NSA James Jones: Obama’s Decisions Make U.S. More Secure
ABC News’ Luis Martinez reports: The debate on whether America’s been made less safe by the Obama administration’s decision to close Guantanamo and end the use enhanced interrogation techniques went another round tonight. This time it was National Security Advisor James Jones who countered former Vice President Cheney’s arguments that ending the Bush administration’s anti-terror policies have made America less safe.
In remarks to the Atlantic Council, Jones said America is not only safe under the Obama administration, but will become increasingly secure under his leadership. Jones’ remarks were his first public remarks since the former general became National Security Advisor.
Jones said, "In my view, I firmly believe that the United States is not only safe but it will be more secure and the American people are increasingly safer because of the president’s leadership that he has displayed consistently over the last four months, both at home and abroad." "He has said clearly and unequivocally that we are at war with terrorism and terrorism can take many facets."
He explained the US was safer because of the decision to close the detention facility, increased defense spending, the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the responsible pullout of troops from Iraq.
Speaking of the "false choice" between security and ideals, Jones said Guantanamo had created more terrorists than it had housed. He never mentioned Cheney by name other than addresing him as the Vice-President during the Q&A that followed. Speaking of Cheney’s arguments he said, "no administration is going to suggest that their performance had made the country less safe." He added "I think that the former vice president knows full well that perfection is an impossible standard," because sometimes the only thing the US can do is "keep threats at bay and as far away from our shores as possible."
Jones also touched on current events such as the North Korean nuclear test which he called a "pretty serious moment." But he’s been impressed by the responses of Russia, China, and India to the test which indicate an international consensus is building that "North Korea and Iran should not be permitted to have such weapons." He said the nuclear test and the recent missile test do not pose an imminent threat because North Korea has a long way to go before it can weaponize that technology. However, he’s concerned that proliferation of that technology does pose an imminent threat. To that end how to deal with North Korea will be a main topic of discussion at President Obama’s upcoming summit with Russian President Medvedev.
He’s encouraged by the Pakistani Army’s offensives to take on their insurgents and thinks it should be about a year to gauge how the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan is doing. Regarding changes he’s made to the NSC, Jones said he wanted to make it more agile and proactive by looking at situations that might develop six to eight months out. He said the President doesn’t get involved in every decision as issues are thoroughly debated as they work their way up through working groups and sometimes to the principals. But when he does preside at meetings, Jones described an actively engaged President. "Nobody gets out unchallenged,” and he joked "there’s no sleeping" as the President likes to hear dialogue and opposing views. "Nobody walks away from the table thinking that they have not been heard,” he said. Jones indicated media predictions that Obama’s "team of rivals" wouldn’t work together haven’t panned out as his greatest satisfaction has been seeing the "level of collegiality" that’s developed among them. But Jones said the same can’t be said for their underlings as apparently "the team of rivals exists at other levels."
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Posted by: Larry Clifton | May 27, 2009, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm
Prove it! I guess Gen. Jones missed the North Korea nuclear test and missiles flying around.
Perfection is the only standard that did keep us safe for over 7 years so for Mr. Jones to claim perfection is not the standard then maybe he would like to withhold judgement of Obama till he reaches the 7 year mark.
Posted by: t. hill | May 27, 2009, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
To quote, “perfection is an impossible standard”. Who thinks for a moment that Israel has not endeavored to do everything possible to avert terrorist attacks on her soil. Yet they are struck over and over again. The GOP touts it’s success but, in fact, they have just been lucky. Hopefully, the Democrats will also be lucky, but some time, somewhere, we will be hit again. That is reality in today’s world and whoever stands before you and tells you otherwise is telling a fable. With intelligence and care we can, perhaps, minimize our exposure, but we will be hit again. Our government’s arrogance demonstrated the previous 8 years have contributed in no way to making us safer from day to day.
Posted by: Robert Haynam | May 27, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
t.hill – I love how you frame perfection and keeping us safe after the events of 9/11. What about on 9/11?
Posted by: Spencer | May 27, 2009, 11:10 pm 11:10 pm
Wow, thats news. Obama’s national security advisor saying his boss made the country more safe. Shocking headliner. Wonder how long it took to pry that out of him.
Posted by: KR | May 27, 2009, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
The *Fox Nation* is the single largest threat to American society.
It is a group that openly agrees to allowing the US Government to suppress liberties in the guise of security. They distain multi-cultralism and frame it as “un American” despite the fact that the countries heritage is based on multiple cultures and immigrants. Further more the frame all dissenting views as “un-American” which ironically itself is an un-american view.
-CF
Posted by: ChronoFish | May 27, 2009, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
“I love how you frame perfection and keeping us safe after the events of 9/11. What about on 9/11?”
You know whats funny about American politics, had Bush come out on day one and said “terrorism is my top priority” and resourced that effort to what it is today, he most likely would have been ridiculed by the left for having screwed up priorities. The big news item the summer he was elected was the dot.com bubble bursting the year prior, and tech stocks. No one would have given a crap. It took something as catastrophic as 9/11 to wake America up. So go ahead, sit on your nice hindsight chair of noble thought and take pot shots at the President who was in office a whole 9 months and discount the previous 18 years of terrorism against the U.S. but remember this, prior to 9/11 you wouldnt have given 2 cents about terror and even if he had prevented 9/11, it would have been a fly by news story, forgotten 3 days later.
So please, spare us all the holy-er than though security opinions.
Posted by: KR | May 27, 2009, 11:45 pm 11:45 pm
“It is a group that openly agrees to allowing the US Government to suppress liberties in the guise of security.”
Really? which?
“They distain multi-cultralism and frame it as “un American” despite the fact that the countries heritage is based on multiple cultures and immigrants.”
Care to cite an example?
“Further more the frame all dissenting views as “un-American” which ironically itself is an un-american view.”
Now I love this one, you say it as “un-American”ism cannot exist if your and American with a dissenting view of what America does. When Clinton got involved in Bosnia, many in the American military was against it, but we held our lip and did what we were asked to do because we believed it to be un-American to speak out against it. Our nations leaders made a decision and we were going to follow it through… and still are today. When our nation makes a committment, you don’t have to agree, but you damn sure better cheer for victory because our nation is one nation, not two. By smearing our national leaders, either by politicians or by media, you smear our nation, and thus some would call that un-American. Of course, those recieving those comments will say things exactly like you said, no its WE who are un-American. Reminds me of a joke David Letterman had on his top 10 comebacks. #1 was “I’m not a jerk! Hey YOUR the jerk!” Good one.
Posted by: KR | May 27, 2009, 11:53 pm 11:53 pm
Isn’t Jones the guy who was bragging about how President Obama had saved the NATO vote when Turkish Prime minister didn’t want to vote for the Danish president?
I would love someone to ask how they measure the number of terrorists Guantanamo has created, and if it is greater than the number of terrorists Bahgram created. Or the number of terrorists having a base in Saudi Arabia created.
Posted by: MayBee | May 27, 2009, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm
Now toss this military man under the bus,he’s just another Colin Powell…
ALMOST ALL THE LEADING MILITARY MEN ARE AGREEING WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HIS MILITARY DECISIONS.
IF YOU DON’T YOU MUST BE AGAINST THE MILITARY.
Posted by: dA | May 28, 2009, 12:13 am 12:13 am
Come on ABC..that’s National Security Advisor to Obama, you know like Sandy Berger National Security Advisor to Bill Clinton. I am just happy to see ya Sandy replied to a guard as he made his escape from a government archive with classified docs stuffed down his pants. He, James Jones, is an employee of Obama NOT the “NSA.” What would you expect him to say…
Posted by: Parallax View | May 28, 2009, 12:26 am 12:26 am
KR – When it comes those holier than thou accusations are you looking in the mirror?
Yes, Bush kept us safe since 9/11 on the home-front; however he did receive briefings in Crawford on August 6th prior to 9/11 from CIA who flew there out of grave concern of an impending attack.
As to pot shots for a President in office a “whole nine months” not being very long – that’s downright hypocritical as much as it is laughable coming from you since you all started with the potshots on Obama hot and heavy right out of the gate.
Goose meet Gander.
Posted by: Spencer | May 28, 2009, 12:37 am 12:37 am
Wow, thats news. Obama’s national security advisor saying his boss made the country more safe. Shocking headliner. Wonder how long it took to pry that out of him.
Posted by: KR | May 27, 2009 11:41:17 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are you going to magically explain away Admiral Mike Mullen, General David Petraeus and Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates who are also in agreement with James Jones?
Posted by: Spencer | May 28, 2009, 12:44 am 12:44 am
Yeah…Spence…THEY ALL WORK FOR HIM..HE GOES DOWN THEY ALL GO DOWN..YOU KNOW THE OLD SAYING “DON’T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.”
Posted by: Parallax View | May 28, 2009, 12:52 am 12:52 am
PV – Whatever makes you feel better.
Posted by: Spencer | May 28, 2009, 12:53 am 12:53 am
Spencer..Reality usually does…
Posted by: Parallax View | May 28, 2009, 1:05 am 1:05 am
“You know whats funny about American politics, had Bush come out on day one and said “terrorism is my top priority” and resourced that effort to what it is today, he most likely would have been ridiculed by the left for having screwed up priorities.”
This is called a ‘straw man’ argument; you ignore the stated argument “9/11 happened on the Bush/Cheney watch so there security wasn’t so perfect” and you substitute a bogus argument and attribute it to your opponent.
The fact of the matter is 9/11 did happen on Bush and Cheney’s watch and they did have advance warning of it in security memos. Are you really trying to say they didn’t take security seriously because ‘the left’ wouldn’t have like it?
Get serious.
Posted by: danita | May 28, 2009, 1:09 am 1:09 am
Spencer ,you’re wasting your time.
The Republicans ( or “Moderates” as they like to call themselves now that Bush & Co. totally ruined/stunk up the Republican moniker) are not interested in anything factual just whatever they can dream up/make up /lie about that is anti-Obama in any way shape or form. Just like a bunch of h/s kids…juvenile and sophomoric in the worst kind of ignorant hateful way.
I love you Mr Obama ,stick it to the ignorant lying Repubicans/”Moderates” as much as you can!!!
Posted by: Danforth | May 28, 2009, 1:14 am 1:14 am
It took something as catastrophic as 9/11 to wake America up. So go ahead, sit on your nice hindsight chair of noble thought and take pot shots at the President who was in office a whole 9 months and discount the previous 18 years of terrorism against the U.S
KR
I missed your explanation of what exactly did 9/11 have to do with the invasion of Iraq
Posted by: Oh Yeah | May 28, 2009, 1:23 am 1:23 am
Danforth…How progressive of you..I see the new liberal of today is the old foggey of yesterday…Keep up the good work..Views like yours make it Christmas every day for opposing political parties..
Posted by: Parallax View | May 28, 2009, 1:25 am 1:25 am
Oh, hello, Mr. Jones? Just thought you might like to know, North Korea is testing nuclear weapons and missiles like mad while you’re telling us how much safer Mr. Obama’s speeches have made us all. And please be advised the use of the terms “war on terror” and “terrorism” are verboten. Please see Ms. Napolitano for further advice on terminology. As for Guantanamo creating more terrorists, I’m sure transferring these creators of manmade disasters to federal prisons in several of our “57″ states would not foster any feelings of ill will toward the U.S. and banish any thoughts of terror….oops, there’s that word again.
Thank you, Mr. Cheney. I understood what you said, and I appreciate what you did to keep us safe for seven years.
Posted by: whatadisaster | May 28, 2009, 1:27 am 1:27 am
Christmas every day for opposing political parties
Parallax View
which political party are you referring to.., I know of one that’s a fringe cult, calls itself ‘Republican’
Posted by: Oh Yeah | May 28, 2009, 1:34 am 1:34 am
oh yeah…I wouldn’t know, I am not a Republican… but I have heard on good authority that the Democrats can be just as “cult like.”
Posted by: Parallax View | May 28, 2009, 1:41 am 1:41 am
yeah danforth , i have noticed alot of “moderate” democrats who are lately calling for the same things republicans always do , tax cuts for the wealthy ,business subsidies , no anti-gun laws, more earmarking . etc ,and voting against obama sometimes .
easy to see they are just riding the anti republican sentiment and using the democratic name to stay in office anyway they can … lying scumbags
Posted by: bill douherty | May 28, 2009, 1:52 am 1:52 am
This is just political BS, Jones doesn’t have a clue, just like his boss, the Messiah.
N. Korea test a Hiroshima-size bomb, shoots missiles over Japan, talks about war with S. Korea, & sells nuclear & missile technology to Islamic crazies.
Pakistan (a failed state) may be taken over by the Taliban – more Islamic crazies with nuclear weapons.
Iran will soon have nuclear arms & the missile delivery systems to use them while Obama makes empty speeches.
Oh sure, I feel sooooooo much safer.
Posted by: Terry | May 28, 2009, 2:38 am 2:38 am
Terry . . . .
