By Caitlin Taylor

May 18, 2009 9:14am

Netanyahu, In Political Bind, Comes Bearing Gift

Even if Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu were inclined to support a two-state solution to his country’s conflict with the Palestinians — a matter  President Obama will push today, with likely Netanyahu pushback — his hands may be tied.

The Jerusalem Post reports today that a wide majority of parliament members in Netanyahu’s Likud party oppose such a move.

At least seven Likud ministers are on record against a Palestinian state, the newspaper reports, including Vice Prime Minister and Minister of Strategic Affairs Moshe Ya’alon, Education Minister Gideon Sa’ar, Minister without Portfolio Bennie Begin, Minister of Information and Diaspora Yuli Edelstein, Minister of Environmental Protection Gilad Erdan, Minister of Transportation Yisrael Katz and Minister of Communications Moshe Kahlon.

Members of the Israeli parliament, or K’nesset, "might be afraid now to say that Bibi doesn’t have a majority for two states in the faction or other Likud bodies, but later on they will make their voice heard," said Likud K’nesset member Danny Danon. "In any public campaign against a Palestinian state, Begin and Ya’alon would be at the top."

Netanyahu is bearing more than this news, however. Ha’aretz reports that Netanyahu is bringing a gift for President Obama: a copy of "Pleasure Excursion to the Holy Land," from Mark Twain’s book "The Innocents Abroad."

The book describes Twain’s 1867 trip to what was then called Palestine, which you can read HERE.

"The population of Jerusalem is compose of Moslems, Jews, Greeks, Latins, Armenians, Syrians, Copts, Abyssinians, Greek Catholics, and a handful of Protestants…" Twain wrote. "It seems to me that all the races and colors and tongues of the earth must be represented among the fourteen thousand souls that dwell in Jerusalem. Rags, wretchedness, poverty and dirt, those signs and symbols that indicate the presence of Moslem rule more surely than the crescent-flag itself, abound. Lepers, cripples, the blind, and the idiotic, assail you on every hand, and they know but one word of but one language apparently — the eternal ‘bucksheesh.’ To see the numbers of maimed, malformed and diseased humanity that throng the holy places and obstruct the gates, one might suppose that the ancient days had come again, and that the angel of the was expected to descend at any moment to stir the waters of Bethesda. Jerusalem is mournful, and dreary, and lifeless. I would not desire to live here."

- jpt

User Comments

I hope this book is written in English.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 18, 2009, 9:18 am 9:18 am

Nice. Maybe Obama could sacrifice some basketball time to read up on some history.

Posted by: jordan | May 18, 2009, 9:51 am 9:51 am

Our message is simple to Mr. Netanyahu, this president can’t be trusted, is very nieve and truly beleives he can charm anyone who meets him. 60% of the American people will be behind you when you reject the idea of a 2 state solution. It is obvious that the Muslims will never be satisfied until every Jewish person is gone and they will not be happy until they control Jerusalem. In the end Mr. Netanyahu, don’t agree to anything with this President as he cannot keep his word and has his own self serving agenda. Thye only person this President cares about is himself. He has even sold his own country out over and over so just think what he wants to do to yours.

Posted by: Bob | May 18, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am

I’m not aware that Twain was any kind of a world historian. Did the wretchedness, rags, poverty and dirt actually pertain to Moslem rule? Whatever the case, he clearly didn’t like Jerusalem, which could have been attributed to his atheist sensibilities.

Posted by: kim | May 18, 2009, 10:04 am 10:04 am

What language do you think Mark Twain wrote in? LOL

Posted by: EdDoc80 | May 18, 2009, 10:11 am 10:11 am

best thing you could do is ask for money, he hands out our money to anyone who asks

Posted by: crag | May 18, 2009, 10:31 am 10:31 am

“Thye only person this President cares about is himself.”
Not true at all, but it’s clear that all you care about is YOUR agenda, damn reality.

Posted by: Silky | May 18, 2009, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Bob:” 60% of the American people will be behind you when you reject the idea of a 2 state solution.”
Citation please. The last poll that actually asked this question had a majority of Americans in favor of a two-state solution.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Every government including Hamas support a two state solution but Bibi does not because he wants to steal more Palestinian lands, bomb them, cut of necessities like food, water, medicine and electricity from them. Now who doesnt want peace here. Its Bibi for sure. He is even planning to go to war with Iran.
Bibi could even be worse than Ariel Sharon.

