President Obama to Reinstate Revamped Military Tribunals

Also, Our President will close Gitmo, physically move it to Bagram, and re-open it as “Camp Snugglebunnies. Everybody will be happy.

So, does this mean that much remains the same but the courtrooms will be painted a pastel yellow for a more cheerful tribunal.

Gitmo detainees held hostage, Day 114.

Well, he’s flip-flopped on wiretapping, on renditions and now on military commissions, and he’s no doubt wishing to God he hadn’t said anything about Guantanamo.

Oh my, it just keeps getting worse.

Obama is Bush-Lite!

“Well, he’s flip-flopped on wiretapping, on renditions and now on military commissions, ”
Did you bother to even read the post? No flip-flop at all. Obama ordered a continuance of 120 days to review the commissions. He is for them AS THE ARTICLE STATES, but done in accordance with our constitution and International law.

Unbelievable, these people are just now getting a trial.
As for the poster who said “Gitmo detainees held hostage, Day 114.” More like Day 2,555.

“Unbelievable, these people are just now getting a trial. ”
When you are captured as an enemy in war, you can be kept until the end of the war. The war has not ended, has it. How long, for instance, was John McCain held a POW?

you cannot trust a thing Barry says, he changes with the wind, if it suits his agenda

The hypocrisy of Obama the administration is astounding. Prosecute the founders of the very war he insists on still fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. We should pull out of both places on June 30, 2009! Why has it taken so long? Why do we need to be in Afghanistan? You can say Pakistan but even if it fell it would just be a new military regime to deal with. The current regime wont even tell Obama where the nukes are either! I hate to mention the opium poppy fields but they are still standing and supplying 90% of the world’s heroin. Those people were trying to find Osama Bin Laden but the Bush administration couldnt even do that with abuses and waterboarding. How do you stop the terrorists but still be nice to them? How do you defeat the Taliban if you dont destroy the source of their income (heroin from opium poppies). How else are they being armed?

They will be tried under civilized laws. Not like the Kangaroo courts under Bush. There is a big difference here. Same bady will try them but under different laws. Thats a big difference.

keith…..If you think that we are no longer “interrogating” terrorists you are fooling yourself. It is now being done in a foreign friendly country under the “observation” of the CIA. It gives Obama “plausible deniability”

“The war has not ended, has it.” ACTUALLY IT HAS.”
Really? Then why are we sending soldiers to fight in Afghanistan? Has Obama declared the war over?

Gee if obama wasn’t president he’d be protesting his own policies. He told so many lies to get elected it’s ridiculous

It’s not so easy now is it Mr. obama once you’re in that big chair it gets REAL pretty quickly. We’re going to be witnessing “obama grows up” over the next 4 years.

“Has Obama declared the war over?”
Nancy Pelosi declared it over in 2005. And who could ever doubt anything Nancy said?

“seeeeee bush was right all along”
Uh, no.
“…the version pushed by the Bush administration, which ultimately passed the Senate and was found unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.”
That would be the big ‘ol Wrong stamp there. Bush was sloppy and inept in this arena. The guilty at Guantanamo should already be 3 years into their 999 year sentence or 6 feet under by now, but instead they were just shoved under the carpet for the next administration to deal with. At least he quietly released the 350 or so obviously innocent.

“seeeeee bush was right all along”
“Uh, no.”
Uh, yes. Bush, Liz Cheney, and Obama (after flipping) all agree that the detainee photos would be detrimental to our soldiers and country if publicly released.

“As we have seen quite conclusively, the Guantanamo solution devised by Bush worked just fine…”
I can’t understand how anyone can see the prison camp at Gitmo as being a viable solution, or that anything has been concluded. It’s still an ongoing problem.

Make each of them live with an ACLU member for the next year. Could solve two problems. Think about it, Just need to make sure hand guns ammo and knives are available to both sides as they hold hands and rejoice in each of their hard fought battles to be fair and just.

“It’s ridiculous that we are closing the facility.”
I just can’t argue about this stuff with you guys forever. At some point, like George Will says when he gets frustrated, we just have to decide at the polls. Many of the choices people make are based on comfort levels. Most Americans for whatever reasons are not comfortable with torture or holding people in this manner regardless of the perceived danger in not doing so. You are perfectly justified in making your case but if you don’t come up with anything new after a certain point people are going to stop listening.

Skip it seems to me that the onus is on you to present an alternative.

According to the WSJ….
The Obama administration is weighing plans to detain some terror suspects on U.S. soil — indefinitely and without trial — as part of a plan to retool military commission trials that were conducted for prisoners held in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Uh, yes. Bush, Liz Cheney, and Obama (after flipping) all agree that the detainee photos would be detrimental to our soldiers and country if publicly released—uh no. Maybe he caved to the right wing. Not exactly amirable, but it is different than saying torture under bush would make anyone torture while Obama is president. I dont think there is a person alive in the world older than 5 who doesn’t know Barak Obama is president of the United States.

Boxcar,
Nobody will be tortured under Obama`s presidency.
And Obama never said he was going to end the war in Afghanistan. Rather he said he will end the war in Iraq that was waged based on lies. Withdrawal will start after the election in June.

Frank,
Photos or no photos we know Bush and Cheney conducted torture which republicans seem to fully support.
Under Obama, there`d be no torture. Plain and simple.

Fascist Hyena: So, how many of the poor, snuggly hostages from Gitmo will you take to live in YOUR OWN HOUSE? I’ll sign you up for 10. Now, don’t go all NIMBY on me….

Please remember that when you accept your very own cuddly Gitmo “hostage”, please don’t torture them in any way. That includes making them look at or listen to Wanda Sykes, Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi

Please remember that when you accept your very own cuddly Gitmo “hostage”, please don’t torture them in any way—–again, bottom line – torture doesn’t work. Period. We went into iraq based on two pieces of ‘inteligence”. one was Chalaby. The liar cheat felon who wanted the united states to make him the puppet president. that lasted for about 10 minutes. The second pieces of ‘intelligence” was from a tortured prisoner in a lybian jail. European countries looked at this ‘proof’ and said “one is a criminal, and the other will say he’s the toothfairy under those conditions. we dont believe you”. And they were…….CORRECT!!! the prisoner being tortured made it all up. What do you want me to tell you? Saddam has WMD? Ok. Saddam has them. Tons. Where? uhh.. where do yo uwant them to be. yup. They’re there. the testimony from a CIA agent who was a spy for us infiltrated into AQ said the techniques do NOT WORK. They are counter productive, they only shut down prisoners they may have been able to manipulate with other methods, and totally ignored the end game. He said the torture was introduced by contractors who had zero experience with interrogation. he said any progress they made getting information shut down completely when these techniques were used. someone who was formerly giving info shut down with torture. He was water boardered over 80 times, never said another word. It doesn’t work.

Dang and I thought I was the problem.

Everything Obama told you to get elected was a lie. Everything Bush told you was a lie. —well, I have faith in Obama. I do not agree with him on this, but I am impress with how he saved the banks. he acted very quickly, he’s on top of hte financial melt down. bush let Lehman Bros fail. bush allowed derviatves to go 100% unregulated. Those subprimes that went bellyup that were bet on with derivatives that killed our econonmy were NOT made by fannie and freddie, per Business Week Magazine and WSJ, they were made in teh unregulated private sector. All things are NOT equal. REpublican economic policy is wrong in just about every conceivable way. They spent trillions on crap. At least I see Obama spending them on stimulus, on updating the grid, on alternative fuels. At least his spending is pointed, and like radiations, it is not something you’d ever ever do, it’s unhealthy, well, unless you have cancer and you’re dying, and we are. Wallstreet journal said our unemployment would peak at 9% WITH Obama’s stimulus and budget. what would it peak at without????? over 11%. What’s 4% of 300,000,000 people???? The only ones who could ahve handled this mess was Obama or Romney, but I would worry Romney would not have spent enough to get us out. yes, spent! When folks say WWII got us out of the depression, why???? who bought all that stuff we made? who bought the tanks, the guns, the bullets, the planes??? WHO??? The government. Goverment spending for WWII got us out of the depression. When you’re in a bad recession or depression you MUST spend. Nobody likes it, but it is time for Radation. We’ll ahve to deal wit hthe poison from it later. For a patient that lives who would have died, we should feel a privaledge that we will be alive to do so. –and yes, I watched the dog thing. yes, it’s not what I expected either. It is gross.

