White House Pushes Back Against Protests of Pending Presidential Honorary Degree From Notre Dame
The White House today aggressively pushed back against the notion that the opposition of one Notre Dame University group to President Obama receiving an honorary degree at their commencement ceremony this Sunday is representative of widespread feelings on campus on among Catholics in general.
"I think there’s one group organizing a boycott," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said, "and, as best I can understand it, there are 23 groups that have formed in support of the president’s invitation."
The group organizing the boycott, ND Response, will on Saturday will be holding a candle-light vigil to protest the loss of innocent life, and on Sunday they will be staging a meditation ceremony and a rally to pray for graduates. Part of all three events, an organizer said, is a protest of Notre Dame honoring "a political figure who supports abortion and stem cell research."
The group is a coalition of 11 anti-abortion groups ranging from the Notre Dame Right to Life organization to the Notre Dame College Republicans to the Notre Dame Law St. Thomas More Society.
"Our objection is not a matter of political partisanship, but of President Obama’s hostility to the Catholic Church’s teachings on the sanctity of human life at its earliest stages," the group wrote in a letter. "Further, the University’s decision runs counter to the policy of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops against honoring pro-choice politicians. We cannot sit by idly while the University honors someone who believes that an entire class of human beings is undeserving of the most basic of all legal rights, the right to live."
The group has been protesting President Obama’s pending honorary degree since March, when President Obama’s commencement speech schedule was announced.
The "23 groups" Gibbs mentioned was a reference to a letter written to University president The Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C. from groups ranging from the African Student Association to the College Democrats to the Notre Dame Peace Fellowship to the Spanish Club criticizing "those who would rather divide than work together for common ground and for the common good. We are concerned that in narrowing the focus to one aspect of life that has often proven polarizing and divisive many have lost the ability to recognize the other aspects of President Obama’s work that continues to uphold the principles of justice and solidarity."
Gibbs also noted that E. Brennan Bollman, the school’s valedictorian, is supportive of the invitation. He noted that "public polling done by Pew shows a majority of Catholics are in support of the invitation to speak at the commencement" (50% in favor, 28% opposed).
Gibbs added that "I think I saw a figure that 97 percent of the students are supportive."
Gibbs got that one wrong — that’s a reference to an Associated Press story reporting that of the 95 Notre Dame seniors who wrote letters to the student newspaper The Observer, 97 percent supported the president’s invitation. More than 2,900 students will receive degrees on Sunday. of which 2,001 are undergraduate seniors.
Gibbs said "the president understands the right of anybody in this country to disagree and to exercise their disagreement in that way. I think it’s important to understand it appears as if the vast majority of students and the majority of Catholics are supportive of the invitation the president accepted. And I know he’s greatly looking forward to seeing them."
President Obama received 54% of the Catholic vote last November, with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., receiving 45%. Twenty-seven percent of voters identified themselves as Catholic.
In Notre Dame’s home county, St. Joseph County, Indiana, President Obama beat McCain, 68,710 votes to McCain’s 48,510.
Mr. Obama will be the ninth U.S. president to receive an honorary degree from Notre Dame and the sixth sitting president to address graduates.
- jpt
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I hope all the pro-lifers who can get there go an protest and show Obama that he is completely out of touch with how strongly Catholics feel about his appearance at Notre Dame.
Posted by: ctmom | May 12, 2009, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm
Maybe when the students start to withdraw from Notre Dame they will get the message. I do not know how a Catholic could still support a university like this.
Posted by: jas | May 12, 2009, 5:44 pm 5:44 pm
Regardless of the spin that the White House put on it. Good Catholics, that understand their religion and wish to follow it’s teaching, know that President O. is working for baby killers. What more can be said? Everything else is nothing more than political hog wash. I’m surprised this is even an issue. Who invited him anyway? Couldn’t have been a “Practicing Catholic”.
Posted by: Willie12345 | May 12, 2009, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
I live in the Notre Dame area and the majority of people here and at the University are disgusted with the carpetbaggers desperate for attention coming in and RUINING these hard working kids graduation. No, there is no local or university support for the protests, it’s all the Randall Terry and Alan Keyes crazies that were trucked in to get attention and try to raise money from their frenzied lies. We. Do. NOT. Want. Them. Here.
Posted by: Celtic | May 12, 2009, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm
No mention that the last sitting president to receive an honorary degree from Notre Dame was responsible for a large number of state executions — officially disapproved by the Vatican — and later started a war that was denounced by the Pope?
‘Cause something like that would seem relevant.
Maybe you should ask William Donohue or Alan Keyes about that? I think it’d be interesting to hear what they’d have to say about that…
Posted by: Scott | May 12, 2009, 6:18 pm 6:18 pm
Notre Dame is no longer a Roman Catholic institution. It’s a disgraceful secular university raking in huge dollars from nostalgic Catholics. Obama has NO respect for the sanctity of innocent human life. He jokes about his stem cell decision at the WHCD. Catholics in Name Only voted for him
Posted by: Woody Pfister | May 12, 2009, 6:32 pm 6:32 pm
I believe that Notre Dame Officials are hippocrits as is the Vatican. This is a school affiliated with a religion and church that has hidden or moved preists accused for years of abusing children to save face and have a Pope that says condoms are a sin. Not to mention a the fact that they are now boycotting Hollywood because of the Movies “The DaVinci Code” and “Angels and Demons”. As I understand it President Obama is being honored for his Leadership not his beliefs. Why doesn’t the Catholic Church step into the 21st Century and out of the 1st Century, maybe more people would be inclined to join the religion.
Posted by: Terry | May 12, 2009, 6:33 pm 6:33 pm
This is a disturbing shift towards treason by conservatives. Our president deserves respect.
Posted by: Matt | May 12, 2009, 6:52 pm 6:52 pm
“Our objection is not a matter of political partisanship, but of President Obama’s hostility to the Catholic Church’s teachings …”
Why should [President of the United States] Obama bend to the Church’s rules, whims, and wants that he should even shape laws to the Church’s liking (for All the people of the US)? Why not just elect the Pope if America is to be governed by the Church?
Posted by: Giftedroot | May 12, 2009, 6:59 pm 6:59 pm
“This is a disturbing shift towards treason by conservatives. Our president deserves respect.”
The President should respect the protesters as well. And conservative speakers on college campuses deserve respect from liberals like you who no doubt take joy in preventing free speech that does not agree with you.
Posted by: Sigmonde | May 12, 2009, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm
Give him some peanuts from George Washington U. instead.
Posted by: blitherer | May 12, 2009, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm
I am going to the graduation,the student body is thrilled and most of the complaining has come from outside groups.
Posted by: richard in chandler az | May 12, 2009, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm
Jake Tapper: “The White House today aggressively pushed back”
I’ve read the story three times now, looking for the tidbit that would indicate that the push back was “aggressive”.
I couldn’t find it. Can you clarify why a detailed response constitutes any aggression. I do see hostility from the anti-choice group, I don’t see any in the WH-response though.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | May 12, 2009, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Can the Notre Dame group also protest the child-molesters they tend to look past?
Posted by: Larry | May 12, 2009, 8:17 pm 8:17 pm
inviting Obama to speak at commencement and honoring him with an honorary degree is the equivalent of flying a 747 across the Manhattan skyline without telling anyone: totally clueless and ‘out of touch’
Posted by: travis | May 12, 2009, 8:21 pm 8:21 pm
And conservative speakers on college campuses deserve respect from liberals like you who no doubt take joy in preventing free speech that does not agree with you.
Posted by: Sigmonde
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We know how conservatives honor free speech: during Bush’s town hall meetings on Social Security, Republican officials made sure only Bush-supporters were allowed into the “town hall”. Had a bumpersticker on your car or a t-shirt that showed disapproval of the war in Iraq, you were banned.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | May 12, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
I thought the pilgrims came to America on the Mayflower to escape the oppression of the Catholic Church and to practice religious freedom. Most Americans including the President understand that in a democracy, differing opinions are inevitable. RESPECT is the key. President Obama has stated that he is saddened by the number of unwanted pregnancies in our nation and has expressed the need to try and increase support systems so more women feel they can handle sustaining a life after it is born. I have heard many comments about “Real Catholic’s” verses Catholics who do not support the fanatical Christian fringe. You guys sound just like the Taliban in the Middle East. What gives you the right to think you can police a women’s body? YOU CANNOT and thank GOD you can’t!
Posted by: V. Brame | May 12, 2009, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
this is not just about Randall Terry and Alan Keyes crazies but about the over 300,000 people that have signed petitions
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Those “300,000″ signatories are the “Randall Terry and Alan Keyes crazies”. The same people who wanted to storm the hospice that cared for Terri Schiavo and who wanted to let her drink (which could have killed her instantaneously).
Let’s hope law enforcement has enough tasers at the ready next Sunday, just to be safe.
Posted by: Willem van Oranje | May 12, 2009, 8:31 pm 8:31 pm
I would be outraged by the Obama invite if I were a Catholic student attending Notre Dame. If I were an atheist attending ND I probably wouldn’t care.
Posted by: Jeff | May 12, 2009, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
Those protesting President Obama are simply disgruntled McCain supporters. I have no doubt that these “conservative Catholics” would have approved of a President McCain speaking at Notre Dame. A man who cheated on, then divorced his crippled first wife to marry his beer heiress mistress.
Posted by: A.Lincoln | May 12, 2009, 8:58 pm 8:58 pm
It wasn’t so long ago, when people didn’t think we could ever have a Catholic POTUS.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 12, 2009, 9:06 pm 9:06 pm
Obama once again demonstrates no class.
Posted by: Rasputin3.14 | May 12, 2009, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
I think Obama should stand down. He should respect the inherent Catholic belief system, even if only one graduating senior feels Obama is ruining graduation day. I’m proud that we have young people in America who are still willing to stand up for their beliefs, like Miss California. We better all get a little more outspoken or all the freedoms we’ve enjoyed for generations will be taken away by the Liberal Left.
Posted by: Sami | May 12, 2009, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm
Obama has no shame. He’s really disgusting.
Posted by: JRD | May 12, 2009, 9:22 pm 9:22 pm
Obama should step down and not go. He
is getting to be a joke.
Wrong place – wrong time!
Posted by: JR Rogers | May 12, 2009, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm
Those of us who care about the well-being of the very young, especially if we are Catholic, should ask ourselves whether this protest against the Obama invitation is actually helping the unborn. It seems to me that there are some Pro-Lifers who have narrowed their focus so tightly that they have essentially become blind to the best opportunities for building a ‘Culture of Life’.
Do we, in this society, need to show greater respect for pre-natal life? Absolutely! Does the best way to generate this respect require an all-out effort to criminalize abortion? Maybe yes, maybe no. Can we change laws before we’ve changed attitudes? I’m doubtful.
President Obama is open to Pro-Lifers who want to work to reduce abortion. He’s willing to listen to those of us who have ideas for promoting more responsibility for sexual behavior and for reducing the incidence of unintended pregnancy. He’s also shown a willingness to support compassionate ideas for making it easier for mothers to choose life.
We can look for common ground, or we can announce to the leader of the free world, “It’s our way or the highway!” Which strategy is going to save more lives?
Paul Bradford, Pro-Life Catholics for Choice
Posted by: Paul Bradford | May 12, 2009, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm
This isn’t about Obama’s views, it’s about the Catholic Church’s views. He shouldn’t have been asked but now that he has been, they should let him speak but not give him the honarary degree.
Posted by: Rican | May 12, 2009, 10:35 pm 10:35 pm
He’s been invited, he accepted, he should go. I don’t like it when commencements are politicized and no school is going to find a speaker with whom everyone agrees. Actually, it’s a great time for students to celebrate themselves and learn at the same time it is no longer all about them.
No American politician should be unacceptable as a commencement speaker at a US university.
Posted by: MayBee | May 12, 2009, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
Giving Terri Schiavo would have “killed her instantly,” your story proclaims. That is a lie. Who in God’s name are you people, not journalists; perceptual manipulation, deceit, and fraud is your game. No honorary degree for the citizen impostor in Constitutionally corrupt occupancy at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Posted by: John Sipos | May 12, 2009, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm
If its about the Catholic Churches views then why did they have no problem with the war monger GW Bush coming to Notre Dame, The divorcee Ronald Reagan coming there, The adulterer Bill Clinton coming there, etc. This is about President Barack Obama period and the Catholic Church trying to regain the authority they lost due to the molestation scandal. It is laughable that these priest and bishops would be so hypocritical. This whole thing is phony on the part of the “religious leaders”. I thank God I only need the forgiveness of God and to accept Jesus to get into heaven and not man’s approval or the belief of man what is God’s approval to get in.