Posted by: Brian | May 18, 2009, 10:55 am 10:55 am

I do not want to be paying more for gas when Israeli war mongers attack Iran. We are already in a world recession and this would be disasterous.

Posted by: Brian | May 18, 2009, 10:57 am 10:57 am

Fact is Israel is blatantly stealing more Palestinian lands and do not want to stop. Bibi is opposed to the two state solution because he doesn`t want to return those lands and allow the 5 million Paletinians who have been expelled from their homeland.

Posted by: Brian | May 18, 2009, 11:01 am 11:01 am

Even Hamas and the Palestinians are in support of the two state solution. Why is Israel against it?

Posted by: Norm | May 18, 2009, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Norm:”Even Hamas and the Palestinians are in support of the two state solution. ”
This is not quite true. Hamas is not in support of the two state solution. Their clearly stated and still fully supported solution is the eradication of Israel. They have recently made some contradictory comments that suggest they may accept a two state solution if it is supported by a majority vote of Palestinians, but it is a stretch to call that ‘support’ and quite valid questions remain about the sincerity of their statements.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 11:09 am 11:09 am

When Hamas refuses to recognise Israel the whole world thinks its wrong but when Netanyahu`s Likud refuses to recognise a Palestinian state nobody think its wrong.
Double standards!

Posted by: Billy | May 18, 2009, 11:13 am 11:13 am

why is the US in the middle of this and always in a position of mediator? our very involvement is not helping the situation. for over 30 years the US has tried the “peace” processes to no avail (perhaps because of our unconditional support of Israel). why not leave the two parties alone? the more we extricate ourselves from the middle east the more secure we, the US, will be.

Posted by: Paul Wall | May 18, 2009, 11:14 am 11:14 am

Jhw,
why is Israel stealing Palestinian lands, cutting the supply of food, water, electricity and medicine to Gaza and killing them.
This is what Hamas is against.
Israel getting eiped out by AK 47s and homemade rockets? Get serious.

Posted by: Billy | May 18, 2009, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Netanyaho = Cheney.

Posted by: Billy | May 18, 2009, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Israel is losing the PR war now. If they dont support the two state solution way to peace they would look even worse than they look now.

Posted by: Brian | May 18, 2009, 11:23 am 11:23 am

Paul Wall:”why not leave the two parties alone?”
There is little doubt that withdrawal of US support (in particular the advance military armaments) would result in the annihilation of Israel and a likely nuclear exchange in the Middle East. Putting aside the moral implication of such a multiple genocide event, with the world’s reliance on oil, this would be Bad.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Billy:”why is Israel stealing Palestinian lands, cutting the supply of food, water, electricity and medicine to Gaza and killing them.”
Israel has a poorly constituted government that is unable or unwilling to restrain it’s most radical elements.
“This is what Hamas is against.”
Then perhaps they should state that. Hamas stated goal is not to merely stop Israeli settler activity, it is the complete eradication of Israel and return of every acre currently occupied by Israel to Palestinians. Their actions suggest this is indeed their goal. You are wishfully creating their platform out of thin air – their justifications are not equal to their platform.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 11:30 am 11:30 am

We’re due to be reminded once again why BO’s judgement is unparalleled, especially in his choice of associates. JB’s latest dinner chit chat should fill the bill.

Posted by: jcarob | May 18, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am

Guys forget it. Thered be no peace in the middle east. People keep underesyimating AIPAC. They have all of congress in their pocket.

Posted by: Brian | May 18, 2009, 11:31 am 11:31 am

jhw539, i think that Israel is quite capable of defending themselves. i seriously doubt a nuclear annihilation is realistic. you are concerned about the mere possibility “multiple genocide event” and its “moral implications” why there is a genocide raging in Darfur. if we are to be concerned about genocide let’s do something about it. i assure you in Sudan genocide is not a “possibility” but a reality and the moral implications of inaction is far from abstract. as for the issue of gas prices it is rather arrogant, selfish and narcissistic for that to be a concern of ours. should america do what is morally wrong just for cheap gas prices? apparently yes. but at what larger price(s)?