I hate to say, but in the big scheme of things…who cares about this? nobody cares. Seriously. I know it’s in the news everyday, they’re telling us to care. nobody cares. They have opinions, but nobody really CARES about it. It’s all about the economy. This will have zero effect on anyone’s opinion of Obama. Folks who are conservative will hate him no matter if Jesus came down from heaven and blessed him. Liberals will follow him and the rest of us in the middle, ya know, whatever. Free them, let them go, who cares? if you free them, guess you just got the wrong guy in the first place, if you keep them, guess they were bad. Whatever. Thie pictures, I dont care, that was Bush. Who cares. I’m bored of this. So are the folks are work. We dont care. Partisans do. The rest of us. Whatever. Just another bush mess. Like all the others, is there any good solutions to anything Bush screwed up?? so take your pick of bad options. What else is new? Surely there must be something else to talk about.

What I am afraid of is that the next time American solders are captured by the enemy they will be grossly tortured, humiliated and abused. How will the United States then have any moral or humanitarian authority to protest the treatment of our service men and women? Is torture only good, legel and okay when America does it? I think not.

So i turns out that Bush/Cheney were right in how they treated terrorists. It seems that reality is setting in at the white house regarding terrorists.

I am completely convinced this Obama character is an absolute madman that belongs in a cage with that nut case Pelosi. These two screwballs are in-charge and doing things they know nothing about. Neither have run a business, neither have ever punched a clock and worked for a living, neither have any experience or training in economics. Folks, these two must be stopped before the damage is so deep, recovery may be impossible. Soon, Obama will announce his next attack on America. He will declare that Social Security and Medicare is too costly and needs to be fixed. Watch out her it comes. The US Federal Government is no longer controlled by the US citizen tax payers and voters. It’s controlled by a bunch of crackpots called Congress & the President. When Obama announces closing down Social Security and/or Medicare, we the American people/taxpayers should immediately respond with a nationwide tax revolt. Our government spends hundreds of million every year feeding, clothing, providing free medical care, free transportation, free education, free housing to over 20 million illegal immigrants, and they can’t afford to fix Social Security & Medicare. The US Government pays large corporations and farmers hundreds of millions every year to NOT GROW FOOD, yet they can’t afford to fix Social Security & Medicare. Our US Government gives out hundreds of billions every year in FOREIGN Aide every year, ye they can’t afford to fix Social Security & Medicare. The list goes on & on. We have had enough. It’s our to to strike back at this miserable cesspool of people in Washington called the US Government.

V.Brame – “next time american soldiers are captured by the enemey they will be grossly tortured, humiliated and tortured” – take a history class — although it is probably unconstituional to teach the truth of history – this has always been the case.

Builder, what do you mean the next time? Our guys are almost always tortured when captured, WWII, Korea, Vietman, take your pick. That is a history lesson!!!

Revamp.. v. relating to actions associated with speaker dot gov.’s plastic surgeon and botox purveyor
usage:
..’Princess’ was completey re-vamped during her previous term…

parallax view: “doctorial” leadership?
What, we are going to require our leaders to all have Doctorates now?

brian brian brian…. we are supposed to be better than those fellow torturer nations. We can not hold them accountable for torturing our people if we are doing the same. And we DO and HAVE held them accountable.
Torture is wrong and bush was wrong and Obama was supposed to be better according to the Obots, however he is just Dubya two, the black version.

drjohn
I don’t know if it will be proved conclusively, but there are storm clouds gathering over Cheney and Bush with regard to why certain people were ‘tortured’/EiT’d, who were not Al Queda, and had already given up information….
If the controversy about ‘EiT’ to force a link to an alleged 9/11-Iraq connection, is proven even partially, Republicans will never recover from that….
while there are certainly things to look into with the Dems as to who knew what, when,.. the Dems were not making policy..
all of this is terrible for America, and, it’s unfortunate that the 1 person who needs to be caught and brought to justice, Bin Laden, has not.

Honestly.. I don’t think that the rest of the world is on pins and needles .. looking to the arrogant U.S. to serve as an international role model.. but, who knows..