Today’s Qs for O’s WH – 5/12/2009
TAPPER: Two questions, Robert. Thank you for calling on me. Vice President Cheney is continuing his media campaign talking about how he feels that the Obama administration’s policies make the country less safe. I’m wondering if you could specifically address the substance of what he’s saying in terms of changing the interrogation policies and changing the storage of detainees at Guantanamo. I understand that you feel that this was bad public relations and inflamed people against the United States, but in addition to that, how do you know that Vice President Cheney is wrong?
GIBBS: Well, I think there was — without putting words in everyone’s mouth, I think there’s been some agreement across party lines that Guantanamo Bay has not made us a safer country. I’ve seen remarks in the past few days — I haven’t — I read part of what Vice President Cheney said this weekend. I haven’t seen updated comments. I don’t know if that’s what you’re referring to.
You know, the president has taken action along needed to address our fundamental threat throughout the globe, and that is in Afghanistan and Pakistan to put a renewed focus on the exact location of where extremists have targeted this country. They targeted it in 2001 in operations there, and we have no reason to believe or no intelligence to suggest that that planning doesn’t continue in both of those countries.
That’s why the president, throughout the campaign, discussed the importance of focusing on those two countries. And that’s why you’ve seen his actions in moving more of our precious resources and troops to Afghanistan to address Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and its extremist allies. I think that’s the best way to keep this country safe is to — is to go at the terrorist threat, something that the previous administration didn’t do.
TAPPER: OK. The second question on a completely different topic.
GIBBS: Uh-huh.
TAPPER: The president opposed same-sex marriage, but he supports giving same-sex couples the same rights as married couples.
GIBBS: And benefits.
TAPPER: And benefits — same rights and benefits. What’s your response to critics of this policy who say this is exactly separate but equal?
GIBBS: Well, I would point you to any number of times that he was asked this during the campaign and addressed it.
TAPPER: I don’t think he was ever asked is this separate but equal.
GIBBS: No. In fact, it was asked on multiple occasions, and I can pull you something on that. It’s the president’s belief — he strongly supports civil unions and supports ensuring that they have access to the rights and benefits such as hospital visitation and things like that that are enjoyed by others.
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Note: the White House quickly provided this example from an August 9, 2007 forum sponsored by the Human Rights Campaign where then-Sen. Obama was asked about his position on same sex marriage being essentially "separate but equal."
JOE SOLMONESE: Can you see to our community where it, that comes across as sounding like "separate but equal"?
SEN. OBAMA: Well, look, you know, when my parents got married in 1960, ’61, you know, it would have been illegal for them to be married in a number of states in the South. So obviously, this is something that I understand intimately, it’s something that I care about. But I would also say this, that if I were advising the civil rights movement back in 1961 about its approach to civil rights, I would have probably said it’s less important that we focus on an anti- miscegenation law than we focus on a voting rights law and a non- discrimination and employment law and all the legal rights that are conferred by the state.Now, it’s not for me to suggest that you shouldn’t be troubled by these issues. I understand that and I’m sympathetic to it. But my job as president is going to be to make sure that the legal rights that have consequences on a day to day basis for loving same sex couples all across the country, that those rights are recognized and enforced by my White House and by my Justice Department.
- jpt
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Thanks you, Mrs Pelosi for correctly support EIT tactics and keeping us safe!
And God Bless VP Cheney!
Posted by: Chris | May 12, 2009, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm
“And God Bless VP Cheney!”
I think its the other guy that “blesses” Cheney.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 12, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
“I think its the other guy that “blesses” Cheney.”
He helped keep ALL of us safe for 8 years! Like it or not…he was right all along.
Posted by: Chris | May 12, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
This doesn’t do it for me. My mom who is very against gay marriage opposes civil unions for gays precisely because she believes its a backdoor separate but equal policy. Conversely I am underwhelmed by civil unions as a gay man because it is a half-hearted policy just like separate but equal citizenship was.
Secondly building up a straw man that gays have ignored workplace civil rights issues while harping on gay marriage is absurd.
Posted by: Ian | May 12, 2009, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm
Well, I think there was — without putting words in everyone’s mouth, I think there’s been some agreement across party lines that Guantanamo Bay has not made us a safer country.
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The fact that even the Democrats won’t give President Obama money to close it until he comes up with a plan for what to do with the prisoners indicates the falseness of Gibb’s statement.
Posted by: MayBee | May 12, 2009, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm
Thanks you, Mrs Pelosi for correctly support EIT tactics and keeping us safe!
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I agree completely, Chris. She made the right call and deserves credit for her choice.
Posted by: mad | May 12, 2009, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm
Absolutely we are safer with no torture. John McCain stated that he was told by Al Qaeda that torture by the US was a great recruiting tool for them, that thousands died, including US soldiers, because they were able to recruit more to join Al Qaeda in Iraq.
Posted by: Victoria | May 12, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Tapper should quit changing topics on Gibbs so abruptly, remember Gibbs has to – not only dance backwards – but on high heels.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 12, 2009, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
“He helped keep ALL of us safe for 8 years!”
Actually Cheney made us a great deal less safe beginning with his focus on Iraq.
And of course he shot a friend of his in the face.
“Like it or not…he was right all along.”
Cheney was hated but respected before he became VP, now he’s just hated.
Posted by: Ryan C | May 12, 2009, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Chris:”"I think its the other guy that “blesses” Cheney.”
He helped keep ALL of us safe for 8 years! Like it or not…he was right all along.”
8 years? 9/11/*2001* – that seems to be less than 8 years ago…
Posted by: jhw539 | May 12, 2009, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Gibbs never answered the first question – he merely implied that the existence of ‘some’ bipartisan agreement that Gitmo makes us less safe amounts to evidence that Cheney is wrong.
Lame…
Posted by: Dan Cleary | May 12, 2009, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
The fact that even the Democrats won’t give President Obama money to close it until he comes up with a plan for what to do with the prisoners indicates the falseness of Gibb’s statement.
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Exactly!
Posted by: Ms Trish | May 12, 2009, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Cheney he can say what he wants, at least he has the stones to say it here, in front of cameras, instead of running off to the middle east, giving a paid speech and telling the Muslims that Bush has made us dislike them.
Posted by: david | May 12, 2009, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
“8 years? 9/11/*2001* – that seems to be less than 8 years ago…”
Most people think of it as 8 years although it is less. But what is your point – that somehow Bush was delinquent in taking actions to protect the nation? Sounds like you would have been happy if another tragedy like 911 had occurred on Bush’s watch.
Posted by: Sigmonde | May 12, 2009, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Dan Cleary, and the rest of the representatives of the willfully dense:
What Gibbs said was that the purpose of torture under the Bush administration was to attempt to justify the war of agression against Iraq, and that the Obama administration would rather concentrate on fighting terrorism.
Posted by: Flash Override | May 12, 2009, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm
“What Gibbs said was that the purpose of torture under the Bush administration was to attempt to justify the war of agression against Iraq,”
That’s ridiculous.
Posted by: Sigmonde | May 12, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm