Gitmo Detainee Brought to NYC for Trial
EmailEarly this morning a plane landed in New York containing US Marshals and Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, a Tanzanian national held at Guantanamo Bay since September 2006.
Ghailani, currently being held at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, faces 286 separate criminal charges stemming from his alleged role in the Aug. 7, 1998 bombing of the U.S. Embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, including conspiring with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda to kill Americans, and a separate charges of murder for each of the 224 people killed embassy bombings.
He is the first Guantanamo detainee transferred to the US to stand trial in federal court and will appear in a federal court in Manhattan later today.
“With his appearance in federal court today, Ahmed Ghailani is being held accountable for his alleged role in the bombing of U.S. Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya and the murder of 224 people,” Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement. “The Justice Department has a long history of securely detaining and successfully prosecuting terror suspects through the criminal justice system, and we will bring that experience to bear in seeking justice in this case.”
Ghailani is an expert document forger and travel facilitator, the US government says. Known within al Qaeda circles as "Haytham al-Kini," Ghailani worked for al Qaeda's former chief of external operations, Hamza Rabi'a — forging passports for al Qaeda members. Press accounts say he is also referred to as "Foopie" and "Ahmed the Tanzanian."
Placed on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list in 2001, Ghailani was identified by then-Attorney General John Ashcroft in May 2004 as one of seven terrorists planning an attack on the US, based on "credible intelligence from multiple sources." Ashcroft said Ghailani had "the wherewithal, the skill, the ability, to undertake attacks both against American interests overseas as well as in the United States….Each of these seven individuals is known to have a desire and the ability to undertake planning, facilitation and attack against the United States whether it be within the United States itself or overseas."
Two months later, in July 2004, Ghailani and more than a dozen others were arrested by Pakistani police after an eight-hour battle in the town of Gujrat in central Pakistan. He was taken to Gitmo.
The decision to bring Ghailani to the US, however, is meeting with criticism from Republicans and others.
"This is the first step in the Democrats’ plan to import terrorists into America," said House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio. "Without a plan to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, the Administration has made the decision to begin transferring these terrorists into the United States, in spite of the overwhelming opposition of the American people and serious questions from Members of Congress of both parties. There are more than 200 of the world’s most dangerous men held at the Guantanamo Bay prison. Does the Administration plan to transfer all of them into our nation in this way? Do they plan to give them the same legal rights as the American people? Just what is the Administration’s plan for closing this prison?"
“Our priority must be to keep America safe, and it defies logic to put the rights of some of the most dangerous terrorists in the world before the safety of Americans by bringing them onto American soil," said House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., in a statement. "Terrorists spend years trying to sneak inside our borders, and bringing them here ourselves is utterly counter intuitive.”
The government says that there are 216 inmates in Bureau of Prisons custody with connections to international terrorism — 67 of whom were extradited to the US for prosecution. The 216 include Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Ramzi Yousef, convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Ahmed Ressam, the Millennium Bomber; and shoe bomber Richard Reid. There are 139 individuals in BOP custody connected to domestic terrorism, the government says, including Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski and Oklahoma City bombing accomplice Terry Nichols.
The former commander of the USS Cole, Kirk S. Lippold, of Military Families United, "by bringing Ghailani’s case into the federal court system without a policy or plan on how to deal with the larger GITMO issue, the Obama Administration is again taking a piecemeal approach to a major national security issue."
The Obama administration argues that the Southern District of New York has a long record of successfully prosecuting terror cases, including Abdel-Rahman, Yousef, and Wadih el-Hage who was convicted in the 1998 embassy bombings.
"In order to close the Guantanamo Bay facility and to strengthen our security, we must break the logjam that has kept the detainees in legal limbo since its construction," says an Obama administration official. "For over seven years, we have detained hundreds of people at Guantanamo. During that time, the ad hoc legal system established by the previous administration succeeded in convicting only three people. Instead of bringing terrorists to justice, efforts at prosecution met setbacks, cases lingered on, and in 2006 the Supreme Court invalidated the entire system."
- jpt
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Does the GOP have so little faith in our military and police that they beleive it’s a given that these “terrorists” will escape and wreak havoc on their beloved heartland? Not very patriotic…
Posted by: matt | June 9, 2009, 11:29 am 11:29 am
I just hope they’ve thought through what they’ll do if he’s found innocent or given a short sentence.
Posted by: MayBee | June 9, 2009, 11:34 am 11:34 am
In the course of a single disastrous stint in power, Republicans have gone from looking strong on defense to looking like clueless cowards. There’s a prison about 15 miles from my house, near the nuclear plant, feel free to put the Guantanamo inmates there. And if the courts find them innocent – as surely at least a few of them are – I have no problem with them being let free in my neighborhood. Although I’m not happy that due to Bush’s utter incompetence this has drug out 7 years now – was his “plan” to just procrastinate until the next guy had to clean up his personal imperial dungeon?
It’s pretty sad what the constant use of fear as a means of winning elections has done to Republicans.
Posted by: jhw539 | June 9, 2009, 11:42 am 11:42 am
For those that don’t remember the trial of the “blind sheikh”, indicted for the first twin towers bombing coincided with another tragedy.
Remember the plane that blew up and suddenly the FBI and the CIA, for the first time investigated the crash. Every other air disaster is investigated by the NTSB.
This is the one where hundreds of witnesses claimed they saw a missile like object rise up towards and strike at about the time the plane exploded.
Oddly enough, and not too publicized by the Clinton administration, there were threats of just such an incident if the Sheikh was brought to trial.
So we can look forward to more of this?
Why do you think the FBI and CIA suddenly and without precedent before or since took over this investigation?
I wonder if these are some of the documents democrat Secretary of State, Sandy Berger stole from the national archives??
Anyhow, aside from the obvious problems of bringing terrorists to the mainland there is the likelihood of retribution, such as the downing of that flight TWA 800 off the new york coast.
Funny how Obama had to sneak this guy in instead of being open about it. He must know that the majority of the public now favor keeping gitmo open, but Obama’s radical base still wants it closed.
What is a corrupt self serving president Obama to do?
Posted by: MNM | June 9, 2009, 11:49 am 11:49 am
as surely at least a few of them are – I have no problem with them being let free in my neighborhood.
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Why would we not deport them?
We didn’t let POWs “free” in our neighborhoods. These people aren’t citizens of the US, and they have home countries.
Posted by: MayBee | June 9, 2009, 11:53 am 11:53 am
In the course of a single disastrous stint in power, Republicans have gone from looking strong on defense to looking like clueless cowards. There’s a prison about 15 miles from my house, near the nuclear plant, feel free to put the Guantanamo inmates there. And if the courts find them innocent – as surely at least a few of them are – I have no problem with them being let free in my neighborhood. Although I’m not happy that due to Bush’s utter incompetence this has drug out 7 years now – was his “plan” to just procrastinate until the next guy had to clean up his personal imperial dungeon?
It’s pretty sad what the constant use of fear as a means of winning elections has done to Republicans.
Posted by: jhw539 | Jun 9, 2009 11:42:18 AM
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Hey well in a few short months the dems have reversed their polling advantage on:
economy by 6 pts (39 dems 45 repubs)
Natl Security 36% dems to 51% preferring repubs
Ethics 29% dems to 35% republicans
and so on.
ON six separate issues the public now feels the republicans are more trustworthy or tied such as on immigration which is a tie.
So in this instance Obama did move like lightening to change that situation.
Here are the rasmussen results. Dems are listed as the first number and republicans the second. I have included all the numbers to avoid the inevitable complaint of bias.
Even if you want to claim a margin of error the republicans have made great gains on these issues and the dems, thanks to Obama and Pelosi have deteriorated markedly in the exact same Rasmussen poll.
Surveys of 1,000 Likely Voters
June 3-6, 2009
Issue
Democrats
Republicans
Health Care
47%
37%
Education
44%
37%
Social Security
43%
37%
Abortion
41%
41%
Economy
39%
45%
Taxes
39%
44%
Iraq
37%
45%
Nat’l Security
36%
51%
Gov’t Ethics
29%
35%
Immigration
29%
43%
TOP STORIES
Posted by: MNM | June 9, 2009, 11:58 am 11:58 am
OOPs, I was wrong, dems and republicans are not tied on immigration, repbulican positions are preferred and well ahead of dems in the poll I just posted!
If you are having trouble deciphering the numbers just go the rasmussen dot com web site and a link to the numbers can be found on the home page.
Posted by: MNM | June 9, 2009, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm
MayBee:”Why would we not deport them?
We didn’t let POWs “free” in our neighborhoods. These people aren’t citizens of the US, and they have home countries.”
Read up on the Uyghurs, who have been cleared for release by everyone from an Administrative Review Board to the Pentagon years ago. The Bush Administration officially filed to remove their enemy combatant classification. If returned to China, they would be prosecuted as political prisoners. Are we part of the Chinese secret police now?
The Uyghurs who have been determined multiple times to be harmless (this is not all of them in custody BTW) should be released in the US, where the immigrant Uyghur community has offered to help them settle down.
If we are too cowardly to accept even these handful of inappropriately held people (according to the Pentagon, Administrative Review Board, and President Bush’s Attorney Generals Office filed to be no longer classified as enemy combatants, then how can we ask any other country to do so?
Posted by: jhw539 | June 9, 2009, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
MNM:”Oddly enough, and not too publicized by the Clinton administration, there were threats of just such an incident if the Sheikh was brought to trial.
So we can look forward to more of this?”
Wild conspiracy theories with no basis in actual fact? Sadly we probably can look forward to more of this.
Posted by: jhw539 | June 9, 2009, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
MNM: Huh, yet Obama’s approval rating is up to 58% today in even Rasssmussen’s dubious “voters” weighted polls.
And the inevitable complaint of bias comes into how Rassumussen takes their raw results and then weights them to equal a “voter.” Under 25? Well, your answers may be thrown out. Democrat? Well, you’re 25% less likely to vote, lets discount your answer a bit. Republican? What an upstanding citizen, lets count your answer twice!…
Well, that’s not their exact algorithm, but no one knows what their exact algorithm is. All we know is they aren’t reporting their raw un”corrected” data (as some pollsters do), and the election in 2010 is the next poll that actually matters.
Posted by: jhw539 | June 9, 2009, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm
The Uyghurs who have been determined multiple times to be harmless (this is not all of them in custody BTW) should be released in the US, where the immigrant Uyghur community has offered to help them settle down.
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They are not “harmless”. They are not deemed to be trained to act as terrorists against the *US*. They are trained to act against China, which is a big reason we can’t send them there. It’s also a reason nobody else is willing to take them, not even our partners in these wars.
Does that mean we should give them immigration status into the US? That’s more complicated than simply declaring it “cowardly” to not do so.
Posted by: MayBee | June 9, 2009, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm
MayBee:” They are trained to act against China, which is a big reason we can’t send them there. It’s also a reason nobody else is willing to take them, not even our partners in these wars.”
That is not the case. China does not want them (or rather, wants them shot or in a prison camp) for the same reason they want proud Tibetans shot or in a prison camp. It is not because they have military training (like millions of people in China).
“Does that mean we should give them immigration status into the US? That’s more complicated than simply declaring it “cowardly” to not do so.”
We have held them captive for years and due to our actions they now have nowhere to go. Five years ago, they could have settled elsewhere but not now with the big Guantanamo brand on their heads.
It is more complicated and it should be decided by a proper trial (well, again I guess seeing as how the courts have already ruled in their case). But I do believe this kneejerk “Don’t let any of dem turrists set foot in America!!” nonsense is flat out cowardice.
Posted by: jhw539 | June 9, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
JHW:
Are you on the administration payroll? I have yet to see you post one thing that does not enthusiastically endorse each and every Obama policy — even if/as they zig and zag. The sheer amount of time you spend here cheerleading for Obama (not to mention the polls and figures you always have at the ready) sure make it look like SOMEBODY’s paying you. You say you’re an engineer, yet these posts flow uninterrupted throughout the day.
I certainly hope I (as a taxpayer) am not subsidizing these rah-rah posts. As has been pointed out by others, you also seem to be coordinating with Ryan C, who even as I type is probably ROFLHAO.
It’s a shame when these message boards are manipulated by professional posters.
Posted by: Tonto | June 9, 2009, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
And if the courts find them innocent – as surely at least a few of them are – I have no problem with them being let free in my neighborhood.
Posted by: jhw539 |
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Well, it’s illegal for persons with known ties to terrorism to immigrate to the US but then rule of law is not your strong suit.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | June 9, 2009, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
That is not the case. China does not want them (or rather, wants them shot or in a prison camp) for the same reason they want proud Tibetans shot or in a prison camp. It is not because they have military training (like millions of people in China).
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Are you comparing Chinese military training with military training for use against the Chinese government?
Other countries don’t want them NOT because they have a “Gitmo brand”. They didn’t want them years ago. They don’t want them because they have attended anti-Chinese military training. Whatever country brings them in will displease China.
Yes, the Uighers are in a difficult situation, but they are themselves quite difficult.
Posted by: MayBee | June 9, 2009, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Anyway, the Uighers aren’t the only people left at Gitmo, and the man being tried is completely unrelated to them. As will be most that head to trial in the US. I’m not willing to say the US should take in anyone found innocent. There is no reason we should, in fact that isn’t what we do in most criminal cases.
Posted by: MayBee | June 9, 2009, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm
If a terrorist attacks you, Obama’s approval rating will keep you safe.
Posted by: Jim Treacher | June 9, 2009, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Tonto:” You say you’re an engineer, yet these posts flow uninterrupted throughout the day.”
Sigh, I wish. I am obviously an Obama supporter (and a Bush Sr fan if you have followed my posts for a while), but I am not paid by any means (actually, I paid his campaign last cycle not the other way around). I have been critical of Obama, but not often – he’s doing about what I expected based on his campaign on and what I voted for him to do. He has weak spots, such as his continuing the abuse of the State Secrets judicial strategy (and I have donated to the ACLU to continue their effective approach on that front), but overall yeah, I’m happy his performance so far.
Posted by: jhw539 | June 9, 2009, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm
If a terrorist attacks you, Obama’s approval rating will keep you safe.
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Jim Treacher- if terrorists attack us, it will be out of fear of Obama’s awesome outreach.
Posted by: MayBee | June 9, 2009, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
“Hey well in a few short months the dems have reversed their polling advantage on:”
Rasmussen…who even CONSERVATIVES know has questionable results.
Hot air’s intro to this
“Yes, yes, the usual caveats about Rasmussen polls apply,”
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
“Posted by: Tonto | Jun 9, 2009 12:47:34 PM”
Awww the right wing cowards are upset they can’t push their message so they project and accuse others of astroturf.
But since you brought up astrourf.
Remember the old GOP Team Leader website which handed out prizes for blog comments….or perhaps something more recent.
“You can be whoever you want to be,” says an inviting Phil Tuchman. “You can be a beggar or a millionaire. A mom or a husband. Whatever. You decide!”
After a series of outings for Obama and a first mission as a phone banker for John McCain, I returned to McCain’s headquarters in Arlington, Va. The offer was too alluring to delay — they wanted to put me into action as a ghostwriter. Next to commercials and phone banking, writing letters to the editor is the most important method of the McCain campaign to attract voters. At least that is what’s written in the guidelines that McCain campaign worker Phil Tuchman presents to me.
“The assignment is simple: We are going to write letters to the editor and we are allowed to make up whatever we want — as long as it adds to the campaign. After today we are supposed to use our free moments at home to create a flow of fictional fan mail for McCain. “Your letters,” says Phil Tuchman, “will be sent to our campaign offices in battle states. Ohio. Pennsylvania. Virginia. New Hampshire. There we’ll place them in local newspapers.”
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm
Such a CROCK! The BUSHIES – without thinking it through at all – imported nearly 1000 Muslims into the Western hemispere, i.e. Gitmo. About 750 of them – all now VERY angry at America – have had to be REALEASED because the Bushies were too embarrassed to admit that they didn’t have a shred of reliable evidence on them. Of course, Republicans apparently believe that it’s quite OK to arrest and lock people up indefinitely without evidence or trial. GOOD THING they’re down to 21% of the electorate or else our freedoms would be in DANGER from THEM!
Posted by: AlChemist | June 9, 2009, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
This guys jury should be the relatives of those people that were jumping out of the World Trade Center after 2 jet airplanes were flown into them like missiles.
Posted by: jury duty | June 9, 2009, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
Such a CROCK! The BUSHIES – without thinking it through at all – imported nearly 1000 Muslims into the Western hemispere, i.e. Gitmo. About 750 of them – all now VERY angry at America – have had to be REALEASED because the Bushies were too embarrassed to admit that they didn’t have a shred of reliable evidence on them. Of course, Republicans apparently believe that it’s quite OK to arrest and lock people up indefinitely without evidence or trial. GOOD THING they’re down to 21% of the electorate or else our freedoms would be in DANGER from THEM!
Posted by: AlChemist | June 9, 2009, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Finally the prisoners held in Gitmo can face the justice that just like any human being they deserve. Bringing them to America to stand trial is not only their right but the beginning of the end of this terrible mess. If they are found guilty they should receive the maximum punishment. If they are not guilty they can be repatriated. We will again be able to regain our standing in the world as a moral nation. Why not bring them to America. We have good prisons. they will be safely held in their prisons here nothing to fear in that.
Posted by: JMikey54 | June 9, 2009, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm
“Republicans apparently believe that it’s quite OK to arrest and lock people up indefinitely without evidence or trial. GOOD THING they’re down to 21% of the electorate or else our freedoms would be in DANGER from THEM!”
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So AlChemist ,
I guess you have the EXACT same opinion of FDR!
Posted by: Mike_C | June 9, 2009, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
“We have good prisons. they will be safely held in their prisons here nothing to fear in that.”
We have a few terrorists already at our Supermax prison.
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
“I guess you have the EXACT same opinion of FDR!”
FDR was incredibly wrong on internment.
The only one 60 years later who praises him for that is right wing lunatic Michelle Malkin.
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm
Like any American, this bothers me. A natural feeling of self protection and having terrorists or those with ties to terrorism here.
I don’t have to worry much though, for my personal safety. We ranch in the country. Wide open spaces. My husband has made sure I am very proficient with firearms, for self defense and the protection of our animals. I suppose some of the city slickers would call me another carribou barbie. Hey, if it makes you feel like a man, so be it.
I know these terrorists won’t be in my parts of the country, they have no business out here. If they do, they will be watched. There is nothing wrong with racial profiling. There are no middle eastern types out here and there are really no need for them. If they are here, it is probably to cause trouble and we won’t tollerate trouble. Even the local police won’t tollerate drifters and would be trouble makers.
We’ll take care of our own and if something happens within this great country and your new friends are behind it, we’ll just have to say we told you so. It probably won’t do much good, you folks are sure hellbent on blaming Bush and the opposing political party for everything.
Posted by: Horserider 4 | June 9, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Like any American, this bothers me. A natural feeling of self protection and having terrorists or those with ties to terrorism here.
I don’t have to worry much though, for my personal safety. We ranch in the country. Wide open spaces. My husband has made sure I am very proficient with firearms, for self defense and the protection of our animals. I suppose some of the city slickers would call me another carribou barbie. Hey, if it makes you feel like a man, so be it.
I know these terrorists won’t be in my parts of the country, they have no business out here. If they do, they will be watched. There is nothing wrong with racial profiling. There are no middle eastern types out here and there are really no need for them. If they are here, it is probably to cause trouble and we won’t tollerate trouble. Even the local police won’t tollerate drifters and would be trouble makers.
We’ll take care of our own and if something happens within this great country and your new friends are behind it, we’ll just have to say we told you so. It probably won’t do much good, you folks are sure hellbent on blaming Bush and the opposing political party for everything.
Posted by: Horserider 4 | June 9, 2009, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
“Our priority must be to keep America safe, and it defies logic to put the rights of some of the most dangerous terrorists in the world before the safety of Americans by bringing them onto American soil,” said House Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., in a statement. “Terrorists spend years trying to sneak inside our borders, and bringing them here ourselves is utterly counter intuitive.”