9/11 happened 9 months into Bush and Cheney’s reign and the right tried to pin it on Clinton.
How come after 4 months you’re trying to blame all this on the Obama administration?
Sounds like hypocritical garbage to me.
Posted by: danita | May 28, 2009, 3:21 am 3:21 am
Arnold is doing the Shock Doctrine on California, and Obama isn’t doing anything to help our state. But he came here tonight for a fundraiser.
I miss Bill and Hillary. They always helped California.
Posted by: Arnoldresignnow | May 28, 2009, 3:24 am 3:24 am
Danita – I didn’t say Obama is responsible for the nasty developments I mentioned. Bush also dropped the ball – he went along with the incredibly incompetent Condi Rice & the morons at the State Dept.
Clinton is equally responsible, another master of BS like Obama.
What I am saying is that having another Jimmy Carter in the White House certainly does not make me feel safer.
Quite the contrary, an appeasement-minded image-over-substance intellectually shallow amateur-hour president who spouts an endless quantity of empty BS rhetoric is hardly my choice of leader given the dangers to our security we face.
Posted by: Terry | May 28, 2009, 3:46 am 3:46 am
Terry . …
Good to hear you admit President Obama is not responsible for the nasty developments.
I disagree with your assessment on the other items and would note that President Carter had negotiated a release for the hostage in Iran but the sleazeballs behind the Reagan team had negotiated an arms deal for Iran if they kept the hostages captive until the Reagan inauguration. What? You think that was coincidence the hostages were released on Reagan’s inauguration day?
American politicians have been so sleazy over the years. How can you trust a country that supported repressive dictators in order to get cheap raw materials and political sway, while at the same time professing to its people and the world to be the champion of democracy.
Let’s hope that improves.
Posted by: danita | May 28, 2009, 4:18 am 4:18 am
Danita – No one is afraid of Obama, no one is listening to him except for the gullible & naive in the US. I hate to break this to you, but the world is a very nasty place inhabited by some really unpleasant people – that is reality. Pretty speeches are not a substitute for effective foreign policy including military action. If, as it seems, America’s new motto is, ”Appease your enemies & screw your friends.” then some very nasty people will take the opportunity offered with nothing in return, they will take advantage of weakness, as they are doing now. That is how the world works, not according to liberal BS rhetoric.
And, I would add, that while American foreign policy has been far from perfect, it has always been far far more admirable than anyone elses. I’m not into America-bashing when the other world powers are so much worse.
And Jimmy ”the dhimmi” Carter allowed the Shah of Iran to fall – a mistake of major proportions, among other rather enormous blunders.
Posted by: Terry | May 28, 2009, 4:44 am 4:44 am
Let’s reframe this article.
ABC cites an administration employee to praise his boss.
Posted by: james | May 28, 2009, 7:08 am 7:08 am
I wouldn’t drink any Kool-Aid served up by a Jim Jones.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 28, 2009, 8:45 am 8:45 am
Is he kidding? The world is entering a very dangerous phase of history.Iran is on the cusp of developing a nuclear weapon, and has mastered the bomb fuel process. N Korea is more bellicose than in any time since the 1950′s.
Both of these countries may kick off a nuclear arms race in the ME and Pacific Rim before the President’s term ends.
Pakistan is coming apart and the U.S. is trying to stabilize it with remotely piloted bombing.
It seems Gen. Jones is either ignorant or incompetent to believe we are increasingly ‘safer’.
Posted by: J House | May 28, 2009, 8:46 am 8:46 am
“however he did receive briefings in Crawford on August 6th prior to 9/11 from CIA who flew there out of grave concern of an impending attack.”
Another rehash, impending terrorist attack memo, one of many. Don’t know where or how, but its coming. You know how many of those have happened since 9/11? Yet nothing happened. Its called “CIA” covering their ass. Whats the first question that comes out of anyones mouth when something like 9/11 happened? Did we know it was coming? To you the answer is yes, because of a memo of impending attack, one of many. Don’t know who, how, or where. Amazing how sanctimonious people can be never have worked in the military or intelligence. Ah but your so much smarter than us.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 8:50 am 8:50 am
Obama is not responsible.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 28, 2009, 8:55 am 8:55 am
“Are you going to magically explain away Admiral Mike Mullen, General David Petraeus and Secretary of Defense, Bob Gates who are also in agreement with James Jones?”
Ah your right! If they spoke out against the Presidents national security advisor, I’m sure their job and future would be totally safe. Give me a break. Flag officers are part of the political system and they WILL NOT speak out against whichever President is in power while they are in office. To do so is a career ender.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Let’s not forget Iraq….Gen Jones is under the impression that Iraq’s democractic history has already been written.
Does he forget we went through a bloody civil war ourselves and it took us more than 200 yrs to get it right?
Does he understand that Iraqis have not settled their ethnic and religious differences yet (to put it mildly)and we are on a strict timetable to leave, no matter what?
Has he forgotten that the most senior AQ leaders are still free to plot more attacks against our country?
Are we really safer when Iran and NK let the nuclear genie out of the bottle and aid our enemy so they can follow up with the most destructive attack in U.S. history?
The President has the audacity to hope that that day never comes.
Posted by: J House | May 28, 2009, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Soldiers marching in lock step.. imagine it.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 28, 2009, 9:02 am 9:02 am
“This is called a ‘straw man’ argument; you ignore the stated argument “9/11 happened on the Bush/Cheney watch so there security wasn’t so perfect”
Wow, I feel like im trying to explain phsysics to an 8 year old. Prior to 9/11, terrorism was handled peacemeal. Military involvement was minor and only when called upon. Intel resources committed to terror were minor. Translators and collection resources were not allocated. None of this existed prior to 9/11. All of these things were drastically increased after 9/11. A major shift in the military focus happened because of 9/11. None of those things would have, and I argue could have happened, before 9/11 cause no one cared. The American people didn’t care. But yes it did happen on their watch, but I also realize no one gave 2 cents about terror then. I was in the military as a pilot at that time. It wasn’t anything we trained for or briefed on. It wasn’t on the radar. So if your going to use the 9 months prior to 9/11 as a judge of security, then you need to go back 18 years to Beruit and start there to figure out why no one cared, through 3 administrations. We had an opportunity in 1993 to ratchet up resources and go after terrorists after they attacked on our soil and we didn’t. I don’t blame Clinton mind you, there was little outrage from the American people for him to make the drastic changes needed. Plus he was in the middle of cutting out half of the military, we were just coming off the cold war, many factors influence him to handle that the way he did. Embassy bombings, Cole, all happened overseas and no one really cared. It took 9/11 for YOU to care, for ME to care. Anything that happened before is only historical perspective.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 9:06 am 9:06 am
“He explained the US was safer because of the decision to close the detention facility, increased defense spending, the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the responsible pullout of troops from Iraq.”
Wow, Jones has really swallowed this one whole. I know for a fact cause I work in DOD that there are budget issues beginning to come up accross the DOD. The Navy has a hold on all PCS moves until next fiscal year! Pilots out on aircraft carriers are flying 3 times a week instead of twice a day. Wheres that increased defense spending Mr. Jones???
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 9:29 am 9:29 am
“increased defense spending”
Ok Mr. Jones, you know people can look this up. Defense budget for FY09, according to Defense Budget Estimates for FY09, shows a decrease of 51 Billion dollars, going from current (at the time) 552.3 Billion to 501.4 Billion for FY09. I guess even Mr. Jones integrity can be compromised.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 9:35 am 9:35 am
“increased defense spending”
Defense Budget in Billions (adjusted for purchasing power)
FY07 600.9
FY08 566.2 (Budget and emergency spending actually went up in FY08, but lost purchasing power)
FY09 515.4
FY10 523.8
FY11 530.3
FY12 539.1
FY13 548.9
According to the national defense budget, even by FY13, the Obama administration will still be below FY08 defense budget. OH but they increase defense spending from FY09 to FY13. What a joke.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 9:46 am 9:46 am
I’m not so sure that hundreds of years of animosity toward that West are really affected by the Gitmo closing.. it seems a stretch….to me…
…also, not convinced that the Iraq/Afghan/Paki.. policy is really a big change or adds to regional stability..
maybe this guy is using the POTUS’s teleprompter… nothing new or convincing..so far as I can tell….
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 28, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
Spencer wrote: “…however he did receive briefings in Crawford on August 6th prior to 9/11 from CIA who flew there out of grave concern of an impending attack.”
Have you read the briefing? It’s on the Internet for everyone to read. The last three paragraphs state:
“We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a —- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
“Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
“The FBI is conducting approximately 70 full-field investigations throughout the U.S. that it considers bin Laden-related. CIA and the FBI are investigating a call to our embassy in the UAE in May saying that a group or bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives.”
There was NO warning of an “impending attack.” To the contrary it stated that there has been “suspicicious activity” since 1998.
What else would you expect President Bush to have done? The FBI and the CIA were investigating every reported threat. Unfortunately the “wall” that the Clinton administration placed preventing law enforcement from communicating with the intelligence agencies didn’t allow the FBI and the CIA to share their findings. Would sharing or even join investigations have prevented 9/11? Possibly! But we will never know.
Posted by: James Danley | May 28, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am
“I’m not so sure that hundreds of years of animosity toward that West are really affected by the Gitmo closing.. it seems a stretch….to me…”
Does nothing really. Our enemies didn’t care really. Any use of GITMO propaganda wise by our enemies was directed towards the west. It had a bigger impact with our allies though changing it doesn’t some how magically mean our allies will commit more resources for US interests, that won’t change either. So what we get out of it is closing something that was demonized by political banter. Sort of our own self created boogeyman that we have to get rid of now after we dressed him up as the boogeyman. In reality all we are doing is taking off the boogeyman costume and moving him elsewhere. Didn’t change anything. But makes for good rhetoric.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 10:21 am 10:21 am
Oh Yeah wrote: “I missed your explanation of what exactly did 9/11 have to do with the invasion of Iraq.”
Following the attacks of 9/11, the Bush Administration changed our national security policy from being “reactive” to being “proactive.”
Posted by: James Danley | May 28, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am
“He has said clearly and unequivocally that we are at war with terrorism and terrorism can take many facets.”
The former President was often accused of fighting a ‘verb’…i.e., fighting ‘terrorism’, not ‘terrorists’.
So, Mr. President, are we still fighting a global ‘war on terror’, or not?
Posted by: J House | May 28, 2009, 10:23 am 10:23 am
“So, Mr. President, are we still fighting a global ‘war on terror’, or not?”
Oh no, its overseas contingency operations. Friend of mine made an awesome recreation of an old WW2 poster that says “America is at War and Uncle Sam wants you!” He modified it and it said “America is at Overseas Contigency Operations and Uncle Same wants you to fight man-caused-disasters”
Lol its a riot.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
“The extent of the cuts remains unclear, but the flying-hour reductions will last until the end of the fiscal year as part of the Navy’s fleetwide efforts to deal with the budget crunch on Capitol Hill.”
So much for that increase in defense spending Mr. Jones.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 11:16 am 11:16 am
He explained the US was safer because of the decision to close the detention facility, increased defense spending, the new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and the responsible pullout of troops from Iraq.
This is an opinion based on an
already failed strategy aka blah, blah,
blah!
There is No Proof that the decision to
close Gitmo has made us safer unless
you count the fact that the Iranians and the North Koreans are going
forward with their nuclear programs
despite our “stern warnings”! LOL.
The new strategy in Afganistan and
Pakistan is working? How? When? Bull!
The Iraq withdrawn was negotiated
under President Bush.
In other words Jones is a Liar!
Posted by: reaganfan | May 28, 2009, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm
Following the attacks of 9/11, the Bush Administration changed our national security policy from being “reactive” to being “proactive.”
Posted by: James Danley
I repeat, what did attacking and invading Iraq
have to do with the 9/11 attack
Posted by: Oh Yeah | May 28, 2009, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm
“I repeat, what did attacking and invading Iraq
have to do with the 9/11 attack”
Did you ever go read the authorization for war approved by both parties in Congress? If you get time, please do.
Posted by: KR | May 28, 2009, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm
“Following the attacks of 9/11, the Bush Administration changed our national security policy from being “reactive” to being “proactive.”"
So they attacked a country that was zero threat to us or our allies.
Makes total sense.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 28, 2009, 4:35 pm 4:35 pm
James Jones’ comments make his NSA job more secure.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 28, 2009, 5:33 pm 5:33 pm
ryan c…Kuwait Invaded by Iraq forces, Gulf War, NFZ Operation Northern Watch and Operation Southern Watch protecting Kurds and mission of preventing further inhumane acts against civilian populations American and British received anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces daily….Ummmm sounds like threat too me…
Posted by: Parallax View | May 28, 2009, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm
“Kuwait Invaded by Iraq forces, Gulf War, NFZ Operation Northern Watch and Operation Southern Watch protecting Kurds and mission of preventing further inhumane acts against civilian populations American and British received anti-aircraft fire from Iraqi forces daily”
ZERO THREAT to the United States.
ZERO Threat to our allies in the MidEast.
The attack on Iraq was viewed by the lunatics in the Bush admin as a cakewalk and something to burnish Bush’s national defense credibility in the wake of 9/11 happening on his watch.
Over 4000 Americans have died, with tens of thousands maimed as well as over a hundred thousand Iraqi civilians dead because Bush made the decision to attack a country that was no threat to us. Even cooking up intelligence to scare the American people to go along with it.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 28, 2009, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm
1. The Democrats claimed that Iraq’s WMDs posed a serious threat to the United States and Iraq’s neighbors in 1998. Some even said the threat was imminent. So Congress passed the Iraq Liberation Act. All throughout 1998-2000 the the Clinton Administration continued to talk about the threat that Iraq posed to the United States.
2. The Bush Administration was briefed during the transition by the Clinton Administration on Iraq’s WMDs and the threat that it posed to the United States and Iraq’s neighbors in Dec 2000 and Jan 2001.
3. The intelligence agencies continued to brief President Bush on Iraq’s WMD programs.
4. Former Ambassador Joe Wilson returned from his African trip and verbally told the CIA that an Iraq delegation had traveled to Niger in 1999 and that Niger officials believed that they were interested in buying uranium. Contrary to what his article stated, the CIA believed that this corroborated their belief that Saddam Hussein was seeking yellowcake uranium. NOTE: Iraq sold 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium to Canada in July of 2008.
5. At one point, Iraq actually launched a missile at one of our planes while it was in Kuwaiti airspace. NOTE: This alone was an act of war.
6. Following the attacks of 9/11, President Bush changed our national security policy to one of being proactive — we would no longer wait until after an attack or until a threat became imminent before taking action.
7. Congress passed the Authorization For Use Of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002. Read the entire resolution. It’s on the Internet.
8. We learned that Iraq did not have WMDs ONLY AFTER the invasion. However the fact that Iraq did not have WMDs is irrelevant. That’s because one of the conditions of the 1991 Cease Fire was that Saddam Hussein had to prove that he no longer had WMDs. After 12 years of failing to comply with a single condition of the ceasefire, the UN Security Council finally issued it final ultimatum in 2002. However, they made it clear that they had no intention of following through on the ultimatum. So President Bush issued his own final ultimatum. When Saddam Hussein refused to comply, President Bush rescinded the 1991 Cease Fire and resumed the original Gulf War.
9. The Bush Administration did not view the invasion as a cakewalk. For months leading up to the invasion there was much discussion of how difficult the street fighting would be. Then, when at the very last minute Turkey denied our use of their airspace for the northern flank of the invasion, the Bush Administration knew that minus the northern flank we would not be able to contain Saddam Hussein’s army in Baghdad. And that would make the battle even more difficult.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2009, 3:09 am 3:09 am
One additional comment regarding Saddam Hussein, as you recall President Bush frequently stated: “If you hide a terrorist, if you feed a terrorist, if you provide comfort to a terrorist, you’re just as guilty as the terrorist.”
Within the Authorization For Use Of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 are the following statements:
“Whereas Iraq’s demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by the United States to defend itself;”
AND
“Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of United States citizens;” (NOTE: Saddam Hussein provided at least $10 million to the families–up to $25,000 per family–of Palestinian suicide bombers who attacked Israel.)”
I ask you, what would your response be today if we had NOT invaded Iraq and Iraq had given WMDs to terrorists who then attacked Israel, Europe or even the United States? I reiterate, it was the result of our invasion of Iraq that PROVED that Iraq no longer had WMDs.
Posted by: James Danley | May 29, 2009, 9:22 am 9:22 am
ryanc…Threat: 1.Expression of an INTENTION to inflict something harmful. 2.An indication of impending danger or harm. 3. One regarded as a POSSIBLE danger: MENANCE
Houghton Mifflin College Dictonary
To say Saddam Hussein posed no “threat” to either our allies or ourselves is someone who is in complete:
Denial: 1. A refusal to comply with or satisfy a request. 2. A refusal to acknowledge the truth of a statement or allegation: CONTRADICTION. 3. A rejection as of a doctrine or belief. 4. The act of disowning or disavowing: REPUDIATION…And finally…SELF-DENIAL
Posted by: Parallax View | May 29, 2009, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm