitant to commit their funds in a market where there is no longer the security of laws to protect their investment. Several Dem legislators, are already on record as stating thier interest in nationalization of certain industries. Maybe this is what Obama was aluding to when he stated that Wall Street would have a lesser role in the economy of this country.
Posted by: Lowrider | May 3, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
“death treats,” yummy.
Posted by: Cab | May 3, 2009, 8:09 pm 8:09 pm
Jake Tapper is a real Journalist, a rare breed these days!
It is obvious Perella Weinberg Partners where blackmailed by Obama boys and changed their minds at the last minute.
You can hear the intimidation from the President, imagine what was said in Private to the bond holders(legitimate investors, not greedy speculators as Obama suggests, after all they got a very low rate of return.
Posted by: Theresa | May 3, 2009, 8:13 pm 8:13 pm
Let’s remember Barack Obama fired GM CEO Rick Wagoner on a Sunday night! Proving if you take US taxpayer bailouts, you do indeed have Barack Obama as temporary CEO, maybe much to his annoyance.
Posted by: Thinking and Naming Parts | May 3, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
Why would this Atty Lie about the O Admin?? He HAS Nothing To Gain from making this Story Up…
In fact, this Atty has more to LOSE, such as O Admin, putting him in Jail or Disbarring him….I mean this is what the O Admin does to people they dislike….
This Government we have is As Close to Socialist as we can get and its not done yet….
Posted by: Buzz | May 3, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
I believe it. Obama comes from strong-arm Chicago politics. I hope people continue to come forward and expose the thuggery behind the curtain.
It is a sad day when a reporter is called brave for reporting the truth in America.
Posted by: marisa | May 3, 2009, 8:19 pm 8:19 pm
Jake,
You’re the only journalist coming close to questioning Obama. How long do you think Obama, the Democrats, Michelle, or the Obama voters will really let you keep your job? You know, it’s only a matter of time before they attack you, too. The only message that they will allow the media to report is that which supports “Their Messiah”. They are either in love with him or worship him.
It’s scary isn’t it? But, what else do you expect from people who are so self-important that they let a presidential candidate convince them that they “are the ones they were waiting for”. The self-important Americans voted for the self-important presidential candidate who thinks he is more importatnt than the founders of our country. And, all that after only winning the election by 7% of the vote, he has the RIGHT to remake our country. What a joke!
Posted by: TheAudacityofObamaAndHisWorshipers | May 3, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
LOL said “wonder where all the financial ‘experts’ here were during World.Com & ENRON….”
Those guys cooked the books and went to jail under the Bush administration. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac admitted to cooking the books and what do they get? Bonuses! Do you have a better example to make your point?
Regarding your comment on Bush koolaid drinkers. I agree, there are blind people on both sides. We should all stand for liberty and challenge both sides so we can keep it. Bush was for big government and big spending, Obama is trying to trump him. Both are awful for this country. Blind koolaid drinkers are nothing but pawns for two parties that only care about their power.
Posted by: Kevin | May 3, 2009, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm
Doesn’t matter to me, haven’t bought a US built car since my 1974 Camero rusted out two years after I bought it. my first new car, and my last US car. Been driving Audi’s ever since. Have kept them an average of 8 years each, no rust, no problems. Unions in America have distroyed the Auto industry here, Auto Unions in Germany have built reliable cars and they even get highter wages !
Posted by: Sicario | May 3, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Mr. Lauria, let me help you with your question about how Mr. Obama would feel if one of his mindless thug followers actually hurt one of your people. He would feel nothing and blame you for it. It is obviously your fault for opposing him and trying to represent your clients. You traitor! Believing contracts and your clients trust should be honored when Obama is trying to nationalize this industry. How gauche!
Posted by: Bruce | May 3, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
Good Reporting. Jake Tapper seems to be a real reportes — asks tough, pertinent questions and doesn’t display bias.
Regarding this article — I find it UNbelievable how the White House is acting like a company that is willing to accept 50 cents on the dollar is the PROBLEM, not a car company that can’t honor it’s obligations.
Who is going to do business with anyone — especially loan money — when the risk you take is beling publicly smeared by the president of the US for expecting your business partners to repay their loans to you?
Obama doesn’t STAND with people who are willing to accept 50 cents on the dollar? Is he TRYING to destroy business in America?
He STANDS with the people at Chrysler? What abut all the employees and other companies dependant on the success of the bank for employment? They don’t count? Let me guess — they’re not union….
Posted by: laura | May 3, 2009, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
The more I hear about what Obama and his admin is doing, the more I think of strong arming. First he refuses to allow the banks to pay off the money and now this? People need to start paying attention to what is going on. This is the kind of stuff that leads to impeachment
Posted by: norman | May 3, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm
Who is John Galt?
Posted by: bigtex | May 3, 2009, 8:30 pm 8:30 pm
Traditionally, holders of senior debt end up owning a company when it goes into bankruptcy. If there is anything left over, other creditors get a share according to rules of priority established by the bankruptcy judge.
President Obama has unilaterally overthrown a system that has worked reasonably well for a couple centuries. As a result, potential lenders will stay away from riskier companies; if those companies need to refinance, it will be at much higher rates; and more companies will end up in bankruptcy as a result.
So President Obama may think he has saved Chrysler and done a favor for his UAW friends. But when Chrysler goes to the bond market to raise money the next time, lenders will remember how they got screwed and no one will bid. Just more taxpayer money down the drain, and who will Obama blame next year and the year after?
Posted by: J Baustian | May 3, 2009, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
American made cars are crap. We play a game called “how many chevy’s with one headlight out do you see?” I used to own a Tahoe…got rid of that junk heap after 2 years…after replacing the headlight, the new one was DIMMER than the old one…mechanic told me “live with it, they all are like that”…my wife drives an ’05 Nissan sentra; 265,000 miles & under 1,000 in repairs…NEVER left her sitting. So, the Tahoe is GONE…now MUCH happier with a Nissan Murano. Sorry to tell the jug-eared moron in the White House…but with the government backing the “big 3″…I wouldn’t buy a GM or Dodge now if they were 3 for a dollar. Besides, that idiot is in so far over his head he needs scuba gear!
Change…it’s ALL you’ll have left!
PROgress not CONgress
Change WHAT from WHAT into WHAT???
Posted by: john | May 3, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
Obama threatening or degrading investors again? And people are surprised? A national socialist (fascist) fighting the evil capitalists is as much of a surprise as rain on a cloudy day. Obama and the Democrat Party is the epitome of incompetence, failure, and evil.
Posted by: Robert Peterson | May 3, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
Jake you are the only reporter doing a good job. I hope you don’t get the boot.
Posted by: Vi | May 3, 2009, 8:36 pm 8:36 pm
I would be much less likely to buy an American car if it was majority owned by the unions.
I would be much, much more likely to buy an American car if the company was completely non-union.
Posted by: Bill | May 3, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
Anyone ready to do something about this fraud and corruption in the white house? I am. I call my senators and congressmen EVERY day and encourage everyone to do so. At least they will not have a triumphant and relaxing stay at our white house.
Posted by: Jenny | May 3, 2009, 8:38 pm 8:38 pm
You know what the White House and the Obama Administration is chock full of…. Lawyers. So yeah, I’ll take this guys word over theirs.
Posted by: SubjectofUSSA | May 3, 2009, 8:39 pm 8:39 pm
Politics, Chicago style. Smash mouth. Much more to come. Hope and Change on the march.
Posted by: LDC | May 3, 2009, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
this is not about republicans or democrats. it’s about a group of radicals attempting to deconstruct our nation’s DNA!
Posted by: jonathan | May 3, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
I for one will never buy another auto made by the UAW. They got my money for their gold plated benefits packages, a big fat bailout and the company ownership stake. Obviously their political activism in favor of the crook in the whitehouse has paid off royaly!
Posted by: pickingupthecheck | May 3, 2009, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Well one more interesting tidbit.
Guess who has “insured” with Credit Default Swaps on the bonds of Chrysler?
You guessed it both the Chrysler and General Motors bonds have AIG on the hook for the full payment should the bonds default. So the plot thickens.
Posted by: Nickel | May 3, 2009, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Don’t worry he’ll get around to your industry soon. You’re all too big to fail, let ole Uncle Sam help you out, its for the best.
Posted by: Tim | May 3, 2009, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Don’t forget what they tried to do to Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by: Jenny | May 3, 2009, 8:44 pm 8:44 pm
Jake got this after listening to Mark Levin’s show Friday. Mark berated the press, including Mr Tapper, for not reporting on it.
Posted by: Frankers | May 3, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Mr. Tapper,
Thank you for your honest reporting. We The People must be informed of the truth in order for our Republic to function properly. Please keep up the good work – people are STARVING for the truth. Enough of the double speak and name-calling – none of that is productive. Thank you, sir.
ABC Executive Mangement,
Do not fire this man for doing his job – reporting the facts. This is what sells – the truth. We The People are starved for the truth – your ratings will grow exponentially if you followed a simpel formula of delivering news that is both factual accurate and relevant. There is little time in people’s lives for the news so please help prioritze those that are most urgent to We The People. I appreciate Mr. Tapper’s facts.
We The People,
Read(Or Reread) George Orwell’s book titled “1984″. This is exactly what he speaks about. Need another event? How about buring 8,000 gallons of fuel on Earth Day when we’re all supposed to be more aware of polluting our precious resource, the Earth.
” 2 + 2 = 5.”
- 1984
Posted by: ConstitutionMan | May 3, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Obama sounds like an organized crime boss.
Posted by: adlibn | May 3, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
The White House tells the media to “jump” and the media asks “how high?”. What a bunch of tools.
Too bad this conversation wasn’t secretly taped. If I represented a major corporation I would tape all my conversations with the White House. They can’t be trusted.
Posted by: Yvette | May 3, 2009, 8:48 pm 8:48 pm
Bought a Ford Mercury Grand Marquis last year. Glad I gave my money to Ford and not Obama’s auto companies.
Posted by: Pat | May 3, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
We have been looking for a new car and ABSOLUTELY not buy a car from the union…..
DON’T BUY AMERICA
Posted by: Joe | May 3, 2009, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm
We have been looking for a new car and WILL ABSOLUTELY not buy a car from the union…..
DON’T BUY AMERICA
Posted by: Joe | May 3, 2009, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm
The use of intimidation to solicit votes for a bankruptcy plan is illegal – The judge in this case must now appoint an examiner to investigate as a matter of law – no descrection allowed. Unless they got to him too…….
Posted by: tom2002a | May 3, 2009, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
Corrupt Chicago style political thuggery moves to the Whitehouse in Washington DC.
Posted by: Lee | May 3, 2009, 8:53 pm 8:53 pm
Here we go again. I don’t trust this administration. This is not the first time they have lied.
Posted by: Jeff | May 3, 2009, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm
Nobody should be surprised at this report. We know that banks were pressured into accepting TARP money even though they didn’t need it. They received similar threats. When some of the banks tried to repay the TARP funds, they were again pressured to keep the money so that the Washington bureaucrats could exercise control over them. This current situation is just another example of how these facists do business. If Tapper worked for NBC, he would be out of a job by now. As it is, you will see all of the major networks (except Fox) running denials and smearing anyone who tries to tell the truth. I’m even surprised that Tapper hasn’t been forced to issue a retraction.
For an administration that claims to the world that it is open and transparent, this is the biggest bunch of liars that I’ve ever seen. What’s worse, their Kool-Aid-drinking followers are ok with the obvious examples of deception. This is stuff right out of the pages of communist philosophy… “any act is morally acceptable and ‘good’ as long as it furthers the cause of world communism.”
Posted by: Perseus317 | May 3, 2009, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm
I am impressed that ABC picked this up. I went to the major news services and searched on Perella. CNN – nothing, NBC/MSNBC – nothing, CBS – nothing and even FoxNews – NOTHING. I might have to start watching ABC again if they keep reporting news. We need unbiased media in America again. Not left, not right, just reporting.
Posted by: Andrwe | May 3, 2009, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm
Not surprised this would happen under the tyrant Obama. Folks, this is neo-fascism in action. You wanted it, you got it.
Posted by: Vink | May 3, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
Don Obama is up to his dirty tricks and his capitanos are just following orders.
How many more denials will we see coming out of the White House? I have a feeling it’s just the start.
Posted by: Sickofobama | May 3, 2009, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
When I bought my Honda, I did make sure it was built in America (it was built in Ohio). That’s my Civic. The Odyssey I had before that was built in Lincoln, Alabama. I also make sure that the parts content is majority American, and in both cases it was. This information is available on the sticker. After that, I could care less if it’s one of the “Big Three”. Americans are working building these cars, and there are other cars built here as well–Toyota and BMW to name a few. And guess what? These companies are profitable! Why? Because they don’t have the United Auto Workers Union in there screwing them up, ruining them with their rapacious demands. I agree with a previous post–once these companies are owned by the unions, I wouldn’t even THINK about buying a car from them. The unions are a big reason that the “Big Three” are dying. And this is the payback! Wreck a company, elect a Democrat, and the Democrat will give you the company!! Wow! That’s the way it works now in America. Isn’t anyone nervous that if you disagree with this man or his policies he will threaten to ruin you? This is not just socialism, it is Stalinism.
Posted by: Tom | May 3, 2009, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm
Everyday seems to be a new day in the Twilight Zone, instead of America. Doubt Tapper will be a modern day Woodward or Bernstein because the president is a Democrat, but it would be nice if we actually had a free press in this country that would seek the truth wherever it lead.
Posted by: Since1715 | May 3, 2009, 9:02 pm 9:02 pm
Way to go ABC in reporting this.. look out now!.. I agree with others on this blog.. no more union made cars for me , ever.. I will buy Toyota again and again
Posted by: Mwp | May 3, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
Chicago Sun-Times:
“It’s no secret that Obama loves designer footwear. Her green Jimmy Choo “Glacier” pumps drew attention at the inauguration, and she wore $775 black Jimmy Choo biker boots at the groundbreaking of the White House Kitchen Garden.”
Sunlen left this info out of the earlier report of $540 tennis shoes.
Posted by: mad | May 3, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
Never thought I’d say this to a mainstream media reporter…..”Thank you for the good work, Mr. Tapper. Please keep it up.”
Posted by: Dan Collins | May 3, 2009, 9:05 pm 9:05 pm
BTW does anyone know who the Bankruptcy judge is? That will make a huge difference. If s/he is an activist judge, the rule of law may be in big trouble, thereby threatening the fabric of this country.
Posted by: since1715 | May 3, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Thuggery?, bullying?, subterfuge?, lying?, threatning?, Chicago?
Again I ask, Just where in the hell is there any surprise. We knew this from day one and 52% of our informed? citizens failed to consider it.
Where is the surprise?
Posted by: Youssarian aka: TexasSlim | May 3, 2009, 9:09 pm 9:09 pm
Now let me see–I should believe the Chicago thugs in the White House!!
Posted by: BeneA | May 3, 2009, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm
OMG! They’re actually reporting both sides! Bravo ABC! Now maybe someone can investigate why the Obama administration picked Fiat, the weak sister of the European auto industry, to “save” Chrysler. A company with no infrastructure in the U.S., when an established company like Daimler failed to make it work previously. Last time I checked the nearest Fiat dealer was in Canada.
Posted by: Echo | May 3, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
just because they put it on this blog, doesn’t mean they are “reporting it”..What have you seen on Abc news thet jake reports in his blogs..NOTHING.. this is just lip service so ABC can say thay reported on it, and about 30 people see it on here..Nothing that woudl make Obama look bad wil make the 6:30 nightly news..on ANY network.. Tapper is just blowing wind here, He knows Obama control him
Posted by: How am I doing now Comrades | May 3, 2009, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
It is amazing how dense and superficial much of this nation (a % of voters in ’08) have become. They elect a Chicago politician who fits the perfect mold of corruptness. Clinton was nowhere near this disgusting. It’s a perfect storm, filibuster-proof rule that can use minions to cry racism at dissent and behind-the-scenes intimidation and threats at those who oppose them. God Bless the USA
Posted by: Ryan | May 3, 2009, 9:15 pm 9:15 pm
Let’s face it folks. The majority of Obama’s supporters don’t have a clue about this story and even if they did, they wouldn’t care. Most are mesmerized by the media’s praise of Obama and don’t vote based on policies but what they consider culturally popular. Those relatives in my family that voted for this Leftist have no interest in politics and are clueless on issues ranging from border security to tax policy and government spending. These folks sit glassy-eyed watching American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, etc. and don’t think there is any difference in the two parties.
Our local schools should be teaching courses on the US Constitution, logic, civics, and capitalism. Maybe even a course on the precept that the majority of Western law is predicated on Judeo-Christian principles.
But no – let’s have schools hand out condoms, teach our children about how evil America is, that gun owners and patriots are nutty fanatics, that other religions should be respected at the expense of Christianity, and that morally perverse and medically filthy lifestyles should be embraced for their “diversity.”
PEOPLE – you are watching in REAL TIME the destruction of your own nation! Wake up America!!! Educate the young about our great heritage, the promise of America based on the Founding Father’s vision, and a Scriptural understanding of morality. Less government (from either party) is BETTER government. We need to return to the promise of our US Constitution!
Posted by: An American Patriot | May 3, 2009, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
Isn’t Obama supposed to uphold the LAW? Doesn’t the LAW exist to protect the Creditors?
So Obama will stomp on the Laws that he doesn’t like? So much for the Constitution.
Investigate and IMPEACH.
Posted by: Tom | May 3, 2009, 9:18 pm 9:18 pm
Why is everyone so upset?? This is what we voted for. Well perhaps not everyone, but the majority of Americans that go along with the stylish pick and are too damn lazy to look into the canadate’s background.
Posted by: JJ Fuchs | May 3, 2009, 9:19 pm 9:19 pm
Obama said “We don’t want every single college grad with mathematical aptitude to become a derivatives trader. We want some of them to go into engineering, and we want some of them to be going into computer design.”…..WE DON’T WANT….WE WANT! “WE” is the government under Obama’s control. The government will tell you what to do. We have a tyrant in the White house.
Posted by: Dooley | May 3, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
I wouldn’t be surprised at ALL if this did happen. Obama and his people are twisting arms and dropping threats carelessly with banks, credit card companies, car companies, insurance companies and wherever else they can go. These hedge fund people are losing a boatload of money, and yet the president is unloading on them. Last year, we (ignorantly, I guess) purchased a Chrysler vehicle. Two months ago, we sold our Toyota, which has many years of life left. I will NEVER buy a Chrysler (or GM) vehicle in the future; it’s either Toyota or Honda. They don’t have their hands out to the government, and are not run (or owned) by the unions. America is getting screwed on this whole mess, and the fault now lies on THIS administration, and their buds who head up the UAW. By the way, Jake Tapper writes some good stories; good for him, since he isn’t afraid of actually asking questions of the administration.
Posted by: Tess | May 3, 2009, 9:24 pm 9:24 pm
obama: not too big to fail
Posted by: rinosaurusrex | May 3, 2009, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm
Discredit those who avoid Obamagasms and deny you did anything wrong if caught. Then send in Sandy Burger to destroy any evidence that might exist.
This administration is a destructive force within America. We are watching our country crumble along with the silent old media on the sidelines.
We deserve what we get for letting it happen.
Posted by: Bob Forsberg | May 3, 2009, 9:32 pm 9:32 pm
“The White House press corps”.. That’s the New York Times, right?
Posted by: Dave | May 3, 2009, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm
What this administration is doing is takeing our `country towards socialism. I’m proud after reading these posts that you all are seeing it and speaking out. We need to do it now and do it loud! We must take our country back and fight for what we all believe in!
Posted by: IAMBigB | May 3, 2009, 9:36 pm 9:36 pm
This has all the fingerprints of four people doing all the threatening at the behest of the President. I smell Rahm Emanuel at work with John Podesta and James Carville. This is right up their alley. And last but not least, the media accomplice, George Stephanopoulos. Recall that the rumour was going around that these guys were meeting for breakfasts to dicuss strategy for the Obama Administration, not to criticize it and detract attention and attack foes of the President and his policies.
Posted by: Vic Karras | May 3, 2009, 9:37 pm 9:37 pm
Nothing surprising here. MSMs silence not surprising either. They are hoping for one of these “bailouts” too. It will be interesting to see if they cave to the threats when they are pounded into submission like the bond holders for Chrysler.
Oh, I guess not. They just want whatever money they can get. Journalism is mostly dead.
It is refreshing that Mr. Tapper wrote this, although it is just on a blog. I hope he doesn’t get the thug treatment for this article. Better watch out. ACORN will soon be at his door too. Disobedience will not be tolerated.
Posted by: sue | May 3, 2009, 9:42 pm 9:42 pm
In order for Obama Motors to succeed, the government will soon be telling all of us what car we can and can’t drive.
I feel sorry for Ford, its employees and stakeholders. It has taken no taxpayer money. And as a reward, Obama is funding its two competitors Instead of allowing its them to go under like they should.
Under normal bankruptcy procedures Chrysler assets would be sold off, and it would be history. GM would be restructured into a much smaller competitive company. The surviving companies would all be more profitable by reducing manufacturing over capacity.
Can anyone answer why Obama is giving 35% of Chrysler to a foreign company for nothing??? Don’t tell me its in exchange for technology…have you ever driven a Fiat??
Posted by: Lowrider | May 3, 2009, 9:44 pm 9:44 pm
I blame George Bush!!!!
oh wait…
We can’t blame him anymore….
Posted by: Jack Mehoff | May 3, 2009, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm
The white house press works for a industry going under fast and trying to cling to relevance they will be the next ones in line for the tax payer’s money!
Posted by: Ken | May 3, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
The destruction begins in ways we cannot comprehend when Obama and his Socialist cohorts take control of the Senate. One party in control of all aspects of this government spells disaster. If we had a better education system in this country we would have citizens well versed in the fundamentals of government. One party in charge spells disaster.
Posted by: ALLEN SMITH | May 3, 2009, 9:50 pm 9:50 pm
You know what all these back and forth accusations of they said and did and no they didn’t remind me of? Ron Howard saying the Vatican tried to prevent him from shooting Angels and Demons with the Vat denying it. I’d say Laria is the bigger demon in this case, fo what it’s worth.
Posted by: amber | May 3, 2009, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm
I suspected this was going on behind the scene. I’m glad someone in the media has the courage to report it. Thanks Jake Tapper for doing your job when nobody else in the media is doing theirs!
Posted by: David | May 3, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
Slowly but surely the plutocrats of American business, who contrary to popular opinion are predominantly loyal democrats not republicans, are discovering that they have helped create the Frankenstein monster. Now what will they do? Help to neutralize the monster they helped create, or allow it to destroy them one by one?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: ragnar30066 | May 3, 2009, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
“Can anyone answer why Obama is giving 35% of Chrysler to a foreign company for nothing??? Don’t tell me its in exchange for technology…have you ever driven a Fiat??”
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What’s crazy is the belief that FIAT, for God’s sake, is going to succeed where Daimler failed. But why should we expect them to start making sense now?
Posted by: Chris | May 3, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
THE PEOPLE SHOULDN’T BE AFRAID OF THE GOVERNMENT……THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AFRAID OF THE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Paul | May 3, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
I will not buy a vehicle held up by a socialist government. I will not buy a Chrysler/Obama Vehicle. The costs of retirement benefits and the overhead at Chrysler helped bring them down..
Posted by: Yes | May 3, 2009, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
Why not just buy Ford and Toyota products and let Obama Motors fail. Just a thought.