Jake I like how deflated Cnator by posting this afterwards
The government says that there are 216 inmates in Bureau of Prisons custody with connections to international terrorism — 67 of whom were extradited to the US for prosecution. The 216 include Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Ramzi Yousef, convicted of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Ahmed Ressam, the Millennium Bomber; and shoe bomber Richard Reid. There are 139 individuals in BOP custody connected to domestic terrorism, the government says, including Unabomber Theodore Kaczynski and Oklahoma City bombing accomplice Terry Nichols.
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm
Even the local police won’t tollerate drifters and would be trouble makers.
Horserider 4
just remember what happened in Rambo #1 honey..
Posted by: Vigilante | June 9, 2009, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm
‘There are no middle eastern types out here and there are really no need for them.’
Posted by: Horserider 4
curious as to just who qualifies under your ‘middle eastern types’ comments and how you know whose who in your ‘pristine’ open spaces.
how will you identify the Tim McVeigh types?.. or don’t those terrorists count because they’re white?
Posted by: Oh Yeah | June 9, 2009, 3:01 pm 3:01 pm
I should have guessed that people have a problem with others posting opinions. Right Ryan C?
Vigilante, since you drew First Blood, I’ll respond. My husband served 16 years as one of the best special forces in this country. His missions are beyond classified, even to me, even now that he is retired. He has been given a certain set of skills that only a small handful have and is very useful in using them. When helecopters land at our ranch, begging him to come back to service, he was important and very good at what he does. He can take care of “Rambo”. Give him all that equipment he has in his vault and he could probably take care of 100 Rambos, even more. I am not worried in the slightest, Rambo was only a green beret.
Posted by: Horserider 4 | June 9, 2009, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm
“I should have guessed that people have a problem with others posting opinions. Right Ryan C?”
Sorry if you expected your racism to get a free pass.
Right wingers are kind of stupid in that regard.
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
. When helecopters land at our ranch, begging him to come back to service
Posted by: Horserider 4
sorry my mistake, it wasn’t Rambo #1 …
it was the movie Commando.. that’s the one with helicopters going to the remote ex special forces ranch begging ‘Arnold’ to come back to work..even had a ‘secret’ room for is special guns..
yeah… lol
Posted by: Vigilante | June 9, 2009, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm
“sorry my mistake, it wasn’t Rambo #1 …
it was the movie Commando.. that’s the one with helicopters going to the remote ex special forces ranch begging ‘Arnold’ to come back to work..even had a ‘secret’ room for is special guns..”
Then their father demanded that they avenge his death at the hands of the Russian firing squad while bravely singing America the Beautiful…oh wait that’s Red Dawn
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
oh wait that’s Red Dawn
Posted by: Ryan C
Ryan, I’m sure you are aware that Red Dawn is the most revered movie in the right wing arsenal and will always be #1 even next to the upcoming documentary about Obama’s birth certiicate.
Posted by: Vigilante | June 9, 2009, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
Wait a minute.. with my new world view.. why NYC.. we are all denizens of one green, holistic, unified world after all.. we could have the trial in Paris or even… Cairo..
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | June 9, 2009, 4:05 pm 4:05 pm
Republican lawmakers are leaving puddles on the floor because they’re quivering at the ruthless brutality of… a forger? If he was forging documents for murderers, that makes him a murderer, without question, and he should be prosecuted as such… but dangerous? What’s he going to do, forge his own release papers?
Posted by: Yukon Sam | June 9, 2009, 4:29 pm 4:29 pm
If released, he may be eligible for a job at the U.S. Mint’s printing and proof plate department..
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | June 9, 2009, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm
I am sure the rabid dems will call this conspiracy theory but hundreds of witnesses saw the same thing.
The FBI confiscated and refused to return witness video. And in an unprecedented move, before or since, the FBI and CIA took command of an air disaster.
For those that don’t remember the trial of the “blind sheikh”, indicted for the first twin towers bombing coincided with another tragedy.
Remember the plane that blew up and suddenly the FBI and the CIA, for the first time investigated the crash. Every other air disaster is investigated by the NTSB.
This is the one where hundreds of witnesses claimed they saw a missile like object rise up towards and strike at about the time the plane exploded.
Oddly enough, and not too publicized by the Clinton administration, there were threats of just such an incident if the Sheikh was brought to trial.
So we can look forward to more of this?
Why do you think the FBI and CIA suddenly and without precedent before or since took over this investigation?
I wonder if these are some of the documents democrat Secretary of State, Sandy Berger stole from the national archives??
Anyhow, aside from the obvious problems of bringing terrorists to the mainland there is the likelihood of retribution, such as the downing of that flight TWA 800 off the new york coast.
Funny how Obama had to sneak this guy in instead of being open about it. He must know that the majority of the public now favor keeping gitmo open, but Obama’s radical base still wants it closed.
What is a corrupt self serving president Obama to do?
Posted by: MNM | June 9, 2009, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Let me also add that the TWA 800 incident and the trial of the Blind Sheikh took place just before the 1996 pres election where Bill Clinton was struggling and could not afford to look like he allowed a terrorist attack in US airspace.
Posted by: MNM | June 9, 2009, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
My gut insticts tell me this a huge
MISTAKE. It would not surprise me if
some liberal activist judge decide
to release them based on their time
interred at Guantanamo.
Posted by: karl anglin | June 9, 2009, 5:52 pm 5:52 pm
- there is the likelihood of retribution, such as the downing of that flight TWA 800 off the new york coast. Posted by: MNM
yes, the terrorists have been waiting for this very moment, a change in residence from Gitmo to the U.S. for trial… to attack America, forget Iraq, Afghanistan, North Pakistan, torture,….
remember,…. that not only will the terrorists be set free, to buy homes and get welfare in America, but they will be given your address so they can come get your guns before you are taken to the FEMA re-education camps
Posted by: Oh Yeah | June 9, 2009, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm
So we can look forward to more of this?Posted by: MNM
sounds like you want that to happen, so you can say I told you so……pretty sick
Posted by: No Mas | June 9, 2009, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
Ahmed Ressam, the Millennium Bomber, who plotted to bomb Los Angeles International Airport on New Year’s Eve, 1999, is one of the 216 international terrorists in the Bureau of Prisons system. While most of these prisoners will never see the light of day, Ressam was given a relatively light sentence. By cooperating with authorities by giving them information about terror camps in Afghanistan, Ressam was sentenced in 2005 to 22 years. The judge in the case, U.S. District Judge John C. Coughenour, said he hoped to send a message that the U.S. court system works in terrorism cases. “We did not need to use a secret military tribunal, detain the defendant indefinitely or deny the defendant the right to counsel,” he said. “Our courts have not abandoned the commitment to the the ideals that set this nation apart.” With credit for time served and reductions for good behavior, Ressam could be out of jail by 2016. He most likely will be deported, his attorney said at the time, but he didn’t exactly specify where. This is the type of case that is problematic for the Obama Administration. Some of the prisoners will be getting out. Then what?
Posted by: Paul Solomon | June 9, 2009, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm
“Anyhow, aside from the obvious problems of bringing terrorists to the mainland there is the likelihood of retribution, such as the downing of that flight TWA 800 off the new york coast.”
Paranoia runs deep….
Posted by: Ryan C | June 9, 2009, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
Maybe they dropped this guy out of air force two during a low level fly over.
Posted by: DontGet818OnMeNow | June 9, 2009, 7:47 pm 7:47 pm
Looks like you folks at ABC NEWS only allow people to speak their minds as long as it goes along with your politically correct and corporate media attention.
Posted by: Luis Rodriguez | June 9, 2009, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm
How much money do you think it cost the taxpayers (that’s you and me)…to bring this enemy combatant here…pay for all the marshalls protecting (him?)…his attorneys’ fees…etc., etc.? Oh wait…it doesn’t matter, does it — Obama spends our tax dollars like the money grows on trees. Not to mention this is like a slap in the face to US citizens since the majority do not want the Gitmo detainees in the U.S. — but Obama does; and what Obama wants, Obama gets.
Posted by: GinaR | June 9, 2009, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
How much money do you think it cost the taxpayers (that’s you and me)…to bring this enemy combatant here
Posted by: GinaR
I don’t know…… do you?
I guess they stay for free at Gitmo… right?
Posted by: No Mas | June 10, 2009, 12:19 am 12:19 am