Posted by: gail | May 12, 2009, 11:09 pm 11:09 pm
Wow. Did you proof-read this article? Two typos in just the first three paragraphs. That’s when I stop reading. Come on abc. You’re a real news organization.
Posted by: al | May 12, 2009, 11:33 pm 11:33 pm
The president’s speaking at graduation is supported by many Catholics both at Notre Dame and elsewhere. The opponents are by all measurement a minority but certainly not a silent one. I predict he will give a great speech which will be well received by most of the crowd.
Posted by: bhciapol | May 12, 2009, 11:44 pm 11:44 pm
Great job, once again, ABC, acting as the primary public relations arm of the Obama Administration!
Posted by: Thank God for Karma | May 12, 2009, 11:49 pm 11:49 pm
Come on, people, we should know better by now than to expect anything other than this. Some people are just so caught up in their own little world that they cannot empathize with others. There’s a word for it: stupid.
Posted by: tanarg | May 13, 2009, 12:10 am 12:10 am
It’s too bad that Notre Dame bowed to the pressure of the White House. Since Obama
fully backs the destruction of fetuses in the womb, there should be no “honorary degree”. Mass protests should be called.
To earn the scorn of Obama, Notre Dame should have a statue or a mural of Jesus in the background where he accepts the award. Watch and see if he shows up.
Posted by: Mihann | May 13, 2009, 12:20 am 12:20 am
“I predict he will give a great speech which will be well received by most of the crowd”
with a chorus of “BOOs” and mass protests.
Posted by: Mihann | May 13, 2009, 12:23 am 12:23 am
Remember the inquisition?-thanks to the catholics. Remember that they (the catholics) imprisoned galileo–one of the first real scientists. Remember they–brainwashed the indians in Mexico to destroy their culture in order to destroy their religion and control them and be part of them. And remember that they said the sun revolves around the earth not the other way around. Remember that they took parts of the bible out in order to fit their needs.
Posted by: martin | May 13, 2009, 1:29 am 1:29 am
For the first time in our Nation’s history, the American public has elected a President who is not just a fetus killer, but a live baby killer as well. Obama is the infanticide president.
Posted by: Talitha | May 13, 2009, 6:30 am 6:30 am
Obama defended the indefensible.
Life begins at conception, but even NARAL will at least give the answer as “at birth”. Not so with Obama.
Obama doesn’t even know when human *rights* begin, much less human *life*. Any fool should know the answer to when human *rights* begin is -at minimum- birth. Obama said the question, however, is above his pay grade.
Posted by: Common Sense | May 13, 2009, 6:36 am 6:36 am
This guy sides with tactics used on terrorists to gain information from them, yet doesn’t care one iota about the rights of the unborn.
Posted by: Steve | May 13, 2009, 8:10 am 8:10 am
Got to give credit where credit is due-bring out the tea parties and right to lifers to discredit the Democratic President. Reminds me of a cartoon of a Pentagon General that had just received an updated body count from Iraq who shook his head and said, It is a good thing that President Bush is pro-life!
Posted by: Dave of Detroit | May 13, 2009, 8:43 am 8:43 am
I am also offended that Obama will speak at Notre Dame. I think it’s unconscionable that our President will speak at an institution beholden to a fabricated creed stranded in anti-rationality. Notre Dame, please withdraw your invitation and save the President from this shame.
Posted by: DKNY | May 13, 2009, 8:46 am 8:46 am
I am so sick of Catholics trying to push their arrogant, false religion on the rest of the country. Yet, none of them are speaking up for healthcare. Their political agenda is sickening and they should be ASHAMED of themselves.
Posted by: Tia | May 13, 2009, 8:54 am 8:54 am
Maybe Rev. Wright would intervene on the President’s behalf.. maybe extend an olive branch to the flock.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | May 13, 2009, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Anymore than you can be Muslim and be Pro-Choice and Pro-Gay Rights (although I don’t see the vicious attacks on the Muslims for this as you see on Catholics).
Posted by: You can't be Catholic AND Pro-Choice | May 13, 2009, 9:23 am 9:23 am
I hope President Obama is a huge success Sunday at Notre Dame.
It’s about time we got a REAL President with brains, vision and concern for ALL Americans, not just the right wing fanatics.
Go Obama!
Posted by: Maureen | May 13, 2009, 9:38 am 9:38 am
This group didn’t protest the Iraq war where thousands of innocents died.
Posted by: Robert Bauer | May 13, 2009, 9:41 am 9:41 am
All these protesters are ruining it for the students who are graduating. You’d think they were giving an honorary degree to Dawkins rather than a Christian POTUS who’s trying to take care of the environment, healthcare, economy for us who are already born.
Posted by: Firecracker007 | May 13, 2009, 10:08 am 10:08 am
“You can’t be Catholic AND Pro-Choice”
I know a lot of Catholics that use birth control when they’re not supposed to. Does the church always define it’s members or do it’s members sometimes define the church?
Posted by: Skip | May 13, 2009, 10:10 am 10:10 am
Again, what is offensive is the President’s speaking at an institution whose foundation is based on anti-rationality.
Posted by: DKNY | May 13, 2009, 10:22 am 10:22 am
I’m a bit surprised Jake did not mention (but could be in one of the links within the story) that Mary Ann Glendon rescinded her acceptance of an invitation to accept the ND’s Laetare Medal and to speak at the commencement on May 17:
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“Mary Ann Glendon, a pro-life Harvard professor and former U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, released a letter today to the president of the University of Notre Dame, explaining that she will not accept the school’s prestigious Laetare Medal or speak at the commencement on May 17, where President Barack Obama is also scheduled to speak and receive an honorary degree.
Glendon, in her Apr. 27 letter to Notre Dame President Rev. John Jenkins, said the decision to honor Obama with an honorary degree “was in disregard” to what the U.S. Catholic bishops have specifically taught about Catholic institutions.
To award Obama an honorary degree, Glendon wrote to Jenkins, “as you must know, was in disregard of the U.S. bishops’ express request of 2004 that Catholic institutions ‘should not honor those who act in defiance of our fundamental moral principles’ and that such persons ‘should not be given awards, honors or platforms which would suggest support for their actions.’ That request, which in no way seeks to control or interfere with an institution’s freedom to invite and engage in serious debate with whomever it wishes, seems to me so reasonable that I am at a loss to understand why a Catholic university should disrespect it.”
Glendon further said that “talking points” released by Notre Dame officials to help dampen criticism over Obama giving the commencement speech “included statements implying that my acceptance speech would somehow balance the event.”
“A commencement, however, is supposed to be a joyous day for the graduates and their families,” wrote Glendon. “It is not the right place, nor is a brief acceptance speech the right vehicle, for engagement with the very serious problems raised by Notre Dame’s decision—in disregard of the settled position of the U.S. bishops—to honor a prominent and uncompromising opponent of the Church’s position on issues involving fundamental principles of justice.”
“It is with great sadness, therefore, that I have concluded that I cannot accept the Laetare Medal or participate in the May 17 graduation ceremony,” wrote Glendon, who is the Learned Hand Professor of Law at Harvard Law School.
The Latare Award was established in 1883 and is given to honor a Catholic “whose genius has enobled the arts and sciences, illustrated the ideals of the church and enriched the heritage of humanity,” according to Notre Dame’s Web site.
When it was announced earlier this year that Glendon would receive the award, Notre Dame President Jenkins said that Glendon is “a compelling expositor of Catholic social teaching who exemplifies our University’s most cherished values and deserves its highest praise.”
Posted by: tjp612 | May 13, 2009, 10:50 am 10:50 am
I’ll probably get in trouble for this, but here goes…
I find it somewhat confusing and ironic that someone who would seem to be a prime candidate to be on the receiving end of an abortion (had abortion been legal in the early 1960s) is so demonstrably pro-choice (putting it lightly). Think about the situation: Unwed and liberal-minded teenager who has aspirations of traveling the world becomes pregnant with a man from another race and country who has aspirations of his own (and also a wife back in Africa) and who will be leaving home within 2 years to pursue additional educational opportunities 6,000 miles away. I am not judging the woman whatsoever and know nothing of her values and morals, but analysis of the situation in a vacuum would indicate a certain sense of irony… Fortunately he had loving grandparents to nurture, raise, and provide for him.
