Facsimile Constitution Gets Starring Role in Presidential Speech

Can the President really stand in from of the ‘Constitution’ and really defend undefinite detention without trial?
After all, he was supposed to have taught const. law.

Indefinite detention without trial does not offend agains the constitution at all when applied to combatants, either lawful or unlawful. (See, e.g., the 400,000 Germans imprisoned without trial on US soil until the end of hostilities in 1945.)
Obama found it offensive only during the campaign; now his policy cannot be distinguished from that of the president who made us safe. That is a good sign altogether, although it does reveal a certain very unattractive hypocrisy.

Well we Know the Last President and Aministration Didnt Up hold The Constitution They shredded it!

The Constitution is a pesky constraint on what needs to be done… There is much meaning in keeping the lights dim on it.
Great blog Mr. Tapper!
You are one of the few journalists who actually fulfills the responsibilities of your job!
WJP

GREAT job on reporting this! I noticed it from the photos posted that the lights were too bright for that room, I have been there! So I dug for a story, yours is the only one! Thanks for reporting the facts.

Well we Know the Last President and Aministration Didnt Up hold The Constitution They shredded it!
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And hopefully, it’ll be returned to its former state before being systematically torn up.

It’s ironic to have a Constitution there since Obama has run roughshod over it.
That the Constitution is phony is an appropriate metaphor.

Obama must be totally frustrated.
His only experience is brainwashing college kids and voting present 130 times in the Senate.
Making real life or death decisions to protect a nation–above his paygrade.

“The question remains, to what extent will Obama actually honor and respect the Constitution with his presidential decsions?”
He’s already blown away property rights, kat. It’s a violation of the Fifth amendment.
As for national security, he has almost completely and totally adopted Bush’s policies.
That either means those who scream that Bush violated the Constitution are dead wrong, or Obama is as wrong as Bush allegedly was.
It also means that Obama was entirely dishonest with his supporters.

He’s incredibly popular, the American people are happy with his work so far and his oppositional face is a bloated talking head who is despised by most of the country.
He is fortunate thus far to have a mostly complicit press who carry his water for him and not only fail to report accurately, they intentionally shield him. It is the most dramatic dereliction of duty ever on the part of the media.
On national security, he is Bush.
No one points it out beyond these ethereal walls.

“”Well we Know the Last President and Aministration Didnt Up hold The Constitution They shredded it!”
Name four examples.”
It used to be name 1 example.
I guess drjohn knows of the easy 3.

Obama needed a teleprompter to acknowledge 4-5 members of his administration.
And he still got Robert Gates’ name wrong!
It’s no wonder why Obama chose gaffe prone Biden to overshadow his own mistakes.

dr.john
re: On national security, he is Bush.
if Obama starts a needless war for political gain, then you’ll have something to compare him to Bush.

Name four examples.
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Read your fourth ammendment rights on privacy rights and on cruel and unusual punishment. I’d like to give you an example of one cited by Sy Hersch and Salon– women detainees who were forced to watch the unspeakable violations of their sons.

ohblahblah standing in front of the constitution….subtle. Surprised he didn’t scratch his cheek with his middle finger (again) when he mentioned for the umpteenth time the previous administration in this speech.
Odd how he speaks of adhering to the rule of law..now. Might want to ask the Chrysler preferred stock shareholders, and further the Chrysler dealership owners about how much jugears respects the rule of law.
As for jugears vs. Cheney:
kid, meet Grownup.

How can you compare obama to Bush
a-He respects and Upholds the LAW And Constitution
b- He Has ended the Torture
c- He wants to Shut down Gitmo a Experiment that has Ruined our Good name
d He Hasnt started a Lying Illegal War
One last Thing He hasnt Had a Terriost attack happen on His watch !

“Yes closing Gitmo, outlawing torture and shifting our focus military focus to Afghanistan from Iraq are all Bush policies.
The lesson as always? Right winger lie.”
Keep dreaming, Ryan.
Maybe you missed it, but yesterday Gibbs said the decision to close Gitmo was “hasty.” Today Obama said NOTHING of a dealine to close Gitmo.
Outlawing torture? The Bush administration gave up waterboarding in 2005. Obama is waiting for a report from the panel he created for alternative interrogation techniques. Just as with warrantless wiretaps and rendition and indefinite detention, Obama will go back to most of the EIT’s used aleady once the panel “recommends” it.
Iraq has been shutting down for some time and it was always Bush’s plan. More emphasis was already happening in Afghanistan.
Do you think Obama will really invade Pakistan if it falls to Al Qaida?
You’re fast and loose with facts, Ryan, and quick to throw that liar thing around. Yet it’s clear that you do that when you are losing the debate.

This is from NPR
“The National Journal is out with its 27th Annual vote ratings and it ranked Sen. Barack Obama as the most liberal Senator in the entire Senate. (His first year he was 16th, and last year he was 10th.) But he wasn’t alone in his shift to the left. Sen. Hillary Clinton was 16th herself in 2007 after being 32nd in 2006.”

President Obama speaking in the echo-filled chamber with the words “THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERCA” etched in marble behind him were not accidental.
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My it is clear that you are not trying to reach me.
What some people pass off as reporting. That is all you can come up with out of a 50 min relational speech and a 35 min redo? I would be embarrassed.

Since you are a child, I will hold your hand drjohn.
“Today Obama said NOTHING of a dealine to close Gitmo.”
Did Bush ever make any mention of closing Gitmo? No.
That would be a difference in policy.
“Outlawing torture? The Bush administration gave up waterboarding in 2005.”
President Barack Obama took a major step toward undoing the interrogation and detention policies of the Bush administration on Thursday, issuing four executive orders that lay out an unequivocal path to closing the Guantanamo Bay detention facility, constructing a new legal and policy architecture for terrorism detainees, and ending the CIA’s so-called “enhanced interrogation” regime.
That would be a difference in policy.
“Iraq has been shutting down for some time and it was always Bush’s plan.”
The draw down of troops came about because of domestic political pressure from Obama and the Iraqi government.
Bush’s withdraw plan is very similar to what Obama put forth 2 years ago.
“More emphasis was already happening in Afghanistan.”
Not nearly to the degree that Obama seeks to do.
Again this is a change in policy.
So drjohn assertion that Obama’s and Bush’s national security polciies are the same is false.
The lesson as always? Right wingers lie.

Dear partisan water carriers,
The endless debate of who’s worse: Bush or Obama is meaningless to millions of Americans. The answer is BOTH are horrible. I acknowledge that Bush was terrible. I didn’t vote for him. He’s gone. But his policies and shoddy governance remain, now at the hands of Obama and company.
LET’S NOT REPEAT HIS MISTAKES!!
Obama needs to answer to what is right and what is Constitutional, not be weighed against Bush and merely be equally or slightly less corrupt and incompetent. The fact that comparison to Bush is your only defense of him is PATHETIC and incredibly alarming.

Obama Didnt Nationalize any Banks If I remember correctly That was Bush and Paulson on their Knees Begging Congress for the Bailout the Tarp Before Obama took Office I belive the Socialism Of Nationalizing Banks Happened On Bushes Watch As well As 911!

“Obama Didnt Nationalize any Banks If I remember correctly”
Obama won’t let them pay the TARP money back. Now he wants to control the compensation of all financial services, not just those of bankers.
Obama took 8% of Chrysler and is calling all the shots. He will soon own 50% of GM.

The thing I noticed most about POTUS was his almost scolding presentation at certain points.. like, remember, I am not just an inexperienced politician, I am the POTUS.. very stern.. probably the only part of this that wasn’t carefully staged.
Like he loses his fake cool and resorts to an animal backed in the corner attitude. I never thought that a non-entity like Cheney could smoke POTUS out of his hole.

Thanks for demonstrating the lie that “Obama was the most liberal Senator based on his record.”
From the National Journal:
“The ratings rank lawmakers on how they vote relative to each other on a conservative-to-liberal scale in both the Senate and the House. The scores are based on the members’ votes in three areas: economic issues, social issues, and foreign policy.”
HOW THEY VOTE, Ryan. It seems to me that that’s a measure of one’s record, but perhaps not in your bizarro world.

Yoo hoo, three guys were waterboarded. They did not force confessions out of them. They got intel.
Come on, kat, get yourself some facts. Don’t go Ryan on me.
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Listen to Cheney. He’s certainly conceeded in his defense of torture that more “three guys” were waterboarded. The facts are intractable and emerging everyday. I’d suggest you wakeup from the sleep walking.

“He’s certainly conceeded in his defense of torture that more “three guys” were waterboarded.”
Quotes, please. Citations.

Posted by: Ranger | May 21, 2009 2:47:27 PM
We’e talking Gitmo. And official policy.
kat has a tendency to conflate up her facts. I am not defending Abu Ghraib. Not a chance.

