Some Voices Rise Against Sotomayor’s Nomination

Let the Gop Bashing hate fest Begin! Go ahead Republicans Bash the Hispanic Woman Say bye bye to Woman and Hispanics RIP GOP!

I think nixing Obama’s entire campaign and subsequent work as “mere rhetoric” is an awfully myopic thing to do based on one Supreme Court appointment. Limbaugh would be upset no matter who Obama stuck in the seat. It’s certainly a divisive move and has the GOP sweating, but what wouldn’t these days?

“The President could have nominated Solomon to the Supreme Court and voices would rise against him.”
Yup.
Obama could cure cancer tomorrow and Rush would railing that he is denying families chemotherapy and throwing cancer specialists out of work.

The President could have nominated Solomon to the Supreme Court and voices would rise against him.
Leviticus 19:15
Don’t be corrupt when administering justice. Never give special favor to poor people, and never show preference to important people. Judge your neighbor fairly.

Dems are flagrantly racist. Obama is the most racist of all and has nominated someone in his image. Even if you can get past Sotomeyers racist statements, she is on tape advocating setting policy/law from the bench.
We have 3 branches of government for a reason. We have a right to ELECT those who will make law. Sotomeyer is not elected and would be usurping her constitional authority and separation of powers.
Someone who is appointed for life to a court is not supposed to have the ‘SUPER-POWER’ of making law too, only in enforcing it. It is not a judges role to bypass and/or over-ride the legislative functions of congress.
I guess Obama and Sotomeyer feel their constituency are too dumb too know this. Based on blogs it looks like they are right.

Of course she is an “affirmative action” choice. So what? So was Clarence Thomas, yet Rush nor any of my conservative friends was critical of that at the time.
I’d suggest that someone call Judge Jose Cabreras of the 2nd Circuit and get his take. He’s the conservative on the court who has been passed over a few times. Word is that he is very supportive of her. If so, then these well-meaning but fringe conservative groups won’t be able to muster much opposition. Pretty hard, politically speaking, to oppose the first Hispanic nominated to the SCOTUS.

FACT: Under President Bush, the Democrats were part of approving 27 Hispanic justices (even more than under Clinton).
FACT: Miguel Estrada was opposed due to have literally no judicial experience at any level and refusing to provide any of his professional writings (as previous appointees had done).

It’s very sad to see all these libs putting down Repubs/Conservatives for merely speaking the truth – Time for libs to start doing a little reading as to how this Nation was built, and find that we are a Nation of Laws, NOT EMOTIONs – It does not matter that Sotomayor, or any candidate for Supreme Court Justice, had an interesting childhood/background – what does matter is that the person follows the Constitution which they are sworn to uphold – That means personal opinions and predispositions are put aside. It does not matter whether they have empathy for a person or a situation – If it is against the Constitution, it is not legal in the US -

“Dems are flagrantly racist. Obama is the most racist of all and has nominated someone in his image. Even if you can get past Sotomeyers racist statements, she is on tape advocating setting policy/law from the bench.”
Classic right wing!
Call minorities racist while ginning up the anger of the racists in the right wing base playing on their fears that minorities will be in charge.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 26, 2009 3:08:56 PM
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Yes, classic right wing, using the facts on tape instead of smears. I know why that upsets dems.
Obama sat in church for 20 years spewing racism so I don ‘t want to hear about his not being a racist.
His own auto-biography spews racism and rants about “white-mans” greed.
If any white person had said such a thing, insert another race into the sentence, he would not even be eligible for office.
I don’t want racists in charge. I don’t care if they are in the minority, and it is a nasty smear to claim otherwise, but typical dem mantra.
I want someone who will not take on the super-power of passing laws and judging them as well.
I want someone who is not so arrogant and self impressed that they usurp the constitution and the legislative function of congress and take it upon themselves to pass laws via the bench.
Sotomeyer brings her gender and race into the issue, not me and not republicans. Sotomeyer makes the claim these will affect her decisions.
She is the racist.

“I don’t want racists in charge.”
Then why did you support Limbaugh over Powell?

I dont want Racist In charge
Why did you support Cheney? or Continue Parroting Limbaughs talking points?

Angie,
You are clearly missing the point. Obama and Sotomayor’s race isn’t the issue, it’s their ideals. There are two parties for a reason. People are upset over the decision on Ricci v. DeStefano. Also, people have stated several times that they feel she passes judgement based on feelings rather than the law. So, no…it isn’t about her being Hispanic. Who cares if she’s Hispanic, Asian, etc? As long as she does her job well, race is not an issue. Nor is it an issue with Obama. It is simply people not agreeing with his policy. What’s wrong with that? Are we not allowed to have or voice opinions?

