From the Fact Check Desk: President Obama and Muslims in America

The President may have taken into consideration the number of black Muslims who might not be reflected in the census or Pew figures.

re: “A bizarre and inaccurate meme is circulating among conservatives’….
LOL… only one?
bizarre and inaccurate are the lifeblood of the fringe, you could almost forgive tongue n cheek misquoting for political effect…… but they just lie and make it up… somehow not realizing that just about everything can be verified one way or another……
like the meme that by stating the obvious, to anyone with a brain, Obama is somehow running down America…
It’s good to have an American president who can actually see reality for what it is.

Hmmm…I seem to recall reading something in the New York Times that made a similar leap…which was reported by CBS. Are they now part of the conservative right wing conspiracy too?

hellokitty
nah….. NY Times is a progressive left wing tool of the communists, everyone ‘knows’ that

everything Obama says overseas or anywhere else will be reported one way or another on American news networks…..
and, each network will filter and report it in it’s own way
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That’s not the same thing as saying it directly to an American audience via American news media.

Everything he says is always taken out of content…it seems certain news media pick on his every word.
He gave a great speech and is trying to promote peace for Heaven’s sake.

“The President sees America for what reality is”. I believe this was a misrepresentation of BOTH sides. The President does not see reality…he completely misrepresented numbers of our religious population to manipulate Muslims thinking he can “Carter” his way into appeasement. His policies are contrary to poll numbers – 79% of people are happy with their health care & he wants to change it to sub par socialism which most post industrial countries are now moving away from. 90 % of Americans think Muslims hate us. Only 43 % of Americans are pro-choice yet he funds FOREIGN ABORTIONS imposing our values on OTHER NATIONS. He’s totally in touch with reality *sarcasm*.

abc is becoming fair and balanced as it should be. the media knows it has not been doing its job and has failed to ask tough questions. the same thing happened in the run up to the iraq war.

If the President said on a beautiful morning “it is a beautiful morning” I am certain there would be challenges to his statement. The neo-cons, conservatives and negative thinkers sat at the feet of Karl Rove so long that suckling took on a whole new meaning. I wish such parceling of words had occured in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2003 – but their attempt to rewrite history as honest and virtueous then so we can be honest virtueous now and in the future won’t work. I believe we have a good man in the Oval office trying his best – some Americans have a real hard time accepting that.

Conservatives are at a loss to find things to complain about our new president, so they come up with trivial things, just listen to rightwing radio, they complain that Obama is a Communist, a Socialist, a Capitalist, a celebrity, a fascist, a dictator a hater of Capitalist, a hater of people power (socialist hater). Obama has befuddled them and soon there will be Rightwing mental breakdown institutionalization all over the “Fruited Plains”.
A foolish dog barks at a flying bird.

What? A falsehood is being repeated by republicans? The beginning of spin that many will come to refer to as truth? So what you’re saying is it’s a normal day in republican land?

I think I’m more upset that we aren’t considered a Christian nation. After all, that IS what this country was founded on. And that IS a fact…whether it offends people or not. One nation under God!

Eliza–79% of Americans may be satisfied with the QUALITY of their healthcare… but that’s only 79% of those who HAVE healthcare in this country, which is far from 100%.

by him appologizing to everyone to curry favor when so many us lives were sacrificed on foreign soil to help countries from ww1 forward.countries should be kissing our rings.
Posted by: catman
of course America has done amazing work…
you imply that America is perfect, and has never made a mistake, that because we have helped so many that somehow mitigates bad errors in judgment..
but your post is such a profound misreading of history and what Obama actually says, …
you won’t do it but, check out the last 100 years in South & Central America, as well as the Mid East

i now realize that picture of obama in a turbin was a sign of things to come.too bad people did not do their homework vetting this man.

DUDE.. what is SO WRONG with other religions?? What if I played into your delusions, and agreed that this was a Christian nation? Would that mean we couldn’t have any other religions?? You so-called Christians aren’t very tolerant. So much for love thy neighbor.

i now realize that picture of obama in a turbin was a sign of things to come
Posted by: catman
yeah, like the pix of Bush dancing in Africa wasn’t a sure ‘sign’…… or Bush unable to find a door to leave a room after a press conference in China, a sure ‘sign’ that he was lost

Doug. I don’t recall athiests and darwinists at the Constitutional Convention in 1789. It was freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. Don’t rewrite history to fit your needs, that is where corruption comes in. The Founding Fathers understood that we needed religion to have a MORAL base to establish a nation.

the president is just adding in all the closet muslims like himself

thetruthhurts – I believe in God. Somehow I doubt he cares how we define ourselves after a point. Yes, perhaps the majority religion in the US is indeed “Christian.” My question would be why you guys feel the need to thump your chests over it? Seriously. What do you hope to gain by telling all other religions and those that don’t believe that you rule here? This is like some giant God bragging fest taking place.

dfgh….my point exactly. bush had issues and if the media didnt give him a free pass during the run up to war we might not of gone there. ditto with obama….had the media done their job maybe we wouldnt be wwhere we are today.like with bush…connect the dots.

we need to focus on america instead of trying to solve the worlds problems. when i travel in any foreign country i hold my head high
Posted by: catman
sure we need to focus on America, but to ignore the rest of the world just creates problems, the old cliche still hold true, it’s a small world and it’s getting smaller’…. we all are dependent on each other for better or worse…. ….. nothing wrong with taking pride in America, the US has done so much for so many.

Posted by: 1MANA55 | Jun 4, 2009 2:20:52 PM
Your words are a completly false. Even if you don’t believe in Religion and you don’t have to freedom from religion is freedom of because you have created your own.
You conservatives have been trying to use that on others for far too long and while I do not believe in religion I do believe in GOD. DO you understand that one if not then what I have always said is true about conservatives.
Sorry but if the shoe fits wear it and latly the Republicans have been wearing the shoes that no one else wants.

Posted by: 1MANA55 | Jun 4, 2009 2:20:52 PM
Your words are a completly false. Even if you don’t believe in Religion and you don’t have to freedom from religion is freedom of because you have created your own.
You conservatives have been trying to use that on others for far too long and while I do not believe in religion I do believe in GOD. DO you understand that one if not then what I have always said is true about conservatives.
Sorry but if the shoe fits wear it and latly the Republicans have been wearing the shoes that no one else wants.

ABC has ruined the ability to post on here, and I know I’m having trouble on these types of stories. Their little protection here is just not working right and mine tells me mine is in error and won’t post. The problem is on their end with this.

