Comments on: The Note, 5/15/2009: Growing Pains — Obama tacks right, Pelosi lashes back, and Dems take on new fights

By: Sam Adams

Sam Adams — Sat, 16 May 2009 00:32:08 +0000

bobj72 translated from gobble-dee-gook to English:
We are a nation of cowards who debate and defend the civil rights of non-citizens of this country who want to kill us.

By: pam

pam — Sat, 16 May 2009 00:28:03 +0000

Until these human rights organizations protest the horrible abuses endured by women under Sharia Law (true torture-stoning, lashings, beatings, honor killings), they have no credibility anyway and that includes the ACLU.
Obama is now entering the real world and finding it a dangerous place.

By: bobj72

bobj72 — Fri, 15 May 2009 23:37:56 +0000

Ryan | May 15, 2009 6:08:01 PM
“We’re a nation of cowards. We’re debating each other on how to deal with people that want to kill us. You liberals are too naive to be running anything.”
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Sorry Cowboy, sounds like an OVERDOSE of limbaugh, hannity, cheney, rove, newt and palin.
This “liberal” and that’s your name calling there. I always considered myself an Intelligent Independent Moderate.
Besides the point, I always think of Americans as being a Country of Respectful Humanitarians, who are Consistent and True to our word. We are a people who believe in Playing Fair and expect others to do the same. We have High Ethical Standards and High Ideals – which extends Respect to others and demands that we are also Respected by others. We intend to demonstrate, why we should be the Leaders of the Free World, and we also happen to be the Strongest Major Power in The World.
And that ain’t a “Weak Sister”, Cowboy!

By: bobj72

bobj72 — Fri, 15 May 2009 23:14:13 +0000

Rasputin3.14 | May 15, 2009 6:46:39 PM
“It appears Obama is now asking himself ” What would President Bush do?????”
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Not a “Gnat’s Hair” of a chance. If any consideration of the previous Administration were to come-to-mind EVER, it would most likely be for the purpose of “WHAT WE ABSOLUTELY SHOULDN’T DO!!!”

By: Rasputin3.14

Rasputin3.14 — Fri, 15 May 2009 22:46:39 +0000

It appears Obama is now asking himself ” What would President Bush do?????”

By: Giftedroot

Giftedroot — Fri, 15 May 2009 22:22:13 +0000

It seems that the Republican distraction is working because the media focus is shifting away from
the more important point of
Who-Authorized-the-Torture
to
Who-was-told-if-told-at-all.
Demonize Pelosi all they want, but there’d be no controversy without the Bush administration having authorized and implemented “enhanced interrogation techniques” (aka – torture).

By: Ryan

Ryan — Fri, 15 May 2009 22:08:01 +0000

We’re a nation of cowards. We’re debating each other on how to deal with people that want to kill us. You liberals are too naive to be running anything.

By: bobj72

bobj72 — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:52:45 +0000

Sandy Obu | May 15, 2009 5:42:19 PM
“It is very difficult to define TORTURE by one definition.” Remember, “One Man’s PAIN is another Man’s PLEASURE.”
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Nice, for polite conversation. But the International Standard for TORTURE is a concensus that WAS reached by an International body of Governments. And the agreement reached, specifically OUTLAWS WATERBOARDING and Unequivocably Defines Waterboarding as TORTURE.

By: bobj72

bobj72 — Fri, 15 May 2009 21:43:29 +0000

Mihann | May 15, 2009 4:44:27 PM
Sit quietly and try, as best you can to pull all of your faculties together for this. President Barack Obama, V.P. Joe Biden, Speaker Pelosi, and let’s for the sake of simplicity – say she lied. Now move on to Cheney, GWB, Rumsfield and Rove. And I ask the QUESTION: What Would be the ORDER Of Individuals THAT YOU WOULD SAY are Responsible for the following;
MANIPULATING The Legal Opinion on the International Crime of TORTURE?
And for AUTHORIZING the International Crime of TORTURE? O.K.?
Now, the analysis;
PELOSI LIED:
to “save face”,
because it’s a pathological problem,
because she’s dumb (but smart enough to gain the Speaker position. We know you right edge wingnuts hate her. But again, she’s smart enough to keep you all at bay.)
Or she has a penchant for having the Spy Agency ‘come down’ on her.
Even a “tree stump” knows the CIA reports to the Executive Office, so the President is not picking sides.
Now, let’s say the CIA LIED:
Wouldn’t be the first time,
They do it to protect the Agency,
They do it to protect the Executive Office.
They would be assurred, they would be
kept “above the fray.”
And is the Director of the Agency expected to do anything other than “Defend the name of the Agency?”
Now FOUR (4) pertinent Questions;
1.) Who would have more to gain by LYING?
2.) Based on “what could be gained”, which party has a more Logical reason to LIE?
3.) What, if any affect would PELOSI’s Lying have on The Reputation of America on the International scene?
4.) And How, PRAY TELL would PELOSI’s Guilt or Innocence of LYING, ALTER THE FACT that an International Crime Conspiracy occured, there was an Approval given by the Previous Administration – approving the International Crime of Torture and we committed the Act of Torture on hundreds of occasions!

By: Mihann

Mihann — Fri, 15 May 2009 20:44:27 +0000

“The GOP has successfully created “The Master Distraction”, THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION KNOWINGLY COMMITTING THE CRIMINAL ACT OF TORTURE!
(Pelosi is In NO Way complicit in the Crime!!!)”
Can you believe that any one still believes in Nancy??? I hate to tell this nutjob that Nancy knowing attending six briefings and did not speak out against waterboarding. This should make
Nancy as guilty as Bush. Then, come Nancy’s repeated lies and now, her accusations of a CIA conspiracy against her. My God, help us! Lyin’ Nancy is third in line to be president!!!
“Liberalism” really is a mental disorder.