House Dems Unveil Health Care Plan

The whole problem with the health care INDUSTRY is insurance companies. We don’t need more types of insurance, we need plain and simple health care. We shouldn’t have insurance companies deciding on our health care. They are in it for a profit ! They are not in it to provide health care, but to deny health care and make money !

Well, if a “bipartisan” bill meant they couldn’t do what they said they were going to do, why should they listen? I doubt the Democrats were materially consulted on matters such as the invasion of Iraq etc.
That said, it’s just good manners to hear the other guys’ ideas, but most of these guys have been saying the same thing for months.

I don’t know who’s to blame, the medical community or the insurance community but, I recently had a major operation, 1 day in intensive care and 4 days in hospital, the bill was over $274,000. Now, let’s repeat that a few tens of thousands of times per year and you know what, it gets to be REAL money for someone.

“They also voted to go to Iraq. Check out the vote. The left side of the isle just wants people to forget about that.”
And the right side want you to forget that they lied to get that approval.

I’d like the members of congress opposed to this bill to give up their “poorly run” government provided health care and sign up for a private, profit based policy that the rest of americans are stuck with. Profiting off sick people such as accepting credit cards at the hospital is a tell of health care’s primary focus: corporate profits.

“I doubt the Democrats were materially consulted on matters such as the invasion of Iraq etc. ‘
Well, they VOTED for it — so I guess that means they were “materially consulted”. You libs all seem to conveniently forget that vote back in Oct. 2002.

I read this article a few days ago…..”WASHINGTON (AP) — The wife of a senator playing a lead role on a national health care overhaul sits on the boards of four health care companies, one of several examples of lawmakers with ties to the medical industry. Jackie Clegg Dodd, wife of Sen. Chris Dodd, serves on the boards of Javelin Pharmaceuticals Inc., Cardiome Pharma Corp., Brookdale Senior Living, and Pear Tree Pharmaceuticals, a financial disclosure report the senator released Friday shows.”

force the drug companies to charge us no more than they charge Canadians.
Give us equal health benefits that congress has. Lets see our congress say we are not equal to them.

“25 cents of every dollar spent on healthcare goes to process the billing to settle claims between hospitals and insurance companies. A true single payer plan would reduce costs 25% by ending this practice. – ITWARZ”
LOL….ONLY IN A WORLD WHERE THAT SINGLE PAYER DECIDES WHAT THE COST STRUCTURES & COVERAGES WILL BE. You actually think there will be complete agreement and acceptance of a govt mandated cost & coverage plan?
Our govt, who cant write a bill and then explain how the language of it changed and how everone vote don it but didnt catch it!
Our govt, whose Treasury dept cant even READ the LAW where it pertains to the IG in charge of TARP oversight!
Our govt …that cant control the fraud in Medicare, Medicaid, & SS.
Our govt, who get blasted left & right for mistakes and holes in the medical coverages we give our Vets!
Take a REAL look at the actual implemeantations in the systems already in use in the world. NOT the fantasy stories, but the real workings. The real costs. Many here have touted the Swiss system.
Funny thing though, they never mention the Swiss system has pre-existing condition clauses. The govt only pays 25% of the costs and therefore for a family of four, the cost per month for reasonable coverage is still over a $1000 US dollars! AND they only have a population of about 7.5 Million people, a far cry from our estimated 340-350 million!

The USA is not 1st in anything-health care-education-business-etc-get over it-43 million people without health care-who do you think picks up the tab for this?
Health care costs will go up 9% this yerar-did you get a 9% raise?

we see chris dodd at the senate hearing pushing health reform.dodd got a sweetheart deal on two mortgages,slipped the aig bonuses into the stimulus bill, that no one in congress read.first he denied it,then he admitted doing it.now we find he falsified documents on his irish cottage,saying it was worth less than it actually was. congress and the president must condone this behavior,because dodd is still there.does anyone out there actually believe a word this man says??? and the fact that he is presenting this so called reform, should be a BIG red flag. do we need to get hit in the head with a brick, DUH!!!!!!!!

Insurance isn’t the problem with healthcare. Insurance keeps the costs down. Malpractice, nurse shortage, high wages (ultra-sound tech $57 hr.),labor shortages. Where has the US education system been negligent in not training for healthcare? Why is it so hard for someone to get into nursing school? Whywere they bringing in nurses from Philloppines rather than training our own. Not to mention the cost of providing care for 30 million illegal aliens that ALL of us subsidize in high medical costs.

The CBO estimates the Democrats plan will add up to $1.6 trillion or more to the deficit over the next 10 years and only cover 13 to 14 million of the 50 million without insurance. The plan would subsidize these people to the tune of $6000 per person by 2019. Where is this money going to come from? Answer, You and me with the Democrats openly proposing big cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, higher taxes and sky rocketing deficits that will lead to inflation that will hurt people the elderly on fixed incomes the most. The U.S. debt currently with Medicaid and Medicare is $57 trillion, $11 trillion in Social Security, $11+ trillion in the current budget. That is about $80 trillion in the hole and growing by the day. Moreover, state like Ca and NY are going bankrupt due to the enormous costs associated with Medicaid, which sounds a lot like the “public option” the Democrats are proposing.
A government takeover of the health care will inevitably lead to higher (costs deficits and taxes) and lower quality of care. Than to solve the “problem” (that government created in the first place), politicians will impose even higher taxes and rationing of health care. The goal of the Democrats health care take over is to suck as much money out of our pockets as possible so the government has control of our money and how it is spent. The ugly truth is that the poor and elderly on Medicaid and Medicare will be forced to bear the brunt of this with our Medicare premiums going up and services being cut in order to help pay for the health care costs of the uninsured. Think about it. The money has to come from somewhere.
Given the government’s mismanagement of Social Security and Medicare (that are going bankrupt) how is it that anyone can trust the government not to make an even bigger mess of health care is beyond me. I guess if you like sky rocketing deficits, higher taxes, run away inflation and some bureaucrat making life and death decisions on who gets what health care if any, a government take over of health care as proposed by the Democrats is for you.
A better way to bring down the costs of health care and cover more people is to get government out of the way of the free market. Give the health insurance industry the option of providing a wide range of insurance coverage based on people’s needs and ability to pay. Another way to lower costs is to reign in the ambulance chasers with tort reform laws that will lower the cost of malpractice insurance. Medicaid and Medicare are going bankrupt and instead of cutting their costs by reducing the amount of reimbursement the government pays for services just get rid of them and replace them with tax credits and some form of government subsidies for people with low incomes to help them pay for their choice of insurance. That alone would save trillions of dollars

Just curious as to why ‘everyone’ is totally ignoring the money that would be saved by taxpayers and hopsitals if we simply deported all the illegal ailens that are receiving billions of dollars in healt care, paid for by US taxpayers? Only in America. Yes, deportation would be costly, but far less costly than what we pay for hospitalization and incarceration. All this while hospital bill are causing many Americans to go bankrupt. Something is wrong with this picture.