Yet some “christians” today like to inflate their importance,
Posted by: FatherCommonSense
it’s the blatant mixing of politics and religion, faith seems to take a back seat to the desire to get of political power and force one’s religious views on the rest off the country….

conservatives will throw everything, including the kitchen sink, at the President. They don’t care about the country. They only care that they lost power. They’re just too dumb to understand WHY they lost power. People are tired of their petty politics and stunted view of the world. In 2010 we can finally clean the house for good.

What is funny is how people can say we are any type of religious nation when they preach hate, death, and greed. These people have no compassion for thier fellow man, America has become the country of me me me me me me. Go back to the bible and really read it. Some take words out of contexts to suit thier own needs, purposes and hate, well if it is the truth then why not say all of it and not part of it? Funny how things are picked and chosen as the truth. Every person on the Internet can find the facts for themselves, we do not need hate mongers and scare tactics chiefs telling us what to do or what to think.

The President of the United States, B. Obama, said in the University of Cairo, “It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra.” This is factually wrong. Professional organizations responsible for education MUST clarify this error!
Here are selections from Wikipedia about algebra:
The origins of algebra can be traced to the ancient Babylonians
Babylonian algebra was much more advanced than the Egyptian algebra of the time
The Greeks created a geometric algebra where terms were represented by sides of geometric objects,
Chiu-chang suan-shu or The Nine Chapters on the Mathematical Art, written around 250 BCE, is one of the most influential of all Chinese math books and it is composed of some 246 problems. Chapter eight deals with solving determinate and indeterminate simultaneous linear equations using positive and negative numbers, with one problem dealing with solving four equations in five unknowns
There are three theories about the origins of Arabic Algebra. The first emphasizes Hindu influence, the second emphasizes Mesopotamian or Persian-Syriac influence and the third emphasizes Greek influence. Many scholars believe that it is the result of a combination of all three sources.
Throughout their time in power, before the fall of Islamic civilization, the Arabs used a fully rhetorical algebra, where often even the numbers were spelled out in words. The Arabs would eventually replace spelled out numbers (eg. twenty-two) with Arabic numerals (eg. 22), but the Arabs never adopted or developed a syncopated or symbolic algebra, until the work of Ibn al-Banna in the 13th century and Abu al-Hasan ibn Ali al-Qalasadi in the 15th century.

The CIA and Pew only count 50 States, I’ll bet. Obama will surely count numbers 51-57 too.

US is religion-neutral….Nowhere in the Constitution does it speak about a specific religion and in fact states people are free to practice any religion….Now folks may say that the majority of US citizens are Christian but that has nothing with the government of the US being Christian…The laws of the US are religion-neutral as they should be…

Duane. LOVE IT!

All in all, the American public is the only one who cares about this comment, he should have just said that we are inclusive and welcome millions of muslims to our shores (the old statue of liberty .. line)..
.. the POTUS sometimes has a problem with drama and hyperbole.. but, he did make his point..strongly.. and there are those who jump on every word (supporters and detractors) that comes out of his mouth (and many words come out)…..

“Are we a white nation too, since a majority of Americans are white?”
Majority in America is white, when other nations view the US, they view it as a white nation. Even though it is only a small majority, it is the majority. Doesn’t mean you deny that it is a majority white nation. How hard do you have to try in your own mind to deny facts?
Are we a female nation, since a majority of Americans are female?
Sure, small majority are female, if its true why deny it? Again, why do we have to sweep facts under the rug and deny it when its true?
“Are we a Democrat nation since for now the majority appears to be Democrat?”
Yes of course, Democrats are running the nation. If you don’t call this a government of the democratic party, what would you call it?

PaulUK–President Obama said this: “President Obama said that “if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.” Get it right.

What would have happened if Bush said that “the US was one of the largest Muslims countries in the world”? Obama said it. He is trying so hard to please the Muslims that he says whatever he thinks they want to hear. He did the same thing during the campaign.

While Algebra might be stretching it… the Arabs DID give us our number system. Could you imagine doing long division with Roman numerals?

“So it is crystal clear. The president does not think the U.S. is a muslim nation…”
Now not only is our mainstream media continuing its relentless public relations effort on behalf of the president, but its members can also now read his mind! Wow, aren’t we, as a people, fortunate to have not only an “unbiased” media, but a psychic one too!?
What Obama says in order to garner support from Americans addicted to their own political correctness, and what he thinks, it is “crystal clear” are very often two very different things.

Guesswhaturwrong–3% of 360 million is still a large number.

Does this matter, what if he did say we’re “ONE OF” the largest muslim nations. Here’s a brief history lesson. One of the reasons this country was founded was so that people can practice freely, however we want.
If the numbers at up, and theres a lot of muslims SO WHAT.
To the GOP, we’re not all as religious or care about religion as much as you all claim to. So we dont have to make an issue of it

Doesnt that only work out to like 2,520,000 muslims? Obvioulsy another country has more than 3 million muslims? I think we are like the 34th largest.

Hey so does that mean I can say Obama is ‘one of’ the biggest liar idiot Presidents we ever have? After all its close enough to fact right?

“Republican lie in the name of god, They go to war in the name of god.”
Really? I don’t find I belong fully to either party but I love accusations like this because I would like an example. Got a couple?

Energy Independence now! No more Jerimiah Wright tours and placating the world.

Energy Independence now! No more Jerimiah Wright tours and placating the world.

“A bizarre and inaccurate meme is circulating among conservatives that President Obama referred to the U.S. as a “Muslim nation.”
It’s not even remotely true…”
LOL, this is shocking, SHOCKING I tell you!

Look, I think the president did well in his speech.We can easily judge his speech but why? Who are we, religious or not to judge him. I bet you that if we get all the pastors, religious leaders,republican, democrats, all government and people in the world and gave them stones to throw, them no one would even through it..whats that saying “he who has no sin cast the first stone”. Look we can disagree with somones faith or views but instead of fighting about it, respect, love and have peace with one another faiths and views and just leave it up to God. and trust me I know its tough to do that but give it a chance.I may not agree with some of his views but I respect the president.ohh and with all the top reporters trying to go after him because he is not as entertaning as president Bush remember this, your ego and pride can easily be put in check, but it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong about someone or something and wants to bring peace to the world rather than hate and seperation….what ever faith I say on to all…God bless you and lets all just through pride and ego aside and just work for peace..In my opinion, Its not that hard..But we make hard to do.

By the way werent we supposed to be pulling out of Iraq this month (on orders of their government)? Remember when Obama campaigned and said he would pull our troops out of the war and bring them home in 100 days? What happened to that? Even Nixon ended the war and he was a crook.

A bizarre and inaccurate meme? What is meme?