“Right wingers lie”
Let me help you with this sentence frament:
“Right wingers lie awake at night wondering how 53% of voters could be hood-winked by this fraud.”
There you go.

“Based on that right wingers claim Obama has the most liberal record in the Senate.”
If not Obama, then who? Let’s be honest, it’s not a stretch to believe he’s in the top 5.
It’s too bad there wasn’t a “Senators most qualified to be President” ranking. Would be curious to see where The Big O would rank…

“He’s certainly conceeded in his defense of torture that more “three guys” were waterboarded”
What was most surprising about Cheney;s speech?
The explanation of what terror he felt and how that directed his future policies.
The US tortured people because 5 deferrment Cheney got scared.

The Whole Problem With Cheney is He Knows He and Bush and The Whole Bush admin Failed on Keeping us safe Because 911 Happened on their Watch So the Man went off the Paranoid Deep End acting Irrational And Please One right Winger tell me Bush/Cheney was Not aware Of Bin Laden I beg of you! They were Not Aware of Bin Ladens Threat?

Simply amazing that Obama has the nerve to accuse others of fearmongering in order to keep GITMO open.
That is exactly what he did to rush through his $700 billion stimulus bill(that no one read) and put the next generation in tremendous debt.
And all to support his agenda.
To take over banks and the auto industry that he says he doesn’t want to run.

“They weren’t policy, Ryan, and to suggest that they were is pretty low, even for you.”
Yeah better to blame guardsmen then the cowards in the Bush admin like Cheney
How low of me.
On May 7, 2004, International Committee of the Red Cross Operations Director Pierre Krähenbühl stated that the ICRC’s inspection visits to Coalition detention centers in Iraq did “not allow us to conclude that what we were dealing with… were isolated acts of individual members of coalition forces. What we have described is a pattern and a broad system.” He went on to say that some of the incidents they had observed were “tantamount to torture”
Rather interviewed Army Reserve Staff Sgt. Chip Frederick, a participant in the abuse, whose civilian job was as a corrections officer at a Virginia prison. Frederick stated, “We had no support, no training whatsoever. And I kept asking my chain of command for certain things … like rules and regulations,” says Frederick. “And it just wasn’t happening.” Frederick’s video diary, sent home from Iraq, provided some of the images used in the story.
Sgt. Ivan Frederick sitting on an Iraqi detainee between two stretchers
In the diary are listed detailed, dated entries that chronicle abuse and names, for example,
They stressed him out so bad that the man passed away. The next day the medics came in and put his body on a stretcher, placed a fake I.V. in his arm [to suggest he died under medical care] and took him away. This OGA (other governmental agency) [prisoner] was never processed and therefore never had a number.
—Ivan Frederick
and, “MI (Military Intelligence) has been present and witnessed such activity. MI has encouraged and told us great job [and] that they were now getting positive results and information.”

“Right wingers lie awake at night wondering….how bad is 2010 going to be with Steele at the helm, Rush as the face and the base continuing to shrink even as it becomes more shrill.”
Not worried about it at all. Looking forward to 2010.
tjp612
a.k.a. “self described expert in macroeconomics”

Nothing like standing in front of the very document Obama is trying to usurp and destroy!! How picturesque!! Hows about we park a terrorist in the Lincoln Bedroom and see if Barry is keen on the idea of his new roommate!
Just consider that the chickens have come home to roost for Barry and this can be chalked up as another broken promise to the Far Left Tweekers!
“Happy Days are here again……..”

DR JOHN
I am Simply asking Bush was The President Bush Knew of Bin Laden and His Threats It took years For Bin laden to Plan that Attack why did Bush Ignore the warnings?

“Ryan, you are as wrong about this as you have been wrong about pretty much everything this afternoon.”
Because Steele has done just a fab job so far?
Rush is not the face of the party as 1 GOP elected official after another apologizes and kisses his ring?
And GOP self id is not at its lowest point in decades?

“The President Bush Knew of Bin Laden and His Threats It took years For Bin laden to Plan that Attack why did Bush Ignore the warnings”
Terrorism and responding to it were a low priority for the Bush admin.
Which is why they so overreacted in the wake of 9/11.
They had to cover up their incompetence with a veneer of resolve.

We should all thank them for keeping up that “veneer of resolve” for 7 1/2 years and while we rightwingers ourselves made a lot of rude comments over Clinton’s incompetence in the road to 9/11, the record shows very little from White House insulting his predecessor unlike the approach from the supposed cool Prez we have now.