Angie in PA:”Now we get the First Hispanic woman On the Supreme court”
It’s only a few on the noisy fringes of the Republican party who really care about race. Most of the rage really is about her being – gasp – not right wing.
Remember that Bush put more Hispanics on the bench than Clinton, and only part of that was the Democrats being less obstructionist and having less power than the Republican revolution impeachment-mob Clinton had to deal with.

Slaves fleed to the north because they were offered freedom if they served in the military. The north had slaves as well. Why are we still bringing up something that happened nearly 150 years ago?

stdntDrvr:” People are upset over the decision on Ricci v. DeStefano. Also, people have stated several times that they feel she passes judgement based on feelings rather than the law.”
She has a long, documented record. If people cannot back up their ‘feelings’ about how she passes judgement, they don’t have much of an argument. Ricci v. DeStefano is an example of backing up your opinion. This ruling is available online for review and I encourage people to look it up and decide for yourself if the ruling not to apply Title VII to impose the court’s will on New Haven’s hiring practices was appropriate.

So No One ever in the Republican Party has Misspoke or Put their Foot in their mouth pleeeeeeeze!

Bush had a hand in nominating Sotomayor. Also, do you like baseball? You can thank Sotomayor for ending the MLB strike. Plus, she has way more experience on the bench than most. Limbaugh only opposes what isn’t extreme right. But there are also extreme leftys that would probably do the same thing if the tables were turned.

jhw,
I agree, people should review her record to determine if she should be a Justice of the Supreme Court. The whole notion that people are upset over this nomination because it is Obama’s choice is, well, a little off. Sure, there are those who will oppose everything he says or does…but for the most part, people will support his decisions if they make sense to them. Let’s face it, you can’t please all of the people all of the time. No matter what decision is made, someone will have hurt feelings. It’s life. Just because Republicans do not agree with *every* decision, does not mean that they will disagree with all of them.

MNM:”You do get the difference now ????”
The highest position in the Republican or Democratic party is a member of the US Congress – that is the top aspiration of any member and where the true party power lies. There are 44 black members of Congress right now. Every single one of them is a Democrat.
What a coincidence.

“There are 44 black members of Congress right now. Every single one of them is a Democrat.”
Rumor had it that the last black Republican Congressman was seeking the Gov of Oklahoma but he has since denied that.

Southern strivers found that their migration to the north didn’t result in freedom from discrimination.. racial discrimination was just supplanted with economic segregation.

MNM:”I grant you false claims of republican racism has won dem votes, even though they cannot cite specifics.”
Did you miss my post? “There are 44 black members of Congress right now. Every single one of them is a Democrat.”
How much more specific, comprehensible, and succinct can that be? That fact is simply not statistically possible by random selection.

“”I shook [Clinton's] hand, he left, comes back [with] the mayor of Los Angeles,” he told listeners. “I thought it was a Secret Service agent, maybe a shoeshine guy. Turns out he gives me his card, I said, ‘Oh, my gosh, it’s the mayor of Los Angeles.’”
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EXACTLY how is this comment “racist” ?
would you care to supply the entire context from which you pulled this?
Limbaugh uses a lot of humor in what he does, was this from a bit?…was it exaggeration to make a point?
Are you liberals ready to kill freedom of speech except for those comics and commentators who follow your political whims?
If your claiming this little quote makes him a racist, then I submit by YOUR OWN LOGIC that this appointeee is not fit based on her statements at Duke!
Now, is that really the correct way to make these kinds of judgements?

Ryan C:”I think MNM is referring to examples of Republican racism. ”
Ah. That’s more a beer hall argument about David Duke vs. Trent Lott vs. Thurmond vs. Byrd vs…
Republicans are not, on the whole, racist. But they did cater to racists through the decades of the well-documented Southern strategy and now do have a racist fringe which has made itself disproportionately powerful. Democrats have been more successful at keeping their nutter fringe outside the leadership apparatus. For example, Moveon is a truly separate entity that isn’t allowed to drive Democrats down an ideological purity deadend.

Mike_C:”Are you liberals ready to kill freedom of speech except for those comics and commentators who follow your political whims?”
Sotomayor isn’t. In Pappas v. Giuliani, she wrote the dissent saying that on First Amendment grounds a NYPD employee (not a beat officer) should NOT have been dismissed for legal, mostly anonymous speech done on his own off-duty time, even if that speech was racist and hateful speech.

