House GOP to Force Vote on Pelosi

this will backfire because the republicans go on record for chasing this instead of totrtue laws being broken.

Good! An investigation is a must. The circumstances merit investigation. Her allegations are first that she didn’t know about enhanced interrogation techniques being used then followed up that allegation with an assertion that the CIA mislead congress. This is not about torture. It’s about credibility. Both hers and the CIA’s. This breach of credibility on the part of either the third in line for the presidency or our primary foreign intelligence source must be resolved. The stories don’t match.

Good! An investigation is a must. The circumstances merit investigation.
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I totally agree. At least 4 indivuals have come forward with concerns over CIA accuracy in records that were compiled after the fact. Even one of the intitiators of the Pelosi controversy, Pete Hoefstra, has had issues on record over CIA veracity. Too bad the GOP has presented this vote only symbolically and primarily for media collusion and attention.

This is a good idea, yes thats what i said. and the dems need to vote for this, if not they go on the record for covering it up….we don’t need 8 more years of that.

“The GOP is hopeless. I haven’t heard, or seen a single constructive thought, idea, or plan from them.”
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No, what your seeing is that things that were in place are being torn down by this administration WITHOUT ANY PLAN OR THOUGHTS AT ALL.
Even the Dems in Congress realize now you can’t close GITMO and THEN deal with the aftermath. The American people DO NOT want these guys roaming our streets. None of these “high morals” Dems wants to go into an election having to face an opponent who could possibly say…
Do you really want to vote for him/her ? He/She allowed that Mr. X to roam free and he killed 5 people.”
Perhaps some of you & the mental midgets at the ACLU should have thought of these facts before you jumped on the CLOSE IT bandwagon.

This type of ignorant behavior is the reason I left the GOP.

I can’t believe anyone that watched this old bag can defend her still, even though it was VERY OBVIOUS she LIED-LIED-LIED !!!!! She cares nothing for any of us, we are just workers like in a colony of ants and she is the queen !!!!!People need to wake up, we don’t need to take this BS anymore!!!ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!!!

I’d support it as part of a wider investigation into the CIA’s lies and bunglings, starting perhaps with the CIA-funded and Reagan-approved mess in Afghanistan that fueled the rise of bin-Ladin and the Taliban. Lying to members of Congress is just a small part of the picture.

I hope they investigate quickly. Air needs cleared.

Let the issue be voted on, so people can see how tolerant the Democrats are about accused wrongdoing by their own leaders and are as morally bankrupt as the party they repeatedly accuse of wrongdoing. And let the investigation actually be held. Any exonerating information about what Pelosi did not know will be presented as well as incriminating information did know. There’s no reason to object to this investigation unless, as many Pelosi backers seem to fear, all paths on the mountain converge at the top and those on the top are equally corrupt.

More of the same from the GOP – toxic partisan rhetoric that distracts from the real work that needs to be accomplished. Show the slightest bit of weakness and they start to slash and burn. And they wonder why the American people slapped them down in the last two elections. They’ll keep this up until 2012, hoping for another “take back America” scenario. They even have that failure, Gingrich, hanging out on every news channel. Unfortunately, for them, America has the last disastrous 8 years fresh in its mind of when Republicans ruled and ran this country into the ground.

for those who think this will backfire on the gop…then let it happen as you will be happy. why do you think chennys speach was aired on networks other than fox? because of nancy pelosi and the fact that the media no longer trusts her. so lets investigate under oath and see waht the lady has to say. with a thirty percent approval rating i think the american people would love to see her step aside foe the good of the country.did you listen to obamas speech about the rule of law?

Mike_C…these people are not going to be walking around our streets. What don’t you understand about that. They will be in supermax prisons on 24 hour lockdown. They will be barely able to see the sun let alone walk around downtown and go shopping. You and everyone else who uses that argument is a moron and you’re hurting our national security with your fear mongering.

Rest assured, there are enough American people out here who WILL NOT REST until ALL the crimes of the Bush administration have been investigated and prosecuted, and in the process Republicans will get the full disclosure they are asking for. I can guarantee you personally, I will not rest, including following any possible avenue to bring a criminal complaint against people in the Obama administration for obstructing justice in the willful act of ‘looking forward’ and not backward on the Bush administrations criminal activity.
There is NO WAY IN HELL that this the Bush administration’s colony of sociopath’s and there activities will not be brought to full light AND prosecuted. I know people who will hound this administration to the end of it’s term including force legal action against it, if they continue to obstruct justice.
There are legal avenues, and if Obama wants to set himself up to be another Bush above the law, HE WILL BE FORCED TO TAKE THIS POSITION OVER AND OVER AND OVER until justice is brought against him.

It’s about time! Let’s get this hateful, lying woman out!!

Rightbehind,
Why are we in Afghanistan ?

Rightbehind,
Why are we in Afghanistan ?
Easy, Afghanistan is or was at the time thought to be the hiding place of osama bin laden. The alleged mastermind behind the hijacking plot. Originally to the best of my knowledge I believe we the US requested the terrorist al qaeda along with osama be turned over. The taliban refused. We attacked. I feel Okay with what we have done in afghanistan.

“Easy, Afghanistan is or was at the time thought to be the hiding place of osama bin laden.”
And YOU KNOW this how?

The question about detainment that has not been addressed and is possibly the most significant issue of all, has to do with potential attempts by people of interest to break their friends out of prison. As long as the detainees are on the island of Cuba in a max security prison the likelyhood of a prison break or attempts thereof are minimized because of the isolation of Guantanamo Bay. Even if they did somehow break out of prison they wouldn’t be a threat to us here on the mainland. If the prisoners are moved to US soil people of all persuasions will be able to come into the area of the prison(s) where they are detained. Security would be at alower level because of that factor. Therefore the propensity for a prison break is greatly increased. And should a breakout occur, they’d be in the midst of the innocent citizens of our country. So there’s no reason to move them other than the president’s promise to close Gitmo? Fact is, even as we debate, taxpayer dollars are funding the construction of a more secure prison facility at Gitmo because the contract to build a better prison had already been signed before Obama declared he’d close the facility.

“Easy, Afghanistan is or was at the time thought to be the hiding place of osama bin laden.”
And YOU KNOW this how?
Easy, That is the way it was presented to us by the news based on the intelligence presented. Notice I used the words, “at the time thought”. We made a decision or formed an opinion based on what was presented at the time just like pelosi. I still feel that afghanistan was a good decision. iraq was not. All of what was reported about iraq seems in error. Clearly a shortfall of intelligence. There are people that should be held accountable but I highly doubt it’s pelosi.

I think it’s hilarious how eager Republicans are to find out what Pelosi knew about the waterboarding that (wait for it) the Republican administration implemented. Best case scenario, Pelosi knew about torture. Worst case scenario, we know a LOT more about Bush’s and Cheney’s respective roles in human rights violations that severely undermine the credibility of the United States as a world leader.
But hey, if Republicans want this Pyrrhic victory, then they are more than welcome to it.

Dave – agreed 100%. The Bush Crime family must NOT get away with the rape of America. I am with you along with millions of other Americans who want answers and jail terms for the un-constitutional actions and outright crimes committed against America!

Yup, “more of the same from the GOP” – “toxic partisan rhetoric” when “real work” needs to be done. We’re right there with ya, Nancy! I doesn’t matter that you’re a liar, or that the “real” work that’s necessary is driving the country into a phenomenal mountain of debt. How COULD the GOP actually IMAGINE that they may even have a good point to make here?!?!? I mean, Nancy Pelosi?!?!? Why, she’s as pure as the driven snow – just ask Joe (“Hang on a sec, WHICH speech did I plagiarize again?” Biden!

The third in the Constitutional line of succession calling the CIA liars is anything but a distraction.The Speaker should be dis-qualified by default and Hoyer blaming Bush is the typical distraction.

So this nation’s citizens and politicians are mostly willing to engage in and fund the wars over there but not assume the responsibility for our engaging with our war’s enemies over here. Sounds cowardly to me. If I’m not mistaken in all of our previous wars some, if not all of our captured enemies were interned here. What happened to citizen courage and conviction? Its OK for our taxpayers to fund interning murderers, serial killers, etc. in our back yard, but we only taxpayer fund keeping war-on-terror participants in Gitmo, a symbol for Jihadists everywhere.

When you have not plan for the American people lets attacked the party in charge. What have the Republican did for the American people since President Obama been in office which is attack, attack, and attack no real solution to get the American people back on track.

Apparently Nancy’s supporters (KAT!) have forgotten that she’s one of the leading voices for investigating the Bush admin about torture so it’s poetic justice that she’s being called out for knowing about it.
Get with it folks – the GOP is not responsible for the economy. It’s the greedy CEO’s, bankers and Madoff’s that have caused the crisis. And don’t forget that it was the Dems (B. Franks) who controlled the House Banking & Financial Services Committee that helped create the banking & mortgage crisis
To Kat: Obama isn’t calling out the Republicans because HE knows Nancy knew

By the way, has the CIA ever been known to have lied to congress before? Just wondering if they actually would do something like that. I praise those in our nation’s service, the crux of the intent despite the evident occasions of destroyed tapes, lost records, false (mistaken) log entries, vanished emails, etc.

I guess the GOP knows they won’t get into power without any ideas or solutions, so they’ll try to create a controversy instead. Ridiculous.

As a Obama voter I say good. The truth needs to come out. I will not take up for her or Dodd or any other liar in DC just because they are a member of my party. Who is our party to bash the Bush administration or anyone else if we do not require our own party representatives to be held to the same standards. She is polarizing by itself and bad news for this country and just like Dodd and many others a liar. Obama should also want the truth.

Some dumb liberals,please do not play the politic or party line ? Pelosi is unfit to serve our great country,she is lied, selfish and doesn’t understand our country problems…

Now I don’t know why these “IDIOTS” are showboating on any channel they can get on……… they do not have the votes, and they can’t force anything. This is just like they requested the Release of the Classified documents relating to the “war criminals” that they Tortured. Knowing full well, President Obama can not and will not for the sake of our Soldiers.

With all the junk the Bush Administration pulled and the Republicans didnt launch a single investigation and they want to start one over THIS?

oh and by the way…if you believe the CIA “mislead” Nancy P. and she isn’t smart enough to quess the truth…I have some magical beans to sell you.

Type in “witches” in Google and select I’m feeling lucky and Nancy Pelosi sites come up! LOL

To “Thinking” Still-Inside-the-Box:
You mean like the plans to spend more taxpayer money with “stumbulus” spending – oh yeah, that’s an original, cutting edge, breakthrough thought from the democrats. What’s hopeless is that Democrats win round house elections – and they’re still unhappy. Not only are democrats hopeless they are never ending whiners and cowardly blamers – never doers.
Pelosi is the biggest blamer of all. Her wretched finger pointing with that scrawled rat claw of hers blaming everybody but herself for our country’s messes is simply tiresome.
She’s gotta go. She calls herself a ‘fighter’ but all she does is blindly swing wild at anybody and anything who dares point out a single flaw of hers.
Her being Catholic I assume she also expects to be canonized the patron saint of torturers – you know with all that secret knowledge of skim boarding – I mean body boarding – I water surfing boarding – dah! you know what I’m trying to say!

Now that the GOP wants to force an investigation on when Pelosi knew about torture authorized by the Bush administration, perhaps the Democrats should return the favor by starting an investigation on when the Bush administration authorized torture and who authorized it, and why the GOP is so keen on defending a practice that obviously did not work. According to news report, waterboarding was performed on the same two persons 266 times. How effective is a technique that the CIA had to perform on the same two persons over 200 times?

As a 70 year old American Citizen Democrat and Veteran, from a family who came to America in 1939, Nancy Pelosi, That Queer loving Mayer of San Francisco, and the rest of our whole Government are a disgrace to not only our Country, But the American Flag. I would never serve this Government as it has been the past thirty years. It is such a disgrace that I have stored my beautiful Stars and Stripes many of my family ancesters served and died. Because of the way they have taken our country. Every Citizen no matter thier Party should start sending registered letters in demmand that they started serving the people. To hell with Votes that mean nothing. Send Registered mail and they are supposed to personally sign for it and respond. Diane Fienstien has turned out just like Nancy a lier and a Hypercrit to the people who voted for them.

The Repubs should be extremely thankful that the Dems leadership didn’t call their bluff and actually bring up a viote on a full investigation on what the CIA briefed and what was Cherry picked or manipulated by the Bush Administration and liar in chief, Cheney. Then Chairperson Pelosi would have been the last thing anyone was worried about. Has anyone accused her of actually torturing anyone physically or lying to the American people about weapons of mass destruction or sending our brave young men and women to die for a political fiasco.