Posted by: Paul Wall | May 18, 2009, 11:36 am 11:36 am

Jhw,
you expect me to smile at you when you are stealing my lands? Why is Israel building expensive houses on them for their settlers? Now Israel is against the two state solution.
Get this straight, I do not want gas prices going up when Israel attcks Iran based on false intelligence like Iraq. And do not think Iran is a push over like Iraq because they have long range missiles that can reach Tel Aviv.

Posted by: Brian | May 18, 2009, 11:38 am 11:38 am

Brain:”you expect me to smile at you when you are stealing my lands?”
Only if you want to win. If the Palestinians had a man like Gandhi and the will, they would have been living in a free nation a generation ago. But at least they are keeping their honor I guess.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 11:51 am 11:51 am

The idea of a Palestinian State NOW when such a state would be led by the terrorist group HAMAS is stupid.
If HAMAS is defeated and eliminated then that is the time one can consider creating a Palestinian State but to do so NOW only promotes and expands the power of HAMAS.
And the idea HAMAS(an organization committed to Islamic supremacism and the elimination of Israel) can coexist peacefully with Israel is naive and stupid as well.
But giving HAMAS such power appears to be the “genius” Obama’s intent and idea(doubtless an idea learned from Rashid Khalidi, Bill Ayers, the Reverend Wright, and other radicals who influenced Obama greatly). In fact, Obama is already giving HAMAS a down payment on expanding their power in the form of approximately $900 million Obama is giving HAMAS in US aid.
All in all stupid, naive and shortsighted policies.

Posted by: ConstantXI | May 18, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Paul Wall:”i think that Israel is quite capable of defending themselves. i seriously doubt a nuclear annihilation is realistic.”
It’s a nice little fantasy world you live in. Israel could not stand against the numbers they face down there without the advanced arms and billions of dollars of support the US offers. And I do not know why you doubt that they would use nuclear weapons as a last ditch effort for survival.
“you are concerned about the mere possibility “multiple genocide event” and its “moral implications” why there is a genocide raging in Darfur.”
And I’m not concerned about Darfur? I didn’t realize that I had to list all my grievances to avoid dismissal of valid arguments.
“as for the issue of gas prices it is rather arrogant, selfish and narcissistic for that to be a concern of ours.”
Don’t be a fool. ‘Gas prices’ mean the difference between life and death for millions, not just the few extra bucks it takes to drive down to a US bowling alley. Obviously, a tripling or quadrupling of oil prices is easily absorbed. But a few nukes in the Middle East would mean the worst case Peak Oil scenario in 24 hours. There is no question that the loss of the Middle East energy supply would result in mass starvation within 6 months.
“should america do what is morally wrong just for cheap gas prices?”
Morally wrong? ‘With us or against us’ moral absolutism in complex matters like this is as foolish against Israel as when Bush pointed it against the Palestinians.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am

EdDoc80..
I think they use Twain novels for anti-american education in communist asia.
I’ll bet you are right.. it’s in English.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 18, 2009, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Brian:”And do not think Iran is a push over like Iraq because…”
I do not think Iran is a pushover, however it should be noted that Iran was unable to ‘push over’ Iraq throughout the 8 year Iran-Iraq war.
I think our current experience should drive home that, in reality, Iraq is not really a pushover either.

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm

ConstantXI:”All in all stupid, naive and shortsighted policies.”
Really? So how have the smart, long sighted policies of the last 40 years worked for us then (and Israel for that matter)? Well enough to condemn trying something new?

Posted by: jhw539 | May 18, 2009, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Religion and politics yes it is practiced in the middle east by all the groups of people. It is only here in the US that the overwhelming population is naive enough to think that we have it right by refusing to believe that God and or religion have no room in running a society.Before we are democrats or republicans we are a people set apart through-out history. That has not been because of a political ideology but because of a people who understood that faith and believing that through hope and hard work dreams could come true.When we start trusting men to guide us in our lives, we will become like those poor mislead suicide bombers that follow a path that could care less about you or anyone else, they are off to a land of pleasure and sex. A mighty strong incentive to one who is mislead on the truths known and ignored by many a man.

Posted by: tavo | May 18, 2009, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

POTUS to Netty:
Did you hear we had a seder.. right here in the white house?
Netty to POTUS:
Yeah, I heard.. did you hear we were going to bomb your internet buddies in Iran?
POTUS to Netty:
It’s a little early on Monday morning to become pugilistic.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 18, 2009, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

tavo – “When we start trusting men to guide us in our lives, we will become like those poor mislead suicide bombers that follow a path that could care less about you or anyone else, they are off to a land of pleasure and sex.”
the suicice bombars are following an extreme radical religous agenda making your complete statement backwards.

