Follow the Stimulus, Part 3
ABC News’ Lisa Chinn, Olivia Hallihan and Jake Tapper report:
Whether by debunking a completely erroneous claim by the White House that the DC housing authority was using $27 million from the stimulus bill to install a 'green' roof, energy-efficient lighting, water conserving toilets, showerheads, and faucets at a DC housing project, or by questioning a somewhat debatable claim about the purchase of stoves in Davenport, Iowa, (they were going to be bought anyway), our team has tried to stay on top of the claims the White House is making about the $787 billion stimulus bill.
And we have found another questionable claim in the White House’s “100 Days, 100 Projects” report.
Stimulus plan No. 7 reads as follows:
“#7: The New York States Veteran’s Home at St. Alban’s in Jamaica, NY is using $109.5 million in Recovery Act spending to install more efficient motors, variable speed drive units, lighting, ballasts, lighting sensors, daylight sensors, and to replace incandescent bulbs with compact fluorescent bulbs. “
$109 million sounded to us like quite a bit of cash for those repairs at one VA, so ABC checked into the validity of the claim.
In actuality, St. Albans is slated to receive $3 million, according to Rep. Gregory Meeks, D-NY, who told ABC News, “That is not accurate. The $109 million dollars mentioned in the White House report was given to the state for all VA facilities.”
Neville Goldson, an administrator at the St. Albans facility, told ABC News that he could not make any statements about receiving stimulus funding and declined to say when the project might begin. The New York Department of Health, which is overseeing the distribution of the funds, also declined to answer our questions.
The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs acknowledged the mistake in the report.
–Lisa Chinn, Olivia Hallihan and Jake Tapper
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I hope they wait for the old lightbulbs to go out before replacing them.
Posted by: ctmom | June 8, 2009, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm
And I thought the current trend was “white” roofs?
Posted by: ctmom | June 8, 2009, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
People do not and will not pay attention to these inaccuracies because they do not want anyone to question Obama. Sometimes it feels like I am stuck in this twilight zone…and then you have Newsweek saying that Obama is above America, above the world, like a god (little g).
Posted by: Jason | June 8, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
Jake the day I see this on the nightly news I will believe you..These little tidbits on websites are for show only..just to say you “covered” it. That why journalism is the 2nd to last respected profession.. Prostitution is last
Posted by: Obamas brown noseing media | June 8, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
ctmom:”I hope they wait for the old lightbulbs to go out before replacing them.”
Incandesent bulbs are not high embodied energy items and they are very high energy consumers, so it actually makes sense to replace them prior to them going out.
Actually, a lot of commercial facilities replace bulbs on a schedule rather than when they go out. It’s far easier to deal with the labor requirements and to maintain a safe facility (if you only have three guys and 500 bulbs go out on the same morning, you could have a problem).
Posted by: jhw539 | June 8, 2009, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm
re: Obamas brown noseing media
Your problem is believing something fed to you from the tube vs. relying on the source. If your source of truth is the tube, I am so sorry for you, this is the place most lies start, grow and are swallowed, without ever investigating the source.
I trust Jake, he has asked questions to both sides and reports the information needed to make a decision. Kind of sounds like you want a media head to make the decision and then spoon feed it to you.
Please go back to your Hot Pockets and MSNBC.
Posted by: fed up | June 8, 2009, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
Jake – For context, are you finding every project that you look into is exaggerated, or are you just reporting on the ones that are? Is 90% of it accurate so far, are is 0% of it accurate so far?
Posted by: jhw539 | June 8, 2009, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm
Keep up the good work, Jake. The truth shall set us free!
Posted by: Rican | June 8, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Thanks for keeping at this, Mr. Tapper, even when your efforts appear to be generally unappreciated. Actually, I am kind of relieved to find out, as with the housing project in DC, that this project is going to cost far less than the stimulus report said. As you note, 109 million to retrofit just one VA hospital sounds like quite a boondoggle. So when we learn that covers all the VA hospitals in the state and that this particular hospital will “only” spend 3 million, I breathe a sigh of relief.
Hope you also uncover some of the waste and corruption undoubtedly to be found in the stimulus spending. And I’d like to see more stories about where some of the money is going beyond road projects and making government buildings “green,” which is mostly what I have been hearing and reading about of late.
I know, for example, that a ton of money is allocated for health care and it was suggested today that many of the jobs President Obama claims he will ‘create or save’ this summer are in that field. So what sort of “health care” spending is the government doing?
Posted by: moderate | June 8, 2009, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm
Silly to assume a stimulus if 800 Billion over 4 years is going to have impact on a 12 trillion dollar economy at all. Bit like a launching an aircraft off an aircraft carrier. Theory is that it slows down the carry, in reality it doesn’t.
We are along for the ride, if it gets better its all because of the stimulus. If it goes south, its Bush’s fault. Not a bad racket.
Posted by: KR | June 8, 2009, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm
Nothing. The stimulous has brought nothing to us. I have taken a HUGE pay cut and my husband has lost his job. All after this stimulous was supposed to fix everything. Not just my husbands work, but many places in our town and the neighboring towns too.
I am having doubts about Obama now. What did he really spend the money on? I probably don’t want to know.
But jobs and keeping jobs was apparently not on the list.
Now there is talk of gas prices rising. Why? For what? Obama is looking to take more money from us now by raising our gas prices.
I’m getting real fed up real fast with him. He doensn’t get as fair as a shake as he should, my temper is short, times are hard. He said he would step up and bring change quickly. Where is it???
Posted by: Heather | June 8, 2009, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm
KR:”Silly to assume a stimulus if 800 Billion over 4 years is going to have impact on a 12 trillion dollar economy at all.”
Do you believe the creation of the internet – a much smaller government ‘pork’ project – impact the economy? Interstate highways? Universal education?
Posted by: jhw539 | June 8, 2009, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
“Do you believe the creation of the internet – a much smaller government ‘pork’ project – impact the economy? Interstate highways? Universal education?”
We are creating something like the internet in the Stimulus? Is that the hope? I thought it was “shovel ready” stuff? Internet took nearly a decade to become the impact that it did, thats not going to help this summer or even next year.
Point being, this was sold as an answer here, an answer now. But it’s on a grand scale of a nudging a cruise liner with a paddle boat. I’m just being a realist here.
Posted by: KR | June 8, 2009, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm
now report how much is correct or turn in your bill o’riley card
Posted by: watching | June 8, 2009, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm
stimulu = government waste and abuse. Did anybody really expect anything else? Whenever the Feds get involved, the result is always the same, an inefficient bureaucratic mess that needs billions of taxpayer money to fund it. Do people realize that Obama is a complete fraud?
Posted by: brian | June 8, 2009, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
We don’t seem to be able to plant any ‘green shoots’ even if we supply the green to do it.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | June 8, 2009, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
JHW539..actually the creation of the internet DID NOT stimulate the economy. What stimulated the economy was the free market growth of hardware, software, lick companies and even ad profits from websites that proliferated once the internet began expanding. Sort of commercial air time and transponder stations that wwas sold and built as the television age blossomed. Infrastructure can stimulate an economy over time, but the problem with that is that long term spending inctreases inflation and does not immediately correct the problem that is causing the average citizen pain. Good example is to compare tax cuts as stimulus with infrastructure spending. In Both 83 and 93 when reagan and Later Bush cut taxes as a method to turn the economy and restore jobs.. the result was rather quick. Regans economy went from 11.5% unemployment to 8% in 9 months and continued down to less than 7% in just over 1 year, Bush went from 7.5% unemployment to 5%in 8 months ( both sets fo figures are from the US Department of the Labor web site). Under Obama’s “infrastructure” spending in the first 5 months, unemployment has wnet from 7% to 9.4% and continues to rise. Most of the stimulus package to date has been spent on increasing welfare and unemployment benefits (about 75 of the total bill) while most of the programs that might actually add jobs over time have not yet been funded iand in some cases won’t be for over two years. What is the point of committing 800 billion to ease the pain of a recession ( that will run its course in about 2 years on its own) if none of the money will be used in time to do any good?
Posted by: arkie vet | June 8, 2009, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
I KNOW THIS GAME!!!!
What shell is the pea under!!
Posted by: American Infidel | June 8, 2009, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
jhw539– by the way, the internet was never a government “pork project” No bill was ever passed that established the development of the internet by the government as a private industry “shovel ready” project. It was a government sponsored undertaking that was found to have far reaching benefits to the private sector.
Posted by: arkie vet | June 8, 2009, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Ask any American Veteran if he gives a crap about paint, lighting ect. to the tune of $110 million. Vets want to see that money go to the TREATMENT of VETERANS!!!
Keep your frickin’ buildings. We are use to the tent treatment centers and it keeps all the overhead out of the way thereby allowing more treatment for the buck!!
Honor Veterans by keeping a promise made to them……HEAL THE WOUND!!
Posted by: American Infidel | June 8, 2009, 5:01 pm 5:01 pm
“…actually the creation of the internet DID NOT stimulate the economy. What stimulated the economy was the free market growth of hardware, software, lick companies and even ad profits from websites that proliferated once the internet began expanding.”
Isn’t this kind of like saying that building a greenhouse doesn’t produce any more flowers, it’s the plants that you put in it that do?
Posted by: Skip | June 8, 2009, 7:19 pm 7:19 pm
My only “hope” is that we all die before this obama B.S. hits the fan. Life will be over as we know it.
Posted by: gman1 | June 9, 2009, 1:51 am 1:51 am
You reporters will never be able to track this stuff down… Joe Biden can’t even do it…
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | June 9, 2009, 8:10 am 8:10 am
They might be able to spur the economy on by buying red carpet to welcome the gitmo detainees to the good ole USA.
They should specify the carpet be made here in the US.
Posted by: david | June 9, 2009, 10:39 am 10:39 am
Somebody doing actual reporting in ObamaLand?
It boggles the mind.
Posted by: democratsarefascists | June 9, 2009, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
Do you believe the creation of the internet – a much smaller government ‘pork’ project – impact the economy?
LOL….jlw… DARPA was hardly a “pork” project.
Posted by: Mike_C | June 9, 2009, 11:01 pm 11:01 pm
Jake – For context, are you finding every project that you look into is exaggerated, or are you just reporting on the ones that are? Is 90% of it accurate so far, are is 0% of it accurate so far?
jlw – WHY should ANYONE have to report on it. Where is all this transparency you claim this administration has accompished?
Obamanomics….hard at work!
Posted by: Mike_C | June 9, 2009, 11:05 pm 11:05 pm
It wold be interesting to know if the lighting ballasts and variable speed drives there were purchased where made by General Electric.
Might explain some of the mystery clouding the spending of our tax money in this case.
Hmm…
Posted by: Joe | June 27, 2009, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm