POTUS Gets to Pick a Supreme

And if I remember right, didn’t Obama filibuster Alito?
What goes around….

Elections have consequences…

“Then exactly what is it that makes a President and a bunch of profligate Democrats more knowledgeable about one’s health than one’s own doctor?”
Letting the debate whether Democrats are any more lewd than Republican aside there seem to be many differing views on what ‘health’ encompasses. Lots of people don’t do anything about their health until they have to see their doctor because they’re already sick. -btw- Did you ever notice how bad the food is in hospitals? You go there because you’re ill and then they try and kill you with the food.

Hopefully, he will select a 30-35 year old woman who will remain on the court for the next 40 years. Let’s hope that by the end of his term, he will have made enough appointments to de-fang Robertson and his allies for the forseeable future.

“Then exactly what is it that makes a President and a bunch of profligate Democrats more knowledgeable about one’s health than one’s own doctor?”
Dr John, they think they already know more than auto company managers, stock and mortgage analysts as well as all of the bankers.
Not suprising they think they know more about health care than the pros.

“…they think they already know more than auto company managers, stock and mortgage analysts as well as all of the bankers.”
And why should we be impressed with how much these guys knew about their respective businesses?

“All this shows is George Bush Sr,the Republican President of the United States who named Souter to the Supreme Court wasn’t as partial as Obama is. Bush wasn’t a liberal, but named a liberal to the court.”
Historical revisionism at it finest.
Souter was picked for his conservative credentials.
NR: Most conservatives, presented with a fait accompli and assured by White House Chief of Staff John Sununu that Souter would be “a home run,’ supported the nominee with varying degrees of enthusiasm. His Senate testimony defending an originalist approach to constitutional interpretation led Terry Eastland to predict in these pages that Souter would defend the original meaning of the Constitu-tion and thus probably provide the fifth vote to overrule Roe v. Wade.

This is one scary time – to think Obama will appoint a Supreme Court Justice. He has no clue. When he signs the aborton bill, will be allow his daughters to have abortions if they should need one. I would love to ask him that question? Never in my lifetime have I seen a more incompetent man than Obama. He is one scary person. All he does is try to do Bush in – well Bush is no longer president. I fear as many do that we will have another attack on this country if he continues his agenda. Of course, he would call America arrogant – he was not raised here – he is the one that is arrogant. He said in his book “Audicity of Hope” that he would never vote Republican, regardless. He criticized Republicans and it was awful. He called Reagan “that old man” who never got his vote. What arrogance. So Michelle Obama is a descendant of slaves – we are all descendants from somewhere. She too is very, very bad for this country.

The problem for obama with his judicial pick began the other day with spector finally admitting that he is a dem. And why does that make it more difficult for obama? Because, for a judicial nominee to leave committee and be voted upon by the full sentate REQUIRES THAT AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE MINORITY PARTY VOTE FOR THE NOMINEE (this is a law). Since spector has now come out as a dem, and the rest on the judicial committee that are from GOP are fairly conservative, so things are not all peaches and cream for obama because of this. Be careful what you wish for. And if one of his libs make it to the full senate, there is still the fillibuster. And you know what they say about payback….

“Because, for a judicial nominee to leave committee and be voted upon by the full sentate REQUIRES THAT AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE MINORITY PARTY VOTE FOR THE NOMINEE (this is a law).”
Its amazing the amount of completely false things that right wingers know.
In regards to Alito:
“All of the eight Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee voted against him Tuesday, leading to a 10-8 party-line vote for the 55-year-old judge from the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.”

“Here’s the president’s last three primetime news events:
Feb: 9: 49.5 million
March 24: 40.4 million
April 29: 28.8 million”
Some drop off is expected and the drop between 3/24 and 4/29 has more to do with 1 less network showing the presser.

… or maybe it’s because more people are beginning to realize that Obama is the Original Sham-Wow Man.

