Hatch: Obama Using ‘Code’ for Activist Judge
Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the longest serving Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said on "This Week" Sunday that President Barack Obama used "code" for an activist judge this week when describing his ideal nominee to replace retiring Justice David Souter.
"It’s a matter of great concern, if he’s saying that he wants to pick people who will take sides. He’s also said that a judge has to be a person of empathy — what does that mean? Usually that’s a code word for an activist judge," Hatch told me on "This Week."
"But he also said that, that, he’s going to select judges on the basis of their personal politics, their personal feelings, their personal preferences," Hatch said, "Now, you know those are all code words for an activist judge who’s going to be partisan on the bench."
Obama this week said he was looking for a person of intelligence, excellence, integrity, and empathy.
"I will seek someone who understands that justice isn’t about some abstract legal theory, or footnote in a case book. It is also about how our laws affect the daily realities of people’s lives, whether they can make a living, care for their families, whether they feel safe in their homes, and welcome in their own nation," Obama said Friday, in a clip that aired on ‘This Week."
But Hatch argued Obama shouldn’t have a "litmus test" when selecting a judge.
"We all know he’s going to pick a more liberal justice. Their side will make sure that it’s a pro-abortion justice. I don’t think anybody has any illusions about that. The question is, are they qualified?" Hatch said.
Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont said he has spoken to the president about his potential pick and rejected Hatch’s argument that Obama is using "code" words.
"I’ve known President Obama long enough. He doesn’t need to use code words. He speaks very plainly and very directly. I think that’s why he won such a resounding victory in November," Leahy said on "This Week."
"What I would argue is you walk into the Supreme Court, over the doorway there is a great big piece of Vermont marble, and engraved on it, it says "equal justice under law." That’s what you want to have. We’ve had a very activist court. We had an activist court that made a decision that allowed employers to covertly discriminate against women so that women wouldn’t get paid equally. We in the Congress reversed that with a law, in fact, the first law that President Obama signed into law. I think he wants to have somebody to treat people all the same, whether they’re Republicans, or Democrat, men, women, or whatever they may be," Leahy said.
"I think he has some very — some people that he would like to see — the type of people he’d like to see. Remember, he was a constitutional law professor," Leahy said.
Leahy said he expects Obama’s nominee for the Supreme Court to be on the bench in time for the court’s new term in October.
When I asked whether Obama’s pick should be a woman, Leahy said, " I would like to see certainly more women on the court. Having only one woman on the Supreme Court does not reflect the makeup of the United States. I think we should have more women. We should have more minorities. I would like to see more people from outside the judicial monastery, somebody who has had some real-life experience."
One conservative group has begun mobilizing against some rumored Obama picks, arguing appeals court judges Sonia Sotomayor of New York and Diane Wood of Chicago, and the new solicitor general, Elena Kagan are radicals.
"I don’t think they’re radicals," Hatch told me, "but there’s no question that they are on the far left of the spectrum. And to be honest with you, I don’t expect the president to pick somebody in the center or on the far right. But, you know, it would be a slam dunk if he picked somebody who was center-left like Souter. Souter became very liberal, but he also stood for a lot of principles."
With Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania now a Democratic, I asked who would be leading the Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Hatch suggested it could be Republicans Sens. Chuck Grassley of Iowa, John Kyl of Arizona, or Jeff Sessions of Alabama.
"I suspect that Grassley has first choice to become the ranking member on Judiciary," Hatch said.
"Grassley has first choice. Then Kyl if Grassley stays on Finance. And if Kyl stays in leadership, then Jeff Sessions. So any of those three could wind up being –" Hatch said.
"Are you expecting then Senator Sessions to be the ranking member?" I asked.
"Well, I don’t know. I know that he and Senator Grassley are trying to work out something, and we’ll just have to see what happens. But I suspect any of those three will be just fine," he said.
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I think many people supported Obama because of the balance of the court. We have had enough of the limus test, Dobson approved justices.
We need a court that embodies the principles of the Federlist Papers and who understands the impact of their decisions upon people.
Hatch is using code that they GOP fanatical base is not happy!
Posted by: scott jeffries | May 3, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am
The basic problem with Socialism is eventually you’ll run out of other people’s money. That’s where we are headed, intentional or not.
Posted by: LongT | May 3, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am
There is “old” Orrin Hatch again…why don’t these “do nothing politicans” retire with my “socialist” paid retirement checks that are huge for nothing other than “being a seat holder” with the “good old boys?”
Posted by: tychisum | May 3, 2009, 11:56 am 11:56 am
The GOP has just one goal, and that is to prevent President Obama from doing anything helpful to our country. The GOP is now the “party of no”, the party of sore losers, and the party of lost radicals with only fanatics and wackos leading the pack.
Posted by: James B. | May 3, 2009, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm
welcome in their own nation,” Obama said Friday, in a clip that aired on ‘This Week.” …What does he mean by this ?
Posted by: Pcc | May 3, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm
The Republican party is dying a slow painful death..to that I say good riddance party of voodoo economics and unjustified wars.
Posted by: Stanley | May 3, 2009, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
Doesn’t matter if Hatch is Republican or not. You do not want a judge on the bench that doesn’t follow the rule of law. We are in big trouble if we have judges that say, “yes, I know the law says this but I really feel like Ms. Ledbetter should get X, Y, or Z.” That is a judge acting on personal feelings. Don’t be deceived in this instance because this is a good for you judge. The law may mandate a 1 year sentence for a crime and Obama judges that don’t have to follow law could sentence you based on their “personal feelings”! Read, “The Road to Serfdom” and be afraid. Very afraid.
Posted by: Ted | May 3, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm
Code? …These people are literally insane! After once being a registered Republican, and now an independent, these people actually frighten me with their hysterics.
Posted by: FS | May 3, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Too much reading between the lines is a sign of a tendency towards paranoid thinking. All Obama is saying is that the law is to serve the people; not the other way around. The case at hand is about real people in conflict seeking justice; not just an opportunity for the next move in a legal chess game.
Posted by: Blaine | May 3, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
Sen. Hatch needs to get over himself, Republicans have so stacked the Court to the Extreme Right that it will take decades to undo the damage they have done. President obama needs to appoint a left of center Justice to at least maintain the current imbalance that exists, and not let it drift even further right.
Hey Republicans, we had an election in November and you got spanked along with your agenda being rejected. Enough of the right Wing Activist Judges, time for a sea change back to the left side.
Posted by: Dave The Cynic | May 3, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
If Senator Hatch wants to nominate a justice then he should run for President. Talk about wanting to have his cake and eat it. They force through partisan jurists when in charge but, whoa, wait a minute, can’t do that now that we’re not in charge. Bush even nominated Harriet Miers, just because she was his pal.
My guess is that Obama will give more thought to this than he is given credit. Everybody knew this was coming and he’ll probably get to name Ginsburg’s and Breyer’s successors as well. Do you really think he is going to replace a left-leaning jurist with a conservative? The only fight will come when Kennedy steps down.
Posted by: MIguy | May 3, 2009, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
It is so funny when a Republican uses “code words” like “Activist Judge”, especially one of our great Republican leaders. Remember, the most “Activist Court” of the last 100 years lead the charge against institutionally guaranteed racism.
Posted by: Dale C | May 3, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Americans don’t have the mentality to see the real picture so let me decipher it for you! Thanks Senator Hatch but some people don’t need nor want your insight…..
Posted by: rickyt1234 | May 3, 2009, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
Obama this week said he was looking for a person of intelligence, excellence, integrity, and empathy.
Well, we need an Asian-American in the court.
Posted by: Ki Kwon | May 3, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
“Obama this week said he was looking for a person of intelligence, excellence, integrity, and empathy.”
pcc, what is so scary about this if I might ask? Sounds like what anyone would want in a jurist. Not some Right Wing Corporatist Hyper Religious Nut Case like Scalia or Alito.
Posted by: Dave The Cynic | May 3, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Scalia, Alito, Roberts & Thomas are activist judges, and no one accuses them of being empathetic, with regular people any way. All four empathize with corporations, cops & government interests though I guess.
Posted by: Jeff | May 3, 2009, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
LMao I wonder how supportive you left wing koskiddies are going to be when your “AVERAGE” family of four will have to pay an extra $3600 a year for cap and trade..Not to mention the massive tax increases that are just around the corner….not to mention inflation.. i WILL BE LAUGHING MY ASS OFF WHEN YOU START CRYING OVER THIS.
GEORGIE, the weekly meeting going ok over at the watergate?
Posted by: How am I doing now Comrades | May 3, 2009, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
Reading this report there were two points of view, presented very clearly. Hatch at his very best is moderate, he supported the Presidents “borrow money from kids not yet born plan” to make it easier for those of us here now. But he did present his point, Leahy presented his and yet the left foams at the mouth with bloodshot eyes and green vomit at the mere thought that someone else has a different opinion. Tolerant? Hardly.
And DKR,that so many are so eager to spend someone elses money, even those unborn, yet call someone else selfish baffles me. It seems to me that those who will print and borrow money for their own comfort, whether it be free housing , school etc is every bit as greedy as the bankers and politicians that led us to the point we are at today.
Posted by: david | May 3, 2009, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm
David might I remind you the Banking Bailout began under the Bush administration? Not to mention the largest expansion in government, government debt, deficit spending in thehistory of the Country. And much of this while Republicans were in the Majority in the Congress? Spare me your current angst over deficit spending, when it was Republicans that spent us into the position we are now where the government nearly hasn’t the resources to pull us out of the economic tail spin the Republicans left us with.
Posted by: Dave The Cynic | May 3, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
>God you Obama followers are scary people…Is there anything that Obama does or says that you don’t agree with…
Of course there is… and when that happens we will raise our voices very loudly. It just hasn’t happened yet. We, (intelligent people) realize that our President has not been in office long enough to fairly evaluate his performance. However, we like what we see so far. We feel that he is sincere in working for the betterment of our country and its people …unlike you and your ilk who have been whining since November 4th. Just remember my dear one, you were the people who actually insulted the American people by putting that uninformed, stupid woman (I apologize ladies–IDIOT!) on the national ticket to lead our country. NOW!!! THAT’S WHAT’S SCARY!
Posted by: FS | May 3, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
Senator Hatch and the rest of the defeated and increasingly meaningless Republicans need to realize the President Obama AND the Democrats won. The country is stuck with the neo-con justices like Scalia, Thomas, and Alito. It is time to present a liberal/progressive person of intelligence to balance the court and try to counter the big money, right-wing justice that ruled under Bush. It was unfortunate that it wasn’t one of the neo-con justices so that the true rule of law could start to be regained after the mess the Repub appointees have made.
Posted by: afmcalax | May 3, 2009, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm
What have the repubs done when appointing someone for the bench. They pick the most conservative idiot they can find. SO why should a Dem pres not be able to pick someone with skills, experience and a liberal attitude. Oh yeh, repubs can do whatever they want, break the law, and the dems have to do what the repubs want. I am really beginning to hate republicans.
Posted by: Krisd | May 3, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
‘Code’ for Activist now if that not some of the most, silly willy stuff I ever heard for grown men of power to say about a sitting President. Next someone might say President Obama is sending secret codes to sleeper cells! Just like they were saying V.P. Chaney was sending secret codes to the most secret underground organization,in this country. Hmmm! They need to get a life.
Posted by: Pedro Dixon | May 3, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
The government officials should not make laws or make decisions based on religion, personal beliefs or opinions. I believe the president will make a good decision on a supreme court justice. The republicans are the moral majority which means religion and that is one religion. Religion, personal beliefs, nor persoanl opinion belong in politics or law. America has always been and is a nation of many faiths, nationalities, cultures, and races. Liberty and justice for all not just us.
Posted by: Melody | May 3, 2009, 1:45 pm 1:45 pm
Intelligence, excellence, integrity, and empathy. I can see how you would read that as code words meaning liberal. If he wanted a conservative he should have used four entirely different words.
Posted by: Mallory | May 3, 2009, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
Bill Maher said it best this week:
“Republicans say that Obama’s pick for Supreme Court Justice is completely unacceptable and they will let us know
why as soon as they know who it is.”
Republicans are going to oppose no matter who the Supreme Court Justice nominee is just because that is all they know how to do….whine, whine, whine. Complain, complain, complain.
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Can someone please explain to me what a “radical extremist” conservative is? What is so “radical” and “extremist” about trying to keep the left from completely shredding our Constitution?
I realize that this country has strayed pretty far from the Constitution since FDR’s New Deal, but I never thought I’d hear someone describe a person as “extreme” for trying to get the country to return to the principles in the Constitution.
Thank goodness we have 4 justices (Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia) that still understand and believe in the Constitution.
In Obama’s world, the Constitution or rule of law is no longer what really matters. What really matters is that the Justice has “empathy.” That is code speak for feelings & emotions matter more than the law. And yet we have uneducated buffoons on the left that call Conservatives “extremists.”
The founding fathers must be rolling over in their graves.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm
Comedy = thinking that the “Constitution or rule of law” mattered under Bush/Cheney. Seriously, it seems that those left in the GOP have a tendency to accuse others of what they see in their own reflection.
Posted by: MIguy | May 3, 2009, 2:24 pm 2:24 pm
MIguy – excuse me but tell me how Alito or Roberts have been using their “feelings” and “empathy” instead of the Constitution as the basis for their decisions???
You libs are all the same. When someone calls you out on your nonsensical way of thinking, you try to justify it by saying “well the other side does it too” yet you never provide examples. Its like something a child would do.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm
The founding fathers ARE rolling over in their graves!!! Look what you great wingnuts and “the decider” “contributed” to our country:
1. Limited Government – He made government bigger, more expensive and defied separation of church and state by bringing religious groups into government.
2. Fiscal Responsibility – He wasted trillions of tax dollars and wrecked our economy
3. Personal Responsibility – He never admitted his mistakes or apologized for them
4. The Rule of Law – He broke the laws on torture and Geneva Convention
5. National Sovereignty – He started an unjust war, made us less safe by exhausting our military, and burdened our treasury with decades of debt to foreigners. After all that, terrorism and piracy are still around.
I like the notion that when President Obama walks up to the mike to introduce his appointee, he does so as the “new” president, the “vigorous” president, the “with-it” president, a man 2/3rds of voters feel is taking their country in the right direction.
They think he is intelligent and they like him.
The no-no nitwits in the Senate will be hard-pressed to reject Obama’s choice for Souter’s replacement.
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Sandy here is one for your list: Repubs wanted a tax! The last fix for health care from Bush/Rove and then by McCain was taxing the money people pay for health benefits! Conservative values taxing the money people pay for health insurance? If your employer pays a share then that is taxable also. The taxpayers and insured people are already packing the load with higher premiums. Sad….
Posted by: rickyt1234 | May 3, 2009, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm
Souter has been bored as a stone and wanted to leave for sometime but was not going to do that under a republican president, certainly not Bush. There’s no mystery as to why he’d doing this now. I personally was very dissapointed with Sandra Day, letting Bush pick her replacement. After Alito made that VERY disturbing comment on the law that would have forced women to ask permission to get an abortion from their husbands, to which Alito highly supported, she was horrified, said it was “obscene”. Yeah? What did you think Bush was going to put up? Someone who supported women???? Men have affairs all the time, does anyone make it against the law? Unfreakn believable how she would retire without waiting out Bush’s presidency.
Posted by: just sayn | May 3, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
Sandy Sandy Sandy, thank you for setting that up so I can knock it down! Let’s go through your points one by one:
1. Limited Government – Are you telling me that Obama, the man who has taken over banks and auto companies, the man who has fired a CEO of a private company, the man who just GAVE the UAW control of two auto companies, the man who is politicizing the Census, is all about limited government? I was not for Bush’s big government of spending, but doubling down on STUPID is not a solution!
2. Fiscal Responsibility – LOL! I just have to laugh and laugh at this. First of all, Obama SUPPORTED the TARP bail out along with the Dems. 2nd of all, Obama was TRIPLED the deficit since he took over. He has spent more money than Bush and all the other Presidents COMBINED!!!!
3. Personal Responsibility – EVERYTHING That has gone wrong since Obama has taken over – Obama blames Bush!!! Is that the kind of personal responsibility you’re talking about???
4. The Rule of Law – Water boarding was NEVER defined as torture before Obama declared it to be, and Bush used the techniques he had to on 3 animals to keep this country safe! It must be nice to live in a pre 9/11 mindset.
5. National Sovereignty – What the sam hell are you talking about? Are you too young to remember the Gulf war? We had a cease fire w/ Saddam that he broke repeatedly for 12 years! We had 14 UN resolutions. Enough was enough!
By the way, nice way to change the subject. I realize you can’t control your anger at Bush, but this is about appointing Justices to the SCOTUS.
So tell me, are you really this uninformed, or are you another paid Obama blogger?
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
It’s sad when Hatch says he doesn’t know what empathy means…. that it must be code for an activist judge. Maybe that’s what’s wrong with the GOP – they’ve forgotten what empathy means!
Posted by: robin | May 3, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Dan In SC: No just an informed voter who thinks for herself. And someone not fooled by right-wing talking heads like Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Beck, and Cheney.
By the way, today’s Gallup Poll of President Obama’s approval rating:
May 3, 2009
Gallup Poll
Approve: 68%
Disapprove: 26%
As far as political moves go, nomiating someone like Sotomayor is a can’t lose for Obama. Either she gets confirmed and Obama appoints the first Hispanic Justice. Or she doesn’t get confirmed and the Republicans block the first Hispanic Justice.
Even a vote on party lines will look horrible for Republicans.
No wonder the GOPers will soon be known as GONers!
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 2:50 pm 2:50 pm
Dan In SC – And your the one who couldn’t figure out that torture was against the law! President Obama was a professor of constitutional law! Your boy GW and DC are the ones that took away rights and shredded the constitution! You say we “librals” say the other side did it like we are children. Facts don’t seem to matter to you Dan! I witnessed that with the torture debate! When we pointed out the laws that had been broken, you went into the childish rant that it had produced results, even though it was pointed out to you that even the CIA Dir. for Bush said they had gotten the information they needed before they waterboarded and did it anyway! Cheney/Bush have completely disregarded the principle upon which our forefathers set up a government of checks and balances. Their flagrant disregard of constitutional law and international law has shown us and the world that America has lost its moral sense of right and wrong – witness Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, the war in Iraq,the turmoil in the Office of the Legal Counsel, the scandals in the Justice Department, and more.
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm
Sandy,
Ah yes. The typical liberal that can’t discuss or debate any topic w/ out bringing up your most-feared bogeymen, Rush, Hannity, Coulter, etc. Can you not argue points w/out dragging in the names of people that have NOTHING to do with this article??? Are all you libs the same or did you all attend the same re-education camps?
And guess what, two can play the polls game. A new Rasmussen poll shows Obama’s approval at an all time low of 54% and it has been trending down down down. Obama has about the same approval as Bush did at this point, so what does that mean???
Sotomayor’ race, religion, gender, or emotions should NOT be a factor in her selection!! What should matter is whether or not she will uphold the oath that she will take to uphold the Constitution of the United States!
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
try the truth, Sorry buddy but you presented NOTHING to me to that proved Water boarding was torture. You did however copy and paste a rant from the Democrat Underground and tried to pass that off as your “proof”. You guys are so blinded by 1) your rage at Bush and 2) your willingness to accept/believe anything Obama tells you, that you completely ignore the situation & circumstances that Bush faced in 2002-2003 following the worst attack in our country’s history. It is YOU that choose to ignore facts.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm
Dan in SC, wrong again! 56% say they somewhat approve of the Presidents performance so far and 35% strongly approve, I guess you never learned how to read a poll which is market research. Either way you slice it, the Presidents approval ratings are VERY GOOD!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm
Read the Bible God’s got!
Posted by: R. Pfau | May 3, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
try the truth – oh you got me! 56% vs 54%!! A difference of a whole 2% -ewwww way to go! BTW, the margin of error is +/-3% and as of yesterday it was 54%. And yesterday it his approval index was +1 – the lowest yet.
Give it a day or two and I’ll be right yet again!
None of this changes the fact that his approval about the same as Bush’s was at this point, and that Obama’s approval has gone WAY down since Jan. 20.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
“Sotomayor’ race, religion, gender, or emotions should NOT be a factor in her selection!! What should matter is whether or not she will uphold the oath that she will take to uphold the Constitution of the United States!
Dan in SC”
Dan perhaps had Bush and Cheney done that we wouldn’t be in the mess we are now. Terrorism is as great a threat as ever, Iraq is a failed state propped up by the US Military. Afghanistan is home to a resurgent Taliban, not to mention an increasingly powerful Taliban in Pakistan. Oh and let me remind you that is a Nuke capable Pakistan. They left this country LESS safe, LESS just, LESS finacialy stable and you wonder why we deride the republicans?
Posted by: Dave The Cynic in SC | May 3, 2009, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Dan in SC, as I said on the torture thread, lets waterboard you and see if you believe it’s torture! Sen. McCain who was tortured serving our country believes it’s torture! And your not blind enough to believe that is all they did? If you watched any shows you would know there was a host of other tactics and abuses they used! I understand what Bush faced after the attacks, I watched the towers fall, I lost friends, BUT that did not give him the right to invade a nation that had nothing to do with the attacks and torture! We can’t hold ourselves up as the example if we are doing exactly what we say is wrong. As for pasting the info, I did forget my quote marks! Gee that makes you soo right, huh! I do my research and don’t just “buy” what any politician says! Free thinker, and you spouting off your talking points? You don’t like people bringing up certain names, but you spout their ideas with out doing any research of your own. And as on the torture thread when confronted with facts about laws broken, you feel the end justifies the means! At what cost to OUR troops!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
Dave The Cynic in SC, first of all I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote – especially the part about us being less safe due to Bush’s policies. What evidence do you have of that? All I know is that my country was not attacked again after 9/11 when EVERYONE fully expected that it would be.
Second of all, I will ask again, what does ANY of that have to do with appointing Justices to the SCOTUS?
You’re logic seems to be, Bush/Cheney did bad things, therefore Obama is justified in doing whatever the hell he likes even if its totally unrelated!!! Give me a break!
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
sandy wrote: “Republicans are going to oppose no matter who the Supreme Court Justice nominee is just because that is all you right-wingers know how to do.”
Right, b/c Dems have been SOOOO willing to go along with Republican judicial appointees! Gang of 14 anyone? Robert Bork anyone? Anyone????
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm
Dan in SC, please read it again! 56% somewhat and 35% strongly approve! Do you even know how to disseminate the information from a poll? Doesn’t look like it! Dave the cynic said it well, “They left this country LESS safe, LESS just, LESS finacialy stable and you wonder why we deride the republicans? (see didn’t forget the quotes!) Live in your cave and shun the real world. I have a feeling you participated in a tea party, funny thing about those, NO TAXES HAVE BEEN RAISED! Maybe you should listen a bit to John McCain’s daughter, she makes sense! FYI- I was brought up in a GOP family! Father voted Repub 60+ years, this last election, he said “hell no!”
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 3:26 pm 3:26 pm
“Right, b/c Dems have been SOOOO willing to go along with Republican judicial appointees! Gang of 14 anyone? Robert Bork anyone? Anyone????”
Cannot be helped if Republicans nominate such ignorant, unqualified people as Bork and Miers. Your bad! Not ours.
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
This is such a joke…Bush had a litmus test and sought to appoint “activist” judges as well. I always found that particular “conservative” complaint amusing. Even in the Judicial Branch, there has to be balance, and even when Justices ahere to the Constitution and law, there is MUCH room for leeway based on personal ideology. Time for some balance for a change.
Posted by: Kimberly | May 3, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
try the truth – RE: the Obama poll. 43% disapprove of Obama and 32% strongly disapprove!! What you’re point? The trends clearly on NOT favorable for Mr. Obama!!!
YOU say the country is less safe. I ask you the same question I asked Dave. What proof do you have? No attacks on American soil since 9/11 – that’s called results!
As for the tea parties, I did not attend but I would have if I didn’t have to go to work. And if you think they were only about taxes, it shows how out of touch you are. They were MORE about SPENDING! And rightfully so! The taxes those people were talking about were the taxes they know are coming as a result of all the spending! You can’t spend as much as Obama and not pay for it somehow eventually! That may be a difficult concept for you to understand.
Ha ha ha…you’re holind up McCain’s daughter as someone to look up to?? Oh my gosh I know you are joking b/c that 20-something D.C. socialite knows about as much about politics as Brittany Spears! All Ms. McCain cares about is getting invited to the liberal cocktail parties. She’s even admitted she doesn’t know much about politics. Why should anyone listen to the daughter of a failed RINO moderate Presidential nominee? McCain (along with Dole) proved once and for all that moderates do not win Presidential elections.
And guess what, I was brought up in a Democrat family. My father also has voted Democrat for over 60 years, but this time he said hell no and voted for McCain! Your party has gone so far left that he doesnt even recognize it. The people running the Democrat party today have NOTHING in common with JFK or Harry Truman!
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Kimberly – You are so right!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
try the truth wrote: “WHAT PART OF THEY HAD THE INFO BEFORE THEY TORTURED ISN’T GETTING THOUGH TO YOU!?”
where are you getting this weird information?? If this is true, then why have so many people in the intelligence community, including Dennis Blair, Obama’s OWN intelligence director say waterbording worked? His own words are:
““High value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al Qa’ida organization that was attacking this country,”
So how can they have already had the info, and yet turn around and admit that they got “high value” info?
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
try the truth – by the way, this thread is about appointing Justices to the SCOTUS. I’m happy to prove you wrong over and over on waterboarding, but why are you so obsessed with this? Waterboarding was a technique used by our intelligence community to obtain high value information that helped prevent terrorists from attacking our country. In your opinion, waterboarding is torture. In my opinion it is not.
Obama has come out and said he believes its torture. Fine, then going forward we can define it as such, but why are you liberals so insistent on making the definition retro-active??? Is it not enough that Obama has already decimated the morale of our CIA? Are you people so eaten up with anger at Bush that you have to have prosecutions for people who thought they were doing what is right to keep us safe?
Is this how future all future administrations are going to behave? Cherry pick policies that they did not like from the previous administration and then criminalize them?? This is a shameful and dangerous road to go down.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Ted posted “You do not want a judge on the bench that doesn’t follow the rule of law. We are in big trouble if we have judges that say, “yes, I know the law says this but I really feel like Ms. Ledbetter should get X, Y, or Z.” ”
You are so correct about the judges ignoring the rule of law, that’s how G.W.Bush got into office the first time.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
sandy – since identity politics are so important to you, why don’t we appoint an Asian to the SCOTUS (as someone else suggested)? Or how about an Indian? Or maybe a transsexual or openly gay person? Why do sub-group identities matter so much to the left???
And if minority status is so important, why are you targeting the only black Justice? Do you have something against black people???
What specifically has Clarence Thomas done in your mind that makes him unqualified as you indicated? I think you don’t like him b/c he’s black.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 3:52 pm 3:52 pm
I’ve got a code word for Hatch, whaaaaaaa! You lost, you don’t get to pick. Hopefully, Obama will pick someone like 35 to counterbalance the young Mr. Roberts.
Posted by: Greg | May 3, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
The law is already designed for empathy why does obama think it necessary that the law be interpreted by someone with which he considers more empathetic. I think obama is pandering to women.
Posted by: Kelsy Green | May 3, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Dan In SC- Please try and understand you have no idea what your talking about! Ms. McCain may not understand politics. She understands the christian, non inclusive, racist, do as I say, not as I do vitrole of the GOP!
No attacks on American soil, your right! How many friends have you buried? How many of your friends served and VOTED FOR PRES. OBAMA!? My family was Repub, because they had been the party that believed in civil rights for all! That is not who they are today! Tells me alot about your father ( bless his soul) and you! Do your own research, stop listening to your talking points! I’m off, no need to respond, although I know you will, it’s what you do, when nobody can challenge you. I’m making dinner for my boyfriend who by the way served. He lost 3 finger off his right hand, oh he made his living as a graphic artist! Until Pres. Obama, he was FIGHTING for benefits! In 100 days he has received them. Oh, as they chopped off his fingers, they made reference to water boarding! He is here as I respond to you, his question is, will you volunteer to serve? Since you think torture and your boys Bush and Cheney are so wonderful? Will you send you children? Yes, waterboarding is torture, your boy Hannity volunteered to have it done, there have been those who have said they will give $1000 for every second he can stand it, he hasn’t done it yet, why? May you one day understand. Use your own brain, stop doing talking points. By the way, Clarence used all that was available to him to get ahead, then wanted to close if off to others! I’m sure you don’t like affirmative action, but guess what skippy in my and your life time there are still laws on the books that make people of color second class citizens!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Supreme Court Justices job is to protect the Constitution and ensure tha every law is Constitutional.A political motivated judge will not serve this country fairly neither left or right.Another point regarding Obama’s taking over Wall Street, we don’t need the goverment running everything. We know how screwed up the government is, nothing gets done and the the bureocracy layers are just noting but a waste of human resources and taxpayers money.And last but not least just because Obama won does not mean that evryone else does not have the right to disagree with his policies. This is not a dictatorship as you liberal mongers opine.This is a democracy and WE ALL have the right to fight for what we believe and disgree with Obamas policies..capiche ??
Posted by: Frank | May 3, 2009, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
The Republicans are purging and getting back to basics of fiscal and limited central govt. IT’s a good and necessary evolution. When the majority of the youth who voted for obama are paying 45% taxes they’ll agree.
Posted by: Kelsy G | May 3, 2009, 4:10 pm 4:10 pm
Dan in SC- The conservatives you talk about are the KKK, militarist groups, fringe groups that use hate and ignorance as their issues and other crazy groups. The liberals have PETA, extreme environmental groups, etc. Both sides have their crazies. But your comment about liberals shredding the Constitution is both incorrect and insulting.
Posted by: kris | May 3, 2009, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
try the truth – Am I going to respond? In the words of your most hated conservative woman – “You betcha.”
First I want to say God Bless your boyfriend for fighting for this country. I have nothing but respect for all servicemen. But Id like to know when he enlisted for the service? Im sure it was not during the evil Bush/Cheney administration!
Second of all, cutting off someone’s fingers is REAL torture and should not be equated to waterboarding. Ask your boyfriend which one he’d choose if he had a choice. I think that’s a pretty easy answer.
Third of all, I do my own research. If I didn’t Id simply believe all the nonsense that is reported on MSM outlets like ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/MSNBC. How can you claim that someone that goes against the “conventional wisdom” fed to the public by these propaganda outlets does not do their own research??
Forth of all, your quote: “there have been those who have said they will give $1000 for every second he can stand it, he hasn’t done it yet, why?” Well I can tell you why. The person who said he’d pay is Keith Olbermann who nothing more than that immature liberal hack! And Hannity NEVER said he’d be water tortured for money by the second. He simply said he’d do it for charity, and if someone came along that was genuinely concerned with a charity that he believed in, Im sure he’s do it. Funny how libs are SOOOO against waterboarding the enemies of this country, but they would LOVE to see one of their fellow countrymen be waterboarded just b/c that person is conservative. You guys need to get your enemies in order!
Fifth of all, as Ive said many times, I am not a pure apologist for Bush/Cheney. They did MANY things that I did not like! That being said, Obama is doing a lot worse things and far more of them!
And what kind of question is it to ask me if I will send my children to fight in the military? The military is a all-volunteer force. If my children decide to volunteer, I will support them. If they decide that service is not for them, then so be it.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
Frank & Kelsy G -
taking over wall street started with you guys! Sorry you can’t accept the place your party put us in! I love how all the GOP are already gearing up to oppose the court nomination with out knowing who the heck it is! Too funny!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
Greg,
Consider this. Hatch says President Obama is speaking in “code” about his eventual Supreme Court justice nominee. Hatch and fellow Republicans really know what’s it like to speak in “code”:
(1) When John McCain and Sarah Palin opposed the Lilly Ledbetter Bill they did so because they said “women just deserve more education”, that’s all. That was code for: “We don’t think women are good enough to be paid the same amount as men.
(2) When Republicans call Obama a “marxist”, that’s code for: “He’s going to engineer a violent takeover of the U.S. government”
(3) When Republicans say that “heathens” brought Swine Flu from Mexico, that’s not just ethnic bigotry, but also code for “we are scared to death of Latino growth and development”.
(4) When Republicans used to attack bills as “quota bills”, that was code for “affirmative action that only black people benefit from”. And of course, Republicans, and Democrats, know better. African-Americans, Latinos, Asian-Americans, and Arab-Americans have benefitted from Affirmative Action, but, according to government and private industry numbers from the beginning, white women have benefitted the most. Everyone knows it, but Republicans chose to speak in code, as to benefit from misinformation and anger from economically displaced whites. (Ironically, even Sarah Palin benefited from TITLE IX, an affirmative action program).
Nobody, but nobody, plays the criminally irresponsible version of “speaking in code” better than Republicans. They wrote the books on it.
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
The fact that it’d be unthinkable for obama to nominate a white male smacks of racism to me.
Posted by: Kelsy Green | May 3, 2009, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
Dan In SC- Well once again your wrong! We stood and watched the towers fall, his brother was in one, he signed up then. He was ROTC in college, he believed what your liars said! And now I’m quoting him, yes, I’d prefer to have my fingers, but I also watched 19 and 20 year olds being water boarded in Iraq then Afaganistan, some still have brain damage from lack of air. For you to sit here on this blog and say what you do is a slap in the face. I read what Sheryl ( my real name) said on the torture thread, how dare you!
This me, if Hannity thinks it’s so easy, it doesn’t matter who challenges him, for charity he should do it, or is he like many of you, who have not served a p**y!? I only asked you to be water boarded because you didn’t think it was torture, but even when somebody who has been tortured speaks out you discount it! HOW DARE YOU!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Kelsy Green – it should be no surprise that liberals who decry racism would turn around and commit reverse racism. Its no different that when they decry how “intolerant” those on the right are, then turn around and put a Perez Hilton or Jinene Garofolo on TV to spout the most hateful and intolerant language one could imagine.
Personally I would have no problem with a 100% white man SCOTUS, or a 100% black male SCOTUS, or a 100% black female SCOTUS, etc. I just want the BEST people on the court that will uphold and defend the Constitution the way it is written – not the way they want it to be written!
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
Dan In SC |- you are right about the Democrats of before! But guess what, your party has turned into them, sad…
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Although this article was about a SCOTUS appointment, there seems to be a lot of talk about Statists vs. Conservatives. All of you who like to refer to “voodoo economics” should take a look at the sucess of Keynesian economics in our history. Prosperity has never trickled up, but poverty can and will trickle down. Your POTUS will not save the day without bankrupting the country. For some of you that will be fine as long as we are all equal.
Posted by: ConservativeWoman | May 3, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
Personally I would have no problem with a 100% white man SCOTUS, or a 100% black male SCOTUS, or a 100% black female SCOTUS, etc. I just want the BEST people on the court that will uphold and defend the Constitution the way it is written – not the way they want it to be written!
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Now I’m scared, we agree! :)Only issue is the GOP many times, notice I didn’t say always, don’t agree. They want what they want!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
Dan In SC posted:The Republicans are not without blame here. This is the reason they were kicked out of office in 2006. Why do you guys not get this???
OMG!!!!! I am shakened! I have been moved? I am stunned!!! It just can’t be possible that a neo-con actually admits to and accepts fault and responsibility? …I must take to my bed in haste. This was just an astounding development.
Posted by: FS | May 3, 2009, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
FS – what is this “neo-con” you speak of? Don’t you know that’s an anti-Semitic term! Shame on you! What do you have against Jewish people??
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm
try the truth…I’m very Independent and I care less who started this. It must stop period.The people in Congress should have seen this coming long ago. They are the overseers but they laxed their duty.They are the ones that need to be booted out. Barney Frank does not ring a bell in your head ??? but it is easy to blame someone else, isn’t it ?
Posted by: Frank | May 3, 2009, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
ConservativeWoman: Have you been living on an alternate planet the past 8 years? America has seen first hand the results of Republican “values” at work, and those “values” brought us:
1. Two illegal wars
2. Record shattering deficits
3. Economy in the dumps
4. Rampant corporate abuse
5. Implosion of the housing market
6. Unprecedented government corruption
7. Torture
8. Discrimination
9. A more dangerous world
10. Government waste
11. Politicization of the Justice Department
12. Lack of response to Hurricane Katrina
13. Millions more without health care
14. Poor quality jobs
And on, and on…..and you have “strong leaders” like Glen Beck? Beck is so far around the bend that he meets himself coming. He puts the lunatic in lunatic fringe.
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Dan in SC, I agree completely. For racism to cease we all must be equal under the law not just protected groups. I would love to see obama lead on this issue but so far it seems as though he’s more concerned with divide and conquer than bringing all together.
Posted by: Kelsy Green | May 3, 2009, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
sandy, you’re kiddding. right?
Posted by: Kelsy Green | May 3, 2009, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
The far right conservative base of the GOP and FoxNews are already slamming Justice Souter even befor he leaves because the man does not have a family……SO WHAT!!
Just because the man cannot be “bought” like Justice Scalia was with his 2000 Presidential Election opinion by his son Eugene receiving a plush job in the Bush Administration with the Department of Labor!
I wish Justice Souter would stay another 10 years we need more integrity and less “EGOS” on the bench.
Posted by: Rich | May 3, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Frank – Dude, I’m there with you, Barney and Nancy should have stood up and said NO! I’m no fan of theirs! I would like to see them retired! But we did have a commander in chief that allowed this! Right!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Dan in SC: I have nothing against jews–since I am one. Also, Sandy: The Republicans brought to us another treat… THAT IDIOTIC WOMAN!
Posted by: FS | May 3, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
Dan In SC posted “FS – what is this “neo-con” you speak of? Don’t you know that’s an anti-Semitic term! ”
I have never heard that as an anti-Semitic term. It is short for Neo Conservative, something you know quite well.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm
try the truth – yeah whatever. You can come down off your high horse now.
You want to sit there and equate the waterboarding we did to 3 terrorists who we KNEW had knowledge about planned attacks on THIS country to waterboarding and cutting off the fingers or our troops???? The information they gained from these interrogation techniques provided information that save American lives!!! Does that not matter to you at all???? Do you not understand that the first job of our intelligence community is to protect the lives of the American people??? I have to wonder which side you are on?
And what is this crap about having to have served before you can have an opinion?? Last time I checked, Obama NEVER served! So what makes him an expert on this topic??? At least GWB served in the national guard!
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Ok people I need to make dinner for a man that served and paid for it! Dan, no reason to answer anything we said, it isn’t fair, we’re not here and if you want to diss a service man, says alot about you. Walk in another persons shoes, I tie his every day.Do me one favor, I have no right to ask, tape your thumb, index and middle finger of what ever hand you use, then talk to us. Then wage a battle to get benefits for over a year, when your bread and butter deals with you being able to use your hands. When you still have infections and they want to take you hand with no guarantee that you will get benefits! The only reason we have benefits is HRC came to my paper. Yeah, I’m part of the media, Valerie Jarrett called personally. We are working very hard to get benefits for others, until you or yours have served stop!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
Hatch is using code that they GOP fanatical base is not happy!
Posted by: scott jeffries | May 3, 2009 11:51:29 AM
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Why do you feel the need to refer to GOP supporters as fanatical? I am a GOP supporter and find your comment highly offensive. Just because someone opposes tax-payer sponsored abortion of the unborn does not make them a fanatic. Normal people are opposed to abortion simply because they are genetically predisposed to be that why. There is nothing fanatical about it. The fact that you don’t like this changes nothing.
Posted by: rennin1 | May 3, 2009, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
sandy | May 3, 2009 4:42:20 PM
Hey, Sandy, I couldn’t go with you, because Obama has spawned too much negative damages to American in historically as follows ;
biggest debts ($13,600,000,000,000.00)-2012 year,
biggest budgets($3,600,000,000,000.00),
biggest printing of money($1,000,000,000,000.00)-finished printing on Mar.20,2009,
biggest expensive of Inauguration and The Apology Tour ’09,
biggest spending for ABORTION, 1,000,000,000.00 to Foreign Countries,
biggest aiding $980,000,000.00 for TERROR GROUP OF HAMAS,
most submissive foreign policy with Hugo and Fidel Carstro,
biggest Governments w/smallest efficience,
biggest Admin. who are controlled by tax-cheaters and pro-abortion,
IN THE TIME OF
biggest economic crisis,
biggest chaotic Stock Market in Wall St.
highest rate of unemployeds,
highest rate of foreclosure.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE??
Posted by: Unhappy w 3.6 trillion budget | May 3, 2009, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
I am a GOP supporter and find your comment highly offensive. Just because someone opposes tax-payer sponsored abortion of the unborn does not make them a fanatic. Normal people are opposed to abortion simply because they are genetically predisposed to be that why
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Fine and dandy, buit sooner or later you have to understand that the GOP has done nothing, and will do nothing about abortion
Posted by: Thinking | May 3, 2009, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Oh well, looks like the thought police are starting to delete my posts, so Im outta here.
Posted by: Dan In SC | May 3, 2009, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Dan, your’s an mine both! Could that be you, trying to garner sympathy? Since you don’t have a leg to stand on? Most likely!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 5:22 pm 5:22 pm
Dan In SC posted “They have nothing to do with classical conservatives like myself.”
And most references to neocons have nothing to do with being Jewish. The phrase has been used many times to denote a political agenda that supports using force to spread democracy and are willing to have government get involved in welfare programs.
I did find an article about the Jewish aspect of the term neocon, but most talked about neocons in purely political terms.
I also remember why being gay meant being happy. Time change.
So you’re a classical conservative. Do you find it frustrating that neo-conservatism has kidnapped your party? Do you find it maddening that people will vote Republican just because of the name and don’t realize that this is NOT the GOP of old? Personally, I donated money and voted for Ron Paul, but look how the GOP treated him.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
What does man profit if he gains the
whole world but loses his soul? God settles all accounts. God has the final say. Look to him instead of politics so you will be ready when Jesus Christ returns!
Posted by: R. Pfau | May 3, 2009, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Unhappy w 3.6 trillion budget posted “WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE??”
Hard to say, too many distortions of the facts. Too many of those bad things were in place when he took over. Obama did NOT take over during a strong economy (as you well know).
So bottom line, if you have to resort to distortions then your arguments must be pretty weak.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
The Supreme Court in 1896 ruled in “Plessy versus Ferguson” that racial segregation in the schools was OK. By a 9-0 ruling in 1954, the Supreme Court declared segregated schools unconstitutional. However, not a single word in the Constitution regarding equality of the races had changed in those intervening 58 years. So I guess God’s Own Party must still be VERY upset with those ACTIVIST JUDGES who made us a better more civilized country. Maybe this is why only 21% of Americans recently polled are willing to admit they’re Republicans!
Posted by: AlChemist | May 3, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
I just don’t see how we can afford universal healthcare, universal daycare, shore up social security and medicare, allow the social benefits system to be played by noncitizens and still prosper as a nation. How is that possible? It’s a Democrat fantasy world.
Posted by: Kelsy Green | May 3, 2009, 5:43 pm 5:43 pm
R. Pfau |- Might want to ask that of GWB & DC! Not all are christians you know! I believe in the new testiment, loving forgiving, you? Oh, didn’t you know this country is not founded on your “Christian” values. Is this about your beliefs or is it including all? Sorry, the Christian Talban is no better than the one in Afghanistan, although they are not Christian.
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Waterboarder: the term “kool-aid” died its natural death long ago. But you neo-cons can keep up the old rhetoric. Just goes to show how lost your party really is.
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Josh from South Carolina | – Thank you Josh, the real GOP of the past was not this. We know it’s not all you fine folks from SC! Actually, I love SC!
Posted by: try the truth | May 3, 2009, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
R. Pfau posted: What does man profit if he gains the whole world but loses his soul? God settles all accounts. God has the final say.
Ya know I like that. I think this is why we now have our President. Think about that a bit. A Black man elected to the Presidency of the United States of America with the name of Barack Hussein Obama? …He does work in mysterious ways doesn’t he… So, let it be written. So, let it be done. HALLELLUAH! Praises to the Lord!
Posted by: FS | May 3, 2009, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
I think many people supported Obama because of the balance of the court. We have had enough of the limus test, Dobson approved justices.
We need a court that embodies the principles of the Federlist Papers and who understands the impact of their decisions upon people.
Hatch is using code that they GOP fanatical base is not happy!
Posted by: scott jeffries
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The Federalist Papers you refer to say that the Executive and the Legislative Branch of the government makes the law and that the Judicial Branch INTERPRETS the law.
The GOP wants a justice that INTERPRETS the law while YOUR party wants a justice that MAKES the law. Evidently it is YOUR party who wants to go against what the Founding Fathers wanted.
Who are the fanatics scott?
Posted by: marco | May 3, 2009, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Sen. Hatch needs to get over himself, Republicans have so stacked the Court to the Extreme Right that it will take decades to undo the damage they have done. President obama needs to appoint a left of center Justice to at least maintain the current imbalance that exists, and not let it drift even further right.
Hey Republicans, we had an election in November and you got spanked along with your agenda being rejected. Enough of the right Wing Activist Judges, time for a sea change back to the left side.
Posted by: Dave The Cynic
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If the court were made up of people from the “Extreme Right”, I’m sure abortion would have been outlawed by this time. Roe vs Wade hasn’t been touched.
Judging by your own post, the extremists are obviously on YOUR side of the fence.
…. and just in case you’ve forgotten, there is another Congressional election in 2010. Because your party has gotten so carried away and is force-feeding far left liberalism on us, I have no doubt YOU guys will be getting the next “spanking”.
Posted by: marco | May 3, 2009, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Good new. The economic expert(s) that predicted the recession is now saying that we will see it end by Summers end.
The other good news is Obama can pick who he wants. See, that’s what the winner can do. Who cares about some republican whining about it. When they win they can select who they want.
Posted by: CAW | May 3, 2009, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
The GOP has just one goal, and that is to prevent President Obama from doing anything helpful to our country. The GOP is now the “party of no”, the party of sore losers, and the party of lost radicals with only fanatics and wackos leading the pack.
Posted by: James B———————————That’s true as the GOP has only one hope in 2010, 2012 and that is Obama fails. They cant win on their own merit. That’s why they spend so much time whining and bashing the other guy instead of selling themselves. Nothing with the GOP has changed and they probably wont. In 2012 they still will be scratching their heads and wondering why they lost again.
Posted by: CAW | May 3, 2009, 6:12 pm 6:12 pm
Kelsy Green regarding “shore up social security and medicare”. Repubs wanted a tax! The last fix for health care from Bush/Rove and then by McCain was taxing the money people pay for health benefits! If your employer pays a share then that is taxable also. The taxpayers and insured people are already packing the load with higher premiums so let’s tax them. Conservative values taxing the money people pay for health insurance? Then there is Bush vetoing Medicare negotiating directly with the pharmaceutical companies. We have a failing system (Social Security) funded by our tax dollars vs two huge private entities, pharmaceutical and insurance companies. Medicare negotiates price with doctors, hospitals and medical supplies but let’s not negotiate with pharmaceutical companies. Ron Paul one of the few repubs that voted for the tax payers! Let’s see who would I vote with?
Posted by: rickyt1234 | May 3, 2009, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
A “pro-abortion” justice? Nobody I know is “pro-abortion” we’re pro-choice. Talk about inflaming the base. I don’t think Joseph Smith would be very proud of him — Brigham Young on the other hand????
Posted by: lennyp | May 3, 2009, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
“pro-abortion”—-ahhh ,yes, when asked, hypothetically, about 30% of the country claims to be anti abortion. THEORETICALLY, because when couples are told they have a Down Syndrome fetus developing, a whopping 94% ABORT!!!! All of a sudden when it comes to their lives, their ‘inconvenience’, their financial woes, all of a sudden, they seem to excercise their right to ‘choice’ after all, huh? Hypocrits!! and that doesn’t even factor in folks like me, who did NOT choose abortion for a child that was diagnoses with a defect, but I am prochoice, because I never want to force a girl to develope and birth a baby against her will. But for ME, I would never abort. And I know plenty of prochoice women who wouldn’t so choose for themselves, so you can only imagine how many anti choice hypocrits are out there when you consider 94% exercise ‘choice’ when the going got tough.
Posted by: jen | May 3, 2009, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
“Pray liberals in our government will not be able to lie” —we are still oozing from a war that was started based on lies from a right wing Christian. over 4000 people died and hundreds of thousands of Americans are disabled thanks to a lie from a “Christian”. You’re living in a glass house. Put down your stones.
Posted by: just say'n | May 3, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Hatch says he will consider President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominee but says he’s worried the president might pick a judicial activist instead of someone who bases decisions on the law. Activist judge? Like the Justices who became involved in the Terri Schiavo case and who handed Bush the Presidency in 2000?
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 6:29 pm 6:29 pm
Hope I do not get my head bitten off for this. I am a proud Obama voter as a Ind and once republican. Abortion– Freedom of choice is a good thing.No religious belief should be used to adapt policy. However abortion is a problem in this country. To many woman and girls use it like berth control. Over and over again. I do not know which is worse. A woman that has baby after baby for a bigger Gov check or a person that uses the system and abortions over and over. I do think women should have a choice as its their body. However I personally think it should not be used lightly and that person seeking an abortion to have to go through hoops to get one. That way these immature girls and loose woman that are not even responsible enough to use contraception wont be able to easily get one and may remember that next time. I do realize accidents can happen and a women’s health come in to the picture as well.
Posted by: CAW | May 3, 2009, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm
To many woman and girls use it like berth control. Over and over again.–who??? You know someone who does this? Let me tell you, I know of women, who as girls, got abortions. Once. It only takes once. Why did they do it? Gee, just guess. Strict violent parents they could come clean with, one set threatened to throw her out, another father beat her on the best of days, another had a drunk of a father…think about it. who were the sleeziest girls you know? I can tell you, the girls who had the lousy fathers. Nothing screws up a girl’s confidence, makes her look for “love” (which for boys is really sex) than having a father who is an idiot. Boys give ‘love’ to get sex, girls give sex to get love. If you have a problem with girls having sex, maybe you need to take fathers to task, maybe you need to take boys to task, because of the girls I know who got knocked up and were abandoned to choose abortion, there was on common theme in their lives – crappy men.
Posted by: Mary | May 3, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
I see Hatch has added a tinfoil hat to go with his magic underwear.
Posted by: Clint | May 3, 2009, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm
“SamTyler1973 and TRIED OF THESE OLD WHTIE WHINNING REPUBICANS” Thanks for your point out. I, however, think the facts I described are not distorted.
Today, the clock of debts says US$11,237,850,000,000.00 and as i mentioned the debt, 13.6 trillions will be in 2012. Most the facts comes from DeficitsDoMatter.org, Treasury Dept. Google.com and wikipedia.org and so on. You can easily confirm or search the facts through them.
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TRIED OF THESE OLD WHTIE WHINNING REPUBICANS! – I was not happy with the two wars, neither but the Bill of two wars were approved more 60% of the Senators and House Reps. including Hillary Cliton, Joe Liberman and the other Democratic Senators.
Posted by: Unhappy w 3.6 Trillion Budget | May 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
However I personally think it should not be used lightly and that person seeking an abortion to have to go through hoops to get one.– How dare you! You dont want your head cut off?? Too bad! Consider yourself beheaded ,because what kind of country do you think we live in that some girl has to go groveling to anyone to get permission to NOT have to carry a pregnancy to temr against their will!!! It is obscene to suggest that the government, you, or anyone else, would have such dominion over another person’s body that you would dictate to them they MUST develope and birth a baby against thier will! Do you think involuntary servitude is legal in this country???? No matter if the constition has a privacy inherent, one thing is clear, it is NOT legal and it IS protected in the constitution that NOBODY had dominion over another person’s body! THAT was guarrenteed when slavery was outlawed. Maybe you WANT someone to keep that embryo in thier body, but you CANNOT force them, and just like with ‘jumping through hoops’ to vote for blacks, which really meant, they can’t vote, THAT IS ILLEGAL as well. YOu cannot force someone to do manual labor against their will, period. Pregnancy IS LABOR! 24/7 for 9 months, it’s work, it’s a job, developing a baby and you CANNOT force someone to do it ,and you have no right to ‘make someone jump through hoops’ becuase they do not want to do this labor! HOw about this -how about we make fat people ‘jump through hoops’ for heart surgery. It was their own bad choices that made them fat, made them need surgery, so say no. make them loose 30 pounds first, THEN they can get the surgery and if they die first, too bad. We should control what they can and cannot do with their bodies because we know better, right????
Posted by: matt | May 3, 2009, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
but the Bill of two wars were approved more 60% of the Senators and House Reps—they were lied to by bush and cheney. They believed their president, that’s why they voted to give him permission to go to war if needed, but in the end, the ONLY ONE who says ‘charge’ is Bush ,and the one who lied about it, who said “we not only know they have WMD, we know where they are..” the ones who LIED about it, pushed for, and blacklisted anyone who speak against it was republicans.
Posted by: frank | May 3, 2009, 7:11 pm 7:11 pm
Mary ————-Calm down. Jeez- I was talking about some and and very few woman. You know as I do there are too many abortions in this country. Sounds as if you are really bitter. Of Course it takes two and the father should have to go to every single counseling or other with the mother. Sorry my post upset you so much. On the fathers side i will never forget a girlfriend of mine I thought I loved dearly. I was young them. She was pregnant and went and got an abortion and didn’t tell me about the pregnancy or abortion until afterwords and it just about crushed me. And by the way not all women lay under a man for the same reasons.
Posted by: CAW | May 3, 2009, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Some are mistaken what I meant in my post. Freedom of choice is a good thing. Did you guys and gals read that? However I think things should be in place such as counseling and knowledge about adoption. That what I mean by going through hoops. Don’t just read the lines that you want and then comment.
Posted by: CAW | May 3, 2009, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm
Dan- Your comments would be amusing if I didn’t think you were serious. You absolutely prove my point about looking at your reflection and decrying what you see as the faults of others.
I certainly prefer Roberts to Rehnquist but he is a judicial activist in the cases he is allowing to come before the court. Alito, like Scalia and Thomas, proclaim strict constructionalism but only inasmuch as it subserves a political agenda. For example, why is the right to bear arms sacrosanct but freedom of speech less or other intrusions of government less protected.
But I grow weary of the mindless arguments here, particularly with so-called conservatives (you don’t know me and odds are that I am more conservative than you) who think that honesty and loyalty to the party are incompatible. I am tired of labels (“liberal”, “socialist”, etc) as an excuse to not have a meaningful idea or retort.
Posted by: MIguy | May 3, 2009, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Lies of the left….i seriously don’t wanna hear it. The right lied to us, right to our faces for eight years and all we could do was swallow it and try not hurl. The democrats won, they have every right to nominate someone that they see as fit for the post. Not just republicans can be impartial…*snickers*
Posted by: Jaxitty | May 3, 2009, 7:25 pm 7:25 pm
Obama’s description of what he is looking for in a judge fits mine perfectly. I really could care less what Orrin Hatch wants. Obama should pick a justice who reflects his values.
Posted by: sosupernova | May 3, 2009, 7:28 pm 7:28 pm
“Activist judges” is right wing “code” for not going to decide things the way we want them to.
Posted by: koznferg | May 3, 2009, 7:30 pm 7:30 pm
What would be the “code” for narrow minded bigot? These repulsive people are chocking on their own HYPOCRACY !! Anyone watching Fox News,lately or viewed parts of the GOP convention would think they were watching “AMERICAS MOST WANTED”!