So much liberal misinformation, so little time.
Bush couldn’t do squat for Chrysler, AIG, et al without a complicit Pelosi/Reid Congress. POTUS doesn’t hold the purse strings, Congress does.
Let’s say Bush knew date certain that 9/11 would happen on that day, and from those airports (he didn’t, but I’ll play along with your fantasy). What would the left’s reaction have been if he:
Had the jetliners shot down before the impacts?
Closed air travel prior to 9/11?
Prevented the hijackers from boarding the planes when the only crime up till then was that some had overstayed their visa?
Profiled 18-40 year old muslim men and subjected them to extra scrutiny before they could board an airliner?
Inquiring minds want to know!

The Constitution was fake just like the President standing in front of it.

Does newly-appointed SecDef Bill Gates have any comment on the president’s speech?

Light damages the real document. It’s only common sense to pull out the fake.

“I agree somewhat, but how does the Constitution apply to citizens of other countries, taken on foreign soil”
So the concept of natural rights belonging to all human beings was just a bunch of hooey?

On May 21, 2009, the RNC tweeted an out of context quote from Barack Obama regarding a flaw in the constitution. The “fundamental flaw” Barack Obama was referring to was slavery.
2010 is gonna be fun.

What difference does it make what was posted….Obama and his ilk have little regard for the Constitution anyway….
Too bad he didn’t take time to study it some while he was there.

The teleprompter also told him to forget the defense secretary’s name.
And Islamic radicals were arrested in NY today for plotting to bomb synagogues, which was perhaps a more appropriate and inconvenient backdrop for yet another meaningless speech that changes nothing.
It’s been a long day. Give the guy a break, Jake.

You don’t need the constitution to know this government is borrowing and wasting way too much, taking away too much freedom, and threatening too many industries and on and on.

Does the One do ANYTHING that is not staged for his political enhancement?

Whoop! And here I thought Obama calling his Secretary of Defense “William Gates” rather than his REAL NAME of Robert Gates, was going to be it for the bad news coming from The Clown’s speech.
Oh, and the speech sucked, too. Cheney should have run against him in 2008: he wold have whooped Obama’s arse.

Cheney 2, Obama -1

It’s time to start the impeachment of this President before he destroys our Republic. HELLO?

The Revolution is coming…

Lest we forget… hugh humm (had to clear my throat) who’s to blame??? Or at least in part, keep in mind this was a BI-PARTISAN effort to make homes more affordable, they on the HILL are all to blame…
The current mortgage crisis came about in large part because of Clinton-era government pressure on lenders to make risky loans in order to “make homeownership more affordable for lower-income Americans and those with a poor credit history,” the DC Examiner notes today. “Those steps encouraged riskier mortgage lending by minimizing the role of credit histories in lending decisions, loosening required debt-to-equity ratios to allow borrowers to make small or even no down payments at all, and encouraging lenders the use of floating or adjustable interest-rate mortgages

It’s funny math to believe that an increase in gas milage to 35MPG along with an $1800 increase to the cost of a car will provide a savings by a decrease in gas purchased. WE all know that once the FEDERAL & STATE governments loose tax $/gallon WE will at least see a a coprresponding increase in TAXES. SAVINGS, I don’t think so. WHAT ABOUT TRUCKS THAT GET <10MPG???

Hey Jeffrey King,
How do you expect us stand by to “Let Obama get started” when that Socialist is trying to RUIN our economy. It seems he is even worse then probably another one of your heroes, Jimmy Carter. We are going to be in a BIG mess that hopefully someone else will fix in 3 1/2 plus years.
You are also DEAD Wrong about calling Former President Bush and Vice President Cheney “crooks who just left the whitehouse”. You must be a big time LIBERAL and are eating up the fact that he is trying to tear down the good that made this country the GREATEST ever.
I will pray for you and your kind.

When I was growing up, I read stories about Robinhood and his Merry Men. I thought it was just a fairy tale. But lo and behold, he is real. Take from the rich and give to the “poor”. Now it is Obamahood and his Merry Men, Women and Inbetweens. Let’s be Frank about that. Theft is theft no matter who does it. But to be polictical correct, theft is named taxes.

Must be nice to be young, living off the fat of the land, someone else serving in the military to keep your sorry butt free. Keep going to school, living off your relatives and the government, but someday the party will be over and you won’t be so happy about the collosal deficit spending Obama and team have dumped on Americans.