“Some drop off is expected and the drop between 3/24 and 4/29 has more to do with 1 less network showing the presser.”
Actually, it had to do with the president no longer having a monopoly of all five networks at his disposal. And the one that didn’t carry him drew more than any of the others.

“drjohn prefers that an insurance company make your decisions about healthcare.”
So do I. That way, if I don’t like the decisions I can always shop for a different insurance company. Ask the Brits and the Canadians how they’ve fared shopping for a different government bureaucracy.

“Most conservatives, presented with a fait accompli and assured by White House Chief of Staff John Sununu that Souter would be “a home run,’ supported the nominee with varying degrees of enthusiasm.”
His principal supporter was the Moderate Hero Warren Rudman. In retrospect, we now know that Souter simply lied in order to get confirmed.

So do I. That way, if I don’t like the decisions I can always shop for a different insurance company.
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With a pre-existing condition? Bwahahaha.
It must be nice to live in LaLa-Land
We have asked the Canandians and the Brits: they won’t trade their healthcare systems for the world with the US-system.
But don’t worry: you won’t get theirs either. You’re getting a variant of Bismarck-model, not the Beveridge. Think Austria, German, Dutch.
But thanks for playing

“I taught constitutional law for ten years at the University of Chicago …”
Quite simply a bald-faced lie, as Gibbs has since confirmed.
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It must be. Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. That’s 12 years.

s this really good news for Obama? I’m not so sure. Picking a new justice takes attention away from his broader agenda and could galvanize Republicans and moderates, especially if a liberal judge is picked.

Hyena:
re: “I will concede that I was wrong.”
LOL, ..well,.. certainly That will make THE difference in cosmic events…..

I have a feeling that he will pick a Latino women for the court and thus make history.

“With a pre-existing condition? Bwahahaha.”
Sure–I’ve done it.
But even if I hadn’t been able to do so, it would never have occurred to me to demand that someone else pay for my medical care. And when the someone else is the taxpayer, the leftist deludes himself into thinking it is “free.” It is only when his loved ones die on the lenghty waiting lists that he discovers the delights of the rationing that is done in each and every single-payer system in the world, and will be done in the US if we adopt such a system.
Obama will long since be out of office before the pernicious effects of this failed system become apparent to increasing millions of Americans, for whom it will then be too late.
But not for me. I’ve taken good care of myself, provided for my own health care, and am nearing the end of a very happy and productive life. Too bad for those of you in your twenties and thirties–you’ll never have an opportunity to enjoy the life I’ve had.

Telegraph:
“A life-saving treatment will be denied to tens of thousands of victims of Britain’s most common male cancer after a U-turn by the NHS rationing body.
The groundbreaking ultrasound therapy has been shown to kill nine out of 10 prostate tumours, and five years after treatment, 80 per cent of patients show no sign of the cancer recurring.
Compared with surgery or conventional radiotherapy treatment, it is not invasive and is far less likely to lead to devastating side effects such as impotence or incontinence.”

Hillary Clinton. That could be the choice. I think she would love it. She is an accomplished lawyer with decades of legal experience (name another lawyer who has been involved with legal disputes as varied as Arkansas landdeals and Presidential impeachment). She shares Obama key values (Alinsky, etc.) She is a woman. And I think the Clinton have “something” on Obama- why else did he appoint her SecOfState after that bitter campaign.

I hope Obama picks a liberal to bring some much needed balance to the Supreme Court. I hope he doesn’t try to kiss Republican butt and pick a conservative. He needs to stop trying to appease right wing wackos who want no part of him.

I seem to remember Hillary Clinton’s name mentioned for the first seat that comes available, but that was before her appointment as SOS.

I don’t mind Hillary as a person but, oh heavens, look into her legal past. She was a mediocre lawyer at best. Obama will definitely not pick a moderate or conservative. He will pick someone who is an activist judge with far left leaning beliefs.

He taught courses (as a lecturer) on the equal protection and due process clauses of the constitution. At my law school, if such a person claimed to have “taught constitutional law” he would have been regarded as dishonest.
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Oh. I get it: you use a peculiar definition of “teaching constitutional law” and therefor the rest of the world lies.
Get a grip.

Mad: one thing you would well do to understand is that the way the US deals with prostate cances is the reason why the US pays way more for healthcare than necessary.
“Prostate cancer develops most frequently in men over the age of fifty and is one of the most prevalent types of cancer in men. However, *many men who develop prostate cancer never have symptoms, undergo no therapy, and eventually die of other causes*. This is because cancer of the prostate is, in most cases, slow-growing, and because most of those affected are over the age of 60. Hence, they often die of causes unrelated to the prostate cancer, such as heart/circulatory disease, pneumonia, other unconnected cancers, or old age.”
To explain it in more simple terms: the US pays a lot of money on diagnosing and treating an illness that does not have any impact on better health or healthcare. You pay a lot of money and get nothing in return.

“But he never taught a course called Constitutional Law. He taught courses (as a lecturer) on the equal protection and due process clauses of the constitution. At my law school, if such a person claimed to have “taught constitutional law” he would have been regarded as dishonest”
Ahhh its a new tactic, after falsely claiming Obama was not a professor, now right wingers are claiming he never taught Constitutional Law.
As usual the dishonest ones are the right wingers.

“They’re now pioneering [in Canada] the ultimate expression of government health care: the ten-month waiting list for the maternity ward.”
Now you’re posting an industry shills blog!
ROFLMAO!

I herewith provide actual facts, free of charge, for the struggling Mr. Ryan C.:
“But in an ironic twist, Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter’s switch to the Democratic Party this week could give Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee the upper hand in rejecting a nominee they find unacceptable.
“That’s because the Judiciary Committee, where Specter was the ranking minority member, requires the consent of at least one Republican to end debate and move a nominee to the full Senate for a vote.”
Harvard Law, class of ’76, Ryan. Paul Freund for Con Law. Classmates included Franklin Raines (disgraced former Fannie Mae CEO), former Sen. Tom Campbell, and Mickey Kaus.

“Ahhh its a new tactic, after falsely claiming Obama was not a professor, now right wingers are claiming he never taught Constitutional Law.”
Nothing new about it at all–as Mr. Gibbs has noted, he simply didn’t teach Constitutional Law, period. Every basic ConLaw course includes study of, among many other topics, the Interstate Commerce Clause cases and the First Amendment cases–which Obama never taught and, so far as we can glean from any transcript he has released, never studied.

“That’s because the Judiciary Committee, where Specter was the ranking minority member, requires the consent of at least one Republican to end debate and move a nominee to the full Senate for a vote.”
And yet Alito was approved by the the Judiciary committee without a single minority party vote.
“The Senate Judiciary Committee, with all Republicans voting in favor and all Democrats opposed, agreed at 12:21 p.m. Tuesday to report the Supreme Court nomination of Judge Samual A. Alito, Jr., to the full Senate, with final action expected there before early next week. The Committee vote was 10-8 in Alito’s favor.”
And in contrast to the earlier poster who claimed it was law, its apparently a Senate rule that can be changed at any time.
And William Jacobsen who FoxNews cites is a right wing nutjob.

Ah, the stuff that leftist goofballs think they know:
“Senate Judiciary Committee Rule IV:
“The Chairman shall entertain a non-debatable motion to bring a matter before the Committee to a vote. If there is objection to bring the matter to a vote without further debate, a roll call vote of the Committee shall be taken, and debate shall be terminated if the motion to bring the matter to a vote without further debate passes with ten votes in the affirmative, one of which must be cast by the minority.”
Careful about ad hominem attacks on this piece of info–it’s from the Daily Kos.
As Professor Freund used to say, “we can argue about it, or we can look it up.” I just looked it up for you.

On changing the rules:
“Democrats aren’t powerless to stop a potential filibuster at the committee level. They could change the rules to allow the committee to vote on the nominee and send a recommendation to the full Senate without Republican consent.
“But Jacobson believes that’s unlikely to happen.
“‘The senators, as political as they can be, they have tended to put value on the rules of conduct,’ he said. ‘To change the rules to get a particular nominee confirmed would set a dangerous precedent. I doubt Democrats would want to do that.’
“He added that changing the rules might tick off the unpredictable Specter who has developed a strong respect for tradition.
“‘If Democrats were to change the rule to force through a nominee, he might vote with Republicans,’ Jacobson said.”

“Senate Judiciary Committee Rule IV:”
I have found out the problem.
The rules the right wing now wants the Senate Democrats to follow?
Turns out they ignored them
From Feinstein:
The Judiciary Committee rules contain a clause known as Rule 4 that prevents closing off debate on a nominee unless at least one member of the minority agrees to do so.
It isn’t used a lot but it has been used before when I have been on the committee.
“During debate on the Pryor nomination, the Ranking Member attempted to invoke this rule because members of the minority did not believe that an ongoing investigation into Mr. Pryor’s nomination had been given sufficient time.
Serious allegations were made about Mr. Pryor’s truthfulness to the committee during the hearing, and staff had been looking into those allegations. Put simply, the job has not been completed.
But, as Chairman Hatch did earlier this Congress with regard to the nomination of Deborah Cook and John Roberts, he chose to ignore this rule and force through a vote over the objections of every member of the minority on the committee.

I hope he picks Diana Ross.

Two branches of government under the umbrella.. working on number three.. hope we have enough left to prevent the Presidential term limits to remain in place.

“Two branches of government under the umbrella.. working on number three.. hope we have enough left to prevent the Presidential term limits to remain in place.”
ROFLMAO!
These fears about 1 party in control would be taken as much more sincere if right wingers had not cheered nearly 8 years of dominance of all 3 branches including 2 Supreme appts and a rank politicization of the DOJ.
Oh and in the Senate they ignored Senate rules regarding the minority party’s consent on judicial nominees AND tried to eliminate the fillibuster.

“Great reason to get private insurance. That’s what smart people do. The freeloaders want someone else to take care of them.”
Let’s hope you never get sick causing your insurance company to drop you, fascist hyena.
As the campaign manager for the presidential bid of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), Kent Snyder received a lot of credit for raising $35 million from grassroots supporters, a phenomenal accomplishment for an insurgent campaign.
But, like 48 million other Americans, Snyder had no health insurance, and when he died from pneumonia on June 26 after a two-month hospital stay, he left medical bills totaling over $400,000.

“But, like 48 million other Americans, Snyder had no health insurance, and when he died from pneumonia on June 26 after a two-month hospital stay, he left medical bills totaling over $400,000.”
Pretty stupid of him. So I’m supposed to step up and pay his bills for him?

And Ryan.. how well did that work out (the GOP in control of the lot)??

“The insurance industry has already stated that they can cover all Americans if certain conditions are met.”
Such as the payment of premiums. The loafers and freeloaders will always want someone else to pay for them.
Can we agree that no one who owns a 50″ flat-screen TV is entitled to have someone else pay his premiums, just for starters? Or should he be able to roost in front of it on the couch, drink his Sneaky Pete and expect someone else to pay?

“Actually it was the Clinton administration that repealed the Glass-Stegall Act in 1999,”
Gee what was the name of that bill?
Oh yeah.
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act
Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas)
Jim Leach (R-Iowa).
Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R-Virginia)
Clinton sought to veto the first version but signed the final version.
“which Lawrence Summers hailed as the gateway to the 20th century”
And he was wrong.
Sen Wellstone was right
”Scores of banks failed in the Great Depression as a result of unsound banking practices, and their failure only deepened the crisis,” Mr. Wellstone said. ”Glass-Steagall was intended to protect our financial system by insulating commercial banking from other forms of risk. It was one of several stabilizers designed to keep a similar tragedy from recurring. Now Congress is about to repeal that economic stabilizer without putting any comparable safeguard in its place.”

“Such as the payment of premiums.”
Or having a preexisting condition.
Like I said, I hope you never get sick fascist and have to watch your insurance company drop you.

“Such as the payment of premiums. The loafers and freeloaders will always want someone else to pay for them.
Can we agree that no one who owns a 50″ flat-screen TV is entitled to have someone else pay his premiums…”
Are you trying to claim that the tens of millions of Americans that don’t have health insurance are all freeloaders? We’ll have to see how well that works for you in 2010. Also we’re not talking about flippin’ TV’s here. People are dying because of this problem.

Ryan
The anti-bush thing will work for years.. he’s the new hoover.. a WMD in every pot. I would never be a Republican..
The Democrats can fall into the same trap, set your agenda and close your eyes and ears.. balance of power is a good thing..
The Dems should hope the Republicans hang on forever.. they’ll never find weaker opponents..

Obama is right on his road to turn the US into a Leninist state. He has stated that the Warren Court did not go far enough to break the constraints of the Founding Fathers.
He fully intends to use the courts to impose “econommic justice”, i.e. redistribution of wealth.

“Obama is right on his road to turn the US into a Leninist state. He has stated that the Warren Court did not go far enough to break the constraints of the Founding Fathers.”
Yes how dare the Warren Court rule that separate but equal was unconstitutional.
Also Obama was discussing the civil rights movements reliance on the courts and the inability of the courts to address economic differences.
So we have a lie and a outrage at the overturning of the separate but equal doctrine….just another day in the life of a right winger.

“The Dems should hope the Republicans hang on forever.. they’ll never find weaker opponents..”
While the GOP is weak now, that will not always be the case.
I think Eric Cantor may be the best thing going for them behind the scenes.

“Funny how we can’t racially profile for criminals but we can for SCOTUS candidates.” ~ drjohn
Best quote of the day! (And, the day isn’t even over yet, but that’s gotta be it.)

Ryan,
Are you going to spend the rest of Obama’s term blaming the Republicans for everything? Is it too much for you to just say ‘hey- my mistake’? No one here knows everything. It’s really no more embarrassing to say you didn’t realize something than to try to blame the evil opposition. I feel confident there are many people on here who don’t take your opinion as seriously as you do. You won’t let the world down by admiting you were wrong. Remember, Obama told us all last week not to be discouraged when making mistakes. It’s how we learn. Well, I assume he meant all of us when he said that to the CIA.
I’m one of those who loves a good debate and I don’t normally throw flames, but come on- this is silly.
Ryan said:
“A scant few hours ago you were ridiculing the notion that such a rule existed.”
Apprently 8 years of Republicans ignoring the rule led me to believe it no longer existed.
A reminder to all of us to never trust Republicans again.

It’s about time everyone acted on whats right not what the crowd is doing. Being a Republican or Democrat means nothing when we elect whacked out people who have their own agendas and don’t care about the American people. Most everyone wants a good job and a home and family. Everyone wants to feel good about themselves. Yet there are special groups who are taking away all our rights with distractions and confusion. They want all the normal Americans fighting each other and not to hear each other. If we talk to each other instead of being told what they think we need to know.We can can have a better country. Mexico sucks. Maybe we need to educate them and send them back to create their own and better Mexico. first and foremost we need to talk to each other and stop claiming bigotry when none was applied.Our country needs to walk in balance and the enviro groups have twisted their data with out thought and they need to be pulled back. The co2 problem is not a problem. We need elevated co2 for crops which are fast growing .With out it the wold crops will not produce the food everyone needs. the data on this is being suppressed by Gore and his friends.It is their own data that show the crop failures will happen.You can stop droughts with global warming because it will rain in the arid lands. The same places they claim great concern over. They are after power not anything else.