“He assumed that Mayor Villaraigosa was a shoe shine boy and you just duck your head in the sand.”
LOL….He also mentions a secret service guy, is that a put down too…
By the way, I have Met shoe shine people in NYC from all ethnic backgrounds, I make NO SUCH assumptions!
Is there something wrong with beginning this discussion with her RECORD and her BELIEFS, INSTEAD of her gender & race?

“He also mentions a secret service guy, is that a put down too…”
Rush could have left it there but being a racist he could not help himself.
“By the way, I have Met shoe shine people in NYC from all ethnic backgrounds, I make NO SUCH assumptions!”
Were they being introduced by the President of the United States when you met them?

“Their real bosses are the liberal interest groups that more or less tell the Senators when to sit, speak and roll over–and which Bush judges to confirm or not. Here are some excerpts:”
Wow, talk about an unimpeachable source. I’m fully convinced now. The opposition to Estrada had nothing to do with his complete lack of experience, suspected far right positions, and refusal to provide professional writings for review. It was all because Democrats are racist against Hispanics.

I wanted to add the groups planning to meet with durbin:
November 6, 2001/To: Senator Durbin
“You are scheduled to meet with leaders of several civil rights organizations to discuss their serious concerns with the judicial nomination process. The leaders will likely include: Ralph Neas (People For the American Way), Kate Michelman (NARAL), Nan Aron (Alliance for Justice), Wade Henderson (Leadership Conference on Civil Rights), Leslie Proll (NAACP Legal Defense & Education Fund), Nancy Zirkin (American Association of University Women), Marcia Greenberger (National Women’s Law Center), and Judy Lichtman (National Partnership). . . .
They also identified Miguel Estrada (D.C. Circuit) as especially dangerous, because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They want to hold Estrada off as long as possible.”
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If similar memo’s had ended up on a republican desk he would have been drummed out of the senate AND the entire party stained with racism.
Dem borked Estrada to keep the mantle of supporting minorities firmly in place and continue the false meme of racist republicans.
It is disgusting that this goes on unabated and unreported.
Dems are flagrantly racist but scream the opposite so loudly with the support of the media that they get away with it.

The only “Hack” is Rush. Making billions on the ignorants.

“You STILL have not provide the context of that “quote”?”
Am I misquoting Rush?
Was he just being humorous when he called the 1st Latino Mayor of LA in over 100 years a shoe shine boy?
“I can pull a couple of lines that ANYONE has said….and then say see…they are a racist! Just because in your one way mirror view of the world Limbaugh is a racist, it doesnt mean he is!”
You really think that’s the only time Rush has said something racist?
There are dozens of examples.
Maybe I just don’t understand arguing that Rush is not racist, its like arguing water is not wet.

Was he just being humorous when he called the 1st Latino Mayor of LA in over 100 years a shoe shine boy?
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FLAT OUT LIE, NEVER HAPPENED

The squirming has commenced!
Posted by: Ryan C | May 26, 2009 4:59:01 PM
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I agree, you should squirm over the Durbin racist memo’s and Sotomayors racist statements. Keep squirming.

“I agree, you should squirm over the Durbin racist memo’s and Sotomayors racist statements.”
Durbin’s memo weren’t racist and neither are Sotomayor’s quotes.
Of course you and Mike C are good little parrots for Rush.

FLAT OUT LIE, NEVER HAPPENED
Posted by: MNM | May 26, 2009 4:55:10 PM
The LA Times has this “FLAT OUT LIE” for you in a story dated May 7, 2008 titled ‘ Villaraigosa gives Limbaugh the brush-off on “Shoeshine guy” insult’

indy_voter: Cheney didn’t say anything about following anybody. He was asked who he’d rather have in his party, and he picked the guy that vote for his party’s candidate in the last election. Is that really shocking?
That’s like asking Al Gore who is a better Dem, Joe Biden or Joe Lieberman. One of them left their party, so he’s not likely to pick them.

MNM:”If similar memo’s had ended up on a republican desk he would have been drummed out of the senate AND the entire party stained with racism.”
The ever popular Republican cry of being oppressed by the big ‘ol mass media. Someday I hope the party of rich white guys (just like the ones who own all the mass media) can get a fair shake in your fantasy world.

If you don’t think the GOP is racist, just look up what happened with the Miguel Estrada nomination.

“The ever popular Republican cry of being oppressed by the big ‘ol mass media. Someday I hope the party of rich white guys (just like the ones who own all the mass media) can get a fair shake in your fantasy world.”
I almost peed my pants.