Posted by: uh-uh | May 18, 2009, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Netanyahu gave Obama a pretty thoughtful gift. What did Obama give Netanyahu?

Posted by: Following along | May 18, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

jhw539—you brought up the issue of morality, not i, sir/ma’am. that our lives will have to change because of higher gas taxes is obvious and i hardly need that pointed out. it is inevitable and perhaps it is time for our nation to take alternative fuels seriously.
i only mentioned Darfur because you mentioned a concern for “posible” genocides and i was merely pointing out that there is one in full progress and no interest in ending it at all.
Israel is a nuclear power. it has a strong military. if we are paying for all of it (or even most of it) then we are hardly an impartial negotiator in the middle east debacle but simply israeli partisans. since we are financing Israeli’s armed forces perhaps we should expect some conditions like sincere, serious peace negotiations.
choosing one party over another in the middle east has serious consequences for the US as we have already seen and perhaps shall see again.

Posted by: Paul Wall | May 18, 2009, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

“60% of the American people will be behind you when you reject the idea of a 2 state solution.”
60% of Americans could not find Israel on a map.

Posted by: tjp612 | May 18, 2009, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

Iran and Israel can agree on only one thing:
Both favor a one-state ‘solution’.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 18, 2009, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

jhw539—”nice little fantasy world you live in”, “Don’t be a fool”…does this invective really advance you arguement? that you disagree with me is fine but there is no reason we cannot be civil. i just don’t see the nuclear doomsday scenario or the massive US starvation you describe as terribly realistic. you may very well be correct, but i’m hardly an idiot for not agreeing with you. and i do not think you are an idiot because of your views or that you live in a “fantasy world”.

Posted by: Paul Wall | May 18, 2009, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

what did Obama give Netanyahu? Bibi gave Barak a book. Did Barak give Bibi an iPod featuring his sermons? Or maybe some DVDs that are for the wrong region? Or a signed copy of the Koran? Why doesn’t the article tell us what Barak gave Bibi?

Posted by: Ed | May 18, 2009, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

60% of Americans could not find Israel on a map.
Posted by: tjp612
you are correct Sir,
it’s worse than that, my brother after teaching for over 30 years in Tenn. told me that ‘students’ had trouble naming the 50 United States. Some had difficulty finding their own state of Tenn on a map….
There is a side show/circus that bears little resemblance to an open minded discussion on events in America…….. people are much more concerned with being ‘on the right side’ than having their own opinion and a pronounced fear of those who think or act differently….

Posted by: Dewde | May 18, 2009, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Dewde,
“it’s worse than that”
I was being very, very generous in my assessment…and it’s not getting any better…afterall, our own President has claimed he has visited “57 states” and apparently thinks “Austrian” is a language. While he chastises Americans for not being not being able to say anything other than “merci beaucoup” when visiting France, he refers to “Cinco de Mayo” as “Cinco de Cuatro” (“five of four”).
But, “he won” so he is free to chastise/criticize us at home and apologize for us during speeches abroad.

Posted by: tjp612 | May 18, 2009, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

I wonder if he asked Bibi how to say “Thank you” in Israeli…

Posted by: tjp612 | May 18, 2009, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

tjp612:
I’m not that worried over momentary word lapses by Obama or anyone else, as long a their track record seems to be one of some kind of competence.
Not understanding the difference between Shia & Sunni would seem like a more egregious error, as was sometimes demonstrated by previous government officials.
I disagree with your comment that Obama apologizes for the US…..while doing an amazing amount of great things for a long time, there is also a darker more sordid side to US policy, no harm in admitting we are not gods and we make mistakes.

Posted by: Dewde | May 18, 2009, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

I just went on google maps.. I know it’s in the middle east, somewhere within short range missle range of Iran.. ok, I give up.