What ever happened to America being founded on Christen principles? Who does he think he is saying what America is!

His numbers are starting to slip…..watch them slide even faster since unemployment is the highest in 25 years.
Don’t blame Bush, he left six months ago, this clown is leaving us hopeless and taking all of our change.

although as I mentioned, we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation;
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mmm, 76% of the US are Christians.

Look, I think the president did well in his speech.We can easily judge his speech but why? Who are we, religious or not to judge him. I bet you that if we get all the pastors, religious leaders,republican, democrats, all government and people in the world and gave them stones to throw, them no one would even through it..whats that saying “he who has no sin cast the first stone”. Look we can disagree with somones faith or views but instead of fighting about it, respect, love and have peace with one another faiths and views and just leave it up to God. and trust me I know its tough to do that but give it a chance.I may not agree with some of his views but I respect the president.ohh and with all the top reporters trying to go after him because he is not as entertaning as president Bush remember this, your ego and pride can easily be put in check, but it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong about someone or something and wants to bring peace to the world rather than hate and seperation….what ever faith I say on to all…God bless you and lets all just through pride and ego aside and just work for peace..In my opinion, Its not that hard..But we make hard to do.

Look, I think the president did well in his speech.We can easily judge his speech but why? Who are we, religious or not to judge him. I bet you that if we get all the pastors, religious leaders,republican, democrats, all government and people in the world and gave them stones to throw, them no one would even through it..whats that saying “he who has no sin cast the first stone”. Look we can disagree with somones faith or views but instead of fighting about it, respect, love and have peace with one another faiths and views and just leave it up to God. and trust me I know its tough to do that but give it a chance.I may not agree with some of his views but I respect the president.ohh and with all the top reporters trying to go after him because he is not as entertaning as president Bush remember this, your ego and pride can easily be put in check, but it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong about someone or something and wants to bring peace to the world rather than hate and seperation….what ever faith I say on to all…God bless you and lets all just through pride and ego aside and just work for peace..In my opinion, Its not that hard..But we make hard to do.

The ONE isn’t going to let facts get in the way. The POTUS has declared that we are one of the largest Muslim nations therefore we are one of the largest Muslim nations.
When BHO said that America isn’t a Christian nation that we are a nation of ideals and a set of values he was laying the groundwork for his (false) statement that America has a large Muslim population. So by Obama’s reasoning since America is comprised largely of Muslims AND we are a nation of ideals and values THEREFORE America WILL intergrate Muslim values into our laws and daily lives.
Also note that he has been downplaying our Judeo-Christian heritage and the fact that most Americans consider themselves to be Christian.

KR posted :
“Republican lie in the name of god, They go to war in the name of god.”
Really? I don’t find I belong fully to either party but I love accusations like this because I would like an example. Got a couple?
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Here’s one for starters……
“The revelation comes after Mr Bush launched an impassioned attack yesterday in Washington on Islamic militants, likening their ideology to that of Communism, and accusing them of seeking to “enslave whole nations” and set up a radical Islamic empire “that spans from Spain to Indonesia”. In the programme Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs, which starts on Monday, the former Palestinian foreign minister Nabil Shaath says Mr Bush told him and Mahmoud Abbas, former prime minister and now Palestinian President: “I’m driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, ‘George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.’ And I did, and then God would tell me, ‘George go and end the tyranny in Iraq,’ and I did.”
And “now again”, Mr Bush is quoted as telling the two, “I feel God’s words coming to me: ‘Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.’ And by God, I’m gonna do it.” “

For sake of argument — I heard Obama say that there are so many Muslims in America – it could be the largest Muslim Nation in the world. So if you want to be technical about it — yes, he seems to be catering to and planning on making the USA a Muslim nation. Look at his up-bringing.. If you listen to all the video of his speech he certainly does seem to promise the Muslim many “partnerships” with the USA. What does that tell you.
Has Obama ever been clear and to the point – of what he really means to act upon. NO. He does deliver a good speech though. Must hand him that.

Look, I think the president did well in his speech.We can easily judge his speech but why? Who are we, religious or not to judge him. I bet you that if we get all the pastors, religious leaders,republican, democrats, all government and people in the world and gave them stones to throw, them no one would even through it..whats that saying “he who has no sin cast the first stone”. Look we can disagree with somones faith or views but instead of fighting about it, respect, love and have peace with one another faiths and views and just leave it up to God. and trust me I know its tough to do that but give it a chance.I may not agree with some of his views but I respect the president.ohh and with all the top reporters trying to go after him because he is not as entertaning as president Bush remember this, your ego and pride can easily be put in check, but it takes a real man to admit when he is wrong about someone or something and wants to bring peace to the world rather than hate and seperation….what ever faith I say on to all…God bless you and lets all just through pride and ego aside and just work for peace..In my opinion, Its not that hard..But we make hard to do.

It’s obvious to me now, it is high time that we have a muslim on the supreme court.
We know that there aren’t that many muslims in the U.S. because Obama didn’t cater to them during the elections..

One cannot confuse an excellent delivery of a speech – with the contents of a speech and truth of the actions that will result from that speech.
In my view, Obama always sounds good to the audience to whom he directs his words – but he’s too much of an idealist for me to be comfortable with as a President of the USA.
I felt he came across pretty weak regarding nukes. He cannot order other countries that they cannot use the nuke power for weaponry – but he has no problem with any country having nuke energy… that’s a person not in the real world. If you are in front of a pitbull and you tell it that it shouldn’t bite you – and because you want him not to bite you — do you think it cares? It will bite you if it wants…just his nature.

The Christian principles of America, so constantly alleged to by the far right, have led to nothing but bigotry, hate, fear, animosity, war, and intolerance. I prefer to follow the teachings of Christ where there is no room for any of the above. Thank you Obama for making us a country motivated by the teachings of Christ yet pragmatic in our dealings. Nothing is perfect but until we strive for it nothing good will ever be accomplished. I applaud Obama! Finally we have a real president!

The ravers, ranters and “know nothings” of the opposition to Obama never miss a chance to state half-truths or out and out lies. Hatred is self defeating, but they don’t seem to be able to stop. I feel more sorry than angry about their stupid comments.

To all the israel bashers out there rooting for non-existent palestine for let’s play and answer a short palestine quiz.
Get Ready, get set, go:
Name at least one palestinian leader before Arafat.
What was the exchange rate of the palestinian currency against any other world currency on any given day you pick in histor?
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Since there’s no such place as palestine today what caused its demise and when did it occur?
What was the prevalent religion of the ancient country of palestine?.
When was the country of palestine founded and by whom?
What were its borders?
What was the name of its currency?
What were palestines major cities?
When was palestine founded and by whom?
I can go on but let the unabashed israel bashers out there answer just one of the above and later yes we can proceed further

Big deal. Stop splitting hair. A secular nation like the USA is a christian nation, a muslim nation, a hindu nation, a buddist nation and a nation of all religions and any religion can be practiced without discrimination and penalty. The Taliban is charging the christians, sikhs and hindus a tax to practice their religion. America has a bigger population of muslims than even some of the so called muslim nations. So Obama made a poor choice of words but that is not worth making a mountain about. I would like to see peace and harmony around the world especially in the middle east and Obama made a daring beginning towards that goal with his speech and that is the big story Jake. If words can move mountains, the speech today moved the muslims closer to a better understanding of a changed USA.

I don’t like how he uses the Koran all the time and not the Bible.
Does it bother anyone else how well he speaks in a foreign dialect when using the words “Koran, Pakastan, etc.” creeps me out for an American president.

Isn’t it amazing that the ignorant right finds so much fault with decisions arrived at after consultation with people who have spent their lives preparing their minds and knowledge for the situations we find ourselves in. Bush never listened to anyone that did not think like he did. He never reached out to those with more knowledge, nor considered those with opposite views. Bush was the epitome of arrogance and foolishness. Finally we have a president that is not only intelligent and thoughtful, but knows what he does not know. That is the mark of an intelligent man.

IT SEEMS THAT AN ADVISOR TO PRESIDENT OBAMA MADE AN ERROR OR MISTAKE IN THE AMOUNT OF MUSLIMS THAT LIVE IN THE U.S. THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT USUSALLY CONDUCT HIS OWN RESEARCH ON SUCH MINOR MATTERS. BUT THERE ARE MANY 100′S OF THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS LIVING PEACEFULLY IN AMERICA.
THE REPUBLICAN CYNICS AND UNAMERICANS WILL PROBABLY BLAME THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. FOR THIS ERROR.

“It scares the hell out of me that the conservatives are constantly putting out false information to derail this country for self interests.”
Kinda like telling the world Bush went to Iraq for oil? Or saying the government caused 911? Or my personal favorite, air raiding villages and killing women and children?
That street runs both ways. Don’t drive on it without your helmut.

I wonder if the election was held today how
good he would do!!

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During the “Violent Extremeist” section of the speach – Obama made me doubt also his words of “we must never alter or forget our principles” — isn’t that what he’s done since in office — doesn’t he and his Administration violate and ignore our Constitution Principles?
Obama has no right to overthrow a corporation (s) in America – he has no right what hes done with Chrysler/GM -in accordance to the Constitution of the duty of the President.
I just feel that Obama is all words – whatever sounds good…and he does.”
-Vicki
He didn’t overthrow any corporations, so you’re wrong there.
Having said that, what other constitutional freedoms did he violate?

“I wonder if the election was held today how
good he would do!!”
-Jane
He would still kicks everyone’s ass with his >60% approval rating. Sorry to ruin your pseudo-orgasmic moment there.

Obama is recklessly naive to act as if Iran will do anything but what it has been doing.
He sounds like another naive leader: Nevell Chamberlain. Coddling your enemies and alienating your friends does not lead to peace. It leads to war.

This President can’t tell the difference between a million and a trillion dollars. So no big deal on the difference between 2 million or 6, 7, —-10 million Muslims in the USA

Obama – very naive. very dangerous for a president.

Isn’t it great to have someone Intelligent representing the USA. Anyone that thinks Obama is not doing a good job just hasn’t been paying attention.

No – I belive his approval rataing is down a little!!
Thursday, June 04, 2009
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 33% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-one percent (31%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of +2 (see trends). Thirty-seven percent (37%) say the country is heading in the right direction.

But no doubt. He is better than Bush!
Suffer losers.

Never seen so much hate. This President could end hunger, war and poverty and these people would STILL spew their hatred toward him. It’s all too tragically clear.

garcia – Please tell me how is he better than President Bush?

pt…are you a cheerleader for the president because you don’t understand the coplexity of the discussion or because he pays you…which one is it

I find it interesting that BHO tried everything in his power to distance himself from the word muslim (remember you were a racist if you mentioned Hussein)during the campaign, but now will even bow to Saudi kings and portray the USA as muslim. It will be interesting to see what our incompetent little chicago street thug’s teleprompter comes up with when the religion of peace strikes America again.

Foreign countries are voting with their Sovereign Wealth; They are dumping U.S. Dollars and interest rates are rising. Creditor nations are seeking a new reserve currency. Oil is rising and the ban on drilling Bush let expire was reinstated by Obama. Iran is O.K. for nuclear energy, but the U.S. can only have windmills and solar. But, 56 Muslim nations nearly all non-democratic and brutal will like us more.Israel, the size of Rhode Island,attacked the day it was born, gave up Gaza and was rewarded with rockets. Now our, President, discovers his Muslim roots and makes Israel the pariah. Jews who voted for this nightmare continue to be in denial. Time to enjoin the legal challenge of his eligibility is very near.

I think it’s so funny how envious some (not all) of the Repubs are. So far, this batting 1000 and has already surpassed all of Bush’s 8 years in his first 100+ days….and everyone knows it whether they want to acknowledge it or not. SOOOOOOO nice to have the world like us again instead of hating us.

President Obama is WRONG — this country was founded on Christian principles and we ARE are Christian nation. I knew he would do something like this. We should have never elected a man who did not grow up in the United States. Deep in his heart he is a Muslim and we made a huge mistake electing him. He does not represent this nation. period.

Well gosh Jake, thanks for covering for President Obama. Anything else you’d like to do for him?

“I wonder if the election was held today how good he would do!!”
Posted by: Jane | Jun 4, 2009 3:42:59 PM
Well, call me crazy but with an approval rating in the upper %60 range, I’d say he win by bigger margin than he did in November. What the Repub’s don’t understand is that the majority of Americans approve of what he is doing and that explains why the Repub’s ranks keep dwindling.

I see they serve Kool-Aid in Cairo.
Nice of the Muslims to forgive BHO for the way he avoided them in the campaign.

He’s not better than President Bush … I wish we had Bush back! Actually, I just really wish McCain would have won. If you want to get things back in line, vote for Tim Pawlenty in 2012!!!

Why didn’t Obama mention all the Bush policies he chose to continue.
I suspect military tribunals and indefinite detention would not have gone over to well.
BHO is a fraud for those who dare to see.

Obama is right up there with President Jimmy Carter.
On to 2012!!!!!!

When in Cairo (or France).. do as the Muslims do.

Posted by: lalubye01 | Jun 4, 2009 3:53:10 PM
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This country is a melting pot which means, every religion is to be found in America. The reason we are Christian is because that was the prevalen religion being oppressed in Europe. Our Christian ancestor came to the New World and wipe the native. That’s what call Christianity!!! So, according to you other religion got be erradicated because our founding Fathers.

Since over 90% of Americans have eaten at McDonald’s, we should be called a Ronald McDonald Nation. We are a super majority and a force to be reckon with. Roar.

I guess what I find annoying about the POTUS is his constant catering to different groups.. and I know he needs to do this, it’s just a matter of degree.
He knows that we (Americans)are not always very aware or detail oriented and that we are more interested in our personal well-being than current events.
I think that he is more pragmatist than idealist and when I hear his followers glowing over his latest endeavor, I wonder — do you read, see and hear what I do?

Before Barack Obama can negoatiate, he realizes he must become a negotiator in the eyes of all parties involved.

how do you define intelligence–good with a teleprompter?
Posted by: sifto77
not starting a needless war

“Just the facts, meme”

would debate Obama out of the room in 5 minutes.
Posted by: Eric
never about solving the problem, always about ‘winning’….. stir up that koolaid, it’s settled at the bottom of the glass again

how do you define intelligence–good with a teleprompter?
Posted by: sifto77
The ability to actually read a teleprompter is a good start…

catman–right you are–please send this Pres to the mideast permanently–as he seems to love them more than us. Heaven forbid we pat ourselves on the back for the hard work of success………

I’m guessing your talking about the foreign nationals in GITMO. They are not protected by our constitution and thus, cannot do something unconstitutional to them. Ok so lets concentrate on denied a trial, the military tribunal system set up and approved by Congress and the administration was a trial system, it was not a US court trial. I guess you are only slightly correct.
You are asumming that these “foriegn nationals” are POW’s. If that’s the case then then Geneva Convention is aplicable here. Unfortunatly, congress has not declared war on any country since Japan and Germany.

Don’t let facts get in the way of your ideas. Its not good politics and a debate is only about winning if you are a pompus political hack. Thomas Sowell is not a politician so he would bring the ideas that would work. I bet most of you thought the New Deal was a good deal. How pathetic to give into hear say and myths. But its the American way these days I guess.

Pretty selective. How bout unemployment numbers? If dow was the only economic indicator, good on em. It’s a bit like a shiny dime in a goats butt right now though.
You are saying that the jobless rate that is improving as we speak was started by the POTUS? Really. I lost my job 2 days after the election. But I guess that’s the current POTUS that did that to me. Anyone whith any fundamental knowledge of the economy realizes that it takes 6-18 months for policies to have an effect of unemployment rates. The job losses have slowed down. They were speeding up under Bush.

i find it interesting that the u.k. is dumping the liberal party and gordon brown after 2 years. part of the problem cited was the fact that brown is an intelectual, admitted to college when he was 15. after 2 short years he is likely to be out and a CONSERVATIVE landslide is expected.sounds like the obama story. the uk is hiring a pro business person to replace the intellectual ditherier brown.2010 cant come soon enough in the US. i hope the best for obama but congress has to go.
Posted by: catman
Wow…And I thought he was going to be in office until at least 2012 unless impeached or death. Thanks for clearing that one up. The fact that you are proud of your ignorance and uneducated people in general boggles the mind. Thanks for representing your kind.

Wow. This Obama guy really just does not seem to be very proud of USA at all. Look at this baseball blogger for AAA Lehigh Valley IronPigs bashing Obama for being so ashamed of his country all the time. I think the people are getting sick and tired of this Golden Boy’s apology tours.
I voted for Obama and like the guy and all, but it is getting a little ridiculous.

Obama is all talk. (As long as the teleprompter is on)
Obama’s kiss #### tour is an embarrassment.
Posted by: CW
You’re right…it is embarassing having to go around and clean things up that never should have been messed up in the first place.

“You are asumming that these “foriegn nationals” are POW’s. If that’s the case then then Geneva Convention is aplicable here. Unfortunatly, congress has not declared war on any country since Japan and Germany.”
Oh no im not. They are not POW’s. They are unlawful enemy combatants and ARE NOT covered under the Geneva convention or the Law of Armed Conflict. They have a right to a trial as seen fit by the nation with whom they have attacked. To give you some perspective, in WW2 unlawful combatants were captured. They were Germans dressed in US Uniforms, against the conduct of war. They were summarily executed in a makeshift trial on the battlefield.

hey devil mutt….your confusing education with intelligence and they are not the same…..there are many educated people with little or no intelligence and there are intelligent people with minimal education…I’ll take the latter everytime …filling up ones head with knowledge does not make that person intelligent…I’m assuming your educated (by that I mean college) you can study political science…sociology or any other field…you gain knowledge about that field but its the application of that knowledge and the thought process that will determine your success…intelligent people can handle the problem that wasn’t covered in the book …you get it

“‘Sowell primarily writes on economic subjects, generally advocating a free market approach to capitalism. Sowell, a former Marxist, now opposes Marxism’”
He speaks on more than just economics so realize that. I don’t care what your past was when you have seen the light and realized that you were wrong. I like when people put truth above pride and he obviously has done that. You on the other hand see your pride above all else. Just go read his stuff and stop trying to denegrade his ideas, he has way too many to talk about on here. And he is not a party liner which I am all about.
Pride blind the foolish.

The POTUS seems to have some sort of ‘can’t be wrong’ thing going.. all of the time.. a never ceasing bravado, confidence and unquestioning adeherence to his ‘message du jour’…
…Is it real or is it Memorex…
Personally.. I find it unhealthy.. from my purely amateur point of view..of course…..

Mike T.
why don’t we invade N. Korea then?

eric
you like Sowell because he echo’s your views….
plain and simple, I’m sure he’s well respected …….. altho’ Rush likes em’
if you noticed in my post I did say that Sowell
‘also writes on racial topics and is a critic of affirmative action’….. so your implication that I only referred to economics is a lie.

There are 7 million Muslims in the US if you count all 57 states! Obama knows more than you do.

“Sowell, a former Marxist, now opposes Marxism”
Christopher Hitchens was also a Marxist. It appears many intellectual types flirt with the idea of Marxism and then the grow up and see it for what it is.
Some intellectuals do not evolve and mature after becoming infactuated with Marxism. In fact, they usually become college professors and live in the insolated and isolated protectionism of college campuses with new crops of fresh minds delivered to their doorstep every year for their Marxist indoctrination. People like Bill Ayers and his friends and aquaintences come to mind.