Obama is the most arrogant, self centered president in the nation’s history. The only thing he knows how to do is blame Bush. I also resent him being referred to as “brilliant”. It doesn’t take a “rocket scientist” to go through law school. I had a law professor tell us this country was being run be “C” students. I think he was being to kind, because I’d give them a “D-”.

This picture of him using the constitution is a big jump from the one I keep on my desk top Sen Harkin Steak-fry in Iowa during the primary last Jan. Obama forgot to put his hand on his heart “First impression are lasting impressions” It is one of the reason I don’t trust this Son of Soros. ” if you don’t stand for something you will fall for anything”
Dee, Az

Hey Jeffery King… let’s at least jump off the cliff before we decide whether it a smart thing to do or not. After all maybe there will be something we will see on the way down that will make it worth while! We may survive it. Why not try it first without thinking about it. HOw bad can it be? You already know what it’s like to not jump so why not give jumping off a cliff a chance before you criticize it.
Critical thinking, what’s it good for!

I perdict 2010 will be the telling point in the Obama presidency. If the republicans win 10 to 12 seats Obama is a bad president, If the dems win 2 to 5 seats that means only that he has everyone snowed.

Love all the remarks. I sat in awe at Cheney’s speech. I actually felt like I was sitting at the grown-ups table as he spelled out “in detail” what the Bush administration accomplished and why. Our poor country has a leader now who has no clue the future impact he has dumped on us. Tax and spend is no solution. Sadly, the news media has a love affair with this idiot and it turns my stomach. What a pompus, arrogant goofball!

To All
Our political aristocracy, controlled and subsidized by world bank directors, has systematically sandwiched in laws and policy over the last sixty years to destroy this republic by the end of 2009. The confident arrogance in which they lie and mislead citizens is a ruse to sway focus from obvious results of the “FINAL” impending bills in congress at this time.
After inception of the “FED” and many years of slipping into office corrupt leaders, enactments started to befall us with Eisenhower’s “No examining Treasury Books”. From there it escalated through every Presidency until Obama who is pulling it all together by rushing, via coercion, “sight unseen” bills past the few honorable representatives left on Capitol Hill. None dare call it treason.
The bottom lines are verifiable through googling specific topics and scrutinizing both comments and facts from the many sources available. While we still can.
1. Total destruction of “Free Enterprise” as a productive means of economic stability and solvency of the Dollar. Check out the “Already used AMERO” to China and the negative effects of NAFTA and Supply side Economics.
2. Socialistic values that impede; quality product & education, enhanced skills levels, job promotion, freedom of choice, etc. perpetuated by government supported unions.
3. Containment of the sick, elderly and destitute inclusive of “Flu Victims”. FEMA Camps & Bush Bills of 2003 and 2007. Note the blatant disregard of the Constitution by Bush, quickly followed by Obama.
4. Be concerned of the many subversive factions on American Soil, supported by taxes, which are expanding with chaotic potential to further support Chaney propaganda.
We already have an alternative Government; it’s named the CFR, and has been on our payroll for many years. It is comprised of all the supporters of corruption for decades.
The FBI may be the only department left to incarcerate the tyrannical powers to be and their “Oath Violating” dependants in congress. We can only hope.

Hey Jeffrey King, the democrats are the ones to blame for this mess! Democrats forced banks to lend money out willy-nilly to anyone who had a pulse! Get your facts straight. I was intigued by Obamas’ “lets come together” during the first ten minutes of his administration. I wanted to support him! However, he has done nothing but embrace the looneys on the left and their(read his)agenda! He will go down in history as the most unsuccessful president of all time! Taxes on top of taxes! Give me a break! Where are we now? Three TRILLION? My God man get a grip! I bailed on Bush when he signed the first 900 BILLION! If we don’t stop this, we’re toast! It may be too late already!! What, we’ll just say we don’t owe it? Hello WAR with China? We’ve just borrowed our way into third world! Ever wonder how it was in Rome when they slipped into oblivion? Just watch the next twenty years if we don’t stand up and reverse out of control entitlements and bailouts of businesses weiged down by union workers. Let ‘em fail! That’s Capitalism and that’s the way it works! Don’t just swallow this nonsense! What about the BILLIONS given to GM? They still went under! Where’s the money? Where is ALL the money!!!! Billions to ACORN? Where’s the money!!!!!

Those are great comments. I’am afraid of something, probably should not write what it is. I am afraid that Mr. Obama will worm himself in a constituional loop hole (as he has been doing for the last five months) and will legally make himself a dictator. He is sly, deceiving, being deceived, and without conscious. I also believe He does have power over him from the pit of hell. This country probably will not have the opportunity to have a democratic election in 3-1/2 years. May God help us!!!!!