Why not chosing the new judge on her merits, accomplishments, honesty, integrity. Why does the president has to plea for a person with compassion ?, understanding? how about her plea of being a latina How just interpret the law, which she alrady said she has no intention of doing! This should be another clear clue to most people out there to wake up to the truth that Obama is a well groomed empty suit that can read beautifully utophians statements from a script.

“Obama brushed off Biden’s “clean, articulate” comments, didn’t he”
Biden got blasted for that.
But apparently Rush cannot be criticized as his followers have a thinner skin than even he does.
Cannot insult Rush because insults would bring about doubt and the dittohead’s little world revolves around Rush being right.

I read some stuff about her, she seems ok, like the libs don’t like her very much.. no one on the left is cheering a lot.. you can tell when the left has a winner, they can’t contain themselves..
Curious to see how far she slides to the center.. this is going to be a good confirmation hearing.. and probably only a mock-partisan battle.

In 2001, Sotomayor told an audience at U of C – Berkeley, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
When a person flat out says that WHITE MEN are less qualified for certain jobs than Latina women, that is RACIST and SEXIST.
Obama calls that “empathy.”

Ryan C:”So since Scalia you’ve been screaming about the 3 month average time between nomination and confirmation?”
The nomination time was less than that for Roberts and Alito – barely two months for Roberts.

Not So Supreme:” “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”
When a person flat out says that WHITE MEN are less qualified for certain jobs than Latina women, that is RACIST and SEXIST. ”
That has to be one of the saddest displays of reading comprehension I’ve seen for a while. Do you seriously claim that Sotomayor’s statement above was stating that white men are unqualified to be judges? That is a pathetic grasp of context and the English language that actually gives me sympathy for right wingers who want to require English be the official nation language.
Of COURSE she would hope that, more often than not, she personally would reach a better conclusion than anyone else. DUH. It was a clearly personalized statement, not a blanket proclamation of any sort. This is English 101 folks (actually, it’s below college courses – around 7th grade level).

jwh, your insults are just as phony as your explanations. You’ve studied Alinsky well. Attack the person. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
There was no reason to single out whites or men in Sotomayor’s statement. If she wants to say she feels she, based on her unique history, would make an outstanding judge then she could have said that. Instead she took aim at a specific group based on their color and their sex.
She spoke in generalities and her remark was both racist and sexist.
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a black woman who hasn’t lived that life.” See? Change the color and sex and it is still a stunningly racist statement, though no longer sexist.

“I have never read Alinsky, but honestly believe all the right wingers whining about this line are making a joke of themselves.”
They are.
The so called “tactics” of Alinsky have been part and parcel of bareknuckle politics since this country was formed.
JHW take a look at the listing of Alinsky tactics sometime and laugh at how many of them are an integral part of how the right wing media operates.

Sotomayor’s comments about a Latinas life history making them more qualified than a white males life history in rendering decisions – that sounds racist and sexist.
A racist and a sexist on SCOTUS?
If so, way to go Obama.
Posted by: Ray | May 26, 2009 11:52:19 PM
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Perhaps you should actually read the text of her comments versus right winger talking points and you’ll know she’s talking about life experience and there is nothing sexist or racist about it.

Why is she so hateful towards whites?
Can anyone with such hate for a group of people be fair and a good pick?
Come on Obama! You can do better than her!

I swear conservatives do not think before uttering some of the contrived nonsense that comes out of their mouths. To call Santamayor racist based on comments that have been published in the media is absurd. That is why they resort to namecalling almost immediately such as calling her a “hack”.

So try this on for size.
“I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina female who hasn’t lived that life,”

OOps. s/b “economists”

I don’t understand what is the big deal about Sotomayor story being so ‘compelling’ according to the president. That tells you right there, again, what he talks is full of fluff and generalities; and how what ever he says -no matter what – for many people out there -most be right and important – . There are many stories like Sotomayor outbringing anywhere you go. Why does this particularly has to earn her the post? The Rep party ought to named good Hispanic choice regardless of whether they’ll be heard.

help me out, indy_voter:
What bearing does any of this crap have on her ability to read the law and reason? On the evidence, not much.
And if convincing personal story is so great – why not have a sob story contest – the best story gets on the supreme court.

Norman Thomas ( whom run six times for president of the Socialist party from 1928 to 1938 ) wrote this quote
“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”
S Sotomayor quote Mr Thomas on her year book, stating her her philosophy : ” I am not a champion of lost causes, but causes not yet won “

Many of the liberal quotes in Rush are phony. This one is their favorite:
You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray [the confessed assassin of Martin Luther King]. We miss you, James. Godspeed.