Jake, thanks for the fact check. It doesn’t surprise me, unfortunately, that his (wrong) statement was taken and twisted into something he didnt’ say so quickly. Thanks for not only pointing out that development but also that what he DID say was also factually incorrect. The statement by the president sounds not quite kosher when he said it. *G* Your explanation of the facts was excellent; that is what journalists are supposed to do.
Now if you can track down what on earth he meant by his reference to tolerant Muslims in Iberia during the Inquisition, I’d really appreciate it. Those wacky speechwriters– not too many history classes between ‘em, huh?

“And why if we are founded on Christian Principles does the 1st Amendment allows us to ignore 7 of the 10 Commandments?
Also why does much of our economy run on the notion of ignoring the 10th Commandment?”
Not to split hairs here but uh, thats the old testiment. Also, foundation doesn’t translate into literal translation. People love to do that though.
The principles most people talk about is the basic human principles in Christian religion of respecting others, forgiveness, the freedom to choose Christ, etc. The idea that you must choose Christ instead of being one by default was a revolutionary idea at the time. It was a very contriversial form of freedom.
By contrast, with some of the practices of Islam, born muslim, harsh treatment of converted muslim, born Jewish, etc, Christ was a departure in terms of freedom. Ethnicity was not a requirement of Christianity resembling an early form of counter-racism. If you just stick to the teachings of Christ, you’d find that those basic principles of his teachings share a lot in common with life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
But thats just my perspective.

“The principles most people talk about is the basic human principles in Christian religion of respecting others, forgiveness, the freedom to choose Christ, etc.”
We were a country built upon slavery and religious hatred was still quite bitter.
Sorry, the foundations of our country are not Christian in nature.

January 2009 – the time in history when ‘being laughed at’ started to mean ‘being liked’. The Chinese laughed at Tim Geitner. The Middle East is laughing at the immaturity of Obama. Iran is laughing at BO’s caving in about nukes. North Korea is laughing at Barry and Clinton’s ultimatums. The scholars of the world are laughing at Barack’s lack of knowledge of basic history. The leaders of other nations such as France, Germany and Great Britain are laughing at was a doofus Barack Obama turned out to be.
Note to the “I’ll-tell-a-lie-until-it-sticks” liberals = being laughed at and mocked is not good for our country. But, hey, you won, that’s all that counts for you. To hell with the country.

Gallup poll has Obama at 63% approval ending April, 60% today…Gallup had former President Carter at 69% his first official quarter ending in April as well. If Carter was higher than Obama, and we all know what a GREAT JOB CARTER DID,….CAN’T WAIT TO SEE WHAT’S IN STORE FOR THE NEXT QUARTER..

eric- Please post the portion of the speech that Pres. Obama is asking forgiveness! You don’t like the Pres., ok, but why the lies! The Hannity talking points don’t fly! Use your own mind, read the speech and stop being a ditto head!

The president’s error is in attributing “Islam” to the accomplishments of the Arab world of a thousand years ago. The president couldn’t be more wrong.

Ryan C: “RCP’s avg of the latest polls (usually 5 or 6 weekly polls and the two daily trackers from Rasmussen and Gallup) has had him between 60 and 61 for 3 weeks now and that’s where he has spent most of his first few months in office.”
Tell the hundreds of thousands of newly unemployed. That’ll comfort them.

Obama’s facts are wrong again. So was Bushes facts, all wrong and Look where that got us!! And Obama is just starting into his 6th month of 4 years.

President Obama rightly deduces that a country with a Muslim majority is considered a Muslim country. Perhaps he did not mean exactly what he said, but these are his words. If there were a Muslim majority here, the US would be well on its way to membership as number 58 in the Organization or Islamic States.

Are we sure Joe Biden didnt write this speech?

Ooops. Should have read — I’ll try again to get this edit right! Sorry for the multiple postings.
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Jake,
Hmm. “Muslim country” is not equal to “Muslim nation”?
Obama said:
>>… we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”>…that would make the U.S. — under this hypothetical — about the 32nd largest Muslim nation.<<
So when you say "Muslim nation" it doesn't mean the same thing as when Obama says Muslim country.
What's the difference?

He’s a congenital liar.