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 18, 2009, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

on faux pas, seem I remember Bush saying something about the ‘Grecians’
old ‘W’ has a funny long list of ‘hits’:
“I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn’t here.” —at the President’s Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002
“I glance at the headlines just to kind of get a flavor for what’s moving. I rarely read the stories, and get briefed by people who are probably read the news themselves.” —Washington, D.C., Sept. 21, 2003
“The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself.” —Grand Rapids, Mich., Jan. 29, 2003
“I couldn’t imagine somebody like Osama bin Laden understanding the joy of Hanukkah.” —at a White House menorah lighting ceremony, Washington, D.C., Dec. 10, 2001
“I’m also not very analytical. You know I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things.” —aboard Air Force One, June 4, 2003
“After all, a week ago, there were—Yasser Arafat was boarded up in his building in Ramallah, a building full of, evidently, German peace protestors and all kinds of people. They’re now out. He’s now free to show leadership, to lead the world.”—Washington, D.C., May 2, 2002 (Thanks to M. Bateman.)

Posted by: Dewde | May 18, 2009, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

“I’m not that worried over momentary word lapses by Obama or anyone else, as long a their track record seems to be one of some kind of competence.”
…and thus my concern…

Posted by: tjp612 | May 18, 2009, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

Give “The O” some time….he’ll give Bush a run for his money….

Posted by: tjp612 | May 18, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

‘he’ll give Bush a run for his money’…. tjp612
Obama will have to really get in gear to match
“W’s” formidable faux pas machine, and history of entertaining malapropisms

Posted by: Dewde | May 18, 2009, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Book exchanges are nice, but the President declared at AIPAC “we will never allow Iran to have nuclear weapons?”
And just how is the President going to guarantee that claim, as Iran begins to cross the red lines established by the Israeli govt, amassing enough enriched uranium to make a bomb, and more to come?

Posted by: J House | May 18, 2009, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

“Obama will have to really get in gear to match “W’s” formidable faux pas machine”
Even with his (extensive) use of the telemprompter, I still like Obama’s chances. Remember, during extemporaneous speaking Obama has to filter much of what he says between what he really believes and what he should say, which inevitably leads to gaffes or unintended messages (e.g., “when you spread the wealth around it’s good for everybody” moment with Joe the Plumber).

Posted by: tjp612 | May 18, 2009, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

What language do you think Mark Twain wrote in? LOL
*****************************************************
EdDoc80, What language can you read in? In some historical accounts, the Ottomans (Turkish/Muslim occupiers) are credited with maintaining Jerusalem well. It’s an incendiary excerpt from Twain, so quite naturally, it raises questions.

Posted by: kim | May 18, 2009, 4:50 pm 4:50 pm

I couldn’t even find Israel on the 2003 roadmap..

Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 18, 2009, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm

60% of Americans could not find Israel on a map.
Posted by: tjp612 | May 18, 2009 12:42:16 PM
I think that the essence of the problem is the fact that 100% of Israelis cannot find Palestine on a map.

Posted by: Flash Override | May 18, 2009, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

I wonder if ‘Bibi’ understands that the book is a work of satire, a send-up of American Holy Land travel books that was meant to shed more light upon American attitudes than anything else.
“..an irreverent send-up of smug sanctimoniousness…”
Twain is not giving a real picture of Palestine here, he is making fun of American tourists.

Posted by: Flash Override | May 18, 2009, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

I guess it is still appropriate to use Twain’s work to make fun of the American press of today.

Posted by: Flash Override | May 18, 2009, 7:43 pm 7:43 pm

A funny excerpt from another Twain work, “Tom Sawyer Abroad”, discussing Jerusalem:
“What do we want of it?”
“Why, can’t you understand? It’s in the hands of paynim, and it’s our duty to take it away from them.”
“How did we come to let them git hold of it?”
“We didn’t come to let them git hold of it. They always had it.”
“Why, Tom, then it must belong to them, don’t it?”
“Why, of course it does. Who said it didn’t?”
I studied over it, but couldn’t seem to git at the right of it, no way. I says:
“It’s too many for me, Tom Sawyer. If I had a farm and it was mine, and another person wanted it, would it be right for him to – ”

Posted by: Flash Override | May 18, 2009, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm

Dewde- Darker side to US policy…I think of Obama, oil, and the energy grid.

Posted by: MarkLeavenworth | May 18, 2009, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

Now I’m really upset. I’ve got caught up myself in Obamamania…

Posted by: MarkLeavenworth | May 18, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm

How does Ha’aretz know this was the excerpt Netanyahu wanted Obama to see?
I think it was this one:
“A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country”

Posted by: sdev | May 19, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

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