Posted by: Barbzwire | May 3, 2009, 10:00 pm 10:00 pm
King Obama said during the campaign that the executive branch had too much power and the executive branch had abused its power. King Obama has been not just abusing its power but he has been exercising his imperial powers like no other president before him. It is breath-taking to consider what his administration has done in just a little over 3 months. They are in the process of shredding the constitution and he has set a record for lies in the first 100 days. King Obama is manipulating the American people and the press in a way that is unprecedented. Oh well 53% of the American people proved how dumb we really are.
Posted by: Dan L | May 3, 2009, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm
how do you spell mussolini
Posted by: mr jack bohica | May 3, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
If death threats were issued…I would take them seriously…Obama went to Kenya to support his cousin, Odinga. Fires were set in Christian Churches and lives were lost. This man is a tyrant. His allegiance lies elsewhere.
Mr. Tapper, thank you for reporting on this, now investigate ala Woodward and Bernstein and save our country.
Posted by: ConcernedCitizen | May 3, 2009, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm
The crime is extortion, commonly used in Chicago. If the press does not rain on this story They are willing co-conspirators ! This is an act that financially harms the hedge fund. Now that the politicos are in the business world the law of business apply. Independent Counsel where are you ???
Posted by: Howard Miller | May 3, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
I just pray Mr. Tapper is not fired for daring to voice a dissenting opinion or uncovering real news, especially on ABC. He risks his job.
Posted by: TiberiusDecimus | May 3, 2009, 10:10 pm 10:10 pm
Repulsive. Obama is going to learn the hard way that man will not produce at the point of a gun. His willingness to use force and threats undermines the office of the President. Republicans must coalesce against him and put forth a smart, slick campaign to curtail Obaam’s anti-liberty initiatives.
Posted by: pepe | May 3, 2009, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm
Is anyone really surprised at any of this? We are not allowed to criticize ceasear.
Posted by: MSGT of Marines | May 3, 2009, 10:15 pm 10:15 pm
Gangsta thugs, from Chicago? Oh, my, who woulda thought it?
RAGE AGAINST the CHICAGO MACHINE.
Posted by: vlscpa | May 3, 2009, 10:16 pm 10:16 pm
Fiat has always stood for Fix It Again Tony. Hot rolled steel bodies that rusted while you watched, interference engines that destroyed themselves if you didn’t change the timing belt religiously and other mechanical and electrical gremlins that drove you nuts. No Fiats sold in this country for almost 25 years. Wonder why? And they’re gonna save Chrysler?
Posted by: Dooley | May 3, 2009, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
I hope that all you lemmings who voted for Obama are proud of yourselves. Nothing like voting out capitalism and voting in socialism, higher taxes, fewer individual freedoms, increased government intrusion, loss of respect world-wide, and the destruction of free enterprise. Take an economics 101 course and socialism 101 course and educate yourself on what your Democrat party is doing to America. Obama, Pelosi, Biden,and Reid should be ashamed, but they’re too ignorant to know any better. Lord help us!
Posted by: Democrats Have Hosed Us | May 3, 2009, 10:19 pm 10:19 pm
Expect more bullying. It’s Chicago/Chavez style intimidation. This sort of thing happens when you get a cult of personality type Socialist takover.
Posted by: Volt | May 3, 2009, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
I absolutly believe this guy. Obama’s Gestapo is at it at it again.
Posted by: ratdog | May 3, 2009, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm
“‘The charge is completely untrue,’ said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, ‘and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.’”
Count how many time the Obama administration uses the word “obviously” in a misleading and inappropriate manner. Gibbs’ press briefings are full of them.
Whenever, I hear the word obviously from the White House, I hear, “Look, away. There’s nothing to see here.”
When there “obviously” is something that requires further investigation.
Posted by: Obviously | May 3, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Why should anyone be surprised Obumbler just seized an American auto company from its legal owners and gave it to the UAW.
I have been searching the web all weekend and nary a peep.
This is Fascism and Hugo Chavez behavior.
The Bond Holders own $28 Billion of debt and have seniority rights to be paid first. These laws date back to the founding. The UAW was promised $10 billion in common stock and are last in line to be paid.
Yet this administration gave the bond holders an offer of 10% and the UAW 55% of the company.
Worse yet, when Chrysler- and soon to be GM -negotiate a new contract with there own company Ford, who never accepted any bail out money will be forced to go along. Or, go on strike while these union made companies fill the gap.
And the press, they just go on as if nothing has happened.
Except for Jake that is, good job, as long as you still have one.
Posted by: TitanTrader | May 3, 2009, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm
Tapper neglects to mention HOW Rattner would use the press to ruin Perella.
Rattner’s best friend forever is Pinch Sulzberger, owner of the New York Times.
Rattner’s threat had serious credibility given his NYT connection.
Posted by: CK | May 3, 2009, 10:25 pm 10:25 pm
Obama is a thug and fraud.
Posted by: Pontus | May 3, 2009, 10:27 pm 10:27 pm
.May 3rd,2009 10:05 pm
Those Hedge Fund Managers and Owners should be ashamed of themselves as to be that greedy. How do these people sleep at night knowing that because of their money grubbing greed they are directly responsible for thousands of American workers losing their jobs. We are one of those families here in Kokomo, Indiana and you have no idea what this is like not knowing what your future holds day by day. Americans need to come together and defend the American worker and the products they build. No more foreign cars and foreign products.
Posted by: mary | May 3, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
From my 1971 Charger 500 to my 2005 Durango I have purchared Chrysler cars exclusively. But NO MORE. I will not support management, debt holders, or workers who embraced a fascist takeover of an American icon.
Posted by: nostromo | May 3, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Please replace that metrosexual Georgie Stephanopoulus with this Tapper gentleman. Maybe you could get something more then a softball thrown at this administration. I half expect Georgie to put his finger to his dimple and turn it while asking questions. What a tool.
Posted by: Barry O'Carter ll | May 3, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Of course Perella Weinberg will deny that any threat was made. If they admit to taking the White House’s deal because of a threat to their reputation, they would admit to selling out their clients and breaching their fiduciary duty.
Posted by: Think about it | May 3, 2009, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm
Sorry to put it to you all. Each of you who voted for “change” and “yes we can” have been mesmorized into a sham by the “PIED PIPER”.
Posted by: I'm Sane | May 3, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
Welcome to “hope and change”. Are you better off now, or were you better off two years ago when Bush was president? Obama is the GOP’s best hope for the presidency in 2012. By 2012, the country will be so miserable under Obama, they’d elect a yellow dog over the messiah.
Posted by: Patrick C. | May 3, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
This is a violation of the constitution.
The economic concept of private property refers to the rights owners have to the exclusive use and disposal of a physical object. Property is not a table, a chair, or an acre of land. It is the bundle of rights which the owner is entitled to employ those objects. The alternative (collectivist) view is that private property consists merely of a legal deed to an object with the use and disposal of the object subject to the whims and mercies of the state. Under this latter view, the state retains ownership and may at any time regulate or even repossess the property it temporarily cedes to individuals.
They sacrifice. They were willing to sacrifice for this deal. .50 cents to the Dollar instead Obama want them to take.29 cents of the dollar. This is not being fair.
Posted by: Boston | May 3, 2009, 10:36 pm 10:36 pm
Those hedge funds aren’t rich people, it’s teachers and firemen and policemen’s retirement fund. If the Unions can have a stake of the company in the name of protecting their members retirement funds why shouldn’t the retirement funds in the hedge funds be protected too? Honestly, the Union shouldn’t receive one share of the company.
Posted by: Just the Facts | May 3, 2009, 10:37 pm 10:37 pm
For the White House to threaten a private enterprise with destruction via the White House press corps would seem to imply that the press is complicit in the purported administration successes and that the press are simply minions assigned to do the president’s dirty work. But an impartial press wouldn’t do that, would they? They are impartial, right? I mean, left? Charlie? Brian? Katie? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
BOHICA!
Posted by: Woody | May 3, 2009, 10:42 pm 10:42 pm
How much money would the hedge funds lose for pensions for teachers firefighters and police officers with this deal? That’s what I would like to know. These hedge funds invest a lot of pension money. I for one would not want 29 cents back for each $1 I was suppose to get in retirement
Posted by: Randy | May 3, 2009, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
WHO IS JOHN GAULT?
Posted by: Craig | May 3, 2009, 10:44 pm 10:44 pm
posted by mary
“Those Hedge Fund Managers and Owners should be ashamed of themselves as to be that greedy. How do these people sleep at night knowing that because of their money grubbing greed they are directly responsible for thousands of American workers losing their jobs. We are one of those families here in Kokomo, Indiana and you have no idea what this is like not knowing what your future holds day by day. Americans need to come together and defend the American worker and the products they build. No more foreign cars and foreign products.”
Uh hello?? 1) Many Americans are in the same boat as you, although they will receive ZERO from the government.
2) Clearly your Chrysler product produced by American workers is/was not as good as the so called “foreign” cars produced by American workers. Blame your crap union for pricing you out of the market.
Posted by: natanarchist | May 3, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
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Dear Mr. President,
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In your first 100 days you’ve made it clear that you are an untrustworthy character. Your claims of transparency were shown to be lies. Your claims of bipartisanship were proven to be empty words as you bulldozed over republicans. You’ve place many cheats into your own cabinet. You’ve been implementing the extreme radical liberal ideology that your whole career has warned us about but many refused to notice. So it is no surprise, with your mission to turn the USA into the USSA (the United Socialist States of America) that you would be bullying and strong-arm capitalism into the socialist model.
Posted by: N Waff | May 3, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
A Big THANKS to Jake Tapper.
He is the ONLY reporter from any of the major networks or PBS that asks ACTUAL questions.
While most reporters are asking Boxers or Briefs — or what is the most “Enchanting” aspect of being president….
JAKE actually asks questions.
Outside of Jake, the media, all of it… is dead.
It’s no longer the “media”… it’s the Glee Club.
Posted by: Ster | May 3, 2009, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm
It looks like I will never purchase another GM or Chrysler vehicle. I will not support a company controlled by socialist tyrants.
Posted by: Einstein | May 3, 2009, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
“After I had spoken abt. about fifteen of the businessmen spoke in turn. The general burden of their talks were rather querulous complaints about the unfriendliness of the administration and abt. the lack of confidence which businessmen have in the present administration. They rather indicated that until there was greater confidence, prosperity would not return.” Back to the future folks; that quote was from Rexford Tugwell, an FDR staffer with regards to the New Deal. It could very easily be said abt. the situation today. It was true then, it will be true now.
Posted by: Christopher | May 3, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Who is John Gault?
It is I…
It is You…
It is all of us that haven’t had the wool pulled over our eyes.
Bush II was horrible… this is worse.
When will we take BACK our country?
Posted by: Ster | May 3, 2009, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
who is john galt?
Posted by: sgm | May 3, 2009, 11:00 pm 11:00 pm
“The White House said”..first clue of a lie…. I know for a fact they never have threaten an opponent…I lied
Posted by: susto | May 3, 2009, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm
Mr. Tapper, you give many hope that there are still honest journalists out there. A great many Americans appreciate what you are doing. Many of us feel that we can only count on a few journalists or news agencies to seek out the truth and let us decide. It is nice to see that we can count on you to give us the truth. Work hard, stay on an honest path, provide the American people with information that serves us to know and you will be rewarded in your life and career for the good work you do. Thank you.
Posted by: pjean | May 3, 2009, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Well if folks do not like this deal with Chrysler an the fact its a payoff to the UAW for their support in electing Pres Obama, just don’t by the product. An if you think this is bad, wait until they start messing with Healthcare. You get what you vote for.
Posted by: Willie | May 3, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
ABC is just trying to make up for their previous treasonous behavior for outing Gitmo psychologists who were just doing what their country asked them to do. Nonetheless, good job ABC for finally doing the right thing.
Posted by: Gregory Merle | May 3, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
And Trapper announces move to FNC (Yeah!) in 5 … 4… 3… 2…
Posted by: Atlas_Shrugging | May 3, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
This story rings true in light that Obama immediately came out on the attach. He blamed the Chrysler bankruptcy on the speculators. That characterization in itself is untrue. The so called speculators hold pension funds for us poor folk. I support their stand. Citigroup and the other capitulated under Obama’s strong arm tactics. Keep in mind fellow investors, that many people are shareholders in Citigroup, JP Morgan and we are getting sold down the river.
Posted by: Debbie | May 3, 2009, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm
Remember what Thomas Jefferson said,
“When the people are afraid of government, it’s called tyranny. When the government is afraid of the people, it’s called liberty.”
Posted by: pjean | May 3, 2009, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm
Yes, the press sucks (not you, Mr. Tapper), but that’s not going to change. We need to rely on ourselves to tell the truth to everyone we know…every day. Talk, write, lobby, convince. This has to be a groundswell. WE the people will ultimately save our country.
Posted by: Steve | May 3, 2009, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
This is how it’s done in a communist/socialist country. Change we can believe in. Yay!!!
Posted by: Jeff Daniels | May 3, 2009, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm
Why would we ever think that Obama, who came from the COPRRUPT CHICAGO DEMOCRATIC PARTY, would ever “stoop” to threat?
After all his “Chief of Staff” once set a DEAD FISH, wrapped in paper, to an opponent.
Obama is a DIEHARD EXTREMIST just like his Father, who abandoned him and was a FAILURE, and his Step-Father.
Anyone/everyone he surrounds himself with will do ANYTHING to retain/advance their thirst/quest for power.
Jeffrey Schrembs, American Citizen
Posted by: Jeff Schrembs | May 3, 2009, 11:26 pm 11:26 pm
Posted by Mary- “Those Hedge Fund Managers and Owners should be ashamed of themselves as to be that greedy. How do these people sleep at night knowing that because of their money grubbing greed they are directly responsible for thousands of American workers losing their jobs. We are one of those families here in Kokomo, Indiana and you have no idea what this is like not knowing what your future holds day by day. Americans need to come together and defend the American worker and the products they build. No more foreign cars and foreign products.”
After perusing the comment sections of several articles I came across the exact same, and may I say, idiotic comment above. Interestingly enough, the comment this article says “posted by Mary”. Pathetically,the only comment on the NYT article is posted by Renee Dodson. It is the same post. So are you Mary? Renee Dodson?
Posted by: K. M. Burkholder | May 3, 2009, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm
let me see if I have this right:
it’s the union’s fault because they asked for decent wages and benefits, while their CEO’s were getting 60+ million a year plus millions more in retirement packages all while continuing to block new mileage requirements and think sensibly about new cars that get better MPG, let alone have alternative energy usage….US car makers have been designing inferior cars for decades… but it’s the unions fault.
No one complained about the wall St. types raping the country until they ruined the economy, but unions get too much money…
No one cared about Enron or World Com as that guy already posted.
when money is an issue, forget it, don’t ask republicans to be be patriotic,.. they’ll get other peoples kids killed, but don’t mess with their money.
on the plus side, everybody posting here is beginning to realize what they didn’t bother to learn in school about economics and the way the government works, that doesn’t mean they understand what the heck they’re talking about,
most just copy from Wikipedia so they can post information….heck, they don’t even remember what happened from 1999 to now.
the most amusing things are the references made that the US now is somehow following in the footsteps of WW2 Germany….or 20th century Soviet Union… I believe you folks really need to go back to school and revisit those courses.
Posted by: Galaxo | May 3, 2009, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
Those four financial institutions – JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley, and Goldman Sachs — are recipients of up to $100 billion in federal government bailout funds, though the Obama administration insists the matters were kept completely separate.
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This is all you need to read. The rest is filler. It’s obvious there’s pressure, and the administration has all the leverage it needs. Look at who the debt-holders are… IE TARP.
Posted by: Gregg | May 3, 2009, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
pepe
you said; “Republicans must coalesce against him ”
Republicans ? who? oh yeah…
I remember them,
they were some kind of political cult.
Posted by: No Sir | May 3, 2009, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
THANK YOU, JAKE TAPPER!! I am THRILLED
to see that we actually have a reporter
on ABC who is willing to step-up and report on stories such as this. I was about to think that all hope was lost.
Please, please continue to bring the real truth to the American people. You have my respect and my gratitude. If only more reporters had your ethics and
your courage, America would be much better off.
Posted by: Renee | May 3, 2009, 11:43 pm 11:43 pm
I was shocked to see this from ABC after the report on the CIA and interrogations. What a change. I am not surprised with the fact that this WH would use bullying. When you have a socialist in office you begin to wonder if it isn’t like having a dictator. I can’t wait for the next 100 days….. Many people will tell you that he threatened radio stations if they said anything negative about him. This man never fooled me. Hopefully there will be more solid reporting from ABC in the future.
Posted by: Maureen | May 3, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
It’s ALL Bush’s fault!!! :-)
Posted by: Guillermo | May 3, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
The White House categorically denied the charge, so you know it is categorically true. Not even remotely surprising. Obama likes to pretend to float above the barroom tactics of his plug uglies, but you know that place is a pit of vipers and he knows all about it.
Posted by: Trevor T | May 3, 2009, 11:46 pm 11:46 pm
I so regret voting for him. I think much of America was lulled by his image and blinded to his substance. Today he steals from the automaker bondholders, tomorrow he’ll steal from shareholders in public companies, and next week he’ll be rifling through the drawers in our homes looking for cash. We need to put a stop to this immediately. Let your elected officals know that you will hold them responsible if they don’t do whatever they can to defang this beast.
Posted by: ben | May 3, 2009, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
“It’s ALL Bush’s fault!!! :-)”
Posted by: Guillermo
c’mon now, … don’t get on old ‘W’s case…Bush was 100% correct with every domestic and international policy decision ‘he’ ever made.
Posted by: BiggerT | May 3, 2009, 11:52 pm 11:52 pm
What does any of this have to do with the completely impotent GOP? It’s just the 55 million Americans that have not been successfully indoctrinated and mesmerized by the public school teachers, universities and Obama political machine. Of course that’s only about 5% of anybody under 30 since they have been subjected to the indoc for all of their lives in every facet of their lives. NOTHING the Obama machine does would surprise me, and the under 30s are texting and listening to their Ipods and not paying any attention to what’s going on. But they did vote for their fashionable hero. Can’t wait to see their faces in a few years when they get their tax bill from the fed gov. HAHAHAHA suckers!
Posted by: MassaJim | May 3, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
ben:
re: Let your elected officals know that you will hold them responsible
isn’t that why the republicans were kicked out
in 2006 & 2008? they were held responsible by the electorate…..
Posted by: realtime | May 3, 2009, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm
Let me get this straight Galaxo. The pennies on the dollar that President Obama and the administration want to give to Chrysler debtors is coming out of the pockets of $60 million+ CEO’s? Or is it possible that pension funds who invest our hard-earned money might be making some of this patriotic sacrifice that the President talks about? The debt that Chrysler owes is incurred by direct or indirect investors and in the end affects us all in one way or the other, whether our employers invest our monies for the future or we choose to invest ourselves. This seems to me to be a takeover, paid by us, the taxpayer, to make good on political debt owed to the UAW. Enlighten me on how this if I am wrong.
Posted by: K. M. Burkholder | May 3, 2009, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm
Question of the day? When will the press and Congress start asking for an investigation to see if the administration is governing by threats.
Answer: If it is a Republican administration – immediately. If it is Obama’s – never. He is entitled to do anything he wants any way he wants because he is the darling of the media and promises lots of stuff to people. He will break the promises, but,hey, he said it and that’s enough.
Posted by: Lukuj | May 3, 2009, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
When is someone in the media finally going to ask the administration when they start owning some of this mess. It’s always someone elses fault with these guys even when it is now well known that Obama’s guys were highly involved in developing the first bailout during Bush’s term. These guys are worse than what we had and someone needs to finally call it like it is.
Posted by: Stephen | May 4, 2009, 12:04 am 12:04 am
K. M. Burkholder
since you didn’t read or understand my post I’ll simplify it for you: ‘everyone’ seems to be blaming the unions for the automotive industry problems, but no one seems to want to admit that it was malfeasance by the CEO’s, that designed bad products and ignored the ‘writing on the wall’ and lobbied for years against new government efforts to make cars better and more efficient.
It’s seem that’s it’s OK for CEO to make mega millions.. running their respective companies into the ground with equal amounts of bad planning, bad products, and over paid CEO’s who were not held accountable for their bad decisions…… but some how the unions get blamed for bad management decisions.
Posted by: Galaxo | May 4, 2009, 12:04 am 12:04 am
Uh, Excuse Me?
Does anyone remember Daimler was going to shut Chrysler down COMPLETELY?
A few hedgefunds said, NO! WE BELIEVE IN CHRYSLER AND THE AMERICANS THAT BUILD IT; Here is a HUGE BOATLOAD of:
OOOOUUUURRRRRR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!
Here you go Daimler (GERMAN COMPANY BY THE WAY!), have a nice day with our money!
NOW! American Auto Workers, Make us some good cars again and turn us a good profit for our INVESTMENT IN YOU!!!.
SSSSCCCCCCCRRRRREEEEEEAAAAAAACCCCCHHHH!
Hi, My name is OBAMA and HEAR ME ROAR,
CLEARLY! NOW DONT MISUNDERSTAND, I AM THE GOVERNMENT! I AM HERE TO HELP?!?
You go away you sleazy little greedy investors! Your measly 50cents on the dollar is not enough of a “SACRIFICE” for those that really do the “HARD WORK” (GS, CITI, MORGAN, etc.)
GO AWAY you money-grubbing-believers that believed an American tradition like Chrysler should be grappled from the dieing hands of Daimler! We (Government) own Chrysler now and you are either for us (government) or against us!?!
Did I miss something? Who really took the risk and who is being rewarded?
‘Licious
Posted by: Robalicious | May 4, 2009, 12:07 am 12:07 am
OBAMA CAN DO NO WRONG.
But anyone affiliated with him will.
I love it, “Welcome to Chicago!”
Obama’s kinda town…
Posted by: Rob S in Fl | May 4, 2009, 12:09 am 12:09 am
And remember…any of you with pension funds etc. that could possibly be invested by these folks should be very happy they didn’t cave.
Obama wants a payout to the UAW. They hold no secured debt but were ahead in line over those with secured debt. That isn’t how it is supposed to work. I’m glad someone finally said NO to the thugs in the WH.
Posted by: Right Wing Extremist | May 4, 2009, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Good God. This is thugacracy and beneath the dignity of the United States of America. I sincerely want Obama out in 2012 and the Democrats out of the majority in 2010. I love this country and cannot bear to see what some may describe as brilliant political maneuvering, but what is in fact little different than the sort of underhanded bullying that routinely goes on in third world countries and tin horn dictatorships, not in our land of liberty.
Posted by: joyncalifornia | May 4, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
How do you think OBAMA DRAMA got where he is today? Alot more people were threatened along the way than we know. And, they deny and deny and deny.
Posted by: bpower | May 4, 2009, 12:15 am 12:15 am
The administration goes about its business like the Mafia goes about its business.
Sad times for this country. Did i really vote for Obama?
Posted by: Irk | May 4, 2009, 12:16 am 12:16 am
OK, here’s what we will have in the American auto industry. The government and the UAW will now own controlling interest in the American car companies. The government will require that they now make “green” cars that no one wants to buy. The UAW will require union wages and benefiits that are almost double the foreign owned/US manufactured scale. Guess what you get? An American car that is of inferior quality, that costs too much and nobody wants to buy.
It sounds a lot like the Lada and Yugo of the old Soviet Union. After more than 20 years of owning American made cars, I’ll be buying a Honda or Toyota.
Posted by: Picman | May 4, 2009, 12:17 am 12:17 am
Joe the Plumber and Bristol Palin can tell you what the national media is willing to do to that stand in the way of Dems.
Notice how little hounding they give to Rangle, Murtha, Feinstein.
Posted by: rfpzzzzz | May 4, 2009, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Galaxo, thanks for “simplifying” it for me. I understand now. Thanks for enlightening me, as I don’t have the intelligence that you possess, nor the reading skills. Sometimes we just need to be talked down to now and then to truly understand. I don’t deny that management makes bad decisions. However, I don’t think that government is a good manager. Do you? I grew up in a steel town that had as its sole provider of jobs, a large eastern-steel company. Over the years, as the company needed to change in order to compete, management AND the union destroyed it. They had a vote that would have kept the company open. It was narrowly rejected. Those who had enough years (majority)to receive their pensions voted for their own self-interests, at the expense of those with less than 20 years. Plant closed. The town has fallen into disarray. Hundreds of towns have fallen to the same fate. By the way, I AM a union member. My grandfather was a member of the steelworkers’ union at a time when companies took advantage of their workers and safety was an issue. I, however, can see that fault can be placed on all sides. It seems to me that you believe that the blame game is one-sided. By the way, I have always driven American-made vehicles. My curiosity gets the better of me. Have you?
Posted by: K. M. Burkholder | May 4, 2009, 12:28 am 12:28 am
Good job, Jake, fronting that denial on behalf of Obama! You, and all your cronies in the mainstream media, do such good foot work on his behalf.
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | May 4, 2009, 12:31 am 12:31 am
This country has gotten the leader it deserves: A Chicago Thug.
Posted by: George Washington | May 4, 2009, 12:31 am 12:31 am
I think it is highly interesting that the vast majority of posters re this article are unfavorable to the White House, when the “polls” show that Obama is extremely popular. There seems to be a disconnect. Do you suppose the reason the MSM hasn’t reported on this other than this one blog is that if people actually learned about what Obama is doing his beloved poll numbers might go down? Surely not.
Question: will this be like the Dan Rather memos or the John Edwards affair, ignored by the MSM, but finally breaking through to them once they could ignore it no longer?
Posted by: since1751 | May 4, 2009, 12:33 am 12:33 am
it is all very simple. when negotiating with the white house, just ask for a car and a kitchen and a home to go with any deal that you want, fall into line with their offer and then kiss the ring. in this way you get to stand behind the ONE as HE “tells” the American people how much company XYZ supported him and the people and how everything is fair now.
Everything IS getting wrapped up in nice little packages now and it won’t be long before every piece of legistalation that BHO wants slides through congress.
will anyone be surpised when a conservative supreme court justice suddenly decides to “retire”?
Posted by: infinitewisdom4u | May 4, 2009, 12:47 am 12:47 am
Most of these comments here are blaming the president, polliticians and others of that type, of one party or the other, for the problems this country is facing.
How about all the ignorant voters who put this Chicago based criminal organization into power? That is where the problem got its start. Yes, we got change alright, but can we ever hope to change it back to something approaching an honest capable government again?
Posted by: Russ | May 4, 2009, 12:47 am 12:47 am
In a corporate bankruptcy the bondholders are to be paid before the stockholders see a penny.
That’s why retirement funds buy bonds instead of stocks.
Now, we have a bunch of crooks changing the rules for their friends without even going though the motions of changing the law. The result will be the loss of faith in US corporate bonds. Who will buy US paper after they do this? This government policy will single handedly turn every US corperate bond into junk.
Posted by: Harvey Birdman | May 4, 2009, 12:49 am 12:49 am
They kicked Wall Street out and brought in the Chicago Mob.
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 12:53 am 12:53 am
I decided to check some of the “facts” in the comments and started with the 93,000 Congress gave itself.
I was shocked by Pelosi’s being so out of touch that she’d wear a string of Tahitian pearls the size of shooter marbles, so I expected to find something.
Nope.
Republicans in a choice between lesser of evils make even “Let Them Eat Pearls” Pelosi look good.
Knock if off.
Posted by: yomamma | May 4, 2009, 1:02 am 1:02 am
Conservatives and their opinions are irrelevant now. But type away to vent your frustrations, it’s funny as hell.
Posted by: happy_you're_gone | May 4, 2009, 1:10 am 1:10 am
I read the story and 5 random posts bottom up, 2 were paid Soros flamers, who need to remember to discuss specifics of the story, to avoid detection, 3rd says the “press corp needs to “on guard” about this”, 4th stated a WaPo story I remember, which supports this story, 5th believed the story as written. The only problem with the story is it doesn’t go far enough, but backing up, I can’t even believe Jake Tapper had been allowed to stay. His question last week re. Biden and The Family Guy’s answer, causing the entire room to erupt with laughter at (the curtain being open for two seconds -”Here’s what he meant to say”.) The Chicago Thug issue was mentioned. Ask yourself, how does Daley, Blago, Obama get away with all what they do and retain ABSOLUTE power- This is the way it gets done. Finally, the guy posting that the “press corp needs to be on guard about this”. Don’t forget your helmet the next time you go out for a walk. Great story Jake, many of us know it’s happening, but nice to move closer to the reality of the farce which is much, much worse than what is told here.
Posted by: Crusader | May 4, 2009, 1:16 am 1:16 am
It’s all LIE’S! Obama would never lie or omit the truth. The networks and press are all lying! This is a conspiracy with the auto industry, wall street, former defense secretaries, and intelligence directors. Obama is saying we don’t need banks, investors, and small business owners anymore, everyone gets a fair share of everything, isn’t anyone listening?!
Posted by: Calvin Hobbes | May 4, 2009, 1:17 am 1:17 am
K. M. Burkholder
if you read my post you’ll find I was speaking about the auto industry, not the steel industry.
if you want ‘generalize’ my post to fit your own agenda …go for it.
BTW: the 1st two cars I ever owned were made in the USA, they fell apart and rusted away…and the dealers were a big pain to deal with…
I have driven Honda’s ever since with the one exception of trying a VW Passatt in 2000….. which ended up being a lemon, I sued the company and won my suit.
My current car is an ‘american made’ Honda.
Posted by: Galaxo | May 4, 2009, 1:22 am 1:22 am
“Obama knows he owns the press corps”
Reaganite Republican
wow…. Obama owns FOX … that’s news
Posted by: CRT | May 4, 2009, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Obama = Cheney
Bush = Biden
Rahm = Rove
2009 = 2008
This
Posted by: Wilson | May 4, 2009, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Thanks, Jake, for trying to see what’s behind this “one” roadblock.
Perhaps this story will serve to force your reporter antennae up and give you cause to drive all the way down the road toward finding “The Whole Truth” even if that road is, indeed, rocky.
Posted by: Christine | May 4, 2009, 1:26 am 1:26 am
perella weinberg and white and case can go crash with everyone else. these are the corporate groups that stand only as an obstruction to the rule of the president, using ‘law’ and the guise of ‘financial fairness’ as a shennanigan to prevent our nation from effectively reorganizing itself in the wake of crisis. you cant blame them though, they and all the other shark firms out there will be proudly embattled on the way down. I say, to the president
keep up the fight, and dont stop leaning on the corporates for one second. they stand only in the way of a stable equilibrium at this point. Only when some stabillity is gained, capital reserve requirements increased and investor leverage more fully regulated, and losses redistributed, should these players be thought of as partners in the new economy.
Posted by: wall street lawyer | May 4, 2009, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Alright, enough already. I’m sorry I voted for Obama, it was a mistake. He’s in over his head, but he’s all we have right now. I thought his team would do better than a bunch of back room dealing like Bush. Oh well, I guess I need to sit in the penalty box for the the next election.
Posted by: charles J. | May 4, 2009, 1:35 am 1:35 am
In the absence of a protectionist trade war which would bring on worldwide depression, the auto industry (and millions of union members) will go the way of the U.S. steel industry. That is to say, they are standing on the beach watching a tsunami coming their way. Unless the unions agree to a fifty percent reduction in wages and benefits (and if history teaches us anything, they won’t), twenty years from now, the wealthy will buy cars built in Germany, and the middle and lower class will buy cars built in China and Korea. The U.S. auto industry as we know it will cease to exist, another victim of union greed. If we could just import government, unions would cease to exist altogether.
Posted by: jtinca | May 4, 2009, 1:54 am 1:54 am
jtinca
“Unless the unions agree to a fifty percent reduction in wages and benefits (and if history teaches us anything, they won’t)’
you left out the millions in CEO’s salary and millions in bonus’s , and retirement benefits,
in your wage reduction rant… WHY?
Posted by: exscupt | May 4, 2009, 2:20 am 2:20 am
How many cents on the dollar would the bondholders get if Chrysler is liquidated?
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Around $.60 on the dollar according to reports, or almost double what Obama “suggested” (wink, wink). They will get this because if Chrysler is liquidated, everything is sold and the bondholders get paid first- everyone else would get zilch. Screw Obama, his shiny new little car company still has to abide by contractual law- this isn’t Venezuela- yet.
Posted by: Joe | May 4, 2009, 2:28 am 2:28 am
Anyone that would defend the White House for this is nuts. Obama got elected, he won but the President has not authority over the judicial branch of government.
We are now in dictatorship. How to fix it? Democrat controlled Congress will not vote to impeach. We do still have that 4th branch of government!
Posted by: Holly | May 4, 2009, 2:34 am 2:34 am
More Obama extortion victims need to stand up to this creep. There is power in numbers…the more of a pattern it becomes, the more this woeful president is exposed for the fraud that he is. Hang in there Mr Lauria, you’re not alone.
Posted by: Joe | May 4, 2009, 2:34 am 2:34 am
Yep, the Chicago Thug rears his UGLY head! I haven’t heard OBAMA tell us that he is giving ANY of his 4 million dollars he and his American Hating woman made last year. Where are HIS sacrifices? He is a total pig! The popularity of this scum is only because the media ONLY gushes when he opens his mouth. THis is the MEDIA’S president – Not ours!!! 55 million Americans do NOT want this socialist in power destroying our great land. Sacrifices? Yeah, where is OBAMA’S sacrifice???? Hypocrite!!!
Posted by: Obama the Embarrassment | May 4, 2009, 2:35 am 2:35 am
How many cents on the dollar would the bondholders get if Chrysler is liquidated?
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Around $.60 on the dollar according to reports, or almost double what Obama “suggested” (wink, wink). They will get this because if Chrysler is liquidated, everything is sold and the bondholders get paid first- everyone else would get zilch. Screw Obama, his shiny new little car company still has to abide by contractual law- this isn’t Venezuela- yet.
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The investors agreed to 50% but Obama was demanding 29% so try 29 cents on the dollar
Posted by: Holly | May 4, 2009, 2:36 am 2:36 am
a little national support would go a long way here… Americans buying imported cars should consider supporting their country and it’s products. The vast majority of Koreans, Japanese, Germans drive and buy cars produced in their own countries.. only in America do you see so many imported cars on the road. Self centered Americans with no concern for their country’s future are mostly to blame. .
Posted by: mike | May 4, 2009, 2:46 am 2:46 am
Are you kidding me? There’s no one on the so-called Auto Task Force with any auto industry experience! It goes downhill from there.
Time to have Congressional Hearings on: 1. Heavy-handed (failed) dealings with Chrysler bondholders (who did not waiver! Bravo!); 2. Hearings on Bank of America charges they were forced to acquire Merrill under “quiet” orders from then Treas. Sec. Paulsen.
Posted by: Andrew Gross | May 4, 2009, 2:46 am 2:46 am
Reading these posts makes me realize how many communists have backed this Obama dictatorship.
We have no King but God and Obama is not him. He was elected to serve not to dictate.
I think it’s time that Mr. Obama understand our constitutional form of government and our representatives reigned him in.
Time for us tax payers to call our representatives or put in new ones.
Time for a third party.
Posted by: wes | May 4, 2009, 2:48 am 2:48 am
BTW does anyone know who the Bankruptcy judge is? That will make a huge difference. If s/he is an activist judge, the rule of law may be in big trouble, thereby threatening the fabric of this country.
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Arthur Gonzalez of NY. He’s the judge that handled Enron’s chapter 11.
Posted by: Joe | May 4, 2009, 2:48 am 2:48 am
What part of voting for a Marxist and voting for a guy who’s major purpose in life is redistribution of everybody’s wealth but his own didn’t you understand?…get the book Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky and read it…that’s who Obama is..he tutored under this guy..
Posted by: klg1956 | May 4, 2009, 2:52 am 2:52 am
screw GM, Chrysler and Obama..i just bought a lexis…..
Posted by: DennisF | May 4, 2009, 3:00 am 3:00 am
OK, but can anyone make a reliable estimate of what they would get in court? Would it be as much or significantly more than about 30 cents/dollar? Some of these people are trying to portray this as highway robbery.
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It’s viewed as highway robbery because Obama is trying to strongarm away the 1st position rights of the hedgefund groups. Obama’s first 100 days has shown that he doesn’t much like to honor contracts…The bankruptcy proceeding will determine how much they will get, but that amount has to be agreed to by the creditors (including the hedgefund guys) or the court is supposed to force them into Chapter 7 liquidation. In a liquidation, the estimate is that the hedgefund guys would get $0.60 cents on the dollar. That would, of course, completely destroy Chrysler and it won’t happen. My prediction is that Obama gives in, gets Geithner to print up a few billion dollars on the old printing press, and pays these guys the $0.50 they’re asking for. Meanwhile the citizens will be clueless and unaware as they watch American Idol and Oprah…..
Posted by: Joe | May 4, 2009, 3:05 am 3:05 am
a little national support would go a long way here…
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I used to agree with you, but I refuse to ever buy a car from Obama Auto…after seeing this spectacle right out of Animal Farm, my greatest hope is the complete downfall of the UAW and this Obama experiment in South American business dealing.
Posted by: Joe | May 4, 2009, 3:12 am 3:12 am
Mr. Tapper,
I urge you to stay on this story and act as your colleagues seem unable to–as an excellent, authentic journalist. I urge you to reveal how you are now being treated at the White House. If you’re being shut out of meetings, unable to discover information previously available to you, unable to ask questions–please let us know that, too.
“There is no evidence” means “it happened but no one can prove it”.
I have a feeling this is going to be historic. It will either slow down the pace of this administration, finally diluting the “hope and change”, or it will derail it.
Posted by: Noitall | May 4, 2009, 3:19 am 3:19 am
its very easy to see its been happening all along
chicago attack politics
remember these
1.sarah palin atacked unfairly people still think she said she could see russia from her house.
remember the clothes thing, mrs obama bought 500 dollar pair of shoes to give out food at a food pantry nothing said for weeks thats all we heard about sarah. who didnt even buy the clothes.
remember trooper gate for two weeks all they talked about that she was found guilty then when a independent nonpartison panel in alaska looked at it, she was cleared of it did you hear a word of it?nope
2 joe the plumber he asks a question and they look into his tax records ,his child support,and his plumbers license,and voting record
3 rush limbaugh he said if it means obama takes us to socialism then he wanted him to fail same as saying if he wanted to turn communist wouldnt you want that agenda to fail i would
4 he spends 475,000 dollars to keep his birth certificate secret any one in the media question it?
5 anytime someone stands against him their a racist even bill clinton
6 cheney voices his opinion on what dems call torture, after saying no to procecuting bush people, then the next day guess what he changes his mind even hillary is sent out to atack him
7 how many times has the word hannity come out of obamas mouth and his thugs?
8 the tea partys he says he wasnt even aware of them REALLY NOW
9 fox is the most watched in cable news wasnt even allowed to ask a question in the last two press conferences, do you think the others in the media takes note and says we better not ask hard questions or we will get the same treatment?
10 remember him firing the guy who ran gm?
strong arm enuff for you there lots more too
Posted by: i_dream_of_a_jeannie | May 4, 2009, 3:22 am 3:22 am
Hey, stop blaming Obama. He is the greatest man who was ever born and I and many other people are in love with him. Change is here. Get over it stupid wingnut rednecks.
Posted by: William Warner | May 4, 2009, 3:45 am 3:45 am
Let’s not forget, Obama fired the CEO of GM a couple or three weeks ago. The AIG excutives and their families where destroyed by him. The Bank Of America was forced to take Merrill Lynch and then forced to take TARP funds. What about the other banks that never wanted money being refused to give the money back? Whats going on here? The media cannot ignore this crap any longer! What upsets me is this story is only on a blog.
Come on Jake! Put this story on the front page where it belongs. Let the American people decide!
Posted by: Holly | May 4, 2009, 3:53 am 3:53 am
JJGH:
“Obama hypocritically talked about “making sacrifices.” What about his wife’s $500 Lanvin sneakers”
JJGH, the sacrifices do not apply to Obama or his tax cheating buddies.
Posted by: Mauricio Villablanca | May 4, 2009, 3:54 am 3:54 am
“TARP” (the “bailouts”), foreign aid, cap and trade (just to name a few) are all ILLEGAL under the Constitution of the United States of America. Conclusion: it doesn’t matter who’s president or where they’re born. We ARE, and have for a long time, been living in a lawless place where “education” serves the purpose of disconnecting The People with their Constitution. Do you know who the Puppeteers are?
Posted by: Carol | May 4, 2009, 3:55 am 3:55 am
I too and my family were threatened several times. My crime is I was researching the citizenship problems of Obama and McCain. I’m afraid to say any more here. The facts are all over the place now anyway. Educate yourself. These facts may be the biggest “open secrets” of all time.
Posted by: Grant | May 4, 2009, 4:18 am 4:18 am
all collectivization requires brute force. Americans wanted totalitarian socialist change. they voted for it. they got it. the brain and wealth drain begins. this expat closed his company and said. bye bye. you all can keep the place your have ruined, i do not need it anymore.
Posted by: gcblues | May 4, 2009, 4:57 am 4:57 am
I’m outraged, but not surprised in the least. Keep up the good work Mr. Tapper. You’ll soon be as despised by the admin as O’Reilly and the rest of Fox News.
Posted by: TrickyPapa | May 4, 2009, 5:10 am 5:10 am
keep up the dictator action, BOzo, the more you do it, along with all the liberal actions of your democrat buddies and the LIBERAL VITRIOL AND HATE of your fans – the sooner the Real Americans will dump you on your kiester.
enjoy liberals — it wont last forever and you know – that is why you liberals are still so angry – you know that all you won was a little time with your lies and fraud and nothing more.
Posted by: Jack Kennedy | May 4, 2009, 5:22 am 5:22 am
The Miami area-based attorney describes himself as an independent, and says after waiting in line for six hours last November he ended up not voting in the presidential election. He donated $10,000 to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee in 2008 and $1,000 to then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, in 2006.So they are going after the attorney too? Well, get out the popcorn folks, this is just the warm up act. Enjoy watching the unions make eco-unsafe cars that don’t sell. IMHO buy Ford stock because they are going to make the cars American’s want and will purchase. There are not enough liberal lame brains to keep FED-UP (federal & union partnership) in the eco-car business at a sustained profit. ;o)
Posted by: amazingrace | May 4, 2009, 5:54 am 5:54 am
I am so sorry I voted for this guy either. What the heck was I thinking. The media sure won’t expose this adminstrations incompetence so I hope, despite the heat and pressure, that the Republicans can minimize the damage until 2010.
Now I see why Hillary took the SOS job. She wanted to be as far away from this as possisble.
Posted by: dale | May 4, 2009, 5:58 am 5:58 am
The short road to the Hugo Obama’s USSA.
Posted by: HarryB | May 4, 2009, 6:21 am 6:21 am
Nice reporting Jake Tapper & ABC, please keep us updated on this. I’m trying to keep an open mind, but at this point, I’m starting to see a pattern developing with this administration.
Posted by: American Issued | May 4, 2009, 6:26 am 6:26 am
“The charge is completely untrue,” said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, “and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”
Doesn’t this sound like a rather weak denial? If the charge was completely unthinkable (the white house having the capacity & willingness to use the MSM to attack its targets), it should be described as such, rather than merely “untrue” and having “no evidence”.
Posted by: fche | May 4, 2009, 6:27 am 6:27 am
Why would this surprise anyone? Obama is a power mad and has no financial sense whatsoever. He handed Chrysler to the UAW on a silver platter, and intends to bankrupt every bank and fiancial firm out there. Obama is either ignorant of the fact, or is ignoring the fact that Mutual Funds are owned by ordinary middle class people. Anybody who has other than government retirement funds in a 401K, IRA, or profit sharing plan IS invested in the market. Obama’s intent to put these firms out of business and screw the stockholders – Middle Class American Citizens who have worked hard all their lives, saved for retirement, paid our bills on time, etc. Obama is the worst threat this country has ever seen, Al Quadea pales by comparison.
Posted by: darroby85 | May 4, 2009, 6:39 am 6:39 am
A President brought up by Chicago thugs and tutored by anti-Americans (including his wife). Does anyone really think that this is untrue? If this is whats on the surface, what does the base of this iceberg look like? 2010 can’t come quickly enough.
Posted by: capnjack | May 4, 2009, 6:46 am 6:46 am
Are we to be surprised? Of course this former “community organizer” (i.e. street thug) bullies corporations, liberty-loving people, free thinkers, gun owners, Christians, and others. This is just the start of his socialist-fascist regime. Once he replaces the courts with like minded law-bots, America will be no more. Surpression of the truth will continue unfettered, through stories like this one, which support the administration’s claim without looking deeply into what really did happen! ABC has become a mouthpiece of the dictator.
Posted by: Gnarly Fnurn | May 4, 2009, 6:47 am 6:47 am
The press corps aka….
the ‘Ministry of Progaganda?’
Boycott the network advertisers..!
Posted by: gram | May 4, 2009, 6:48 am 6:48 am
“Who on earth has unleashed this uneducated idiot upon our country?”
The victims of the previous imbecile that ruled America, the opponents of those who brought about eight years of corruption, stagnancy, war and deception.
Ironic, isn’t it? Almost poetic that the Republicans are now having fits because they feel unjustly ruled by a dictator that isn’t one of their own making – because therein lies that dire truth: you were all quite content to be dominated by that political joke George Bush – a man who had to be manipulated else he would have single-handedly brought ruin to America far more swiftly – simply because he was a Republican tyrant, not a Liberal one.
And so the wheel turns. It’s just a shame neither side can step back and see the situation for what it is. You’re all too embedded in party politics, in the idea that it’s more important to support a side than to be a proponent of ideals that benefit your country, and until you can change that, you will suffer indignity and outrage. Deservedly so.
Posted by: OJ | May 4, 2009, 6:49 am 6:49 am
Wow…
We have gone from Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals,” to Joseph Goebbels gameplan and tactics.
How much longer will the worthless media cover for him? You have to wonder how much money George Soros has paid – under the table – to the media people covering for Obama.
The fix is in, the people are brainwashed and the Obama administration is turning out JUST AS EVERYONE ON THE RIGHT SAID HE WAS GOING TO! None of the liberals I work with will debate me any longer. NONE of them are paying attention to politics anymore. They refuse to see the evil being perpetrated. Shame on the left. Shame on the Democrats. It’s pretty said that the party has been taken over by anti-American nutjobs, AGAIN!
Posted by: DurwoodMcMac | May 4, 2009, 6:53 am 6:53 am
Wow…
We have gone from Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals,” to Joseph Goebbels gameplan and tactics.
How much longer will the worthless media cover for him? You have to wonder how much money George Soros has paid – under the table – to the media people covering for Obama.
The fix is in, the people are brainwashed and the Obama administration is turning out JUST AS EVERYONE ON THE RIGHT SAID HE WAS GOING TO! None of the liberals I work with will debate me any longer. NONE of them are paying attention to politics anymore. They refuse to see the evil being perpetrated. Shame on the left. Shame on the Democrats. It’s pretty said that the party has been taken over by anti-American nutjobs, AGAIN!
Posted by: DurwoodMcMac | May 4, 2009, 6:54 am 6:54 am
ABC News gets Drudged once again!
Posted by: ricmarc | May 4, 2009, 6:54 am 6:54 am
Thank you Jake Tapper. You have, in my opinion, moved ABC a significant amount away from the leftist leaning mass media and closer to the reporting that America has been denied for the last 2 years. You have earned my respect and admiration. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: capnjack | May 4, 2009, 6:56 am 6:56 am
OJ,
Wrong. We stayed away from the voting booth in 2006 and 2008 – upset with the overspending Bush. Of course, this handed the Dems the last two elections, nonetheless we put country before party. Now it is your turn and we are waiting. We’ll see in 2010 and 2012 if the Democrat vote is country first or party first. I’m not holding my breath.
Obama’s voters don’t seem to interested in ANY truth regarding him or his insane admininstration.
Posted by: DurwoodMcMac | May 4, 2009, 6:58 am 6:58 am
George Soros’s slimy hands are all over this and too damn much of the politics affecting this great country. How protected can this man be from a solution?
Posted by: capnjack | May 4, 2009, 7:03 am 7:03 am
These are sophisticated hedge funds holding hundreds of millions of dollars on behalf of poor little college funds, pensions funds etc. in “supposedly safe first lien debt” of Chrysler. All true. And when the debt – publicly traded – went down to 90 cents on the dollar, then 80, then 70 and so on over the course of years these funds couldn’t get out and trade it? Of course they could. And they did. Indeed, they had sophisticated ibankers calculating trades on exactly this bases. This is a farce.
Posted by: anon | May 4, 2009, 7:08 am 7:08 am
Barack Obama is the Michael Corleone of Washington DC. While he was busy in the regal ceremony reciting the Oath of Office with his right hand on Lincoln’s Bible, behind the scenes his cadre’ of capos were scrambling around preparing to do his bidding and carry through with his orders, expediently and severely with his full knowledge and approval and exactly as he planned.
Posted by: jeannieology | May 4, 2009, 7:11 am 7:11 am
Obama and Israel have taken America to the edge of hell. The prospective confluence of hyperinflation, insolvency, mass unemployment and mysterious pandemics with an Israeli instigated new war is the real shock and awe that will bring dictatorship to the streets of America.
Posted by: Matt | May 4, 2009, 7:11 am 7:11 am
Why is no one reading between the lines?
Quote: “President Obama also said of Lauria’s clients, “I don’t stand with them……I don’t stand with those who held out when everybody else is making sacrifices.”
End Quote
They Made the Sacrifices by Lending Chrysler the Money!! Why should they be forced to take 29cents on the Dollar because the Company is failing? What the hell is wrong with you people?
Let the company FAIL, there will always be someone to pick up the pieces. The shame of it is, the Union Employees only know how to put on lug nuts and wheels and get overpaid to do it. Let the Company FAIL.
Posted by: Abe | May 4, 2009, 7:12 am 7:12 am
DurwoodMcMac,
Clearly not enough of you stayed away to make any real difference, else Bush would have been ousted. Instead, he continued to be supported by his cult of followers, and while this dwindled over time, it never truly dissolved until the last years of his rule. And by then, when the veil finally fell from the eyes of the remnant, it was all too late.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think the Democrats are heroes or much better, in fact I find both parties to be distinctly unfit. I just find it amusing, and rather fitting, how we’re now seeing Republicans decrying the Democrats in ways all-too similar to when it was they who were in power. There will of course be those who disagree, those who do put the country before the party, but yet again I doubt it will be enough to make a difference. This time, though, the full force of Republicanism may just be what sways the future.
We shall see.
Posted by: OJ | May 4, 2009, 7:12 am 7:12 am
looks like tapper has seen the emperor has no clothes. first the brush off and belittling by gibbs in the press conference when asked about the miniscule “cuts” the president asked his cabinet to make in the budget (equivalent to a family making $120k cutting out ONE CUP OF COFFEE FROM THEIR YEARLY BUDGET).
hoping others in the media soon see this chicago thug and his cronies for who they really are.
Posted by: ddlbb | May 4, 2009, 7:14 am 7:14 am
The statement “…there’s obviously no evidence…”, sends up a red flag. Sounds like the Obama secret police made sure of that. What a stupid thing to say. That is one of the strongest clues to suggest that there could be evidence but he knows there is not.
Posted by: Georgia mom | May 4, 2009, 7:14 am 7:14 am
@David. Completely wrong. These investment firms are looking after their clients and their interests. Why should they accept 29 cents on the dollar when they are Secured Creditors and are in line to recoup the majority of their investment when Chrysler’s assets are liquidated? Why should these firms care one bit about Chrysler’s employees when poor business decisions (which include accepting the legacy costs and lucrative pension plans of the unions) got Chrysler into trouble to begin with. If the union wants to maintain the pension after a Chrysler (or GM) bankruptcy, then I say the unions can pick up the cost.
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 7:16 am 7:16 am
Obama is a snake oil salesman with a socialist agenda that includes Michelle wearing 500.00 tennis shoes and 400.00 lobster dinners. Sure we have crooks in business and we also have crooks in politics, when we find them we weed them out. However when you have a socialist in power you have little chance of weeding him/her out. Viva la Castro, Chavez. Stalin, etc etc, They live high off the hog while the rest pay the bill.
Posted by: GREYFOX | May 4, 2009, 7:22 am 7:22 am
The Obama administration is bankrupting America and worse, slowly but surely gaining control of the financial sector and other industries. The above story is a good example of how the Obama administration operates. On a side note, has anyone noticed the Orwellian double-speak being used by the Obama administration and their far-left allies? Trillions of dollars in government-debt spending is now called “investments.” Then there is global warming – an example of science being hijacked by politics so liberal politicians can impose more taxes on all Americas – now being labled “climate change.” It’s not 2009, it’s more like 1984. Scary.
Posted by: Patrick | May 4, 2009, 7:25 am 7:25 am
Jake Trapper is by far the most objective journalist in the main stream media. He may be a liberal but he doesn’t let it get in the way of his reporting. I am so pleased to see somebody in the msm who isn’t so in rapture of Obama that they will not report the truth.
Posted by: rjr | May 4, 2009, 7:34 am 7:34 am
Sit back and relax conservative minded thinkers. In a few short months America will NEVER, EVER vote for a DEMOCRAT for 50 years… Let them screw it up real good.. same think happened with Carter. Within 8 months he was hated after he ruined the economy and embarrassed us abroad. Be cool.. and wait!!!
Posted by: becool | May 4, 2009, 7:35 am 7:35 am
I would suggest that anyone doing business with these crooks protect themselves. Wear a wire.
Posted by: khandoor | May 4, 2009, 7:37 am 7:37 am
“There’s absolutely no proof that any of this happened”. Yeah. Sounds like a ‘Spokesperson’, to me. But, then again, after Joe Biden said what HE said, we were told by White House “Spokepeople” that “What he ‘MEANT’ to say, was the complete opposite”. Let’s see. Who’s got more credabiliity on this one? The person THREATENING? Or the guy BEING threatened? Remember, this is the bunch that said, they had ‘NO IDEA’ that Air Force One was barnstorming New York. And they work for the guy who said he was gonna take Public Financing for his campaign, and then, when he went back on his word, tried to tell us that he was STILL all for that kinda thing, except, not this time, because HE had the most money. And there wouldn’t be any more EARMARKS. Starting……….Now. Get your Orwell books out, and start reading. Or, you can just watch it, as it plays out, right before your eyes, on the television.
Posted by: Timothy L. Pennell | May 4, 2009, 7:38 am 7:38 am
Hope and change, Yes we can. Does President Barack Obama = WW3? Are you ready?
Posted by: Deborah Gold | May 4, 2009, 7:41 am 7:41 am
I believe this story and I think Americans should be worried. Obama is turning out worse than Bush. Can you imagine if the Bush administration would have done something like this. Obama’s administration keeps doing strange and threatening things, like Napalitano’s report about conservatives and military. Look at the fly over of the president’s plane over Manhattan, Wall Street to be exact. They knew people would freak but they still did the fly over. Did they think it would be funny to see people who work on Wall St. running out the buildings? More proof of how insentive and arrogant they really seem to be at the WH.
Posted by: Ylem | May 4, 2009, 7:41 am 7:41 am
Sounds like they, at least think they have the press corp on a leash. I’ve seen little to make me think otherwise. If this story is, in fact, true THAT should be the real story to come out of this.
Posted by: theDuck6 | May 4, 2009, 7:42 am 7:42 am
Nice. The lap dogs of the press will destroy a law abiding firm at the request of the WH. Change indeed!
Posted by: stop2think | May 4, 2009, 7:55 am 7:55 am
Of course the Obama people threatened the fund managers!
This is what Marxists do when they are in the process of taking over a political system and country.
Why would the attorney lie about what he had been told by his clients?
You who are in denial about what Obama is about and what he and his henchmen have been doing need to wake up. Starting with his Excutive orders he has been on a headlong rush deeper and deeper into the Socialist/Marxist abyss and if the voters do not change direction in 2010 we will see a violent revolution in the future.
Posted by: Jeff Scott | May 4, 2009, 8:01 am 8:01 am
“its very easy to see its been happening all along
chicago attack politics
remember these
1.sarah palin atacked unfairly people still think she said she could see russia from her house.
remember the clothes thing, mrs obama bought 500 dollar pair of shoes to give out food at a food pantry nothing said for weeks thats all we heard about sarah. who didnt even buy the clothes.
remember trooper gate for two weeks all they talked about that she was found guilty then when a independent nonpartison panel in alaska looked at it, she was cleared of it did you hear a word of it?nope
2 joe the plumber he asks a question and they look into his tax records ,his child support,and his plumbers license,and voting record
3 rush limbaugh he said if it means obama takes us to socialism then he wanted him to fail same as saying if he wanted to turn communist wouldnt you want that agenda to fail i would
4 he spends 475,000 dollars to keep his birth certificate secret any one in the media question it?
5 anytime someone stands against him their a racist even bill clinton
6 cheney voices his opinion on what dems call torture, after saying no to procecuting bush people, then the next day guess what he changes his mind even hillary is sent out to atack him
7 how many times has the word hannity come out of obamas mouth and his thugs?
8 the tea partys he says he wasnt even aware of them REALLY NOW
9 fox is the most watched in cable news wasnt even allowed to ask a question in the last two press conferences, do you think the others in the media takes note and says we better not ask hard questions or we will get the same treatment?
10 remember him firing the guy who ran gm?
strong arm enuff for you there lots more too”
DON’T FORGET THE ATTACKS ON BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON IN THE PRIMARIES. THAT’S WHERE IT ALL STARTED.
Posted by: Jenny | May 4, 2009, 8:06 am 8:06 am
Thanks for some real journalism.
Be careful Mr. Tapper. I hope you have no skeletons in your closet.
Posted by: Durhamite | May 4, 2009, 8:17 am 8:17 am
Threatened ..You better believe they are Threatened and will be destroyed in the long run..No American will by a Fiat car…no American should support this government take over. Let them fail and show Obama he can’t take over American private business, period. Obama and his puppets control the news media, we all know this, 60%of us donot watch cable news..talk radio is the only truths out there. Turn your TV’s OFF..take your kids away from the TV sets..this president will destroy their minds..Barney Franks “BoyFriend” is running Freddie Mac..Polosi husband is getting millions for his real estate business..we have gay clowns running this country and change our laws across America , going into our schools and churches telling us how we must now think and pray.
Three years and 7 months to go..Get rid of the entire congress and this teenage president with an ego to liken Hitler.
Posted by: WelovetheUSA | May 4, 2009, 8:20 am 8:20 am
HarryB said: I am so sorry I voted for this guy either. What the heck was I thinking.
Good for you, Harry. If enough people come to this same conclusion, some good will come out of all this.
Jake Tapper, you seem genuinely concerned for actual journalism, making you almost unique in the MSM. Keep up the good work.
Posted by: ConceptJunkie | May 4, 2009, 8:27 am 8:27 am
So Goldman and the others that recouped part of their Chrysler loss with TARP money are good to go. But the guy with no TARP money wants 50 cents on the dollar, and that’s too much per Obama, the financial expert.
Posted by: Colonel Klink | May 4, 2009, 8:31 am 8:31 am
Andrew Gross:
a little national support would go a long way here… Americans buying imported cars should consider supporting their country and it’s products. The vast majority of Koreans, Japanese, Germans drive and buy cars produced in their own countries.. only in America do you see so many imported cars on the road. Self centered Americans with no concern for their country’s future are mostly to blame. .
If the UAW/GM/Ford/Chrysler/Obama made a car that the wheels wouldn’t fall off of after 50k miles, I would buy one. The unions unrealistic pay and compensation demands have forced the auto industry into cutting corners on quality and design. The result is a throw-away car that must be traded in after each new model year comes out. If you don’t you run the risk of being stranded on the side of the road when the rubber band breaks! 156k on my Toyota Sienna, 175k on my Toyota pickup, my Ford Windstar needed an new motor after just 54k miles! Pathetic!
Posted by: Bob | May 4, 2009, 8:33 am 8:33 am
“I hope he FAILS!”
Posted by: Rush | May 4, 2009, 8:36 am 8:36 am
“While many stakeholders made sacrifices and worked constructively, I have to tell you some did not,” the president said. “In particular, a group of investment firms and hedge funds decided to hold out for the prospect of an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout. They were hoping that everybody else would make sacrifices, and they would have to make none.”
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Obama is a hypocrite. No one has had to make any sacrifices under his proposals except for these hedge funds. They were just asking for what he gave everyone else.
Posted by: Bubba | May 4, 2009, 8:38 am 8:38 am
WAKE UP AMERICA!!! This is but a small glimpse into what is really taking place at the White House and with the Democrat leaders in Congress. Get some backbone, standup and take our country back from these thugs who don’t love this country or anything for which it stands. This country belongs to WE THE PEOPLE, not the White House. The States created the Federal Government, not the other way around, so it’s up to the States to take their power back.
Posted by: Dianne4Dees | May 4, 2009, 8:43 am 8:43 am
Next the Obama white house will “encourage” rental car companies to buy only from the UAW owned Chyrsler and soon-to-be UAW owned GM!
In recent years, I’ve been driving GM cars, but if Obama gives GM to the UAW, I’ll soon be a proud Ford guy!
Unfortunately, the Obama-ites pay no attention to anyone but the MSM, which is Obama’s progaganda machine.
We must send a message in 2010 in the congressional elections… vote for anyone BUT a democrat!!!
Posted by: beachbum | May 4, 2009, 8:45 am 8:45 am
And what are the Chicago Hack’s faves, the UAW, gonna do when NOBODY BUYS A CHRYSLER??? MAKE US BUY THEM?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow | May 4, 2009, 8:48 am 8:48 am
So a Ford built in Mexico is an American car that I have to buy because
the Moron in Chief says so?
Posted by: Jack Sparrow | May 4, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am
This act of Thuggery does NOT sound “Preposterous “at all with this charge against Obama’s own KGB … called the ‘Task force ‘ .
Need We forget The Obama Adm. got “Four ” CEO.s ‘Fired ‘ and A 5Th. last week at Chrysler .
Who told many Banks they could not pay the money back even though the money was lent to them without those prior nasty little Written Legal Documented notifications and was made to take those funds many CEO’s have admitted were strong armed into taking that is now looked at as ”dirty “money even by their Stockholders .
98 % of all small Banks in America have not failed (the media never mentions or received any Tarp Funds )since they would not Fiance home loans to bad credit potential borrowers then or now .
Canada had “No Banks go Bankrupt or got any TARP Funds from the Canadian Govt.” last year since they didn’t fall for our own Govt. hoax on giving money for bad loans … In fact My own Bank , the Medium sized bank of Toronto has huge profits last year as did the nationwide Bank of Montreal our other bank when I ran Sealy of Canada .
Then those same American Banks were told how much CEO’s Presidents , VP.s and Executive Leaders or even high paid on commission of those Firms could earn( told that later as well without (LEGAL DOCUMENTED NOTIFICATION ) in income….. but those Union private Jet flying , owning their own private Country Club Union leaders were not .
It was the $ 77.00 hour a hour and paying Auto Workers not to work that got the Big 3 Auto Makers in trouble to start with since
5 Foreign lines of Car’s and trucks are made here in the South at $ 37.00 a hour and are doing 54 % of the Business in America with higher quality Cars and Trucks .
It was Govt. who pushed the price of gas to $ 4.37 a gallon and a $ 152.00 a barrel not allowing our own oil to be drilled ”where the damn oil in the Trillions of Barrels is buried !
Not to mention the home loans to no credit or bad credit home buyers was why the Housing market tanked effecting our entire economy .
Govt. fouled up again Our two biggest problems were created by the Federal Govt. …. then the Stock Market collapsed killing Jobs and retirement funds .Of course then Govt. borrowed Trillions shirking our dollar to the lowest level in 60 years giving America its largest debt ever by 9000 % .
To make matters far worse , The Obama Adm. told stock holders they had to take 20 % of the value of the Chrysler Stock or else ..”"Then “” HE paid back Unions for their 101 % support and gave the Union 55 % and controlling interest in Chrysler for Free .
No other President has even been this arrogantly power hungry in our History to Nationalize and Socialize this Nation.
Remember this drastic very dangerous Obama power move to having a total Socialist Nation and Economy is only one Hundred days old .
We sadly have 3 years 8 Months , 16 days, 4 hours and 51 seconds until he is booted from office and we can return to far less regulations , Govt. Control , Capitalism , free trade and most of all our Markets seek their own levels not artificially done by a pompous big Govt. raid on Co.s , our Individualism and own Personal Responsibilities in life not the Govt. chore as so stated in our own Constitution and bill of rights . I might ad verified in our own Federalist papers as well .
Posted by: ReCon USMC | May 4, 2009, 8:52 am 8:52 am
Bubba… you’re forgetting the “sacrifice” made by the private airplane companies, who Obama has or will soon put out of biz… the AIG folks who signed on to work for $1 in order to be in line for a bonus, the also received death threats… the travel industry, who Obama sacrificed when corporate and incentive travel was demonized… Corporate executives who were paid according to the market rates and now are salary and bonus capped… Who knows which industry will be picked to sacrifice next! The only industries that are safe will be the Hollywood entertainers and the MSM… no prob there… no sacrifice necessary… keep up the good work!
People… just don’t forget that once he’s finished with business he’ll be coming for us!
Posted by: beachbum | May 4, 2009, 8:53 am 8:53 am
This is fascism.
Bush was horrible and Obama is no different, and he could possibly be worse.
The corruption, greed and bezzle is systemic at this point. We need a viable 3rd party of fiscal conservatives/ social liberals.
Posted by: David | May 4, 2009, 8:55 am 8:55 am
These guys are the most corrupt bunch of thugs ever. Obama, makes Stalin look like an angle. I hate to say it, but this country has made such a big mistake the only way to change it is by force. The more we sit back and let this guy and his cast of crooks take the country from the people. The quicker we will be standing in bread lines and watching innocent people getting locked up for speaking out aginst these thugs. I give it one election cycle and if there is not a shift back to the middle then the people must do what our founding fathers set up for us in the Declaration of Independenced. That will be change we can believe in.
Posted by: We are screwed! | May 4, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am
The Polls show Obama still has a lot of folks that support him. Does this say ANYTHING about Obama’s ability? NO NO NO.
It merely points out the blind hatred the voters had for Bush, and the election of ANYONE else. And they made Obama into a Rock Star guy. He is a farce, but those that voted for him are afraid to admit it…cannot admit it…will not admit it…because it shows how stupid they were…so that is why the polls stay high for the Community Organizing fraud.
The polls represent stupid people, not competent government.
Posted by: RUFUS | May 4, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am
“The charge is completely untrue,” said White House deputy press secretary Bill Burton, “and there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
And he doesnt have any knowledge who flew that plane over New Your for a photo op either.. ROFL..
Posted by: ChicagBob | May 4, 2009, 9:09 am 9:09 am
Good work, Jake. I join the others in hoping you hang on to your job.
The whole union thing is very clever–I completely disagree with it of course. But these guys are out to unionize everything that matters. And they will do it by attaching strings to whatever they can. ONly union contractors can work on “stimulus” funded projects, for example. When healthcare is nationalized, do you think only unionize facilities will be eligible to participate? Card check–SEIU–etc. The goal clearly is to have everyone either in a union, on a govt payroll, on a govt dole, paying no taxes, voting as a block so 5% of the population pay the way for the other 95%.
Posted by: JimJinNJ | May 4, 2009, 9:13 am 9:13 am
CHANGE! Wow! They didn’t mention anything during the campaign about the brass-knuckles!
Posted by: SirTennyson | May 4, 2009, 9:13 am 9:13 am
Ylem | May 4, 2009 7:41:32 AM
“Worse than Bush?” Wow, when did you discover that? I never once doubted GWB’s loyalty to the United States. I do believe that Barry is an enemy of this country, and for some perverse reason, he would like to see it fail. The surest way for it to fail is to establish an economy just like all the third-world countries on earth. And do it by bullying people into “going along”.
Posted by: William | May 4, 2009, 9:14 am 9:14 am
Who is John Galt?
Posted by: Archimedes | May 4, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am
Blind hatred of Bush — not so blind. It was earned
Clinton — 8 years of peace, prosperity and jobs.
Obama — right, be pissed off at him for spending too much money to overhaul the engine that Bush drove into the ground.
The supply-side solution — give the rich guys ALL of the money. They’ll make sure it finds its way into the right hands. We’ve seen it work.
Posted by: washburn1919 | May 4, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am
I and others warned you guys about Obama. My goodness, we posted and posted our hearts out right here on this site. We implored you not to vote for him and to take a cold, hard look at hs history.
Any of you who are Democrats and have representation in the Congress, please (I’m in Mass. and have no one to help) ask your representtatievs in Congress to hold hearings and put some heat on Obama.
If you’re really angry, pleae do something.
Posted by: tanarg | May 4, 2009, 9:24 am 9:24 am
The only thing transparent about this President is that he’s nothing but a snake charmer and he’s beginning to lose his charm. His whole staff consists of people that he himself said were the root of our Country’s problem(Washington). Well; he picked them.”No one is above the law”, unless you’re one of the many tax frauds appointed by him. No-one in his White-house has the ability to speak and actually mean what they say, they all get the “Gibbs translation”. Unions are getting their payback and everyone will “believe” that the hedge fund was threatened.
Posted by: Lisa Hartke | May 4, 2009, 9:33 am 9:33 am
I am just simply amazed that a Mainstream Media outlet is confronting Obama. This is just the tip of the big melting iceberg of America as we knew it. Gone are the glory days.
Just look at Isreal, they are not waiting for America to take care of Iran. Isreal is taking matters into their own hands. As they should.
Posted by: ROFLMAO | May 4, 2009, 9:34 am 9:34 am
“obviously no evidence”
*****************
Well, there ya go.
Posted by: Ignatz Horowitz | May 4, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am
HAND’S GETTING A LITTLE DIRTY, BARRY O?
Posted by: Marty | May 4, 2009, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Just another Chicago thug – how true!
Being an American just does not feel the same since BHO came on the scene.
He is determined to change the meaning of the words “land of the free – home of the brave” – true, many of us did ask why, why an inexperienced, untested person with so many strange alliances could even become a candidate for POTUS.
Posted by: RAltiere | May 4, 2009, 9:44 am 9:44 am
So, the Chicago crowd is the reincarnation of Al Capone. I guess that makes Rahm, Frank Nitti.
Calling on Elliot Ness.
Posted by: zumwalt | May 4, 2009, 9:44 am 9:44 am
While I’m not sure if I back what the white house is doing with chrystler it is interesting how they are so confident that the white house press corps is willing to carry their water.
I guess being asked what “enchants” you about being in the whitehouse kind of makes that obvious though
Posted by: j | May 4, 2009, 9:44 am 9:44 am
Just another Chicago thug – how true!
Being an American just does not feel the same since BHO came on the scene.
He is determined to change the meaning of the words “land of the free – home of the brave” – true, many of us did ask why, why an inexperienced, untested person with so many strange alliances could even become a candidate for POTUS.
Posted by: RAltiere | May 4, 2009, 9:45 am 9:45 am
What do you expect from a “community organizer”? That’s the way they operate.
Posted by: Dan F | May 4, 2009, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Wow. An independent/democratic lawyer claiming that Obama admin bullied them. I am inclined to think this is true. If it is, this admin is insane with control…..wow is all I can say, and Lord help us.
Posted by: vernon | May 4, 2009, 9:48 am 9:48 am
There are certain individuals that take arrogance as a right. They are born bullies. Some of them don’t have the size, others the chutzpah, but is our duty to inspect which class they belong to and cut our business with them.
Steven Rattner is a sample.
Obama is surrounded by bullies.
I’m wondering whether its contagious.
Obama just pardoned the Rosen/Weissman/Harman espionage for Israel case (which had been exhaustively sabotaged by preivous AG Mukasey’s legal actions btw) showing Obama’s siding with bullyism personified by the impunity of the AIPAC posee (and I remember clearly when Obama “promised” his government was going to honor ACCOUNTABILITY above all! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!) (Who tells you, we may have a Lieberman in Obama, turning poisonous as fast as he can)
Posted by: Viejo Vizcacha | May 4, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am
I can’t believe that people are surprised by this bullying. This is how Obama made his living before be elected president. This guy hates America and capitalism. He is a disciple of Saul Alinsky and his agenda is to remake American as a socialist state. The ends justify the means.
Posted by: Oldsurfer | May 4, 2009, 9:53 am 9:53 am
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson
Posted by: pasokid | May 4, 2009, 9:54 am 9:54 am
Based on what people have told me about Rattner, bullying is his standard mode of operation.
It will be interesting to
see whether Wasserstein will be protected by Rahm, to whom it paid
$16 Million despite his lack of any prior investment banking and finance background.
Posted by: Midwestern Guy | May 4, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am
So wait. The argument against Obama’s bank plan is that it gives to much to Wall Street when these firms should just be allowed to fail or go into bankruptcy. The Obama administration decides that Chrysler needs to enter bankruptcy and pushes back against the Wall Street fat cats – we don’t even know if this is true, it’s a claim made by one guy who is probably angry because his bonus will be smaller this year – looking for a government handout (in bankruptcy, creditors are lucky to get back anything) and it’s proof that he’s a socialist, hellbent on destroying the nation? I guess this logic is to be expected from the Drudge lemmings.
And I just love how the blue collar folks y’all put forward as “real Americans” are suddenly lazy do-nothings if they are members of a union.
The intellectual weakness and inconsistitencies – and nutiness (socialism, fascism, Alinsky, birth certificates, etc, etc, etc) – of your arguments is why the GOP is destined for years in the wilderness unless they – and you – change their ways.
Posted by: OGLiberal | May 4, 2009, 9:55 am 9:55 am
Errata:
There are certain individuals that take arrogance as a right. They are born bullies. Some of them don’t have the size, others the chutzpah, but give them the slight opportunity and they chomp up like alligators; is our duty to inspect which class they belong to and cut our business with them all.
Steven Rattner is a sample.
Posted by: Viejo Vizcacha | May 4, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Does anyone really believe this story isn’t true? Hand over the presidency and both houses of congress and that absolute power corrupts….
Posted by: go_figure | May 4, 2009, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Change you can believe in?
Obama is a thug.
yep.
Posted by: Samuel Adams | May 4, 2009, 10:11 am 10:11 am
When you are as big as the government, merely being in the room can constitute unconscionable intimidation if you are there to support the Rule of Law being thrown out the window.
The Government will never leave things be decided upon the merits of the situation. Soon there will be pressures to plead “special cases” as to which dealerships, which plants will be closed. And it will be done behind closed doors.
Once the Rule Book is out the window, might becomes right. The President is choosing to place the prestige of his office with might, and not right.
Posted by: Paul Whitman | May 4, 2009, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Viejo Viz, the guy making the accusation gave $10,000 to the demcrats and $1000 to Hillary, yet you want to denigrate Republicans.
Posted by: Jayne | May 4, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Remember is not what he says Its HOW he says it that
made the non-thinkers love him
Posted by: gracy k | May 4, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am
media matters.org tells a vastly different story
Posted by: dewalt69 | May 4, 2009, 10:24 am 10:24 am
“The White House would use the White House press corps to destroy its reputation….”
Is the media part of the Obama administration? Answer: yes.
And Media Matters is a far-left group that wouldn’t know the truth if it hit it in the head.
Posted by: keninsb | May 4, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
The fact that Obama so easily lumps senior secured creditors with other non-secured lenders shows he is either an ignorant fool or a communist. News flash to all ignorant fools and communists: The law states that senior secured creditors become whole before union thugs get a nickel. Dismantle this law, send your thugs to pressure the bankruptcy judge, and you effectively negatively impact, and thus raise the cost of capital to firms. I think you already know this and thus you are a menace.
Posted by: steve s | May 4, 2009, 10:40 am 10:40 am
The only people surprised by this are the silly and naive Obamabots. Anybody with half a brain knows that true “reformers” don’t come out of Chicago politics. It’s all hard ball stuff. Obama is no different than Mayor Daley….he just reads a teleprompter better. Fools.
Posted by: Ajax | May 4, 2009, 10:41 am 10:41 am
The majority of these posts show a clear lack of intelligence.
Just goes to show why the republican party has gone to the dogs.
Anyone that hangs on every word limbaugh or hannity says is clearly not playing with a full deck. These guys are hate-mongers.
Posted by: sycamore | May 4, 2009, 10:42 am 10:42 am
“Viejo Viz, the guy making the accusation gave $10,000 to the demcrats and $1000 to Hillary, yet you want to denigrate Republicans.’
well, then….. has to be true and accurate, as we know no body would give a donation to both political parties to score points and stay in the the good graces of both sides….
Posted by: observist | May 4, 2009, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Obama, as usual, speaks with forked tongue!
Posted by: Porter House | May 4, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
all the right wingers here seem to know everything but they’re not smart enough to have gotten their folks re-elected,,,,
but then again when you have such fine people like Palin & Joe the Plumber representing you, and no policies to offer except hate for most of America, it’s no surprise you had your butts handed to you.
Posted by: truth be told | May 4, 2009, 10:47 am 10:47 am
Obama and his Chicago thugs despise our capitalistic system and are doing everything possible to destroy it. Obama’s socialistic methods are destroying the Americam auto manufacturers. The Chrysler factories in America are all going to permanently shut down.
Posted by: DennyB | May 4, 2009, 10:48 am 10:48 am
‘The Chrysler factories in America are all going to permanently shut down.’
Posted by: DennyB
who cares?
it’s just capitalism working right? just let everything fail……survival of the fittest.. right….
what are you complaining about?
- if millions end up in the street starving.. big deal..
as long as capitalism has free reign….
Posted by: truth be told | May 4, 2009, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Well it is freaking about time that one of the mainstream media outlets have the courage to print or say anything negative about “the obamessiah”. PLEASE ABC NEWS…keep it up. If you (the collective media) don’t keep this White House honest — NO ONE WILL. So many investigations can be done. Campaign finance, Associations, Criminal Activites before campaign, why we can’t see his College Records. C’mon, any takers there at ABC???
Posted by: Lori Frank | May 4, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Lauria: You reap (politically)what you sow. This is the political philosophy you supported. Now live with it.
Posted by: bushie | May 4, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Jake, thank you for going beyond the smoke and mirrors of the Obama administration and giving us the hard truth! Looking forward to many more of your excellent reports.
Regarding the post about Media Matters, they are biased in their reports and do not present the actual news. In other words, they do what they accuse others of doing when presenting the news.
Posted by: grannysunni | May 4, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am
I am DONE buying any product made by the UAW. I am sick of their politics.
Posted by: Gldhouston | May 4, 2009, 11:00 am 11:00 am
Obama has repeatedly said that we are a Nation of Laws. Our laws are based on our constitution, of which this Administration repeatedly ignored and habitually tried to circumvent. What happens when we all wake up and see that this guy has dual citizenship and this entire Administration is nothing but a fraud, impeachment, I doubt it? If the records indicate that he received student loans and grants as a foreign student isn’t that defrauding taxpayers in itself? America needs to quit fighting amongst ourselves, Big govenment has regulated us out of industry, given our jobs and social services away to Mexico and now we buy our widgets from China which has zero environmental regulations, how does that solve anything. It is all a big pile of bull propaganda for those with their hands out! Wake up!
Posted by: Hugh | May 4, 2009, 11:05 am 11:05 am
The President DOES NOT CARE. If the president cared about the people of this country, we would be fine. He cares about everyone that is not an American YET…..
Leaving those who do care to twiddle their thumbs and ponder the thought of how so many people vote for Hitler..
Posted by: LP | May 4, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am
This is what happens when government gets to big. It gathers momentum until politicians are doing things they never imagined. Government is choosing the winners and loosers, not the actual consumers/investors/companies in the market place. Our Constitution doesn’t allow gov’t to intrude like this. Very DARK DAYS are coming….
Posted by: Doug | May 4, 2009, 11:11 am 11:11 am
Ah let me see….I….ahhh….I never heard the reverend reverend make such statements in my 20 years at his church……I ahhh…..where my teleprompter?…..humm….ahhh…Chicago style politics?…..ahhhh…ummm not me! I have always been a team player….uh….until someone gets in my way of my agenda. Then we need to take the to the woodshed and destroy them….uhhh….wait a minute that was written wrong….we need uh to change that… I mean correct that….turn that writer over the White House Press Core and let them punish the non believers….I am the greatest gift the world….and you….ahhh….had better….believe that…. I am saving the unions by breaking the trust of the investors….from school teachers and librarians…..those shamefull 401K holders they have no shame…..ahhh…..daaaa…..go forth and the press core on them and destroy them in my name……ahhh….amen….I mean go in peace.
Posted by: Jim | May 4, 2009, 11:15 am 11:15 am
If this crap keeps up we are going to have the possibility of a revolt, and then at some point, camps for political prisoners. At some point Obama’s “Chicago-way” is going to snap back on critics and they will begin losing their jobs or worse. There will be no conspiracy theory’s to worry about, just power gone mad and anyone opposed will get hurt (in one way no another).
Posted by: Mr E | May 4, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Wake up America. American auto industry is going overseas without you and the UAW. IF you want to work, UAW, you have to be competitive to Korea and Japan, otherwise die. It’s your choice.
Posted by: Dennis Sealy TX | May 4, 2009, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Big gov’t and politicians are what got us into this mess. They have distorted the marketplace by their intrusions. Obama reveals how little he understands how an economy runs by his statements made in public. Imagine what he’s really thinking!! Just like birth & death are part of life for all beings, startup & bankruptcy/death are part of every business’s life cycle.
Posted by: Sam | May 4, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
Wow, the extreme repubs are out in force in these comments!
One ATTORNEY complains that the firm he represented (note past tense as he no longer does) was strong-armed, without proof and the Obama administration is definitely guilty as charged? Even though an actual spokeperson for the firm says the Obama administration did no such thing. You are taking the word of an attorney, over the word of the actual firm dealing with the negotiations.
I hope none of you is ever on a jury!
Posted by: Lydia | May 4, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am
Thug-In-Chief stuffs bondholders. So what’s new. The only question is who will be the next up for intimidation and demonization, Obama-style.
And what’s the UAW going to do to get more pay and benefits when it has made itself “management” — and sells junk? It’ll be sweet poetic justice when the union goes on strike against itself.
TParty4USA
Posted by: TParty4USA | May 4, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
Obama’s training is as a political thug (“community organizer”). This is his way of dealing with situations. You all knew this before he was elected, so why the devil would you vote for a political thug?
Posted by: Adrienne Balsley | May 4, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am
I seem to recall Barry calling the heads of a few banks into his office and giving them some strong armed advice.
And we’re not to believe that a radical leftist thug from Chicago wouldn’t populate his administration with likeminded people?
We’re supposed to believe that all Democrats have little angel wings fitted at birth, especially ones from Chicago.
LOL
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller | May 4, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
Obama is a thug, this story is probably true. I for one will never again buy an American car from an Obama held auto company.
Posted by: MikeC | May 4, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am
This is not how America became so prosperous! What fools we were to believe in Obama. He stold my vote like a snake oil salesman. Never again! We democrats are going to wake up one day and realize the pox we unleashed on our beautiful country. What have we done?!
Posted by: Sonya | May 4, 2009, 11:32 am 11:32 am
Obama says “when everybody else is making sacrifices.” What the hell kind of sacrifice has the UAW ever made? They are coming away with ownership of the company. Sacrifice? Geez. Contrast that with a Hedge Funds that are funding Chrysler debt. They already know they won’t get their investment back – it’s only a question of magnitude. Sacrifice is already assumed.
A company run by a union is going to be one very entertaining Obama experiment doomed to failure. Who would even buy a car made by a government and union owned company? You’d have to be crazy. The only thing the UAW cares about is the UAW, and to a lesser extent, what they can extort from the employer.
Posted by: Mike S | May 4, 2009, 11:33 am 11:33 am
No doubt it’s a true story. What did you sheeple think Chicago politics was all about?
Posted by: Colin R | May 4, 2009, 11:40 am 11:40 am
Thank you Jake for offering real unbiased journalism.
While MSNBC, CNN, and FOX continue to push their respective agendas; at least a few can publish objective news.
Transparency is what the public was promised with this administration; unfortunately they’ve been as opaque as any before.
The “news” has become two groups; those that fellate and those that hate the president.
Posted by: rob | May 4, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am
Chicago politics. I thought the FBI cleaned out the traditional political “gangsters” from there years ago. Guess they found enough money to at least buy off the White House. I wonder when Obama will be on “a list” from a questionalble donor…oh wait Hamas donated to him…they must not be considered questionable.
Obama spent more in a few weeks than Bush spent in 8 years. Bush was a liar for saying what everyone in congress new, and believed themselves.
Obama just lie’s…day after day after day. I guess being clueless is the progressive excuse for lying.
Posted by: DanL | May 4, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am
The media has failed us. Honest and objective reporting is dead. These outlets have become weapons of two warring factions labeling themselves as the left and the right.
Its no wonder people elected a man preaching hope.
I hope one day that our Congress puts term limits on itself. I hope one day that every person living in this country is forced to pay his or her fair share. I hope that my children will still have a country worth living in when they’re adults. I hope that we wake up as a nation and start trying to work together rather than furthering the divide.
I owe my allegiance to neither the left or the right, I owe my allegiance to this the rights and freedoms that so many of our American ancestors died fighting to protect. If more people woke up to that, and stopped labeling themselves one way or the other, we’d be able to get a little bit more done on Main Street and send a message to Washington that we aren’t going to put up with their antics. They represent us, remember? We don’t owe them anything.
Posted by: Caveman | May 4, 2009, 11:59 am 11:59 am
you elected as your president an anti-capitalist and an anti-American.
gonna be trouble..
you all have never seen a war so you have no clue, think the rest of the world is nice. watch out now.
MSM deserves to be shut down for their breach of duty to tell the truth.
Posted by: former american | May 4, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
We don’t want a Pravda type press nor a totalitarian government. Thank you Jake for doing your job when others won’t.
Posted by: Mark | May 4, 2009, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm
I believe this story has already been contradicted by people who were much closer to the action than the fellow interviewed by Beckman.
Here’s what I don’t understand. How do we allow ourselves to get distracted to such a degree that hedge fund managers, digging for an extra few cents a share, come across as non-culpable; but the UAW members, regular guys struggling to find the American dream, are made out to be evil?
Why do we keep siding with the big bucks suits and not the guys in overalls?
Posted by: skylab | May 4, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Who’s next? Didn’t have to wait long.
Now, Obama is on TV announcing that the lynch mob should go after “tax cheats” as next anti-social class — with “tax cheats” defined by Obama to include any of those who actually comply with the tax code by taking lawful deductions.
A whole new “evil” class for Obamanuts to demonize: including all those “evil” folks who make charitable deductions. They’d better look out because Obama is coming after them next, and even wants Turbo Tax Cheat Geithner to hire an army of IRS agents to stop all of their lawless behavior. A regular crime wave!
How else is Obama going to pay for his social(ist) revolution to finance the well-being of all those folks who don’t pay any taxes in the first place? And they “need” someone to pay more if they are to get more more of those “earned” income credits of their own.
It’s just a matter of fairness, right?
And cannibals have to eat, too.
TParty4USA
Posted by: TParty4USA | May 4, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
Regardless of the merits of this story, I find it dispiriting that the language of the right is now so hate-filled and borderline racist (i.e. the use of the word ‘thug’ in several posts).
I remember that there was (mostly) an element of respect in political discourse during the Reagan era, which has been ejected along with the concept of the Republican as a ‘big tent.’ Now only those prepared to quote scripture to deny equality to millions appear to be welcome.
It’s interesting that many of those hurling epithets and ridiculous insults (‘Obamabot’ isn’t even clever, and as for ‘OPravdamas’…) would consider themselves Christians.
How twisted.
Posted by: bobspice | May 4, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
LA Times both denied release of tapes showing Obama feted terrorist sympathizers, and at SAME TIME (day before election) gave written testimonial on Obama’s election website confirming he has no such ties – LA Times LIED and concealed truth to help Obama agenda!!
Posted by: disgusted | May 4, 2009, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
I don’t believe the MSM when they say B.O.’s numbers are still so high. It’s all just propaganda. When I see the american people stand up like they did at the tea parties on April 15 and like they will on July 4 to oppose what is going on in the government, and when I see the number of comments here negative towards B.O., on a MSM article no less, I KNOW the numbers in favor of B.O. are not as high as the MSM is saying. I, unlike idiot liberals, BELIEVE WHAT I SEE AND NOT WHAT I’M TOLD.
Posted by: Facism is here | May 4, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
The obamanation administration makes you long for the good old days of the mafia. At least they knew who the enemy was and punished them, not everyone else. It is NOT too soon to start impeachment proceedings!
Posted by: mrsharfer | May 4, 2009, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Bobspice writes: “Regardless of the merits of this story, I find it dispiriting that the language of the right is now so hate-filled and borderline racist (i.e. the use of the word ‘thug’ in several posts).”
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Wow, Bob you must have been on sabbatical during the last 8 years. Read the daily kos or the huffington post lately? You have not seen “hate-filled” until you go there. Remember words like “the chimp”…..”war criminal”, etc. from the left describing our then president? Even now, the left still wants to imprison him.
Posted by: socialism101 | May 4, 2009, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm
I can’t believe I voted for this man! Obama’s own quotes on this issue are shameful. Once again pitting Americans against one another. He’s going to make Bush look like a saint! We would be so much better off with Hillary!
Posted by: Joe | May 4, 2009, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm
You can either kneel down in front of this administration or they will bend you over from behind and get what they want anyway.
God help America! (if there are still enough freedom-loving people left to care)
Posted by: Reg | May 4, 2009, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
Wow—Obama doesn’t “stand with” investors! Who knew?
Posted by: Anon | May 4, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
I did not have…threats with that man….Mr. Lauria. I never asked anyone to lie about it..not one time…never.
It’s a vast (say it with me) right wing conspiracy.
Posted by: ddougies | May 4, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
I’m bored with liberals saying you’re a “hate monger” just because they disagree with what you say. Name calling is nothing more than a cover for lack of any logical thought or logical debate. If only liberals would eventually grow up and stop relying on government to take care of them and their problems.
Annoy a liberal……go to work every day and pay your own bills.
Posted by: Jeff | May 4, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Obama’s popularity numbers are high, but he not higher than Reagan. Remember, Reagan inherited a much worse economy than Obama, and he didn’t use any of these hateful tactics. He brought Americans together. This is what happens when we elect an inexperienced president. He will have us fighting one another very soon!
Posted by: Mary | May 4, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
They need to audio-record these shakedown artists.
Posted by: Chicago, DC | May 4, 2009, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm
Anyone who voted for Obama & thinks that he’s not following through with the things he preached about, well, your dead wrong. He’s doing exactly what he said he would do. He’s a Socialist that is flirting with Communism. He was elected by the liberal media for the liberal media (and GE of course). The mainstream media programmed everyone to believe Obama was about “Hope” & “Change”. Indeed he is. He’s “hoping” Americans will continue to be easily distracted with AIG, bailouts, etc while he installs government on steroids. What kind of American President would shake hands with Hugo Chavez? Someone who hopes God will distroy America. Go to Europe & announce that America is arrogant. Obama is the most anti-American president in history. What he has & continues to do is called “treason”.
Posted by: WPBRay | May 4, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
You dems deserve this guy, he’s your president….not mine! Just as Bush wasn’t yours. Gee, I wonder how many dems are unemployed now !.
Posted by: Steve | May 4, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Would Obama use the press for smear and attacks? Palin anyone?
Posted by: John | May 4, 2009, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm
Group by group this administration is taxing, burning, threatening, and disrespecting large segements of business and the population. Unless you are a criminal or 100% welfare reciepient, he will get to you and something you value and take it from you. After he offends and takes from everyone but criminals, aliens, and gladhanding welfare reciepents, he won’t have enough base to be re-elected, which will be great. Maybe the press will wake up and start showing his approval ratings heading to the tank so we can realize we have Carter II here.
Posted by: Jethro Jackson | May 4, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
Obama just keeps pulling the rug out from underneath every group he wants to take over or GIVE to his union cronies while he is still flying around on his. He will eventually crash and burn! That would be the real hope for America.
Posted by: Awkins | May 4, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Last November the American electorate voted for Chicago-style thug politics. Ta-da!
Posted by: Mark Carlton | May 4, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
I HATE OBAMA. AS FOR MICHELLE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE THAT I FEEL ASHAMED OF MY COUNTRY.
Posted by: WeMadeAmistake | May 4, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
well, im not at all surprised about any of the shenanigans going on at the white house. he said he wanted to CHANGE America,spread the wealth around. ect, ect.conservatives warned of this all through the campaign! but… who are they… here’s your change.
Posted by: ron | May 4, 2009, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
Sounds just like something Rahm Emmanuel would set up.
Don’t the president and his crew realize their war against the “evil” hedge funds affect more than the heads of those funds? What about us little people who have money invested by account manangers of our pensions and 401K plans? Many of us have no control over where our future financial security is invested as its handled by benefits managers of our companies. North Carolina doesn’t ask me where to invest the state employees’ pension fund or my 401 K.
Posted by: Fed Up | May 4, 2009, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Many of the lefty commenters honestly don’t understand, and others are standard propagandists. For the first group: in bankruptcy a secured creditor typically recovers much more than 30%. The secured creditor lent money in exchange for a “security interest” in the assets of the debtor. This is important because the secured creditor has a claim on the assets of the company that is prior to any claim of the unsecured creditors (including the UAW and most other creditors, who are called unsecured creditors).
This is not some rightwing plot, it is the way the law of bankruptcy has been for as long as we have had bankruptcy. What Obama and his people are trying to do is intimidate creditors from exercising their legal rights (and to make it sound like they are the ones doing something illegal) so that he can give a windfall to the UAW.
This is the way Hugo Chavez would handle the situation. It is not the way the President of the United States should act. This should be a warning to anyone who was naive enough to think Obama was a moderate. He and his supporters do not believe in any economic rights. They think there is just a big pile of money and that it is Obama’s job to get a bigger part of it for them (“he’s going to pay my mortgage”, that kind of stuff).
Posted by: Uncle Joe's Patriotic Taxpayer | May 4, 2009, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
so many here complain about Chicago, wonder how many can find it on a map
Posted by: yeah sure | May 4, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm
Obama is dividing and conquering those who claim to be Christains and the real Christians. True Christians saw thru him because we have discernment.
Here is the knife that cuts. You cannot be a Democrat and a Christain at the same time for many reasons but mainly for his stance on abortion. Get saved and it all becomes clear.
Posted by: Letsfaceit | May 4, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Obama isn’t the new JFK, he’s the new Nixon.
Posted by: Brad | May 4, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/04/right-wing-radio-tapper/
Posted by: Charles | May 4, 2009, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm
After the story was cooked up by right-wing hate radio, it was peddled to members of the White House press corps, at least one of whom took the bait. On his radio show on Friday, right-wing talker Mark Levin discussed Lauria’s claims against Obama, and then called on his listeners to pressure the White House press corps — specifically ABC’s Jake Tapper — to report the story:
LEVIN: Somebody needs to pursue what’s going on in the White House behind the scenes! And stop playing games and making nice! American citizens — whatever walk of life they’re in — should not be threatened by the White House! Should not be told we’re going to drag you through the mud with the White House press corps! So confident is the White House that they have the White House press corps wrapped around their little finger! Maybe Jake Tapper will take a look at this. Ask that doofus — Gibbs.
Posted by: Charles | May 4, 2009, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
How much damage can be done in 100 days… Blame America world tour, gave back bust of Churchill, systematically destroyed the CIA, destroy the auto industry and sell out to the Europeans, weaken the military, embolden your enemies, shake hands with an oppressive Stalinist dictator, spend more money in 2 months than Bush did in 8 years… Does the madness ever end? Give your illegal alien aunt special priveledges… shall I go on?
Posted by: WPBRay | May 4, 2009, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
This is scary, the last time I read that a president threatened citizens it was Russia. Man did we elect a KING!
Posted by: bruce | May 4, 2009, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
ABC’s Jake Tapper Picks It Up, Drudge Promotes It
A day after Levin’s show aired, ABC’s White House correspondent Jake Tapper gave the right-wing attacks the platform they were looking for. Tapper reported, “A leading bankruptcy attorney representing hedge funds and money managers told ABC News Saturday that Steve Rattner, the leader of the Obama administration’s Auto Industry Task Force, threatened one of the firms.” After Tapper reported it, Drudge linked to his story and helped give it further amplification:
Posted by: Charles | May 4, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
Obama is slowly degrading civilty in our society. This is not the man I voted for. These are very disturbing developments. Even if you don’t believe this lawyer, the President’s own quotes are very divisive. This is not how you bring a weakened country back together after eight years of Bush. Not again!
Posted by: Melissa | May 4, 2009, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
When Obama handed over Chrysler to the UAW he officially became President Mob Boss. I surely do believe he would threaten anyone that doesn’t agree with him (Joe the Plummer, Tea Party Movement, Palin). He is no longer President of the United State as far as I can see. He’s apparently more concerned with having control over your muffler than things like, oh, protecting America from “man-caused disasters”. I think this guy is pathologically obsessed with confiscating personal and business income. I think he has a criminal mind and that is why most people can’t get a handle on who he is because he is so deceptive norman people can’t relate to him.
Posted by: Terry | May 4, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Why would anyone think this story is not true? Obama is a Chicago-trained politician. Does any rational person actually believe that someone who studied Daly-style politics can be trusted? We just haven’t had a “St Valentine’s Day” massacre. Yet.
Posted by: mikeinfxbg | May 4, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
Charles, what else are they not telling us? The media lead us to believe in this man. I can’t believe I voted for such an inmature person. Obama’s quotes say it all. Who cares about Drudge. We have an teenager for a president!
Posted by: Melissa | May 4, 2009, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
Chicago-style politics come to the White House. Why are we surprised? Obama has used this type of modus operandi before. He lets his henchmen do the dirty work, and he appears unscathed and holier-than-thou.
Posted by: CABluebird | May 4, 2009, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm
ABC’s Jake Tapper Picks It Up, Drudge Promotes It
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And THREE CHEERS FOR JAKE TAPPER and Drudge!! Otherwise the Chicago gutter politics would never have been revealed. Jake is one of this last real Journalists in this country and should be commended for reporting whatever is NEWS in an unbiased fashion and let the chips fall where they fall!!
I call that courage.
Posted by: Peggy | May 4, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
Don’t these investors know that we all want the President to succeed? Even if they lose their retirement. Listen to NBC prople!
Posted by: ddougies | May 4, 2009, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
This morning, ThinkProgress documented a series of facts about how right-wing radio helped push a false political attack against President Obama. The attack began with a false assertion made by a corporate lawyer named Tom Lauria who appeared on a conservative radio show. The comment was taken up by a right-wing radio host who works for ABC. The story then got the attention of ABC’s Jake Tapper who took it to the White House for comment (the White House denied it). And finally, it ended up on Drudge. An ABC News spokesperson issued a statement to ThinkProgress denying that Tapper first learned of the story from a right-wing radio host. ABC explains that Tapper simply “overhead” an unnamed radio reporter talking about the matter:
Your assertion that Jake reported on this matter because he was encouraged to do so by conservative talk radio hosts or their listeners is inaccurate. No one pressured him, no one peddled anything to him, and no one reached out to him to cover this. Indeed, the first he heard of Mark Levin pushing this story was in your post.
Jake first heard of this story when he overheard a radio reporter talking about Mr. Lauria’s interview with WJR-AM. Having covered the Chrysler deal for ABC News, and having spoken to many Obama administration officials about the hedge funds whom President Obama disparaged, Jake was also interested in hearing the other side of the story.
He did due diligence on Lauria, found he was a leading bankruptcy attorney who represents players in this debate, with no discernible partisan bias, and called him up. He also reached out to the White House and got its denial of the story. Your implication is completely different from what actually happened.
By reporting the story, Tapper chose to accept the validity of Lauria’s claim that the White House could get “the full force of the White House press corps” to threaten a private company. Despite the fact that both the White House and Perella Weinberg denied to ABC that any threats were made, Tapper still reported Lauria’s false accusation on his “Political Punch” blog. Drudge and other right-wing outlets are glad he did.
Posted by: Charles | May 4, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
Obama wants the investors to take 29 cents on the dollar? They wanted 50 cents and he called them stingy? So the UAW is going to take 29 cents on the dollar as well. Right? Let’s be fair! Wow, you can see who lines Obama’s pockets. Gov’t is at its best when politicians get to pick the winners and losers. Yes We Can!
Posted by: Thomas Jefferson | May 4, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Since Obama has taken control of the banks, I wonder what he is doing with the financial records of individual Americans that have accounts in these banks?
Posted by: Terry | May 4, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
Ok, let me get this straight.
The White House denies threatening to do exactly what they are currently doing to those that didn’t cave in?
Posted by: PAUL | May 4, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
And the left called Cheney “Darth Vader”, this makes Obama look like Al Capone. Thanks to dems, we have a Chicago-style Bully government. At this point, I’d even rather have Bill Clinton than Obama! At least Bill had governed and knew tax cuts meant more revenue!! I hate to see how our economy will look in 1 year. These 100 days has had more damage done than Wilson, FDR, Carter and Clinton combined! The sad thing is that this attorney gave $10,000 to Obama’s campaign! More people to be thrown under the bus.
Posted by: justrighttoo | May 4, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
I hate to disappoint your gods but this is the man you voted for wait till you’re electricity bill goes up 100%. You wanted change now are getting and don’t like. Just glad I was and smart enough to see thru the transparent man at fist glance. I hope you don’t have much debit because they will demand immediate payment on your total balance within 30 days.
Posted by: Just me | May 4, 2009, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
Dow’s way up today. Why? because all the Drudge-reading hedge fund managers and other Rovian Republicans who usually steal your money are busy over here defaming the President and trying to protect their special interests.
Posted by: libertyjustice33 | May 4, 2009, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm
Why would a prominent attorney make such a public claim on a case that’s about to go to court where (hopefully) rules of evidence still apply, meaning he could be called to testify to his claim under a threat of perjury? Why would he do that unless he could back it up.
We’ve seen the strong-arming of this President when he told the bankers that his administration was between them and the pitchforks, and not the rule of law, the idea that things could be sorted out in a rational way without his hysteria.
When Chrysler comes out of bankruptcy as a UAW-owned company, I will NEVER buy one. I won’t set foot on one of their lots. I will never touch a company that Obama meddles in for as long as the effects of that meddling persist.
Obama is doing to America what Al Qaida can’t do. He’s destroying incentive; destroying self-responsibility; playing the role, not of Robin Hood, but of Prince John. May the fleas of ten 3.4 trillion camels (one camel for each dollar of new debt that the Messiah foisted on us) infest the homes of everyone who voted for this pollywocker.
Posted by: harry | May 4, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
This is a lie being perpetuated by right wing radio. Either Jake is stupid and got caught up in this lie… or he is helping to perpetuate it… Either way his reputation is tarnished.
Posted by: Vic | May 4, 2009, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
Charles, all the TPM in the world, and associated lefty spin, can’t change the fact that Obama DID demonize those bond holders who didnt play ball and subordinate their SENIOR notes to the Union’s JUNIOR notes.
Did you see the speech? “I DO NOT STAND WITH THEM” ???? Demonizing them?
Obama made good on his threat.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? I know you worship Obama, but facts are facts.
1. Rattner pressures TARP banks and non-TARP hedge funds. TARP banks say yes, non-tarp say no, and Rattner promises media hell for those saying no.
2. Obama makes good on the threat, unleashes media hell with his “I DO NOT STAND WITH THEM” speech, and the lefty MSM and blogs duly attack the holdouts
3. Lauria tells the truth on a radio show, and now, of course, Lauria, who gave 10k to DEMOCRATS in 2008, is now demonized.
That’s the truth, lefty. Deal with it.
Posted by: the Truth | May 4, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm
We have elected a manchild for president. I even voted for this man. Democrats, we must work at softening this Obama’s attacks! We didn’t bargain for this behavior. We have unleashed something we didn’t quite understand. I feel uneasy about the power he has now. The power that Bush grabbed from us all. I am very apprehensive with Obama’s statements. They are not the type of statements he made during the campaign.
Posted by: Jim | May 4, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
This is not just about threatening a firm. This is about completely ignoring bankruptcy laws, in essence Obama has told secured creditors, screw you.
Another shoot from the hip policy that will send reverberations and create unintended consequences down the line just like at the CIA. This administration just doesn’t think, period. The only problem they have, it is not just the GOP and opponents that are getting worried, it is everyone.
Posted by: NoMoreMr.NiceGuy | May 4, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
This reminds me of Hillary’s “right-wing” conspiracy. A lie to cover up the truth. (Something her and Bill are really good at). Remember, whatever “is” is? Bill knew he was lying from the get go, he just didn’t want to get caught. According to democrats, lying under oath is no big deal.
Same for Obama. He lied about his history with Marxists and tried to blame it on Joe “The Plumber”. They stole Joe’s personal information and leaked it to the press,(somehow, no one got charged or lost their job). Kinda reminds me of Sandy Bergler stuffing confidential papers down his pants and no arrests!
Obama will deny he doesn’t want to own the banks and auto industry, but ACTION speak louder than words. WE KNOW YOU ARE A LIAR, OBAMA. The American people are not fooled.
Posted by: justrighttoo | May 4, 2009, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm
the Truth
‘Why is this so hard for you to understand?That’s the truth, lefty. Deal with it. ‘
You republicans lost in 2006 and 2008,
deal with it… righty
Posted by: n0n | May 4, 2009, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
Tapper is ABC’s token “balance” guy. His “provocative” questions get 10 seconds a week or get buried on a blog, However, they are supposed “prove” that ABC news isn’t a lib PR firm.
I’d like to take him seriously, but I’m convinced it’s a shell game, and he knows his place– he’ll never “uncover” anything major (except maybe by accident). Then, Fox may try to run with it, but get shouted down or ignored by the MSM (including ABC).
It’s a game, folks.
Posted by: doesn't mean a thing | May 4, 2009, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm
Get a life folks – neither political party is worth a second of your energy to defend.
Why would anyone blindly accept any denial of any claim by the white house or NBC to be credible?
It’s amazing how the koolaid drinkers will immediately believe anything coming from their beloved savior, his office or his press corp. and immediately reject anything said by anyone on the right. And the right will believe any story of political abuse from the left. Now that shows openmindedness, objectivity, and intelligence – NOT. .
The ruling elites are just howling over the dissent and division that their make believe politics causes in the US. Don’t be a dupe – start thinking for yourself.
Someone is telling the truth and someone is lying – even with a thorough investigation the truth will never be known (eg:911). Move on.
Posted by: FrankTalk | May 4, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
Presidnet Obams’s comments about Weinstein Perella and other creditors were tantamount to his suggesting they be devied the protection that the bankruptcy law affords them as creditos. I guess the law only should protect those whose interests align with those of the President. Perhaps he was angry because Weinstein Perella is the successor firm to wasserman Perella where rahm Emanuel worked and pocketed over $16 million for tow years work. Maybe teh President thought that Rahm’s relationship with Perella would get assure the support of his firm. In the end, that support was achieved but the use of Obama’s harsh rhetoric, whether or not followed by an outright threat by others, is a misuse of presidential power. Legal protection, whether the President likes it or not, is offered by the bankruptcy law and investors, and others, should be free to use it without being publicly pilloried.
Posted by: bev | May 4, 2009, 1:27 pm 1:27 pm
I would be interested in a response from the MEDIA since they are part of Obama’s
mob.
…use the full force on the media to destroy and discredit? Wow, really makes you wonder about the “news” in this country as it is taken over by a dictator con & crook sitting in the White House.
Posted by: "Il Duche" | May 4, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Who is going to buy American Treasuries if this is how you treat bond holders? When Obama starts defaulting on our enormous debt, is he going to tell all the Chinese who own $1.9 trillion of our debt to take 29 cents on the dollar? These guys are truly short sighted. This is what we call “on the job training.”
Posted by: Bond Holder | May 4, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Can we all agree, regardless of political party affiliation that we are losing our liberty at an exponential rate? If we can agree on that, if we can unite as just Americans, we would take control of our country again.
Posted by: Terry | May 4, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Non and other lefties:
Which is more “fair” or less “greedy”:
1. Perrella Weinberg and others take TWENTY NINE CENTS ON THE DOLLAR for their investment in Chrysler (keeping in mind they’d get at least half if Chrysler was liquidated because of their senior lien position, AHEAD of the unions)
or
2. Rahm Emanuel getting SIXTEEN MILLION DOLLARS for making political connections for the very same Perrella firm from 98-01.
Funny, Obama certainly “stands with” Emanuel getting 16 million for doing nothing other than using his connections gotten by being a Clinton advisor, i.e. SELLING INFLUENCE – the VERY THING OBAMA COMPLAINS ABOUT re LOBBYISTS and the “culture of corruption” in Washington.
All the non-TARP lenders were trying to do was get half their money – 50% – of what is owed, as that was the low end estimate of what would be recovered during a liquidation BKR.
Somehow this is evil greed, but Emanuel’s 16 million for selling his political connections isn’t evil greed yet REWARDED WITH TEH CHIEF OF STAFF JOB?
Hypocrisy, thy name is Lefty.
Posted by: the Truth | May 4, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Bond Holder….How right you are! We sell so much debt to foreign countries that we would collapse if they stopped buying. Who wants to get 29 cents back on their investment? England, Germany, Japan, China? Nope. This is a tragic turn of events for us all…
Posted by: Good Neighbor | May 4, 2009, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm
Completely believable.We have the precedent of ACORN shutting down radio stations and intimidating voters.Obama is a strutting thug.No better his pal Hugo
Posted by: Robin | May 4, 2009, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
The headline should read, “Obama Destroys US Treasury.” Why would anyone buy debt from the U.S. Treasury knowing that this is how you will be treated when times get tough. Obama is burning the candle at both ends. He insults bond investors and simultaneously increases our debt load. We are going to get hurt…
Posted by: Alexander Hamilton | May 4, 2009, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm
No surprise there. Of course Rattner threatened them. This is the administration that kicked reporters off the campaign plane if their newspapers/magazines weren’t rabidly pro-Obama. At least Rahm Emanuel didn’t mail them a dead fish. Then they’d KNOW they were in trouble.
Posted by: Ralphie | May 4, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
Obama’s own statements are truly imbicillic. Does he expect buyers of U.S. Treasuries to eagerly continue buying when he shows such distain for investors? Who is going to buy from him? Who will invest in his mountain of debt that pays off political cronies? He really is a neophite, a child no less.
Posted by: Madison | May 4, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
“You republicans lost in 2006 and 2008,
deal with it…”
You Demoncrats lost in 2000,2002 and 2004. You didn’t just “deal with it”, you protested and bad mouthed everything that came out of Washington.
Now, YOU WILL be criticized … DEAL WITH IT!
Posted by: Republican | May 4, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
If you are a history buff, you would see that these days look very similar to the beginning days of Hitler’s reign, or Hugo Chavez’s reign. Both strong armed their way to total control.
First the banks were bullied to take TARP and now the administration will not allow them to pay back, and now they treaten investment groups who by the way invest the money of average taxpayers, working class people who have their retirement, college accounts invested with them. These strong arm tactics are used because Obama wants not only to retain power, but to pay the unions back for their support.
Has anyone seen BO’s birth certficate? No? Why? If nothing to hide, why is he hiding it? He is spending missions to keep the truth hidden. Why?
Posted by: Labasit | May 4, 2009, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm
I personally don’t give a rat’s behind what those investors think. They can beg for scraps like the rest of us. Wall Street hustlers get no sympathy from me.
Posted by: sgur | May 4, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Bart wrote:
“This is not even akin to thuggery in the least , this is a good government repudiating and admonishing back door thievery and racketeering .
GO MR OBAMA ,MAKE IT HURT!!”
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Bart,
You DO understand that these people INVESTED MONEY in a company. That companies cannot succeed without investors? -And that making those people into criminals, because they simply want their contract honored, is a bad idea?
Heck, lemme put it this way; check out your 401k, or your retirement plan. If you found out that Obama was trying to invalidate your investment, wouldn’t you be pissed? Distraught? Would you be the one in the wrong?
Posted by: John | May 4, 2009, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm
buy gold as your only investment… dig a hole in the ground to live in… line the walls of your hole with the gold bullion to prevent hole collapse… wait until obama is deposed to come out of hole.
Posted by: howard roark | May 4, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
………You are taking the word of an attorney, over the word of the actual firm dealing with the negotiations.
I hope none of you is ever on a jury!
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Hey, that should tell you something about your Marxist Dictator! I would actually believe the worst shyster lawyer in the country over Barack Hussein Obummer!
Posted by: Peggy | May 4, 2009, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm
Sgur….”I personally don’t give a rat’s behind what those investors think. They can beg for scraps like the rest of us. Wall Street hustlers get no sympathy from me.”
You better care. Who do you think buys the U.S. Treasury bonds? We would be out of business as a country if investors stopped buying treasury bonds for a month. This is what is so sad about this development. You have now taken sides against the very persons that sustain your existence. Obama has persuaded you to despise the persons that pay you to work. Whether you believe me or not, Obama just lessoned your chance of getting a raise this year or next….
Posted by: Nadia | May 4, 2009, 2:16 pm 2:16 pm
“Last week, in an appalling show of corporate greed, a small group of speculators sank the Obama administration’s proposed Chrysler deal for just ‘an extra fifteen cents on the dollar.’ The selfish greed of the hedge funds may, however, have produced a good result by forcing Chrysler into the bankruptcy process.”
Greed? Not at all. The whole thing is politics as usual.
In a bankruptcy, the hedge funds would have been entitled to about 60 cents on the dollar. Why should they be willing to take significantly less simply because the administration asked them to do so? If you were a bondholder, would you say “OK, I’ll take half of what I’m entitled to so that we can keep Chrysler in business?” No, you wouldn’t, because keeping Chrysler afloat is designed to benefit the country as a whole, not the bondholders.
Those who obtain the benefit of a particular activity should be the ones who pay the cost. Thus, if keeping Chrysler afloat is such an urgent national priority that will benefit the country as a whole, then ALL Americans (i.e., the taxpayers) should be asked to sacrifice, not merely a few banks and hedge funds. In other words, take Chrysler through a pre-packaged bankruptcy; give the bondholders the money to which they are entitled; and use federal money to recapitalize the company so that the UAW employees and reitrees get what the administration thinks they should have.
Of course, the trouble with such an equitable, logical solution is — as Obama correctly notes in his phrase about “waiting for an unjustified taxpayer-funded bailout” — that the American people won’t support it. Most of us think that we’ve spent far too much money bailing out the auto industry already, and that Chrysler and GM ought to be allowed to go quietly into the night (some of us think we should have let Chrysler disappear back in the late 70s). So the Obama administration had to come up with some other, less controversial way to get the additional money they needed, and they found one: screw the bondholders. The bondholders are large banks and hedge funds, and the public hates them more than they do the government.
Posted by: mfdesquire | May 4, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
Most people are getting ZERO cents on the dollar and these babies are crying because they are getting 29 cents on the dollar? Waaah, too bad. Welcome to the real world.
Posted by: waaahwaah | May 4, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm
For all you Obama haters out there do not forget the Grand Old Party is the reason our economy is in this situation. You all had 8 years to prove your worth, and you did. I’d rather have a POTUS who is not afraid to strongarm Wall Street instead of the previous POTUS who let them run wild and ruin our economy.
The GOP is scared this administration will be successful, restore America’s prosperity and lead the world the way we are capable of.
Posted by: Reality Check | May 4, 2009, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
waaahwaah wrote:
Most people are getting ZERO cents on the dollar and these babies are crying because they are getting 29 cents on the dollar? Waaah, too bad. Welcome to the real world.
Actually you are wrong, most people have not lost everything, just those who believed the gov’t can help them at every turn. The rest of us understand prosperity cannot be bestowed upon us by our gov’t. We have to earn it, and invest it. Obama just trashed the second step of the American Dream…
Posted by: American Dream | May 4, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
Good job, Jake. Keep digging – for as long as ABC lets you. Unfortunately, you will never again be allowed to ask a question at a White House press conference, and all your WH sources will mysteriously now go mum. You are now to be shunned as an “enemy” of the administration. Folks, the Nixon administration’s anti-press sentiments have nothing on Rahm and the Obama team. Jake will now be on the White House Enemies List for daring to air a story that is unflattering to the WH.
Posted by: The End Up |
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Maybe. But We The People will be watching and taking note. We can be a *itch on wheels when it comes to writing, faxing, telephoning and protesting this corrupt administration.
Posted by: Peggy | May 4, 2009, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm
I’m beginning to see how a once great country can become a 3rd world Banana republic ruled by a dictator. Always wondered how that could happen.
Posted by: Kathy | May 4, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
The sheer amount of ignorance in these comments is stunning.
Cultural Marxism is here to stay, and the Messiah will not be opposed. Anyone proclaiming otherwise is selling something, getting something or is just plain old stupid.
Posted by: The Truth | May 4, 2009, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm
Welcome to our new capitol
Washington, District of Chicago
Posted by: R. B. Canon | May 4, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
Reality Check….This is not about dems/repubs. This is about our way of life. Do you want your grandchildren enslaved to the state? Bush and the conservatives were pikers compared to this bunch. Can you imagine what this group will do with the power the patriot act bestows upon them? We are truly facing a president that will happily reduce our individual liberties. What is an investor? Just an individual that supports a company’s success.
Posted by: Media Man | May 4, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Reality Check wrote, “The GOP is scared this administration will… restore America’s prosperity…”
yes, we reedy conservatives and GOP’ers are terrified that our prosperity will be restored. if all we care about in money — and not people like you fine folks on the left — wouldn’t we be cheering ANYONE who returned the country to financial stability so we can continue to rake in our obscene profits?!
you’re not making much sense, mr. check.
Posted by: howard roark | May 4, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
To “the truth” which in itself is a lie.
You just don’t get it do you? I could care less if their is a “D” or an “I” or an “R” after their name. In this case it should be a “C” for the COMMUNIST!
You seem to want everything to be about politics while this two-bit hack destroy our country (not sure where yours or his might be)but this country cares more about the rule of law, our defense and our future than what political party has majority. The majority that you need to worry about is the majority in the country that are being harmed by this administration that is turning my country into a 3rd World country.
I’m starting to think people were correct when they said Obama was “Manchurian Candidate” only in his case it would be a Radical Islamic Economic Terrorist with ties to the most vile groups in the world. (off subject by why again did Obama send Hamas $901 million)
From defense of this country to the attack from the truly radical and insane left. We are seeing an attack on the country that the majority of US are not willing to accept. T R E A S O N!
Posted by: Enough | May 4, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Madison wrote:
Obama’s own statements are truly imbicillic. Does he expect buyers of U.S. Treasuries to eagerly continue buying when he shows such distain for investors? Who is going to buy from him? Who will invest in his mountain of debt that pays off political cronies? He really is a neophite, a child no less.
I agree…
Posted by: Tim | May 4, 2009, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm
Why would an attorney violate attorney client privilege by discussing what happened between a meeting of the client and white house staff on a talk radio show, Wouldn’t that attorney risk disbarment? Makes the source sound fishy or foolish.
Posted by: theobvious | May 4, 2009, 2:51 pm 2:51 pm
Alexander Hamilton wrote:
The headline should read, “Obama Destroys US Treasury.” Why would anyone buy debt from the U.S. Treasury knowing that this is how you will be treated when times get tough. Obama is burning the candle at both ends. He insults bond investors and simultaneously increases our debt load. We are going to get hurt…
Very nicely put…
Posted by: Amanda | May 4, 2009, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm
Alexander Hamilton wrote:
The headline should read, “Obama Destroys US Treasury.” Why would anyone buy debt from the U.S. Treasury knowing that this is how you will be treated when times get tough. Obama is burning the candle at both ends. He insults bond investors and simultaneously increases our debt load. We are going to get hurt…
Actually, he’s not “insulting” them, he’s stealing from them…
Posted by: Rubicon My Friend | May 4, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Why is it that EVERY ISSUE in this country devolves into an “US vs. THEM” skirmish with the Democrats now in power??? If they are not constantly RACE-BAITING, then they are constantly “RICH-BAITING”–knocking the so-called RICH & CORPORATIONS as “THE PROBLEM”… WHEN will the current Admin GROW UP and tackle the problems directly and honestly, without constantly using such DIVISIVE TACTICS to push their own self-serving agenda?
Posted by: DIVISIVE TACTICS GETTING VERY OLD | May 4, 2009, 3:00 pm 3:00 pm
I truly respect the office. However I have serious doubts about the man, President Obama. It seems that with him, yes means no and no means yes.
I regret the day he was inaugurated. Let’s see what the ballot box says in four years providing that Acorn is held at bay.
Posted by: ronald Ceres | May 4, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
Obamunism at it’s best. Take from anyone who has it and give it to the unions who you owe everything to. You Obama supporters better wake up and look around you and see in what direction our New Socialst Order (Obama administration) is taking us. If you’re smart enough to know the difference between capitalism and socialism, I think you’ll start questioning this administrations actions.
Posted by: candor | May 4, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Bond Holder wrote:
“Who is going to buy American Treasuries if this is how you treat bond holders? When Obama starts defaulting on our enormous debt, is he going to tell all the Chinese who own $1.9 trillion of our debt to take 29 cents on the dollar? These guys are truly short sighted. This is what we call “on the job training.”
Logic is not politics. Politics is not economics. And we tax payers are stuck in between…We will pay dearly for this president’s mistakes….
Posted by: Aristotle | May 4, 2009, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm
This is ridiculous. The problems with the auto industry happened because of the unions, not the investors, yet he wants to take over the companies and hand them right over the the source of the problem. I feel bad for people who put their money on the line, only to have the government steal it from them.
Posted by: Lawrence | May 4, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
It seems to me the way Obama portrayed the hedge fund holdouts as unAmerican and greedy, not willing to sacrifice and placed them out there as greedy villains, pretty much shows he meant to destroy their reputations. I think the story has merit.
I applaud them for standing up against blackmail and strongarm tactics because they have a FIDUCIARY duty to their clients and they would be derelict in their duties if they knew they gave up first lien status to be repaid at much more money to a place where they received much less and their head of the line status was gone.
How would you like it if your pension was in their hands and they capitulated to this?
By the way, what everyone should pay attention to is the unemployment numbers. As long as those greedy corporate types are hamstrung and the small business owners are taxed, as long as capital gains taxes are high, the chances of an increase in hiring is slim to none and the chances of interest rates going up as we have to start borrowing a trillion dollars to fund our so-called government pork projects every single month from now on is going to kill the economy.
You haven’t seen anything yet. Profits are up because of all the cuts, not because of confidence. O’s policies are going to make this recession last much, much longer and throw us into debt we could have avoided if we had just allowed the market to work. We’d probably be seeing the end of the tunnel by now if but for “our” government.
Posted by: Lil in Florida | May 4, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Obamacide said:
“Well, for those of you voting for “Change” I have only one thing to say:
Told you so! You’re getting the CHANGE aren’t you?”
….Yep we’re getting our 29 cents of change on the dollar. Yes We Can!
Posted by: Beware the ides of March | May 4, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Bond Holder wrote:
“Who is going to buy American Treasuries if this is how you treat bond holders? When Obama starts defaulting on our enormous debt, is he going to tell all the Chinese who own $1.9 trillion of our debt to take 29 cents on the dollar? These guys are truly short sighted. This is what we call “on the job training.”
Logic is not politics. Politics is not economics. And we tax payers are stuck in between…We will pay dearly for this president’s mistakes….
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Well said!
Posted by: MSP | May 4, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
It’s a shakedown…plain and simple…Pay off the union thugs at the expense of the investors…This will make Watergate look like a picnic before this whole wrongheaded mingling of government, finance and industry is over.
Posted by: bag o cheese | May 4, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
I can’t believe that ABC is actually getting a bit more conservative in its reporting and is actually questioning the administration. Kudo’s to Jake. This is the only reason I watch the network news anymore. Some balance a little bit anyway — finally.
Posted by: Martin | May 4, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
For the dummbo in the White House to say that the fund would not sacrifice is patently a lie.
Sacrifice implies some sort of voluntary act. What the dumb a$$ in the White House wanted was for the fund to surrender its rights, and its clients assets.
There is a big difference, and the leftist knows it. I believe the firm’s lawyer rather than anyone associated with the Obama cabal that is destroyig our financial industry.
Posted by: RallyG | May 4, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
To: Reality Check
Dude…you need a reality check of your own. Bill Clinton had more to do with the current status of our economy than Bush did.
1) Clinton “Securitized” the sub-prime lending market to make it easier for people to buy homes. It worked – and the housing bust today is the result. Oh yeah…Republicans tried SEVERAL times to address this problem before the bust hit – and Democrats shut them down. Fault: Democrats
2) Remember the surpluses under Clinton? Sure you do…everyone says, “Clinton = surplusses, Bush = Deficits.” The Surplusses came from economic policy that Pappa Bush put in place. And…check this for yourself…the last 2 years Clinton was in office, the “Surplusses” were rapidly declining…and almost completely gone the day Bush stepped into office. Fault: Democrat
3) Bush inherited the “Dot-com bust” from Clinton just a few months after coming into office. We’ve never fully recovered from THAT recession – which happened to make the current recession that much worse.
Get your facts straight. Democrats are far more responsible for the economy today than you are willing to accept.
Democrats are the dreamers…Republicans are the pragmatists that make the Dem’s dreams come true because someone’s got to pay for it. Obama & Democrats would raise your taxes…Republicans create policy that starts new industries that hire new employees and increase our economic capability and strength in order to make Democratic dreams Republican realities.
Leave Democrats unchecked – and they’ll come up with great ideas for sure…but if you let them make those ideas realities, they’ll keep it in the Government’s hands…NOT the private sector where businesses thrive and create jobs.
Finally…take a look at your own party – for the last 2 years Bush was in office, YOUR party’s Congressional approval rating was HALF of Bush’s. So…we had 8 years, huh? This is the 3rd year of a Democrat Controlled Congress…and yet TODAY the Congressional Approval Rating is 28%!!!! Bush was still higher than that on his last day in office. So if the Dem’s own the government and have all the answers as you apparently believe – how come only 28% of the population of the USA agrees with you and the Democratically controlled Congress?
Just some food for thought…
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For all you Obama haters out there do not forget the Grand Old Party is the reason our economy is in this situation. You all had 8 years to prove your worth, and you did. I’d rather have a POTUS who is not afraid to strongarm Wall Street instead of the previous POTUS who let them run wild and ruin our economy.
The GOP is scared this administration will be successful, restore America’s prosperity and lead the world the way we are capable of.
Posted by: Obamanomics | May 4, 2009, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
“Obama wants the investors to take 29 cents on the dollar? They wanted 50 cents and he called them stingy? So the UAW is going to take 29 cents on the dollar as well. Right? Let’s be fair! Wow, you can see who lines Obama’s pockets. Gov’t is at its best when politicians get to pick the winners and losers. Yes We Can!”
Well said…
Posted by: Two Eyes | May 4, 2009, 3:25 pm 3:25 pm
Let’s not forget that Obama just gave Holder permission to prosecute American lawyers trying to keep us safe while letting terrorist free. So I believe the lawyer who called Obama out and I hope there are more courageous people out there willing to do the same.
Posted by: Terry | May 4, 2009, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Hey ABC.
Pearls and swine, and I can’t say you don’t deserve it. (Thanks for doing a great job of cheerleading us into Iraq, DUH!)
What was that old saying about the fleas of a thousand camels or something?
Boy do you deserve this insightful fan club!!
Enjoy.
Posted by: rainbowsally | May 4, 2009, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
The liberal media has caused this problem. They and a lot of people in this country are still swept up with this idea of a black president and all of the good that he will do. When in fact the reality is that all of us including the liberal media will suffer because of these crazy “Hugo Chavez” Ideology that has moved into the White House.
Posted by: Jorge Valdes | May 4, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
So Jake, you take a specious claim by Lauria and try to present it as fact, when both the White House and the company in question denied such an event happened. Talk about shoddy journalism.
Posted by: Jenner | May 4, 2009, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Alexander Hamilton wrote:
The headline should read, “Obama Destroys US Treasury.” Why would anyone buy debt from the U.S. Treasury knowing that this is how you will be treated when times get tough. Obama is burning the candle at both ends. He insults bond investors and simultaneously increases our debt load. We are going to get hurt…
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I think this is the story behind the story. Very well said. The Chinese have already reduced their rate of investment in US Treasuries. They are also selling off their dollar stockpile. What does this tell you? Words do mean something in the investment world. But actions speak much louder….
Posted by: Treasury Guy | May 4, 2009, 3:46 pm 3:46 pm
So we now have the Sopranos running (or should I say “ruining”) our great country…this is truly terrifying
Posted by: Renee | May 4, 2009, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm
Nothing new here. The Bush WH threatened our LAW firm for representing unpopular clients. DC is full of loser bullies who can do nothing but bully b/c tey never did anything productive with their life and they only know how to steal from those of us who are productive.
Posted by: DC Bullies - Nothing New | May 4, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
Bond Holder wrote:
“Who is going to buy American Treasuries if this is how you treat bond holders? When Obama starts defaulting on our enormous debt, is he going to tell all the Chinese who own $1.9 trillion of our debt to take 29 cents on the dollar? These guys are truly short sighted. This is what we call “on the job training.”
Logic is not politics. Politics is not economics. And we tax payers are stuck in between…We will pay dearly for this president’s mistakes….
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He won’t default, they’ll just raise our taxes. Everyone’s taxes. Yahoo! Yes We Can!
Posted by: Tommy Two Guns | May 4, 2009, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
I find it odd that anyone thinks that Obama wouldnt do this, my lord it’s his standard operating procedure!
Chrysler sucked, now they will be run by a bunch of Italians and labor leftists, yes I can see the brilliance of Obama shining through once again, what a joke!
By 2010 we will all be forced to purchase and use the 3 wheeled 10 HP death traps that Chrysler will produce under lord Obama, and the company name will be changed to Christler, to honor lord Obama.
Of course he and his little scum bag family will be cruising DC in their giant SUV’s or jetting around in Air force one, all the while continuing to argue for ever more “Sacrafice” from working people.
Obama, worst president ever, and that’s an understatment.
Posted by: Todd | May 4, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
JAKE JAKE JAKE..STOP BEING USED BY THE RIGHTWING NUTS. I KNOW THE PRESS CORP IS A VERY COMPETITIVE ARENA BUT DO YOUR HOMEWORK OR YOUR CREDIBILITY WILL GO FURTHER IN THE TOILET,THE STORY ABOUT THR HEDGE FUND WAS A RUSE AND YOU TOOK THE BAIT.THESE PEOPLE ARE LIKE TRAPPED ANIMALS AND WILL SAY AND DO ANYTHING TO STOP BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.
Posted by: yvonne | May 4, 2009, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
I am pleased to see that some network other than Fox has posted a story on this. Limbaugh, Levin, Hannity all are talking about it on their radio. I heard the interview audio at WJR-radio in Detroit on the Frank Beckman show.
I believe this threat was made..just fits the Obama Administation character – their all Chicago thugs anyway.
I never thought I would live the day that our White House is committing crimes again our Constitution.
WHERE’S THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS?????
Posted by: US Constitution | May 4, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
It’s amazing to me how many Americans still have no idea who Obama really is. Think about who he’s appointing in his cabinet – that alone should tell you something….yet he’s on TV protesting about tax evaders hiding in America.
Posted by: Vikkie | May 4, 2009, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
chicago politics.
this is EMANUEL and AXELROD.
JARRETT knows this from being a bag laady for mayor DALEY.
later MICHELLE ROBINSON OBAMA Held this job and met REZKO.
Posted by: deroy | May 4, 2009, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Obama is definately the worst president of the USA. FDR,LBJ, and Carter are presidents who tried to do what Obama is doing now – but Obama is going to fast and too many things for socialism/marxism that people are noticing more and more. Good!
MORE TEA PARTIES.
Posted by: The Constitituiton | May 4, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
0bama treats Americans like dirt even while he’s bowing an grinning to kings and dictators abroad.
When a Democrat Representative wouldn’t go along with the bailout, 0bama’s threat to him was: “Don’t think we’re not keeping score, brother.”
What an odious vermin we’ve elected.
Posted by: Baja_ha | May 4, 2009, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
What I wonder is just what is the mechanism by which Obama can turn the fury of WH Press Corps against a private party? Astounding!
Posted by: Pete Kent | May 4, 2009, 4:14 pm 4:14 pm
That’s how they do things in Chicago TThey’re thugs. Either pay to play or we’ll threaten you.
It’s no coincidence the banks that went along with his Nationalization plan all got billions in tax payer money.
Posted by: Bunny | May 4, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
“there’s obviously no evidence to suggest that this happened in any way.”
Whenever someone uses the word “obvious” in a debate, they are trying to snooker you.
Posted by: Ifticar | May 4, 2009, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
“What I wonder is just what is the mechanism by which Obama can turn the fury of WH Press Corps against a private party? Astounding!”
Maybe it is the same mechanism that gets them to all stand when Obama enters the room. Maybe it is the same mechanism that kept them sitting when Bush entered the room. Let’s give that mechanism a name: Fawning Bias.
Posted by: Ifticar | May 4, 2009, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
What “actions” do the Chrysler hedge funds and investors who said no to Obama’s demand that they SUBORDINATE their senior liens to the union’s junior liens?
What logic backs up your talk?
answer: None.
Demanding someone take 29 cents on the dollar so that the union, who has an interest junior to the bondholders under the rule of law (remember that??), can get over 50 cents on the dollar is somehow proper government policy?
Amazing.
Posted by: the Truth | May 4, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
You can call it “change” alright but the change is a two-bid dictator (in our case 12 trillion-dollar dictator)using the press in order to attack business and citizens.
This is the “change” mantra we saw with Obama’s communist cousin in Kenya too. They were at least smart enough not to fall for the cousin. Makes me wonder why the media hasn’t talked about Obama’s communist roots and mission.
Posted by: urlistening | May 4, 2009, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
We are a “nation of laws” according to the Moron in Chief when it comes to coddling murdering terrorists who thke joy in the death of women and children but when it comes to the bankruptcy laws we can not only look the other way but sic the “white House Press Corp” on those who still think the Federal law can be relied upon as it has for a century or so. Now to pull this off the Moron in Chief will have to appoint a failed, never tried a case (like himself) politician who got into politics because he/she got thrown out of every courthouse on the planet to the Supreme Court and hope that the strings on the bobblehead don’t show too much.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow | May 4, 2009, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Can you say facist? Join your local TEA party rally on July 4th!!!
Posted by: kevin | May 4, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
urlistening: please (and I’ve very serious) explain to me why you wrote what you did about our Pres and his “communist roots and plans”. When you accuse the media of not writing about it, are you suggesting some kind of plot? Don’t Fox/NY Post/Murdoch, Forbes, National Review and tons of conservative groups have the brains and capacity to write about this satanic plot you appear to assert is happening? If you are going to say silly stuff, please back it up or leave it alone. I’m so sick of hearing this kind of garbage from the right. Big lies, little lies – they are lies just the same.
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
I’m sure the country will be heart broken that the white house played hardball with a handful of holdout vulture funds to avoid taking Chrysler into bankruptcy. At another venue one of their shills is suggesting these guys were “naive investors” when they bought a lot of Chrysler debt at pennies on the dollar. Having got what they want they are going to have to take their chances with the other debtors. Now they are whining about it.
Posted by: john | May 4, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
urlistening: please (and I’ve very serious) explain to me why you wrote what you did about our Pres and his “communist roots and plans”. When you accuse the media of not writing about it, are you suggesting some kind of plot? Don’t Fox/NY Post/Murdoch, Forbes, National Review and tons of conservative groups have the brains and capacity to write about this satanic plot you appear to assert is happening? If you are going to say silly stuff, please back it up or leave it alone. I’m so sick of hearing this kind of garbage from the right. Big lies, little lies – they are lies just the same.
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
The comment made by DC Bullies – Nothing New | May 4, 2009 3:52:00 PM I believe to be an untruth. A Law Firm would not use an ID “DC Bullies” and I am sure they would not misspell simple words, such as “tey” for “they”. Tapper’s recount of this story is only part of what actually went on, he failed to mention that the Firm has included the Threat in the Suit. I am however proud that a member of the MSM would even report this story at all.
Never before has a President fired a CEO, till now. Never has a President put the Unions above the Stakeholders and Vendors, and allow the Union ownership in the company filing for Chapter 11! And for God’s sake, get Pelosi out of office. God forbid something would happen to the president and VP, Pelosi would become President. I do not care for Obama or Biden, but I wish no harm to them.
Posted by: wlennon | May 4, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
They play hardball with investors, but bow down to union members
Posted by: Crazy | May 4, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
jack/kevin – do you understand that your nasty, hostile, mocking tone in your emails is why only 20% of your fellow citizens will now even identify themselves as a Repub? Why independents have fled to supporting Democrats? You may not agree with Barack’s positions, but to ignore his academic achievements and political success is to only make people not take you seriously. Do you not realize this? Do you not care enough about your country to even listen to the opinions of your fellow citizens who disagree with you without dehumanizing and diminishing them?
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm
and how, specifically, did he bow down to unions? do you even know about the concessions the unions made or that their 55% could become zippo if this doesn’t work? do you think that Obama and the Dems have no rationale reasoning for making their decisions? C’mon, people, get real. And if anyone is going to use the word “fascist” or “socialist” please have the the intellectual honesty to tell us what the word means to you. Or you could look it up in the dictionary.
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
After all the lies the White House has told (I won’t hire lobbyists, I won’t sign bills with earmarks or in secret, I won’t raise taxes on those who make less than $250,000, oh I really meant $150,000… no, make that $120,000, I will get rid of corruption in Washington, and my favorite, I will help the unfortunate) I’d believe what ANYONE had to say over Obama.
Posted by: Let Freedom ring | May 4, 2009, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
What a lot of folks don’t get is that those “greedy” investors who are “unwilling to bend” are likely you and me. Anybody that has a 401K. Our retirement was invested into these businesses and suddenly we’re the bad guys who ought to take a 2/3 cut on the dollar for our investment while the UAW sits fat and pretty. People really need to wake up on this demonizing of investment that’s going on in this country.
Posted by: vicki in flyover usa | May 4, 2009, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Please read the definition of fascism and tell me this is not what seems to be the agenda….FASCISM: a gov’t system led by a dicatator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., HHmmm do you think it happens over night?? No, some of us will see it coming before it happens. It started years ago. Who said it was only the current administration?
Posted by: kevin | May 4, 2009, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Also DC Bullies – Nothing New, you may or may not like Bush 41, but he never threatened, he acted and kept us safe if only for the reason terrorists and terrorist countries were afraid of him. I would like to mention that I was a Democrat till Johnson took over and reversed JFK’s intention of getting out of Vietnam.
At least Bush had many Democrats vote for both the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, based on the same Intel he received. But I will have to say I turned against Bush when he began the bail outs, Border issues, and commuting rather than pardoning Campeon and Ramos, and not pardoning former Congressman Jim Traficant(D) who many believe was framed for crimes he didn’t commit.
Posted by: wlennon | May 4, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Is anyone surprised that this nation is being run by the Chicago thugs that so many of us tried to tell you they were? I hope the nation wakes up before it is too late.
Posted by: Ugetwhatuvoted4 | May 4, 2009, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Ugetwhatuvotedfor. U hit it on the head! Too many of them are still on the bandwagon…tons will never find their way off because they are so enthralled with “The Great One” and his teleprompters!
Posted by: Crazy | May 4, 2009, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
bravo mr obama!! chicago politics at its finest!!!!!
just words, just speeches,
roy
Posted by: roy | May 4, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Wow since having the definition of Fascism posted we now have no comments….odd…
Posted by: kevin | May 4, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
Is this the same Thomas Lauria who was a Tobacco Institute spokesman circa 1994 (U.S. News 4/18/94). Thomas Lauria served as assistant to the President of the Tobacco Institute in Washington D.C. in the early 1990s. His responsibilities included handling media inquiries and a limited number of inquiries from the public. Lauria has been deposed in several lawsuits against the tobacco industry. The Tobacco Institute was forced to disband as a term of the 1998 Master Settlement Agreement between 46 state attorneys general and the major American tobacco companies.
hmmmmm
Posted by: davyduck | May 4, 2009, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
I believe the whitehouse’s story, sure I do, I also believe Obama was born in the USA and has a valid birth certificate to prove it.
Posted by: TruckerMatt | May 4, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
Builderburg members Giovanni Agnelli, Honorary Chairman, Fiat SpA, and John
Elkann Vice Chairman, Fiat S.p.A will
profit from the Chrysler and GM deals.
Posted by: Big E | May 4, 2009, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Can you imagine if you invested $50,000 in a fund that you would likely get 60 cents on the dollar for in bankruptcy, but the chosen one decides it should be 29 cents on the dollar. Those fund managers would be facing lawsuits like we have never seen.
They would ask the manager what do you mean that we could have received $30,000 for our $50,000 investment but you are paying us $14,500 instead because Obama says we should take less.
Obama is arrogant, derisive and divisive.