Ryan C: Check your history.
In 1492, Columbus set sail set sail to find “the New World.” According to his own personal logs, his purpose in seeking undiscovered worlds was to “bring the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the heathens.
In June of 1606, King James I granted a charter to a group of London entrepreneurs, the Virginia Company, to establish a satellite English settlement in the Chesapeake region of North America. King James was the head of the Church of England.
On May 14, 1607, the Virginia Company explorers landed on Jamestown Island, to establish the Virginia English colony on the banks of the James River 60 miles from the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay.
The first representative assembly in the New World convened in the Jamestown church on July 30, 1619.
The General Assembly met in response to orders from the Virginia Company “to establish one equal and uniform government over all Virginia” which would provide “just laws for the happy guiding and governing of the people there inhabiting.” King James I was the ruler over this colony and the head of he Church of England.
In 1620, the pilgrims set sail for “the New World” to escape religious persecution and economic hardship under the Church of England. They came here so that they could worship in the way they chose. So, most certainly this country was founded for religious reasons.
Since the Church of England was then led by King James I who was prone to indulge in the persecution of the “Separatists”. Not belonging to the Church was the same as committing treason.
They decided (for the above reasons) not to go to Jamestown, but instead settled in Cape Cod (now Massachusetts) and, led by William Bradford, signed the Mayflower Compact, which said that they agreed to govern themselves and not take orders from other people.
So, no matter how you look at it, America was founded for religious purposes whether by King James or the Pilgrims. But, still, I offer a history of our Christian nation:
April 10, 1606 – The Charter for the Virginia Colony read in part:
“To the glory of His divine Majesty, in propagating of the Christian religion to such people as yet live in ignorance of the true knowledge and worship of God.”
November 3, 1620 – King James I grants the Charter of the Plymouth council.
“In the hope thereby to advance the enlargement of the Christian religion, to the glory of God Almighty.”
November 11, 1620 – The Pilgrims sign the Mayflower Compact aboard the Mayflower, in Plymouth harbor.
“For the glory of God and advancement of ye Christian faith … doe by these presents solemnly & mutually in ye presence of God and one of another, covenant & combine our selves togeather into a civill body politick.”
March 4, 1629 – The first Charter of Massachusetts read in part:
“For the directing, ruling, and disposeing of all other Matters and Thinges, whereby our said People may be soe religiously, peaceablie, and civilly governed, as their good life and orderlie Conversacon, maie wynn and incite the Natives of the Country to the Knowledg and Obedience of the onlie true God and Savior of Mankinde, and the Christian Fayth, which in our Royall Intencon, and The Adventurers free profession, is the principall Ende of the Plantacion..”
January 14, 1638 – The towns of Hartford, Weathersfield and Windsor adopt the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut.
“To mayntayne and presearve the liberty and purity of the Gospell of our Lord Jesus, which we now professe…”
August 4, 1639 – The governing body of New Hampshire is established.
“Considering with ourselves the holy will of God and our own necessity, that we should not live without wholesome laws and civil government among us, of which we are altogether destitute, do, in the name of Christ and in the sight of God, combine ourselves together to erect and set up among us such government as shall be, to our best discerning, agreeable to the will of God…”
September 26, 1642 – The rules and precepts that were to govern Harvard were set up.
“Let every Student be plainly instructed, and earnestly pressed to consider well, the maine end of his life and studies is, to know God and Jesus Christ which is eternall life, John 17:3 and therefore to lay Christ in the bottome, as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and Learning. And seeing the Lord only giveth wisdome, Let every one seriously set himselfe by prayer in secret to seeke it of him Prov. 2.3.”
Harvard College was founded on Christi Gloriam and later dedicated Christo et Ecclesiae. The founders of Harvard believed that “all knowledge without Christ was vain.”
The charter of Yale University clearly expressed the purpose for which the school was founded: “Whereas several well disposed and Publick spirited Persons of their sincere Regard to & zeal for upholding & propagating of the Christian Protestant Religion … youth may be instructed in the Arts & Sciences who through the blessing of Almighty God may be fitted for Publick employment both in Church & Civil State.”
In addition to Harvard and Yale, 106 out of the first 108 schools in America were founded on the Christian faith.
April 3, 1644 – The New Haven Colony adopts their charter.
“That the judicial laws of God, as they were delivered by Moses … be a rule to all the courts in this jurisdiction …”
1647 – Governor William Bradford publishes Of Plimouth Plantation.
“Lastly, (and which was not least,) a great hope and inward zeall they (the Pilgrims) had of laying some good foundation, or at least to make some way thereunto, for ye propagation and advancing of ye gospell or ye kingdom of Christ in those remote parts of ye world; yea, though they should be but stepping-stones unto others for ye performing of so great a work … their desires were set on ye ways of God, and to employ his ordinances; but they rested on his providence, and know whom they had beleeved.”
April 21, 1649 – The Maryland Toleration Act is passed.
“Be it therefor … enacted … that no person or persons whatsoever within this province … professing to believe in Jesus Christ shall … henceforth be any ways troubled, molested (or disapproved of) … in respect of his or her religion nor in the free exercise thereof …”
April 25, 1689 – The Great Law of Pennsylvania is passed.
“Whereas the glory of Almighty God and the good of mankind is the reason and the end of government … therefore government itself is a venerable ordinance of God …”
May 20, 1775 – North Carolina passes the Mecklenburg County Resolutions.
“We hereby declare ourselves a free and independent people; are, and of a right ought to be, a sovereign and self-governing association, under control of no other power than that of our God and the general government of Congress.”
Summer 12, 1775 – Continental Congress issues a call to all citizens to fast and pray and confess their sin that the Lord might bless the land.
“And it is recommended to Christians of all denominations, to assemble for public worship, and to abstain from servile labor and recreation on said day.”
Summer 2-4, 1776 – Declaration of Independence written and signed.
“We hold these truths … that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights … appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world … And for the support of this Declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence…”
As the Declaration was being signed, Samuel Adams said: “We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven, and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let his kingdom come.”
On the same day, Benjamin Franklin suggested that the national motto be: “Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.”
Historian and philosopher G.K. Chesterton said of the founding of America that it is “the only nation in the world that is founded on a creed. That creed is set forth in dogmatic and even theological lucidity in the Declaration of Independence.”
September 17, 1787 – The Constitution of the United States is finished.
At least 50 out of the 55 men who framed the Constitution of the United States were professing Christians. (M.E. Bradford, A Worthy Company, Plymouth Rock Foundation., 1982).
Eleven of the first 13 States required faith in Jesus Christ and the Bible as qualification for holding public office.
The Constitution of each of the 50 States acknowledges and calls upon the Providence of God for the blessings of freedom.
1787 – James Madison, the “architect” of the federal Constitution and fourth president:
“We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future .. upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to sustain ourselves, according to the Ten Commandments of God.”
April 30, 1789 – Washington gives his First Inaugural Address.
“My fervent supplications to that Almighty Being Who rules over the universe, Who presides in the council of nations, and Whose providential aid can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a government instituted by Himself for these essential purposes.”
March 11, 1792 – President George Washington:
“I am sure that never was a people who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency which so often manifested in the Revolution.”
December 20, 1820 – Daniel Webster, Plymouth Massachusetts:
“Let us not forget the religious character of our origin. Our fathers brought hither their high veneration for the Christian religion. They journeyed by its light, and labored in its hope. They sought to incorporate … and to diffuse its influence through all their institutions, civil, political and literary.”
July 4, 1821 – John Quincy Adams:
“The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. From the day of the Declaration … they (the American people) were bound by the laws of God, which they all, and by the laws of the Gospel, which they nearly all, acknowledged as the rules of their conduct.”
1833 – Noah Webster:
“The religion which has introduced civil liberty, is the religion of Christ and his apostles … This is genuine Christianity, and to this we owe our free constitutions and government … the moral principles and precepts contained in the Scripture ought to form the basis of all our civil constitutions and laws.”
1841 – Alexis de Tocqueville (Democracy in America):
“In the United States of America the sovereign authority is religious … there is no other country in the world in which the Christian religion retains a greater influence over the souls of men than in America.”
Summer 8, 1845 – President Andrew Jackson asserts:
“The Bible is the rock upon which our Republic rests.”
February 11, 1861 – Abraham Lincoln, farewell at Springfield, Illinois:
“Unless the great God who assisted (Washington) shall be with me and aid me, I must fail; but if the same Omniscient Mind and Mighty Arm that directed and protected him shall guide and support me, I shall not fail … Let us all pray that the God of our fathers may not forsake us now.”
Lincoln on the Bible:
“In regard to this Great Book, I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Savior gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it, we would not know right from wrong. All things most desireable for man’s welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it.” (George L. Hunt, Calvinism and the Political Order, Westminster Press, 1965, p.33)
1884 – U.S. Supreme Court reiterates the Declaration’s reference to our rights as being God-given.
These inherent rights have never been more happily expressed than in the Declaration of Independence, “we hold these truths to be self-evident” that is, so plain that their truth is recognized upon their mere statement “that all men are endowed” – not by edicts of emperors, or by decrees of parliament, or acts of Congress, but “by their Creator with certain inalienable rights and that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and to secure these” – not grant them but secure them “governments are instituted among men.”
1891 – The U.S. Supreme Court restates that America is a “Christian Nation.”
“Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian … this is a religious people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation … we find everywhere a clear definition of the same truth … this is a Christian nation.” (Church of the Holy Trinity vs. United States, 143 US 457, 36 L ed 226, Justice Brewer)
1909 – President Theodore Roosevelt:
“After a week on perplexing problems … it does so rest my soul to come into the house of The Lord and to sing and mean it, ‘Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord God Almighty’ … (my) great joy and glory that in occupying an exalted position in the nation, I am enabled, to preach the practical moralities of the Bible to my fellow-countrymen and to hold up Christ as the hope and Savior of the world.” (Ferdinand C. Iglehart, Theodore Roosevelt – The Man As I knew Him, A.L. Burt, 1919)
1913 – President Woodrow Wilson:
“America was born to exemplify the devotion to the elements of righteousness which are derived from the Holy Scriptures.”
1952 – US Supreme Court defines the “Separation of Church and State.”
“We are a religious people and our institutions presuppose a Supreme Being … No Constitutional requirement makes it necessary for government to be hostile to religion and to throw its weight against the efforts to widen the scope of religious influence. The government must remain neutral when it comes to competition between sects … The First Amendment, however, does not say that in every respect there shall be a separation of Church and State.”
January 20, 1977 – President Jimmy Carter:
“Here before me is the Bible used in the inauguration of our first President in 1789, and I have just taken the oath of office on the Bible my mother gave me just a few years ago, opened to the timeless admonition from the ancient prophet Micah: ‘He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God’” (Micah 6:2).
1980 – President Ronald Reagan:
“The time has come to turn to God and reassert our trust in Him for the Healing of America … our country is in need of and ready for a spiritual renewal.”
May 3, 1990 – President George Bush proclaims National Day of Prayer.
“The great faith that led our Nation’s Founding Fathers to pursue this bold experience in self-government has sustained us in uncertain and perilous times; it has given us strength to this very day. Like them, we do very well to recall our ‘firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence,’ to give thanks for the freedom and prosperity this nation enjoys, and to pray for continued help and guidance from our wise and loving Creator.”

