By Jennifer Parker

May 31, 2009 12:44pm

George Will and Paul Krugman Agree

It’s rare when ABC News contributors George Will and Paul Krugman agree on our “This Week” Roundtable.


But Will and Krugman found common ground this morning on the issue of California’s Supreme Court decision upholding Proposition 8′s same-sex marriage ban.

Don’t worry: they found plenty to argue about with the Sotomayor nomination and the GM bailout.

–George Stephanopoulos

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At one point in NY, Puerto Ricans were not allowed to eat in the same establishments as whites. They were discriminated in education and in the workplace.Of course there is a difference of experiences between a white male like George W. Bush, a product of a wealthy elite that has ruled this country, and is accepted to Yale because he came from a wealthy white family and spends most of his time cheerleading for the football team while there, and a hard-working Latina from the Bronx who grows up poor and is accepted based on her academic record. She graduated as valedictorian of her high school class and got a scholarship to Princeton university education based on her excellent academic record. She graduated summa cum laude. At Yale Law School, where she served as editor of the Yale Law journal, she graduated at the top of her class. Her seventeen years of experience on federal courts (11 in the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals) vastly outstrips the combined years of experience John Roberts, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas had when they were nominated–seven in total.Playing the race card will not work this time for the right-wingers.
Of the 110 people who have served on the Supreme Court, only four were not white males. These white men, who have controlled the US Supreme Court since its foundation, believe somehow experiences don’t affect who we are?
This same Supreme Court, made up of white men, upheld the laws against interracial marriages in Pace v. Alabama (1883); it upheld segregation in Plessy v. Ferguson (1896); in United States v. Thind (1923), it held that Asians could not become citizens because they were not white; it found to be legal the internment of Japanese-Americans in Hirabayashi v. United States (1943), and so on…

Posted by: C L | May 31, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

California’s Supreme Court decision upholding Proposition 8′s same-sex marriage ban. I think it still put the lower courts in a position to say it’s morally and law fully right for a woman to marry a woman or a man to marry a man. We as a society have been teaching our children that an ideal family is a man and a woman who’s join in union and one. They go forth with reproduction of children to carry forth the family name and legacy of the family through the generations and time. We still don’t have any scientific findings to support the gay factor or genes. It puts the courts in a super bad position to render a decision with no hard evidence to support any theory of “what is Gay”. I do and will always support life partners and everyone has rights to be with whom ever they want to be with. But our courts “MUST” stay always with in the scope of the law base on factual evidence brought and presented before our courts. It’s our rights to peaceful protest. But, we must depend on our courts to help us sort on decisions that govern of our country. Our lawmaker “Must” work hard to present supported evidence to get these laws enacted base on hard facts and not guess work.

Posted by: Pedro Dixon | May 31, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm

I, being a woman, can relate to Justice Sotomoyor’s statement, which, by the way, was taken out of context. Of course a white male’s opinion, based on his life experiences will differ from that of a female Latino, based on her life experiences, just being female! If the GOP rejects her nomination, they’re toast. It would convey to me that THEY are playing the racist card and at a time when they need direction, this would not sit well with the public at large!

Posted by: Grecian Lady | May 31, 2009, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

Grecian Lady is taking Sotomayor’s comments out of context. Sotomayor was specifically disagreeing with Justice O’Connor’s statement that a wise woman & wise man will arrive at the same conclusion. The US justice system should strive for the ideal of equality under the law. Embracing diversity should not include embracing everybody’s individual prejudices.

Posted by: adagioforstrings | May 31, 2009, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Paul, I just watched your unsuccessful attempt, among the round-table panelists on “This Week”, to focus on (and educate about) negative externality costs needing to inform rational decision making in our political-economy.
The first phrase that popped into my head was that old Bill Clinton phrase — “I feel your pain”.
Alan MacDonald
Sanford, Maine

Posted by: Alan MacDonasld | May 31, 2009, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

Adagioforstrings; Yes, I agree that the US justice system should embrace diversity, but how is it that the Supreme Court has a majority of males? Don’t smart female justices count? God knows, it’s taken too long to find intelligent women to uphold rational decision making!
Let’s wait and see what happens, that’s all.

Posted by: Grecian Lady | May 31, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm

Anyone know where judge Sotomayor stands on gay marriage and abortion? I ask this because she is a Latino Roman Catholic. She ruled in favor of the Bush administration on, not giving funding for abortion to third world countries. Wouldn’t it be something if she backfires on the democrats. Be careful what you wish for.

Posted by: 3rd party | May 31, 2009, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

Gays and Equal Rights
Why does not someone answer the demand of Gays for equal rights? We don’t want to be unfair. The constitutional right to equal protection does not mean that everyone must be treated the same. An adult, two or three times the age of a child may be given voting or property rights that are not given to the child… In the use of a village owned parking field, a nonresident may be charged a fee higher than charged to a village resident. A healthy, able bodied, person need not be given the same right to public accommodations as a handicapped person. What is the test? Where there is a substantial difference between two groups having some reasonable relation to the subject of the regulation. In the case of benefits given to married couple and withheld from “gay unions” there is ample reason why rights given to a union of a man and a woman can be withheld (and perhaps should be) from a “gay” couple. This distinction is not based on religious principles.
For centuries the family has been regarded as a foundation of a tribe or nation. This is a union designed to produce the children needed to sustain nation. We see this illustrated in present day Europe. The non-Muslim couples in nations like France are not having children. Abortion and contraception have led to a situation where the marrieds are not replacing themselves. The Muslims are producing children and expanding. It is in the interest of a nation to encourage family stability and production of offspring. Is it not fair to ask: What benefits flow to the national welfare from the union of same sex couples? There is no constitutional objection to laws treating the two groups differently.
One might question my expertise in this area of the law. I graduated law school “summa cum laude”. I was a judge for 15 years. I handled the legislative program of Nassau County for 10 years.

Posted by: Francis J. Donovan | June 1, 2009, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

Seems like our President is making unbelievable choices like Huntsman, Sotomayor and now McHugh. This is an example of well thought out, calculated decisions that will help our country. If you look closely the choices are brilliant. As for Sotomayor, what this country’s judicial system needed was a latin woman. Not a latin man, not another white woman,. not another black man. This choice is brilliant. If some of you are feeling like second class citizens, welcome to the real America. Stop your whinning and get involved. No one class is better than the other so you need to accept the facts and learn to live with the reality. this is what we not call POWER LATINS.

Posted by: Stingr | June 7, 2009, 11:28 am 11:28 am

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