Posted by: tjp612 | May 13, 2009, 11:08 am 11:08 am
First, about the beginning of life, if a fertilized egg does not implant in the uterus wall there is not going to be a life. Second, perhaps dozens of fertilized eggs are lost during a woman’s period every month. Third, are those of you who do not give one good d___ for the lives of thousands of Iraqi children in a false war good Catholics? What have you done lately to help the living children of the world who suffer from war, famine, cruelty, molestation by Catholic Priests, etc., etc. If you don’t do this, then your movement is disingenuous and it will soon disintegrate. Do you really believe that your God wants you to call the President of YOUR country “a baby killer”? Then, what do you call the last president responsible for the Iraq war? President Obama is trying to help the millions of children who do not have healthcare. Is that worth anything to you? I forgot, you are not people inclined to reason.
Posted by: gma2 | May 13, 2009, 11:22 am 11:22 am
I feel that the Catholic Church’s position on birth control negates any right they have to oppose abortion with any validity. Didn’t I hear President Obama say that he did not like abortion either but felt that the way to get rid of it was to eliminate unwanted pregnancies?
We all hate the idea that an unwanted baby would be aborted…but pregnancy as a result of rape, incest, or any other animal like behavior continues to be needed for reasons I think we can all understand. The catholic church needs to be a part of the solution before it can protest the outcome of such behaviors.
Just a thought.
b
Posted by: b | May 13, 2009, 11:55 am 11:55 am
tjp612: Imagine that, a person reaching conclusions based on rational thought and reflection rather than self-interest. Hard to fathom, I’m sure.
Posted by: DKNY | May 13, 2009, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm
Until Catholics solve their 50-year-old aiding and abetting of child-molesting clergy……..including taking responsibility and paying restitution…..Catholic Moral Outrage on any issue is hypocritical. The Catholic Church needs to get its act together before preaching to others.
Dominus vobiscum.
Posted by: Sammy | May 13, 2009, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm
Gibbs: “I think there’s one group organizing a boycott … and, as best I can understand it, there are 23 groups that have formed in support of the president’s invitation.”
Yep, let’s make civil rights a matter of a poll.
Spanish Club: “…recognize the other aspects of President Obama’s work that continues to uphold the principles of justice and solidarity.”
Sure, like his expected taking away conscience rights of medical personnel, his State Department’s pushing abortion as a “reproductive right” though UN agencies, the taking away of DC Charter Schools because they produce better students at lower cost than the teacher union can, … and this is only in the first 100 days. It took 9/11 for Bush to decide he needed to waterboard mass-murders to prevent other mass-murders.
Gibbs: “the majority of Catholics are supportive of the invitation the president accepted.”
Yes, Catholics are creatures of the culture, which is asleep over the civil rights issue of our generation. Even the President is blind to the reality of what he supports, I am sure. Just because the majority of Germans didn’t protest when the Nazis starting mistreating the Jews and the mentally and physically handicapped, didn’t make that mistreatment right, even if was politically correct. Eventually the Holocaust resulted. Well, abortion is already a 50 million human being slaugyter!!! Wake up Notre Dame! Wake up America.
Posted by: Wedge | May 13, 2009, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
tjp612:
Obama’s parents were married when he was born (she didn’t know about his father’s other marriage in Kenya nor could she have predicted how the future with him would have turned out.)
Even if abortion had been legal in 1961, there’s no reason to think his mother would have been tempted to access the procedure.
Even today, with abortion being legal, 62% of pregnancies to unmarried women end in birth. This is up from 34% in 1977. Women are choosing life.