You can’t handle the truth
your saying that didn’t happen? Spain & Portugal were kind in their conquest of the new world….
next you’ll tell me that yer boy Rush isn’t now the fattest hypocrite, saying now it doesn’t matter if Sotomayor is a racist, as long as she might be anti-abortion:
“… it’s racism, reverse racism, whatever, but it’s still racism. And she would bring a form of racism, bigotry to the court. But as I said yesterday, folks, I may look past that. I’ve got a whole stack on Sotomayor today.
But Sotomayor, she’s a Catholic, and she doesn’t have a clear record on abortion and I’m, overturning Roe versus Wade, well, that could be huge. I don’t know that it’ll ever happen, but if, you know, the opportunity to get somebody like her — she’s a Catholic, she’s a devout Catholic. She’s a Hispanic Catholic, Puerto Rican, they tend to be devout. She hasn’t got a record on this. Normally liberals do have a record, I mean when they’re pro-choice, man they’re, they, they, they champion it. She hasn’t so I, I can see a possibility of supporting this nomination. If I can be convinced that she does have a sensibility toward life.

prjacqui– Keep up the informative posts!!!

..wait.. I’m reading it now.. it’s right under.. ‘separation of automaker and state’..

And when Oliver Cromwell took over the rule of Great Britain in the early 17th century he and his puritan followers “purified” the Church of England of ritual, organs, hymns (except for those based on the Book of Psalms), etc. One might call that a “fundamentalist take over” that persecuted anyone who did not agree with them.
The Pilgrims ended up in Massachusetts more because they were blown off course in their journey to the new world. They of course came for religious reasons, but it was freedom for them and not anyone who disagreed with them. That’s why Rhode Island colony came into existence. Those who were not welcome in Massachusetts set out on their own.
Maryland was settled by Catholics who were not welcome in England. Pennsylvania by another religious group. Interestingly this was one of two colonies that did maintain some amount of religious freedom to start with.
It was this history of division created by religion that led our founders to incorporate the language of the first amendment concerning the place of religion.
While many did come seeking “religious” freedom, most came for financial reasons.
Columbus was not out to spread Christianity. He was trying to find a shorter route to the wealth of Asia. When he came on land in the “new” world he thought he had reached part of India.
Europeans did not know of the land mass we call North and South America.
Another interesting observation: to the Native Americans, the Iroquois, the Apache, the Cherokee, etc. the colonists were “illegal” immigrants.

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”
George Washington -1796

“under this hypothetical — about the 32nd largest Muslim nation.”
How many muslim majority nations are there? I can only find an estimate that says between 30 and 40.
“It is true that the U.S., even going by the smaller estimate, has a larger Muslim population than some notably Muslim — but small — countries such as Jordan or Kuwait.”
Jordan — Population: 6,198,677 (July 2008 est.)
Kuwait – Population: 2,691,158 (July 2009)
What smaller number are we talking about?

Obama tells whatever group he is speaking what he thinks they want to hear whether it is Muslims, Christians, Jews. After awhile no one will believe a word he says and the rest of the world will just laugh at us(as usual).
I think he is a weak and naive man who
has no inner compass or strong beliefs. Why does he think we will fall for this? I am realizing that everything he told us during the election is a lie.
He makes Bill Clinton look like a saint.

This is real scary, Last year you couldn’t mention Obama with the words,Muslim, Farrahchan,Muslim Garbs, or Hussein in the Media, without getting blasted from the people on Msnbc. It was like you used cuss words and had to have them wash your mouth out
What’s up with that?

Now Ya’ll know that Obama is a Harvard Grad & A Constitutional Professor. Therefore He Is Qualified!

“…one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
You seem to suggest this statement, construed by some that Barack Hussein was suggesting that the USA may be regarded as a “Muslim country,” is a bizarre and inaccurate meme… Interesting choice of words, esp. since the issuance of the meme comes from the lips of the man himself and not from some paranoid conservatives in this country… The paranoia is yours.

Our President needs to make sure that whoever is giving him his “facts” is not skewing the numbers to tickle the ears of those who are listening to him. How do you come up with seven million when none of the sources come close to that number?