Posted by: Jeff | May 4, 2009, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Should this surprise anyone coming from the Chicago Mob scene? LOL.. DUH how did Obama get elected.. Oh yeah people thought Palin was dumber than Biden. ROFL Biden is proving to be MUCH dumber than Palin and he is an heartbeat from the presidency???
Posted by: ChicagBob | May 4, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Hmmm…what “sacrifices” did the UAW and the government make? The UAW is rewarded for destroying a company by receiving a 55% majority holding (and can anyone explain where the Constitution of the United States gives ANY president the power to make such an award???), and Obama’s Brownshirts are in the driver’s seat (pun intended) of yet another pillar of the American economy. Obama – “CHAINS you can believe in.”
Posted by: Shawn | May 4, 2009, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
Why is this story so hard to believe. The UAW was a huge player in the Hussein campaign…in fact, all union labor was. This guy uses lines like ‘I won’ and ‘don’t think we are not keeping score’. He is paying back all the money he received. My next car will not be American made.
Posted by: Evelyn Sealy | May 4, 2009, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
Lou Grabratzi lives!
Posted by: RecoveringDem | May 4, 2009, 6:42 pm 6:42 pm
Thanks to a brainwashed Democracy, we have shifted from a Republic to an Oligarchy that consists of Unions, GE (NBC&MSNBC) , Al Bore, did I leave any other greedy scoundrels out? We The People need to take back our Country!
If any of you read “The 5000 year leap”,then you know what I’m typing about.
Posted by: OligarchyAmerica | May 4, 2009, 6:45 pm 6:45 pm
Obama is a fascist who is perfectly comfortable attacking Americans with illegal means of extortion but who is uncomfortable with confronting terrorist and leaders of hostile countries. The Manchurian Candidate.
Posted by: student1776 | May 4, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
The largest labor union in the United States is the American Medical Association.
IT jobs went to India because India has superior mathematicians. Chemistry and math are the foundation of medical school training, not that the AMA would ever want you to figure that out.
Some Americans travel to India for open heart surgery that costs a fraction of the cost in the US. They’re called medical tourists.
Many of our US xrays, MRIs, and other radiography procedures should be outsourced to India, for a fraction of a penny per hundred compared to what shows up on your hospital bill in the US. We have the copper wire in place. There should be much much lower charges for xrays, MRIs, and similar procedures. Again, the American Medical Association is the largest labor union in the US.
Posted by: Thniking and Naming | May 4, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
Obama is a cheap snake oil salesman, bought and paid for by the unions and euro-socialists like George Soros. You idiots that voted for him made a huge mistake that is going to cost our country a huge price. Way to go.
Posted by: John Phoenixq | May 4, 2009, 6:53 pm 6:53 pm
I’ve disagreed with just about every notion Obama has had since he got into office. While I can’t believe that he is actively TRYING to ruin America’s economy, I’m hard pressed to see what he would be doing differently if he were.
Posted by: p3orion | May 4, 2009, 7:04 pm 7:04 pm
According to this story, President Obama may have used strong arm tactics to save the auto industry.
Previous administrations tried similar things. First President Clinton pushed them to create 80 mph cars. And shortly after that, President Bush pushed them to kill the project.
Would a true friend give an alcoholic a drink of whiskey? Or would they push them to do the right thing and quit drinking.
President Clinton and President Obama are the true friends of the auto industry. President Bush let them escape their responsibility to invest in fuel efficiency during the times when they had more money than they could spend.
Posted by: kd | May 4, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
Obama is a reflection of the ignorance,
special interest groups more concerned with their personal agend(s) (unions, gays,gobal warming,ACLU,abortion rights,
religion/state separatists, natl. health care,..etc., etc, than our nation, and the anti America outsiders
that fund the propaganda campaign. It is a numbers game…and we..the historic, old fashioned Americans..are the minority. Our values and our country’s foundation have been eroded!!
Our nation is in very serious trouble!!
Posted by: Vet 2 | May 4, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm
Without depositions under oath this amounts to “he said she said” regarding the aledged threat. However we do have Obama on tape denegrating investors as ‘speculators’ whose only sin is demanding their rights under bankruptcy law. As has been pointed out in numerous posts, these evil speculators represent the interests of pensioneers, and retirees. Undermining bankruptcy law is a terrible precedent to set.
As has also been pointed out numerous times…efforts to cancel the rights of bond holders will have serious long term adverse reprocussions by discouraging future investors to buy US bonds.
If this occurs, the Fed will have no choice but printing dollars at a more rapid rate, effectively devaluing the dollar. And OBTW its already starting as the Chinese are dramatically reducing their purchases of our debt and are in fact dumping dollars. The only way to provide the Trillions of dollars that Obama has pledged is to print greenbacks. The result will be hyper-inflation. If you don’t know what that is Google it along with Argentina, Brazil or Germany. Its coming you better prepare yourselves.
And yet inspite of this, the Obama apologists on this blog fail to understand these serious issues, choosing instead to make this an R vs D debate. Its not…its about the future of this country.
Will we remain a capitalist democracy or will we become a socialist state with central planning.
Hopefully 3.5% of those who voted for Obama will realize their mistake and start calling their congressmen so the Hope and Change Express can be derailed before its too late.
Posted by: Lowrider | May 4, 2009, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm
Congrats to you, Jake, for even looking into this story, unlike the rest of the MSM! You seem to be the only one at your place that will seek the truth and not glorify this guy and I applaud you for that.
Obama is going to completely revamp this country into something that we won’t even recognize and he’s going at “full speed”. I certainly hope that the public wakes up soon and sees how much our country is being ruined by this administration. We are being blind-sided by the words that are being used to restructure America, including “universal” healthcare, alias “socialized” medicine. But the socialization doesn’t stop there. If we don’t exert our own “term limits” and vote in 2010, then we don’t have anything more to say.
Posted by: Senior Citizen | May 4, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
mfdesquire wrote, “In a bankruptcy, the hedge funds would have been entitled to about 60 cents on the dollar.”
The subjuntive is inappropriate because Chrysler has in fact filed for bankruptcy. Anyone who is wondering how seriously to take the comments of mfdesquire might want to wait until the bankruptcy court determines how much the hedge funds are owed, and see how that number compares the the 60 cents on the doller that mfdesquire talks about.
Posted by: Kenneth Almquist | May 4, 2009, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
Is there any info available about Obama’s performance in college, law school and teaching position? I find it odd that the mainstream media has not covered this since it would or maybe not back up his reputation for being “brilliant”. I have never heard him discuss a complex idea in any depth or at any length without the tellmeprompter. Bill Clinton, Newt Ginghrich, have shown in depth understanding of complex issues. It doesn’t take brilliance to spend trillions of dollars.
Posted by: Terry | May 4, 2009, 9:16 pm 9:16 pm
How could anyone doubt this? This is their MO. This is what they did to get the AIG executives to return their bonuses. Whether you agree with the bonuses or not, the fact is one group of people were threatened while another (Fannie Mae) got even more bonus money and were completely ignored by the MSM. This is not an administration; it is a fascist regime operating completely outside the bounds of the Constitution.
Posted by: Z | May 4, 2009, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm
Uncle O has taken arrogance to an all new plateau. Can any of you ever remember President Bush saying he would not stand behind any American private citizen? Mr. Lauria’s clients are not the only ones that should be fearful of this (mis)administration. We all should be.
Posted by: abomination | May 4, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
BUFFET REVEALS THE OBAMA PLAN:
The Congressional Budget Office predicts that government debt will peak around 54 percent of GDP in 2011.
But Buffett told CNBC Monday morning that the ratio could surpass 80 percent — unless there are significant spending cuts or tax increases.
After a testy exchange with Sen. Judd Gregg, who suggested that President Obama’s plans to hike federal spending would only increase the nation’s staggering national debt, Buffett relented by stating that, in the end, the U.S. government simply will do what every other government has done in such circumstances.
“A country that continuously expands its debt as a percentage of GDP and raises much of the money abroad to finance that, at some point, it’s going to inflate its way out of the burden of that debt,” Buffett said.
Experience proves that, he points out.
“Every country that has denominated its debt in its own currency and has found itself with uncomfortable amounts of debt relative to the rest of the world, in the end they inflate,” Buffett explains.
“That becomes a tax on everybody that has fixed dollar investments,” said Buffet.
So much for the tax cut on 95% of Americans lie.
NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND LEFTIES?????
Posted by: Lowrider | May 4, 2009, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm
I don’t know any of you nor you me. I employ 36,000 folks in the telecommunications industry. I have decided to shut my doors. I’m not taking any chances and I’m not greedy to the point of placing the business up for sale. I’m not saying this administration would but I’m just not willing to possibly crawl on my belly through sharp glass for Obama’s highly skewed business understanding or the lack thereof. Reasons being is that I built my business from the ground up with no help from anyone but my trusted employees and outstanding international customers.
Let’s take a look at and begin with something very elementary. President Obama, if you’re going to get more focused on the IRS and those who have gamed the system try beginning with the blatant uncreative ways of your own hand selected folks just not paying their taxes like Geithner, Rangel, Richardson, Sibelius, Daschle, etc…
I would say Mr. Obama, you might want to set the example for the rest of America and make sure your advisors are paying their fair share, no? Just a thought.
Posted by: Seymour | May 4, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
It will be a cold day in hell when we buy a vehicle built by the UAW or a company owned by the US government. That’s how you “vote”, with your pocket book.
Posted by: Sue Smith | May 4, 2009, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm
Jake I know you have taken heat for this story. Thank you for doing your job, you are the only one we can count on to tell the whole truth.
Posted by: Tina | May 5, 2009, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Seymour
LOL nice B.S.
Posted by: no thanx | May 5, 2009, 12:32 am 12:32 am
I have a 80,000 person company that made millions under Republican administrations. I was able to pay the lowest wages and was even able to avoid taxes and health care costs. When any of my employees even looked at me cross eyed I fired them. I donated frequently to the Bush campaigns and I attained ‘pioneer’ status.
I was able to make many more millions by getting no bid contracts for the Iraq war. Even though many of my employees died over there it was always easy to replace them with foreign workers.
Now, I am forced to shut my doors, and liquidate my very profitable business, as I don’t like the liberal socialist Obama. I will not stand with his version of America, that being I will have to pay taxes.
Posted by: X | May 5, 2009, 12:45 am 12:45 am
I am very impressed with the new political awareness of some here, protesting with ‘tea party’ gatherings, threats to secede from America, protests by not buying products of certain companies, ‘taking to the streets’ to express’ your opinion, not trusting the press..
wow, one might think it was the 60′s all over again….
but you must be careful..,and you should be thankful that a Democrat is in office at the moment, otherwise you could end up like the students at Kent State if a Republican was in office.
or, you could be arrested at RNC convention pre-emptively by the police in Minn. for even thinking about protesting..
Posted by: Non-Revisionist 33 | May 5, 2009, 1:29 am 1:29 am
Two things:
It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.
If you don’t like change, you’re going to like irrelevance even less.
Posted by: Mypointisurnuts | May 5, 2009, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Well Jake it would seem to me that he got what he paid for, so why is he crying about now.
Posted by: don | May 5, 2009, 10:14 am 10:14 am
Now that the 100 days honeymoon is over for the Obama Admin, I think we will see the full force of Chicago style politics unleased. (Rhambo strongarming Israel, today)
Posted by: Terry | May 5, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am
I’m now making the transition from worrying that this is administration might ideologically extreme to worrying that it might be just plain evil.
Posted by: Lester Hunt | May 5, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Jake -
Worse than your usual load of BS.
But then you’ve never let a little thing like FACTS interfere with your “reporting” … or eating your chicken sadwich, now have you?
Posted by: cbaskcus | May 5, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am
Obama is not change he is a dictator. The fawning by the american media is leading us into a dictatorship. The real change is coming soon when we are bankrupt with complete out of touch moron in office. Chrylser bond holders had to give up far more than the bums at UAW. UAW GETTING PAID 80% OF THEIR WAGES TO SIT ON THEIR BUTTS AND THEY GET THE STUPID COMPANY. AFTER THEY LET FIAT GET OWNERSHIP FOR FREAKING NOTHING. ONLY A COMMUNITY ACTIVIST COULD COME UP WITH THIS. DOESN’T MATTER BANKRUPTCY WILL KILL CHRYSLER ANYHOW. FOR THAT WE CAN THANK THOSE BRAVE BONDHOLDERS. LET THE DEAD DIE
Posted by: Jeff | May 5, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am
GM and Chrysler will now never be viable, profitable companies. They will become money pits for our tax dollars because they are too important to the democratic party. I will now purchase any other brand than the socialist party cars that will be manufactured.
Posted by: Eric the Red | May 5, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm
Obama and friends seem to believe they are above any and all laws when they tell companies what to do……sadly Obama isn’t able to deal with people who disagree with him…..I hope others will speak up..LOUDLY…to stop this guy. HE IS a threat to our way of life….call me paranoid…but you better start listening before you won’t have ANY choices……THEY HAVE THE POWER AND THEY PLAN TO USE IT……how long depends on YOU and ME!!!
Posted by: tom | May 5, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
At this moment you can bet that the servile swine of the WH Press Corps are collecting dirt on Case and White Attorney Thomas Lauria, his family, his law firm, his video store rentals, his tax records, his donations and anything else they can dig up. They will be assisted by govt people with access to private records.
Rahm Emmanuel, who made millions within a few months of retiring from the Clinton WH seems to be another generic little jerk with a napoleon complex. His fingerprints, along with ethics-challenged Steve Rattner (paid off NY pension fund agent, claims ignorance)are all over this.
Posted by: Moose | May 5, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
This is in keeping with most of what the big “0″ does.When he was asked about his qualifications as president his campaign went all out to paint anyone who wants to know if the president was born in America as wearing tin foil hats. He has strongarmed and threatened his way into the office he was installed in and now is going to try his best to completely bankrupt the federal government and at the same time continue the mission toward global currency and global government.
I have a friend whose retirement is dependednt upon returns from an investment in Occidental fund. They are the people that the big “0″ doesn’t stand with and will lose much of their hard earned money because their retirement invesments are not something the big “0″ will stand with.
Americans will long for the days America was in good standing in the world and our dollar was worth something.They will speak about the America before 0
Posted by: John C. | May 5, 2009, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
So it appears there are corroborators to this story.
How bout an update Jake?
Who could doubt that Barry is a slimeball? I guess, the most partisan liberal jerks would.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E. Buzz Miller | May 5, 2009, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm
This is Extortion, plain and simple. Extortion is a crime, a very, very bad crime!
Posted by: RobbieK | May 5, 2009, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm
Tom Lauria, a lawyer representing “a small group of speculators” who forced Chrysler into bankruptcy because they wanted a few more cents on the dollar, made a stunning allegation against the Obama White House on a conservative talk show last Friday.
Lauria claimed that one of his former clients — Perella Weinberg — withdrew its opposition to the government deal because the White House threatened “that the full force of the White House press corps would destroy its reputation if it continued to fight.”
Lauria was not a first-hand witness to the alleged threat. Both the parties involved — the White House and Perella — disputed Lauria’s accusation. Nevertheless, ABC’s Jake Tapper reported Lauria’s claims, and his story was propagated on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh’s show.
Now, Tom Lauria is clamming up, refusing to stand by his earlier accusations against the White House. Neil Cavuto pressed him last night on Fox Business:
LAURIA: I have a former client in connection with this matter who is a client in connection with other matters who doesn’t appreciate all the attention that’s been brought to bear on that. So I have no further comment on that topic.
CAVUTO: Alright, well, this issue was raised by you. And now you’re not gonna talk about it?
LAURIA: I have no further comment. [...] I really don’t want to talk about this topic at this point. [...]
CAVUTO: You started out making a comment, and now you dropped it. It’s just weird, that’s all I’m saying.
This morning on Fox News, host Megyn Kelly tried another approach. “Can I ask you this? Have you made public statements that are untrue?” Lauria would not even dispute that he is lying. Instead, he said, “The truth is gonna come out.”
Lauria was asked eight separate times in two appearances on Fox to explain his earlier comments. And eight separate times, he refused to stand by his story.
The right-wing media will undoubtedly continue pushing the story, despite the fact that there are now no sources who say it is credible or defend it.
Posted by: Charles | May 5, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm
Perella Weinberg said in a statement that the firm decided to back the government-proposed settlement Thursday afternoon, AFTER Mr. Obama criticized the lenders in harsh terms.
“In considering the President’s words and exercising our best investment judgment, we concluded that the risks of potentially severe capital loss that could arise from fighting this in bankruptcy court far outweighed any realistic potential upside,” the firm said, suggesting that its decision was based on financial calculations.
Charles, I’m sure that their decision had nothing to do with the fact that Rohm Emanuel previously worked for Perella Weinberg, and is now the Obama Hitman, not exactly known for his tact. I’m sure that it had nothing to do with the fact that Perella Weinberg is advising the Obama Administration on the disposal of toxic assets.
I’m sure there was no undue influence placed on them by members of the Obama Administration. No, I’m sure it had everything to do with the fiduciary responsibility they have to the clients they represent.
Yeah that’s the ticket!!!
Posted by: lowrider | May 5, 2009, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
This story doesn’t make any sense. Tapper fails to point out that he himself is a _member_ of the White House press corps that spends its time razzing Press Secretary Gibbs almost every day — fairly in some cases or more often, unfairly.
This story sounds like yet another variation on the “liberal media” myth: In this case, that the White House press corps must be fawning over Obama even though enyone who’s seen their press sessions with Gibbs (including Tapper) should know it’s not true.
It doesn’t say much for Tapper’s critical reasoning skills that he hasn’t considered this strong indication that he’s swallowed a bogus story.
Aside from Tapper, nobody in the media but the lunatic fringe of the far right media (Fox, Limbaugh, blogs, etc.) seems to have given this story any credit at all.
Posted by: Len | May 5, 2009, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
Please tell me what the lawyer had to gain?
Posted by: tom | May 5, 2009, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm
I doubt that the secured creditors would have received any more if govt had not subsidized bankruptcy. The hedge funds should have purchased more debt if they wanted to control the vote.
Posted by: wgcamp | May 5, 2009, 7:06 pm 7:06 pm
Len sez:
This story doesn’t make any sense. Tapper fails to point out that he himself is a _member_ of the White House press corps that spends its time razzing Press Secretary Gibbs almost every day — fairly in some cases or more often, unfairly.
Len read the name of the blog:
Political Punch
Power, pop, and probings from ABC News Senior White House Correspondent Jake Tapper
Posted by: Lowrider | May 6, 2009, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Listen to Frank Beckman’s full 10 minute interview of attorney Tom Lauria that lead to the article by Jake Tapper. Then decide if you object to the admiinistration’s strong-arm tactics.
The threat to use the White House press corps to destroy reputations is interesting and disturbing. Of much greater concern is the Obama administration’s complete lack of respect for the U.S. Constitution. They have no respect for contract rights and they (executive branch) are intruding on judicial functions and powers.
Obama is following the path of Hugo Chavez. Use propaganda disseminated by a controlled media to smear an unpopular target, then ignore the law and constitutional protections to take private property and transfer it to the government or favored groups (labor). Liberals may cheer today’s targets of this abuse (hedge funds, business, Wall Street), but think of how this misuse of executive power can be turned against you.
Posted by: Will | May 6, 2009, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm
Attack Tapper and Lauria, but in light of the President’s very public attack of Lauria’s client and similarly situated Chrysler investors, there is ample reason to conclude Lauria’s contention is true. Lauria claims his client was told if it did not go along with the President’s restructuring plan, the White House would destroy its reputation. President Obama then very publicly does exactly that.
Posted by: matt curtis | May 6, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
I Own Chrysler Debt & Have Lost A Significant Amount of My Own Retirement But Obama Clearly Does Not Care About Me. It is Obvious That the Obama Administration does not care at all about Investors. Ironically-Millions of Retirees Pensions Are Invested in Hedge Funds-but This President is a Populist President Who Will Do Anything He Thinks Makes Him Look Good. It’s Quite Sad Really-He Destroyed Millions of Peoples Retirement Accounts Who Held Chrysler Debt While Appearing to “Save The People”.
Posted by: Stanley | May 6, 2009, 7:55 pm 7:55 pm
Its just like everything else Obama is doing…..DO IT MY WAY OR I WILL DESTROY YOU!!! If people cannot see his goal from his agendas now, it will soon be to late. Obama is taking America down the road to destroying freedoms as we have known freedom in the past. Once he has everyone relying on government to give us our needs, then you can bet your life he will be the dictator he wants to be. He has all the ear markings of being a true narcissist.
Posted by: Jerry | May 7, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
Could there have been any real doubt or any surprise how any situation dealing with the interests of a national union’s livelihood would not involve some sort of dirty tricks, intimidation, unlawful acts, undue pressure or strong arm tactics . . . especially if the honor of the Chicago political heritage is in play. And, as the financial, monetary and economic numbers really get twisted, turned and falter in a disfavorable way for the American people, how will the unions and the administrations behavior then be expressed.
Posted by: rbblum | May 8, 2009, 3:07 am 3:07 am
It is humorous to read above that if you protested under a Republican President you might “end up like the students at Kent State.” First of all, as a Kent State grad, the comment is a bit offensive. Secondly, we did have a Republican President previously, there were tons of public protests against him and the war, and not ONE of those protesters was shot!
Secondly the protests at the RNC (to say “convention” again would be redundant) were not peaceful. Those that were not protesting peacefully were arrested. Those that were, were not arrested.
The level of intellectual dishonesty is disheartening!
Posted by: MarkV | May 28, 2009, 10:28 am 10:28 am
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Posted by: Felix Chesterfield | July 21, 2009, 8:17 am 8:17 am
Their articles here are a platform for policy debate, and discussing other developments in Westminster.
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Rakesh
Posted by: Investment Advice | September 5, 2009, 9:25 am 9:25 am
At this moment you can bet that the servile swine of the WH Press Corps are collecting dirt on Case and White Attorney Thomas Lauria, his family, his law firm, his video store rentals, his tax records, his donations and anything else they can dig up. They will be assisted by govt people with access to private records.
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They will be assisted by govt people with access to private records.
Posted by: Credit Solutions | February 7, 2010, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm
It is humorous to read above that if you protested under a Republican President you might “end up like the students at Kent State.” First of all, as a Kent State grad, the comment is a bit offensive. Secondly, we did have a Republican President previously, there were tons of public protests against him and the war, and not ONE of those protesters was shot!
Posted by: suvie | May 15, 2010, 6:39 am 6:39 am
Great post. Any parent of a son or daughter with scarring-type acne should
pay special attention to this one. Nothing we do in medicine is not without
some risk. Sorry about the double negative. I intend to look at the functional brain
imaging study in detail (so many projects, so little time). The study design is everything.
Sometimes pilot studies are done simply to know whether to look at the question further.
Quite a few teenagers become depressed because of their acne, independent of treatment.
Posted by: suvie | May 15, 2010, 6:45 am 6:45 am
You have great post everyone. Actually, I prefer myself to focused on bankruptcy matter because I can certainly relate on it completely. Bankruptcy is not something I recommend any more than I would recommend divorce. Are there times when good people see no way out and file bankruptcy? Yes, but I will still talk you out of bankruptcy if given the opportunity. Few people who have been through bankruptcy would report that it is a painless wiping-clean of the slate, after which you merrily trot off into your future to start fresh.
Don’t let anyone fool you. I have been through bankruptcy and have worked with bankruptcy for decades, and it is not a place you want to visit. Bankruptcy is listed in the top five life-altering negative events that we can go through, along with divorce, severe illness, disability, and loss of a loved one. I would never say that bankruptcy is as bad as losing a loved one, but it is life-altering and leaves deep wounds both to the psyche and the credit report.
Posted by: Jeffgriffin | October 28, 2010, 4:45 am 4:45 am