My father and daughter fought for this great country and I was very proud of this country. Now with what Obama is doing to this country is a crime. Why can’t something be done to stop this madness. When he did his speach in front of our Constitution that our country was founded on and fought for, it makes me sick. I write to congress and the senate every week with nothing being done to change things. What is wrong with everyone. I use to watch the TV stars and liked watching their talent, but now they are using that to make the American public change values and what we have stood for. I know longer watch them or the news shows. I watch Fox news because they are the only ones reporting the truth.

President Obama is changing our country and not for the better. We must ban together as a country and let our politicians know that we do not like the path they are taking us on. I am so ashamed of our media and our Congress. They just sit there and go along with the destruction of our country. I hope History judges Pres. Obama and this Congress harshly. They will richly deserve it. I cry for my country and feel so sad that so many Americans have been deceived and they just follow the Liberal drumbeat. I hope we wake up before its to late.

It is about time that people figured the great imposter out. There is a lot to learn about him and I doubt he is even a naturalized citizen…. He is a phony and he will ruin this country. To stand in front of the constitution he has mocked is a shame..He is not qualified under the constitution to be president as he has not shown his birth certificate and refuses to do so. Congress comitted treason when they did not challenge his qualifications.

It sounds like we all no where we want to go.They question is how do we all get on the same path to join together.The crooks in goverment only care about mass numbers against them , with the worry of being dethroned.I ask every one to make a list of all there reps and email,call and write to the I started this about a year ago when after reassesment my property taxes went up $2100.00 in a year.I love this country and belive in its past values and future greatness as tho founders wrote it.

I think we have awakened a little late. we can call, email and fax our representatives and senators all day and nothing will change. I think that the majority are on the same page to destroy the republic so many fought for. I seriously think the only way to regain control by the people is to refuse to send them the one thing that fuels there energy, OUR MONEY!!!! they can pass all the bills stimulus etc. but without the support of our taxes to fund THEIR agenda they can do nothing.

I LOVE YOU PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!! It gives me hope!

I agree with Bob Velon, congress comitted treason when they failed to verify this Muslim’s American birth certificate. That can only mean HE HAS NONE! so, how do begin, and complete, the absolutely total impeachment of all politicaians in office at that time, as well as any (newly elected) whose election was tainted by inaccurate voter registration numbers turned in by Acorn “volunteers” both Democrat and Republican?

A lot of people have compared Obama to FDR or JFK. Actually he reminds me of LBJ. In the 1964 presidential election, Johnson won by a landslide. One of the reasons for this was that he said we would never get us involved in Vietnam, as Goldwater felt that we should be. After the Gulf of Tonkin resolution, I delighted in hearing liberals say,”I voted for Johnson but I elected Goldwater. LBJ antagonized his liberal base by being hawkish on foreign policy, while ticking off conservatives with his left-wing social programs. Remind you of somebody? He also had numerous battles with Congress. LBJ of course did not seek a second term. He left the political battlefield in disgrace and humiliation. His vice, Hubert Haratio Humphrey was delegated to carry the ball, which he promptly dropped.When Nixon ran against Humphrey, the Republican party was divided, pretty much as it is now. As Yogi Berra used to say, “it’s de ja vu all over again.”The GOP needs to pick a strong candidate to beat Biden in 2012

Why the hell do conservative commentators, Hannity, Oreilly, Beck, et al have Karl Rove, architect of the Republican disaster (amnesty anyone?) of 06 and 08 on their shows. Beats the hell outa me. And I am a bedrock concservative.

Glenn He can wrap himself in whatever he wants. Does not change a thing. He nominates racists, he appoints tax dodgers, His friends were questionable, he cannot remember where he lived. His land bought in a deal. His birth certificate is questionable. A certification IS NOT a true Birth Certificate. He is changing our country to suit his rich backers / voters. What has he really done for the poor. Seeing he gave away millions 250.00 seems a pittance. For sick people it doesn’t even pay for 2 months medicine. Seems to me the citizens are taking a royal one. No matter how you look at it. To me payback is payola. He tells stories. People believe him. When all my brothers and sisters see finally they are just a pawn they will see for themselves. We are nothing to him. The ones he cares about are the ones he owes. Now they are taking Car co.? Moon disease is running rampant. Actually I really have not decided who he is working for. It certainly cannot be me. So I figure it cannot be you either. God bless our country and our troops.