Paul Bradford, Pro-Life Catholics for Choice
Posted by: Paul Bradford | May 13, 2009, 7:40 pm 7:40 pm
When will you stick with criticism about the issues and not the person with whom you differ in opinion? Have you not learned anything from history (Hint: The Dark Ages?) Remember Martin Luther and why he nailed on the door “95 Theses”? I am not Catholic. I am a Protestant-Christian. I am against abortion. I am for choice however. Why? Because God gave man the right to choose. Basic and biblical (look it up!). Is it man that should dictate man’s choices? I thought that’s what liberty of conscience is about! Are you the voice of conscience and reason? I am against homosexual lifestyles. Holy Scripture say that men should not lie with men as with a woman. (See Leviticus 18:22). I respect the right of choice of the lifestyle a person wants to live. I can agree to disagree without succumbing to name-calling and character assassination! I don’t agree on every point with President Obama. Let’ look at teen pregnancy or out-of -wedlock pregnancy glamorized by Hollywood. What are we doing in our community to help stem the tide of out-of-wedlock births and absentee fathers? You cannot legislate choices and morality…biblically speaking when you take away a person’s right to choose, you take away the ability to love freely as I heard a Pastor say. You are passionate and that’s commendable but passion without balance is dangerous, murderous and callous! Read the Bible, Koran, Tanakh, whatever you read and get educated and then help others to make informed choices/decisions. Choice: It’s God given; not man-made or man-ipulated!
Posted by: Bea | May 14, 2009, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Bea, I like where you end up, but all the gibberish about what god gave man and what the scripture says about homosexuality is tough to read. You don’t need that hocus pocus.
Posted by: DKNY | May 14, 2009, 11:25 am 11:25 am
President Obama is open to Pro-Lifers who want to work to reduce abortion. He’s willing to listen to those of us who have ideas for promoting more responsibility for sexual behavior and for reducing the incidence of unintended pregnancy. He’s also shown a willingness to support compassionate ideas for making it easier for mothers to choose life.
We can look for common ground, or we can announce to the leader of the free world, “It’s our way or the highway!” Which strategy is going to save more lives?
Paul Bradford, Pro-Life Catholics for Choice
Oh really is that why he overturned the Mexico City Policy? is for forcing doctors to participate in abortions? Wants American taxpayers to PAY for ALL abortions in the U.S.? Is against Pregnancy Centers that provide alternatives to abortions? Wants to make abortions more of a right no matter the gestational age of preborn baby then Roe Vs Wade did? And hiring radical abortion supporters to office? What common ground are you talking about? Pro-Life Catholics for Choice,what exactly does that mean? What Choice are you talking about?
Posted by: RooForLife | May 14, 2009, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm
I thought that the President of the United States was going as the President of the United States-If there is a problem with Abortion Laws, I am almost sure that they were the result of a Supreme Court Decision that divided the Country so drastically-Why not petition the Court or better yet, begin a Constitutional Amendment that would counter the Court’s ruling and make it a matter of majority rule rather than that of the ACLU and the Supreme Court-This tactic is long overdue on many issues derived from very devisive “Landmark” ruling that I personally do not think that the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the right to do. Basically, I am saying that you are pointing your finger to the wrong target!
Posted by: Dave of Detroit | May 15, 2009, 12:28 am 12:28 am
There is only one reason Notre Dame Univeristy was established. That is to be a Catholic University.
If they are not going to actually act in accordance with their Catholic identity, then simply remove “Cahtolic” from the identifier, as so many other colleges and universities have more honestly done.
Don’t lie about it an try to say (with a straight face) down is up, darkness is light, and the Bishops’ document forbidding Catholic institutions from honoring those who publicly hold views contrary to the faith doesn’t apply to Notre Dame.
Posted by: Bruce roeder | May 15, 2009, 8:22 am 8:22 am
NOTRE DAME UNIVERSITY SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF ITS CATHOLIC IDENTITY.
FATHER JENKINS HAS NOT ONLY BROUGHT SCANDAL UPON NOTRE DAME, BUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AS A WHOLE.
HE SHOULD HAVE CONSULTED WITH HIS LOCAL BISHOP AND DOWN RIGHT SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER THAN TO DIRECTLY CAUSE THIS SCANDAL
Posted by: WILLIAM P MURPHY | May 15, 2009, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm
Why do they keep citing the poll from PEW? If you go to their website they polled 2003 people in the U.S. and 389 are catholic. It just aggravates me that they polled such a small group and act like it represents all Catholics. Nobody asked me. Must have been polled in a Democratic voting district.
Pray for a conversion of our politicians and especially our president. Remember Lincoln was an athiest and he converted.
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