Posted by: Sharon W | May 3, 2009, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm
However I think things should be in place such as counseling and knowledge about adoption. —-oh, because nobody ever heard of adoption. Hey, hop over to ‘boston.com’ today’s version and catch the article on the post trauma of carrying a pregnancy to term only to give up the baby. Screws up women. There is no way around the fact that an unwanted pregnancy is just a choice of crappy options, no matter how you size it up. Adoptive kids will the first ones to tell you it stunk being adopted, read the article on the women who give up hte babies, women who’ve had abortoins say they weren’t too thrilled with having their choice, the best choice is prevention and to that end, I think we should focus alot more resources on counceling BEFORE girls get pregnant, including birht control, making birth control more easily available and we need to add to the counceling the obvious – girls who have father issues end us sexually active at an early age. we need to recognize that and do something about it, becuaes if you can root out WHY girls are looking for love at so early and age, that is teh best way to ensure what they actually get IS love, from their parents, or from someone who isn’t using it as a great way to get them to give you sex for some little attention becuase they’re screwed up from their parents. It’s always fun to just bash girls, bash women, but when you actually are looking at reality, what we’re really talking about is abandoned girls who have no affection and no love in their lives walking around in bodies that young boys want to have. It’s a dangerous combination. I think our ‘sex ed’ classes need to address the ‘father issue’ heads on. WOuld girls change their behavior if you just say, straight up, if you have a strained relationship with your father, beware, you are at increased risk of becoming sexually active earlier, you are increased risk for having an unwanted pregnancy. Would that makes girls think – whoa! that’s me! am I doing that??? It may help alot more than making someone ‘jump through hoops’ that’s for sure. If you have a problem with a problem, try actually going after the CAUSE, not the symptom.
Posted by: mary | May 3, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Unhappy w 3.6 trillion budget posted —–
….and The Apology Tour ’09,
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Distortion one, the Apology Tour? Obama said truthfully that there were problems on both sides. And he went to Europe to do more than apologize.
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Distortion two, biggest spending for ABORTION.
From the news…..
President Obama struck down a rule Friday that prohibits U.S. money from funding international family-planning clinics that promote abortion or provide counseling or referrals about abortion services. It is for family planning, not abortion.
Hardly giving money for just abortions.
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Distortion three -> biggest aiding $980,000,000.00 for TERROR GROUP OF HAMAS,
From the news….
The White House sought the change as part of a bill authorizing $840 million for the Palestinian Authority as well as for rebuilding Gaza after this year’s 22-day Israeli military assault.
The “Hamas” part of this is because Gaza is trying to from a new unity government and some of the members might be backed by Hamas. This is NOT money to go to Hamas
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Distortion four -> most submissive foreign policy with Hugo and Fidel Carstro,
Wow, he shook hands with Hugo and is easing restriction put upon Cuba during the cold war. Wars over folks, no need for this embargo nonsense to go on.
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IN THE TIME OF
Distortion ???? -> I give up trying to number them. let’s see
biggest economic crisis -> crisis was here before he was sworn in
biggest chaotic Stock Market in Wall St. -> Stock market fell about 1500 point under Obama. In the mean time it has rebound. It was under 8000 when Obama was sworn in, Friday it closed at 8212.41. You call that chaotic. Here’s chaotic for you .. .Under Bush the DJA fell from a high of around 14000 to under 8000 when Obama was sworn in. A drop of over 6000.
highest rate of unemployeds,
highest rate of foreclosure.
Same as before, these conditions existed long before Obama was sworn in.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 8:02 pm 8:02 pm
there are too many abortions in this country.—-I know there are too many unwanted pregnancies in this country. I know there are too many girls giving up the farm becuase they are desperate for love, they have crappy fathers, and do note, when I say fathers, i do not mean the boys who got them pregnant, I mean FATHERS of the girls who get pregnant!!! The biggest person who failed when a teenager gets pregnant, is the FATHER of that girl! A had a GREAT father and I can easily tell you that was the biggest deterent from me getting pregnant, not becuase he was strict, or mean, or controlling, no, my friends had father’s like that. No, no, that only makes girls want love more. A father who just loves you, who hugs you, who talks to you, who loves you no matter what! That is the biggest deterent to a girl NOT getting into boys and sex. The girls I know who got abortions, who stayed in school, grew up, got married years later and THEN had their children, in secure homes, long after their teenage insecurities were overcome, no, I dont think those abortoins were mistakes. sorry. I do not. They are early, nearly immediately, and those women did have children later, under great circumstances that would have never materialized if htey were single mothers when they met their husbands – their husbands under those conditions would have never looked at them twice. What I think we need less of, is unwanted pregnancies ,but no, absolutely not ,I do not want to see more of these unwanted pregnancies turned into births. no, not all. I see zero reason for that unless it’s what the girl WANTS to do. Pregnancy is an act of sacrafice and love. I know. I’ve done it many times. You cannot force anyone to do it. That is insane and a very very bad idea. In fact, it’s illegal, it’s involuntary servitude. strike down privacy if you like, who cares. It’s slavery. And it’s illegal. we live in a free country. Live with that or move to the Taliban if you want to bully women around and execute young men and women for having sex. Not in this country. In this country we are free.
Posted by: mary | May 3, 2009, 8:08 pm 8:08 pm
Such hate and vitriol from the left. Conservatives attack ideas and liberals attack people. Take a look at the posts.
I live in Utah and Hatch is anything but conservative. He has proposed more bipartisan legislation with Kennedy than any other Republican I know.
The supreme court has one job, to interpret law based on the constitution. And while the constitution and this country is still a democratic republic, that is the way it should be. If you want a socialist country let the judges be activists. Let them make decisions based on their own point of view, not the law. For me, I want a judge who understands the constitution and bases all decisions based on that NOT on politics or personal prejudices. (left or right)
Posted by: Mrs.Plasticman | May 3, 2009, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm
What in the “great green granny” does speaking in “code” mean. Whose code? What code? The Dailey Show is going to have a “field day” with this. This is too too crazy. So true! It’s too funny … if comedy writers WROTE this stuff, it would be a stretch … but the Republicans provide us with all of the material we need … politics as a comedy!
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm
Nothing Obama has done so far has made sense for this country, why should we expect anything different on this. He certainly fooled me.
Posted by: Justin | May 3, 2009, 8:43 pm 8:43 pm
Justin: “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak out and remove all doubt.” Abraham Lincoln
You certainly have removed all doubt!
Besides, “A fool sees not the same tree that a wise man sees.” Wulliam Blake President Obama is the wise man, you are but the fool.
Posted by: sandy | May 3, 2009, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm
LOL – Really BO is the wise man? Where you see wisdom, I see inexperience and naivity. Being a good orator (when reading a teleprompter) is not the same as being wise.
Wisdom is the founding fathers. Wisdom is Ronald Reagan. Wisdom is Bejamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson.
Wisdom is not taking the worlds foremost leader of freedom, success and individual rights down the path of socialism.
Who in the world is coming up with a vaccination for the raging flu? The US pharmaceutical companies. Why because they can. We should not be apologizing for our success and for our constitution. We should not be apologizing for being defenders of freedom in Europe and the middle east. We should not apologize for being the greeatest, God blessed country in the world. We are who we are because of the wisdom that came before.
Wisdom sees that and doesn’t go on an apology tour or bow to foreign kings or have social photo-ops with evil dictators.
Wise? please………..
Posted by: Mrs.Plasticman | May 3, 2009, 9:26 pm 9:26 pm
Seems to me by saying he’s looking for someone more empathetic than a white male that that is definately “code” for something.
Posted by: Maria | May 3, 2009, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm
Look at Hatch trying to tell constitutional lawyer Obama what to consider when nominating a SCOTUS.
Funny isn`t it?
Posted by: keith | May 3, 2009, 9:55 pm 9:55 pm
Mrs.Plasticman posted “Wisdom is Ronald Reagan. ”
Oh please, not the “Reagan the greatest of all time” nonsense. Only the far right believe that. I remember his voodoo economics, HUGE deficit spending, deregulating the Savings & Loans (that REALLY worked out great, didn’t it), Iran/Contra (Nancy : Ron, have you seen the toilet paper? Ron : No honey, just use that piece of paper labeled Constitution of the United States). A light-weight like Reagan should never be mentions with the likes of Franklin or Jefferson.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 10:09 pm 10:09 pm
Yeah all that bouncing out of a recession of the 1980′s was horrible. Interest rates dropping like lead was awful and that whole Me-generation success and the boom of the silicon valley thing was rotten.
And don’t misquote me. I didn’t say he was the greatest of all time. But Reagan was a dang sight more wise than Obama. How about freeing the Iranian hostages, breaking the USSR, the Berlin wall coming down. He knew about foreign policy and being tough on bad guys.
Posted by: Mrs.Plasticman | May 3, 2009, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm
Mrs.Plasticman posted “Wisdom sees that and doesn’t go on an apology tour or bow to foreign kings or have social photo-ops with evil dictators.”
Sorry, but he didn’t do any of those things. AS PART OF A SPEECH he said “”In America, there is a failure to appreciate Europe’s leading role in the world.
“Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.”
He then balanced this striking admission with a tough message to Europeans that blaming America and using its actions as an excuse to avoid tackling the global Islamist threat was unacceptable.
“But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognising the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what is bad.”
One comment during one speech is NOT an Apology Tour. Furthermore he was right. Under Bush we WERE arrogant.
As for bowing to foreign kings. Well, bowing is what one does in the presence of a king or queen. Heck, G.W.Bush KISSED the same king on both cheeks.
As for that photo op, do you REALLY want me to list all the bad guys Bush or Bush Sr. Or His Holiness (better know as Reagan) had pictures taken with? I have a few nice pictures of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam, Reagan’s old buddy if you want to see them.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 10:26 pm 10:26 pm
Mrs.Plasticman posted “How about freeing the Iranian hostages, breaking the USSR, the Berlin wall coming down. He knew about foreign policy and being tough on bad guys.”
And he could change the course of mighty rivers, bend steel in his bare hands…..
1) Sorry honey, but Carter got those hostages out. They were on their way home before Reagan was sworn in. Unless you believe that rumor that Reagan cut a deal behind the back of Carter with the Iranians to swing the election for him. But that would be treason, besides we all know that Reagan doesn’t make deals with Iran (hahahaha).
SuperReagan did NOT single handedly bring an end to the USSR. What NONSENSE. There were so many forces at work for DECADES. Perhaps you can tell my uncle who died in Korea that he wasted his life? Tell all our brave dead and wounded that we only had to wait until Reagan got into office to defeat the USSR.
And tough on bad guys? Is that why he TUCKED TAIL and RAN after the bombing in Lebanon?
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm
Mrs.Plasticma posted “And don’t misquote me. I didn’t say he was the greatest of all time. ”
Yeah, all you did was put him in the same level as Jefferson and Franklin. I must have leaped to the wrong conclusion that you that he was great.
Posted by: SamTyler1973 | May 3, 2009, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm
Activist Judge: Republican term for any judge who does not vote in lock step with Republican religious, social or ideological dogma.
More please, thank you.
Posted by: Chris1967 | May 3, 2009, 11:32 pm 11:32 pm
Confirmation of what most of us have known for years. Repubs have no hearts..just bank accounts.
Posted by: B. Bear | May 4, 2009, 12:03 am 12:03 am
Now that we have established that torture is wrong then murdering the unborn will have to stop as well. Finally justice for all!
Posted by: R. Pfau | May 4, 2009, 2:54 am 2:54 am
Be real… It’s his party and Hatch is crying like a…. b
Posted by: gwilsing | May 4, 2009, 5:03 am 5:03 am
Im a democrat and he needs to put a judge on the supreme court that doesnt make up law that is what gets some of these criminals off in open shut cases the justice doesnt make law it upholds the law but I think Obama will do the court some good by putting some youth on the court but if there was anything that agreed with Bush which rare was his supreme court picks dont go making up laws and punishments, let the elected lawmakers do their job, wait minute congress sucks at that, maybe i should rethink this. haha.
Posted by: Qt of Chattanooga | May 4, 2009, 5:27 am 5:27 am
“Hey Republicans, we had an election in November and you got spanked along with your agenda being rejected.”
Wow! I never knew John McCain was an extreme right winger! I thought he was a moderate along with the other 13 that blocked the nuclear option in congress. I stand corrected.
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 9:49 am 9:49 am
“Under Bush the DJA fell from a high of around 14000 to under 8000 when Obama was sworn in. A drop of over 6000.”
Yes, and we can thank President Bush for writing the first TARP bailout package while also saying “I have abandoned free market principles to save the free market system” for that. Horrible!
So the solution is…more bailout money and more abandonment of the free market? Uhh…not the way to encourage people to put money INTO the economy!
Posted by: Greg | May 4, 2009, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Why did the GOP turn far to the right? They are kicking out the moderates at just the time that they need everyone they can get to survive the 2010 elections. The GOP has been gagged by Hannity and Limbaugh and continues to careen to the right by rejecting all that is Obama and Democratic. Specter realized this. When will Michael Steele and company realize it? It’s called being inclusive not exclusive. Being more tolerant is the key – listening to others opinions and not just Fox News.
Posted by: Bob | May 4, 2009, 10:16 am 10:16 am
I can tell you that empathy does not and should not play any part in a Judges decision of any case. Yes a Judge can feel sorry or even angry with the case in front of him but LAW and LAW ALONE must always be the deciding factor in their decisions. Without this we may as well live in russia where all decisions are still political.
Posted by: lovingpolitics | May 4, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm
Assigning radical judges? Hatch must mean “politicized judges” like Bush did. His choices, and the other Republican judges, allowed the court to be controlled by a far-right wing agenda, much to the detriment of the American people. Invalid argument, Sen. Hatch…
Posted by: DaveM | May 4, 2009, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm
What idiotic commentary on the part of Hatch. I know, conservative yahoos like to complain about “activist” judges, but really, every single Supreme Court judge is an activist in that they seek to implement their own world view/ideology on the law. Those who claim otherwise – Scalia and his little lap dog Thomas – are just trying to obscure the issue. And really, anyone who tells you they interpret the Constitution according to “original intent” is just lying to your face. How do they know what they “original intent” is? What makes anyone think that the writers of the Constitution had any “intent” in writing it than what they said. More conservative BS that no one believes anymore. As a philosophy, you can see the decline of conservatism with each passing day, because it simply does not provide answers to the problems people are facing today. Look at the last election…..
Posted by: whybeconservative? | May 4, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Also, very telling commentary: “He’s also said that a judge has to be a person of empathy — what does that mean?” — Like many conservatives, Mr. Hatch is apparently unacquainted with the concept of “empathy.” Oh well…..
Posted by: whybeconservative? | May 4, 2009, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm
The Republicans, or better said, the conservatives, have their code words also. “Activist judge” is only one of them. I suppose this means any judge who takes part in decisions finding as unconstitutional those laws favored by Republicans? C´mon, Senator Hatch, don´t be such a hypocrit!
Posted by: BachisBest | May 4, 2009, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
I thought Justice was supposed to be blind? Is one group supposed to be favored over another and receive more justice?
Posted by: Matt | May 4, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Do you think he can find a Judge who is not a tax cheat?
Posted by: me | May 4, 2009, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
The GOP has not moved to the right at all. The Democrats have moved so far left (ie socialism) that any conservative thought is so far right of where they are even left of middle is considered radical conservativism.
Please tell me where the right has moved more right. We have always been against abortion, for marriage, for fiscal responsibility, for morality, less gov’t and focus on idividual rights. Bush was not a conservative, McCain was the actual democrat in the race.
And Sam Tyler all I can say is despite the 1973 in your name, there is NO way you lived through the 80′s with your view of Reagan. They sent the hostages home when Reagan was elected because they KNEW he was going to kick the begeezes out their behinds if the hostages weren’t released.
Of course bringing the USSR down was not single handed but he led the charge and he crippled them with the arms race and the idea of starwars missle defense. Give credit where credit is due.
As far as radical judges, I am assuming you mean people who interpret the constitution as it was orginally intended, not a revisionist. Well that IS my kind of radical judge.
Posted by: Mrs.Plasticman | May 5, 2009, 1:15 am 1:15 am
Truthfully I’m getting weary of the republicans He has the right to choose anyone he feels is right for the job and not what the republicans want. When they were in power, they chose whomever they wanted so back off. I am so tired of their complaining and bitterness. This constant complaining is not helping their party and makes them look old and a party of the past.
Posted by: talmag | May 5, 2009, 9:04 am 9:04 am
Dan in SC: What polls are you reading? He has a 61% approval rating. If it were not for the mess the previous administration ignored, we would not have to spend this money or lose all these jobs if steps were taken under Bush to ward off this economy. Now, you blame Obama for this mess. What a joke….where were you for the past 8 yrs? It did not start Jan 09 but long before and was totally ignored. The tarp money was first given out by Bush and with no conditions. Too little, too late. I don’t know how the republicans think that the world does not know how or why we are in this economy, however, signs are showing that we are getting better so will you take credit for that or give Obama credit? Let’s see….me thinks the former rather than the later.
Posted by: talmag | May 5, 2009, 9:15 am 9:15 am
Mr. Hatch….as long as we are talking code words….I think the code word for predjudice is conservatism.
Posted by: talmag | May 5, 2009, 11:52 am 11:52 am
When a conservative looses a case in court the Judge is always called activist…Roe v Wade. Does a woman have a right to decide what happens to her own body? Or can the government force you to have a child? Sometimes judges have to correct the wrong perpitrated by bad or unintended law.
The anti-Obama folks cannot be swayed by facts, they are slaves to their failed idiology. We have about 12 to 15 years before the average person forgets how badly the Republican Party and their leaders destroyed our country.
We need to get the important stuff done quickly and a justice like Bryer or Stevens or the retiring Souter who was a moderate Republican would do fine.
And you conspiracy buffs note, Souter was not a mole waiting in the wings, he was as the Constitution requires, a prudent jurist.
Posted by: blackie | May 5, 2009, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
The Supreme Court in 1896 ruled in “Plessy versus Ferguson” that racial segregation in the schools was OK. By a 9-0 ruling in 1954, the Supreme Court declared segregated schools unconstitutional. However, not a single word in the Constitution regarding equality of the races had changed in those intervening 58 years. So I guess God’s Own Party must still be VERY upset with those ACTIVIST JUDGES who made us a better more civilized country. Maybe this is why only 21% of Americans recently polled are willing to admit they’re Republicans!
Posted by: AlChemist | May 3, 2009 5:43:11 PM
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All I can say is “Owuch!!” and “LOL!”
Sock it to ‘em baby!!
Posted by: ahah | May 5, 2009, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
Mr. Hatch….if you feel President Obama is using code to represent liberalism in choosing a new judge, I feel you are using code when you speak using conservatism as a code for predjudice. You know and we all know that you will oppose anyone he chooses and that is a fact. I hope you prove me wrong but I doubt it.
Posted by: talmag | May 7, 2009, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm
Supreme Court is supposed to represent everyone, conservatives as well as liberals. I think we need an Asian- American on our Supreme Court. Asian-Americans are minorities who have contributed a great deal to America, while abiding by the law. Unlike other minorities, they don’t try to push their own agenda; they don’t rely on federal assistance; they are not hateful and belligerant like some minority activists who try to force their issues down our throats.
Posted by: paul | May 10, 2009, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm
hey, i great idea!! why doesn’t obuma (i think he is a bum) nominate HIMSELF for the supreme court. after all, he is so much more intelligent and well, just so much better than the rest of us…plus, he has that messiah thing going for him. (sad part is that he has probably already considered this.)
Posted by: busterhoot | May 13, 2009, 8:59 pm 8:59 pm