I know none of these congressman have work boots so if they wish to borrow mine I’ll gladly overnight them so they can kick Ms. Pelosi out. She has disgraced the speakership!

The (G)od’s (O)wn (P)eople are a joke!

Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee who is running for governor in Michigan, in November said of the CIA: “We cannot have a community that operates outside the law and covers up what it does and lies to Congress.”
Hoekstra was reacting to the 2001 downing of a plane carrying Michigan missionaries in Peru. An investigation by the Office of the Inspector General found that the CIA violated the law and then lied to Congress about it.
So there is precedent for the CIA being caught in a lie…….

Bryne, you do realize that John Kerry cannot be Speaker of the House because he is in the SENATE, right?

I can’t tolerate Pelosi, but this makes the GOP look so desperate it’s just plain sad. Talk about nailing your own coffin shut…………….

What was good for the Newt is good for the
Witch !!!

Posted by: hkdakota | May 22, 2009 9:45:36 AM
You wonder where the democrates are on this debate……..well let me tell you….they are all hiding under a rock waiting for this to go away. They all know Pelosi is guilty and she will take a few other demo nuts with her. No lies were spoken by either republican you mentioned. Only democrats say things without the facts. Republicans can prove everything they accuse the dems of doing. You can only fool yourself for so long before you have to admit the facts and truth. Democrats are on their way out……

Yes, “A bipartisan investigation is needed to get to the facts.” Get rid of Pelosi after this. Nancy is much better to take of her grandchildren at home than to control Congressmen with cockamamie behavior and liar.

Of course the dems. will gather round her and pretend to back her, even that clown Specter or whatever his name is. Until their constituents let them know they want the truth. That is if they can handle the truth. Security and National defense are areas most of us lay people are not too familiar with. Combat as in the military also is not something the average American is experienced in. I do believe that our combatants are the worlds finest and while attrocitities have occurred they still do their jobs with honor. Something that the taliban or al queada would never do. Torture is not in their vocabulary. They just flat out kill you. But Americans don’t want to know that. Our enemies do not fight using our rules, they have no rules.As for our reps. sitting at breifings and not being told the truth well lets find out the truth. And if the dems. have all the answers well lets hear them without having to listen to the whinning about what they inherited. They were at the breifings, they wrote the bills, they should know!! if not they need to go!!!.Starting with that lying, self-serving, true-blue politician, socialist,Pelosi. If she has got to go she’s got to go.And if the dems. want to get rid of the C.I.A. well let’s do it. And if we hang agents or soldiers for doing a job they may have been ordered to do lets do it. Lets get them and the leaders and the reps. that sat in on the breifings( whether they remeber what was said or not, if they were mis-led they are inept and unreliable and have no business working for us). Then we can rest comfortably at night knowing that we may not have security, but at least terrorist are not being mistreated, and they have their rights we won’t but they will the left will make sure of that.

So now the Gop wants Pelosi to resign? They want Colin Powell to leave the party. They want the president not to close Gitgo. They want a lot, I feel. They have a lot of wants and no support for our country. Intelligence people say over and over “waterboarding: not give reliable information. They lie to stop the pain. Do they even care that Cheney broke the law? Waterboarding is against the law…how can they condone that? They and Cheney have been disrespectful to our president. He would not have allowed anyone to debate him and I wish we had. Maybe we would not have gone to Iraq. Cheney has much to answer for and trying to distract us is not working. It seems the republican party is being very selective on who can join and what we can believe in especially religious wise. They are the two reasons I left the republican party after 25 years. Too many narow minded people who only criticize and have no new ideas.

They are all lairs.
The Republicans know that Pelosi will never be investigated. Which is why they are making all the noise. They are just posturing.
They are all implicated and should all be fired.

Cheney and Rove lied to Scott Mclellan when they denied involvement in leaking Valerie Plame’s name – all politicians lie. (They admitted involvement to Justice dept investigators) Get over it!! Nothing happened to Chaney and Rove, what makes you think different here?

Dont you libs consider max security prison on 24 hour lockdown to be torture?

Nancy Pelosi would never lie! Just ask Chris Dodd – he’ll swear to it.

What garbage. I personally don’t want to witness another Character assassination. The GOP needs to adapt and start helping get America back on her feet.