Gates Seeks More Humane “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

The law is the law. Secretary Gates states, “seeing if there’s a more humane way to apply the law until it gets changed.” This law is not humane and was never meant to be. Just do away with the stupidity and create laws that actually protect our soldiers.

I always thought the whole “Don’t ask, Don’t tell” rule was a complete cop=out. I think the public and the military is (for the most part) mature enough to accept open gays and lesbians in the military. The whole rule should be abolished. I think there should be rules of proper conduct for both straight people and homosexuals but I think that to be dismissed simply on the basis of your sexuality and not your conduct is absurd.

“This poor sick Republic is sailing down the sewer at warp speed.”
But at least it doesn’t have a demented skipper at the helm and remember who steered us into the sewer in the first place, you neo-con nit-wit.

What’s wrong with them serving in our military?
If you are brave enough to have to deal with our governments erratic foreign policy then great. Thanks for our service.

The US military needs to grow up like Britian and Austrailia…our closet allies…not to mention the rest of Europe. Are these counties military forces weaker because they opening let gays serve in the military? I heard some Republican on TV make such a statement a while back. I wonder how their armed forces feel hearing something like that? Remember discrimination can be again ANY group. Whites, blacks, asians, jews. No one wants quotas or special rights here; just the right to serve the country as part of the American fabric.

Gays have been in the military since the begining of time. They are already there now, they have been. People are people.

That policy should have been destroyed long ago. How about we allow people to join the military based on their commitment and patriotism, not their sexual orientation. As if a homosexual man or women is less deserving to be in the military.

To quote RL, “the purpose of a military is to kill people and break things”. It’s not a social experiment.
How does adding OPENLY gay people to the mix help the purpose? Fully integrating women caused and continues to cause many problems for commanders, even though many women are stellar performers.
Adding OPENLY gay people will worsen the problems, geometrically. Gay people have always served, and will continue to serve, many heroically. A special burden of their service is silence on their sexuality. Everyone has burdens… some bear them better than others…
Let’s have the best most efficient military service…
Pardon me for speaking truth to political correctness…

how are gay people unstable? What scares me are the openly gay being targeted for violence by their fellow service members. You know those same “great” soldiers who I’m supposed to revere, and respect………are those the same guys who abuse fellow women soldiers (and civilian personnel) working in Iraq?

Obama is for making it illegal if you don’t hire a transgender person because of their orientation. Obama wants to make it illegal for religious organizations too not to hire a transgender person.
Obama is the gift that keeps on giving for trial lawyers.
Will the new policy of gays in the military also apply to transvestites.
Obama wants a workplace discrimination law that will force companies to hire transvestites.
Transvestites make the work place an uncomfortable enviornment with sharing bathroooms with your natural opposite sex.
The american people choose to give the far left unlimited power.
Thanks to Ted Kennedy’s 1965 law which allows for massive legal immigration and open borders this nation is now a permanent one party system.
Half the children under 5 are non white and that will keep growing and growing.
Yet Sotomayor and Obama judges will keep affirmative action forever in colleges and universities even for non citizens.
The politics in this country are like south africa.
When you look at the changing demographics and the polls dems are set to have 65 dem senators after the next election.
How can a republican ever win the white house again with the huge growing hispanic population in the southwest.

Well I guess If they over-turn Don’t ask, Don’t Tell All of the Military Servicemembers better get use to Having A Fashion Show every weekend.

The military can only initiate an investigation if a person actively engages in a homosexual activity (marry someone of the same gender or attempt to copulate with one of the same gender). Just stating that you are gay is not grounds for expultion. It is in place to provide good moral and discipline. Congress instituted the policy, and only Congress truly has the power to repeal it. Blame them if you don’t like the stated policy.

Seth, you seem terribly, sadly, insecure about people who are different than you.
And THIS, after the last eight years, is a real hoot:
“The american people choose to give the far left unlimited power.”

Seth
That is the Republican’s problem, not ours. Everyone gets to vote.

“Personally, I don’t care what kind of lifestyle you live, I just don’t want it pushed in my face!!!”
Greyghost, you’re confusing “shoving in your face” with MERELY EXISTING.
People’s comfort zones are pushed when they KNOW they are around gay people…that’s YOUR issue, not the gay man that happens to be next to you.

I am a retired First Sergeant with 23 years active duty. It will place additional strain on PTSD and overstressed soldiers attempting to prevent or observing soldiers having sex in large hundred man showers and barracks and dormitories with small double end-to-end bunks or even in some cases small single end rooms for NCO squad leaders. These are our young vulnerable soldiers, as older higher ranking soldiers either can afford to move off base or have wives and children and dogs and cats in family housing. I remember one night a large group of us coming back to our quonset hut from the village one night after a night of drinking in South Korea. One of our soldiers was obviously femine/gay however we embraced him and protected him. However, after that night of drinking, a drunken soldier took advantage of him and had sex with him, in front of my young 18 year old eyes. Needless to say, that did nothing for my sense of professionalism, morale and well-being. That was a visual that I will never forget and I’m 65 years now. It gave me PTSD to observe something like that – and in the chain of command, who is in charge of who?